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Speaker 2: Welcome into part two of the podcast with Nick Right.
Speaker 2: I do think one more injury and the Bengals have
Speaker 2: to draft another quarterback near the top, first, second, third round.
Speaker 2: I think that's becoming a reality. This is why I
Speaker 2: defended I said this today about Michael Pennix. Last year,
Speaker 2: the Falcons had no good quarterbacks and couldn't win a
Speaker 2: bad division. This year they'll have the two best quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and you're complaining about it, like sixty six quarters played.
Speaker 3: We're getting to it.
Speaker 2: We're getting to a point with Burrow that it's a
Speaker 2: real discussion you've got to have at least a b backup. Now,
Speaker 2: Brady didn't like it because he never got hurt with
Speaker 2: Garoppolo and big Ben. Similarly, Hey, I'm still I can
Speaker 2: still chug along. My injuries are fine. But I think
Speaker 2: Burrow is going to have to own this team needs
Speaker 2: a backup and not a sixth rounder, maybe a third
Speaker 2: rounder when we have other needs. So I think that's
Speaker 2: a real discussion that Joe and the Bengals have to have.
Speaker 1: For sure, you mentioned Pinnix, so I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: that because I want to talk about both those quarterbacks
Speaker 1: for a moment. I have not understood the tiny violins
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins that have been out. Yeah you know,
Speaker 1: do I here's the deal man, and this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound shitty and I don't mean it too, but it's honest.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is not good enough to get everything he wants.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If Kirk Cousins is good, he is
Speaker 1: not good enough to get so do I. I want
Speaker 1: to play in the worst division in football, no problem.
Speaker 1: I want to play in a dome. We can do that.
Speaker 1: I want to have another massive payday with one hundred
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Okay, we can do that too. I want
Speaker 1: to have a lot of weapons. You know what we've
Speaker 1: got that. I don't want to have any competition whatsoever. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Kurk can't give you that one, Like you don't like
Speaker 1: the He is good enough to get a lot, but
Speaker 1: not everything. And when you are something of of football mercenary,
Speaker 1: if you will, you have taken the money and moved whatever.
Speaker 1: And to his credit, there's a trade off and everything
Speaker 1: in life. One of those things is you haven't built
Speaker 1: up the equity within the organization for them to be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, he's gonna hate this. They just met you,
Speaker 1: like sorry, Like the there is and the person I
Speaker 1: feel for in this is Pinnix that like the if
Speaker 1: if if sports broadcasting worked the way the NFL does,
Speaker 1: And I'm coming out of Syracuse and I'm considered one
Speaker 1: of the three or four best in the world, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, there's this spot in this radio
Speaker 1: station in Las Vegas that might pick me that has
Speaker 1: openings all over the place. There's a radio station in
Speaker 1: Denver that might pick me that is openings all over
Speaker 1: the place. And then all of a sudden, I get
Speaker 1: picked by a radio station in Atlanta, and they're like, buddy,
Speaker 1: all our shows are filled up, but we think in
Speaker 1: two years maybe you'll have one. Be like, you gotta
Speaker 1: be kidding me. All these other places wanted me to
Speaker 1: play like I'm by the way, I went to grad school,
Speaker 1: I'm old, Like you're talking about me, like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get on the air till I'm twenty six. Like
Speaker 1: this sucks, and so I everyone was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: Kirk so disappointed. And I was sitting there thinking, like
Speaker 1: I get that he gets the money or whatever, but
Speaker 1: pinnis that differences me to being the eighth pick. The
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick is not a ton of money. He was
Speaker 1: gonna be get first round guaranteed money no matter what,
Speaker 1: and now he's got to sit so and again, maybe
Speaker 1: it ends up being good for him, and he's in
Speaker 1: a dome and he has the weapons. But if we're
Speaker 1: gonna feel badly for either of these two quarterbacks, it's
Speaker 1: not the guy who just left his team got one
Speaker 1: hundred million bucks coming off in Achilles. It's not him
Speaker 1: that I feel badly for it. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: would say Kirk cousins. And there's people like this in
Speaker 1: every industry has monetized his position to the highest possible levels.
Speaker 1: Brady took pay cut, Tim Duncan took pay cuts in
Speaker 1: the history of football. Kirk Cousins has monetized his talent
Speaker 1: to the greatest level and deserves great respect for that.
