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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jetty and Pee arms Wrong, get Strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, outrage on Capitol Hill after eight suspected terrorists from

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<v Speaker 1>Tajika State and we're arrested in the United States, the

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<v Speaker 1>men who investigators believe have ties to ISIS crossed illegally

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<v Speaker 1>at the US Southern border. House Majority Leader Steve Scaliz

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<v Speaker 1>blaming President Joe Biden's policies.

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<v Speaker 3>How many more terrorists are in our country because Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden opened up the southern.

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<v Speaker 2>Border and Chinese intelligence agents.

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<v Speaker 3>More on that in just a second, But this hour

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be exciting. So Hunter's Stripper Baby Mama

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<v Speaker 3>has a book coming out. Joe Getty has excerpts from

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<v Speaker 3>the book That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shocking excerpts.

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<v Speaker 4>Jack, We will bear all when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 4>sordid life of Hunter Biden. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the insanity that luckily is making national news the subway

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<v Speaker 4>in New York where they announced anybody who's a Zionist

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<v Speaker 4>needs to get off the train now, and people chanting,

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<v Speaker 4>what the hell is going on? Did you say ber

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<v Speaker 4>Lin in nineteen thirty six?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>AnyWho this story should be getting more intention Eight dudes

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<v Speaker 3>with ties to isis arrested. Who would it would be

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<v Speaker 3>actually better in a way if they had snuck across

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<v Speaker 3>the border without encountering anybody. The fact that they did

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<v Speaker 3>encounter border patrol and.

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<v Speaker 2>Went through the process we currently have.

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<v Speaker 3>In place and still got into the country because they

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<v Speaker 3>barely do anything when they encounter you. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 3>is the They call it a vetting process.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the vetting process?

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<v Speaker 4>It's utterly insufficient, obviously, and so I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>a useful screw up. It's so ugly and clearly unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>It illustrates the fact that the border is so overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 4>The folks at the border are so overwhelmed. Any quote

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<v Speaker 4>unquote vetting they're doing is is almost hilariously inadequate. We

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<v Speaker 4>need serious change right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard.

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<v Speaker 4>I know if the vast majority of Americans agree with

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<v Speaker 4>us as well on that.

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<v Speaker 3>One of your terrorist experts was on some cable channel

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<v Speaker 3>the other day talking about the terrorist attack we've mostly

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<v Speaker 3>forgotten that happened in uh, outside of Moscow at that concert.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember watching the footage of that. They just ran through

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<v Speaker 3>the building shooting people. Yeah, somebody could put something like

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<v Speaker 3>that together in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope those were Tajiks too, weren't they. I did that allegedly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember where they were from, but they did

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<v Speaker 3>have the whole isis ties thing. And uh, hopefully it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be hard to get your hands on weapons, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That it would be. Oh in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you just go down to some you know, degenerate

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<v Speaker 4>blue city and wave some cash in front of gang

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<v Speaker 4>members and you'll have all the guns you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go a little more reporting on this before we talk. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>just more from that Fox report Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources say a majority of these suspected terrorists were found

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, where a democratic councilman says he's worried

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<v Speaker 1>there could be another attack in the Big Apple.

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<v Speaker 2>It's frightening and we're headed for another nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>I predicted that. I think we should have a secure border.

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<v Speaker 2>We should know who's coming into our country. We don't notable.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a democratic councilman. I think the problem has become

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<v Speaker 4>so enormous and so unmistakable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, look at the poll numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not surprised to hear Democrats speaking out a little

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<v Speaker 4>more forcefully because they hear their constituents howling for something

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<v Speaker 4>to be done.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this happens. I was just thinking, there's been

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<v Speaker 3>some examples in my life. I guess where there's a

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<v Speaker 3>problem clearly coming and you know it, but you just

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to deal with it now, or it seems

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<v Speaker 3>too hard or something, and then it happens, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, yeah, probably dealt with that earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an extreme example of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, obviously you can't just let hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of random men from the Middle East to come

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<v Speaker 3>across your border or China or wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's become so well known around the world that

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<v Speaker 4>anybody you want in the US just send them to

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<v Speaker 4>the Mexican border and say, yeah, yeah, they're killing everybody

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<v Speaker 4>in my village.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I need asylum.

