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Speaker 1: He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary

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Speaker 1: queens rapper.

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Speaker 2: He ain't agree.

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Speaker 1: That's your boy in O R E.

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Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d

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Speaker 3: J e f N.

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Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some.

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Speaker 4: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean, and

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Speaker 4: the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source.

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Speaker 1: For drunk drink chans.

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Speaker 2: Mothers Day is New Year's c That's it's time for

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Speaker 2: drink champs.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfucker?

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Speaker 2: Would good be you hoping this would have stupid? This

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Speaker 2: is your boy in O R E. What up is

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Speaker 2: DJ e f N. This is Militopa crazy wore drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 2: When me and e f N started this show, got

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Speaker 2: together and we said, we want to give flowers, we

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Speaker 2: want to give props, we want to give love to

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Speaker 2: the people who came way before us.

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Speaker 5: You know, to the icons. To literally if.

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Speaker 2: This man that we're about to introduce right now, if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for him, this show wouldn't exist, DJs wouldn't exist,

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Speaker 2: Hit records wouldn't exist.

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Speaker 5: This man has been there, He is is all and

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Speaker 2: Legendary icon, they said, the first time you ever heard

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Speaker 2: of a scratch period in hip hop, it was his fingers.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make sure we get a fingerprint of his

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Speaker 2: fingers today. He is a legend of a legend. We

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Speaker 2: are so when we started this show seven years ago,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to give this man his flowers so bad

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Speaker 2: and we are so happy today. Me and EFN as

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Speaker 2: me and e FN because we we're gonna start this

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Speaker 1: You know what, why we do the flowers. This is

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Speaker 1: why we get the flowers. It's in case you don't

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the one.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are so happy to have you here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you're you're like crazy because you

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Speaker 5: Notes, you have got back. I think it's the only

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna key.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know I didn't think mathematically and with science.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna start this off. We're gonna start

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna get straight to it. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: Right, like for example, me being the first human sampler.

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Speaker 1: If you sniffed copd no, no you never said yes.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back.

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Speaker 1: Now I have to figure out not when he comes

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Speaker 1: That's science. There are those and I look at Wikipedia.

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Speaker 1: So now, when I listened to Curtis Mayfield song called

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy, I would notice when when my mom's

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Speaker 1: The disco DJs taught me the law of being a

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Speaker 1: should go like this. If you're playing good Times, heads

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Speaker 1: should go like that. If you're playing Queen, heads should

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Speaker 1: Drake, DJ should not be hold on okay, head should

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Speaker 2: And that's where my ship comes from, right Is DJ

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Speaker 1: Kate Kate Kate Kate. I considered him like one of

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Speaker 1: but he was he was doing it disco, you know

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Speaker 5: Because said disco. Yeah, I know, we bouncing around a

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Speaker 1: When's the first time you heard the term.

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Speaker 1: The first time I heard the term mc in? That's

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Speaker 7: All right. I was playing in sixty three park Frox.

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Speaker 1: Steve jaying. People were looking at the table. What its

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Speaker 1: his magic? Tricking that shit he's doing. I needed somebody

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Speaker 1: to take the attention off of me. I'll put a

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Speaker 1: microphone on the other side of the table, Norrie and

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Speaker 1: anybody that I could talk to. This new style of

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Speaker 1: djy in lots of motherfuckers was whack. But it was

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Speaker 1: this one guy that I eventually met. His name was

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Speaker 1: Keith Wiggins. Street name is Cowboy, Keith Cowboy, Keith Cowboy.

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Speaker 1: If I played Apache or play whatever, he had a

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Speaker 1: Almost he had him here. So now, ain't a shy

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Speaker 1: geek person that I was. I can't go into my

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Speaker 1: I asked him, do you want to say me so

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Speaker 1: we could go to different park to different areas to

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Speaker 1: I'm playing Apache, I'm playing Rufus Thomas. I'm playing an

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Speaker 1: Curtis Mayfield. I'm playing all early Man Drill. I'm playing

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Speaker 5: I want to establish this for all the listeners listening.

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Speaker 2: You're saying the very first hip hop parties.

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Speaker 1: Didn't play hip hop. What he was doing was eventually

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Speaker 1: just saying, like, because this is a hip hop Remember

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Speaker 2: But we're still think and we still got this hip

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Speaker 1: And now see this is where we different.

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Speaker 7: So the question is this what was hip hop back then?

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Speaker 1: Hip hop was a regurgitation of using songs that already

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Speaker 1: they were Latin, they were but we had to find

440
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: that little So when I started playing, I can remember

441
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: guys that used to use what I call heavy on

442
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: the toe arm type DJ N and as Pete would say,

443
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: trade records. I was probably the most hated DJ during

444
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: this time. It's because connoiseus are very careful about how

445
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: they handle their record, like newborn baby, say, take it

446
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: out of the white sleeve, right, and they carefully put

447
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: it on the turntable, and they're very careful with it.

448
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: When they finished with it, they take it out off

449
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: the turntable, he put it back into the white paper

450
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: and they carefully put it into the jacket. Me I

451
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: took copies of the motherfucking record and just slammed it

452
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: in one jacket. I was putting crayon marks or in

453
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: the whole shit so it could mark, so I could

454
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: mark the bricks because I played in dark places and

455
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I had to be able to find it immediately, which

456
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: remember our runway was really short. So when people found

457
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: out that I was putting, I was the first DJ

458
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: to make records dirty.

459
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 7: I tried getting jobs and clubs. Motherfuckers was like YO.

460
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: And some of the DJ that was play ain't at

461
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: that time when my friends aren't YO telling the boss man,

462
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 1: let me get a job.

463
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 7: You're like YO, last day know about you?

464
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Man?

465
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Like you? You moved your record back and forth, you

466
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: put your fingers on it, you crayon marks in it.

467
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't get a job to save my mother, but

468
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: they thinking maybe I probably was gonna spread that for

469
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: me today DJ. So it wasn't until I went to

470
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: this club on the off days on one hundred and

471
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: sixty seventy set in Jerome and it's Italian guys own

472
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: this disco club called disco Field.

473
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 7: All right, come on.

474
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: So I go in there and I mean Ali and

475
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: sal Sal's the son, Ali's the father, And I say

476
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: to him, well, uh, did you do you think I

477
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: could get a night in here? Because Salad already heard

478
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: of me, and I found that out recently. He went

479
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: to the park and seeing this thing that I was doing.

480
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: So by the time I got to him, I was like, yosel,

481
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you did I could get a Saturday night in your club?

482
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: He looked at me like I was fucking crazy, right,

483
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: he says.

484
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 9: No.

485
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: He says, what I will do is I'll give you

486
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: a Tuesday. I was angry as a fucking He said, flash,

487
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: if you do this, I promise you this is gonna

488
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: make you huge. I was angry at first. Two months

489
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: later Tuesday was rivaling Saturday. Then I got a Wednesday.

490
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: So this is when I started playing in clubs with this.

491
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: So I bought hip hop into disco Fever. And the

492
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: people that used to come there hecked the Mansall Camacho,

493
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: the Gap Band, like all the big stars that if

494
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: they were in town, they came to disco Fever. They

495
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: hecked a mas cocaine in the club. No you're I mean,

496
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: so are you? At that time, Oh man, I was

497
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the disco Fever. I want to say, in my early twenties,

498
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: maybe crazy.

499
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Okay, what is considered the first hip hop club?

500
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 10: WHOA?

501
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to say because when we was

502
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: playing in the parks and this is where I kind

503
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: of step out of this. In my humble opinions, I

504
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: do not think a DJ came up with the title

505
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: h I P H O P. They said Cowboy or

506
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: love Bucks Dartsky, but they both were rappers, So it's

507
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: still up for whatever for debate, debate where he came from.

508
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: I personally think, in my opinion, when we was doing

509
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: this earlier, early and early on, I think that it

510
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: didn't have a title yet. I think we were creating

511
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: something because the monster at that time was disco, and

512
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: with disco you had you had to have a hard

513
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: bottoms suit, jacket, no jeans, no hoodie, like we dressed

514
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: the way that we dressed pretty much. So as disco

515
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: was fading, hip hop came alive. But musically and how

516
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: it happens is the graffiti artist was already out there,

517
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: and I was told by these other breakdances that they

518
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: were already out there as well. They connected to herk

519
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: and to flash and to bam the rapper as we

520
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: know it. Because we jackshits, we jack words from other things.

521
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: So when they say am singing, M seeing really means

522
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you right now, and I'm a master

523
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: of ceremonies and I'm sort of presiding over the room

524
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: and I'm speaking. But we jack ship to call it

525
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: something else. Me, I think that MC is ridically talking

526
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: to the beat of a DJ's rhythm.

527
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: That's what I I personally called it. So it started

528
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: with Keith Cowboy. That's what I say that I'm saying.

529
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: That's what I say. The others say, you know, and

530
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: this is where I'm really said Cowboy here as well.

531
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm kind of confused.

532
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 7: It is because, Okay, put it this way.

533
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Coo Hurk incredible, incredible sound system, he played incredible music.

534
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 7: His crew, Cocar Rock, Timmy Tim Clark.

535
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: Say, Coclar Rock was one of the first MC two

536
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: as well.

537
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: When I went to go see them, Coca Rock was

538
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: a DJ. So I don't understand where that comes from.

539
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: So if I'm seeing, if we jack the word, I'm

540
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: seeing from the masses, and it's defined as a human

541
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: being who talks rhythmically on the beat of music. Wasn't

542
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: nobody doing that back then? We all had echo chambers.

543
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: HRK had the best echochamber. We were just blabbing out whatever,

544
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: but serious speaking to the beat of music. Maybe I'm

545
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: going crazy. I didn't see that yet. It had it

546
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: happen yet. And this is why I'm saying, out of

547
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: all the four elements, the rapid did come last, but

548
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: they are undisputedly the crown jewel all of this. They

549
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: took this thing where it had to be, and I'm

550
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: saying there was no steady beat for them to rhyme

551
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: on at that time because people were using the tone

552
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: arm and the beat wasn't steady, so it had been

553
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: absolutely impossible for a rapper to wrap on that. So

554
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: you're saying you bring that to the game, I'm saying

555
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: that I did.

556
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: Very humble.

557
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: I just had the ball even showed, because I don't

558
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: think people would understand what he means by picking up

559
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: the tone arm, the DJ wasn't mixing, blending and bringing

560
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: it on beat. They were literally picking up the record

561
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: and putting it on the record like.

562
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: Beat was crashing into the right. They weren't trying to

563
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: make it sound smooth.

564
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 3: They were just bringing it close enough by just bringing

565
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: it up and down, bringing it, just dropping the needle

566
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: on the record to switch the record.

567
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to remonstrate that when I get up there,

568
00:35:50,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: you know. So for me, like last summer, I sit back,

569
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: I watch all the press that comes out hYP Hop fifty.

570
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, first of all, they shot it on the

571
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: Bronx for years and years and years. Oh this place

572
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: has all the fires, the political upheaval, cops taking payoffs.

573
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: You know, the Bronx is fucked up, and all of

574
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, now the Bronx is the blomb now and

575
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: it's this, that, that that, and now it's mainstream. You know.

576
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, I'm saying to myself, well, if that

577
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: is the case, why is it that all the press

578
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: that I look at they say, let's start it right here,

579
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: and I just say you three And it's in two

580
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: thousand and four, So what the fuck happened to where

581
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: it started? And carefully chronologically speaking, going how it got here?

582
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: You know why that's so important because people who are eighteen, right, thirty,

583
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: forty fifty, you actually have to say you were near

584
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: sixty to say that you were in the park with us.

585
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: So much respect to the PR and to all the

586
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: depressed people. There's a whole forty eight years that has

587
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: not been put in the press that is unfair to

588
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: people like myself, like Africa Bambada, like Coolhirk, like DJ Breakout.

589
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Why isn't this press being definitively put in so that

590
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: the babies, because things work in trends right now with

591
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: the shit right now become August fourth is grand Master

592
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: last day August eleven is cool. Heirk day from August

593
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: twelfth as the next fucking trend. Maybe microphones, Maybe it's

594
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: a fucking.

595
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 7: Bottle of water.

596
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: We need we need to get this ship right now

597
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: because we're trending, because after that it goes into history

598
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: history books incomplete or incorrect. And this is why I

599
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: find it critically necessary that I do as much speaking

600
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: and I'm only one of four, what I want to

601
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: do as much speaking as possible because Norwy, you need

602
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: to know, because you're an expert in your field. You

603
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: need to know where this shape came from. Like you

604
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: said when you opened up the show before you you

605
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: should know where it does come from, who, what, where

606
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: and why. And this is the reason why I'm going

607
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: to be going to all the sunny colleges. I'm going

608
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: to the y m c A, to all the babies,

609
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: all the corporates. I'm doing this birth of a Culture

610
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: corporate tour. I'm gonna go around and speak as much

611
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: as I possibly can because I have to. This is

612
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: this is, this is our thing, and long after I'm

613
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: going I'd like to know that this thing is correct

614
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: because being quite frankly, a lot of people celebrate their birthday, right.

615
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about a birthday. You know

616
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: what I care about my death day? What am I

617
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: leaving so the babies could build on that? That's where

618
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm at. So this is why I got to speak.

619
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: You said one of the four, who's the other three?

620
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Quirk bam botta breakout flash? The four of us the

621
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: ship ain't just one person at one time frame. This

622
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: is a combination of a lot of things. I got

623
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: a bullet point thinking, Man, I'm gonna go all now,

624
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking geek. Imma, I gotta I gotta do this.

625
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, we need to to congratulate the breakdances,

626
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: to congratulate the like the producers. Why the fuck are

627
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: we not talking about to producers? Because I'm telling you

628
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: what I did. Human sampling. There was just a machine

629
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: that came into play called the computer and the sampler.

630
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: They took that same piece of information and inserted in

631
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: the computer. Hit the spacebom and tell the space to

632
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: tell the computer to repeat this loop. It's the shit

633
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: that I did. If we don't give love to these producers,

634
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: this ship would have never become big business. It's not

635
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: possible somebody had to go in and do that. And

636
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: this is why I talk about these I think it's

637
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: really important that journalists interview to the producer because a

638
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of your rappers, you'll come in and say to Ron,

639
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: you get the fuck out and keep.

640
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 7: Going, right.

641
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: Somebody got a say in the room and put that

642
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: bitch together, yep, And that is the producer. Why aren't

643
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: we talking about these people? Premiere Dre Oh shit, I

644
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: gotta fucking lift Pete Pete Rock Can I missed exactly?

645
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: Timberlind like exactly? We have to Kanye West. Let's talk

646
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: them about that because the nine times out of ten,

647
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: if you would have asked a rapper with his truncation

648
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: with a sampling, what is equeuing? We don't know that

649
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: ship right, Oh, thank you so much. They don't want

650
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: to have a clue to this. So it's just important

651
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: on how I did my science. But it's just important

652
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: as some producers in the studio in their science to

653
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: deliver the master to the record companies, and then the

654
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 1: record companies they should get love too, because they didn't

655
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: have to put this ship out. We had there was

656
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: no bootprint before this to say that this ship was

657
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna be the ball. They took a chance with this

658
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: ship to the Sylvia Roans and the rest of them.

659
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: They took Sugarhill Record. Yeah, Sylvia Robinson, all these people.

660
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: They didn't have to do this so that we could

661
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: sit here and live comfortable and eat off this ship

662
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: that we love. I'm walking into the room. I'm walking

663
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: into the up to the to the to the room

664
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: here that I'm in, and I'm like, oh, let's just

665
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: fly as a mother fucking may back right there.

666
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 7: I said, who fucking maybag is that?

667
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 11: No?

668
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: You looked at me and said, hey, man, so let

669
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: me ask you a question.

670
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: I was clear something you mentioned Marty Mark what I think?

671
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: What what he said and will is that he recreated

672
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: with flash. He was one of the first producers or

673
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: the first producer to recreate on record.

674
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, on record, that could be possibly true because it

675
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: was Cold Child and Water Brothers was probably one of

676
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: the first. But then it was Death Chair two. You know,

677
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: it's it's up for debate, but the insertion of music

678
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: inside of a new production and the human beings speaking

679
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: on it. There were three major labels that was pretty

680
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: much doing that, and that was Cole Chilling, Cole Chilling,

681
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers. Marley mar was and he was a producer

682
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: for all the artists, but Big Daddy Kane and bis

683
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: Walking all of them, you know. And then there was

684
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: sugar Hill, and then they then came Russell Simmons with

685
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: jam and Leo Cohen, you know what I'm saying.

686
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 7: And it just went from there, and it was Uptown.

687
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: Records, bad Boy Records, and it goes on and on

688
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. So this thing has

689
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: so much of a story of substance. And when I

690
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: look at the press that's happening, I'm like, who is

691
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: controlling the narrative of the press, because they're leaving out

692
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: so many things?

693
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: But it isn't. I'm sorry, but this is kind of

694
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: like the NBA, Like like when you look at the

695
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: NBA right now, right the NBA and anybody playing in

696
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: the NBA, I got so many friends, so many people

697
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: who have my phone numbers, so.

698
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: Do not call me.

699
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: Not talking about you particularly, but the NBA kind of

700
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: seems soft right now, right And it's like like and

701
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: and when you compare it to the nineties, right and

702
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: it's like if you don't have these old clips.

703
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Of the nineties.

704
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: These people don't understand that the NBA was like playing

705
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: right as out. It was like right as a boy,

706
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: and now it's like playing in fucking Barbie Land.

707
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like like Disney learned.

708
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Like.

709
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: People, please don't hit me. I don't mean it like that.

710
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is, isn't it isn't it?

711
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: Isn't it? Isn't it?

712
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Like when you see these young kids, right, these young

713
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: kids they twenty they they are twenty five and under,

714
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: and they would actually sit there and be like, Okay,

715
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get to the New Jordan's. But they're

716
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: making money through hip hop. Yes, they're making money through

717
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: hip hop, but there would go and they don't. They

718
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: haven't seen Michael Jordan play or Doctor Dre But why

719
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't they go? And yeah, yeah, why wouldn't they do

720
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: their research if they're making money through hip hop?

721
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: That's my biggest thing.

722
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay, But this new generation is like I think you

723
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: said it earlier, like like you said, the people.

724
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: Need to know and that's what they need to want

725
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: to know. That's the biggest problem too. But you gotta

726
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: teach them to know, like you have to drop the

727
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: science to these babies and say this is what it is,

728
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Now go look at go

729
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: look for the rest. Like when I play sometimes depending

730
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: on what country I'm in, Norrie, I listen all over

731
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: the world exceeds, you know, like before COVID, I was

732
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I was going to one hundred and fifty countries a

733
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: year before COVID for the past, you know, eighteen years

734
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: before COVID. So for me, sometimes I'll be playing the

735
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: old school ship all the way back to our time

736
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: and I see in the front row kids like around seventeen,

737
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, and I when I went backstage, I grabbed

738
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: two of the kids and I said, how do you

739
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: know this stuff? They said, my mom, my dad, and

740
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: my uncles. You know, my aunts taught them. So it's

741
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, Norri. You know, we as eld,

742
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: the state's people have to inform the baby. So this

743
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: is why I'm saying the breadcrumbs from the seventies to now,

744
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: you have to put all of them down. You can't

745
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: just say the Bronx say ship and then all of

746
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: a sudden, the next two years, the Bronx says the ship,

747
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: and it went putting this to that. So how the

748
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: fuck did it happen?

749
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 7: And who did it?

750
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: Some people lost their lives, some people ain't here no more.

751
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: That helped make this ship what this ship is. And

752
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: this is why I find it really important. I think

753
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: the DJ is extremely important because there was a time

754
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: before the game change. Record companies like Death Jam and

755
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: all the other labels shoots to bring me white labels

756
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning, knocking on my door saying

757
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: this shit is fresh off the fucking prints. We need

758
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: you to tell us what this record is. Twing we DJs.

759
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: You was the influence, said before influence, it was aflu.

760
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: And so all this constitutes the building blocks of why

761
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: this thing is still here. Why don't we do this

762
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: step by step by step by step by step.

763
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 7: It's just.

764
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Just boggles my mind. Let's continue the mixtape. The mixtape. Okay, wait,

765
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: wait wait.

766
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 5: I love how you control on an interview, like.

767
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: Not get it to the mix tape. I like that.

768
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: I like that. I think that. I'm sorry, you know,

769
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm just really crazy comfortable here.

770
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: What is the first term? First time you heard that

771
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: term mixtape? And was it because it was mixes on

772
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: the tape because I actually got an album on the

773
00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 2: tape cassette. There were two there were two versions of mixed.

774
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: There were two DJs that would record this shows when

775
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: we was playing back then, me and Bam Bam, and.

776
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: That's what we called it because a DJ was mixing

777
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: on tape. There's two types of tapes.

778
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 5: The Bam always have beats is one point.

779
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: He never had beats. I'm gonna talk about Bam in

780
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: the mix mixtapes. Two types of mixtapes.

781
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 7: There's the tape. There's the one. There's the one.

782
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: You pop in while we're performing and the whole group is,

783
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, doing anything. The DJ is the rapper. That

784
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: is the customized tape. Let's talk about the customized tape.

785
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: I would get called to do customized tapes for the.

786
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: Drug dealers, the street vendors, the.

787
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: Street, the street. My client teller was the street farmaceutical

788
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: people and they lived in the hall in the Halem

789
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: and the Bronx, and this.

790
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 7: Is what they would ask me. They said.

791
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: I would say to them, just give me two souls

792
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: that you like. That would give me an idea of

793
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: what they like, and I would build around that. I said, so, well,

794
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: how long do you want this cassette tape to be?

795
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: If they said sixty, I say, here's my price, a

796
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: dollar a minute, so and I would look at the

797
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: distreet pharmaceutical person and say that's what it would course

798
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: they said, so what they says, all I want you

799
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: to do is this on your echo chamber. I just

800
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: want you every few minutes to say my name, because

801
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: you gotta realize, these street pharmaceutical people had the dopest

802
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: cause the dopest motherfucking sound systems, and it was going through.

803
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: So if their name was drink Champ stream tramp all

804
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: through the through the city, show the other the other

805
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical people, You're like, yo, where the fuck you get

806
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: that comfort of mind?

807
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 7: They're wrong or we got that shit from Grand Master.

808
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: And I would and I would say, all right, what

809
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: you want sixty ninety one twenty Some would say ninety.

810
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 7: I say ninety.

811
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Dollars one twenty one hundred and twenty. Some wanted a

812
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: real to real and it'd be sixty minutes or one

813
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: side and you reverse it and that you recorded, and

814
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: that was two hundred dollars. So this is the common

815
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: kind of money I was making. When I wasn't making

816
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: money doing the parties. I actually made more money do

817
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: doing the tapes than I was doing the parties. So

818
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: now a mixtape, I think now, correct me if I'm wrong.

819
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: It's like the pre album. It's like an artist that's

820
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: not signed what mix tape even.

821
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: Signed today today out of their label Big Safe today,

822
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: but finished with you.

823
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not trying. I'm just trying to because I

824
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: don't really know what it what it became.

825
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 5: Today exactly, say today savent finish with you?

826
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: What you think?

827
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's artists that are so dope but they're

828
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: not signs yet and they can make money without the label.

829
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 7: This is what I'm thinking.

830
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: But it's it's artists that are signed as well doing

831
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: street albums.

832
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: But is it both?

833
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 5: Is he either or it's both? It's both, Yes, both both.

834
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: It's both because even artists like Faustis has a mixtape

835
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: and he sampled a bunch of beats, but he also

836
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: actually paid for the samples, you know what I'm saying.

837
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: So the fact is it's not an actual album, so

838
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't go on sound scan as an album, but

839
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: it does, I guess because they still got to pay

840
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: the producers, and ultimately.

841
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: If you ask a newer generation what a mixtape is,

842
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: they just think of an artist doing a street yes,

843
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: street a street album.

844
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 7: So it's not just so.

845
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: It could be a street album that's signed to a label,

846
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: or a street album that's not signed to a label,

847
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: and it could be an incredibly dope artist that's not

848
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: signed to a label. Right, And it's usually using beats

849
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: that they're not paying for. Usually that's what it is.

850
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 1: That's really, that's what really is what the mixtape became.

851
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: They're taking instrumentals, they're taking whatever, and they're spitting over

852
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: whatever they want and not clearing any of these beats.

853
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, then I want to ask you, how

854
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: does the mixtape today quantify the sales? How do you

855
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: know what it sold?

856
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 7: Or is it more like we called it an audio

857
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 7: flyer or.

858
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 5: The first audio DJ drama.

859
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: That's how let changed after you got everything with Internet

860
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: from the mixed ere I started doing mixtapes on cassettes,

861
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: then on CDs. I didn't like as much, but I

862
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: did it. But once everything went Internet, that to me

863
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: changed what it meant. A mixtape meant the culture. Mixtapes

864
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: to me ended.

865
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: Because even even like let's say fifty he kind of

866
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: like ushered in the artist mixtape, he.

867
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: Was still putting them on CD dipset as well, and

868
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: say so that's.

869
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: That culture of physical Once that physical culture ended.

870
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 3: I feel like kind of like the mixtape era ended

871
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: in a sense, people still put stuff on streaming said this.

872
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Is my mixtape album all But I.

873
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: Think at first when it got to the fifty dipset era,

874
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: I think that that they were the first time that

875
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't hosted by DJ right, or that was hosted

876
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: by DJ yeah.

877
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: Most of the yeah, yeah exactly.

878
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: Still a lot of those those mixtape albums incorporated the

879
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: DJ putting it together and and and doing like you know,

880
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: drops Ford and hosting it.

881
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: Okay, got it, got it, got it? So okay, I understand.

882
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: So executives got the record labels, man basically get some

883
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: love to man. Yeah, all of them. There's some fund

884
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: up people that there is there, there there is by me,

885
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a few that I know. Pretty cool,

886
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: that's right, And I'm sure you share the fucked up

887
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: when as I called him to you, Sylvia wrong, Electra

888
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: the wrong. She drew as album as well, yeah, Russell

889
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: Simmons and Leo Cohen Depth.

890
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: Jam specifically up even though either my definitely.

891
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: Have no more flash, right, you know what I'm talking

892
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: about earlier Onstable here, Yeah, yeah, historical yes, Tom Silvanan

893
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: and Monica Lynch, Tommy Boy Record Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

894
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: don't know that one. Okay, Okay, Steve Stout r c

895
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: A Records, I think what a J jay Z's first

896
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: record label, Sleeping Bag Records. Will sockle Off Okay, yeah, wait,

897
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: hell his name is so off SoC st Yeah, Steve

898
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: uh will will sockle Off Right, leave that alone, Okay.

899
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Sylvia Robinson, Sugar.

900
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 10: You Records, your Sugar Hell Records, you had a second ago,

901
00:54:52,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 10: Steve Riston, Yeah, Aaron Fukes, Tough City Records, Fred Bounet,

902
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 10: Select Records Back.

903
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: So there's a few, but there's so many more. And

904
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: to the people that's watching and listening, like, if I

905
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: do not say your label, you know or what you've done,

906
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: it would take me like five years to say all

907
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: the names, so please excuse me. So in the interest

908
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: of time, I had to put together a short list of.

909
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: That because we could have easily added and easy with

910
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 3: Ruthless Records, or yes with two life with absolutely Skywalker

911
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: Records and a J Prince will.

912
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: Wrap a lot records right exactly. So for me, this

913
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: thing has like, you know, I haven't been on the

914
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: train in fifty years, but if I were to get

915
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: on the local, not to express the local, every stop

916
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 1: is something, Every stop is something, Every stop is something.

917
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: Every there's something to talk about until you get to

918
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: hear that's it really really important. Man.

919
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 5: Let me ask you flash. Aliens come down.

920
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: They come down, Aliens from a different planet, a different planet.

921
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: They hire as a motherfucker right. They high, They on

922
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: alien shit, they on alien ship. They come to you, flash,

923
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: they flash. We need one record to describe hip hop,

924
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: one record to describe this fifty years of hip hop,

925
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: this fifty one years of hip hop. They don't want

926
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: one record? Nah no, this is his question, brother Dominicans,

927
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: come a thing one record for alien. Never heard one

928
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: never heard, he never fingerpoped nothing, He doesn't know nothing.

929
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 5: He just an alien. One record.

930
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: Nor can we go to no get too alien? Say

931
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: you know what, go ahead, you want to you top three?

932
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: It's just too to its two records. I think o

933
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: that and this is that that that are the absolute top.

934
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: If you were to say these records help start a movement,

935
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: would be Coherks discovery of Apache and my discovery. I'll

936
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: take me to the money grap by Bob James, one A,

937
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: one B.

938
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: And look for the Remember who we're talking to. Some

939
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: people that don't even understand when you say discovery of

940
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: that record what that meant. Okay, so record shopping digging,

941
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: by the way, can I stop me for my second?

942
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you something, Just show me she

943
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: have a DJ friend and y'all are on the road.

944
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: If you ever want to do something cool for your DJ.

945
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: Friend, find a record store.

946
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: It's like leaving a gamber at a casino.

947
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: I can take.

948
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Anywhere in the world, and I can leave him at

949
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: a record store and a casino and I could go

950
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: out for six hours. No one would never know what's mission.

951
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: So if you ever know to any DJ, listen, any artist,

952
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: anybody you've had a DJ friend, go overseas or go

953
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: somewhere you can bring him to a to reconstr herm

954
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: and her or her all they you know this ship

955
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: is real out right now?

956
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

957
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

958
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: If you don't want to fend nobody. Everybody can use

959
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: every bathroom.

960
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: But if you want him to a DJ friend, you

961
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: bring him to a record store and they will enjoy

962
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: the ship out of the store. By the way, these

963
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: records don't have to speak at English.

964
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: Don't matter.

965
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: These records don't have to be hip hop.

966
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: You prefer they could be harmor. But DJs are so

967
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: crazy they can listen and be like, oh, I'm taking this.

968
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you DJ's and producers, that's a treat.

969
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I gave you out a tea cold for.

970
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: So record shopping.

971
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: Record shopping.

972
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 7: I'm in my teens.

973
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: During the week I have to do my chores and

974
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: do my homework. Uh, do school work. On the weekend,

975
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting up about eight o'clock in the morning, getting dressed,

976
00:59:53,200 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: washing my ass. I am going record shopping. I'm going

977
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: to which I think used to Will the godfather of

978
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: eclectic records was Downstairs Records, Nick and Barry. Okay, in

979
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: the village, and what street was at all thirty Street,

980
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: it's been that was much later. So I would go

981
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: down to Downstairs Records, and Nick and Barry would hey, Flash,

982
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: how you doing I'll say, uh, I just want to

983
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: go through some stuff because somehow or another, these two

984
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: white boys knew how to go out and get records

985
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: that would possibly work. That's crazy. So they're like curating

986
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: before you guys. Yeah, so I'm in there. Actually, Nick

987
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: and Barry would have two rooms. There's the public room

988
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: that people come in from the street. Then there's the

989
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: room in the pack VIP.

990
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 5: You have VIP before VIP. I respect it.

991
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead. We in there all day in the turntable.