Speaker 1: But to your point, Kirk Brady, yeah, Tom Brady can
Speaker 1: say Bruce Arians go upstairs. Yeah, Kirk Cousins isn't gonna
Speaker 1: say that to a right. That's the thing is, you
Speaker 1: don't if you the only people who get everything they
Speaker 1: want in their work life are the absolute apex best
Speaker 1: and if you are the if you are the very
Speaker 1: best in your field, you can kind of write the contract.
Speaker 1: If you are that still super valuable. But there's seven
Speaker 1: or eight people better than you, then you're gonna get
Speaker 1: most of what you want, but not all of it.
Speaker 1: And I just think that's normal. Like I it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't, And I'm an empathetic person. I can. I
Speaker 1: can cry at the good enough tweet, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Somebody put out a tweet the other day.
Speaker 1: It was like my dad wrote me these letters every
Speaker 1: morning before school growing up. I read it. I teared up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, like, I really think I'm
Speaker 1: an empathetic person, but I didn't feel a moment where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, poor Kirk Cousins. It's like, what because
Speaker 1: you don't want to because you deserve to not have
Speaker 1: to compete, and you're not even really competing, Like it's
Speaker 1: your job. You're really gonna have to screw up to
Speaker 1: not have it be your job. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: I have an interesting topic I'm gonna throw at you.
Speaker 2: So I'm divorced and my ex wife and I have
Speaker 2: a fine relationship. We don't talk much anymore, but it
Speaker 2: was always very.
Speaker 1: Cordial, respectful. Sure, so.
Speaker 2: I totally get that it's a roast. I totally get it.
Speaker 2: But I do hear the Giselle jokes and I think,
Speaker 2: to myself, that's a little rough for me. Like I
Speaker 2: thought about this.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he signed up for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought if somebody wanted to roast me, the
Speaker 2: first thing I would think about is I got to
Speaker 2: protect my kids, Right, That's the first thing I would say.
Speaker 2: That's almost the first thing I think about always is
Speaker 2: how is this going to land for my kids? And
Speaker 2: when I listened to the jokes. I thought a lot
Speaker 2: of it was hilarious, but I think I would have said, hey, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want you going after.
Speaker 1: My kids then, right, But that's but that's so here's
Speaker 1: the thing that but it's a roast. So I don't
Speaker 1: watch this is a I'm sure there's a word for it.
Speaker 1: I I don't watch roasts because there's a level of
Speaker 1: like that secondhand embarrassment thing is like something I really
Speaker 1: don't deal with. Well, Like there are certain times like
Speaker 1: that we were talking about Curb earlier. There would be
Speaker 1: certain moments in Curb where like I literally like I
Speaker 1: turn away, like I'm like, oh, I feel so even
Speaker 1: though it's make believe and it's someone else, something internally
Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable with. So a roast where And it's
Speaker 1: not that I don't watch roast because I'm offended by
Speaker 1: the jokes. It's because there are certain things where I
Speaker 1: feel so badly for the person involved that it makes
Speaker 1: me feel uncomfortable. It's why I was shocked it existed.
Speaker 1: It's I just was shot. Like I get why comedians
Speaker 1: do it to comedians, and I get why fringe. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be rude. I get why Pete Rose
Speaker 1: would sign up for one, like yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the spotlight it's a check, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I get those things. I
Speaker 1: don't under like. I was shocked that Tom signed up
Speaker 1: for it because it just feels like there's so many
Speaker 1: landmines and so much like you were saying, I didn't,
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, there there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: that seems like and I'm not really an expert to
Speaker 1: talk about this because again, like I didn't. I've seen
Speaker 1: some clips, so I didn't watch it because I just
Speaker 1: don't enjoy that. But it seems like there were a
Speaker 1: lot of people that were not there that feel like
Speaker 1: that was not fun for me or my family, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, all of it, and so I don't.
Speaker 1: I also was kind of shocks. I was like, did
Speaker 1: Tom admit to the flightgate in this thing? Was that? Like,
Speaker 1: like what, I didn't understand a lot of it? But
Speaker 1: he listen, he I mean he the What didn't surprise
Speaker 1: me from the coverage of it was that Belichick came
Speaker 1: off great. What didn't surprise me is that people said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that he came off great
Speaker 1: and did a great job. That that sound that checks
Speaker 1: out to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not I'm not blaming anybody for the
Speaker 2: Gazelle jokes. I just thought, ooh, that I would say
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was the one where I was like, eh, God,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: And I'm like you.
Speaker 2: I think Jeffrey Ross and Nicki Glazer are great at
Speaker 2: what they do. I I can't believe you have secondhand embarrassment.