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<v Speaker 4>And whoever whatever agent you want gets into the United

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<v Speaker 4>States and back in the homeland, they're probably the various

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<v Speaker 4>you know, war lords and ISIS leaders and Chinese intelligence

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<v Speaker 4>chiefs are probably saying, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>A minute, no, it can't be that easy. Stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>No country behaves like that. You have to convince. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the US just letting in anybody who wants to come in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really shocking. Yes, how about some mainstream media coverage

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<v Speaker 4>of it. This is NBC, which focuses on, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe things have changed, that whole executive order that Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Biden put through a week or so ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you know, they've closed the barn door. Finally, let's

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<v Speaker 3>see new evidence.

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<v Speaker 5>Migrants who cross the border illegally are still being released

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<v Speaker 5>into the US by border agents. A senior DHS official

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<v Speaker 5>tells NBC News those releases have dropped by more than half,

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<v Speaker 5>but are still happening because agents don't have enough space

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<v Speaker 5>to detain the large numbers of arriving migrants. An internal

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<v Speaker 5>mimic to Border patrol agents in San Diego, directs agents

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<v Speaker 5>there to release migrants into the United States. Overall illegal

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<v Speaker 5>border crossings under the new policy are still high, but

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<v Speaker 5>have dropped from four thousand to three thousand per day.

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<v Speaker 5>The record nearly ten million migrants entering the US since

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<v Speaker 5>he took office.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>But the Border Patrol Union says the president's new action

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<v Speaker 5>is not tough enough.

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<v Speaker 2>That's NBC News, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea that you could come apply to be somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>and you get to stay there as your probably phony

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<v Speaker 4>application is being assessed or the course of years and years.

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<v Speaker 4>This is very odd practice, like showing up to buy

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<v Speaker 4>somebody's house and saying saying, by the way, I'm living

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<v Speaker 4>here now. Well, you decide on my offer, I get

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<v Speaker 4>to live here, and if you throw me out, you're

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<v Speaker 4>the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just well again, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember we had the polling like a week ago that

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<v Speaker 3>a majority of Americans now favor a wall.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the majority of Americans, including independence and a

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<v Speaker 4>substantial chunk was that forty percent of Democrats are in

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<v Speaker 4>favor of deporting.

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<v Speaker 2>All illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>It is overwhelmingly popular which if you just if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to say, if we took calls, Jay, I'm starting

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<v Speaker 4>to get you. You know, I think Joe Biden is just

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<v Speaker 4>a He doesn't lead at all. He's just a prostitute

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<v Speaker 4>to whatever is his voters want him to do. He

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<v Speaker 4>just he has no principles, He's just Yeah. But his

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<v Speaker 4>voters want him to kick all these people out of

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<v Speaker 4>the country and secure the border.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, The wording from that CBS poll was, would you

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<v Speaker 3>be in favor of deporting all undocumented immigrant?

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<v Speaker 2>Which was has.

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<v Speaker 3>Never been on the table, will never be on the table,

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<v Speaker 3>It would be undoable even if they passed it. And

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<v Speaker 3>yet nearly two thirds of Americans said, yeah, I'd be

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<v Speaker 3>all for that. How do you not read that in

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<v Speaker 3>the White House and think, oh, we are so far

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<v Speaker 3>to the left of America on this no wonder. We're

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<v Speaker 3>losing by thirty to fifty points depending on the question

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<v Speaker 3>on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue, and yet they're tied. Yet overall they're tied.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Oh, that's discouraging. I hate to end on a

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<v Speaker 4>discouraging note. You know, here's a tangent in the mood

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<v Speaker 4>for a tangent. I was thinking about this, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>this may be a poor example now because of what

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<v Speaker 4>I was just saying about the overwhelming support among Americans

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<v Speaker 4>for closing the border and having seen immigration policies, But

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<v Speaker 4>like in the early days of the Biden administration, when

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<v Speaker 4>just undoing anything Trump did seemed like the right thing

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<v Speaker 4>to do, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I driving at. I think.

