Speaker 1: From how Stuff works dot com. This is the stuff
Speaker 1: of life. Welcome to the Stuff of Life. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Julie Douglas. The Earth is wrapped in an atmosphere that
Speaker 1: weighs five point five quadrillion tons, and inside this atmosphere
Speaker 1: the weather creates a crazy quilt of conditions. Consider that
Speaker 1: in December a weather system over Texas delivered tornadoes and
Speaker 1: floods to one part of the state, while the other
Speaker 1: part of the state experienced record snowfall. To say that
Speaker 1: the weather is unpredictable is to sum up our entire
Speaker 1: existence and to personify weather in this way, well, that
Speaker 1: is deeply entrenched in us. This is a mode of
Speaker 1: thinking with a very strong ancient pedigree. I mean, we
Speaker 1: have an extremely dominant predisposition to believe that weather events
Speaker 1: are aimed at us, and often in reaction to our behavior.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the people throughout history who
Speaker 1: have thought that weather events are punishments for for sin.
Speaker 1: If you did something wrong, the gods are going to
Speaker 1: send a storm at you, Which is why we find
Speaker 1: solace in charting the chaos that is the weather. I
Speaker 1: was shipping forecast issued by the mess Office on behalf
Speaker 1: of the Maritime and Coast Guard Agency at w O
Speaker 1: one five on Wednesday September. They are wanting for gales
Speaker 1: in Dover, White Portland, Plymouth. John P. Swaddle, a professor
Speaker 1: of biology we talked to in an upcoming episode, fondly
Speaker 1: remembers these BBC shipping forecasts. I can't do it now,
Speaker 1: but when I was a kid, I could recite most
Speaker 1: of the shipping forecast areas in order because they go
Speaker 1: through them and almost a sort of sing song type
Speaker 1: of way, and they're all called things like the forties
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And um, they go round the
Speaker 1: coast basically clockwise, I think, um, And they'd say each
Speaker 1: one of the shipping zones and then what the weather
Speaker 1: would be like, and I just sort of rattled off.
Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, I listened on the
Speaker 1: radio because he used to come on basically after the
Speaker 1: news at nine or ten o'clock in the evening, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. These forecasts have been a tradition since the
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, when citizens of storm lashed coastal cities in
Speaker 1: the UK settled in for the evening. The theme music
Speaker 1: of the broadcast sailing by a serene backdrop for their
Speaker 1: thoughts as they sussed out what the following day might
Speaker 1: look like. This kind of weather prognosticating is one of
Speaker 1: the oldest human activities and persists as a topic for discussion, dissection,
Speaker 1: and even obsession. Good morning, It's March twelve, two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, and it's a Thursday here in l a
Speaker 1: Mostly blue skies, some white clouds floating by muted golden sunshine,
Speaker 1: very still, fifty two degrees fahrenheit eleven celsius. For a while,
Speaker 1: film director day with Lynch gave weather reports for the
Speaker 1: greater Los Angeles area. His Midwestern accent and the relatively
Speaker 1: stable conditions of the southern California climate give a sense
Speaker 1: of continuity that life might always be drenched in muted
Speaker 1: golden sunlight. While his forecasts aren't exactly an American counterpart
Speaker 1: to the UK shipping news, they do offer a sense
Speaker 1: of order in the face of roiling chaos and confusion
Speaker 1: that bubbles under the surface of the American experience. Whether
Speaker 1: then becomes the metaphor for our existence, awe inspiring, unpredictable, mysterious,
Speaker 1: something we consciously and unconsciously organize our lives around, even
Speaker 1: coloring our emotions something author Lauren Redness Explorers and the
Speaker 1: weather phenomenon the Doldrums. That word just struck me because
Speaker 1: it's the doldrum seems to indicate a psychological phenomena as
Speaker 1: much as the meteorological phenomena. The first let's take a
Speaker 1: detour into the ways in which weather makes a dent
Speaker 1: into our psyches. I'm Joe McCormick. I'm a writer and
Speaker 1: host at How Stuff Works, and you can find me
Speaker 1: on my other podcasts, Stuff to Blow your Mind and
Speaker 1: Forward Thinking. I'm Holly for I am an editor and
Speaker 1: I co host Stuff You Missed in History Class. I'm
Speaker 1: Dylan Fagan and I'm the photo researcher here at How
Speaker 1: Stuff Works. Um, and I have my hands and many
Speaker 1: different pots around the office. Why there is so much
Speaker 1: a part of the story of our existence that when
Speaker 1: we step into an unfamiliar situation or maybe even a
Speaker 1: slightly awkward one, like say an elevator, it is our
Speaker 1: go to topic for discussion. I think it's the most
Speaker 1: surface level conversation that you can start with with a stranger. UM,
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in a negative way. I
Speaker 1: mean it and that it's a threat that ties us
Speaker 1: all together, we all go outside, we all see what's
Speaker 1: going on. You know, we I'll have that common experience um.