Speaker 2: I suffer from the same thing. Like I don't like
Speaker 2: to see people bullied or hugely embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I would rather I know this sounds absurd. I so
Speaker 1: I take the subway every day, and you from when
Speaker 1: I pick up my daughter from school, I take subway
Speaker 1: home and the subway platform you go downstairs, busy platform.
Speaker 1: As insane as this sounds, I would rather slip and
Speaker 1: fall on the subway stairs then have the person in
Speaker 1: front of me slip and fall on the subway stairs,
Speaker 1: because like when I like, I don't really care, like
Speaker 1: I don't like I'm I'm not embarrassed easily for myself,
Speaker 1: like that's okay, like people saw me fall, I don't care.
Speaker 1: But for some reason the thing of like, oh, that
Speaker 1: person now thinks I was looking at him, they are embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I really really it makes me feel super uncomfortable, the
Speaker 1: second hand embarrassment thing, and so it's just yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just don't enjoy I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, this is an unbelievable anecdote
Speaker 1: that I'm about to give you. So Jamal Charles, who's
Speaker 1: gonna end up being one of the greatest running backs
Speaker 1: ever to not make the Hall of Fame. So you
Speaker 1: got totally screwed by the Chiefs while he was there.
Speaker 1: It's just an all time player. He's from Port Arthur,
Speaker 1: Texas and was my favorite player when I was covering
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the early twenty tens, and I was
Speaker 1: really associated with him because basically every time the Chiefs lost,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't know about you guys. I
Speaker 1: would have given the ball to Jamal Drells. More Brody
Speaker 1: Froyle is the quarterback handed off to the guy who's
Speaker 1: getting seven yards of carry, you idiots. So when I
Speaker 1: was in Houston and after Kansas City, Jamal was being
Speaker 1: inducted to the Port Arthur Sports Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: they said, hey, Nick, will you host it? Will you
Speaker 1: be the host of the event, like, yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: and be honest, this is great. And the guy put
Speaker 1: it on He's like, it's a roast. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: a roast. They're like, yes, it's a roast. But again,
Speaker 1: I'm even though I said I don't watch them, this
Speaker 1: is I'm like, okay, there's no comedians here, but Andy
Speaker 1: Reid is there. Earl Thomas from Texas is there, so
Speaker 1: his teammates are there whatever it is, and they're like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a roast. Like okay, so I'll you know, right,
Speaker 1: eight minutes of jokes is unbelievable. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever told the story publicly. There's a video somewhere. So
Speaker 1: I get up there and I am I think telling
Speaker 1: great jokes, Like one of them was God damn man,
Speaker 1: don't you I'm telling you this. Do not isolate this
Speaker 1: and put this on social media, I said. I turned
Speaker 1: to Andy Reid and I said something about how I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell the exact joke, but how his
Speaker 1: clock management style reminded me of my sex life in college.
Speaker 1: There was something. There was a joke there. You people
Speaker 1: can figure it out. It was a good joke. He
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I said, something about Earl Thomas and
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom whatever it is, and nobody's really
Speaker 1: laughing that much, but these are good jokes. And then
Speaker 1: every other person that came up there did not get
Speaker 1: the memo this was a roast. They got the memo
Speaker 1: that this was a toast, and no one told me
Speaker 1: jokes and everyone just talked about it, right Jamal Carls.
Speaker 1: So I just looked like the biggest asshole in the world.
Speaker 1: I started the thing. I'm just I'm just killing everybody.
Speaker 1: Then everyone's like, here's how Jamal's changed my life. No jokes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you've gotta be kidding me. You have gotta
Speaker 1: be kidding me. And the guy who did it, the
Speaker 1: guy who set it up, I'm like, I didn't get
Speaker 1: like misread the email. I was like, no, man, He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I told everyone it was a roast,
Speaker 1: but whatever, they didn't go with it. So I just
Speaker 1: looked like the worst guy ever. Like Andy I think
Speaker 1: was legitimately Matt because Andy's and Andy and I are
Speaker 1: really cool now. But Andy, when I then introduced him
Speaker 1: after the joke, he came over and maybe it's just
Speaker 1: how he shakes hands, and he is a big guy,
Speaker 1: but it was not like a firm handshake. It was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt your hand with this handshake, you smart
Speaker 1: ass kid making fun of my clock management. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's why I don't like roasts, because one of the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing nights of my life was me thinking I
Speaker 1: was at a roast and it was actually a toast
Speaker 1: and I just looked like a bad guy.
Speaker 2: That is an all time story.
Speaker 1: You can include that, I know. I said, don't put
Speaker 1: it on social media. You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Just maybe try to about the sex life in college thing.