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<v Speaker 4>There's way too much representation and too little leadership in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of government. In other words, just fulfilling the

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<v Speaker 4>whims of this constituency or that constituency, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 4>good idea or not, in a way that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have done in the old days because you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>known about those temporary whims of a constituency. Because communication

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<v Speaker 4>is so fast and easy now, you can have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sixty jackasses in your district mad about a good policy

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<v Speaker 4>because they don't understand it, and you'd be completely swayed

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<v Speaker 4>by that as a congress person. And I'm looking to

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<v Speaker 4>our own industry and you see it reflected in various

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<v Speaker 4>websites and news channels and stuff like that. They have

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<v Speaker 4>the ability now to track second by second when people

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<v Speaker 4>tune in, when they tune out what you're doing doing

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<v Speaker 4>when they tune out what you're doing, when they're staying tuned.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in Radio two, but we ignore it for various reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>But you become this like you're being jerked on a chain,

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<v Speaker 4>serving the momentary whims of the audience in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that seems like good business at first, but then it's

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<v Speaker 4>to me, it's like shoveling in sugar. That first bite

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<v Speaker 4>sounds great, tastes great and all, but you just keep

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<v Speaker 4>shoveling it in until you're sick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's how do I explain this?

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<v Speaker 4>Being in Congress has always been a balance between being

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<v Speaker 4>a leader and being a representative. And if your constituents

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<v Speaker 4>want something loathsome, stupid and unconstitutional, that's when you got

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<v Speaker 4>to be a leader. And I just I think we've

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<v Speaker 4>got too much representative and not enough leader in our politics.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 5>The Armstrong and Getty Show, Rhoe podcasts and Our Hot

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<v Speaker 5>Lakes and.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong Congetti Show.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from a guy I don't know, journalist in Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>A dude. Nobody on the left knows how to speak

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<v Speaker 3>to young men because every five seconds this has why

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<v Speaker 3>so many young men voted for Trump and are moving

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<v Speaker 3>away from the Democratic Party, where the younger people used

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<v Speaker 3>to all flock to the Democrats. Nobody on the left

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<v Speaker 3>knows how to speak to young men, because every five

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<v Speaker 3>seconds at a leftist meeting, you have to either do

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<v Speaker 3>a land acknowledgment or go around in a circle and

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<v Speaker 3>pay homage to the power of queer joy or some crap.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually says, yes, it's briefly.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this because I used to be a socialist,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is how all these organizations act. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>all this with my own eyes. You have to literally

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<v Speaker 3>be self flagellating to be in the left as a

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<v Speaker 3>young man these days, and this is probably the understanding

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<v Speaker 3>and experience in perspective of ninety percent of young men.

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<v Speaker 3>The feeling is that you have to always constantly apologize

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<v Speaker 3>for effing existing and just the crime of being born.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why the right is so effective at

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<v Speaker 3>hoovering all these people up, because the experience of constant

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<v Speaker 3>self flagellation and self criticism is effing exhausting and annoying,

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody wants to wake up every day feeling like

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<v Speaker 3>they are an s person just for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Crime of being born. I like that. Amen to that.

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<v Speaker 3>He also goes on, we have to fix this because

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<v Speaker 3>I hate watching young guys fall into the Andrew Tait masculinity,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he goes through a couple of examples of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they got nowhere to turn to, They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>these like super over the top extremist weirdos just to

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<v Speaker 3>find somebody that's you know, appealing to them and not criticize, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>not criticizing them for being a man. This is an

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<v Speaker 3>existential threat for the Left and even an existential threat

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<v Speaker 3>for humanity itself because the end result if we don't

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<v Speaker 3>fix these gender warfare dynamics is South Korea style gender

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<v Speaker 3>hyper war and a total fertility rate of point four.

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<v Speaker 2>And humanity just gets wiped out.

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<v Speaker 3>That is absolutely I mean, that is absolutely true on

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<v Speaker 3>the left, if you're going to continue to make U

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<v Speaker 3>males feel bad about even being born.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna win a lot of elections or ever

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<v Speaker 2>get that crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>My heart bleeds for the little boys in public schools

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<v Speaker 4>or continually treated as if their maleness is a defect.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's horrorbies.

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<v Speaker 4>It's their energy, They're boundless. Energy is a misbehavior. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>I just you want to get me going.

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<v Speaker 3>God, I came across some schoolwork the other day and

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<v Speaker 3>my uh, my son is homeschooled. But so much of

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<v Speaker 3>the teaching material out there is put out there by

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<v Speaker 3>publishing companies that are so left.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you really have to work at getting the

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<v Speaker 2>right stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, this particular thing was all about how women

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<v Speaker 3>can be doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, freaking kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>At the point in my life when somebody says the

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<v Speaker 3>doctor will see you, I assume it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised if it's a man. So what are you?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>You won?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? That's just again a head scratcher.