Speaker 1: And it is cliche um, but it also could be
Speaker 1: a door opener and icebreaker, um to get to know
Speaker 1: someone a little better. You know. It could just be
Speaker 1: for the elevator, or it could be jeeves hot day
Speaker 1: out there, sure is, so what's your name? You know,
Speaker 1: it's a jumping off point if you look at it optimistically,
Speaker 1: It's how you start to get into somebody's head to
Speaker 1: do the long con what's your name? And social Security number?
Speaker 1: The weather ain't what it used to be when it
Speaker 1: comes to safe topics, global warming, climate change. Weather is
Speaker 1: clearly having a moment. Were close here tonight with more
Speaker 1: unusual weather is in the grip of another descemb But
Speaker 1: hate life is part of the wild weather and recent
Speaker 1: wait forecast. There's a warning of more chaos a space.
Speaker 1: Storms and floods continue to battle the southern United States.
Speaker 1: Nobody that is living has ever seen anything like What
Speaker 1: do you guys think about the names we have for
Speaker 1: all these storms and weather events? Now? Is that? I mean? So,
Speaker 1: we we've been naming hurricanes for a long time, but
Speaker 1: now we've had these winter weather events that get names
Speaker 1: in the media like Snowmageddon and snow apocalypse and the
Speaker 1: polar vortex, which I guess is a different thing because
Speaker 1: that's a real scientific term. But but you see these
Speaker 1: come up in the media a lot. Is that is
Speaker 1: that new or have we always been doing that? Well,
Speaker 1: we haven't always been doing it because we didn't even
Speaker 1: always have like a weather service that you know, worked
Speaker 1: on these predictions. But I certainly think the I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't remember storms when I was a kid in
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties having these cockamami like full on
Speaker 1: drama with a musical stinger under them names right like mom,
Speaker 1: this is the one, you guys, I don't know it's
Speaker 1: the one. What this leads Holly two News on a
Speaker 1: unified theory of weather sensationalism. I mean, I have this
Speaker 1: whole thing completely separate from weather, where I feel like
Speaker 1: there's this perpetual competition in that our news cycle and
Speaker 1: the social media angle, where there's this perpetual competition to
Speaker 1: be the cleverest and so people all want to come
Speaker 1: up with the kicky name for everything that happens. And
Speaker 1: that's where Snowmageddon comes from once in a generation storm,
Speaker 1: a historic and deadly winter storm shuts down the southern
Speaker 1: US that was so very scared outside. If I don't
Speaker 1: get home to life hands, I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: freak out. State troopers sent in to rescue small children.
Speaker 1: And it's like they can't just say we're having this
Speaker 1: weather event. They're serious snow. There is a bad traffic
Speaker 1: situation because everyone released every school at the same time,
Speaker 1: and all offices shut down, and so all of these
Speaker 1: people got trapped on the interstate. They can't say that
Speaker 1: they have to go. And Hey, if we're going to
Speaker 1: the trouble of giving weather systems dramatic names, we might
Speaker 1: as well go one step further and saddle these systems
Speaker 1: with the responsibility of our personal suffering. I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: sometimes weather is like a scapegoat for your problems. I mean,
Speaker 1: in my in my opinion. You know, when it's seventy
Speaker 1: at Christmas and you you think like, well, that's that anno,
Speaker 1: or that's climate change, or it's so cold, that's the
Speaker 1: polar vortex. You know, whatever kind of weather phenomenon that
Speaker 1: you're hearing about on the news. It gives you something
Speaker 1: to blame for why things are abnormal. I should mention
Speaker 1: that we all live in Atlanta, Georgia, also known as
Speaker 1: Hot Atlanta. I want to pick up on something you said.