Speaker 1: I have an image to uphold, but go ahead. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that is a real story. That's a true story.
Speaker 2: So we'll end on this. So Austin Rivers came out
Speaker 2: and said I could pick thirty NBA players and play
Speaker 2: in the NFL. JJ Watt fired back, and I said,
Speaker 2: today there are sports, and the NBA is included in this. Tennis, golf, baseball, basketball.
Speaker 2: There is a skill level that erodes very quickly if
Speaker 2: you don't stay on it. If you don't hit a
Speaker 2: baseball for two months, you're cooked. You're cooked. Basketball. When
Speaker 2: I was playing high school basketball into college every day.
Speaker 2: If I took a week off, my ball handling wasn't
Speaker 2: quite as good. And NFL is the one sport where
Speaker 2: you don't have to play college and you can be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame Antonio Gates. It's not a repetitive sport.
Speaker 2: Is in some instances mechanics for quarterback, yes, you're kicking, yes,
Speaker 2: But a lot of it is strength, brutality, physicality and
Speaker 2: raw at more than, yes, more than any other sport football,
Speaker 2: which is why so many of us play high school
Speaker 2: football and so many people participate. You can be big,
Speaker 2: you don't have to be fast. You can be a guard.
Speaker 2: You can only be able to kick, you can be
Speaker 2: a punter. Right Like, there's a bunch of different stuff
Speaker 2: that said, I don't think basketball players have any idea
Speaker 2: how much getting tackled hurts. So if you ever go
Speaker 2: to the sideline of an NFL game and watch Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey get hit, you cannot believe he can get up.
Speaker 2: You cannot believe he's not severely injured. It is a
Speaker 2: car wreck on every tackle, So you should watch. I mean, well,
Speaker 2: you obviously know these guys. How Elong's can kids you
Speaker 2: know Chris and Jake long. You know, so they have
Speaker 2: a podcast green Light and by the way, you own
Speaker 2: a podcast business or an audio business, you like.
Speaker 1: I think, I think they are great. I think Chris
Speaker 1: is Chris did. He tweeted, he said, emergency rant coming
Speaker 1: on Austin Rivers and Colin. When I tell you this
Speaker 1: is some of my favorite ten minutes of media in
Speaker 1: the last month. You have to listen to it because
Speaker 1: his entire take is that not that guys couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: but like because they're not good enough at football, but
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm gonna not do it justice. He's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Austin Rivers, you think you guys can come play football. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You got fifty three guys on the team.
Speaker 1: There's three massage therapists. Oh your body hurts, well, the
Speaker 1: massuse available at four o'clock. Why don't you get a
Speaker 1: lift in and shut up? Like you're used to that
Speaker 1: in the NBA. He's like, Oh, in the NBA, your coaches,
Speaker 1: how do they talk to you? My coaches mf me
Speaker 1: and then tell me to go lay in a queen
Speaker 1: size Bettt training camp with another guy in my room.
Speaker 1: He's like, he does a whole thing. He's like, what's
Speaker 1: your flight's like? Because for forty of us, we're in
Speaker 1: the coach seats on a plane. When's the last time
Speaker 1: you His whole take was not you wouldn't be good enough,
Speaker 1: but that our lives are just different. Our coaches coach us,
Speaker 1: Our practices are hard. He was like, what happens in
Speaker 1: the NBA when somebody gets hurt? Do they cancel shoot around?
Speaker 1: Because in the NFL they move the drill, they just move.
Speaker 1: They're like guys getting carted off. It is a great rant.
Speaker 1: With that said, I came up with eight guys. I
Speaker 1: want to know. I didn't know you're going to talk
Speaker 1: about this. I came up with eight guys and their position.
Speaker 1: I guess it's seven guys, all right. So Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: could play running backer safety, I am certain of it.
Speaker 1: I am certain Anthony Edwards could do it. Young Lebron
Speaker 1: would be the greatest tight end in NFL history. I know,
Speaker 1: I know it's true. Westbrook could play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the position. Maybe ad drusher, maybe safety.
Speaker 1: Josh Hart I think can be a wide receiver just
Speaker 1: based on his rebounding this playoffs, Chris Long said, he
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna trust him on this because I never
Speaker 1: would have thought of it, but he played the position.