992
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm in there looking in the cup one. I'm holding

993
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: the record up in the air because you could see

994
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: the break on the record, and how you could see

995
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: this the area of the composition has a bright spot,

996
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: so that tells you that the most of the band

997
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: members are not playing. The figures not playing in that area.

998
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: I would find that pop record, put it on. All

999
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: I needed was four bars. I'm buying two copies of that.

1000
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: That was the love there. But then you would go

1001
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: to the big stores where you have no cloud.

1002
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 7: Like there was a storm who was just thirty fourth

1003
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 7: Street and eighth.

1004
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: AVEU called disco mad and this motherfuckers this store must

1005
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: have been the size of a Walmart. So you just

1006
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: in there, just searching. And I would go to the

1007
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: pop session in the rock all of them, and I

1008
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,959
Speaker 1: would look at the cover. That's what spoke to you first,

1009
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: That would speak to me first. And I remember this

1010
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: one particular one was I was in a rock session.

1011
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: The fucking album said toys in the attic. I'm like,

1012
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: who the fuck wants to put their toys in the attic?

1013
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: I held it up, put it down. I said, I'm

1014
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: gonna just think about that and just search for others.

1015
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 7: But that shit was talking to me.

1016
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: And Disco Matt no privileges. Once you break the street wrap,

1017
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: you buy it. If there's nothing on it, you fucking

1018
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: stuck with it. You gotta go to the cash register

1019
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: and pay for some I call it a.

1020
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 5: Stiff as a scram. Joe still call it.

1021
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: And I went over to the turntable and I played

1022
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: most of the records whack whack, whack, whack, whack whack.

1023
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 7: Then the band put the.

1024
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: Bam boom bampoo, put the drum break in a front

1025
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: of that ship.

1026
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god.

1027
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: This group was new then, Columbia Records, didn't nobody know

1028
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: much of who it was, and they had this they

1029
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: had a really real weird name, arrow Smith, and the

1030
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: cut on it. I would have missed it because that

1031
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: end of the cut prior got the man, this this nasty,

1032
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: fucked up guitar piece. But I stuck with it and

1033
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: I let it play, and then it got quiet onto

1034
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: the next section. I was like, oh my god, I'm

1035
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: taking two of those. But there are times when I

1036
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: look at the album cup and the fucking shit was

1037
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: whack right, But I bought two of them. I gotta

1038
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: go to the cash register and buy them. And in

1039
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: my room mom's house these I had a stiff's crate.

1040
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: So this is the purpose of this crate. When you're playing.

1041
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes DJ's mother camps, you know, because some weeks it's

1042
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: hurts and a crap. Most across come to see him.

1043
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's flash, sometimes it's breakout. Sometimes you know whoever,

1044
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: they'll send spies. You won't know who they are, but

1045
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: they twenty feet away looking at the label.

1046
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 7: So this is what I did.

1047
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: I took the two copies of the Stiffs that I'm

1048
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: stuck with, and I soaked them in the bathtub, and

1049
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: I soaked the heat and the bathtub too, until the

1050
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: label came up. And then I switched them. So now

1051
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: follow so when that DJ would come there seeing what

1052
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: that ship was, and I got to tell you years later,

1053
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: we all at they said, flash, we cleaned our house,

1054
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: cook the food, let the fucking album play, and the

1055
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: break was never there. We had a way of keeping

1056
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: our secrets. But today, ah, you know, I I there

1057
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: no more secrets. I think it's important that the kids know.

1058
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 7: But we had to have a way.

1059
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: I used to mark the record with magic marcle or

1060
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: scrape the label out and call it. If the ship

1061
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: was called fucking Fiji, I'll call the shit can C

1062
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: A N. So now the motherfucker's going looking for a

1063
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: record called can. But we had to have secrets. We

1064
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: had to to keep our fans. And that's what record

1065
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: shop was to me. And I might record shop from

1066
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: nine in the morning till ten o'clock at night, and

1067
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: I may go to a record shop and find one

1068
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: and twenty one copy in the fucking store. I'm like,

1069
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you can't get another way. He said, Man,

1070
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: this is a small label and this is all they

1071
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: had one copy. Now I'm calling stage in Brooklyn, Queen's Island.

1072
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: Do you have a fucking do you have this record?

1073
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: Because you had to have two? Wait, why did you

1074
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: have to have two? So he could bring it back,

1075
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: keep blooping it right to continue it.

1076
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: And this is their version of having an exclusive ry,

1077
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 3: saying they're hiding the record so the other DJ's camp

1078
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: couldn't see right and get that record exactly, so that.

1079
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: Drum beat to continue that drum beat, norway, I had

1080
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: to continue it. But I had that shit covered because

1081
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know who was in the building, and I

1082
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 1: wanted my fans to stay with me, so I wanted

1083
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: all my heat to stay with me. Herk was always

1084
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: up high, bam Barda had goons, breakout was way up

1085
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: in the north, so everybody was just protecting their own shit.

1086
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: But record shopping, I can remember going for twelve thirteen

1087
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: hours and not finding it, getting up Sunday and going

1088
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: again and just trying to calling around, calling around, begging, pleading,

1089
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: I need one more copy of this record. Sometimes the

1090
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: copy would be printed and it might be a red

1091
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: label for the same album somebody reprinted it. It might

1092
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: be a white label, you know what I'm saying. And

1093
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: I got two odd labels. I didn't give a fuck.

1094
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: This iss log as I was able to keep that

1095
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: beak on and keep that crowd rocking. And these are

1096
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: the things that you know, I find very important to

1097
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: talk about.

1098
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: But let me ask you because what you're saying, and

1099
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: you're describing right there, is you're describing a DJ like

1100
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: being a producer.

1101
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1102
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: That's actually kind this is kind of a producer. So

1103
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: it's kind of like to say, if you do it

1104
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: the way that you're describing.

1105
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: Which is the wrong way, louse. You don't play a

1106
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: turntable that way. I came up with the wrong way

1107
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: because your theory is the wrong way.

1108
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: That But what you're saying is basically, if you're a DJ,

1109
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: you're an automatic producer. But if you're a producer, doesn't

1110
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: automatically make you a DJ.

1111
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: Right, But I'll tell you this much, and we're gonna

1112
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: go We're gonna go back to the producers. If they

1113
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: were fifty producers on the first batch that went out

1114
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: in the eighties, forty eight of them with DJs that

1115
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: understood the law.

1116
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 7: Of a seamless loop.

1117
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 1: So from Dre to Pete Rock to Premiere to Battlecat

1118
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, to Christ the Glove tailor, all of them

1119
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: they were DJs.

1120
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 7: So they knew how one.

1121
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: To make a seamless loop, which I'm going to show

1122
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: you what that is over there. Use it and the

1123
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 1: sampler inserted at New Kicks Snaars make that shit sound incredible.

1124
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: So the rapid could come in and say what you

1125
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: can say that, he'll go leave, and then it's the

1126
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: producer and that track and making that track as fat

1127
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: as possible. That's what the majority of the DJs are

1128
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: at that time coming to help. That made the only

1129
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: incredible records Q tip, all of them they were DJs,

1130
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: and that's why all them records to this day, like

1131
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: if you if you were in the club on you

1132
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: in the spot where you playing for a couple of hours,

1133
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: it is almost impossible to not have to go back

1134
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: there and grab one or two. It's almost impossible because

1135
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: that music never died. It's all still here pretty much.

1136
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go over here. Now.

1137
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: You said that's the first beat machine in hip hop?

1138
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1139
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, what is that?

1140
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: Yes? The big box? Okay, it's called the beat box

1141
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: B box.

1142
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 5: I always thought Dougie Fresh was the B box c B.

1143
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: Doug You're gonna talk right after. We're gonna talk later

1144
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: on today too okay, so nor Red, this was my

1145
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: secret weapon. Evy DJ back then had turntables. Right now,

1146
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: there was this guy uh Dame escapes me. He lived

1147
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: in a Jackson Projects and I would hear this machine

1148
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: being played out the window. I made it a point

1149
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: to keep going back there, keep going back there, till

1150
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: finally I met this guy and I asked.

1151
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 7: Him what was it that he was playing?

1152
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: He was playing this. He was a drummer, but when

1153
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: he were practice, he would practice with this. I said

1154
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: to myself, if I can learn how to play this,

1155
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: just basic, I could come off the turntables and jump

1156
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: on this. So ray Challa, I'll manage. At that time

1157
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: said we're gonna put that on the Flyer. Secret weapon,

1158
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: the beat box. The Furious came up with the saw.

1159
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: It was a party and his own me I was

1160
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: on this sand and people.

1161
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: So l.

1162
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: So this became a secret weapon. And this got us

1163
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: more more fans. Years when by later and they were

1164
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: these super people. I called them this Markey rest in Peace,

1165
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: Dougie Fresh that decided to replicate the sounds of a

1166
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: drum with their mouths, and they made huge records off

1167
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: of this. But this is this box that I found

1168
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: and I called it the beat box. Wow.

1169
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna just mess around a little bit.

1170
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: Wow, so pretty much. And Meldon the Boys wrote a

1171
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 1: song on it. So now see knowing these are the

1172
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: kind of things that I'm talking about, and I appreciate you. First,

1173
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: you will eat Huh. That's the first you can say

1174
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: the person first drum, drum machine and hip hop period

1175
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: credecessor for yeah, the cast cast didn't even have a

1176
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: C yet.

1177
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 6: It wasn't even see you on cast.

1178
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 7: It wasn't around yet.

1179
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 1: You know, this is why I found it critically important

1180
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: to come here. And I appreciate the EFN and and

1181
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: and nor to allow me to expound, expound on this.

1182
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: Appreciate you because I'm dragging you guys in and out

1183
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: of the rabbit hole we started. Okay, so so.

1184
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 12: This song right here some of nineteen seventies, when it

1185
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 12: was me try to snap here.

1186
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: At the house Parkings in my mom's house or my

1187
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: bucker's house, the backside used to move more and his

1188
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: break still going, still going now, I thought back then,

1189
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: and I was twelve or thirteen, old records have the

1190
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: break like that, But when they didn't, that's when I

1191
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: became very angry and that's when I had to come

1192
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: up with this thing where I extended to break. So

1193
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: now all, let's I'm gonna move through a couple of

1194
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: things here. I'm gonna try to think within the five

1195
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: second law, but try to do that, okay. So the

1196
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: genius of the producers doctor Dre, like like they all

1197
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: love me, Dre loves me and he's as huge as

1198
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: he is, He's not afraid to say that I inspired

1199
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: him to do what he does. Absolutely, you know what

1200
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So.

1201
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 13: Hold on.

1202
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: That was all the genius of the producer to put

1203
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: this in the computer and a sampler and the incredible

1204
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: rhymes of nas.

1205
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 7: Let's continue on.

1206
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: And some of these records were popped. Were rocking with

1207
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: Jason and Blues, were funking with disco, they were R

1208
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: n B.

1209
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 14: You know.

1210
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: So when people ask me know where to do a set,

1211
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: I played pop rock, They're like, what the no, what

1212
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing. I'm saying, I'm playing a

1213
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: hip hop set. I'm playing what I know.

1214
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 15: This song here has has the worst name in the

1215
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 15: even in the world. Uh Sweet green Fields, Shields and Cross.

1216
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 15: The producer that did Cliff one. The producer that took

1217
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 15: Cliff one, the producer.

1218
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: That followed me.

1219
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 6: Now that's the black part.

1220
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: So all the producer did is take to see this

1221
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: loop theory that falls under the quick mix theory and

1222
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: made big records. Why doesn't the press talk about this?

1223
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: But it was in front of me. I would keep

1224
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: it beat steady, those you can still do it. Let's

1225
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: gettue on. Oh, thank you, thank you. Let's shit. Let's

1226
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: go here. Uh m hm, Let's go a little further.

1227
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: Let's go a little fir Let's go a little first,

1228
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: Let's go a little check the Ryan.

1229
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 11: So much, so much.

1230
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: If Piggy was in front of me so much, it's crazy.

1231
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: He's showing you the where he started and how that

1232
01:18:51,320 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: translated in the production. This one's quite special. H This

1233
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: recon probably would have been double leg that was sold

1234
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: a copy until it's incredible. Rapper put his voice on

1235
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 1: this feat one of my favorite freaky mules.

1236
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 11: Y're going, it's like it's where.

1237
01:19:46,040 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: So that's wh just playing this produced this ship out.

1238
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 14: If it's not damn record right, mel hold my god up.

1239
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 14: Let's play some disco. Let's play some disco. Let's play

1240
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 14: some disco. Let's play from disco. Let's play some disco.

1241
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 14: Let's play some disco.

1242
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: But the motherfucking producers, he said to yourself, let me

1243
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: let me slow this down. And these are the things

1244
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: are Presice not talking about. Why not jazz heard Albert

1245
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: don't care about this racket? Nobody? Yes, crazy, I watched

1246
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: the press last last summer. I'm like, how on earth,

1247
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: how on earth could he let stuff like this goes by?

1248
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Bam got a story. I'm sure Breakout got

1249
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:54,799
Speaker 1: a story. I'm sure her got a story.

1250
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 7: So now sure should I wait?

1251
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 3: For now?

1252
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: We canna keep talking. Okay, let's get geek. I'm gonna

1253
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: take your guys down a rabbit hole. Let's go, let's

1254
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 1: go over to the to the easel.

1255
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so.

1256
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 16: Guys.

1257
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: This took much thinking because the way DJ's playing music

1258
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: the right way was heavy on the tone R. But

1259
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: in order for me to e to connect the short runway,

1260
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: I needed a quicker way to do this. This took

1261
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: me about two and a half years to put this

1262
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: formula together because I kept saying to myself, the non

1263
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: disco DJs I heav you on a tone are to

1264
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: disco DJs to heavy on the tone. Are I have

1265
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: to stay heavy on the tone ar And it turned

1266
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: out that I couldn't right. And here's my formula. It's

1267
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: called the quick mix theory. This is this is pretty

1268
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: much the math in me and this is how I did.

1269
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: How old are you coming up with this? How old

1270
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: are you now? About fifteen? Look at this. You got

1271
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: into perspective.

1272
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 7: About fifteen sixteen.

1273
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 13: And there are DJs that make incredible sounds with this.

1274
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: But I'm not talking about the sound. I'm talking about

1275
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: the mechanics, the reason why you do it. And here's

1276
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: the math. Guys.

1277
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: Four bars four.

1278
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Way equals six counterclockwise revolutions equals full yeah, loop extraction.

1279
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do this on the turn tables in

1280
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: a little while, but I'm gonna show you to be

1281
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: deep in a rabbit hole right now. Guys, final one.

1282
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: Any watch outs I can see clockwise? Thank you.

1283
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 17: My drawing is fucked up. I'm not good like that

1284
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 17: DJ mixer. I'll this run table.

1285
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: This one is going counterclockwise counter and is this without

1286
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: you queuing it in headphones? Is this why you can?

1287
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 6: But I didn't.

1288
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I didn't figure that out until later. You could, But

1289
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct counterclockwise, so four bars forwards, it's equal

1290
01:25:51,800 --> 01:26:09,959
Speaker 1: to six counter clockwise revs r evs. This way of DJing,

1291
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: the mechanics.

1292
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 6: Of this has not changed them fifty years.

1293
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: That's not.

1294
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: I said something on the internet many years ago. I'll

1295
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: put up ten grand for anybody that can do this

1296
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: without using my mechanics. Not the machine, not a computer.

1297
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about human.

1298
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 7: Beings like you and me.

1299
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 6: Let's see still waiting, Hey, do you want to do this?

1300
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: Man? So, God is wonderful. I've been able to Nori.

1301
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what's going when you Okay,

1302
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: If then I did this when I was sixteen, I'll

1303
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: be sixty seven in the week and a half. God

1304
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: is absolutely wonderful.

1305
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: Bring bring cheering for Scram Jones. Is bring Scram Johnson.

1306
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 5: Because I want to get into the music.

1307
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: But before we get into that, we're somewhere.

1308
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: You played overseas that you was just like wow, that

1309
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 2: you was shocked that you went to Brazil.

1310
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Brazil, ninety thousand people she but there were a few

1311
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: that I played sixty thousand. On the average, I played

1312
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand, fifteen thousand. Now light work, I don't.

1313
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't do.

1314
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, you put them over there by on that side,

1315
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 2: by bad, yeah, over there on that side, yeah yeah,

1316
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: by my bad.

1317
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, you're supposed to be holding the chair,

1318
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 5: not Jamie Jesus.

1319
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, riggers, ramming, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I

1320
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: called us do super fingers. The fu's Graham Jones.

1321
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 2: You just want to shine out of here, bro.

1322
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: So you said Brazil is ninety thousand people. Get the

1323
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 1: ship out of me. What was really cool about it?

1324
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 7: It's like.

1325
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: The big E d M DJs. They do that ship

1326
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: in the regular So when I first okay, got into

1327
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: playing with them on the lineup, I remember my my

1328
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: agents said, I'm gonna put you on the lineup. That's

1329
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: a little different from what you used to do in

1330
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: the clubs, you know. And the whole ship, you know,

1331
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: it's this E d M DJ So I'm like, what

1332
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: does that mean? Electronic dance music. I'm cocky as a motherfucker,

1333
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: you know. I'm even the office, the whole ship. We

1334
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: drive to the to the to the thing for the

1335
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: sound check. This is the first time here at a

1336
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: d M. I'm looking at what I'm getting read of

1337
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: the plane in front of Nervous is a motherfucker. I'm like,

1338
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: I never did no ship like this outdoors, me and

1339
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: my little lonely turntables in this gigantic ass tape stage

1340
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: with nothing on it. I said to myself, I'm gonna

1341
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: have to do this a little. I'm not to go

1342
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: seriously hip hop with this ship. One thing about the

1343
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: E d M DJ is they grabbed. They acquired those

1344
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: audiences very easily, but they ain't asked the audience to

1345
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: do anything.

1346
01:29:53,680 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh m hm, I I'm going.

1347
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Into laptop e hip hop paray. I'm gonna flip this

1348
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: motherfucker upside down and yep, Apache take me to the

1349
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: Mardi Gras.

1350
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 7: Weren't that bitch.

1351
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Down.

1352
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 7: From that point on, I said to myself, this is

1353
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 7: what I want to do on this level.

1354
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: I got to insert hip hop and every anti hip

1355
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: hop circuit possible so they know what we fucking DJs

1356
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 1: can do.

1357
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:36,959
Speaker 2: To see.

1358
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: Ninety thousand people go like this, yes, stupid that energy

1359
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: Mine Woggley And then I talked to some of these

1360
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: idiom fans. It says.

1361
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 7: We come from nineties hip hop.

1362
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Yep.

1363
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 7: I'm like, well, he says, yeah, we come from eighties

1364
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 7: and nineties hip hop. But we just got introduced to

1365
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 7: this is where we are.

1366
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: So when I'm playing these joints, motherfucker's just reacting. I'm like,

1367
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: let's go hard, let's go apatche, just go this and

1368
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: that that flip the whole room upside down. Wonderful, look, man, wonderful.

1369
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Look what's going on with the scram Scoop? So good

1370
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: to see your baby.

1371
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 5: Because when scramplay DM, he takes ecstasy.

1372
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 1: I guess you got it. You don't have that experience.

1373
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: You don't, I'll just ask, you know. That's what talk about.

1374
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm straight sober when I play because I got I'm

1375
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: seeing things go reverse fort reverse forward four six six

1376
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: four four six, the inversion. I gotta be really sober

1377
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: when I do it, you know. But you know, you know,

1378
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: out of all of this, I love the idea of

1379
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: watching my mechanics and watched people like Scram play.

1380
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 5: Not the name Flash right? Was you a comic book guy?

1381
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 11: No?

1382
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 7: I got Flash on Flash Gordon.

1383
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 18: No.

1384
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 1: I lived nine twenty seven Fox Street in the Bronx

1385
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: and then down the block. One of my best friends

1386
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: was named Gordon. Now what I did do is I

1387
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: ran fast. I ran fast, so Gordon named me Flash.

1388
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: And then three years later I moved my UH set

1389
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: and I got down with a gentleman by the name

1390
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: of Me and Jean, and it was it was on

1391
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Boston Road where I started doing my parties at a

1392
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: place called the Black.

1393
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 7: Door, right, And.

1394
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I want to say seventy two, seventy three, seventy four,

1395
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly.

1396
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 7: One of the most notorious gangsters.

1397
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Like, when we did our parties, we knew our motherfuckers

1398
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: is gonna try to pluck it up, so we had security.

1399
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Some people were allowed to carry the gun, some weren't.

1400
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Joe Kid was allowed to carry the gun. We knew

1401
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna pop off for nobody. He was kind

1402
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: of just watching my back him in a castanovs, right.

1403
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, they were security. They were my security, you know,

1404
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: along with the Boston Road Boston roll crew. And it

1405
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: was New Year's seven. I'm gonna say seventy three, let

1406
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: me say seventy four. Let me just say I'm bad

1407
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: with days. After the party was over, he says, you

1408
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: handle those turntables like a grand master. Oh, I'm like,

1409
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 1: what did you just say? He says, you handle these

1410
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: turntables like a grand master. The next day I went

1411
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: to every library possible trying to find out what that

1412
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,759
Speaker 1: word meant. Karate, right, and then karate and the people

1413
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: that do the chest. Bruce Lee was big with us

1414
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: back in the day. If he was a DJing party

1415
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: and we was going to see Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee

1416
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: was big so and I can remember after Joe Kidd

1417
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: did that, I'm walking down the street because I was

1418
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 1: just DJ Flash.

1419
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 7: Now I'm going.

1420
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Master, grand Master flash.

1421
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 7: Master, rand Master, rand Master Flash.

1422
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: And I got used to it, and did Rach Hanner

1423
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: put it on the flyers grand Master Flash and the

1424
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: beat box, you know, and then our crowd just got

1425
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger, you know.

1426
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 2: And now you, you and Grandmaster Cast ever had anything

1427
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: because of the grand Master's.

1428
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 9: I mean.

1429
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Grand Master Cast was called something else before that original

1430
01:34:55,000 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: grand Master. You know, I have, I mean me and it.

1431
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 7: We love each other, we ain't be for with each other, right, But.

1432
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 2: So how did you feel like because you had to

1433
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 2: use the first grand Master, then he was going about

1434
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 2: a different name and then he came up with grand Master.

1435
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we we grew up together. I didn't. I

1436
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: didn't have no problem with it. You know, It's just

1437
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: that I learned quickly because I was an idiot when

1438
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: I signed to sugar Hill. When I got older, it's

1439
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: like anything you do copyrighted trademarket because what happened to

1440
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: me in the record business. So I you know, if

1441
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: you're going to use it, if you're gonna use grand Master,

1442
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop up first.

1443
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 7: So there are a few people that want to call himself.

1444
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: Grand Master, but they're saying Joseph Sadler is the owner

1445
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: of the title.

1446
01:35:58,160 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 7: Joseph Sadler's me.

1447
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: You know, you learned. You learn when you get burned,

1448
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,759
Speaker 1: you learn. And it was a time when I was ignorant.

1449
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm dumb, So you get smart after a while and

1450
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: you pick a shit out, you know what I mean?

1451
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: How competitive were were you guys, the different crews back then?

1452
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: You know something, we didn't really battle with each other

1453
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: too much. You know now that you know hindsight is this.

1454
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: We were like four corporations. Breakout had the North, Cork

1455
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: had the West, I had the East, Bam had Bronx River.

1456
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Whenever I wasn't playing, I go see herk or I'd

1457
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: go see Bam, I go see Breakout. Me and Breakout

1458
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: never played together. I think that bad or HERK played together,

1459
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 1: but I never played with HERK. Me and band played together,

1460
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. This thing didn't become a battle thing

1461
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: until the next tier came, because now people is battling

1462
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: for their existence. The fourth fors Hacken was already kings

1463
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: in our whole lives. We were established. So all the

1464
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: crews that became the understudies or became prodigies, now they're

1465
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: battling for this. And that's when a lot of people

1466
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: were going into different territories. But with the first four,

1467
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the problem why we we didn't play with each other

1468
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: whole lot is because the gang violence was.

1469
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 7: Nuts.

1470
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: You go into a wrong area, you might not make

1471
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: it out of there. So and I'm talking about the

1472
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,759
Speaker 1: black space of Black Pearls, Savage Skulls, seven, Immortal Freeze Donation,

1473
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: because that's what right now. Now we're gonna go into

1474
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: Bam so Bam shopping for records having the most beats

1475
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Numero Uno Bam had more beats. If you played a

1476
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 1: patche he had four different versions. If you played the bells,

1477
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: he had six different versions. He had records like where

1478
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: did you get that from? Kind of records. You couldn't

1479
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: fuck with his collection. So let's not look past the

1480
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: situation that he's in right now.

1481
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 7: If I were to.

1482
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: Do a short blurb on Bam, King of the Beats,

1483
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: absolutely and he's doing that calmed down this gang violent shit.

1484
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: And I think, personally, in my opinion, if he didn't

1485
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: do that, they wouldn't have been too many block parties

1486
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: because their motherfuckers would have been up in there shooting,

1487
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 1: stabbing the whole shit. So a lot of them groups

1488
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: he turned them around, and then these groups became security

1489
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of us, like a lot of the

1490
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: Black Spades and the Pearls became casting overs. They were

1491
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: my crew that rode with me on security, along with

1492
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: the Boss and road crew. So he that that day

1493
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 1: he did he did a big thing there. You know

1494
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Uh, I miss him, but you know

1495
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 1: he's sitting on the situation that he's in.

1496
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 7: He was big on that.

1497
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: Uh HERK if I do a short blurb on him.

1498
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: He had a sound system that we all wanted. He

1499
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 1: could play some of these old old house party records

1500
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: on his sound system, and that ship was absolutely amazing.

1501
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 17: His ship was.

1502
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: In incredible sounding. His record collection was also pretty decent.

1503
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: The technical aspect, me and him, we go back with that,

1504
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: back and forth with that. I say me, he say him,

1505
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 1: wait it again for part, the technical part or who

1506
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: did one on the ones and the whole ship and

1507
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: how it works out? You know, his thing it's called

1508
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: America around minus is called the quick Mixedterey, you know.

1509
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: And I love the ground he walks on. You know.

1510
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 1: When he got sick, I was one of the first

1511
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: first people looking for him, and I went to Yankee Stadium,

1512
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: not to only see the acts, but just strictly to

1513
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: go see him in his dressing room and see how

1514
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: he's doing.

1515
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 7: I'm saying, what's up, old man?

1516
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, I'm cool, old man, I says, Man,

1517
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: lots of wars, lots of we went through, you know.

1518
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 7: He looks at me. I look at him.

1519
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't fight no fucking more. He said,

1520
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 1: I ain't fight no more either. Man. We're too old

1521
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 1: for that shit.

1522
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

1523
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: But now it's a time. Yeah, yeah, Cause me and

1524
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Heck we hurt. We battle about who did what and

1525
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: what did who?

1526
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 2: Right?

1527
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 19: You know so me.

1528
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: I think these years now this year especially Nori is

1529
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: show and tell no more quiet, holding it, marking it,

1530
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, and hiding what it is. It's time for

1531
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Hirk's crew to talk. It's time for a Breakour's crew

1532
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: to talk. It's time for band like it should be.

1533
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, I would love it if all of

1534
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 1: us can sit down at one table. This will be

1535
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: the biggest This would be the biggest story and hip

1536
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,879
Speaker 1: hop ever, just sit down, have it and tell stories.

1537
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: How was it at your mom and dad's house and

1538
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: how was it and what got you into it? I'm

1539
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: telling you my portion of it, but it's three more

1540
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: and that adds on to how this thing progressed.

1541
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 2: All right, So it's four y'all to get together. And

1542
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 2: then y'all say we want to add one MC.

1543
01:41:55,120 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: Why you gotta fuck with me regard actually give you

1544
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 1: if I want to have one MC, one wrapper one

1545
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 1: in this.

1546
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 2: Y'all falling one rapper at Eddy ever in time, any

1547
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: area in time. I'm getting the about it any aer

1548
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: in time, won man, It's on you, everyone say flash

1549
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 2: just you will to pick the m C.

1550
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: Every MC want to be there too, Okay, m HM

1551
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 1: one one. I'm not Yeah, that was warned about your father.

1552
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 7: Want to he said, are you gonna ask.

1553
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: Getting questions? One?

1554
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 5: I want see join y'all at dinner and talk some ship.

1555
01:42:54,680 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: It's up to you not to one one Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1556
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: I get you too.

1557
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:10,799
Speaker 20: Before if you were still here, I would say cowboy

1558
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 20: que cowboy yeah makes a noise, fag.

1559
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 3: Don't forget the fourth the blurb for the fourth. But

1560
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 3: you said body he said, hrk yourself.

1561
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, and breakout?

1562
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: Did you say the blurb for him? What you would

1563
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: say about him? All?

1564
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 2: Breakout because he's like, out of everyone that you name,

1565
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 2: he's like the.

1566
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 5: Least known of right.

1567
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 7: That's that's why I wanted.

1568
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Breakout first DJ to have a female MC shot Rock

1569
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: up the shot Rock Shot Rock, you know, Like now, I.

1570
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 7: I felt so sorry for us because this is the

1571
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 7: male dominated that.

1572
01:43:54,000 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Was grew up on my back down right now, absolutely connected,

1573
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm going back get it. She was only the MC

1574
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: that and she had to contend with all of us.

1575
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: You know, So DJ Breakout in the four plus one,

1576
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: so break your Shot Rock has shot Rock sound system.

1577
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty like herks, but that ship was loud

1578
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: like hurks and if I could speak scientifically, his base

1579
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 1: bottoms will reverse. The wolf was put in reverse and

1580
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: he threw the hole in the back. They re poored

1581
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: it and he had him angled. They were garbage cans,

1582
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: the big garbage cag with the base bottoms. So when

1583
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: he played the big beat boo like the bass was

1584
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 1: like gum. It was incredible. He had an amazing sound system.

1585
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: Was called the Mighty Sasquatch was called the Hercules Mines,

1586
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 1: was called the Gladiator. But my ship was kind of whack.

1587
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: Bands was just I don't know what bands was called.

1588
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't think BAM had a name, you know, but

1589
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: these are the things that I love talking about.

1590
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: We love hearing it now, White lines how much cocaine

1591
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: was in that studio session.

1592
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 7: This guy, let me be totally honest with you.

1593
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 2: By that time, by the way, we was looking at

1594
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 2: the lyrics coming here.

1595
01:45:47,800 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't write lyrics, okay, So like we were probably

1596
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: the tightest unit in the streets, mean and five, you know,

1597
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: we just go being easy, Mike. Then when we got

1598
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: into the record situation and I realized that we weren't

1599
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: weren't in a great situation. I was the first one

1600
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: that wanted to leave. Uh, but it didn't happen that way.

1601
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: So from the six of us, three went with me

1602
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: to Electra and three pretty much stayed back. That record

1603
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 1: was on its way to being made. We left by then,

1604
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: so Mel and the rest of them made that record.

1605
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: So that's actually million Maail's record.

1606
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm not gonna lie.

1607
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 2: Whenever I met a like a like a like a

1608
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 2: white industry party and that record, come on, you know, I.