Speaker 1: They're about it being seventy on Christmas, because I always
Speaker 1: have this feeling that. I mean, I like nice warm weather.
Speaker 1: I like nice sunny days when it's warm out, and
Speaker 1: especially when it's nice in the winter when it's otherwise
Speaker 1: been cold. But I hate it when it's hot on Christmas.
Speaker 1: And it's frequently hot on Christmas around here, and it's
Speaker 1: just awful. It just feels like it ruins the holiday,
Speaker 1: ruins the spirit of it. It's not really Christmas because
Speaker 1: you're sweating. It's just gross and you hate it. And
Speaker 1: I think it's weird that we give that kind of uh,
Speaker 1: we give that kind of emotional power and association between
Speaker 1: certain feelings or events and how it's supposed to be outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if it's hot during December, I refused to
Speaker 1: wear shorts because they're Christmas lights. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: it just ruins the holiday feeling. When it's seventy outside
Speaker 1: and you see a dude and flip flops, You're like, no, No,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not what I'm used to. That doesn't
Speaker 1: fit this ideal in my head that I have from
Speaker 1: you know, television and movies and when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and I remember it's knowing I have to confess that
Speaker 1: hot Christmas isn't my thing either. I tend to think
Speaker 1: of winters is time to symbolically fold into yourself. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it just it's getting darker out earlier, and
Speaker 1: it's sort of this time to just mentally hibernate or
Speaker 1: you know that feels safest to me in the winter, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: this is okay. I'm going to be depressed, probably because
Speaker 1: I always am over Christmas. And I also get angry
Speaker 1: when it's seventy degrees on Christmas because that just feels
Speaker 1: like it's underscoring all the weirdness that is an attention
Speaker 1: and stress that is Christmas. See now I feel guilty
Speaker 1: because when it's seventy on Christmas, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a gift to me and everyone else is apparently miserable.
Speaker 1: You've done the human sacrifice that made that happen, and
Speaker 1: now Julie and I are just having to stew and
Speaker 1: feel betrayed. I didn't think about that. I think you
Speaker 1: caught something interesting there. Um, Like when it's seventy on Christmas,
Speaker 1: it just adds the unpredictability and the tension and the
Speaker 1: weirdness that is getting together like that. It adds a
Speaker 1: certain weird level of anxiety here. Whether is disrupting the
Speaker 1: narrative that our Western culture has told us about how
Speaker 1: Christmas should be, but it goes deeper than that, Whether
Speaker 1: it can actually shape our moods. I think it's interesting that, um,
Speaker 1: looking at like a five or seven day forecast on
Speaker 1: your phone for me personally, can determine what my mood
Speaker 1: is going to be, Like I can already predetermine how
Speaker 1: I'm going to feel that day, like, oh gosh, just
Speaker 1: gonna be cold and rainy on Sunday. That's going to
Speaker 1: be awful, you know, or it's gonna be it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really nice on Monday. I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 1: That's gonna make Monday better. Like it can. It can
Speaker 1: drag you down or it can pull you up. I hate, hate, hate, hate,
Speaker 1: hate being cold so much. I have winter rage disorder,
Speaker 1: not a real disorder when I made up, but people
Speaker 1: often think I'm like citing a doctor. When I say no,
Speaker 1: I went to rage disorder. Bring it on. I'll wear
Speaker 1: red and green shorts in the winter. I don't care
Speaker 1: if I need my holiday fix. I would rather be
Speaker 1: on fire than be cold. I live in the South
Speaker 1: for a reason. Bring on seventy degree Christmas. All of
Speaker 1: us have, at one time or another, take him weather
Speaker 1: personally and shaking our fist to the sky. Some even
Speaker 1: feel like they could control the weather. We did an
Speaker 1: episode once on Crown Prince Sotto of Korea who was
Speaker 1: suffering with some very real mental illness, and he thought
Speaker 1: his clothing choices would affect the weather. Uh, which kind
Speaker 1: of He was already dealing with a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: and he was prone to fits of violence. But he
Speaker 1: really felt the burden of that that, you know, if
Speaker 1: he wore color X or robe at Y on a
Speaker 1: certain day, it could potentially impact the entire world. And
Speaker 1: that's a lot to carry on your shoulders. So in
Speaker 1: a in a lighter way, thinking that the weather is
Speaker 1: mirroring us, does that happen to you or you like
Speaker 1: I made it rain with my sadness. There wasn't there
Speaker 1: a Georgia governor who there was a drought in the
Speaker 1: nineties and he put He's like said, Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to pray for rain. Ask and you shall receive. Just
Speaker 1: one day after, Georgia Governor sunny Ford let a prayer
Speaker 1: service for rain on the steps of the state capital.