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<v Speaker 4>What wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I would feel differently after the election.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought there would be.

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<v Speaker 4>At the very least fairly widespread recognition of some of

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<v Speaker 4>the simple realities of the thing, which is that Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris was a weak candidate, always was week candidate. Is

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<v Speaker 4>that putting it out before hapes You all rejected her,

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, like a rabbit raccoon when she was

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<v Speaker 4>in the primary. Was that sexism and racism when you

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<v Speaker 4>did that? Well, I haven't know. Okay, Well, then when

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<v Speaker 4>the same thing happened the presidential election.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is your explanation completely different?

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<v Speaker 3>That is funny that that has never really been put

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody. Your party rejected her when she ran before,

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<v Speaker 3>not like right winger your own party, like the most

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<v Speaker 3>active people.

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<v Speaker 2>In your party.

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<v Speaker 3>Primary voters said no to her before she even got

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<v Speaker 3>to the first contest. So wow, how is it shocking

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<v Speaker 3>that she got rejected by a larger group of people?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's become a so oft observed fact, it's a truism.

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<v Speaker 2>It's working its way toward being a cliche that when.

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris on the View then Colbert was it Colbert

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<v Speaker 4>or Kimmel, it doesn't matter. Could not say how she

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<v Speaker 4>would be different than the extremely unpopular Biden administration. That

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of the most pivotal political moments in

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<v Speaker 4>any campaign. I mean, that is so widely discussed right now,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no point in bringing it up. Everybody knows it.

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<v Speaker 4>But as I was reading the long top tier editorial

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<v Speaker 4>writer editorial writers of the Washington Post dialogue about what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>How did we get a result that didn't come up?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen any criticism of Kamala Harris as a

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<v Speaker 3>candidate from the left at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I have seen more than I

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<v Speaker 3>have ever seen before, and more than I expected of

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<v Speaker 3>people saying we have democrats have gone too far down

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<v Speaker 3>the road of progressiveness in the culture wars. I have

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<v Speaker 3>seen a fair amount of that. Yes, yeah, yeah, your.

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<v Speaker 4>Old school liberals are finally finding the courage or the

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<v Speaker 4>cover to stand up and say, hey, y'all, all that

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<v Speaker 4>stuff is madness.

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<v Speaker 3>Which, by the way, is the way you win the

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<v Speaker 3>political arguments. That's when you've won. That's a good Other

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<v Speaker 3>side of it would be on gay marriage, where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're old enough to remember this whole battle and

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<v Speaker 3>discussion in America, it got to the point to where

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans realized, we got to stop being anti gay marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a losing issue and we just can't be

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<v Speaker 3>and you stop talking about it. And hopefully that's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start on the left with the you know, boys playing girls'

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<v Speaker 3>sports or all kinds of different things, where they realize

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<v Speaker 3>this is we're gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 2>We nobody wants to hear this, or not enough people

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear this.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, our academic left wing is just completely wildly

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<v Speaker 4>out of touch with Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>That LATINX and her story, Herkstreet and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Is insane, absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Are Strong the Armstrong and Getty Show. So a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of barely related thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about this Bizarro ruling in California where this

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<v Speaker 4>male rapist, he's a brutal forcible rapist, he's done it

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<v Speaker 4>more than once, is now identifying as a woman, which

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<v Speaker 4>is meaningless and stupid, and so the judges insisted the

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<v Speaker 4>prosecutor refer to him as she and her through the trial.

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<v Speaker 4>Then this person's in a woman's prison is obscene.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about the how you came underestimate what it does

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<v Speaker 4>to you when anybody really but the government forces you

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<v Speaker 4>to say something you know not to be true. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to submit to them. It breaks your spirit, which

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<v Speaker 4>is why I won't do it. And then it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>We I was in a Troe did a trivia night

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<v Speaker 4>with Judy and some friends, and I was so bummed

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<v Speaker 4>because one of the questions was what is the last

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<v Speaker 4>line of nineteen eighty four or Well's classic? And I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't remember. And I was so bummed because I just

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<v Speaker 4>read it and I'm so into it. The last line

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<v Speaker 4>happens to be he loved Big Brother. It's Winston Smith.