1609
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Know the white people, but I know it's a great

1610
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Millie is a great rid. But by that time we

1611
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 1: had split, you know, and yeah, that was his record.

1612
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 6: You found out sample of the Cavern.

1613
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:07,719
Speaker 2: Of course I did right your record because people credit

1614
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 2: that to the some say reality rap. Right, so people

1615
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: say that's the first song that details reality rap.

1616
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:15,719
Speaker 1: And then some people.

1617
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 2: Outright say that that is the first message because white

1618
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: message was first. Yeah, but that's broken glass. Everybo thea

1619
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 2: talking about getting coked. That's a message I ain't gonna

1620
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: live man, white. And we thought they were subtle until

1621
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 2: this morning we listened to the white White.

1622
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 1: Dig I'm like, Diego, you know, it's record better than me.

1623
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: But I come to find out Diego's.

1624
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 2: He's he's reading the words and I'm like, damn, these

1625
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 2: words are pretty foul.

1626
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: Like a great writer, tell me split by till me split,

1627
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: and uh they continued on, and we continued on with

1628
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: an electro pretty much.

1629
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 2: Sylvia Rome wasn't there yet all Sylvia Rome was there.

1630
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: She's not.

1631
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 7: She wasn't in a powerful position.

1632
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: And she said now and she deserves every bit of

1633
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: what she did because she was always the first one

1634
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: to say, let's work it out.

1635
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 7: She didn't she she didn't really Sylvia.

1636
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 1: It wasn't really business business talking was more like friendship,

1637
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: like what does you what you want to do?

1638
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 7: How can we make it work? Could we tweak it

1639
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 7: a little bit?

1640
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,640
Speaker 1: You know? She had like a heart. That's how I

1641
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: remember m Sylvia Sylvia Rome.

1642
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 2: And how about the masters? Did you guys go back

1643
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 2: and get your masters?

1644
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:53,719
Speaker 1: Like everyone?

1645
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 18: No?

1646
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 2: Whoa so yeah?

1647
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 1: I said no. That got a little messy with the

1648
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: record label and the group. Yeah, you know, because after

1649
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: a while we we broke up. We all went out

1650
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: in separate ways. I went on and did what I

1651
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: had to do, but then we got back together to

1652
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: figure out how we could.

1653
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 7: Make this happen.

1654
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 1: Because New World now, shit could be played on things

1655
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: like Spotify and all this. It's a new all these

1656
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: new lanes and the whole ship. So we had to

1657
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 1: get together and figure out how we could. So we

1658
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: got a company who handles that right now, so we

1659
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: get royalties coming in, you know, I get a couple

1660
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: of checks now finally, So it's it's not bad. I

1661
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 1: do think if I had understood the business back then,

1662
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 1: things would have been financially much better now.

1663
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 7: But you live and you learn.

1664
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, there's some things, you know a lot of things.

1665
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm perfect at that type ship contract with illegal and

1666
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: this and that that that didn't have a clue about that.

1667
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 7: But now our ship plays, we get paid.

1668
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: And Rick James was the first person to tell you

1669
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 2: because this like roomors like even a prince like not

1670
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: wanting to deal with artists who didn't own their masters that, yeah.

1671
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: He didn't want to deal with artists like not not

1672
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: not to with it, like he didn't want to nas.

1673
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 2: It's the famous story like we act nas like what

1674
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 2: is the person that turned you down? And now I said,

1675
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 2: one time he asked Prince to get on the record,

1676
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 2: and Prince just asked him, do you own your master's

1677
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 2: and then Nas was like no, and he was just like, yeah,

1678
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 2: well get back to me.

1679
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 1: When you own you probably you probably he knew what

1680
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: the game was like. And this is back then Prince

1681
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 1: ben dead like ye, Like.

1682
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 3: He said something like I don't want to put the

1683
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 3: like the executives of the I don't want to put

1684
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 3: their kids through college.

1685
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 5: I'll put yours. That's hard, that's hard, that's hard, you

1686
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

1687
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,719
Speaker 1: I think of how young Prince was and think.

1688
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 2: About how much he must have like NOAs my brother,

1689
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: think how much he must have fucked Nas up. But

1690
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you don't expect that, like you

1691
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 2: can't do a record with me? Yeah, do you own

1692
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 2: your own master's you know what I mean? Like that

1693
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 2: feels it's probably like the smartest answer you could probably

1694
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, answer with So.

1695
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: WHOA I didn't know about I didn't know that about

1696
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: prin don't know that about Rick James.

1697
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 2: Because like Rick telling you, like yo, you're schooling you

1698
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 2: about publishing? Was that like like that type of insensative

1699
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 2: I knew I was in trouble after I talked to Rick.

1700
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 2: Business wise, I knew cocaine and all that. Rick still

1701
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 2: knew his ship.

1702
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 1: I knew we was in deep ship. We know, uh

1703
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: learning the business because we learned the business too late. Wow,

1704
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: we was really young. So but I'll say this again,

1705
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: with the work that I put into this, that's why

1706
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I say birthday, I don't give a fuck about it

1707
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: my death day. What am I going to be behind

1708
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: for you younger people?

1709
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because man, I'm gonna just tell you man like

1710
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,799
Speaker 2: you are, like, I'm gonna I'm gonna read a message

1711
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna y'all tell.

1712
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 7: Me and I want to talk about some people.

1713
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: Many you gotta return whatever you you said something up

1714
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: over there too. Yeah, get me to do some Get

1715
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: me do the analog version.

1716
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: This is someone who says Grandmaster Flash to not hear

1717
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 2: his name mentioned in the Crazy Legs with disrespect. F

1718
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 2: y I Kirk cannot dj as we do today, he

1719
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: cannot blend records. Flash invented turntable lism as we know

1720
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 2: it today. There's no debating this. Flash invented the slip matt,

1721
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 2: which required a slip matt and the art of juggling

1722
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 2: a record to seamlessly extend a break, which allowed a

1723
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 2: rapper to wrap.

1724
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 1: Cowboy was the.

1725
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: First one to do it Kirk and Bambarda did it

1726
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 2: like Jamaican's.

1727
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was I don't know if

1728
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 1: that was like a shot.

1729
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, I was born in the Bronx and

1730
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,759
Speaker 2: did it like Jamaicans did. They just chucked the records

1731
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 2: and breaks on without blended. Herk refused to learn how

1732
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 2: to juggle flash style and has invented flash to advised

1733
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,679
Speaker 2: Flash to this day, Flash can tell you the story himself.

1734
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 2: You need to interview him. He's the godfather of hip hop.

1735
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 2: Herk was the godfather of hip hop party. Bambada had

1736
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: the streets, big Big, I got you, I.

1737
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: Got I got said, I don't know what they took

1738
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: a shot?

1739
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 6: Yea, what did you?

1740
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: What do you think about?

1741
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 9: The hell?

1742
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 17: On?

1743
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 11: Who?

1744
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: Well?

1745
01:53:55,560 --> 01:54:00,600
Speaker 10: Just let many.

1746
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 1: Okay, y okay, okay, lady. The enemy, that's the enemy.

1747
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: It come to the turntable wants to cut me off.

1748
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 1: So when you first bought the turntable, it comes with this.

1749
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, okay, Mike

1750
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 3: move man.

1751
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 1: I do not to this day, fifty two years later,

1752
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand what the purpose of this survey, because,

1753
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: like I told you earlier in the interview. The disco

1754
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: DJ had a long runway I roll with it was

1755
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: really short. So when I moved the microphone closer to him, guys,

1756
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: So when I put the record, I'm saying to myself,

1757
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get to the beat quicker and connect the

1758
01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: duplicate records quicker to make the seamless loop when I

1759
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: put the needle down, because this is the right way,

1760
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: which is being sarcastic. That's when he says the way, Yeah,

1761
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: this is the right way to DJ, because that's the

1762
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: way we're doing it. That's the way they DJ. But

1763
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: when I started figuring out when I look at when

1764
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: I looked at the record, I knew to myself, Flash,

1765
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 1: it is fucking impossible. Because you look at the record

1766
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 1: this she got ten million grooves. How can I pick

1767
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 1: the arm up and hit that spot every time and

1768
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 1: keep it seamless and smooth. It's impossible. And that's when

1769
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: I started thinking to myself, I have to learn how

1770
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: to play the turntable the wrong way. I have to

1771
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 1: go outside of what the norm was according to the

1772
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 1: disco DJs and the non disco DJs that were heavy

1773
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: on their tone arm and my first move was to

1774
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: study the components.

1775
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:11,879
Speaker 7: The cartridge.

1776
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: Contriin comes in two classifications, ceramic and magnetic. The ceramic

1777
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: culture came out in the sixties the seventies, but it

1778
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 1: didn't translate well over records that had heavy bottom. So

1779
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: here comes to the magnetic cartridge. Then I studied the needle.

1780
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 1: The needle was called the stylist. Stylist comes in two classifications.

1781
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 1: There's the elliptical. Now this is the groove. The elliptical

1782
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 1: needles sat in the groove halfway because when I tried

1783
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 1: to spin it back, it kept spinning out of the groove.

1784
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: It's epherical. Conical needle was shaped.

1785
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 7: Like a nail.

1786
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 1: So when that sat in the groove, and I went

1787
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 1: back and stayed in the groove. Although the elyptical needle

1788
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: sound better, the conical needles sound like shit, but it

1789
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: stayed inside of the groove. Needle figured out turntable. I

1790
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: went in the backyard, took as many turntables out of

1791
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: this brown Blox stereos that was in the backyard. Maga

1792
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: the box Fisher price seen if One day I was

1793
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 1: coming home from the school, there was a store and

1794
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 1: a Hunts Point. Part of the Bronx called Dick mar

1795
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 1: There was this gray battleship, nasty looking table in the window.

1796
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: It had these things on it looked like they had

1797
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: the mumps. I go inside this door and I say

1798
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: to the first salesperson, I'm doing a study on turntables.

1799
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: Is it possible because you take that turntable out of

1800
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 1: the window because I'm doing his study. He says, I'll

1801
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 1: be right back. He comes right back with two football

1802
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 1: player dudes, because he was under the impression that I

1803
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: was trying to steal or take the turntable, and I says, no, sir,

1804
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: I was not. I'm doing a study on turntables, and

1805
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 1: I just want you to just put it on account

1806
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 1: to plug it in because I want to test something.

1807
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: And what I wanted to test is when the platter

1808
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: is in a state of inertia, how long does it

1809
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: take to pick up the speed? Turntables back then took

1810
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: a whole turn, half a turn, three quarters of a turn.

1811
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: Just particular turntable picked up in a quarter of a turn,

1812
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: which meant the tor the muscle on that platter will

1813
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 1: be able to go clocklockwise while I went counterclockwise. The

1814
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: big problem was I didn't have the money, so I

1815
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: asked at Vicmar, which was the name of the store,

1816
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 1: how much would the turntables. He says, there's seventy five

1817
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 1: dollars apiece. And I looked down at the company. I

1818
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: never heard of it before. It was this little label

1819
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: called Techniques thirty five dollars apiece and we ain't got

1820
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 1: me a messager job. I worked at Cramp text Fabrics

1821
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 1: fourteenth for a boat throwaway and I went delivering swatches

1822
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: to different company and this is swatches is like the

1823
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: material that design is used before they make the outfit.

1824
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 1: I also used to go to the supermarkets and any

1825
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: elderly person that needed help with their their their bags,

1826
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 1: their groceries and stuff, I would help them to their house.

1827
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 1: So I had to make one hundred and fifty dollars

1828
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: to get these two turntables. And when I finally got

1829
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: them and I got them home, there was this big

1830
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 1: nasty rubber thing on this Now in my mind, I'm

1831
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: already saying to myself, I have to be able to

1832
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 1: go counterclockwise, and when you try to go counterclockwise with that,

1833
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: you will notice the whole platter is going counterclockwise. I'm

1834
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 1: like no, this is not working. My mother was a seamstress.

1835
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 1: I watched her make our clothes polyester rayon, silk, cotton, leather,

1836
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 1: swede felt.

1837
02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 6: Let me, that's case saying.

1838
02:00:56,360 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: Felt. I remember member felt because in grade school we

1839
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: used to cut out letters and if you cut out

1840
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 1: letters looking really good, you get five stars. You'll be

1841
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 1: going home.

1842
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:19,040
Speaker 16: Mommy would like love you open that up. So felt,

1843
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 16: it's limb, pray limb.

1844
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: This became the enemy. Well, mom wasn't looking. No before Mom,

1845
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 1: I ran to the material store because I used to

1846
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 1: watch the ball make clothes. I'm going through the.

1847
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 13: Aisles polyester, rayon, cotton, silk.

1848
02:01:56,680 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: Felt. I bought two pieces felt that was the size

1849
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 1: of two albums and it was very very length the felt.

1850
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: So when Mom was looking, I did. I took this

1851
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: spray starch and I sprayed it on what I called

1852
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 1: the wafer, and I called it a way for ladies

1853
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. It's because during the Easter, Mom used to

1854
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 1: get us shark and take us to the neighborhood church.

1855
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys know about this.

1856
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: What during the easy to give you this to a

1857
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: white wafer thing to eat I called it a wafer.

1858
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 1: And when I ironed it and I put it on

1859
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: the turntable, I called it a wafer an the other

1860
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 1: ones today. But there was what the opponent missing. Let me,

1861
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 1: let me, let me get that part.

1862
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 21: When I put the wafer on top of the platter

1863
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,839
Speaker 21: and I put the record on top of the wafer,

1864
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 21: there still was a degree of resistance because I could

1865
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 21: feel it. My sisters on my mom used to make

1866
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 21: these chocolate chip cookies on this type of paper.

1867
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 1: I cut out the circle amount of it, and then

1868
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 1: I put I put the wax paper on this on

1869
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 1: the platter, and I put the wafer on the wax paper,

1870
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: and I put the record on the wafer, and now

1871
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 1: no resistance. When I went counter clockwise, problem solved.

1872
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:54,320
Speaker 6: How long is that presence?

1873
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 1: Give me a second four block or with six counterclockwise.

1874
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:04,080
Speaker 1: This is where I got stuck. And this is where

1875
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: I almost walked away. When I walked away, for about

1876
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 1: two or three weeks, I got stuck. Why is it

1877
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 1: the vinyl going four bars? Let's take good times? Four bars?

1878
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 1: Do do do do do, don't do doom doom doom

1879
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: do do do do do do do do four bars. Statistically,

1880
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 1: it takes the brain four bars to understand a new song.

1881
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 1: So for me, the problem for me was I had to.

1882
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 22: Play the songs the wrong way. So what I did was,

1883
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 22: first things first, I put crayon on.

1884
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 1: The mark because this break happens to be on the top.

1885
02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 1: So now we're gonna do this with one record first,

1886
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: four boss first, and we're gonna count four bars one, two,

1887
02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 1: three and four right now, four boss forward? Why is

1888
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 1: it if I bring it back four bars? Why might

1889
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:54,120
Speaker 1: wrong place? Four bosses went by? It passed the line

1890
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:57,200
Speaker 1: four four times, and this.

1891
02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 16: Is what stoped me, goes Ram, you wear your white

1892
02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 16: hand wall loom.

1893
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:10,200
Speaker 6: Don't don't as the.

1894
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: Going I wear four moss, Like, why didn't I go

1895
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 1: fit the best? Why?

1896
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:31,960
Speaker 6: Why it's not really a clear instagram?

1897
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 1: Don't answer that with the speed. No it doesn't. That's

1898
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:37,480
Speaker 1: to me. That's what I'm thinking.

1899
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 6: Speed if necessarily amount of it?

1900
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 1: Answer, but she was choo, I don't know what he

1901
02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: did guns right? Go on?

1902
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 23: Okay, it's because the average you were cloth the average

1903
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 23: seed all that album best falls inside fins thirty three.

1904
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 13: And a third.

1905
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: Because of forty five that will.

1906
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 6: Be different than.

1907
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:16,280
Speaker 24: Say eight the same year season two more, but I

1908
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 24: have to re arrive on the top of the break,

1909
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 24: and I'm.

1910
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 1: Gonna show you how it works. And the Bird of

1911
02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: the Quick three weeks to feel three, three weeks I

1912
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:27,840
Speaker 1: walked away. I was mad at the fall four pause

1913
02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 1: four with why can't I go? Four bars back? And

1914
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm in the wrong place.

1915
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 6: I got a question.

1916
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 1: So any any speed be right? Eddie speed me four

1917
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: to six, four to six, forty six, any b any

1918
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:40,880
Speaker 1: speed forty five, thirty three, sixteen, she could be a

1919
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 1: that could be whatever right, I'm gonna show you. Member, man,

1920
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 1: hell but I'm kind of seeing four. Okay, I'm gonna

1921
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 1: show you right now, let's do. Let's go through it, man,

1922
02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:56,720
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go through it now. Good, let's go.

1923
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 1: And I'm doing the real basic, no fancy ship seem

1924
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: as lou.

1925
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 19: One two three four five six shick throw, one shoe

1926
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 19: three four five six shack.

1927
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 11: Throw.

1928
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 1: Let's do it with a rock record. When I told him,

1929
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 1: I howk that ship? Let's go.

1930
02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:37,080
Speaker 25: We a white point record, down, white record, right down,

1931
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 25: here we go. One tchoo three four five six shack

1932
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 25: throw one two three four five six check.

1933
02:08:59,480 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 1: Throw.

1934
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 25: Let's use a jazz record. This's a jazz record. This

1935
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 25: is a Jazz records tough line two three four five

1936
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 25: six check bro one two three four five six check.

1937
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 8: Now.

1938
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 1: So now, now there's some songs that are an exception

1939
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 1: to the rule and it's just two bars. And if

1940
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 1: it's two bars, now this becomes two b effort, this

1941
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: becomes three counterclockwise resume revolutions, full loop extractions all at this.

1942
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 26: How I almost slipped on this record when I heard

1943
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 26: this and I put I put the deed.

1944
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 1: Now this one. When I went in a record shop,

1945
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: this death. It was annoying as fucking It was long

1946
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:40,880
Speaker 1: as fuck. I almost missed this bitch, and so I

1947
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 1: let it play for a little while.

1948
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:55,080
Speaker 8: One two three check call one two three check go

1949
02:10:56,720 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 8: one true three check call. This is the quick knick

1950
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:19,000
Speaker 8: theory because no, it's because the drunk PAM was so short. Okay,

1951
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 8: so if because most of.

1952
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:22,080
Speaker 6: Those were similar to BPM.

1953
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 1: So my question is would that apply for a one

1954
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 1: a house factor or something like that. I'll try that.

1955
02:11:27,560 --> 02:11:29,680
Speaker 1: I never tried that, But it has to be four bars,

1956
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 1: because four bars for four bars like this this this device, this,

1957
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:40,320
Speaker 1: this device is static. So four bars on a house

1958
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 1: record would still be six counterclockwise to get back to

1959
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:48,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of that particular section. You did what I'm saying, Like,

1960
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:51,280
Speaker 1: if it's a house beat and it goes into something

1961
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:54,440
Speaker 1: funky for four bars, you still would have to go

1962
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: six count of clockwise to get back with it. Because

1963
02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:00,800
Speaker 1: this is static. So this works with a record, a

1964
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:04,360
Speaker 1: rock record, a jazz record, a blues record, and every

1965
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 1: genre of records in the world. So when I figured

1966
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 1: this out, this, yes, all of them. This is what

1967
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 1: made me so this is this is what made me dangerous.

1968
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 1: This is what made me dangerous, and this is what

1969
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 1: made DJs had to go back and retool because they

1970
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna try, I'm gonna try. This is what

1971
02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 1: I call let's use seven minutes, let's use that. Have

1972
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 1: you on a tone on. I don't give a fuck

1973
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 1: who you are. It is impossible to do what I

1974
02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:52,160
Speaker 1: just did by just doing the tone arm. Now you

1975
02:12:52,320 --> 02:13:04,800
Speaker 1: have no control of the record. You're doing this. That's

1976
02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:15,960
Speaker 1: peak rock causes trade record. A rapper cannot wrap on this.

1977
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 1: A dancer maybe they could dance all that.

1978
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 27: Just now you have no control, no control, right transition

1979
02:13:33,480 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 27: the law come on talking, no, no, no, don't talking,

1980
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 27: don't talk in private.

1981
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 1: That's it.

1982
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 6: The sign between the drops. I seem like you disgratuated,

1983
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 6: like bringing it.

1984
02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 1: Back now.

1985
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 6: That what's the sign that this is?

1986
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:52,360
Speaker 1: This is this is DJing the right way. This is

1987
02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:55,560
Speaker 1: DJing the right way. You don't put your hands on

1988
02:13:55,640 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 1: the record too much. You don't you know, and you

1989
02:13:57,880 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 1: put it down and you move it over right, scram

1990
02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:15,200
Speaker 1: We break the law. Louie turned this into a more code.

1991
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:19,000
Speaker 1: We break the law. We're touching our fingertipty and making

1992
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:22,680
Speaker 1: the record dirty. We're putting stress on the platter. This

1993
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:26,640
Speaker 1: is breaking the law. And it took me almost three

1994
02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 1: years to break the law.

1995
02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:32,959
Speaker 25: And when I did this, when all rappers in front.

1996
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:36,920
Speaker 1: Of me, he's in good hands telling his story. And

1997
02:14:37,080 --> 02:14:39,800
Speaker 1: this is when the rappers who were I mean the

1998
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 1: producers who were DJs. They knew how to take a

1999
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 1: seamless loop and put it into a machine and then

2000
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 1: produce the shit out of the fucking beat. So when

2001
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:52,360
Speaker 1: people like Nori walk in and says wraps and get out,

2002
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 1: he's in good hands. Producer gonna gonna complete the mix.

2003
02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 1: You know how a recording console. It's like fifty two

2004
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,760
Speaker 1: fadus a lot of work to put a record together.

2005
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:04,040
Speaker 1: This is the type of ship that I'm talking about,

2006
02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:11,680
Speaker 1: nor that needs to be talked about. Throw him in jail.

2007
02:15:12,040 --> 02:15:13,600
Speaker 1: You're breaking along a long time.

2008
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 6: What about forty.

2009
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:31,800
Speaker 1: Material material quake time? Break him in.

2010
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:44,480
Speaker 5: No, I wait for he to come back for that one. Damn,

2011
02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:46,720
Speaker 5: I ain't never better.

2012
02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:52,160
Speaker 2: Okay, we didn't actually we talked about Rick James. We

2013
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:55,160
Speaker 2: didn't understand. We didn't talk about the meaning of that record.

2014
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:59,520
Speaker 2: Which one p I m P the s I m

2015
02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:03,880
Speaker 2: P SIMP that's mel did that record with him? I

2016
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 2: didn't even know about the record. Simp the pimp something

2017
02:16:06,200 --> 02:16:08,400
Speaker 2: like that, Yeah, pimp the sim.

2018
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:10,920
Speaker 1: You know it is. And this is the ship that

2019
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 1: got Sylvia so pissed off because Sylvia Robbinson, what cause

2020
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:23,360
Speaker 1: sugar Hill Motown called sugar Hill for Mail to guest

2021
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:28,680
Speaker 1: star on a Rick James record. So, but Rick James

2022
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:31,840
Speaker 1: knew who I was, he knew the group, and he

2023
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:35,000
Speaker 1: knew that Grand Master Flash with the trademark, with the

2024
02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:36,039
Speaker 1: mark that was going to.

2025
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:36,640
Speaker 7: Sell the record.

2026
02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:41,760
Speaker 1: So when he didn't put Melody mail, that made sugar

2027
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:43,960
Speaker 1: Hill Records very angry. But that was a mail and

2028
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:49,480
Speaker 1: that was a deal. Long after I left right, was

2029
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 1: doing a few things that nothing happened. Let's put it

2030
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:54,280
Speaker 1: that way, Okay, okay, But if I had it to

2031
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:57,000
Speaker 1: do over again, I do just exact same way, man,

2032
02:16:57,040 --> 02:16:58,760
Speaker 1: because I love what I do, all right?

2033
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:04,480
Speaker 5: And then talk about get down the was that on Netflix?

2034
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:06,520
Speaker 1: Is that based on you?

2035
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:07,160
Speaker 28: No?

2036
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:11,960
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing about Boss Lehmann. Bos Lehman would

2037
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:14,720
Speaker 1: take this big can and he would make this ship

2038
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:18,880
Speaker 1: look like the most incredible ship ever. And this is

2039
02:17:18,959 --> 02:17:23,600
Speaker 1: why I love Boss learning so much because nobody else

2040
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 1: other than the people who made Wild Style gave a

2041
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:30,560
Speaker 1: fuck about wanting to come into the Bronx and film it.

2042
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:36,000
Speaker 1: So when I met him, he wanted me to just

2043
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 1: be to help him with uh how the clothing was

2044
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:44,440
Speaker 1: back then and kind of like a you know, a

2045
02:17:44,720 --> 02:17:50,240
Speaker 1: small role. But then what was happening was as he

2046
02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 1: was filming, getting putting it together, and he would ask

2047
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:55,440
Speaker 1: me to come down to say, what do you think

2048
02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 1: about this scene? I say, that was the wrong area

2049
02:17:57,680 --> 02:18:01,240
Speaker 1: of the Bronx, Like he was spending you know a

2050
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 1: lot of money on the wrong area shooting. And so

2051
02:18:07,600 --> 02:18:10,360
Speaker 1: then he asked me to be a producer with him,

2052
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,040
Speaker 1: and then he asked me to stay home for my toys.

2053
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:14,160
Speaker 7: I said, well, if you can master.

2054
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:15,680
Speaker 1: Money that I make on my toys and I'll stay

2055
02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:20,040
Speaker 1: home and he did. Wow. So from there then one day,

2056
02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, shooting, he says, man, I need to put

2057
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:24,600
Speaker 1: you in this.

2058
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:27,520
Speaker 7: I need to get to find somebody to play you

2059
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 7: in this.

2060
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, let's get the fuck out of here,

2061
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:32,800
Speaker 1: so I'll get down to get down, you know, he

2062
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:33,360
Speaker 1: tells you this.

2063
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:35,000
Speaker 7: You know, I'm going to my area to work.

2064
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:37,119
Speaker 1: He's going to this area to work, like passing each

2065
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:41,280
Speaker 1: other in the hallway, like I'm like, yeah, whatever. About

2066
02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:44,920
Speaker 1: three weeks later, I come to work. He asked me

2067
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:45,840
Speaker 1: to come in this office.

2068
02:18:46,920 --> 02:18:47,040
Speaker 8: Yo.

2069
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:51,160
Speaker 1: He and I walk in the office and I'm like,

2070
02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:58,440
Speaker 1: who's your mother? Just like me, Oh shoo, who's your mother?

2071
02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:02,560
Speaker 1: Wait about hold on, yeah, except who's your mother?

2072
02:19:03,520 --> 02:19:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2073
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,680
Speaker 1: Who's who's your How you walking in the office? Who's

2074
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:07,240
Speaker 1: your mother? No?

2075
02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:07,400
Speaker 11: No?

2076
02:19:07,520 --> 02:19:09,480
Speaker 1: Walk in. I looked at him and I said, because

2077
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 1: I was like, what's your mother's name? Because he looked

2078
02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 1: just like me. And sometimes we do things.

2079
02:19:16,879 --> 02:19:18,080
Speaker 7: You know, and we don't know.

2080
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:23,240
Speaker 1: On the hunt. No, I thought that he was my son,

2081
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:32,800
Speaker 1: I know, not.

2082
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:36,640
Speaker 5: You know so to smart.

2083
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:42,120
Speaker 1: So bos Bo's got his bozs. You know. He said

2084
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:43,960
Speaker 1: that she to be in pastor in the hallways. So

2085
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't take that shit serious. And then he says,

2086
02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:48,320
Speaker 1: your class coming to AUSO, come in to office. I

2087
02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:52,960
Speaker 1: want you to meet somebody I'm walking here. He looks

2088
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:57,080
Speaker 1: at me. I look at him. I asked him, what's

2089
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:01,880
Speaker 1: his mother's name? I respectfully, because I mean, I'll say

2090
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:05,360
Speaker 1: I had fun on the road and I did some things,

2091
02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, and people.

2092
02:20:07,560 --> 02:20:10,800
Speaker 2: That is knw listening to this. He is saying he

2093
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:12,200
Speaker 2: was the original snipe flo.

2094
02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, why over there? Take down? So I

2095
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 1: asked him and then I found out, you know who

2096
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:32,640
Speaker 1: was you know? He told me, told me his background,

2097
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:36,039
Speaker 1: his family background. I was like, okay, let's go to work.

2098
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:36,720
Speaker 7: Let me teach you.

2099
02:20:36,879 --> 02:20:40,240
Speaker 1: So I taught him somewhat of the basics. I didn't

2100
02:20:40,240 --> 02:20:42,000
Speaker 1: want I didn't want to play the role. He needed

2101
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:44,400
Speaker 1: somebody younger to play a young flash. So he had

2102
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:46,120
Speaker 1: to scour the world in front of somebody, and he

2103
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:51,840
Speaker 1: found he found his dude. That ship I'm Michael. That

2104
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:55,240
Speaker 1: made me think, on planet Earth, we all have a duplicate.

2105
02:20:55,480 --> 02:20:59,280
Speaker 1: The double Ganger is that what they called it.

2106
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:02,760
Speaker 3: That's legitimate, what they called a double ganger. Everybody has

2107
02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:04,880
Speaker 3: an exact twins somewhere in the world.

2108
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:05,920
Speaker 1: Double ganger.

2109
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:11,840
Speaker 2: Oh ship, I think right, like, Oh, that's bigley up.

2110
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:16,000
Speaker 7: Were especially do before good Kid Man.

2111
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:17,640
Speaker 1: Good Kid took me a by the month to teach

2112
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:19,440
Speaker 1: him how to just do the basics, you know, so

2113
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:21,200
Speaker 1: that you can form on the get down.

2114
02:21:21,240 --> 02:21:22,040
Speaker 7: So let me tell you something.

2115
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:28,279
Speaker 1: That was not a realization of the hood in the Bronx.

2116
02:21:28,400 --> 02:21:31,880
Speaker 1: But that wasn't the intention, right, The intention was to

2117
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 1: take elements and then glorify it with his story. And

2118
02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:42,200
Speaker 1: the one good thing about that that ship gave attention

2119
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:45,920
Speaker 1: to the Bronx. It gave it. Even motherfuckers saying that

2120
02:21:45,959 --> 02:21:47,320
Speaker 1: fucking ship was whack. It wasn't real.

2121
02:21:47,360 --> 02:21:50,440
Speaker 7: It was whatever gave attention to the Bronx.

2122
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:52,840
Speaker 2: Was you an executive produco in that series?

2123
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:55,040
Speaker 1: I was a producer. I was a producer. Curves Blow

2124
02:21:55,160 --> 02:21:56,560
Speaker 1: was the producer. It was a few, but I was

2125
02:21:56,640 --> 02:22:00,760
Speaker 1: producers all. It was the greatest experienced to be able

2126
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:05,199
Speaker 1: to just see how a soundtrack is written, and seeing

2127
02:22:05,200 --> 02:22:07,840
Speaker 1: the motherfuckers with the strings and the whole ship, and

2128
02:22:07,959 --> 02:22:09,720
Speaker 1: to see how a movie is made, like to be

2129
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:12,879
Speaker 1: in the back room and see how it's constructed.