Speaker 1: The rain fell. It sounded and felt pretty good last night. Here,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, we do believe in miracles.
Speaker 1: We do believe that you are the miracle Creator, the
Speaker 1: creator that established the water and the land and the
Speaker 1: air and even us. God, we need you, we need rain.
Speaker 1: So it's I mean, it's still in some form continues today. Um,
Speaker 1: this feeling that you can influence the weather based on
Speaker 1: an action or clothing or mindset. This influence is an
Speaker 1: ancient idea that we just can't seem to quit. Weather
Speaker 1: patterns that change over the seasons are definitely a cycle,
Speaker 1: and you can see it happen in real time, and
Speaker 1: that that is certainly reflected in ancient beliefs too, because
Speaker 1: lots of ancient gods are seasonal gods. You know that
Speaker 1: their mythologies are derived from the seasonal changes. So you
Speaker 1: have gods that are killed and then reborn in the
Speaker 1: same way that your harvest. You know all the plants
Speaker 1: are killed by the winter and then reborn in spring,
Speaker 1: But whether the elements are the realms of gods or mortals,
Speaker 1: it all comes back to the sense that it's just
Speaker 1: deeply personal. My great grandmother was still in her seventies
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, and she would be the
Speaker 1: one to pick me up from school in the afternoons,
Speaker 1: and uh usually on sunny days, I would go outside
Speaker 1: once I got home and play basketball for hours until
Speaker 1: my parents could pick me up. But on rainy days.
Speaker 1: My grandmother was a great cook, and she would always
Speaker 1: have either leftovers or something she'd just made. And because
Speaker 1: she came from a time where food was scarce and
Speaker 1: their way of showing love was cooking, um, she always
Speaker 1: wanted me to eat when I got home. She didn't
Speaker 1: have cable. She had this little black and white TV
Speaker 1: and it got PBS, and I remember at three o'clock
Speaker 1: it was Mr. Rogers, but at three thirty it was
Speaker 1: The Joy Painting with Bob Ross. And I would sit
Speaker 1: there and she would have made macaroni and cheese and
Speaker 1: green beans and turkey, and I'd sit there and I
Speaker 1: would watch Bob Ross as the rain fell, and in
Speaker 1: my mind. That is just like a blanket wrapped around me.
Speaker 1: It's the warmest memory I can think of from my childhood.
Speaker 1: Rain is the most emotionally evocative weather event that there
Speaker 1: is in movies. It's a handy signifier for a heightened
Speaker 1: emotional state, whether it's a melancholy character staring out of
Speaker 1: a rain splattered window or a couple kissing under a deluge,
Speaker 1: you know, just completely oblivious to everyone else and bursting
Speaker 1: under their desire for each other. That is how effective
Speaker 1: of a metaphor. Rain is. So much so it's rainbow
Speaker 1: producing abilities. That moment when we get to briefly see
Speaker 1: white light split part into its brilliant component colors. That
Speaker 1: moment of a rainbow could even inspire a book. I
Speaker 1: had finished my previous book, Radioactive, and m I was
Speaker 1: chatting with a friend and we were actually taking a
Speaker 1: walk one day one of those days where the weather
Speaker 1: changed really rapidly where it rained and then I think
Speaker 1: it even hailed and the sun came out and there
Speaker 1: was a terrific rainbow, and you know, kind of as
Speaker 1: a joke, I said, um, you know, I'm really burnt
Speaker 1: out the book I just finished, which for which I
Speaker 1: had to learn a lot of physics, and I'm not
Speaker 1: a physitist by any stretch, and so I just thought
Speaker 1: my next book could be out clouds and Rainbows. As
Speaker 1: I heard myself say this, I realized that I wasn't kidding.