Speaker 1: He was like, I've been watching the playoffs. I could
Speaker 1: make Jalen Brown a pass rusher. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 1: believe you. He was like, he was like, he has
Speaker 1: great bend. He seems a little mean. He's like, I
Speaker 1: could do it. And then and this is gonna sound mean,
Speaker 1: and I am not being mean. I am simply saying
Speaker 1: he would have to put on weight, which I think
Speaker 1: he can, and then all of a sudden it would
Speaker 1: be a benefit. He has great feet, great athleticism. I
Speaker 1: think Zion could potentially be an an awesome lineman. He's
Speaker 1: six ' six, he obviously, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: can carry it big, like Jason Peters was a tight
Speaker 1: end that went to it. So I do think where
Speaker 1: I think Austin Rivers had a current of accuracy is
Speaker 1: there are certainly more NBA guys that the There are
Speaker 1: probably five NBA guys that could be good NFL players,
Speaker 1: like good, like, hey, give me a year to train
Speaker 1: be a good NFL player. And I don't know that
Speaker 1: there's any NFL guys that could be really good NBA
Speaker 1: players because, like you said, your skill has atrophied. And
Speaker 1: if you're not over six ' six, it's all about skill,
Speaker 1: it's you know what I mean like And there's nobody
Speaker 1: that's six ten in the NFL to begin with.
Speaker 2: So I think the list you made would be shorter.
Speaker 2: But to give you an example, I think because football
Speaker 2: players are so thick, we forget how big they are.
Speaker 2: Go look at the video of Micah Parsons without his
Speaker 2: shirt on this week. He makes Aunt Edwards look like me.
Speaker 2: He is so big. I'll give you an example. There's
Speaker 2: an old photo of Michael Jordan standing next to Barry Bonds.
Speaker 2: He looks like a straw. Is that remember Michael playing baseball?
Speaker 2: He looked like he was effaciated.
Speaker 1: Now that's that. That part's fair, That part's fair work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these NFL guys they regularly leg press five hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds. That is when you watch Micah Parsons
Speaker 2: without a shirt on. My take is and there are
Speaker 2: times he is in engulfed by Trent Williams, just engulfed.
Speaker 1: So that parts So people do we all have a
Speaker 1: like our brain doesn't process how big NFL guys are
Speaker 1: and how tall NBA guys are. Our brain doesn't accept it, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you see around the office occasionally, I assume
Speaker 1: my son because he works the lot. You've seen him there.
Speaker 1: He is almost always the biggest guy in the room.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's six three and a half, you know,
Speaker 1: probably two hundred pounds, maybe one ninety and in a
Speaker 1: room of regular people, he's an imposing cuts, an imposing figure.
Speaker 1: He is the exact same height and about ten pounds
Speaker 1: lighter than Steph Curry. And Steph Curry in the NBA
Speaker 1: looks like a little guy, and it's like, no, actually,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's the size of a bouncer at a decent nightclub.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I mean, like the and
Speaker 1: so we everybody forgets how tall NBA guys actually are.
Speaker 1: That the guys in the when you're watching the basketball
Speaker 1: game and a guy looks like he's average height, he's
Speaker 1: six seven, and if you worked with someone who was
Speaker 1: six seven, you would gawk at them. And you're right
Speaker 1: about how just the raw strength of the average NFL player,
Speaker 1: that part is unco questioned, unquiet, which.
Speaker 2: And just the end of the long Brothers pointed out
Speaker 2: the physical and mental toughness to just get tackled by
Speaker 2: the strongest people in the country over and over and.
Speaker 1: Over, he said. He said he was just talking about
Speaker 1: guys who because who would just get folded He said
Speaker 1: he was naming NBA guys. He's like, you get folded
Speaker 1: up by like one of those camping tables, like, oh
Speaker 1: you're seven feet tall, well to your four feet tall
Speaker 1: now because you just got told in half. It's a
Speaker 1: great rant. It is shout out to him. Man. I
Speaker 1: know you and I are two people, two of the
Speaker 1: ten people in the world who appreciate a great rant
Speaker 1: as much as anybody. And this was a great rant
Speaker 1: by Chris Long. I highly enjoyed it. I do think
Speaker 1: there are a few though. I think there are a
Speaker 1: few guys who could do it. I think I do
Speaker 1: think Anthony Amberts could play safety, because I don't think
Speaker 1: safeties are the size of Micah Parsons just flying around
Speaker 1: like a missile. I think you could do He's twenty
Speaker 1: two years old. I think you can play safety. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs just drafted to get in the first round. It's
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty pounds that guy do won't see
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards coming over the middle just doesn't.
Speaker 2: I'll give you Lebron, We'll stop right, okay, Nick Wright,
Speaker 2: as always, buddy, it's great.
Speaker 1: Absolutely talk to you soon. Comby the volume.
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