2130
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:14,519
Speaker 7: Fucking amazing.

2131
02:22:14,920 --> 02:22:15,120
Speaker 3: It was.

2132
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:17,280
Speaker 1: It filmed in the Bronx. It was filmed in the

2133
02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:22,640
Speaker 1: Bronx and it was filmed and then Boz rented the

2134
02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:25,160
Speaker 1: area in Queens and this must have been the size

2135
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:29,320
Speaker 1: of ten fucking walmarts and they replicated a bedroom in

2136
02:22:29,400 --> 02:22:32,160
Speaker 1: the seventies, they replicated and this is where he asked

2137
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:34,000
Speaker 1: me to go to the clothing department to make sure

2138
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:36,680
Speaker 1: that white clothing at the time, you know what I'm saying.

2139
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:37,959
Speaker 5: Silver Cup Studios and Queens.

2140
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:39,800
Speaker 15: Oh was it.

2141
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:43,640
Speaker 1: As soon as you get the bridge. Yeah, this ship

2142
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:45,640
Speaker 1: was like this ship was like a whole city block

2143
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:51,080
Speaker 1: and each room had a replication of like the kitchen,

2144
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,560
Speaker 1: a bedroom, you know, clothing and the whole shit. And

2145
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:56,240
Speaker 1: he asked me to just kind of oversee a lot

2146
02:22:56,320 --> 02:22:58,439
Speaker 1: of this and then from there he did this glorifying

2147
02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 1: thing that he does, but it wasn't real, but he

2148
02:23:02,120 --> 02:23:03,800
Speaker 1: damned Sho'll put brocks on a map on it with

2149
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:05,800
Speaker 1: that shit there for real?

2150
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 2: Thinking for that now, on that soundtrack, you got Teddy

2151
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:10,520
Speaker 2: Penneygraft on that soundtrack.

2152
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you work with Teddy Penny.

2153
02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:14,440
Speaker 7: Gra No, I actually did the remix on it.

2154
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:15,600
Speaker 5: Oh, that's the remix.

2155
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:20,120
Speaker 1: So what happened was they needed certain records in the

2156
02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:27,480
Speaker 1: show with less talking, so he I guess he cut

2157
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:30,080
Speaker 1: a deal with Sony, and Sony allowed me to go

2158
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:36,320
Speaker 1: into the vaults and see the masters, and I was

2159
02:23:36,400 --> 02:23:40,720
Speaker 1: able to take masters like I wish I could go

2160
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:43,440
Speaker 1: back in there now, Like you know, you and I

2161
02:23:43,640 --> 02:23:46,240
Speaker 1: we we look for that shit forever and ever. But

2162
02:23:46,280 --> 02:23:48,520
Speaker 1: imagine going in there and seeing motherfuckers with really white

2163
02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:51,280
Speaker 1: coats on. You got to put gloves on because his

2164
02:23:51,480 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 1: masters are so old that they could break, you know

2165
02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:56,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm looking at like Miles Davis. I'm

2166
02:23:56,280 --> 02:23:59,520
Speaker 1: looking at like fucking Cheryl Lane. I'm looking at I'm like,

2167
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:01,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm looking at the mass that made

2168
02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:04,760
Speaker 1: these songs that I cut up and do what I do.

2169
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the fucking original mask and it was

2170
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:11,000
Speaker 1: tons of them, and they just said go around and

2171
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:12,320
Speaker 1: just pick what you wanted.

2172
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:15,400
Speaker 6: Wow, And they're gonna let you open it.

2173
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:18,800
Speaker 7: Up and you know what you want. And they baked.

2174
02:24:18,879 --> 02:24:21,320
Speaker 1: They baked the poppy dams.

2175
02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:23,480
Speaker 7: You can't stay. I need a baseline from No no, no.

2176
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:23,800
Speaker 6: No, the.

2177
02:24:27,160 --> 02:24:30,920
Speaker 1: Studio they let me do it. They cook the stems

2178
02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 1: back because they don't want us, they don't want us

2179
02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:33,640
Speaker 1: to have that.

2180
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:34,800
Speaker 6: That's a museum.

2181
02:24:35,360 --> 02:24:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that's pretty much that.

2182
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:38,240
Speaker 6: Man.

2183
02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:44,039
Speaker 1: You ever met Prince of Michael. I met Prince when

2184
02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:47,320
Speaker 1: I was when I did the Chris Rockshaw was his

2185
02:24:47,480 --> 02:24:51,640
Speaker 1: music director, and to sit down with him and just

2186
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:57,760
Speaker 1: talk to him about life, very low speaking, very calm,

2187
02:24:57,959 --> 02:25:03,280
Speaker 1: very intelligent. That ship blew my motherfucking mind. Man, to

2188
02:25:03,320 --> 02:25:07,280
Speaker 1: see that ship, man, Prince, Prince else I never got

2189
02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:10,760
Speaker 1: yet because she's she's really a little guy, little guy,

2190
02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:15,520
Speaker 1: you know. So it was wearing heels though, man, whatever

2191
02:25:15,560 --> 02:25:15,840
Speaker 1: it was.

2192
02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:17,000
Speaker 7: He was a great fucking artist.

2193
02:25:18,400 --> 02:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so doing that. Doing that, you know,

2194
02:25:21,959 --> 02:25:23,680
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet you know, that's probably

2195
02:25:23,720 --> 02:25:25,879
Speaker 1: when I first the first chance I got to sit

2196
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:28,680
Speaker 1: and talk with jay Z because he came on the show. Wow,

2197
02:25:28,840 --> 02:25:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, so I had it was quite a moving

2198
02:25:31,879 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 1: experience to learn TV. So I've been behind movies and

2199
02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:37,360
Speaker 1: I've been behind TV shows and I remember when the

2200
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:39,680
Speaker 1: Chris rock Show was on. She was supposed to be

2201
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:43,280
Speaker 1: just a pilost, but the ship went five years wow,

2202
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,120
Speaker 1: and then year five we both said let's let's let's

2203
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:48,039
Speaker 1: jump off on the ship is doing hot, because sometimes

2204
02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:50,720
Speaker 1: you could do a sequel sequel, sequel, sequel and she

2205
02:25:50,959 --> 02:25:52,920
Speaker 1: just get whack after a while. So he jumped off

2206
02:25:52,959 --> 02:25:53,160
Speaker 1: when the.

2207
02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:53,680
Speaker 7: Ship was hot.

2208
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:54,440
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.

2209
02:25:54,920 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 2: Let's talk about B Street, the street That wasn't me,

2210
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:01,760
Speaker 2: that was Mail twelve and single Vital get the fun.

2211
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Damn you got your name on everything. It was all over, Norrie.

2212
02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:12,280
Speaker 1: The business did what the business did. I'm much smarter

2213
02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:18,360
Speaker 1: than now, a much moreder now. So limitally are you

2214
02:26:18,440 --> 02:26:20,040
Speaker 1: teople who's tuning in right?

2215
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,880
Speaker 2: When you google this? When you google this actually comes

2216
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:26,520
Speaker 2: up right, all of these these words with your name

2217
02:26:26,560 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 2: attacks you're saying for people who don't know that most

2218
02:26:31,560 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 2: of this this was the record label because your name

2219
02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:35,600
Speaker 2: was hotter at the time, or was that name?

2220
02:26:35,800 --> 02:26:36,840
Speaker 5: Grand Master Flash and.

2221
02:26:36,879 --> 02:26:40,320
Speaker 2: The Furious Five together simultaneously.

2222
02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:43,320
Speaker 1: It's that humantained clan. Okay, it's like this here, grand

2223
02:26:43,400 --> 02:26:48,880
Speaker 1: Master Flash and the Furious Five. It's six people. Grand

2224
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:53,840
Speaker 1: Master Flash was hot from the streets, made hot by

2225
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 1: the record label. And there was a time when I

2226
02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:03,280
Speaker 1: had to go in to court to fight for my

2227
02:27:03,440 --> 02:27:06,440
Speaker 1: name because it was getting a little bit out of hand.

2228
02:27:08,400 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I think at that particular time, I lost everything. But

2229
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:19,600
Speaker 1: when the day came when the judge says that this

2230
02:27:19,800 --> 02:27:24,880
Speaker 1: marriage has to be ended, and Joseph Sadness awarded his name,

2231
02:27:26,400 --> 02:27:28,920
Speaker 1: this is the court's downtown with the White Steps. Who

2232
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:31,720
Speaker 1: was fighting for your name? The label, the label was

2233
02:27:31,720 --> 02:27:36,960
Speaker 1: trying to keep it. So when the judge awarded Sugar Hills.

2234
02:27:37,760 --> 02:27:41,360
Speaker 1: So when when when when the judge awarded me my name?

2235
02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:44,039
Speaker 7: I ran out the.

2236
02:27:46,760 --> 02:27:50,119
Speaker 1: The judge said it in judge terms, and my lawyer

2237
02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:53,800
Speaker 1: is looking at me, like, what's.

2238
02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:52,880
Speaker 7: The matter with you?

2239
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:56,160
Speaker 1: You just got your name back. I ran out of

2240
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:59,640
Speaker 1: that courtroom. And the way the courtrooms are is like

2241
02:27:59,680 --> 02:28:03,000
Speaker 1: the White Steps. I felt that all my knees and

2242
02:28:03,040 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I thank God, and I was crying like a baby

2243
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:08,800
Speaker 1: because all I wanted was my name back. Whatever you

2244
02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:13,359
Speaker 1: took for me financially, okay, fine, please take that. Because

2245
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I think at that particular time, I had done enough

2246
02:28:17,480 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 1: imprint in the business and our little business of hip

2247
02:28:20,640 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 1: hop that the world would take me in.

2248
02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:26,200
Speaker 7: And they did.

2249
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:28,400
Speaker 1: So that's when I started all over again. I started

2250
02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:31,520
Speaker 1: in clubs and I started playing alone. And I took

2251
02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:36,000
Speaker 1: the theory to the next level, and eighteen years later,

2252
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 1: here we are. So it was rough, but you know,

2253
02:28:42,600 --> 02:28:46,920
Speaker 1: there's faith and his belief, and I'm very spiritual. I'm

2254
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:49,600
Speaker 1: big on gods. You know a lot of things that

2255
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:49,920
Speaker 1: I do.

2256
02:28:53,600 --> 02:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Guess now, what was your name before before DJ Flash?

2257
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:02,880
Speaker 2: Just know you said, but your boy didn't do that

2258
02:29:03,320 --> 02:29:06,760
Speaker 2: because you was fast, run fast? So what do you

2259
02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:07,680
Speaker 2: have a name before that?

2260
02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:07,880
Speaker 11: No?

2261
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:11,800
Speaker 2: No, no, Mines was empty Yahoo with the ball to being.

2262
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I had a funcked up name. You ain't have you

2263
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:17,959
Speaker 2: just a flash name. He's always had a fly Repeat

2264
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:20,440
Speaker 2: that again? Is the name empty Yahoo with the ball

2265
02:29:20,520 --> 02:29:20,800
Speaker 2: to Bean.

2266
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:23,480
Speaker 1: You didn't come out with the record with that name.

2267
02:29:27,720 --> 02:29:31,840
Speaker 1: That's big, That's what you always came up with.

2268
02:29:31,879 --> 02:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Flash. You always had a full flash.

2269
02:29:33,480 --> 02:29:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the Grand Master was put in front of it,

2270
02:29:35,920 --> 02:29:36,080
Speaker 1: you know.

2271
02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:38,480
Speaker 7: But other than that, no, I wasn't. I wasn't nothing else.

2272
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:41,760
Speaker 1: Right, So we got a quick time.

2273
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could do a quick time. But Scram is

2274
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:46,120
Speaker 2: gonna be the designated drinker because you're not drinking.

2275
02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:47,720
Speaker 6: I'm not drinking drinking.

2276
02:29:47,959 --> 02:29:56,080
Speaker 1: No designated drinking. Come on, no reason, I'm fast.

2277
02:29:56,480 --> 02:30:00,120
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, Scram gotta take shots. Man, Yeah, come well,

2278
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:01,800
Speaker 2: you gotta do it in the name a motherfucker.

2279
02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:03,680
Speaker 6: I got three questions.

2280
02:30:04,879 --> 02:30:07,959
Speaker 2: At the quick time, quick time, quick time, the quick

2281
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:08,959
Speaker 2: time stop quick.

2282
02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:10,240
Speaker 1: He wants you to drink it.

2283
02:30:10,280 --> 02:30:11,880
Speaker 6: It means you have to answer everything because if you

2284
02:30:11,879 --> 02:30:13,000
Speaker 6: do know, answer and I gotta take a shot.

2285
02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:17,240
Speaker 1: You got slain them rules, Oh shipla, the rules. Explain them.

2286
02:30:17,240 --> 02:30:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you one one thing or the other.

2287
02:30:19,800 --> 02:30:21,360
Speaker 6: Some some controversy questions.

2288
02:30:21,360 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 7: That's one thing.

2289
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:24,959
Speaker 1: Get it more complicated, bro, It's just it's just we're

2290
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna give you.

2291
02:30:25,640 --> 02:30:29,960
Speaker 3: Two two names, two things. You pick one nobody drinks.

2292
02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:33,840
Speaker 3: If you say both or neither of them, then we

2293
02:30:33,959 --> 02:30:35,320
Speaker 3: all drinking. You're not drinking.

2294
02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:40,680
Speaker 6: You'll see. It's so easy. But but just answer everything.

2295
02:30:41,879 --> 02:30:46,200
Speaker 3: Multiple choice, Get to pick one nobody drinks, you say

2296
02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:47,800
Speaker 3: both and neither were drinking.

2297
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:52,879
Speaker 1: We're drinking with you. We're drinking with you. Ready here, scram, scram,

2298
02:30:53,400 --> 02:30:56,600
Speaker 1: just one shot glass? Come on, you can just be easy.

2299
02:30:57,879 --> 02:31:03,080
Speaker 2: I he's gouts right, it's not me. Okay, ready for

2300
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:07,640
Speaker 2: you guys, have a sign? Sign Yeah what you drinking?

2301
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:13,520
Speaker 1: What's drinking over there? I'm not the drink. Tell you

2302
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:14,000
Speaker 1: I want you.

2303
02:31:14,080 --> 02:31:14,880
Speaker 2: You said you ain't drinking.

2304
02:31:14,959 --> 02:31:16,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say.

2305
02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:24,320
Speaker 5: No way, all right, Melly Mail or or keep Cowboy.

2306
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh, this is what I'm saying, load up, scram drink.

2307
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:34,000
Speaker 3: And this is is actually a positive thing we trying

2308
02:31:34,040 --> 02:31:35,440
Speaker 3: to bring. We want to talk about these people in

2309
02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:37,000
Speaker 3: a positive way. You can pick up. It's not that

2310
02:31:37,040 --> 02:31:38,080
Speaker 3: you're just say one.

2311
02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Or the other.

2312
02:31:38,680 --> 02:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're scram drink.

2313
02:31:42,840 --> 02:31:59,000
Speaker 18: Melly mill or keep Cowboy? Yeah Mail, Okay, you got it? Yep,

2314
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:02,840
Speaker 18: cool Hirk or Bambara?

2315
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, just either or either, but you could say

2316
02:32:25,320 --> 02:32:28,240
Speaker 2: both are neither both if you say both scrammed drinks.

2317
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

2318
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:34,760
Speaker 7: Oh I get it now.

2319
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah.

2320
02:32:38,120 --> 02:32:41,360
Speaker 2: Look yeah, it's like we ain't we ain't going crazy.

2321
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:43,720
Speaker 2: I got one hold hold on, let me, let me

2322
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:44,880
Speaker 2: get me get I'm outing.

2323
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, the b Boys or the mcs.

2324
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:58,200
Speaker 4: Oh man, scram o w you love you man, you

2325
02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:02,480
Speaker 4: can't leave do it this man, just both goad go

2326
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:03,680
Speaker 4: square scare.

2327
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:08,320
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, scramm sorry man.

2328
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Who Dani or run DMC?

2329
02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:15,240
Speaker 7: You don't set me up?

2330
02:33:16,840 --> 02:33:19,760
Speaker 6: Oh my god, man, mascot this ship.

2331
02:33:19,800 --> 02:33:22,280
Speaker 2: But these guys come up in this. Get these speak English,

2332
02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:26,080
Speaker 2: Run run DMC, run DMC. That's cool, all right, you

2333
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:31,320
Speaker 2: got it. The Beastie boys or fat boys, Oh, the

2334
02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 2: beef Boys, red Alert or DJ breakout.

2335
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh ship, I'm sorry man, Both go ahead, square square

2336
02:33:43,400 --> 02:33:44,080
Speaker 1: at the boil bro.

2337
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:47,439
Speaker 6: I don't got no line. I've got no chasing.

2338
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Nice champs. Biggie, you want some water to go with?

2339
02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Biggie or Big Al? What is this water? Yes? Water,

2340
02:33:59,080 --> 02:33:59,880
Speaker 1: so if you want to chase it?

2341
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:00,560
Speaker 7: Both the ones?

2342
02:34:03,400 --> 02:34:04,160
Speaker 6: Well you said big.

2343
02:34:04,520 --> 02:34:10,440
Speaker 5: Big yet big gl Big Al, Curtis blow or slick Rick.

2344
02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:15,720
Speaker 1: Both go ahead, grabbed tiggity you're supposed to be doing.

2345
02:34:15,800 --> 02:34:18,280
Speaker 1: Let me ask you eventually, I'm drinking alcohol.

2346
02:34:18,879 --> 02:34:21,320
Speaker 2: You would have guessed. You'd have guessed we got a

2347
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:23,440
Speaker 2: kter Go ahead, I guess and.

2348
02:34:25,959 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 3: That's right.

2349
02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:31,120
Speaker 2: That's right, Come on, get that. That's top alcohol going.

2350
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, only because this is an honor to

2351
02:34:35,000 --> 02:34:38,720
Speaker 1: be drinking. Thank you, Thank you. Crush Groove or b

2352
02:34:38,920 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 1: Street crush groove. Damn the next one I know we drinking.

2353
02:34:43,959 --> 02:34:44,840
Speaker 1: You would have went be Street.

2354
02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see Primo or Pete Rock both. I'm

2355
02:34:50,080 --> 02:34:54,600
Speaker 2: a don't leave the witness things out there. Man, I

2356
02:34:55,280 --> 02:34:59,800
Speaker 2: knew he was gonna say both. Yeah, both, I'm skipping

2357
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:02,560
Speaker 2: in George Clinton or Rick James.

2358
02:35:03,640 --> 02:35:05,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what you gotta you gotta say.

2359
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:06,480
Speaker 2: You gotta say that, I gotta say that.

2360
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:09,040
Speaker 1: You gotta say that both both again.

2361
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:12,760
Speaker 7: Sorry, I'm sorry, man, I owe you. I'm sorry.

2362
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Curtis Mayfield kind of with James Brown.

2363
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:20,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just pick pick a better one, a

2364
02:35:20,959 --> 02:35:26,440
Speaker 1: better second to breathe. Yeah, you gotta say both.

2365
02:35:26,840 --> 02:35:27,920
Speaker 7: I have to say both.

2366
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:29,440
Speaker 1: You have to say both.

2367
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead. Shot, that's okay, it's tiny shot,

2368
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:35,080
Speaker 2: and you're spending tonight.

2369
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Right Hey, yeah, I tell you man, I'm high and

2370
02:35:40,040 --> 02:35:44,480
Speaker 1: don't want to we yes, I'm fucked up right now.

2371
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:49,080
Speaker 2: This is a chance for we see other shows taking

2372
02:35:49,200 --> 02:35:49,760
Speaker 2: this question.

2373
02:35:50,480 --> 02:35:54,600
Speaker 1: We don't show us up. A lot of shows, see

2374
02:35:54,600 --> 02:35:55,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time.

2375
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:55,400
Speaker 27: Man.

2376
02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:57,720
Speaker 1: But it's all love.

2377
02:35:57,800 --> 02:36:01,760
Speaker 2: It's all just all love of my favorite fan goodies,

2378
02:36:03,560 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 2: d m X or Tupac.

2379
02:36:09,040 --> 02:36:09,640
Speaker 6: Great questions.

2380
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:13,959
Speaker 1: M hm hm.

2381
02:36:16,400 --> 02:36:21,480
Speaker 7: Both Yeah, hey man, go ahead. I'm sorry.

2382
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:22,960
Speaker 1: He wants you to have fun. I'm a d J

2383
02:36:23,080 --> 02:36:26,240
Speaker 1: to tonight, but I don't worry about it. I didn't

2384
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:34,199
Speaker 1: learn I'm here with bad luck. It's not with somebody ahead.

2385
02:36:34,640 --> 02:36:41,840
Speaker 29: I'm drinking with you, Okay, Benz Markey or O D B. Yeah,

2386
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:47,400
Speaker 29: if I thought to where you're at, chiz mark.

2387
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:53,240
Speaker 1: Next one's good analog or digital?

2388
02:36:57,680 --> 02:36:59,960
Speaker 7: H I gotta go in my world?

2389
02:37:00,080 --> 02:37:03,760
Speaker 1: Man, what's the analog? Don't need to witness my bad,

2390
02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:06,480
Speaker 1: my bad judge. Yeah, bro, no, I did it a

2391
02:37:06,520 --> 02:37:09,000
Speaker 1: couple of times. Already a man along for sure. Yeah.

2392
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:10,440
Speaker 1: So we're taking a shot.

2393
02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:19,720
Speaker 2: Get Scram Jones or Scram Jones, all three scam drones.

2394
02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 1: Take a drink. Take a shot for yourself. Oh okay,

2395
02:37:30,280 --> 02:37:33,440
Speaker 1: look at it. L L cool j or Big Daddy.

2396
02:37:33,480 --> 02:37:36,080
Speaker 2: K Now, this is offensive because I'm thinking they saying

2397
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:37,520
Speaker 2: light skin against brown skin.

2398
02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this what they're going.

2399
02:37:40,360 --> 02:37:42,000
Speaker 5: They both they both look their lives a lot.

2400
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:45,879
Speaker 1: Hey yeah, both of them, both of them. Let's go.

2401
02:37:51,800 --> 02:37:55,560
Speaker 7: Ok this is this is lethal. This is lethal.

2402
02:37:56,000 --> 02:37:58,920
Speaker 5: Grab Master cast or Cool Mode.

2403
02:38:00,080 --> 02:38:01,840
Speaker 7: Coumo d m hm.

2404
02:38:02,520 --> 02:38:03,879
Speaker 5: Sounds like you still got a little smoke.

2405
02:38:04,120 --> 02:38:13,720
Speaker 7: I love him. Okay, you got it.

2406
02:38:14,200 --> 02:38:22,240
Speaker 28: Molly mak you put your head back with Molly ma

2407
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:25,480
Speaker 28: or Diamond d oh ship.

2408
02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:31,519
Speaker 7: Both sorry, both both put them are incredible.

2409
02:38:35,879 --> 02:38:43,520
Speaker 2: Walk wol or dr period walk, Wow, DJ Clue or

2410
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:44,640
Speaker 2: funk Master flex.

2411
02:38:46,840 --> 02:38:51,600
Speaker 6: God, you get political, then I can get the car down.

2412
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:56,000
Speaker 7: Right, say it again.

2413
02:38:58,160 --> 02:38:59,360
Speaker 1: You can also say neither.

2414
02:38:59,720 --> 02:39:02,080
Speaker 2: That's so you can say you can say or both,

2415
02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:05,920
Speaker 2: or you can say or flex, d J Clue or

2416
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:06,879
Speaker 2: Master Flex.

2417
02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:10,520
Speaker 5: He's like the last of the masters, right, funk Master.

2418
02:39:12,200 --> 02:39:17,800
Speaker 1: Both both? Okay, Then I got the Then I get

2419
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:21,440
Speaker 1: the shot. Hey man, I'm drinking out of my cup.

2420
02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:28,959
Speaker 1: Now I'm switching in. I'm just look, I'm just that's

2421
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:29,440
Speaker 1: a good one.

2422
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:43,920
Speaker 2: Crazy rock him okay, verst one, Oh boy, both both, Marvin.

2423
02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Gay Movie Roberson scream Marvin who I smell it? Wow,

2424
02:39:52,879 --> 02:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I feel for you, Dog, I feel

2425
02:39:55,360 --> 02:39:55,440
Speaker 1: for you.

2426
02:39:55,879 --> 02:39:59,520
Speaker 5: Kanye West or Pharrell Williams both.

2427
02:40:03,520 --> 02:40:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you up there as soon as you

2428
02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:06,840
Speaker 1: know supposed to be done.

2429
02:40:06,720 --> 02:40:12,039
Speaker 5: Here, Goad got yeah, yeah, alright, man, you.

2430
02:40:13,400 --> 02:40:16,039
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or Prince both.

2431
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:22,720
Speaker 2: Double fisted, bro, No worry, man, I'm respecting from a

2432
02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:25,560
Speaker 2: flash two sober to to not sober. No, that's not

2433
02:40:25,640 --> 02:40:27,640
Speaker 2: the way this works. Come, you gotta follow the rules.

2434
02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:36,920
Speaker 2: He's saying, he's grand Mescenory right now. Your TV raps

2435
02:40:36,959 --> 02:40:37,840
Speaker 2: or video music box.

2436
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:40,280
Speaker 6: Don't bring me no more. I'm getting your music box.

2437
02:40:40,600 --> 02:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Ralph McDaniel's we let you having you, We need you

2438
02:40:43,120 --> 02:40:43,440
Speaker 2: all here.

2439
02:40:44,280 --> 02:40:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it's a good question.

2440
02:40:48,240 --> 02:41:05,920
Speaker 2: Stevie wonder away, Charles Stream Yes, scramming man both both. Yeah, yeah,

2441
02:41:06,040 --> 02:41:07,000
Speaker 2: I see that coming.

2442
02:41:07,520 --> 02:41:12,280
Speaker 1: Oh you see that? He said you you in the

2443
02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:15,920
Speaker 1: djus killed that? What about you kills that shot with me?

2444
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:18,440
Speaker 1: Fand oh god, I can't do that, man, I'll sleep

2445
02:41:18,480 --> 02:41:19,920
Speaker 1: for a week. Are you ready?

2446
02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:20,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm.

2447
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Ready to take your shot.

2448
02:41:24,440 --> 02:41:24,640
Speaker 1: Take it.

2449
02:41:24,680 --> 02:41:26,000
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of shots you ain't taken.

2450
02:41:26,360 --> 02:41:26,760
Speaker 6: Look at that.

2451
02:41:27,080 --> 02:41:29,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but look at if you're twenty five. Come on, bro,

2452
02:41:30,120 --> 02:41:32,039
Speaker 1: come on right now.

2453
02:41:32,200 --> 02:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Come on at least come on, come on, I'm on

2454
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:37,039
Speaker 2: to the next one. You got to take at least

2455
02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:39,400
Speaker 2: two of those. Come on, bro, you're embarrassing us. Jamie

2456
02:41:39,440 --> 02:41:40,920
Speaker 2: sitting over here, You're not even come on.

2457
02:41:41,240 --> 02:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Jamie's like He's like, She's like, this is the work shot? Yes, ever,

2458
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:52,119
Speaker 1: come on? Come on? Yeh we hard But where's my toast?

2459
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:52,960
Speaker 11: You brother?

2460
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:56,480
Speaker 1: You the heat man and the DJ yea, what do

2461
02:41:56,520 --> 02:41:56,800
Speaker 1: you say?

2462
02:41:56,879 --> 02:41:57,320
Speaker 11: Take the shot?

2463
02:41:57,959 --> 02:42:00,480
Speaker 1: You want to take the shots? Sheep, don't put me

2464
02:42:00,520 --> 02:42:06,080
Speaker 1: on the man. You want shot and you want shot.

2465
02:42:06,720 --> 02:42:07,520
Speaker 1: It's okay, you can't.

2466
02:42:09,120 --> 02:42:09,680
Speaker 7: Shot from.

2467
02:42:15,040 --> 02:42:18,040
Speaker 1: You ready about the quiller, he's livery suckers. So we

2468
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:23,480
Speaker 1: could be here today, Tequila? What you not me? Bro?

2469
02:42:24,400 --> 02:42:29,040
Speaker 2: Your dreams Lieu Richie or Teddy puttograph it's horrible ass.

2470
02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:32,360
Speaker 7: That's a They both was dope right.

2471
02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:37,680
Speaker 6: Yo, this segment is open.

2472
02:42:38,800 --> 02:42:43,959
Speaker 3: We were almost over thirty more say Teddy Teddy.

2473
02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:48,160
Speaker 5: Okay gang star or E P M. D Oh.

2474
02:42:49,959 --> 02:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Come on, scram ticket.

2475
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:52,760
Speaker 1: We're not gonna give you new shots and please take it.

2476
02:42:52,879 --> 02:42:55,640
Speaker 2: Take you're five older children.

2477
02:42:55,360 --> 02:42:56,959
Speaker 6: Speeding though you speaking.

2478
02:42:57,280 --> 02:43:00,760
Speaker 5: Chill out, chill out, You're never gonna be invited back.

2479
02:43:04,040 --> 02:43:07,160
Speaker 1: I called you personally. Can you come out here I'm

2480
02:43:07,240 --> 02:43:09,520
Speaker 1: doing I'm not gonna be good, you know, come on,

2481
02:43:10,440 --> 02:43:14,040
Speaker 1: come on. They're good people. They're good people.

2482
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:16,160
Speaker 2: The good people ain't gonna let you shoo off front

2483
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:16,800
Speaker 2: of your airline.

2484
02:43:17,200 --> 02:43:22,080
Speaker 1: They're good people. Taking a goddamn cherry. Come on, just

2485
02:43:22,160 --> 02:43:25,000
Speaker 1: take a shot. Thank you?

2486
02:43:26,200 --> 02:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Goes all right?

2487
02:43:30,040 --> 02:43:33,480
Speaker 5: Oh man trip coll quest or day lot so oh.

2488
02:43:34,840 --> 02:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Damn man'll slam up man A segments over Bro, No, no,

2489
02:43:39,879 --> 02:43:43,440
Speaker 1: come on, scrap, we're talking here. Both both yeah, man.

2490
02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:50,440
Speaker 2: Okay, n w wah wu tang clan, Oh my goodness both.

2491
02:43:52,240 --> 02:43:53,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna let you do the ice ce No, No,

2492
02:43:54,040 --> 02:43:57,840
Speaker 2: there's uh they got a square walk the executioners or

2493
02:43:58,480 --> 02:44:05,040
Speaker 2: the scratch pickles both. That's three you scraam.

2494
02:44:05,120 --> 02:44:16,280
Speaker 3: Come on ice Cuba, scarface, I need to yeah both,

2495
02:44:17,600 --> 02:44:21,080
Speaker 3: he's got enough for the for the three year limit.

2496
02:44:21,280 --> 02:44:25,640
Speaker 2: Three and then you got this litt you're almost you

2497
02:44:25,720 --> 02:44:28,800
Speaker 2: gotta take those three though, come on, I'm drinking.