Speaker 1: And this spectacular panorama of this guy that you take
Speaker 1: for grant duties give me such an interesting ech other
Speaker 1: because it's hidden in plain sight. Lauren Redness is the
Speaker 1: author of three books. She's been a Guggenheim Fellow and
Speaker 1: Artist in Residence of the American Museum of Natural History,
Speaker 1: and a finalist for the National Book Award. She teaches
Speaker 1: at Parsons the New School for Design. Her newest book,
Speaker 1: Thunder and Lightning, Weather Past, Present, and Future, is an
Speaker 1: exploration of and meditation on the ways that humans cower, celebrate,
Speaker 1: profit from, and even try to control the weather. Her
Speaker 1: accompanying illustrations stir the senses that we associate with those
Speaker 1: elements of weather. The opening chapter, titled Chaos, spells out
Speaker 1: the ground rules for the book with a story about
Speaker 1: a cemetery. So my mother in law told me this story.
Speaker 1: She was a minister in New Hampshire and she heard
Speaker 1: about a town not too far away from her where
Speaker 1: a friend of hersage of pasture and the floodwaters from
Speaker 1: Hurricane Irene had unearthed the grades from the cemetery. And
Speaker 1: I was so struck by that that idea that you know,
Speaker 1: this very most basic premise, you know, you die, you
Speaker 1: are buried, even whether can even up end that basic
Speaker 1: assumption about life. So I wanted to start with that
Speaker 1: kind of unrattling and then through the book try to
Speaker 1: put the pieces back together. That weather disabuses us of
Speaker 1: the sense of continuity. Instability makes it that much more
Speaker 1: important for us to track and predict. And to that end,
Speaker 1: The Old Farmer's Almanac has been predicting the weather since
Speaker 1: sevent founder and editor Robert B. Thomas came up with
Speaker 1: a secret forecasting formula. So the Old Farm of Dominac is,
Speaker 1: you know this publication that's been around since before George
Speaker 1: Washington was president. It's predates electric light. It's one of
Speaker 1: the very first books that a colonial American fami might
Speaker 1: have had in their home. The way that they predict
Speaker 1: weather is using a sacred formula that child in a
Speaker 1: black box, which they have at their headquarters in New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: This mysterious black tin box is the stuff of weather legend.
Speaker 1: It's been passed down from editor to editor, and it
Speaker 1: was thought that that person, and that person alone would
Speaker 1: set eyes on it. I was talking to m. Judge
Speaker 1: and Hale, who was editor of the Almanac for many,
Speaker 1: many years, and I asked him, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: have have you ever seen this black box? And he
Speaker 1: said casualist could be Oh, yeah, here it is. You
Speaker 1: can look at it. And he picked it up off
Speaker 1: the phone and handed it to me, and I was
Speaker 1: just stunned. In thunder and lightning. Lauren documents this moment
Speaker 1: describing the black box is quote dusty. It was black
Speaker 1: with gold trim, about the size of a tackle box
Speaker 1: or a makeshift coffer that might use for cash at
Speaker 1: a big sale. The lock was open. Inside were a
Speaker 1: few leathery spiral notebooks, two keys with clover shaped heads
Speaker 1: held together on a jumbo paper clip. There were a
Speaker 1: number of loose documents, some type, some handwritten, and one envelope.
Speaker 1: This one envelope that was stamped confidential confidential. So I
Speaker 1: opened it up and they began to fade through this
Speaker 1: system for predicting weather, and it read like a riddle.
Speaker 1: Laura was given permission to copy the formula and share
Speaker 1: it with Greg Carbon, a meteorologist from the National Oceanic
Speaker 1: and Atmospheric Administration. He said to me, the meteorologist, well,
Speaker 1: it's rather hard to follow, and it's a beautiful and document.