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<v Speaker 4>When his spirit was so completely broken, he actually internalized

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<v Speaker 4>that he loved Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He was fully cognizant of the evil of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and just driving home the message that if you're

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<v Speaker 3>told something enough, you will come to believe it, which

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<v Speaker 3>is highly troubling, but it seems to be the way

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<v Speaker 3>our minds work.

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<v Speaker 4>And my militants about this topic and some others. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>if I run into a transgender person, whatever that means, again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a mental problem, and I hope you find healing

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<v Speaker 4>and happiness. I truly do. I'm never going to hurt

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<v Speaker 4>anybody's feelings or humiliate them, or try to discriminate against

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<v Speaker 4>them in any meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be terrible and cruel.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, I understand from Orwell and

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<v Speaker 4>others what it does to you when you submit to

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of ideological oppression. It breaks your spirit, and

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<v Speaker 4>I won't do it. Having said that, I just came

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<v Speaker 4>across this. Big Brother isn't just watching. He's changing how

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<v Speaker 4>your brain works. And this is so interesting. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a study done by an Australian research group at a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of different colleges in Australia, and the methodology is

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<v Speaker 4>a little long and difficult to explain, but what they

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<v Speaker 4>found was if these people subjects of the experiment were

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<v Speaker 4>aware that they were being watched, and they showed them

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<v Speaker 4>these are the closed circuit cameras. We're making sure that

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<v Speaker 4>everything's on the up and up, and we want to

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<v Speaker 4>observe so we can look at it later. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the control room, here the TV monitors that we'll

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<v Speaker 4>be using, and blah blah blah. Then they did tests

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<v Speaker 4>on awareness of and sensitivity to various stimuli, including faces.

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<v Speaker 2>Cutting to the end. I know this is utterly unclear,

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<v Speaker 2>Cutting to the end.

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<v Speaker 4>What they found was when people were aware of being watched,

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<v Speaker 4>they were hyper sensitive to images of faces.

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<v Speaker 2>They became cautious and.

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<v Speaker 4>Odes on edge, and I would describe it as borderline afraid.

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<v Speaker 4>They became hyper aware of, oh my god, who's watching

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<v Speaker 4>me and why? In other words, it changes your psyche

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<v Speaker 4>to know you're being surveiled in ways that we're just

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<v Speaker 4>beginning to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I can feel that, I feel that if I become

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<v Speaker 3>aware there's a camera in you know, you're a lobby

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<v Speaker 3>of something.

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<v Speaker 2>You just look around, you see a camera. It makes it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can feel that something changes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, And again it's not known exactly how much

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<v Speaker 4>and in what way, which worries me. I've heard it

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<v Speaker 4>said that a surveiled society is a an obedient society,

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<v Speaker 4>a polite society.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we might as well figure out how it affects us,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's here, a lot of places, in coming other places.

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<v Speaker 3>We will all be surveiled all the time, soon everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's getting closer every day.

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<v Speaker 4>If our purpose is to make ourselves insane as a society,

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing very very well. Sure, I congratulate us home

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<v Speaker 4>completely different topic. I thought this was great. Alan Dershowitz

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<v Speaker 4>and Andrew Stein wrote this piece what Trump can do

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<v Speaker 4>about sanctuary cities, because Trump is vowed to do plenty

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<v Speaker 4>about it. Also bring sanity back to colleges, in elementary schools,

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<v Speaker 4>to the Department of Education, and stuff like that. And

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<v Speaker 4>I love the ideas, but sometimes the mechanics are a

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<v Speaker 4>little mysterious. What levers does he have exactly? And Dershowitz

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<v Speaker 4>and what I say the guy's name is. Stein wrote

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<v Speaker 4>that a constitutional showdown is looming over the border policies.

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<v Speaker 4>We've all heard Tom Holman saying, we're going to deport

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<v Speaker 4>these people. We're gonna round them up. You can either

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<v Speaker 4>help or not. I liked what Holman said too. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, if you're not gonna support us, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to cooperate with us, We're gonna put two three times.

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<v Speaker 2>As many ICE agents in your city. That's fine, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get it done.

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<v Speaker 4>Denver Mike Johnston has said he'd be willing to go

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<v Speaker 4>to jail to prevent deportations.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, put him there. What a hell to die

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<v Speaker 2>on again?