2498
02:44:32,440 --> 02:44:33,640
Speaker 5: Drink Champs Christmas Party.

2499
02:44:37,760 --> 02:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Want to get back to the interview. Loyalty or respect?

2500
02:44:41,680 --> 02:44:44,520
Speaker 1: Mhm say both? So he could just spoilt.

2501
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:47,080
Speaker 5: Man, you gotta take all all of those shots.

2502
02:44:47,400 --> 02:44:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot with you though. Thanks for

2503
02:44:49,480 --> 02:44:51,560
Speaker 1: taking one one shot I took a couple.

2504
02:44:51,720 --> 02:44:54,959
Speaker 2: Were talked about flash we access to the heavy guess

2505
02:44:55,600 --> 02:44:58,880
Speaker 2: and it's almost like a cliche type of question, but

2506
02:44:59,000 --> 02:44:59,600
Speaker 2: it really isn't.

2507
02:44:59,680 --> 02:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Not we went accident to you. You want to manage it?

2508
02:45:05,200 --> 02:45:06,400
Speaker 5: Hey, no, sod conversations.

2509
02:45:06,440 --> 02:45:06,920
Speaker 1: You heard them.

2510
02:45:07,600 --> 02:45:09,320
Speaker 5: We're in the resource room staying there.

2511
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:11,039
Speaker 7: That's just.

2512
02:45:12,800 --> 02:45:15,480
Speaker 5: Did you ever think that hip hop would make it

2513
02:45:15,600 --> 02:45:16,119
Speaker 5: this far.

2514
02:45:18,000 --> 02:45:19,959
Speaker 1: Back then? Like you got to see it from the.

2515
02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:31,240
Speaker 7: No, no, I think, especially during that error, this coat

2516
02:45:31,360 --> 02:45:32,280
Speaker 7: was very neat.

2517
02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:34,320
Speaker 5: White people always burp it.

2518
02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:39,400
Speaker 1: This coat was very neat and like they had they

2519
02:45:39,480 --> 02:45:42,800
Speaker 1: had it together. Yeah, it was pretty neat and hip hop.

2520
02:45:42,959 --> 02:45:44,240
Speaker 7: Even to this day it's tattered.

2521
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Right. You know, we we swag a little different. We

2522
02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:52,520
Speaker 1: were closed a little different. We we dressed a little different.

2523
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:55,080
Speaker 1: We were I this this or like this, like we

2524
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:57,640
Speaker 1: do things many flavors of hip hop. Yeah, we we

2525
02:45:57,760 --> 02:46:01,880
Speaker 1: break the laws too much. I didn't think that a

2526
02:46:02,040 --> 02:46:06,959
Speaker 1: major corporation, a major situation, would say, how we're gonna

2527
02:46:07,000 --> 02:46:10,840
Speaker 1: take these guys who were their hats backwards, who don't

2528
02:46:10,959 --> 02:46:15,360
Speaker 1: dress like the average partygoer, We're gonna invest money in them.

2529
02:46:15,920 --> 02:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Never my wildest dreams, which you know, someone wherever I am,

2530
02:46:18,680 --> 02:46:21,160
Speaker 1: whether I'm in Australia or Japan or England or London

2531
02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:26,360
Speaker 1: or California or right here, I thank god that I

2532
02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:30,920
Speaker 1: see this, Like this whole shit that I did could

2533
02:46:30,959 --> 02:46:35,200
Speaker 1: have missed, right. But what happened was people said, what

2534
02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:38,720
Speaker 1: is that? So just that little bit of daylight of

2535
02:46:39,480 --> 02:46:43,840
Speaker 1: what is that was just saving grace for me for

2536
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:46,879
Speaker 1: hip hop. This is when all the producers were coming

2537
02:46:46,920 --> 02:46:49,760
Speaker 1: in town, like what is this thing these kids is doing.

2538
02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:51,520
Speaker 2: What is that?

2539
02:46:51,959 --> 02:46:55,200
Speaker 1: It could have been ill and ill. I don't think

2540
02:46:55,400 --> 02:46:57,240
Speaker 1: none of us would be here. We will probably be

2541
02:46:57,320 --> 02:47:00,120
Speaker 1: doing some other shit. I'll be doing something different. I

2542
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:01,840
Speaker 1: would have hated it, but I would have been doing

2543
02:47:01,879 --> 02:47:02,440
Speaker 1: something different.

2544
02:47:03,520 --> 02:47:05,000
Speaker 5: You wore a lot of spikes back then.

2545
02:47:06,240 --> 02:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I didn't, but yeah the crew did. Yeah, No, I

2546
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:13,800
Speaker 1: didn't win no spikes. You know, you know we wore

2547
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:17,400
Speaker 1: we wore a lot of leather. Lets. We know we've

2548
02:47:17,440 --> 02:47:20,440
Speaker 1: heard different stories. Why, but what's your take on why?

2549
02:47:20,600 --> 02:47:23,480
Speaker 30: That was the I think we wanted to be when

2550
02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:27,800
Speaker 30: we we we we idolized rock and rollers, rock and Rollers,

2551
02:47:27,879 --> 02:47:32,640
Speaker 30: Parliament and Parliament pumpadelic, Like they dressed one way when

2552
02:47:32,680 --> 02:47:35,280
Speaker 30: they went in the streets and they dressed that way

2553
02:47:35,480 --> 02:47:36,840
Speaker 30: when they were on stage.

2554
02:47:36,959 --> 02:47:42,280
Speaker 1: So we were like, let's let's not go buy leather.

2555
02:47:43,080 --> 02:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Let's hire somebody and fly him around the country with

2556
02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:48,560
Speaker 1: us to make our ship.

2557
02:47:50,040 --> 02:47:51,440
Speaker 7: So we had a letter name was Mickey.

2558
02:47:51,840 --> 02:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had stylist from back then. Yeah, So we

2559
02:47:54,600 --> 02:47:57,880
Speaker 1: like if we wanted like turquoise in black, you know,

2560
02:47:58,040 --> 02:48:01,080
Speaker 1: just way in that way. He would high home and

2561
02:48:01,160 --> 02:48:03,320
Speaker 1: then a week lady he would come with six suits

2562
02:48:03,640 --> 02:48:06,240
Speaker 1: boom is he French? Is black?

2563
02:48:06,400 --> 02:48:07,920
Speaker 5: He's black black French.

2564
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:16,000
Speaker 7: You're hele the shop. He's so hard Okay, we told

2565
02:48:16,040 --> 02:48:16,840
Speaker 7: him close that ship down.

2566
02:48:16,840 --> 02:48:17,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you.

2567
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:18,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

2568
02:48:18,120 --> 02:48:18,960
Speaker 7: And he took care of us.

2569
02:48:20,040 --> 02:48:20,600
Speaker 1: God damn it.

2570
02:48:20,720 --> 02:48:22,920
Speaker 2: Man got to take a shot for that man. Take

2571
02:48:22,920 --> 02:48:24,400
Speaker 2: a shot. Take a shot.

2572
02:48:28,640 --> 02:48:29,760
Speaker 1: This is his boss side. Right.

2573
02:48:34,920 --> 02:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Do you like going in the studio making records or

2574
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:39,360
Speaker 2: do you like performing records?

2575
02:48:39,400 --> 02:48:39,920
Speaker 1: What is? What is?

2576
02:48:40,040 --> 02:48:40,960
Speaker 16: What is what?

2577
02:48:41,440 --> 02:48:44,840
Speaker 1: I like doing both? Okay, I like doing both because

2578
02:48:45,480 --> 02:48:47,959
Speaker 1: producer records is technical and that's where I come from.

2579
02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:51,199
Speaker 1: That's a scientist, that mean. But then the performance side

2580
02:48:51,200 --> 02:48:53,800
Speaker 1: of me is the other side, all right playing, So

2581
02:48:54,280 --> 02:48:56,400
Speaker 1: I would say both nor here I say both.

2582
02:48:56,959 --> 02:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you because like the way you broke

2583
02:48:59,280 --> 02:49:01,000
Speaker 2: this down, this was very scientific.

2584
02:49:01,360 --> 02:49:03,440
Speaker 5: This was very biology.

2585
02:49:04,240 --> 02:49:04,280
Speaker 11: Like.

2586
02:49:04,480 --> 02:49:09,000
Speaker 2: This was like this was like a science project how

2587
02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:10,840
Speaker 2: you broke it down. But then I got a lot

2588
02:49:10,879 --> 02:49:15,280
Speaker 2: of friend DJs that's dumb. How do they get over DJ?

2589
02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:18,520
Speaker 2: Because they're not smart? He did all the hard work

2590
02:49:18,560 --> 02:49:22,039
Speaker 2: for it. Oh you literally you know all this shit.

2591
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:24,680
Speaker 1: And somehow it transcended to me as a d like

2592
02:49:24,720 --> 02:49:27,280
Speaker 1: we did all the hard work and it just all

2593
02:49:27,320 --> 02:49:30,080
Speaker 1: that information came to this is the top tier learn

2594
02:49:30,160 --> 02:49:33,680
Speaker 1: how to DJ. I don't go this. Yeah, you know

2595
02:49:33,720 --> 02:49:35,000
Speaker 1: how we all just screwing the ball.

2596
02:49:35,800 --> 02:49:37,600
Speaker 3: But we didn't fucking do all this ship for the

2597
02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:41,000
Speaker 3: light to turn on right the DJs afterwards.

2598
02:49:41,000 --> 02:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong.

2599
02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:44,480
Speaker 3: There's DJs that are really technical, really amazing. But for

2600
02:49:44,560 --> 02:49:46,640
Speaker 3: the most part, he did the hard part. He created

2601
02:49:46,680 --> 02:49:46,920
Speaker 3: the ball.

2602
02:49:47,000 --> 02:49:47,720
Speaker 1: We just screwed it in.

2603
02:49:48,480 --> 02:49:50,000
Speaker 7: That's probably a good way to put it.

2604
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:53,440
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So basically, you ever walked into a party

2605
02:49:53,720 --> 02:49:55,440
Speaker 2: and the DJ is DJ and off his.

2606
02:49:55,520 --> 02:49:57,840
Speaker 1: I pard or his I haven't seen that yet, but

2607
02:49:57,840 --> 02:49:58,480
Speaker 1: I've heard about it.

2608
02:49:58,640 --> 02:49:59,560
Speaker 7: I haven't seen that yet.

2609
02:49:59,680 --> 02:50:00,280
Speaker 1: We you do.

2610
02:50:03,920 --> 02:50:06,760
Speaker 2: If you walked in the party right now, would you say, damn,

2611
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:08,040
Speaker 2: it's come a long way? Or would you be like

2612
02:50:08,360 --> 02:50:12,680
Speaker 2: J mister Lee for the Dominican Republic was back there

2613
02:50:12,920 --> 02:50:14,240
Speaker 2: damn into his phone.

2614
02:50:19,760 --> 02:50:24,160
Speaker 1: The Dominican guy. Let me ask the question, would it

2615
02:50:24,240 --> 02:50:27,119
Speaker 1: be like a party with people dancing? DJ?

2616
02:50:27,640 --> 02:50:29,280
Speaker 3: But he's looking in the mirror though when he's doing it,

2617
02:50:31,200 --> 02:50:33,040
Speaker 3: because I can imagine you're doing that.

2618
02:50:33,160 --> 02:50:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I say to myself? What

2619
02:50:35,120 --> 02:50:40,480
Speaker 1: would you? Yeah, I'm a scientist, right and I'm always

2620
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:49,360
Speaker 1: wanting this to see people push the envelope, to see

2621
02:50:49,400 --> 02:50:51,199
Speaker 1: somebody DJ off their iPod.

2622
02:50:54,080 --> 02:50:55,760
Speaker 7: What is it two iPods that one.

2623
02:50:55,720 --> 02:50:58,760
Speaker 1: Would be ins iPhone. Now there's no more. It's his phone.

2624
02:50:58,760 --> 02:51:02,200
Speaker 1: He got, he got his phone, so he's getting so

2625
02:51:02,360 --> 02:51:04,960
Speaker 1: he's just pretty much just playing. He's playlisting.

2626
02:51:05,160 --> 02:51:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah no, they actually have little turntable apps in the

2627
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:09,760
Speaker 3: phone and some people are.

2628
02:51:09,680 --> 02:51:13,800
Speaker 1: Actually I've never seen it, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

2629
02:51:13,840 --> 02:51:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, showing this despicable showing I heard about it.

2630
02:51:17,600 --> 02:51:18,200
Speaker 6: Never seen someone.

2631
02:51:18,280 --> 02:51:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I've seen you in your phone from.

2632
02:51:23,080 --> 02:51:25,760
Speaker 3: Anybody just playing a playlist off their phone saying their DJs.

2633
02:51:25,800 --> 02:51:27,440
Speaker 1: That's the most disrespectful shit in the world.

2634
02:51:27,640 --> 02:51:29,320
Speaker 3: You at least have the app that you're doing, like

2635
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:31,039
Speaker 3: a ticket ticket and then fucking.

2636
02:51:31,360 --> 02:51:33,400
Speaker 5: I think I've seen Shot get busy on his phone

2637
02:51:33,480 --> 02:51:33,880
Speaker 5: one time.

2638
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:35,959
Speaker 3: I bet you, I bet you has he's a DJ

2639
02:51:36,080 --> 02:51:38,400
Speaker 3: bro He's yeah, he has a better Shay app.

2640
02:51:38,560 --> 02:51:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a shock.

2641
02:51:40,920 --> 02:51:44,440
Speaker 1: Who was that's big in sports? Play for the Lakers.

2642
02:51:45,240 --> 02:51:48,960
Speaker 1: Point god, you know what I'm talking about. Play for

2643
02:51:49,040 --> 02:51:51,280
Speaker 1: the Lakers. He's a DJ, early early Lakers, when the

2644
02:51:51,360 --> 02:51:55,560
Speaker 1: Lakers was killing it. Magic Johnson was a DJ really.

2645
02:51:55,879 --> 02:51:57,480
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, he played the Pay's.

2646
02:51:57,120 --> 02:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Been older for twenty five years. Yeah, played for the

2647
02:52:00,040 --> 02:52:07,440
Speaker 1: like Magic Johnson want to DJ Jesus right now? The

2648
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:10,000
Speaker 1: masic was the DJ. I didn't know that. I thought

2649
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:17,119
Speaker 1: you was talking my home Russell? What Russell? I want

2650
02:52:17,120 --> 02:52:17,680
Speaker 1: to show up to.

2651
02:52:19,560 --> 02:52:22,960
Speaker 7: The breakdances? Who like I see them? I see them?

2652
02:52:23,360 --> 02:52:25,960
Speaker 1: You never see these motherfuckers do that crazy leg like

2653
02:52:26,080 --> 02:52:28,840
Speaker 1: crazy legs and and and and in the shott that's

2654
02:52:28,879 --> 02:52:32,560
Speaker 1: going into the Olympics. Yeah, it's incredible, like the way

2655
02:52:32,600 --> 02:52:34,320
Speaker 1: they contort their body.

2656
02:52:34,120 --> 02:52:35,200
Speaker 7: And do that ship they do.

2657
02:52:35,680 --> 02:52:39,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely shout out to do on concrete early Breakers,

2658
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:43,360
Speaker 9: my early breakers, BAMS early breakers, and then the second

2659
02:52:43,400 --> 02:52:46,199
Speaker 9: tier that came along the Breakers, you know all.

2660
02:52:47,720 --> 02:52:48,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely one.

2661
02:52:48,400 --> 02:52:51,120
Speaker 3: Can we actually go go back to the convo of

2662
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:54,519
Speaker 3: that's when you that's the beginning of you wanting.

2663
02:52:54,320 --> 02:52:57,720
Speaker 1: To continue those breaks was for the breakers, for the breakers,

2664
02:52:57,800 --> 02:53:02,720
Speaker 1: the breakers where the stars the rappers hadn't arrived yet, right,

2665
02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:04,400
Speaker 1: they hadn't arrived yet, you know.

2666
02:53:04,920 --> 02:53:08,160
Speaker 3: And and sorry sout, but the audience came to hear

2667
02:53:08,320 --> 02:53:12,880
Speaker 3: you and see them right right or you could see

2668
02:53:12,879 --> 02:53:15,720
Speaker 3: a Breakdan So with the boom box on any corner

2669
02:53:15,959 --> 02:53:20,080
Speaker 3: the Street corner doing a ship with the cardboard, with

2670
02:53:20,240 --> 02:53:21,200
Speaker 3: the cardboard exactly.

2671
02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:21,920
Speaker 1: Come look at the.

2672
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:22,960
Speaker 5: Back of your shirt real quick.

2673
02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:26,400
Speaker 2: Please, I want to say, by the way, we get

2674
02:53:26,440 --> 02:53:28,840
Speaker 2: disestablished and we laced you with some drink Champs gear

2675
02:53:28,959 --> 02:53:29,240
Speaker 2: right there.

2676
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:29,920
Speaker 7: I got you.

2677
02:53:30,320 --> 02:53:31,480
Speaker 1: Yes, can you read that for me?

2678
02:53:31,600 --> 02:53:42,760
Speaker 31: Scram First DJ to make the turntable an instrument, you know,

2679
02:53:44,360 --> 02:53:46,680
Speaker 31: to have a rapper that's makes no noise for that.

2680
02:53:49,120 --> 02:53:51,840
Speaker 32: DJ to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Face.

2681
02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:59,440
Speaker 32: First DJ to be on serious ex DJ to get

2682
02:53:59,480 --> 02:54:04,120
Speaker 32: a Grammy. It was DDA to get a polar price.

2683
02:54:06,480 --> 02:54:07,680
Speaker 1: Can't you read the box?

2684
02:54:08,120 --> 02:54:08,360
Speaker 7: Thank you?

2685
02:54:09,240 --> 02:54:09,600
Speaker 6: You're good?

2686
02:54:09,959 --> 02:54:13,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got Yeah, you took a lot of them shots. Man,

2687
02:54:13,080 --> 02:54:13,400
Speaker 7: you're good.

2688
02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:18,480
Speaker 1: He took it for the culture. What do you do

2689
02:54:18,600 --> 02:54:21,039
Speaker 1: with your Grammy right now? Like? Do you sip out

2690
02:54:21,080 --> 02:54:29,439
Speaker 1: of it? Actually? I do a show on Twitch every Tuesday,

2691
02:54:31,600 --> 02:54:35,200
Speaker 1: New high Noon Experience and then Thursday's eight pm. Uh

2692
02:54:36,640 --> 02:54:40,200
Speaker 1: my Grammy is in my studio. Okay, well, well I

2693
02:54:40,600 --> 02:54:43,880
Speaker 1: do my show. Yeah, you know, like one is on

2694
02:54:44,160 --> 02:54:46,240
Speaker 1: one podium, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame one

2695
02:54:46,360 --> 02:54:48,119
Speaker 1: is on the left podium, the Grammys on the right,

2696
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:51,360
Speaker 1: and then all the other awards are kind of.

2697
02:54:52,879 --> 02:54:56,440
Speaker 2: You know, uh sped around, you know, so good because

2698
02:54:56,480 --> 02:54:59,160
Speaker 2: k Rest said that he boycotted, not boycotted, but he

2699
02:54:59,160 --> 02:55:02,880
Speaker 2: didn't want to participate and the Grammys ceremonied because like

2700
02:55:02,920 --> 02:55:04,720
Speaker 2: forty years of hip hop. He's like, yo, that could

2701
02:55:04,720 --> 02:55:06,520
Speaker 2: have started at forty seven and gave us a warning

2702
02:55:06,720 --> 02:55:08,000
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, And he's like, you

2703
02:55:08,120 --> 02:55:09,920
Speaker 2: guys just want to you want to ignore us for

2704
02:55:09,959 --> 02:55:10,400
Speaker 2: fifty year.

2705
02:55:10,480 --> 02:55:12,240
Speaker 3: But he said that he didn't feel that hip hop

2706
02:55:12,360 --> 02:55:13,440
Speaker 3: was fully represented in that.

2707
02:55:13,800 --> 02:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the B Boys, the Big Girls. Yeah, I

2708
02:55:18,040 --> 02:55:22,040
Speaker 1: mean I would agree that needs to be seen on

2709
02:55:22,120 --> 02:55:25,760
Speaker 1: a major network. Four elements. Nobody has done that yet,

2710
02:55:25,800 --> 02:55:30,000
Speaker 1: So I do respect charts KRS one four four elements

2711
02:55:30,080 --> 02:55:33,520
Speaker 1: is to break, Yeah, and then the fifty artist abatable

2712
02:55:33,959 --> 02:55:37,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, four elements and the knowledge yourself and be

2713
02:55:38,040 --> 02:55:41,480
Speaker 1: boxing are always like be boxing, I don't know what

2714
02:55:41,600 --> 02:55:44,960
Speaker 1: that is because the B boxes right there, So you

2715
02:55:45,040 --> 02:55:50,359
Speaker 1: think about being boxing that falls under wrapse speaking, you know, musically.

2716
02:55:54,480 --> 02:55:57,120
Speaker 3: Do you feel that everything for fifty Yeah, for fifty

2717
02:55:57,200 --> 02:56:00,720
Speaker 3: years hip hop, whether it was author or not, was

2718
02:56:00,760 --> 02:56:02,760
Speaker 3: it positive because you know a lot of obviously a

2719
02:56:02,840 --> 02:56:05,800
Speaker 3: lot of corporate interests show advantage of Oh, okay, it's

2720
02:56:05,840 --> 02:56:07,560
Speaker 3: hip hop fifty. So we're gonna have we're gonna do

2721
02:56:07,600 --> 02:56:09,400
Speaker 3: all these things. So your question is what now, Like,

2722
02:56:09,480 --> 02:56:11,880
Speaker 3: do you feel that it was positive in general for

2723
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:12,360
Speaker 3: hip hop?

2724
02:56:12,560 --> 02:56:12,720
Speaker 1: Yes?

2725
02:56:12,800 --> 02:56:13,720
Speaker 7: I do in general.

2726
02:56:14,080 --> 02:56:20,240
Speaker 1: I just think that, as I said earlier, the detail

2727
02:56:20,480 --> 02:56:25,720
Speaker 1: of where it came from and what it took to

2728
02:56:25,959 --> 02:56:30,080
Speaker 1: get here has not been properly represented. And this is

2729
02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:32,600
Speaker 1: what I say to the PR people and to the

2730
02:56:32,680 --> 02:56:35,440
Speaker 1: press people, like, if you want to know like at

2731
02:56:35,440 --> 02:56:39,080
Speaker 1: the beginning, beginning, beginning, you got to ask somebody that's

2732
02:56:39,080 --> 02:56:43,040
Speaker 1: around sixty. You have to. You can't ask somebody thirty

2733
02:56:43,560 --> 02:56:48,400
Speaker 1: or twenty five. You just cannot. And this is why

2734
02:56:48,520 --> 02:56:52,240
Speaker 1: I find it critically important to speak. It's because, like

2735
02:56:52,360 --> 02:56:54,800
Speaker 1: I said once August twelf gifts here, it's a new trend,

2736
02:56:55,160 --> 02:56:55,600
Speaker 1: new shit.

2737
02:56:55,840 --> 02:56:56,440
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

2738
02:56:56,480 --> 02:56:57,440
Speaker 1: No, what is it?

2739
02:56:57,520 --> 02:56:57,680
Speaker 2: Five?

2740
02:56:57,760 --> 02:56:58,040
Speaker 30: What is it?

2741
02:56:58,120 --> 02:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Five to twenty?

2742
02:56:58,680 --> 02:56:59,040
Speaker 2: Cedric?

2743
02:56:59,120 --> 02:57:02,480
Speaker 1: What is iteen twenty Saturday, fifteen twenty? That's herks Plax?

2744
02:57:02,520 --> 02:57:04,800
Speaker 1: Mine is is twenty seven thirty two we Avenue. That's

2745
02:57:04,840 --> 02:57:05,640
Speaker 1: a two part question.

2746
02:57:06,120 --> 02:57:08,440
Speaker 2: Is that actually the first hip hop party that ever

2747
02:57:08,920 --> 02:57:09,280
Speaker 2: was there?

2748
02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:12,560
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, Okay, I never I didn't see it.

2749
02:57:12,640 --> 02:57:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what's here. And I've never talked to

2750
02:57:15,080 --> 02:57:17,760
Speaker 1: anybody that went to this party. And I'm not saying

2751
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:20,520
Speaker 1: that it didn't exist for sure, but I haven't seen

2752
02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:24,600
Speaker 1: anybody on the internet talk about I was there. I

2753
02:57:25,320 --> 02:57:27,080
Speaker 1: that's what crazy, legs, that's what crazy.

2754
02:57:27,200 --> 02:57:29,280
Speaker 3: He said that the discrepancy with that party is one

2755
02:57:29,280 --> 02:57:32,800
Speaker 3: of the biggest contested things really the history. He feels

2756
02:57:32,840 --> 02:57:37,199
Speaker 3: that that flyer keeps getting remixed, where people keep adding names,

2757
02:57:37,320 --> 02:57:38,280
Speaker 3: taking names away.

2758
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he said it on the show.

2759
02:57:40,320 --> 02:57:43,800
Speaker 3: He said that that's a contested event, like nothing it happened,

2760
02:57:44,120 --> 02:57:46,080
Speaker 3: but how it happened, or who involved or what.

2761
02:57:46,400 --> 02:57:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to know who was there and how

2762
02:57:52,560 --> 02:57:55,680
Speaker 1: the party turned out, how many chicks were versus guys

2763
02:57:55,720 --> 02:57:59,000
Speaker 1: when you break it, Like, I want to know that too,

2764
02:57:59,120 --> 02:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Like I want.

2765
02:57:59,480 --> 02:58:00,520
Speaker 7: To know the mayor go around.

2766
02:58:00,560 --> 02:58:02,280
Speaker 1: I want to know what that technique of minds to

2767
02:58:02,360 --> 02:58:03,280
Speaker 1: the quick mix theories.

2768
02:58:03,560 --> 02:58:05,920
Speaker 7: I'd love to know, you know, what was that for

2769
02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:08,320
Speaker 7: us party? And what's the merry go round?

2770
02:58:08,400 --> 02:58:10,280
Speaker 1: When did you first hear about that party? Like when

2771
02:58:10,440 --> 02:58:10,959
Speaker 1: was it first?

2772
02:58:11,480 --> 02:58:13,400
Speaker 3: Like when did people start saying this is the first

2773
02:58:13,480 --> 02:58:18,680
Speaker 3: party identifying it as the beginning of hip hop, is

2774
02:58:18,920 --> 02:58:21,800
Speaker 3: that you remember, because that's that's crucial. You would be

2775
02:58:21,840 --> 02:58:24,320
Speaker 3: the one to tell us because we wouldn't know that's

2776
02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:27,040
Speaker 3: way before our time, right, you would say, Hey, you

2777
02:58:27,120 --> 02:58:29,400
Speaker 3: know what, guys, I really didn't remember this being talked

2778
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:31,800
Speaker 3: about as much. And that's kind of like what Crazy

2779
02:58:31,840 --> 02:58:33,000
Speaker 3: Legs was kind of talking about.

2780
02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:34,279
Speaker 7: I don't want to I don't remember.

2781
02:58:34,280 --> 02:58:37,720
Speaker 3: I don't remember what he said. I can't remember because

2782
02:58:37,840 --> 02:58:42,080
Speaker 3: it's all rallying around that point. That's why we're celebrating fifty, right.

2783
02:58:42,760 --> 02:58:48,400
Speaker 1: But then if we're going to celebrate fifty, then we

2784
02:58:48,560 --> 02:58:54,240
Speaker 1: got to talk about the party, who was there, right

2785
02:58:54,680 --> 02:58:59,640
Speaker 1: where it was, what happened, and this is you know,

2786
02:58:59,800 --> 02:59:02,520
Speaker 1: this is probably probably why he's he's he's saying that,

2787
02:59:02,760 --> 02:59:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I would respectfully love to sit down

2788
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:12,120
Speaker 1: with Hurricane, you'll sit down with his crew. That's why

2789
02:59:12,120 --> 02:59:13,440
Speaker 1: it's crucial that he does what you're doing.

2790
02:59:14,000 --> 02:59:15,520
Speaker 7: It's it's it's extremely important.

2791
02:59:15,760 --> 02:59:20,480
Speaker 1: And I can tell you even on my streams, I

2792
02:59:20,600 --> 02:59:23,560
Speaker 1: have people who were at my parties in the beginning

2793
02:59:23,640 --> 02:59:29,240
Speaker 1: when I was nothing. Uh, that that will tell you

2794
02:59:29,360 --> 02:59:31,640
Speaker 1: what my party who's like the They remind me of

2795
02:59:31,680 --> 02:59:35,600
Speaker 1: ship that I forgot about his Cookie Monroe, Anna Monroe,

2796
02:59:35,840 --> 02:59:39,800
Speaker 1: Jacqueline Tucker, like these people that are still here, and

2797
02:59:40,400 --> 02:59:43,120
Speaker 1: one of them actually works works with with me in

2798
02:59:43,240 --> 02:59:47,360
Speaker 1: my company, that remembers ship that I totally forgot. And

2799
02:59:47,520 --> 02:59:50,040
Speaker 1: this is was really critically important because that kind of

2800
02:59:50,160 --> 02:59:53,560
Speaker 1: verifies when you got the layman's and and and the

2801
02:59:53,600 --> 02:59:56,120
Speaker 1: party goal with saying yep, that ship was true and

2802
02:59:56,120 --> 02:59:59,920
Speaker 1: it's verified. I'm still yet to hear, and I love

2803
03:00:00,120 --> 03:00:03,920
Speaker 1: to hear who was at that first party, if it

2804
03:00:04,040 --> 03:00:08,280
Speaker 1: happened at the center, what happened at that center, what.

2805
03:00:08,480 --> 03:00:08,880
Speaker 3: Was going on?

2806
03:00:10,280 --> 03:00:11,440
Speaker 7: Like, what was happening?

2807
03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:18,320
Speaker 1: We need to know that. It's critically this happens before

2808
03:00:18,600 --> 03:00:19,760
Speaker 1: August eleventh.

2809
03:00:20,120 --> 03:00:21,320
Speaker 7: That's just my opinion.

2810
03:00:21,360 --> 03:00:23,400
Speaker 2: Respect August eleven for making fifty one years.

2811
03:00:23,879 --> 03:00:26,520
Speaker 1: After that it becomes of fifty one years and then

2812
03:00:26,560 --> 03:00:28,760
Speaker 1: it's over. You know, next fifty years, I ain't gonna

2813
03:00:28,760 --> 03:00:31,360
Speaker 1: be here, you know, So do you think I remember? That?

2814
03:00:31,480 --> 03:00:33,960
Speaker 2: Was another thing that Crazy Legs was playing was that

2815
03:00:34,080 --> 03:00:35,360
Speaker 2: hip hop is older than fifty.

2816
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's saying because and DMC said this, he said

2817
03:00:40,120 --> 03:00:43,640
Speaker 3: documented hip hop, we can call it fifty. But he

2818
03:00:43,760 --> 03:00:46,960
Speaker 3: said hip hop was happening before that that's what even

2819
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:56,359
Speaker 3: DMC was saying that, Yeah, okay.