Speaker 1: It's you know, all about the moon cycles in the atmosphere,
Speaker 1: in the solar system and suns. And what struck me,
Speaker 1: why is that actually to read this secret formula, to
Speaker 1: have the mystery unveiled, actually did nothing to destroy the
Speaker 1: mystery itself, because whether it is endlessly unpredictable and no
Speaker 1: formula can give us a key, and in fact reading
Speaker 1: this document I could I had that sense of a
Speaker 1: mystery only deaconed because the mystery of weather forecasting is
Speaker 1: bigger than the old farmer's almanac, and weather prediction will
Speaker 1: always no matter how our science advances, it always seems
Speaker 1: to be just beyond our grasp, just beyond our grasp,
Speaker 1: and yet directly influencing us. As Lauren explains in her
Speaker 1: chapter on wind, specifically with the example of long distance
Speaker 1: swimmer Diana and Nayad, who in planned to swim from
Speaker 1: Cuba to Florida for three straight days and nights of
Speaker 1: a feat that would require a little or no wind.
Speaker 1: I read something about Diana and Nyad preparing for her
Speaker 1: long distance swims, in particular from Cuba to Florida, and
Speaker 1: how she waited for a windless pocket of weather um
Speaker 1: which she referred to as a dull drums. She connected
Speaker 1: weather to climate and to these grand metaphysical questions. She
Speaker 1: talked to me about some of the thoughts that led
Speaker 1: her mind as she swims for days out on the
Speaker 1: open ocean. And she said, she said to me, it's
Speaker 1: a very small planet. I'm thinking about the melting of
Speaker 1: the polar ice caps. Where are we in the universe?
Speaker 1: Will the Earth last forever? Will the human race last forever?
Speaker 1: And you can just picture her, this tiny, tiny body
Speaker 1: in this vast, vast ocean, you know. And she says
Speaker 1: that she pictures all the animals swimming beneath her, and
Speaker 1: she can see the stars sparkling above her while waiting
Speaker 1: for the easterly winds to change. In Key West, a
Speaker 1: sailor took Diana out on the deck. Kay. She says,
Speaker 1: can you taste something gritty in your mouth? And so Diana,
Speaker 1: you know, he says, we're all standing there with our
Speaker 1: tongue is hanging out, and she says she does. She
Speaker 1: tastes something gritty, so she just assumes that she fault.
Speaker 1: You know, that makes sense. There they are on the
Speaker 1: edge of the water, but no, her friend tells her
Speaker 1: that this is actually sand from the Sahara that's blown
Speaker 1: over clear from Africa across the Atlantic. And it just
Speaker 1: struck me that idea, these tiny tiny stecks of cross ocean,
Speaker 1: almost like you know, a butterfly making it some migrations,
Speaker 1: tiny speck of sand that made it from Africa all
Speaker 1: the way to the east coast of America. This moment
Speaker 1: crystallizes the link between ourselves and the rest of the world,
Speaker 1: removing a sense of distance. Time kind of collapses because
Speaker 1: like when did that wind blow over the Sahara And
Speaker 1: suddenly the globe seems particularly small. When we talk about nature,
Speaker 1: we tend to think of all the things that we
Speaker 1: can see, trees, flowers, animals, and insects. But at its court,
Speaker 1: nature is the unseen, the forces that come together to
Speaker 1: allow our very existence in the first place. Think of
Speaker 1: the Sun's radiation beating down, driving life cycles, warming and
Speaker 1: cooling molecules until they become air movement. Then wind than gals.
Speaker 1: Nature then is weather, and weather is brutal and riotous,
Speaker 1: but it also contains its own kind of symmetry and
Speaker 1: breathtaking beauty, the same kind of beauty that we gape
Speaker 1: at when we wonder about our existence. Where we are
Speaker 1: all under the weather, and now it's time to memory,
Speaker 1: definitely on behalf of all of us here at Broadcasting
Speaker 1: House in London to shore. Very safe and peaceful night,
Speaker 1: Good hind. The Stuff of Life is written and co
Speaker 1: produced by me Julie Douglas. Original music and sound design
Speaker 1: is by co producer Noel Brown, and editorial oversight is
Speaker 1: provided by Head of Production Jerry Rowland. Thank you to
Speaker 1: Lauren Redness for discussing thunder and lightning, weather past, present
Speaker 1: and future. You can learn more about her work at
Speaker 1: Lauren Redness dot com. And thank you to Holly Fry,
Speaker 1: Dylan Fagan and Joe McCormick for sharing your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the emotional life of weather. If you like what we
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