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<v Speaker 3>I just say, you're gonna go to jail to protect

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<v Speaker 3>criminals who've committed crime, because that's where we're starting with.

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<v Speaker 3>People are committing crimes in the United States and are

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<v Speaker 3>here illegally. You're gonna go to jail to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't get deported.

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<v Speaker 2>You're nuts, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish you could somehow get to what is going

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<v Speaker 4>on in a guy like that's head. I mean, my

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<v Speaker 4>guess is that he has a desire to be accepted

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<v Speaker 4>and to be seen as enlightened and progressive and merciful,

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<v Speaker 4>and that desire is so strong in him. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, being a horny seventeen year old male or

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<v Speaker 4>being starving, starving, hungary. It just so perverts his sense

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<v Speaker 4>of priorities. I don't get that at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Newpole out today similar numbers to what we've had before.

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<v Speaker 3>Two thirds of Americans want all illegals deported. That's never

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen. But the ones that have committed crimes in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States are gonna get deported. So the percentage

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<v Speaker 3>on that's got to be like ninety percent, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be You're going to die on that ill

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<v Speaker 3>you nutjobs. I really think they are. Again, it's very strange.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even if we just deported the twenty percent

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<v Speaker 3>who are the most derelict, lazy, useless, and or criminal,

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be an enormous victory, just a fabulus. Well, there

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<v Speaker 3>are six hundred thousand criminals here illegally right now at

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<v Speaker 3>least sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, how will this all be resolved by the courts?

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<v Speaker 2>They write?

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<v Speaker 4>Article six of the Constitution mandates that federal law quote

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<v Speaker 4>shall be the supreme law of land, notwithstanding the laws

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<v Speaker 4>of any state. The Tenth Amendment reserves to the states

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<v Speaker 4>all powers quote not delegated to the United States by

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<v Speaker 4>the Constitution, nor prohibited by it by it.

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<v Speaker 2>To the states. Oh right, that is work correct.

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<v Speaker 4>The constitutional question is whether the authority to regulate immigration,

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<v Speaker 4>including the power to deport illegal aliens, is a power

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<v Speaker 4>delegated to the federal government, And they write a, of

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<v Speaker 4>course it is. Border crossers can travel from state to

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<v Speaker 4>state unhindered, So entry anywhere in the US is entry everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Thus the federal government alone has the authority to control

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<v Speaker 4>the right to enter and remain, as it does the

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<v Speaker 4>power to exclude, deport, and prosecute those who violate immigration laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, to me, the only question.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not an expert in all this law stuff, but

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<v Speaker 3>to me, the only question has been how did it

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<v Speaker 3>go this long? Where a county, a city, of state

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<v Speaker 3>can declare themselves sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's the rub, they write, the Constitution does not

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<v Speaker 4>prohibit states from providing food, healthcare, housing, driving privileges, and

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<v Speaker 4>other necessities to everyone within its borders, nor does it

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<v Speaker 4>compel the states to employ resources to aid the federal government.

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<v Speaker 4>The Supreme Court has articulated an anti commandeering doctrine that

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<v Speaker 4>prohibits the Feds from quote conscripting the state's officers directly

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<v Speaker 4>to enforce federal law, and they write about how the

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<v Speaker 4>doctrine's been revised over the years, and there's no real

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<v Speaker 4>clear guidance on how it would press ically apply to

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<v Speaker 4>sanctuary cities. Much would depend on these specific state action

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<v Speaker 4>at issue, Bob about the President's established when some Southern

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<v Speaker 4>state officials try to prevent the enforcement of federal court's

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<v Speaker 4>desegregation orders. Strongly suggest that states and cities may not

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<v Speaker 4>actively block legitimate enforcement of federal law, but.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have to help, right is that make them help?

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<v Speaker 4>In Between these extremes are a variety of state actions

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<v Speaker 4>and refusal to act.