2820
03:00:56,120 --> 03:01:01,160
Speaker 1: Let's define it. If we define it, guys, it's the

2821
03:01:01,280 --> 03:01:09,360
Speaker 1: DJ only and playing what we call bastard music. The

2822
03:01:09,480 --> 03:01:11,920
Speaker 1: C cuts, the D cuts, the F cuts off the album.

2823
03:01:16,560 --> 03:01:20,880
Speaker 1: That's where hip hop. To me, that's where we had

2824
03:01:20,959 --> 03:01:24,280
Speaker 1: no title. It wasn't it wasn't named yet.

2825
03:01:24,320 --> 03:01:24,840
Speaker 7: That's why it.

2826
03:01:28,000 --> 03:01:34,560
Speaker 1: Could be up for discussion, you know, because there's two

2827
03:01:34,600 --> 03:01:37,040
Speaker 1: ways to look at it. When it was fully formed

2828
03:01:37,080 --> 03:01:40,879
Speaker 1: and all four elements came into into play, that would

2829
03:01:40,920 --> 03:01:46,520
Speaker 1: make it me seventy four because that's when hip that's

2830
03:01:46,520 --> 03:01:51,280
Speaker 1: when Cowboy joined me. But if we go pre then

2831
03:01:51,320 --> 03:01:56,560
Speaker 1: it was just the dj M and the breakers and

2832
03:01:56,640 --> 03:02:00,800
Speaker 1: the graffiti artists. Coclorac says he's a rapper, but he's not.

2833
03:02:01,000 --> 03:02:01,640
Speaker 7: He was a DJ.

2834
03:02:01,879 --> 03:02:05,400
Speaker 1: I used to go watch him and if he was

2835
03:02:05,440 --> 03:02:08,000
Speaker 1: talking on the mic, you know with the echo, Chambers

2836
03:02:08,600 --> 03:02:12,400
Speaker 1: was just rambling. So there are some things that are

2837
03:02:12,440 --> 03:02:15,800
Speaker 1: up that a subject. And I want to give Perk

2838
03:02:15,879 --> 03:02:18,880
Speaker 1: all his flowers. He deserves everything that he's done. But

2839
03:02:19,000 --> 03:02:21,880
Speaker 1: there are some things that are up for question, and

2840
03:02:22,000 --> 03:02:25,800
Speaker 1: I think either all of us or one at a time,

2841
03:02:27,160 --> 03:02:31,840
Speaker 1: like Cochlar Rock, Timmy Tam, I think he's passed away.

2842
03:02:32,240 --> 03:02:36,760
Speaker 1: Clock can't the original clocks, you know, and the twins,

2843
03:02:37,320 --> 03:02:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, they gotta start speaking. It would be great if.

2844
03:02:42,320 --> 03:02:45,480
Speaker 3: It would be a lot of you guys together because

2845
03:02:45,680 --> 03:02:48,959
Speaker 3: you could cross reference, debate things, and hash it out

2846
03:02:48,959 --> 03:02:49,520
Speaker 3: of that moment.

2847
03:02:49,920 --> 03:02:59,840
Speaker 1: Speaking on cross referencing Wikipedia, they have been extremely just

2848
03:03:00,040 --> 03:03:06,560
Speaker 1: suspectful to me. There's supposed to be the standard for

2849
03:03:06,760 --> 03:03:10,600
Speaker 1: information for the world to see old and new. Right.

2850
03:03:14,879 --> 03:03:18,000
Speaker 1: They got my birthday wrong. Fifty eight supposed to be

2851
03:03:18,040 --> 03:03:22,520
Speaker 1: fifty seven. I was born in the Bronx. They are

2852
03:03:23,200 --> 03:03:28,840
Speaker 1: you know their process on how they say yes or

2853
03:03:29,000 --> 03:03:33,920
Speaker 1: no to something. I tried even talking with them. They said,

2854
03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:38,040
Speaker 1: mister Sadler, I say I did this. They say, missus Sadler,

2855
03:03:38,320 --> 03:03:43,240
Speaker 1: there's no reference to you doing this. I'm saying this.

2856
03:03:44,000 --> 03:03:47,480
Speaker 1: They can't be a reference because Wikipedia wasn't born then,

2857
03:03:48,160 --> 03:03:50,040
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me all these things? And

2858
03:03:50,120 --> 03:03:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that I did. And they kept just

2859
03:03:53,879 --> 03:03:56,240
Speaker 1: as we was talking with them, they kept not being like, no,

2860
03:03:56,600 --> 03:04:00,360
Speaker 1: you can't the beatbox, no, the cutting, no to quick

2861
03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:05,360
Speaker 1: mys theory, no. Wow. So you Wikipedia is saying to me,

2862
03:04:06,080 --> 03:04:08,880
Speaker 1: you there's no reference to this stuff.

2863
03:04:09,520 --> 03:04:11,960
Speaker 7: Of course there's no reference because I didn't talk about it.

2864
03:04:12,280 --> 03:04:14,360
Speaker 1: I just started talking for a long time, and I'm

2865
03:04:14,360 --> 03:04:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, Because talking these things and this

2866
03:04:18,920 --> 03:04:24,640
Speaker 1: math is geeky, and for a long time, geeks weren't cool, right,

2867
03:04:25,040 --> 03:04:26,720
Speaker 1: so I shut the fuck up. For a long time.

2868
03:04:27,400 --> 03:04:30,440
Speaker 7: Now geese ruled the world. I'm talking.

2869
03:04:39,560 --> 03:04:44,359
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you know, like Wikipedia, once you hiring.

2870
03:04:44,120 --> 03:04:48,560
Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, Wikipedia, hire motherfucking grandmaster flash, please.

2871
03:04:48,560 --> 03:04:50,680
Speaker 1: You hire me. I can really help you with, especially

2872
03:04:50,720 --> 03:04:53,760
Speaker 1: with the historical area and your process on how you

2873
03:04:54,000 --> 03:04:56,520
Speaker 1: say something is credible versus something that's.

2874
03:04:56,440 --> 03:04:58,920
Speaker 3: Not, because they allow people to go in there that

2875
03:04:59,040 --> 03:05:02,000
Speaker 3: are like Wikipedia approved, so they input it. But it's

2876
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:05,279
Speaker 3: like like, like how can they You can't for yourself

2877
03:05:05,320 --> 03:05:05,680
Speaker 3: think right?

2878
03:05:05,840 --> 03:05:06,080
Speaker 1: Wrong?

2879
03:05:06,320 --> 03:05:06,480
Speaker 13: Right?

2880
03:05:07,120 --> 03:05:10,840
Speaker 1: They're talking in the horse's mouth like you're talking to

2881
03:05:11,040 --> 03:05:14,760
Speaker 1: the person. No, we're sorry, Uh, we'll get back to you.

2882
03:05:14,840 --> 03:05:16,560
Speaker 1: And then when we get back to them, all we

2883
03:05:16,600 --> 03:05:19,800
Speaker 1: couldn't find no reference. You ain't gonna find no reference.

2884
03:05:19,879 --> 03:05:22,840
Speaker 1: Put you on the right link when links weren't available

2885
03:05:22,879 --> 03:05:25,400
Speaker 1: at that time. But you know what, the references the streets, right,

2886
03:05:26,200 --> 03:05:26,920
Speaker 1: that's a reference.

2887
03:05:27,040 --> 03:05:27,920
Speaker 6: No one's gonna check you.

2888
03:05:28,879 --> 03:05:30,240
Speaker 7: Who's gonna say that I didn't do it.

2889
03:05:31,000 --> 03:05:34,160
Speaker 1: Here's the man in the science, and then I physically

2890
03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:36,080
Speaker 1: done it. That leads me to a thought.

2891
03:05:36,400 --> 03:05:37,600
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you guys brought it up

2892
03:05:37,600 --> 03:05:39,959
Speaker 3: before when I went to the restaurant, but is there

2893
03:05:40,080 --> 03:05:43,520
Speaker 3: any documentary that you would co sign and say this

2894
03:05:43,720 --> 03:05:49,720
Speaker 3: is the best documentary right now that tells you the history? Oh?

2895
03:05:49,840 --> 03:05:51,640
Speaker 1: Man, there's so many I seen ship, so many that

2896
03:05:51,720 --> 03:05:55,880
Speaker 1: I seen. Oh, I can't answer that question right now.

2897
03:05:55,920 --> 03:05:57,840
Speaker 1: There was a few that was pretty good. I think

2898
03:05:58,160 --> 03:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Rebel Kings was really dope. I don't know if you

2899
03:05:59,720 --> 03:06:01,039
Speaker 1: saw that. No, I didn't see that one.

2900
03:06:01,240 --> 03:06:04,320
Speaker 3: There was a man fresh dress which felt like a

2901
03:06:04,440 --> 03:06:06,920
Speaker 3: complimented rubble guy. I don't know everybody saw that saw that.

2902
03:06:07,120 --> 03:06:09,280
Speaker 3: But I felt like those two documentaries need to look

2903
03:06:09,280 --> 03:06:10,960
Speaker 3: at I need to look at those. It tells the

2904
03:06:11,080 --> 03:06:13,800
Speaker 3: Bronx history, like what was happening through the Gang Wars

2905
03:06:14,120 --> 03:06:14,840
Speaker 3: all hip.

2906
03:06:15,280 --> 03:06:20,440
Speaker 1: And I think for me, the documentary that I'd love

2907
03:06:20,520 --> 03:06:25,160
Speaker 1: to see is if someone paints a picture of the

2908
03:06:25,280 --> 03:06:27,840
Speaker 1: beginning and then slowly take it up.

2909
03:06:27,879 --> 03:06:28,039
Speaker 6: Here.

2910
03:06:28,879 --> 03:06:31,280
Speaker 1: A few of the of the documentaries I did see,

2911
03:06:31,280 --> 03:06:35,520
Speaker 1: they're incomplete. They're not wrong, they're just holes in it.

2912
03:06:35,680 --> 03:06:37,680
Speaker 1: You know you can poke holes in it because you

2913
03:06:37,760 --> 03:06:39,160
Speaker 1: got to say, wait a minute, if that was that,

2914
03:06:39,680 --> 03:06:41,080
Speaker 1: then how did that get to that?

2915
03:06:42,320 --> 03:06:47,240
Speaker 7: And that there? I'd love to see you ever got

2916
03:06:47,280 --> 03:06:47,840
Speaker 7: to be Biggie?

2917
03:06:50,680 --> 03:06:52,000
Speaker 1: No? Oh wow?

2918
03:06:52,959 --> 03:06:53,680
Speaker 5: How about Tupac?

2919
03:06:54,720 --> 03:06:57,160
Speaker 1: I sat next to Tupac at a gathering and we

2920
03:06:57,280 --> 03:06:59,640
Speaker 1: talked for a few minutes, but we didn't.

2921
03:06:59,640 --> 03:07:00,879
Speaker 7: I didn't to talk to these two.

2922
03:07:00,920 --> 03:07:01,280
Speaker 1: I would have.

2923
03:07:03,680 --> 03:07:04,000
Speaker 7: I think.

2924
03:07:06,240 --> 03:07:10,640
Speaker 1: When I heard what happened them too, I cried. I

2925
03:07:10,640 --> 03:07:12,320
Speaker 1: didn't really know them. I never had coffee and t

2926
03:07:12,440 --> 03:07:13,959
Speaker 1: with them. I know their parents, I kN know nothing,

2927
03:07:14,120 --> 03:07:17,920
Speaker 1: but they've done so much for the culture.

2928
03:07:18,000 --> 03:07:18,520
Speaker 7: I think.

2929
03:07:21,560 --> 03:07:24,199
Speaker 1: This thing has to stay. If it has to exist,

2930
03:07:24,959 --> 03:07:30,800
Speaker 1: it's just stay competitive. Nobody should lose their life over this.

2931
03:07:32,360 --> 03:07:37,600
Speaker 1: That there is insane, like why did they have to die?

2932
03:07:38,560 --> 03:07:42,760
Speaker 1: And then here is the crazy shit. Please can't find

2933
03:07:42,760 --> 03:07:46,080
Speaker 1: out who did what what? It's still a question mark, right,

2934
03:07:46,200 --> 03:07:48,840
Speaker 1: it's a conspiracy. We don't know nothing. What the fuck

2935
03:07:48,959 --> 03:07:49,400
Speaker 1: is up with that?

2936
03:07:50,040 --> 03:07:53,840
Speaker 33: Why is this they held in public places where there's witnesses.

2937
03:07:56,080 --> 03:07:58,840
Speaker 1: That makes me crazy? And them two going at it

2938
03:07:59,160 --> 03:08:03,400
Speaker 1: east and west? What's healthy to hip Hopa's healthy competition?

2939
03:08:04,160 --> 03:08:09,320
Speaker 1: But people losing their life come on. I tried like

2940
03:08:09,360 --> 03:08:11,840
Speaker 1: a baby, and I never met them personally because of

2941
03:08:11,920 --> 03:08:14,800
Speaker 1: what they meant to the culture. We have a big

2942
03:08:14,879 --> 03:08:17,119
Speaker 1: fun You ever met Big Pun I met him once

2943
03:08:17,240 --> 03:08:20,480
Speaker 1: for a brief period of time. I didn't get to

2944
03:08:21,160 --> 03:08:22,360
Speaker 1: talk to him much either.

2945
03:08:22,640 --> 03:08:27,240
Speaker 2: Nor if you get asked to do a party right now,

2946
03:08:27,600 --> 03:08:32,879
Speaker 2: and this party is sixteen to twenty one, they're saying

2947
03:08:33,240 --> 03:08:34,240
Speaker 2: they want new music.

2948
03:08:35,240 --> 03:08:36,680
Speaker 5: What is a new artist?

2949
03:08:36,840 --> 03:08:40,800
Speaker 2: A new artist that grand Master Flash is getting the

2950
03:08:40,879 --> 03:08:42,320
Speaker 2: party jumping to him.

2951
03:08:42,560 --> 03:08:44,280
Speaker 7: Can I be totally honest with you, Yes?

2952
03:08:44,920 --> 03:08:45,240
Speaker 5: Please.

2953
03:08:46,120 --> 03:08:54,440
Speaker 1: I have a lane, and respectfully, if I'm not an

2954
03:08:54,640 --> 03:09:03,039
Speaker 1: expert in what I do in my lane, I don't

2955
03:09:03,120 --> 03:09:07,680
Speaker 1: go near it. I don't know enough about the music

2956
03:09:08,240 --> 03:09:10,400
Speaker 1: that the sixteen to twenty one's love.

2957
03:09:12,240 --> 03:09:14,520
Speaker 7: I couldn't play a two hour set.

2958
03:09:15,840 --> 03:09:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

2959
03:09:18,640 --> 03:09:23,840
Speaker 7: I don't know enough to play to know this.

2960
03:09:24,800 --> 03:09:28,160
Speaker 1: And scram could definitely identify and you there's that nine

2961
03:09:28,160 --> 03:09:29,800
Speaker 1: o'clock record, and there's a record to.

2962
03:09:29,879 --> 03:09:30,760
Speaker 7: Hold to one o'clock.

2963
03:09:32,840 --> 03:09:35,120
Speaker 1: I'll probably played the one o'clock record at nine, like

2964
03:09:35,280 --> 03:09:37,600
Speaker 1: I will probably screw the whole fucking shit off.

2965
03:09:38,200 --> 03:09:38,880
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

2966
03:09:39,080 --> 03:09:41,000
Speaker 1: My children they't tell me about records all the time,

2967
03:09:41,040 --> 03:09:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I check it. But I am not

2968
03:09:46,560 --> 03:09:50,600
Speaker 1: going to try to be something that i'm not and

2969
03:09:51,360 --> 03:09:54,440
Speaker 1: service because I'm a servant and if I can't serve

2970
03:09:54,480 --> 03:09:57,640
Speaker 1: you properly, then I will serve you at all respectfully.

2971
03:09:58,040 --> 03:09:59,760
Speaker 2: It's like one time I was hanging with Bust and

2972
03:09:59,760 --> 03:10:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm be paraphrasing or thinking this in a different form.

2973
03:10:04,160 --> 03:10:06,039
Speaker 2: So if I if I if I get it wrong,

2974
03:10:06,080 --> 03:10:09,440
Speaker 2: then I apologize. But bus one time someone calls him

2975
03:10:10,200 --> 03:10:12,800
Speaker 2: and they wanted him to perform at an old school event,

2976
03:10:13,040 --> 03:10:14,840
Speaker 2: and the fact that they called it old school, I

2977
03:10:14,879 --> 03:10:17,400
Speaker 2: don't think he wanted to participate, you know.

2978
03:10:17,360 --> 03:10:17,760
Speaker 1: What I mean?

2979
03:10:17,959 --> 03:10:21,119
Speaker 2: Hmm, because he felt like, yo' I might be old

2980
03:10:21,160 --> 03:10:23,800
Speaker 2: school to some, but I'm not old school, So he

2981
03:10:23,840 --> 03:10:25,720
Speaker 2: didn't want to participate in that. Is that something like

2982
03:10:25,800 --> 03:10:27,920
Speaker 2: if it's like a new school jam, like you don't

2983
03:10:27,920 --> 03:10:30,400
Speaker 2: want to like indulge in because no.

2984
03:10:30,480 --> 03:10:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't want to indulge in it.

2985
03:10:32,200 --> 03:10:34,600
Speaker 1: Don't do him. Yeah, I don't write because I'm gonna

2986
03:10:34,680 --> 03:10:38,080
Speaker 1: do me right. And they're gonna say, what is he playing? Yeah, yeah,

2987
03:10:38,720 --> 03:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what we understand. I'm gonna do with

2988
03:10:41,080 --> 03:10:43,880
Speaker 1: everybody in this room understand what a sixteen year old

2989
03:10:43,959 --> 03:10:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna say?

2990
03:10:45,840 --> 03:10:47,000
Speaker 6: What is that right?

2991
03:10:47,200 --> 03:10:49,840
Speaker 1: And why are you playing that right? We don't want

2992
03:10:49,840 --> 03:10:51,680
Speaker 1: to hear that, And I had nothing. He has nothing

2993
03:10:51,760 --> 03:10:55,400
Speaker 1: to do about whether I love or hate or whatever.

2994
03:10:55,680 --> 03:10:59,039
Speaker 1: I don't know that music enough anything that I want

2995
03:10:59,120 --> 03:11:02,840
Speaker 1: to put sick my teeth into. I'm really having to

2996
03:11:03,360 --> 03:11:06,160
Speaker 1: master it and understand it and know it so that

2997
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:08,320
Speaker 1: when I get on them ones, I know where to

2998
03:11:08,400 --> 03:11:08,640
Speaker 1: take you.

2999
03:11:09,120 --> 03:11:11,120
Speaker 5: All right, what else you got your notes?

3000
03:11:11,200 --> 03:11:14,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's listen all let's see. Yeah, I'll make sure

3001
03:11:14,879 --> 03:11:17,360
Speaker 1: we get every data. Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly.

3002
03:11:17,959 --> 03:11:20,640
Speaker 7: Oh, let me just.

3003
03:11:22,280 --> 03:11:27,080
Speaker 1: I want to make this clear. There are so many

3004
03:11:27,160 --> 03:11:33,039
Speaker 1: DJ techniques that has that has happened, and I want

3005
03:11:33,080 --> 03:11:41,840
Speaker 1: to make sure people truly understand DJ's played turntable is

3006
03:11:41,879 --> 03:11:44,040
Speaker 1: the right way. I don't know how to play that way.

3007
03:11:46,000 --> 03:11:52,000
Speaker 1: I played DJs, I played the wrong way. So there

3008
03:11:52,080 --> 03:11:55,720
Speaker 1: are some of the DJ techniques that I didn't create.

3009
03:11:56,200 --> 03:11:58,840
Speaker 1: There's a few that was a great creative by me.

3010
03:11:58,959 --> 03:12:02,160
Speaker 1: Because everything that's going to last has to be taken

3011
03:12:02,200 --> 03:12:05,760
Speaker 1: to another level. There's incredible DJs out there. What I'm

3012
03:12:05,840 --> 03:12:13,720
Speaker 1: trying to say to the world. Is the actual the

3013
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:20,640
Speaker 1: mechanics of this putting your fingertips on the vinyl, where

3014
03:12:20,680 --> 03:12:25,320
Speaker 1: the vinyl has two purposes, the sound source and also

3015
03:12:25,680 --> 03:12:31,840
Speaker 1: used as a controller, your other hand on the fader,

3016
03:12:32,720 --> 03:12:37,119
Speaker 1: and the opening and closing the circuits. If you look

3017
03:12:37,200 --> 03:12:44,440
Speaker 1: at any DJ playing, he is using the mechanics the

3018
03:12:44,600 --> 03:12:55,120
Speaker 1: how too hands, whether you're going counterclockwise, forward and back,

3019
03:12:56,120 --> 03:13:02,480
Speaker 1: you're opening and closing the fader. These mechanics all what

3020
03:13:02,600 --> 03:13:07,920
Speaker 1: I invented. That is the quick mix theory that I

3021
03:13:08,000 --> 03:13:11,640
Speaker 1: want people to understand, the mechanics, the how to the

3022
03:13:11,800 --> 03:13:15,200
Speaker 1: fundamentals of what it is. I don't know how to

3023
03:13:15,280 --> 03:13:19,680
Speaker 1: play where they're putting the needle down. I don't know

3024
03:13:19,800 --> 03:13:22,800
Speaker 1: how to do. That is why I took three years

3025
03:13:22,840 --> 03:13:27,880
Speaker 1: of my life to reinvent DJ in the mechanics. And

3026
03:13:28,000 --> 03:13:30,640
Speaker 1: this led to the rapper, and this led to the producer,

3027
03:13:30,959 --> 03:13:33,480
Speaker 1: and this led to the big business that we are at.

3028
03:13:35,160 --> 03:13:35,520
Speaker 7: Right now.

3029
03:13:37,000 --> 03:13:45,840
Speaker 2: That's crazy, And they fact checked they said that in fact,

3030
03:13:45,959 --> 03:13:47,360
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson is a DJ.

3031
03:13:47,879 --> 03:13:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh you the checks, Yes, Google, Can I ask you

3032
03:13:52,520 --> 03:13:52,920
Speaker 1: a question?

3033
03:13:53,240 --> 03:13:56,640
Speaker 7: Okay? But before you do that, can I just can

3034
03:13:56,680 --> 03:13:57,640
Speaker 7: I just shout out some people?

3035
03:13:57,680 --> 03:14:03,920
Speaker 1: Please, let's go let's go. These people I'm going to

3036
03:14:04,680 --> 03:14:11,760
Speaker 1: talk about made hip Hop, Bic Business, Doctor Dre kg,

3037
03:14:12,120 --> 03:14:15,760
Speaker 1: Jermaine Duprie, Diamond D, The track Masters, the beat Nuts,

3038
03:14:15,840 --> 03:14:21,600
Speaker 1: eaz Mo, B forty five, King, Just Blaze, Timberland, Dallas,

3039
03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:27,320
Speaker 1: Austin wyclef, Arthur Baker, DJ Scratch, Egyptian Lover, Herbie Lovebug,

3040
03:14:28,160 --> 03:14:33,440
Speaker 1: The Rizza, Molly Ma, DJ Tuk, Pete Rock, Rick Rubin,

3041
03:14:33,640 --> 03:14:37,960
Speaker 1: Warren g j as EJ, Kick, Capri, DJ Battlecat, The

3042
03:14:38,080 --> 03:14:43,520
Speaker 1: Bomb Squad, Kanye West, DJ Premier, Teddy Raleigh, Manny Fresh,

3043
03:14:44,840 --> 03:14:52,040
Speaker 1: Q Tip. Please to give me anybody for anybody that

3044
03:14:52,160 --> 03:14:53,840
Speaker 1: I did not say, because I know what you guys

3045
03:14:53,879 --> 03:14:55,600
Speaker 1: are gonna and I'm gonna get a help for this

3046
03:14:55,800 --> 03:14:59,320
Speaker 1: when this thing comes out. If I had two years

3047
03:15:01,560 --> 03:15:04,720
Speaker 1: to mention everybody, I would, But I just want to say,

3048
03:15:05,520 --> 03:15:07,640
Speaker 1: these people deserve flowers.

3049
03:15:07,680 --> 03:15:10,879
Speaker 7: What's your question, man? My question is you just showcase

3050
03:15:10,959 --> 03:15:11,680
Speaker 7: what the fader does.

3051
03:15:11,800 --> 03:15:14,400
Speaker 33: But the fader never existed when they just had the knobs,

3052
03:15:14,920 --> 03:15:19,040
Speaker 33: when there was no dual turntable action going on. So

3053
03:15:19,400 --> 03:15:21,440
Speaker 33: what was what's up the invention of the fader? Do

3054
03:15:21,480 --> 03:15:24,000
Speaker 33: you have anything to do with it when it was created? Okay,

3055
03:15:26,280 --> 03:15:30,920
Speaker 33: let's go back in the rabbit hole. The actual terms

3056
03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:35,640
Speaker 33: for the faders called the panometer and the round nob

3057
03:15:35,720 --> 03:15:36,879
Speaker 33: is called the potentiometer.

3058
03:15:37,320 --> 03:15:42,959
Speaker 6: Oh shitter, you please research.

3059
03:15:42,720 --> 03:15:45,800
Speaker 1: It, you'll find it. It's true. Back in the day, right,

3060
03:15:45,840 --> 03:15:46,920
Speaker 1: the cross fader wasn't there.

3061
03:15:47,160 --> 03:15:52,240
Speaker 34: We were doing to up and downs, up and downs,

3062
03:15:52,400 --> 03:15:55,600
Speaker 34: up and down, so we ups and down ups and

3063
03:15:55,760 --> 03:15:58,080
Speaker 34: downs with because the faida had to come into play.

3064
03:15:58,680 --> 03:16:00,960
Speaker 1: I've seen the fada coming a play when it was

3065
03:16:01,000 --> 03:16:05,080
Speaker 1: a company by the name of Gemini. The DAC two

3066
03:16:05,200 --> 03:16:08,760
Speaker 1: thousand X mixer silver Face. That was my first mix

3067
03:16:08,840 --> 03:16:09,080
Speaker 1: in them.

3068
03:16:09,320 --> 03:16:10,600
Speaker 7: And when I.

3069
03:16:12,600 --> 03:16:16,640
Speaker 1: Made that mixer at the industry stadd Mixer, I had

3070
03:16:16,760 --> 03:16:19,039
Speaker 1: been looking for someone who.

3071
03:16:19,000 --> 03:16:19,640
Speaker 7: Has that mix.

3072
03:16:19,720 --> 03:16:21,840
Speaker 1: I paid them any money for them. I'm saying it

3073
03:16:21,959 --> 03:16:25,160
Speaker 1: on television because it's a mixer that I brought to

3074
03:16:26,720 --> 03:16:34,520
Speaker 1: the world. Bring it out here FN. And then the

3075
03:16:34,640 --> 03:16:38,000
Speaker 1: first turntables was the SL twenty three's. That is how

3076
03:16:38,080 --> 03:16:40,840
Speaker 1: I created the seamless loop so that Cowboy and the

3077
03:16:40,879 --> 03:16:44,000
Speaker 1: Boys can rhyme, you know. So these are the things

3078
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:45,880
Speaker 1: I need to talk about. And the breakdancers. Can I

3079
03:16:45,920 --> 03:16:47,200
Speaker 1: talk about the breakdancers too?

3080
03:16:47,280 --> 03:16:47,600
Speaker 7: Of course?

3081
03:16:48,000 --> 03:16:51,320
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, let's go to the to the breakdancers,

3082
03:16:51,360 --> 03:16:54,920
Speaker 1: see the DJs, the Breakers, the Breakers, like the original

3083
03:16:54,959 --> 03:16:59,560
Speaker 1: Breakers were, they were black.

3084
03:17:01,680 --> 03:17:02,800
Speaker 7: And here's some of the names.

3085
03:17:06,400 --> 03:17:16,200
Speaker 1: Sasa, Tricksy Dancing, Doug Black, Jerry Easy, Mike, Flipping Mike,

3086
03:17:16,879 --> 03:17:25,440
Speaker 1: Female Breakdancers, Sister Boo, Mother Earth Janie. Then as years

3087
03:17:25,520 --> 03:17:30,240
Speaker 1: went on, it's where the Latins got involved, the Spanish

3088
03:17:30,280 --> 03:17:33,680
Speaker 1: people got involved. And here's some of the names rock

3089
03:17:33,720 --> 03:17:40,160
Speaker 1: Steady Crew, Dynamic Breakers, New York Breakers, Electric Boogaaloos.

3090
03:17:43,200 --> 03:17:45,000
Speaker 7: Here's some soloists, Future two.

3091
03:17:44,920 --> 03:17:49,080
Speaker 1: Thousand, Fab five, Frettie was a Breaker, Lady Pink Scene,

3092
03:17:50,040 --> 03:17:53,680
Speaker 1: Lee Quinnones. These are kind of people I want to

3093
03:17:53,680 --> 03:17:57,680
Speaker 1: talk about because they're part of the story of They're

3094
03:17:57,760 --> 03:18:04,480
Speaker 1: part of this whole move for me that she can't be. Yeah,

3095
03:18:05,320 --> 03:18:09,160
Speaker 1: and now we're right here, we drivingized cars, we living comfortably.

3096
03:18:09,280 --> 03:18:11,119
Speaker 1: So how did the fuck it should happen in the beginning?

3097
03:18:11,160 --> 03:18:13,400
Speaker 1: How did it happen? That's where I'm at.

3098
03:18:14,480 --> 03:18:16,160
Speaker 2: Have you ever went to a hip hop show? I'm

3099
03:18:16,200 --> 03:18:20,760
Speaker 2: been disgusted, like people rhyming over the vocals. They're not

3100
03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:25,840
Speaker 2: having no routines, you know, I think, Okay, you're talking

3101
03:18:25,840 --> 03:18:31,280
Speaker 2: about the performance aspect bad. I think It's extremely important.

3102
03:18:33,320 --> 03:18:38,040
Speaker 1: If you know your craft, know your craft with no

3103
03:18:38,240 --> 03:18:42,800
Speaker 1: net meaning you should not be rhyming over the vocal

3104
03:18:42,920 --> 03:18:47,600
Speaker 1: version right, because even if you make a mistake, that's

3105
03:18:47,680 --> 03:18:53,240
Speaker 1: what makes the performance so incredible. Like when jay Z

3106
03:18:53,480 --> 03:18:57,640
Speaker 1: was at the Garden and you tell the DJ, throw

3107
03:18:57,720 --> 03:19:01,240
Speaker 1: it Paul, it's the instrumental, he would say the rhyme,

3108
03:19:01,280 --> 03:19:02,640
Speaker 1: say the right, and he would stop rhying for a

3109
03:19:02,680 --> 03:19:04,800
Speaker 1: few seconds. Then he'll he'll jump back on. Just let

3110
03:19:04,879 --> 03:19:07,880
Speaker 1: y'all knows no net here. You know what I'm saying.

3111
03:19:07,920 --> 03:19:11,560
Speaker 1: So for me, you know something or you know what

3112
03:19:11,640 --> 03:19:14,480
Speaker 1: I what I would love to see if one of

3113
03:19:14,560 --> 03:19:18,560
Speaker 1: these newer rappers wrapped on one of them breaks.

3114
03:19:19,879 --> 03:19:20,840
Speaker 7: No, they won't.

3115
03:19:22,040 --> 03:19:24,400
Speaker 1: That would be because some of them, some of the

3116
03:19:24,520 --> 03:19:28,920
Speaker 1: rappers say they're incredible, But to see, like I love

3117
03:19:29,040 --> 03:19:33,080
Speaker 1: to see. I love to get Drake on a break.

3118
03:19:33,200 --> 03:19:37,720
Speaker 1: I love to get Nas on a break. Jay Z

3119
03:19:37,840 --> 03:19:39,680
Speaker 1: already knows how to do this. You know what I'm saying.

3120
03:19:39,800 --> 03:19:41,560
Speaker 7: Nas done it, Nas has done it.

3121
03:19:41,600 --> 03:19:43,280
Speaker 33: I don't know about a lot of footage, but I

3122
03:19:43,400 --> 03:19:45,920
Speaker 33: know Nass wrapped over breaks Drake would be dope.

3123
03:19:46,160 --> 03:19:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, let it be yeah, back in then

3124
03:19:51,720 --> 03:19:56,880
Speaker 1: break down like, uh, what's his name?

3125
03:19:57,120 --> 03:19:57,680
Speaker 7: Redman and.

3126
03:19:59,320 --> 03:20:04,160
Speaker 1: Method Man l a cool Jay's thing them with the DJ,

3127
03:20:04,879 --> 03:20:07,040
Speaker 1: I said, Pucker was pulling that ship down and throwing

3128
03:20:07,080 --> 03:20:09,600
Speaker 1: it back in and rubbing in and it was I'm

3129
03:20:09,680 --> 03:20:13,000
Speaker 1: like that there, And I walked up to him and

3130
03:20:13,120 --> 03:20:17,000
Speaker 1: I said, that was fucking hip hop with sure and

3131
03:20:17,080 --> 03:20:19,400
Speaker 1: the DJ was the name escaped me, Please excuse me,

3132
03:20:19,520 --> 03:20:24,240
Speaker 1: but they were so when you become one with your DJ,

3133
03:20:24,440 --> 03:20:27,440
Speaker 1: nor when you become one with no look like you

3134
03:20:27,480 --> 03:20:29,360
Speaker 1: ain't got the word. You ain't gonna turn around never.

3135
03:20:30,160 --> 03:20:31,800
Speaker 1: You know that when you said what you say, he

3136
03:20:31,920 --> 03:20:33,680
Speaker 1: gonna do what he do, he got you a.

3137
03:20:33,720 --> 03:20:36,959
Speaker 30: Little forwards works, you know, doing the pull a painted

3138
03:20:37,000 --> 03:20:38,920
Speaker 30: down for one ball pulp and bring it back and

3139
03:20:39,040 --> 03:20:39,800
Speaker 30: you know how to do it.

3140
03:20:40,320 --> 03:20:40,920
Speaker 1: That's hip hop.

3141
03:20:42,959 --> 03:20:45,879
Speaker 33: That's when like the DJ's name was always first Eric

3142
03:20:45,959 --> 03:20:48,119
Speaker 33: B and Rock Cam, Jazzy Jeff in the Fresh Pins.

3143
03:20:50,480 --> 03:20:52,600
Speaker 1: You know that. Yeah, I think I think. I think

3144
03:20:52,640 --> 03:20:55,600
Speaker 1: it's an injustice to people who paid forty dollars to

3145
03:20:55,720 --> 03:20:57,640
Speaker 1: come in and say a hundred dollars to go see you,

3146
03:20:58,080 --> 03:20:59,920
Speaker 1: to talk to rhyme over your tour.

3147
03:21:00,440 --> 03:21:02,320
Speaker 33: Yeah, now you're just getting the parents, but you're not

3148
03:21:02,320 --> 03:21:03,120
Speaker 33: getting a performance.

3149
03:21:03,200 --> 03:21:05,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not it's not it's not fair.

3150
03:21:06,000 --> 03:21:08,400
Speaker 5: Some people call it lip sync and it's lazy, even

3151
03:21:08,440 --> 03:21:13,640
Speaker 5: though it's not. Some people yea lipsticking my motive vocals.

3152
03:21:13,720 --> 03:21:16,720
Speaker 1: I think that rapp should run to the instrumental of

3153
03:21:16,840 --> 03:21:19,360
Speaker 1: the track and make a mistake if you have to,

3154
03:21:19,920 --> 03:21:22,000
Speaker 1: or add a new line in it, and I go

3155
03:21:22,120 --> 03:21:25,160
Speaker 1: back to the red do it, or go like put

3156
03:21:25,200 --> 03:21:26,560
Speaker 1: the mic out and let them say it.

3157
03:21:26,760 --> 03:21:30,000
Speaker 7: Like there's a lot of audience into your performance, and.

3158
03:21:30,120 --> 03:21:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy. You know how I found that out.

3159
03:21:32,200 --> 03:21:35,560
Speaker 2: I did it overseas one time, and and like I

3160
03:21:35,640 --> 03:21:38,039
Speaker 2: had to do like an hour show. And at the time,

3161
03:21:38,120 --> 03:21:39,720
Speaker 2: all I was doing was like like you know, the

3162
03:21:39,800 --> 03:21:42,160
Speaker 2: hats or whatever. So but over there they wanted it

3163
03:21:42,320 --> 03:21:44,320
Speaker 2: was in the contract an hour show, so like you

3164
03:21:44,400 --> 03:21:47,440
Speaker 2: know in America that I'll do, you know. And as

3165
03:21:47,440 --> 03:21:49,160
Speaker 2: soon as I finished, I was like I killed that right,

3166
03:21:49,680 --> 03:21:53,280
Speaker 2: and they're like, you had the vocals, and I was like.

3167
03:21:55,240 --> 03:21:57,120
Speaker 1: Like the hour. I thought I was doing like an

3168
03:21:57,160 --> 03:21:58,960
Speaker 1: hour and they were like, yeah, we liked it, you

3169
03:21:59,040 --> 03:21:59,520
Speaker 1: did an hour.

3170
03:21:59,680 --> 03:22:02,800
Speaker 5: But and I was like, I never did that ship again.

3171
03:22:03,760 --> 03:22:08,680
Speaker 1: I never did that in America. Whose school be to that.

3172
03:22:10,280 --> 03:22:12,680
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Your seasonal fuck around. They

3173
03:22:12,760 --> 03:22:17,360
Speaker 1: take they take this hip for miss aspect of this ship.

3174
03:22:17,760 --> 03:22:22,280
Speaker 1: They take this fucking ship deadly, deadly like we we

3175
03:22:22,440 --> 03:22:25,480
Speaker 1: we we take it banished because we here. You fly

3176
03:22:25,720 --> 03:22:30,560
Speaker 1: with that motherfucker's ocean and you land your ship better

3177
03:22:30,800 --> 03:22:34,480
Speaker 1: be tight. But they gonna let you know world up.

3178
03:22:34,800 --> 03:22:36,760
Speaker 2: I remember one time I was I say this on

3179
03:22:36,840 --> 03:22:39,280
Speaker 2: the show all the time. I went to do a

3180
03:22:39,360 --> 03:22:42,560
Speaker 2: show and the promoter he paid us and left, and.

3181
03:22:42,600 --> 03:22:43,640
Speaker 5: We're like, what the fuck?

3182
03:22:43,840 --> 03:22:45,920
Speaker 2: And he came back because he went and did a

3183
03:22:46,040 --> 03:22:49,760
Speaker 2: graffiti piece with our name component No, and he comes back.

3184
03:22:49,800 --> 03:22:51,040
Speaker 5: It's paint all over this ship.

3185
03:22:51,200 --> 03:22:52,320
Speaker 1: And I want to look at him and be.

3186
03:22:52,400 --> 03:22:56,960
Speaker 2: Like, it's not that serious, like but like, you know

3187
03:22:57,000 --> 03:23:01,800
Speaker 2: what I mean in America, he really literally showed us

3188
03:23:01,920 --> 03:23:04,760
Speaker 2: a piece that he they love you, we don't.

3189
03:23:05,120 --> 03:23:07,160
Speaker 3: I think that that's the one thing that one of

3190
03:23:07,240 --> 03:23:09,080
Speaker 3: the other things that I think needs to happen in

3191
03:23:09,200 --> 03:23:11,960
Speaker 3: this country is that we need to appreciate this culture

3192
03:23:12,440 --> 03:23:14,960
Speaker 3: because it's appreciated around the world. It's actually one of

3193
03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:17,560
Speaker 3: the I would say it's one of the biggest cultural

3194
03:23:17,640 --> 03:23:20,640
Speaker 3: exports this country has, and it's impact the world, but

3195
03:23:20,720 --> 03:23:24,320
Speaker 3: we're losing our grasp on the world because they are

3196
03:23:24,400 --> 03:23:24,920
Speaker 3: looking at.

3197
03:23:24,959 --> 03:23:26,480
Speaker 1: Us as sellouts to the culture.

3198
03:23:28,000 --> 03:23:31,760
Speaker 7: I had a person like I was coming out the back.

3199
03:23:31,640 --> 03:23:35,600
Speaker 1: Door, hey man, right of the concert, and this guy.

3200
03:23:36,440 --> 03:23:40,040
Speaker 7: He pushing through the crowd and he takes off his

3201
03:23:40,160 --> 03:23:40,920
Speaker 7: fucking shirt.

3202
03:23:41,360 --> 03:23:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, shits about to hit the fan, thought, just

3203
03:23:44,520 --> 03:23:47,480
Speaker 1: get ready to be a real mean one. He had

3204
03:23:47,600 --> 03:23:50,400
Speaker 1: me he had a picture of a tattoo of Medjing

3205
03:23:50,520 --> 03:23:52,800
Speaker 1: on his fucking back. I thought to my knees, like,

3206
03:23:53,640 --> 03:23:57,920
Speaker 1: whoa you painted no fucking back, life for life.

3207
03:23:58,320 --> 03:23:59,480
Speaker 7: That's there for life.

3208
03:24:00,959 --> 03:24:04,160
Speaker 1: They take that ship so serious, Like did you have

3209
03:24:04,160 --> 03:24:05,720
Speaker 1: a drink with them? You have to drink with this No,

3210
03:24:06,000 --> 03:24:11,360
Speaker 1: I just came drink them. I jumped to the car

3211
03:24:11,520 --> 03:24:14,080
Speaker 1: and was like just quiet all the way to the hotel,

3212
03:24:14,200 --> 03:24:17,840
Speaker 1: like this motherfucker And it looked like he wanted to

3213
03:24:17,840 --> 03:24:19,720
Speaker 1: start a fight with me and fight backwards.

3214
03:24:19,760 --> 03:24:27,599
Speaker 3: But fucker said, look, boom big, No, it's truly appreciated.

3215
03:24:28,200 --> 03:24:29,640
Speaker 7: It's a lot thing that what the fuck?

3216
03:24:29,760 --> 03:24:33,760
Speaker 1: I just yeah, you gotta sign that for me. Don't

3217
03:24:33,760 --> 03:24:35,040
Speaker 1: tell me you don't co sign it, because then I'm

3218
03:24:35,600 --> 03:24:38,880
Speaker 1: come on, because I sign the record. He walked in.

3219
03:24:39,000 --> 03:24:40,440
Speaker 2: He threw your record. Whatever the record you have?

3220
03:24:40,560 --> 03:24:44,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, my homie gave it to me with that. Well,

3221
03:24:44,320 --> 03:24:45,600
Speaker 1: you signed this one for me? I know you say

3222
03:24:45,640 --> 03:24:49,480
Speaker 1: you didn't, jus let me tell you why because we

3223
03:24:49,680 --> 03:24:51,640
Speaker 1: was already going. I know you said it and I

3224
03:24:51,640 --> 03:24:55,680
Speaker 1: already like this got record. Yeah yeah, but see you guys,

3225
03:24:56,120 --> 03:24:59,400
Speaker 1: you signed my figure. Jesus Christmas. What's that record?

3226
03:24:59,440 --> 03:24:59,560
Speaker 3: Though?

3227
03:24:59,800 --> 03:25:00,480
Speaker 2: You know gonna say it?

3228
03:25:00,560 --> 03:25:03,920
Speaker 1: What is it? He talked about? The other one was

3229
03:25:04,440 --> 03:25:05,600
Speaker 1: sugar Hill Record Label.

3230
03:25:05,720 --> 03:25:07,720
Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I prefer this.

3231
03:25:09,760 --> 03:25:10,280
Speaker 7: It's all good.

3232
03:25:10,720 --> 03:25:12,039
Speaker 1: We got a couple of the things for you decide.

3233
03:25:12,600 --> 03:25:15,360
Speaker 7: It's all good. You guys, enjoy yourself so far.

3234
03:25:15,680 --> 03:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Listen, man, this is we live in history right here.

3235
03:25:18,480 --> 03:25:19,080
Speaker 2: This is history.

3236
03:25:20,879 --> 03:25:23,080
Speaker 1: We want to just say this and I'll give you

3237
03:25:23,160 --> 03:25:25,400
Speaker 1: the question. Man. We wanted to do this for so long.

3238
03:25:25,520 --> 03:25:27,560
Speaker 5: Man, you're really you know what I'm saying.

3239
03:25:27,680 --> 03:25:30,080
Speaker 1: One this is one man, you know we want to

3240
03:25:30,120 --> 03:25:33,600
Speaker 1: do this. And March is eight years of drink jams. Yes, yeah,

3241
03:25:34,200 --> 03:25:34,960
Speaker 1: we can't believe that.

3242
03:25:35,600 --> 03:25:35,840
Speaker 11: Whoa.

3243
03:25:36,400 --> 03:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of like just come and go because

3244
03:25:38,520 --> 03:25:41,160
Speaker 1: it don't last. It's a lot of work. Yes, that's

3245
03:25:41,240 --> 03:25:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of world.

3246
03:25:42,600 --> 03:25:45,320
Speaker 2: But but but our platforms as big as a guy,

3247
03:25:45,360 --> 03:25:47,880
Speaker 2: whatever it is, it's always been for people like you,

3248
03:25:48,040 --> 03:25:51,160
Speaker 2: you know, because we are you know, I might I

3249
03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:54,200
Speaker 2: might be. I call myself a major label type of guy.

3250
03:25:54,320 --> 03:25:56,400
Speaker 2: He calls himself an independent type of guy. Okay, But

3251
03:25:56,800 --> 03:25:59,960
Speaker 2: besides all of that, our hearts hip hop. If you can,

3252
03:26:00,160 --> 03:26:03,240
Speaker 2: if you cut, you cut my skin, or you were

3253
03:26:03,240 --> 03:26:05,080
Speaker 2: gonna bleed hip hop. You know what I'm saying you,

3254
03:26:05,560 --> 03:26:07,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna bleed hip And that's really what it is.

3255
03:26:08,040 --> 03:26:10,920
Speaker 2: It's like we have these but it's the icons, the

3256
03:26:10,959 --> 03:26:12,840
Speaker 2: people who paved the way before, the people that can

3257
03:26:12,879 --> 03:26:15,760
Speaker 2: tell these stories like like like like even us asking

3258
03:26:15,840 --> 03:26:18,360
Speaker 2: about the party in Cedric and you're saying you haven't

3259
03:26:18,400 --> 03:26:18,760
Speaker 2: been there.

3260
03:26:18,959 --> 03:26:21,480
Speaker 5: Like it opens up this mysterious.

3261
03:26:21,080 --> 03:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Box of hip hop that like you know what I mean,

3262
03:26:22,879 --> 03:26:25,320
Speaker 2: Like Crazy Legs has his version, you got your version,

3263
03:26:25,920 --> 03:26:28,480
Speaker 2: Coohirk has his version. This band Bottle who got his version.

3264
03:26:28,480 --> 03:26:28,920
Speaker 1: There's so many.

3265
03:26:29,080 --> 03:26:33,800
Speaker 2: But the thing is it all all in this beautiful

3266
03:26:33,840 --> 03:26:36,080
Speaker 2: pot of hip hop. Yes, this is beautiful soup. It's

3267
03:26:36,120 --> 03:26:39,600
Speaker 2: in this beautiful beautiful whatever it is, it's hip hop.

3268
03:26:39,720 --> 03:26:40,480
Speaker 1: You you know what I'm saying.

3269
03:26:40,879 --> 03:26:43,440
Speaker 2: And when we get pillars like you would get legends

3270
03:26:43,480 --> 03:26:45,600
Speaker 2: like you would get I cars like you. It's like,

3271
03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:48,000
Speaker 2: I think, this is one of the most quietest I've

3272
03:26:48,000 --> 03:26:48,720
Speaker 2: ever been, And.

3273
03:26:48,800 --> 03:26:50,000
Speaker 1: It was you guys.

3274
03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:53,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't because I was quiet because I didn't have

3275
03:26:53,680 --> 03:26:55,760
Speaker 2: things to say. It was quiet because I was soaking

3276
03:26:55,879 --> 03:26:58,560
Speaker 2: up the knowledge. And as much as I've been I

3277
03:26:58,680 --> 03:27:00,959
Speaker 2: still learn things, like I'm they'll learn it so much.

3278
03:27:01,000 --> 03:27:02,800
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful to see you.

3279
03:27:03,160 --> 03:27:06,160
Speaker 2: Just and and then a lot of these people, you know, like,

3280
03:27:06,480 --> 03:27:08,280
Speaker 2: it's so good to see you in great spirits. It's

3281
03:27:08,320 --> 03:27:09,880
Speaker 2: so good to see you, you know what I mean,

3282
03:27:10,120 --> 03:27:13,920
Speaker 2: spreading the hip hop because so many people, like like

3283
03:27:14,040 --> 03:27:16,480
Speaker 2: some of your your statesmen, you know, they don't they

3284
03:27:16,520 --> 03:27:18,800
Speaker 2: don't open theyself up to people, you know what I mean.

3285
03:27:18,840 --> 03:27:20,760
Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, I'm a part of the

3286
03:27:20,879 --> 03:27:23,080
Speaker 1: royal family. Fuck you. You know what I'm saying. I'm

3287
03:27:23,080 --> 03:27:25,840
Speaker 1: saying so it's it's vice versa, like, oh no, I

3288
03:27:25,879 --> 03:27:28,640
Speaker 1: feel it's critically important that this, this, this, this this

3289
03:27:29,080 --> 03:27:32,160
Speaker 1: information gets shared because you know, once again Wikipedia.

3290
03:27:31,879 --> 03:27:33,240
Speaker 7: This is not on the internet.

3291
03:27:33,360 --> 03:27:34,880
Speaker 1: This is not a lot of this stuff that that

3292
03:27:35,160 --> 03:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I talked about today.

3293
03:27:36,640 --> 03:27:37,440
Speaker 7: Was not on the internet.

3294
03:27:37,560 --> 03:27:40,480
Speaker 1: Is because I didn't talk right, you know, and Bam

3295
03:27:40,520 --> 03:27:42,360
Speaker 1: will say the same thing. A Hurdles say the same thing,

3296
03:27:42,440 --> 03:27:44,800
Speaker 1: and Breakout will say that say say the same thing.

3297
03:27:44,879 --> 03:27:47,640
Speaker 1: You know. And it's wonderful to have platforms like this

3298
03:27:47,920 --> 03:27:51,320
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of new type platforms out there,

3299
03:27:51,760 --> 03:27:54,840
Speaker 1: So a platform like this to say, let us play

3300
03:27:54,920 --> 03:27:57,640
Speaker 1: honor to the people who did things that have passed right,

3301
03:27:58,840 --> 03:27:59,560
Speaker 1: it's wonderful.

3302
03:28:03,560 --> 03:28:05,760
Speaker 3: Before I think, I want to add to what Nora

3303
03:28:05,879 --> 03:28:08,080
Speaker 3: was saying, it's what I think is what we're trying

3304
03:28:08,120 --> 03:28:10,400
Speaker 3: to do was critically important to hip hop. I think

3305
03:28:10,520 --> 03:28:14,520
Speaker 3: right now most importantly is that we steer people away

3306
03:28:14,680 --> 03:28:17,600
Speaker 3: that the young generation that looks at at at social

3307
03:28:17,720 --> 03:28:21,879
Speaker 3: media numbers to dictate who are the leaders of the culture.

3308
03:28:22,560 --> 03:28:26,879
Speaker 3: This is why just just numbers in social media, that's

3309
03:28:26,959 --> 03:28:30,039
Speaker 3: that doesn't matter, because what taught us is I remember

3310
03:28:30,120 --> 03:28:33,720
Speaker 3: listening to artists speak about what was going on before

3311
03:28:33,840 --> 03:28:35,440
Speaker 3: I even understood what was going on. And you know

3312
03:28:35,440 --> 03:28:37,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like like, I'm not from the generation

3313
03:28:37,600 --> 03:28:39,360
Speaker 3: that you guys came up in, but there was the

3314
03:28:39,440 --> 03:28:41,960
Speaker 3: artist I was listening to, my OG's in a sense

3315
03:28:42,080 --> 03:28:43,640
Speaker 3: telling me, no, these are the people that I grew

3316
03:28:43,720 --> 03:28:46,480
Speaker 3: up on, so I respect them. Therefore I respect you.

3317
03:28:46,640 --> 03:28:48,680
Speaker 3: Then I dig in the crates I found out about you.

3318
03:28:49,040 --> 03:28:51,560
Speaker 3: Then you are you know who you are in my mind.

3319
03:28:51,920 --> 03:28:53,960
Speaker 1: We need to do that. We need to elevate the

3320
03:28:54,360 --> 03:28:55,320
Speaker 1: real leaders.

3321
03:28:55,000 --> 03:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Of the culture, not that social media or popular whatever

3322
03:28:58,879 --> 03:28:59,400
Speaker 3: dictate this.

3323
03:28:59,840 --> 03:29:00,640
Speaker 1: You You are the leader.

3324
03:29:00,800 --> 03:29:02,560
Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you so much, so much.

3325
03:29:02,640 --> 03:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Up man, Well, I got to give you my flower

3326
03:29:05,400 --> 03:29:06,240
Speaker 1: your flowers too.

3327
03:29:07,040 --> 03:29:09,600
Speaker 33: You know, you invented hip hop, you invented you invent

3328
03:29:09,720 --> 03:29:13,480
Speaker 33: hip hop, you invented rap music, and you invented turntablism,

3329
03:29:13,600 --> 03:29:15,400
Speaker 33: and that's what I've been obsessed with my whole life.

3330
03:29:15,440 --> 03:29:16,119
Speaker 7: And thank you man.

3331
03:29:16,280 --> 03:29:18,640
Speaker 1: You are incredible in them once baby, thank you man.

3332
03:29:18,800 --> 03:29:21,080
Speaker 33: But but it's just crazy that you actually it's actually

3333
03:29:21,160 --> 03:29:24,760
Speaker 33: surreal that you invented what we do in them turntables,

3334
03:29:24,800 --> 03:29:27,760
Speaker 33: and you invented rap music because it would be nobody

3335
03:29:27,879 --> 03:29:30,080
Speaker 33: rapping over the breakbeats if you wasn't bringing them back

3336
03:29:30,120 --> 03:29:32,200
Speaker 33: and passing the mic off the cowboy or whatever. So

3337
03:29:32,600 --> 03:29:34,320
Speaker 33: it's kind of surreal when you really think of that.

3338
03:29:34,520 --> 03:29:36,720
Speaker 33: That's just the dumb it down for the listeners like you.

3339
03:29:37,040 --> 03:29:39,119
Speaker 33: You are the number one inventor. I'm just gonna give

3340
03:29:39,120 --> 03:29:41,119
Speaker 33: you that. You know what I'm saying, you Thomas Citizen,

3341
03:29:41,240 --> 03:29:42,240
Speaker 33: So you know what I'm saying.

3342
03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:45,800
Speaker 7: I just want to say that not beating around the boat.

3343
03:29:45,920 --> 03:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Supposed to dude that invented the peanut. Oh yeah we

3344
03:29:50,120 --> 03:29:50,879
Speaker 2: have George.

3345
03:29:50,560 --> 03:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Warstone Washington car. Yeah, yeah, you like.

3346
03:30:02,000 --> 03:30:06,240
Speaker 33: So I got two questions and jumping around, but all

3347
03:30:06,320 --> 03:30:09,640
Speaker 33: your stories was in the Bronx. My question is what

3348
03:30:09,800 --> 03:30:12,119
Speaker 33: was your relationship with the other Burroughs. What was going

3349
03:30:12,160 --> 03:30:14,000
Speaker 33: on with hip hop? Did you was you tapped into

3350
03:30:14,120 --> 03:30:16,039
Speaker 33: Queens and Brooklyn and stan Island?

3351
03:30:16,240 --> 03:30:17,000
Speaker 7: What was they doing?

3352
03:30:17,120 --> 03:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Or would you even or you in your own little bubble,

3353
03:30:20,560 --> 03:30:20,800
Speaker 1: you know what.

3354
03:30:20,800 --> 03:30:21,920
Speaker 7: I'm saying, like what we did?

3355
03:30:22,000 --> 03:30:23,959
Speaker 1: You even know what was going on in Queens, Brooklyn,

3356
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:27,080
Speaker 1: steyn Island? Good question? Okay, and this is I think

3357
03:30:27,120 --> 03:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I said this earlier. Well, Hollywood did Hollywood. Hollywood would

3358
03:30:33,440 --> 03:30:37,440
Speaker 1: do five parties in one night. So what we started

3359
03:30:37,520 --> 03:30:41,720
Speaker 1: doing was renting a sound system that wasn't ours, cause

3360
03:30:41,840 --> 03:30:43,480
Speaker 1: that's what takes the longest to take it apart and

3361
03:30:43,520 --> 03:30:49,240
Speaker 1: no ship, renting a sound system, renting other DJs and

3362
03:30:49,879 --> 03:30:52,920
Speaker 1: hip hop groups. We would perform for like an hour,

3363
03:30:53,560 --> 03:30:58,480
Speaker 1: jump in a car go to Queens play, jump in

3364
03:30:58,560 --> 03:31:03,480
Speaker 1: a car play Brooklyn, So we knew what the five

3365
03:31:03,680 --> 03:31:08,360
Speaker 1: boroughs was doing. It's just that the major ones, which

3366
03:31:08,440 --> 03:31:14,480
Speaker 1: was hurt myself, Bam, breakout, a lot of us didn't

3367
03:31:14,480 --> 03:31:19,080
Speaker 1: move around like that. I definitely moved around to see

3368
03:31:19,520 --> 03:31:22,440
Speaker 1: who was going to be the next Kingpins in Harlem

3369
03:31:22,440 --> 03:31:24,920
Speaker 1: because they were right next door to us. And then

3370
03:31:25,000 --> 03:31:28,600
Speaker 1: from from there it went to Brooklyn and then from

3371
03:31:28,680 --> 03:31:30,120
Speaker 1: there it went to Staten Island.

3372
03:31:30,520 --> 03:31:32,720
Speaker 33: So all these ladys you see where they way behind

3373
03:31:32,760 --> 03:31:35,039
Speaker 33: the bronx, so they was they was had their own

3374
03:31:35,040 --> 03:31:35,640
Speaker 33: little movement.

3375
03:31:36,600 --> 03:31:37,520
Speaker 7: This is what I would hear.

3376
03:31:37,959 --> 03:31:41,840
Speaker 1: We heard the tapes and hearing the concess tapes, who

3377
03:31:41,959 --> 03:31:44,240
Speaker 1: was asking ourselves how the fuck is he doing that?

3378
03:31:46,160 --> 03:31:49,200
Speaker 1: That's how the world got around. When we got near

3379
03:31:49,280 --> 03:31:51,440
Speaker 1: town to plays like we want to see you do

3380
03:31:51,680 --> 03:31:56,359
Speaker 1: that live? Because on the mixtapes this ship sounded impossible

3381
03:31:56,480 --> 03:32:00,440
Speaker 1: to do. So that was like our audio flyer and

3382
03:32:00,480 --> 03:32:02,320
Speaker 1: that played a major role that allowed me to go

3383
03:32:02,480 --> 03:32:05,959
Speaker 1: to different boroughs and get an interest on we want

3384
03:32:06,000 --> 03:32:08,200
Speaker 1: to go see these motherfuckers do these ship live? And

3385
03:32:08,360 --> 03:32:12,680
Speaker 1: we did. So that's how we started to figure out

3386
03:32:12,920 --> 03:32:15,640
Speaker 1: what was buzzing in the other boroughs. But were they

3387
03:32:15,760 --> 03:32:18,560
Speaker 1: following the Bronx or day or they just they were

3388
03:32:18,600 --> 03:32:20,680
Speaker 1: following the Bronx because they knew what we was doing.

3389
03:32:20,879 --> 03:32:24,360
Speaker 1: They like, we was listening to y'all tape copy. You

3390
03:32:24,400 --> 03:32:26,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's how they figured out what

3391
03:32:26,600 --> 03:32:28,640
Speaker 1: we was doing. If they weren't able to make it

3392
03:32:29,280 --> 03:32:32,400
Speaker 1: to the Bronx, the tapes was the next translator on

3393
03:32:32,600 --> 03:32:34,840
Speaker 1: how we were doing what we were doing in the Bronx.

3394
03:32:35,320 --> 03:32:36,199
Speaker 1: So another question.

3395
03:32:36,280 --> 03:32:39,480
Speaker 33: A lot of people got their flowers yourself, cool heart,

3396
03:32:39,560 --> 03:32:41,440
Speaker 33: But obviously ban Boda was excluded.

3397
03:32:41,520 --> 03:32:43,320
Speaker 1: You think you should have been excluded this year due

3398
03:32:43,360 --> 03:32:43,920
Speaker 1: to what was going on.

3399
03:32:44,000 --> 03:32:45,920
Speaker 33: Would never exclude him? Now, let me tell you you

3400
03:32:46,040 --> 03:32:48,480
Speaker 33: didn't exclude him. I'm talking about the masses. I didn't

3401
03:32:48,520 --> 03:32:49,879
Speaker 33: see any tributs, not even.

3402
03:32:49,800 --> 03:32:50,240
Speaker 1: Right about that.

3403
03:32:50,400 --> 03:32:51,160
Speaker 7: Let me tell you something.

3404
03:32:52,120 --> 03:32:56,240
Speaker 1: I still don't know how that that case, let's call

3405
03:32:56,320 --> 03:32:58,960
Speaker 1: it that case, how it's going to turn out, on

3406
03:32:59,080 --> 03:33:05,080
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. But you can't deny history. I cannot.

3407
03:33:07,520 --> 03:33:10,560
Speaker 1: It'd be a big hole in this story if I

3408
03:33:10,720 --> 03:33:14,840
Speaker 1: took him out of the mix of me speaking, it'd

3409
03:33:14,879 --> 03:33:17,560
Speaker 1: be and if somebody would catch me out there okay,

3410
03:33:17,600 --> 03:33:19,680
Speaker 1: well when the gangs were around, what were you doing then?