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<v Speaker 2>Give some examples.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see legally how that's the thing. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess if you live in a nut job place like

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego County just voided body the other day, where

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<v Speaker 3>your constituents, a majority of your constituents say, yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 3>help the federal government deport people are committing crimes in

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<v Speaker 3>our county and here legally, if a majority agrees with that, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe there are very many places where that's

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<v Speaker 3>the case, including like you saw the city council meeting

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<v Speaker 3>in Chicago. People are horrified they're spending so much money

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<v Speaker 3>on illegals. I find it hard to believe that the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of people would be okay with keeping criminals there

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<v Speaker 3>who are there illegally.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it's a bizarre notion. I can't believe anybody

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<v Speaker 4>believes it. But so these guys, who are pretty solid

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<v Speaker 4>legal scholars just think, all right, we're not doing nothing

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<v Speaker 4>they can get away with. But even a whiff of

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<v Speaker 4>opposition or impediment would be actionable, and the federal government,

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<v Speaker 4>could you take measures? What measures I might be, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. It's still it's obscene to me that you would.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, I am fully acquainted with the argument that

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<v Speaker 4>if the immigrant community fears any interaction with the government

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<v Speaker 4>will lead them to be deported, they won't report a rape,

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<v Speaker 4>they won't report when these Venezuelan monsters kidnap them and

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<v Speaker 4>torture them and take over their apartment. They'll be afraid

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to any authorities. We can't have that. I

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<v Speaker 4>get that, and I actually respect it on one level.

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<v Speaker 4>But the idea that you have have a violent criminal

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<v Speaker 4>that you're going to put out on the streets and

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<v Speaker 4>you're fully aware they've got a detainer, a detainment order

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<v Speaker 4>from the ICE, and you, well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>help them. We're going to release that rapist or that

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<v Speaker 4>arm drobber or whatever onto the streets because we don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe there's such thing as an illegal human. You are

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<v Speaker 4>just you're incapable of operating in the adult world. You

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't You shouldn't even be like you should have a caretaker.

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<v Speaker 4>You certainly shouldn't be running anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm strong and get the reality is this is fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you. That's enough of that. This is crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. Yeah, but damn it, we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to ask about the big guys. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>United States of America. Let's not play James.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Armstrong and Getty Show, the arm Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>This is interesting and not terribly shocking. Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>when you get down to the the granular details, it

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<v Speaker 4>is fairly shocking. But Americans are more reliant than ever

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<v Speaker 4>on government aid. An aging population, economic distress raised dependence

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<v Speaker 4>on federal and state support, and it matters a hell

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<v Speaker 4>of a lot for our elections. As you might guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Wall Street Journal looking into a major study. This is

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<v Speaker 4>a little graphics heavy, but I can interpret it for you.

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<v Speaker 4>They're talking about the share of personal income from government assistance.

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<v Speaker 4>How in how many counties is it twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 4>or more? In nineteen seventy, government safety Net money accounted

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<v Speaker 4>for significant income.

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<v Speaker 2>That's more than twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty five percent or more in fewer than one percent

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<v Speaker 4>of America's counties.

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<v Speaker 2>So say that again, in what year?

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<v Speaker 4>In nineteen seventy it was less than one percent? Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>In two thousand it went from less than one percent

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<v Speaker 4>to roughly ten percent. The year two ten percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Which a tenfold increase is not minor.

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<v Speaker 4>In the year twenty twenty two, fifty three percent, more

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<v Speaker 4>than half of US counties drew at least a quarter

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<v Speaker 4>of their income from government aid.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is we were talking about this last week,

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<v Speaker 3>and now that it's the average person in the bottom quintile.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this is a lot of complicated talking, but

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom twenty percent of income earners in America get

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<v Speaker 3>on average sixty eight thousand dollars per household of transfer payments.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's left out of every argument about we have

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<v Speaker 3>the highest inequality of any nation in the world. They

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<v Speaker 3>never include this stuff and what you just talked about there,

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<v Speaker 3>that's never included in these conversations from Bernie Sanders or

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<v Speaker 3>probably Tim Walls tonight in the debate. People live in

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<v Speaker 3>paycheck to paycheck. Well, more people are getting the handouts

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<v Speaker 3>from the government than ever before by all lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And as we've discussed with Craig the healthcare Guru, socialism

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<v Speaker 4>is not a light switch. It's a fungus oh that

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<v Speaker 4>spreads across a country, and it's programmed benefits and yeah, yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It starts getting across there's just no stopping it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So the big reasons for this dramatic growth are interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of them I think most conservatives would reject out

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<v Speaker 4>of hand, but it gets a little complicated when you

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<v Speaker 4>dig into it. There are much larger share of Americans

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<v Speaker 4>who are seniors. Period, we're living longer, and we've aged

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<v Speaker 4>as a population not having kids anymore. And healthcare raw sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>healthcare costs have risen fairly dramatically as they've gotten more fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>The technology we have at our disposal to keep ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>healthy and alive is truly awe inspiring, but it costs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and as my doctor said last week, What exactly

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<v Speaker 3>is the point? Sometimes he wonders, as we just get

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<v Speaker 3>you know, our brains don't work, our bodies don't work,

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<v Speaker 3>but we hang around longer at a great expense.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, it could be the money is the point

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<v Speaker 4>in at least some situations, although it's I understand it's

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<v Speaker 4>an odd conundrum that a person could sit around rubbing

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<v Speaker 4>their chin thinking about for a long time. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to turn down medical advances because it's every advance

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<v Speaker 4>is an incremental step. It can lead toward other advances

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<v Speaker 4>or cures or what have you. But at the same

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 4>time you and your doctor are quite right, Hey, good news.

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<v Speaker 4>We can keep alzheimer suffering Granny alive for one more year.

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<v Speaker 4>We can stave off for cancer with this new gene therapy.

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<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we doing here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway to get back to the major thread of the thing,

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<v Speaker 4>rouni here. At the same time, many communities, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>the aging and the development of medical technology number one.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, any communities have suffered from economic

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<v Speaker 4>declient because of the challenges, including the loss of manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 4>leaving government money. Is the larger share of people's income

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<v Speaker 4>in such places. I you know, I could bore you

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<v Speaker 4>to death. I won't because I do this for a

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<v Speaker 4>living and kind of enjoy getting the paycheck. But one

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<v Speaker 4>of the big debates in conservative circles these days is

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<v Speaker 4>the question of the reagan Esque free trade global economy

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<v Speaker 4>conservatives versus what's being called the new conservatism or whatever you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to call it. And everybody's always government conservatism. Some

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 3>people call it, yeah, industrial.

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<v Speaker 2>Planning, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes people even call it central planning, what have you,

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<v Speaker 4>And are bellowing at each other about it, as if

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<v Speaker 4>the solutions and the questions and answers are very simple.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not at all. They're trillions of dollars at stake.

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<v Speaker 4>So I understand why the people making lots and lots

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<v Speaker 4>of money want to keep that money flowing. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>care how much unemployment there is in rural Pennsylvania, for instance.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, oh oh, and the other point

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to make on the side of the new.

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<v Speaker 2>Conservatives.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in Reagan's day, we didn't have the situation where

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<v Speaker 4>our chief global adversary is our one of our chief

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<v Speaker 4>trading partners technology partners, and practically indispensable to the world economy.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you are pitching free global trade of a

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<v Speaker 4>reaganesque sort, your pitching continued interaction slash dependence with China,

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<v Speaker 4>which is just a bad idea. Times have changed, the

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<v Speaker 4>arguments have to change too, So I have sympathy with

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<v Speaker 4>both sides, but it is not simple. So for its

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<v Speaker 4>analysis of government spending, EIG, which is the folks doing

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<v Speaker 4>the analysis, used the government definition of income that includes

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<v Speaker 4>spending on programs that American pay into, such as Medicare

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<v Speaker 4>and Social Security. Another major government health program, Medicaid, is counted.

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<v Speaker 4>The analysis also includes unemployment insurance, food stamps, the Earned

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<v Speaker 4>Income tax credit, veterans benefits, pell grants, COVID Era payments,

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<v Speaker 4>and other income supports. States helped pay for some of

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<v Speaker 4>these programs, like Medicaid, but the federal government covers roughly

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<v Speaker 4>seven seventy percent of the cost, and it doesn't include

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<v Speaker 4>other ways government spending floods into corners of America, such

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<v Speaker 4>as farm subsidies or military bases. So this spending accounts

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<v Speaker 4>for big and growing share of not only the income

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<v Speaker 4>of the nation, but also our national debt. We are

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<v Speaker 4>addicted to government spending slash social programs as a country.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no weaning off that either. I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 3>no backwards. I don't think it's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but you do have to be honest about the

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<v Speaker 4>dollars and cents coming and going, and we're headed for

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<v Speaker 4>a cliff.

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<v Speaker 3>So we went from one percent nineteen seventy to over

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<v Speaker 3>half now correct.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unbelievab.

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<v Speaker 3>Not very many people could tell you that Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 3>Getty