3411
03:33:20,320 --> 03:33:22,920
Speaker 1: When on my line say oh, all the gangs was

3412
03:33:22,959 --> 03:33:27,440
Speaker 1: in it? No, bam turned him around. It's just he

3413
03:33:27,600 --> 03:33:30,280
Speaker 1: plays a major role in this ship man and the

3414
03:33:30,400 --> 03:33:34,360
Speaker 1: situation that he's in. I can't judge it. I am

3415
03:33:34,440 --> 03:33:37,920
Speaker 1: not a lawyer, I'm not whatever. Whatever, whatever it was

3416
03:33:38,000 --> 03:33:42,520
Speaker 1: and how it happened, he played a major role. He

3417
03:33:42,680 --> 03:33:49,880
Speaker 1: is a king in this culture, hands down. Last question, Blondie,

3418
03:33:50,920 --> 03:33:53,440
Speaker 1: how did you meet her? Was she the first female rapper?

3419
03:33:53,879 --> 03:33:56,000
Speaker 1: What was the whole thing with Blondie? Shatrock was the

3420
03:33:56,040 --> 03:34:00,400
Speaker 1: first film? No, I know how that went down. Fam

3421
03:34:00,480 --> 03:34:03,480
Speaker 1: Pire Praider used to come to my parties and he says, Yo,

3422
03:34:03,640 --> 03:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I got some friends and soho. You know Blondie you know,

3423
03:34:07,440 --> 03:34:09,600
Speaker 1: and her husband. You know, they're good friends of mine, man,

3424
03:34:09,760 --> 03:34:11,400
Speaker 1: and you know, one day I'm gonna bring them up.

3425
03:34:11,640 --> 03:34:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, get the fuck out here. He's like, yeah, man,

3426
03:34:14,160 --> 03:34:16,400
Speaker 1: these are my friends. I'm like, really.

3427
03:34:19,640 --> 03:34:20,400
Speaker 7: He kept his word.

3428
03:34:22,320 --> 03:34:28,240
Speaker 1: She seen me and she made it absolutely clear to Freddy,

3429
03:34:29,959 --> 03:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to write a song about the way he

3430
03:34:34,400 --> 03:34:38,520
Speaker 1: does those things on the turntable. Freddie told me, I'm like,

3431
03:34:39,440 --> 03:34:41,800
Speaker 1: hit the fuck out here and all of a sudden

3432
03:34:41,920 --> 03:34:44,440
Speaker 1: in between, like when you record an album, you rest.

3433
03:34:44,959 --> 03:34:47,280
Speaker 1: You can record an album and then you rest during

3434
03:34:47,280 --> 03:34:48,880
Speaker 1: the rest perty people say, yo, you got a record.

3435
03:34:48,959 --> 03:34:49,640
Speaker 7: I said, noah, we.

3436
03:34:51,120 --> 03:34:54,879
Speaker 1: Be resting. There's some record with some women talking about

3437
03:34:54,959 --> 03:35:01,000
Speaker 1: cars and bars, and I'm like, what's And then when

3438
03:35:01,040 --> 03:35:04,199
Speaker 1: I heard it, I'm like, oh shit. She kept her word.

3439
03:35:05,680 --> 03:35:08,680
Speaker 1: She called sugar Hill and asked them can I be

3440
03:35:08,800 --> 03:35:11,680
Speaker 1: in a video? And sugar Hill said no, oh wow,

3441
03:35:12,200 --> 03:35:13,760
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you weren't in that video. I seen him

3442
03:35:13,760 --> 03:35:17,480
Speaker 1: and that's why the other one other person played the

3443
03:35:17,560 --> 03:35:20,080
Speaker 1: role in that. And I say this over and over

3444
03:35:20,120 --> 03:35:23,640
Speaker 1: again because what would have happened is and if I

3445
03:35:23,680 --> 03:35:27,480
Speaker 1: had got on that video, the DJ world would have

3446
03:35:27,520 --> 03:35:33,160
Speaker 1: went to the moon to Pluto because I would have

3447
03:35:33,160 --> 03:35:36,680
Speaker 1: definitely took that light. And I just said, yo, it's

3448
03:35:36,760 --> 03:35:39,480
Speaker 1: like five hunch of ball bus. Motherfucker's back home. Boom boom,

3449
03:35:39,520 --> 03:35:42,880
Speaker 1: boom poomo. This the holy shit mainstream mainstream boom.

3450
03:35:43,520 --> 03:35:46,320
Speaker 7: But she said no, So I never got on that.

3451
03:35:46,480 --> 03:35:51,080
Speaker 1: But I thank Blondie for bringing me into white people

3452
03:35:51,280 --> 03:35:54,400
Speaker 1: and Germany people and that other world I needed. I

3453
03:35:54,440 --> 03:35:56,039
Speaker 1: needed to get in that world because I didn't want

3454
03:35:56,080 --> 03:35:59,800
Speaker 1: this thing to just be just black or just Latin.

3455
03:36:00,000 --> 03:36:01,640
Speaker 1: What year was that though, I'm just trying to like

3456
03:36:01,680 --> 03:36:04,959
Speaker 1: put it in. Shot Rocks, shot Rock with the seventies,

3457
03:36:05,000 --> 03:36:08,840
Speaker 1: so brodid yeah, early eighties. Yeah, it was not you

3458
03:36:08,879 --> 03:36:10,720
Speaker 1: know when we're making records now, we're in the record

3459
03:36:10,760 --> 03:36:13,400
Speaker 1: business now. Is that close to when I was Philo

3460
03:36:14,600 --> 03:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Walstole Probably was a few years back from that from that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3461
03:36:19,600 --> 03:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Shout out and shout out to Charlie with that man

3462
03:36:21,440 --> 03:36:23,960
Speaker 1: to do, to come in and do what he did.

3463
03:36:24,560 --> 03:36:26,040
Speaker 7: Uh, that was wonderful as well.

3464
03:36:26,200 --> 03:36:28,400
Speaker 1: And I can remember I was standing there all day

3465
03:36:28,440 --> 03:36:32,200
Speaker 1: waiting to get shot, and then started raining and Charlie

3466
03:36:32,280 --> 03:36:34,600
Speaker 1: had to return the camera back. It was a Sunday hit,

3467
03:36:34,959 --> 03:36:39,960
Speaker 1: return the camera back to the movie house Monday, so

3468
03:36:40,480 --> 03:36:42,800
Speaker 1: they had to drop me off home. We never got

3469
03:36:42,840 --> 03:36:47,920
Speaker 1: to shoot me. The shooting team, the producers team says,

3470
03:36:47,959 --> 03:36:50,720
Speaker 1: we got to use the bathroom. It shull come upstairs

3471
03:36:51,840 --> 03:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Cyprus Avenue on thirty A Street. The shooter says, you know, Charlie,

3472
03:36:58,800 --> 03:37:03,600
Speaker 1: who's a producer, why don't you shoot flash right there?

3473
03:37:04,440 --> 03:37:07,360
Speaker 1: Charlie says, right where? Because I had the kitchen and

3474
03:37:07,440 --> 03:37:10,840
Speaker 1: had a cutout. You can look into the kitchen from

3475
03:37:11,000 --> 03:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the living room and the counter was right there. So

3476
03:37:14,680 --> 03:37:18,960
Speaker 1: the shooter says, let's shoot flash right there. Charlie says,

3477
03:37:19,040 --> 03:37:20,800
Speaker 1: this is not gonna work. He says, yes, it could work.

3478
03:37:21,160 --> 03:37:23,000
Speaker 7: So they shut up. Shout up all the cameras.

3479
03:37:23,760 --> 03:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I cut bondi gras and that came one of the

3480
03:37:27,440 --> 03:37:33,119
Speaker 1: biggest scenes in the whole the whole movie. So shout

3481
03:37:33,160 --> 03:37:36,800
Speaker 1: out to Charlie, you know. And that's another story that

3482
03:37:36,840 --> 03:37:39,240
Speaker 1: needs to be one of the first representations on film, right,

3483
03:37:39,520 --> 03:37:42,480
Speaker 1: absolutely the first, absolutely the first. And he can't enough

3484
03:37:42,520 --> 03:37:44,800
Speaker 1: to come into the Bronx and film us. You know,

3485
03:37:45,640 --> 03:37:48,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a wonderful thing. And with fifty years from now,

3486
03:37:48,720 --> 03:37:51,600
Speaker 1: the kid's gonna look at this and they're gonna say,

3487
03:37:52,160 --> 03:37:55,880
Speaker 1: oh shit, they came back and looked, you know, because

3488
03:37:55,920 --> 03:38:00,200
Speaker 1: it's like you said, either we allow the powers that

3489
03:38:00,400 --> 03:38:06,840
Speaker 1: be to rewrite the narrative or you go find that

3490
03:38:06,920 --> 03:38:09,040
Speaker 1: people who wrote the narrative and let them tell you

3491
03:38:09,520 --> 03:38:13,840
Speaker 1: the narrative. And that makes this place, this thing you

3492
03:38:13,959 --> 03:38:17,120
Speaker 1: guys are doing. Thanks so wonderful, Thank you soul.

3493
03:38:17,240 --> 03:38:22,400
Speaker 2: So a director comes to you, see for lack of

3494
03:38:22,760 --> 03:38:26,640
Speaker 2: for the first person, I think of Opportuno and Antoine

3495
03:38:26,680 --> 03:38:31,880
Speaker 2: foul Quad Okay, together, it comes to you and says, flash,

3496
03:38:32,879 --> 03:38:36,240
Speaker 2: I want to do a movie about hip hop? Is

3497
03:38:36,320 --> 03:38:40,400
Speaker 2: this movie about you by yourself? Or is this movie

3498
03:38:40,760 --> 03:38:43,199
Speaker 2: the four people You've been naming this whole time.

3499
03:38:43,080 --> 03:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Always some four people, but it's not.

3500
03:38:46,160 --> 03:38:48,560
Speaker 2: Let me finish my question, because this is now we're

3501
03:38:48,560 --> 03:38:52,880
Speaker 2: getting the lucrative park. Go ahead, because they're saying, Yo,

3502
03:38:54,200 --> 03:38:55,600
Speaker 2: do you want a movie about hip hop?

3503
03:38:56,800 --> 03:38:58,920
Speaker 1: We don't mind if it's you or it's four.

3504
03:38:59,320 --> 03:39:03,600
Speaker 5: If it's you, you eat this whole bag, whatever this bag.

3505
03:39:03,560 --> 03:39:05,880
Speaker 1: Is, but you will.

3506
03:39:06,080 --> 03:39:08,880
Speaker 2: We can take the story for you from your from you,

3507
03:39:09,120 --> 03:39:10,720
Speaker 2: and you can break down these four stories if we

3508
03:39:10,760 --> 03:39:13,160
Speaker 2: can get it from you. Or do you want to

3509
03:39:13,280 --> 03:39:16,200
Speaker 2: consult these other two these other three people? Do you

3510
03:39:16,280 --> 03:39:17,960
Speaker 2: consult them? Or do you take the whole bag and

3511
03:39:18,000 --> 03:39:19,400
Speaker 2: say I'm another story position?

3512
03:39:20,200 --> 03:39:23,560
Speaker 7: No, I go get them and I split the back up.

3513
03:39:23,600 --> 03:39:26,200
Speaker 1: I have to, Okay, I have to because you know

3514
03:39:26,680 --> 03:39:28,560
Speaker 1: the reason why I have this, Because I don't have

3515
03:39:28,680 --> 03:39:34,119
Speaker 1: to complete, complete, complete, Yeah, I don't have that story

3516
03:39:34,200 --> 03:39:37,120
Speaker 1: I have. I have what I've seen in public, but

3517
03:39:37,480 --> 03:39:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't know Mom and Dad, their mom and Dad's story.

3518
03:39:41,280 --> 03:39:44,000
Speaker 1: I need I need that, and then we have our

3519
03:39:44,120 --> 03:39:48,439
Speaker 1: second tiers. They play a major role to continue to push.

3520
03:39:48,240 --> 03:39:48,720
Speaker 7: It as well.

3521
03:39:49,120 --> 03:39:50,480
Speaker 1: So I'd have to put back and say you this

3522
03:39:50,600 --> 03:39:53,280
Speaker 1: is what it is. All right, do we do this together?

3523
03:39:53,480 --> 03:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Do we not?

3524
03:39:54,120 --> 03:39:56,160
Speaker 3: I want us to sit down for free. And I've

3525
03:39:56,160 --> 03:39:57,680
Speaker 3: been saying this year for you guys, need to do,

3526
03:39:58,480 --> 03:40:00,400
Speaker 3: need to do. I would love for us to be

3527
03:40:00,520 --> 03:40:03,080
Speaker 3: somehow involved in this and to put the cameras wherever

3528
03:40:03,200 --> 03:40:04,320
Speaker 3: and just let us just talk.

3529
03:40:04,959 --> 03:40:07,959
Speaker 6: It's Mount Rushmore. Just call it the Mount Rushmore with your.

3530
03:40:07,920 --> 03:40:11,880
Speaker 1: Four This would be absolutely wonderful because I'm sure that

3531
03:40:12,040 --> 03:40:17,480
Speaker 1: our stories run parallel some way, or somehow it runs parallel,

3532
03:40:17,800 --> 03:40:21,320
Speaker 1: and then for you guys that are watching, it'll all

3533
03:40:21,480 --> 03:40:25,600
Speaker 1: come together like, oh, that connected to that, to that

3534
03:40:25,680 --> 03:40:28,240
Speaker 1: connected to that, and that connected to that, and that's

3535
03:40:28,280 --> 03:40:32,039
Speaker 1: why that is that and that's what you don't have yet.

3536
03:40:32,080 --> 03:40:35,640
Speaker 1: We don't have that story where we're all there. Pork

3537
03:40:35,800 --> 03:40:37,520
Speaker 1: is not well, but he's got a team of people.

3538
03:40:38,280 --> 03:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Bamits in a situation. He's got a team of people.

3539
03:40:41,240 --> 03:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Break out, bring yourself, bring my team, and let's just

3540
03:40:44,600 --> 03:40:49,760
Speaker 1: sit here and just have I like eight fish only

3541
03:40:50,160 --> 03:40:52,600
Speaker 1: this get me some lobsters and crabs and the ship,

3542
03:40:53,160 --> 03:40:55,880
Speaker 1: lots of that, and I'm good. We need to commit

3543
03:40:55,959 --> 03:40:59,720
Speaker 1: to that. We need to come in. That could be

3544
03:40:59,760 --> 03:41:03,720
Speaker 1: a chance presents the guy you got you got to be,

3545
03:41:05,360 --> 03:41:06,560
Speaker 1: but you got to be the gods.

3546
03:41:07,080 --> 03:41:08,560
Speaker 2: I want to comm into us trying to make that

3547
03:41:09,000 --> 03:41:10,920
Speaker 2: we definitely, but let me ask you right because me

3548
03:41:10,959 --> 03:41:12,760
Speaker 2: and if it is something that we have been saying

3549
03:41:12,920 --> 03:41:14,920
Speaker 2: since we started the show as well, is that hip

3550
03:41:14,959 --> 03:41:15,400
Speaker 2: hop can have.

3551
03:41:15,480 --> 03:41:17,080
Speaker 1: Our own union, right, you know what I mean?

3552
03:41:17,120 --> 03:41:19,400
Speaker 2: Other than all sports and all the all the other

3553
03:41:19,720 --> 03:41:24,040
Speaker 2: you know people entertainers other than boxing, hip hop is

3554
03:41:24,080 --> 03:41:31,359
Speaker 2: the only other like entertainment, uh form that doesn't have unions.

3555
03:41:30,920 --> 03:41:33,400
Speaker 1: And union when you mean my union like sag like

3556
03:41:33,480 --> 03:41:34,199
Speaker 1: a sag.

3557
03:41:34,040 --> 03:41:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like insurance saying you know, like a sad too,

3558
03:41:37,520 --> 03:41:39,120
Speaker 2: like a sad actors.

3559
03:41:39,160 --> 03:41:40,760
Speaker 1: You can let me do the question back at you

3560
03:41:41,040 --> 03:41:43,680
Speaker 1: would be what would be the duties of this union

3561
03:41:44,400 --> 03:41:47,880
Speaker 1: to take care of our people if you need. I mean,

3562
03:41:48,120 --> 03:41:48,840
Speaker 1: this is what I would.

3563
03:41:49,040 --> 03:41:51,840
Speaker 7: Okay, let me expand on that. I love this. I

3564
03:41:51,959 --> 03:41:52,920
Speaker 7: love this cool.

3565
03:41:53,080 --> 03:42:00,080
Speaker 1: If we can make a union that would put re

3566
03:42:00,160 --> 03:42:05,320
Speaker 1: lease our own if a person is in trouble. He's

3567
03:42:05,400 --> 03:42:10,840
Speaker 1: getting in trouble. Send him to the union. Like there's

3568
03:42:10,920 --> 03:42:14,879
Speaker 1: too many rappers. You can see them on their way

3569
03:42:15,000 --> 03:42:16,879
Speaker 1: to going to prison.

3570
03:42:17,800 --> 03:42:18,840
Speaker 7: From their own rights.

3571
03:42:20,640 --> 03:42:21,720
Speaker 8: We got right.

3572
03:42:23,280 --> 03:42:26,600
Speaker 1: The car crash. Before the car crash, let's grab said

3573
03:42:26,640 --> 03:42:29,520
Speaker 1: hello because some of the because some of these hip

3574
03:42:29,560 --> 03:42:32,960
Speaker 1: hopis may not have elders people around him and say listen,

3575
03:42:33,520 --> 03:42:36,880
Speaker 1: you know you're getting ready to crash. If we can

3576
03:42:36,959 --> 03:42:39,320
Speaker 1: police our own, a lot of the ship that happens

3577
03:42:39,360 --> 03:42:42,920
Speaker 1: today would not happen. That's just how I see it.

3578
03:42:43,120 --> 03:42:46,040
Speaker 1: We should police our own. It's a great, great idea.

3579
03:42:46,920 --> 03:42:50,879
Speaker 1: Nor hopefully before I leave out of here, I would love.

3580
03:42:50,760 --> 03:42:53,920
Speaker 3: To see Chuck Dee and Kris and I think Curtis

3581
03:42:53,959 --> 03:42:58,440
Speaker 3: blow they created something, and Kimming just well that's not

3582
03:42:58,640 --> 03:42:59,680
Speaker 3: that created that fund.

3583
03:43:00,200 --> 03:43:03,000
Speaker 1: But see, but what I love about what NAG is doing.

3584
03:43:03,040 --> 03:43:06,440
Speaker 1: I think it is absolutely wonderful. It's beautiful. I think

3585
03:43:06,480 --> 03:43:10,080
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. But there's so many people, that's the thing,

3586
03:43:10,760 --> 03:43:14,920
Speaker 1: that are much more needy. With Rock cam Worth that absolutely,

3587
03:43:15,080 --> 03:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Scott is worth that, absolutely, but there are three other

3588
03:43:23,160 --> 03:43:33,120
Speaker 1: elements of people that don't have that are struggling doing that.

3589
03:43:33,840 --> 03:43:37,000
Speaker 1: And if he'd had done it the full the full

3590
03:43:37,080 --> 03:43:38,720
Speaker 1: element way wouldn't.

3591
03:43:38,360 --> 03:43:39,640
Speaker 7: Make that ship so much.

3592
03:43:40,800 --> 03:43:44,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of unsung heroes that need their dues.

3593
03:43:44,640 --> 03:43:45,879
Speaker 1: And then the reason why I.

3594
03:43:45,879 --> 03:43:48,240
Speaker 3: Think SAG is such a good example of of of

3595
03:43:48,360 --> 03:43:52,320
Speaker 3: a type of union is because SAG is whatever you

3596
03:43:52,680 --> 03:43:55,080
Speaker 3: give to give into SAG, you get out of SAG.

3597
03:43:55,200 --> 03:43:58,680
Speaker 3: So that allows everybody at every level of hip hop

3598
03:43:58,879 --> 03:44:01,920
Speaker 3: to be a part of this union. Wow, SAG even

3599
03:44:02,000 --> 03:44:04,199
Speaker 3: has and I mean again, I don't know one hundred percent.

3600
03:44:04,440 --> 03:44:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm not a scholar. I actually just joined SAG recently.

3601
03:44:07,879 --> 03:44:11,280
Speaker 3: But they have housing for like be actors that never

3602
03:44:11,520 --> 03:44:14,480
Speaker 3: made it big in Hollywood that when they become homeless,

3603
03:44:14,520 --> 03:44:16,880
Speaker 3: if they become homeless, they can live in these homes.

3604
03:44:17,320 --> 03:44:17,760
Speaker 1: Thank god.

3605
03:44:17,879 --> 03:44:18,320
Speaker 7: Oh wow.

3606
03:44:18,520 --> 03:44:20,440
Speaker 3: But you know, as long as they their dudes were,

3607
03:44:20,480 --> 03:44:22,640
Speaker 3: you know, they had they were members cer certain amount

3608
03:44:22,680 --> 03:44:25,040
Speaker 3: of time. So I think that SAG is a good

3609
03:44:25,080 --> 03:44:26,560
Speaker 3: thing for us to look and I think that that

3610
03:44:26,840 --> 03:44:27,760
Speaker 3: the chuck them.

3611
03:44:27,640 --> 03:44:29,280
Speaker 1: Aligned with SAG in some way.

3612
03:44:29,640 --> 03:44:31,480
Speaker 3: I think we need some But the problem is is

3613
03:44:31,520 --> 03:44:35,200
Speaker 3: that it's such a big undertaking that you need someone

3614
03:44:35,280 --> 03:44:39,000
Speaker 3: that's well schooled in finance and banking and insurance to

3615
03:44:39,120 --> 03:44:40,359
Speaker 3: be able and nobody.

3616
03:44:40,160 --> 03:44:42,840
Speaker 1: Like we all talk it. Yeah, but to do the

3617
03:44:42,879 --> 03:44:46,480
Speaker 1: mechanics of that, that's it nothing to killer. Mike could

3618
03:44:46,520 --> 03:44:47,760
Speaker 1: do it. I love killing killing.

3619
03:44:48,440 --> 03:44:50,720
Speaker 5: I love kill them, killed them all the money, go ahead.

3620
03:44:50,879 --> 03:44:53,760
Speaker 1: I love killing Mike. Actually, when I've heard the name,

3621
03:44:53,760 --> 03:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, dam it's supposed to be a real motherfucker killer, motherfucker.

3622
03:44:57,120 --> 03:45:00,320
Speaker 1: I went to I went to a family of and

3623
03:45:00,440 --> 03:45:02,560
Speaker 1: he was there, and I sat down with this guy.

3624
03:45:02,680 --> 03:45:07,200
Speaker 1: This guy is off the hook, intelligent, like total, He's incredible. Man.

3625
03:45:08,560 --> 03:45:13,360
Speaker 1: I hope he was God. I hope he wins the Yeah,

3626
03:45:13,360 --> 03:45:14,040
Speaker 1: he's up for grounded.

3627
03:45:14,040 --> 03:45:15,160
Speaker 7: I hope he wins that ship.

3628
03:45:15,600 --> 03:45:19,280
Speaker 1: Intelligent jeim and really nice guy, really really nice guy.

3629
03:45:19,400 --> 03:45:19,520
Speaker 11: Man.

3630
03:45:19,760 --> 03:45:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if that name fit him. Don't killing Mike,

3631
03:45:21,560 --> 03:45:27,680
Speaker 1: but he's like nice Mike, you like that, you know

3632
03:45:27,720 --> 03:45:30,360
Speaker 1: what I mean? He was killing with the words calm

3633
03:45:31,320 --> 03:45:33,039
Speaker 1: Fano phantom except so.

3634
03:45:33,160 --> 03:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Let me s because you know I'm black, but I'm

3635
03:45:34,959 --> 03:45:37,320
Speaker 2: half perto weecan two right? What was the first Puerto

3636
03:45:37,400 --> 03:45:39,959
Speaker 2: Rican you ever seen in the in the hip hop

3637
03:45:40,600 --> 03:45:41,560
Speaker 2: or they was always around?

3638
03:45:41,600 --> 03:45:42,039
Speaker 1: Keep it Real?

3639
03:45:42,280 --> 03:45:43,440
Speaker 7: DJ Charlie Chase.

3640
03:45:45,040 --> 03:45:49,560
Speaker 1: The first Puerto Rican DJ ever see this see as

3641
03:45:49,600 --> 03:45:51,480
Speaker 1: you guys asked the stories.

3642
03:45:51,560 --> 03:45:54,519
Speaker 2: You know, to go from here to there. It's ludicris,

3643
03:45:54,760 --> 03:45:56,320
Speaker 2: Yes it is. We just had little Chris Is on

3644
03:45:56,400 --> 03:45:57,000
Speaker 2: the shore as well.

3645
03:46:03,200 --> 03:46:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, DJ Charnie Chase and the group he used to

3646
03:46:08,240 --> 03:46:09,440
Speaker 1: DJ for was the Cold Crush.

3647
03:46:09,879 --> 03:46:12,960
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Like he has a story.

3648
03:46:13,720 --> 03:46:17,040
Speaker 1: I know I've been knowing him for decades. Yeah, we

3649
03:46:17,560 --> 03:46:19,920
Speaker 1: church is ready to come on drinking. He lives in Orlando.

3650
03:46:20,040 --> 03:46:20,720
Speaker 1: We gotta have him on.

3651
03:46:21,320 --> 03:46:22,120
Speaker 7: You should have him on.

3652
03:46:22,600 --> 03:46:25,480
Speaker 1: He got stories. I only got a smidget of what

3653
03:46:25,640 --> 03:46:31,199
Speaker 1: he is. Only he could tell his story. And that's.

3654
03:46:32,640 --> 03:46:35,199
Speaker 5: Dominicans, he said, none of the Dominicans.

3655
03:46:35,280 --> 03:46:36,040
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta get him.

3656
03:46:36,040 --> 03:46:37,720
Speaker 6: No problem appreciated.

3657
03:46:38,560 --> 03:46:46,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, because yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?

3658
03:46:46,760 --> 03:46:49,039
Speaker 2: But now listen, man, let me just tell you man

3659
03:46:49,080 --> 03:46:51,640
Speaker 2: one more time, man, how much we appreciate this a

3660
03:46:51,760 --> 03:46:52,120
Speaker 2: lot of you.

3661
03:46:52,240 --> 03:46:53,560
Speaker 1: Man, This is what we do it for.

3662
03:46:54,000 --> 03:46:56,120
Speaker 2: You know, I called Scram Jones, I call my DJ,

3663
03:46:56,240 --> 03:46:59,360
Speaker 2: butch Rock who Scram Jones is my DJ. But you

3664
03:46:59,400 --> 03:47:01,240
Speaker 2: know they both kind of my DJs, and I wanted

3665
03:47:01,240 --> 03:47:03,480
Speaker 2: them to come in because I know how honored they

3666
03:47:03,560 --> 03:47:05,760
Speaker 2: are in the DJ for Fielder as much as I

3667
03:47:05,840 --> 03:47:07,400
Speaker 2: am as MC as honored to that.

3668
03:47:07,760 --> 03:47:08,880
Speaker 5: There's always DJs.

3669
03:47:09,080 --> 03:47:12,039
Speaker 2: They're the people that not only throw flowers at your feet,

3670
03:47:12,040 --> 03:47:14,040
Speaker 2: but they're even the ones that pick the flowers to

3671
03:47:14,200 --> 03:47:16,440
Speaker 2: throw your feet. And I want you to know how

3672
03:47:16,480 --> 03:47:19,440
Speaker 2: appreciated you are in hip hop and his totality, but

3673
03:47:19,640 --> 03:47:21,480
Speaker 2: in the elements of hip hop. That's why I wanted

3674
03:47:21,520 --> 03:47:24,480
Speaker 2: the other DJs to come and help me throw the flowers.

3675
03:47:24,480 --> 03:47:27,480
Speaker 2: And if you appreciate you are the Princess Munda. You

3676
03:47:27,600 --> 03:47:32,720
Speaker 2: understand I'm saying you are exactly you know, hip hop royalty.

3677
03:47:32,840 --> 03:47:33,200
Speaker 1: You are.

3678
03:47:35,920 --> 03:47:36,160
Speaker 16: I was.

3679
03:47:36,800 --> 03:47:41,800
Speaker 2: There's no artists in the world, especially a hip hop artist,

3680
03:47:42,800 --> 03:47:45,320
Speaker 2: that you should be able to call and they not

3681
03:47:45,480 --> 03:47:47,080
Speaker 2: answer you within twenty four hours.

3682
03:47:48,120 --> 03:47:50,080
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been blessed, and they do.

3683
03:47:50,200 --> 03:47:50,960
Speaker 7: And we don't we know.

3684
03:47:51,080 --> 03:47:53,160
Speaker 5: We know flash let's take let's give you flowers.

3685
03:47:53,400 --> 03:47:55,880
Speaker 1: We know that. But I'm just saying. What I'm saying is,

3686
03:47:56,000 --> 03:47:56,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much.

3687
03:47:56,840 --> 03:47:59,680
Speaker 2: If any artist is out there listening from a twelve

3688
03:47:59,720 --> 03:48:02,880
Speaker 2: year old artists to an artist that's two hundred and twelve,

3689
03:48:04,600 --> 03:48:09,200
Speaker 2: figure it out. If this man called you, drop your

3690
03:48:09,320 --> 03:48:15,600
Speaker 2: grandmama's pancakes out your mouth. You split the tick tack

3691
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Speaker 2: out your mouth, you unlace your Blissiyaga slippers, and you

3692
03:48:20,640 --> 03:48:21,080
Speaker 2: get to this.

3693
03:48:21,280 --> 03:48:23,880
Speaker 5: Man whatever the fuck he asks you for. If he

3694
03:48:24,000 --> 03:48:27,640
Speaker 5: asks you to eat a honeybug and your nose, you

3695
03:48:27,760 --> 03:48:28,720
Speaker 5: know you do it.

3696
03:48:29,400 --> 03:48:33,439
Speaker 2: If he acts you to clip your toenails with watermelon pills.

3697
03:48:33,840 --> 03:48:34,040
Speaker 18: You do.

3698
03:48:35,440 --> 03:48:41,440
Speaker 35: If he asks you to put oranges in your espresso

3699
03:48:44,560 --> 03:48:47,800
Speaker 35: and drinking his coffee mates, you do it.

3700
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Speaker 2: There's nothing in this world that this man should ever need,

3701
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Speaker 2: axe or want, And as long as drink Champs are alive,

3702
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be there.

3703
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Speaker 1: To help a.

3704
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Speaker 3: Drink Champs is a drink Champs LLC production and association

3705
03:49:15,920 --> 03:49:20,280
Speaker 3: with Interval Presents hosts and executive producers n O r

3706
03:49:20,360 --> 03:49:25,280
Speaker 3: E and dj e FN from Interval Presents executive producers

3707
03:49:25,400 --> 03:49:27,400
Speaker 3: Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg.

3708
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3709
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Speaker 3: Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

3710
03:49:35,280 --> 03:49:37,680
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs

3711
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3717
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3718
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Speaker 16: Mm hmm