1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: As a collective group, that group of McNeil, Dealmon, Hardwood, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Golf and Olivier. What can you say to best describe 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: those guys up front? I would say those guys were 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: they were the hard hat guys, you know, like those 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: are the guys like you do you think about blue 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: collar guys that get up in the morning early, you know, 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: before the crack of dawn. They packed their lunch. In fact, 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: they already have their lunch pack at night, you know, 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: so when they get up in the morning, they just 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna grab that joker and they're all too worked and 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: as soon as they get out their car, they put 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: that hard hat on because they know it's time to 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: go to work. That's how it characterized. Those guys never 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: wanted the credit, but you can depend on them. And 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: they were the guys that were my bodyguards, lead me 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: through the lead me wherever d needed to go. And 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: I always knew that they would show up. I always 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: knew they would. When it comes to great offenses, the 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: linemen are often the ones least talked about, and it 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: was no different. In two thousand and six, Ladanian Thomlinson 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: was putting together an MVP season, a new starting quarterback 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers let an offense that could seemingly score it will, 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: but someone had to keep those guys standing upright. McNeil, Delman, Hardwick, Goff, 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: and Olivier. These are the men that built a fortress 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: around the Chargers offense and set the tone to push 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: opponents around. In this episode, we'll explore how this group 27 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: came of age together in the mid two thousands and 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: developed into a unit that helped make history. For Chris Hayry, 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm Haley Elwood. This is Running for History. Episode four. 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: The offensive line presented by lazy doctors San Diego Chargers 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to elect Ladanian Tomlinson Luster immortality and the hand off 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: to Thomlinson and he will gall. Hey, everyone, Lazydog Restaurants 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: is spreading holiday cheer with these fundy gingerbread house kits 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: to take home. 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I personally cannot wait 40 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: to make mine with my family and friends, and you 41 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: can see what it's all about at Lazydog Restaurants dot com. 42 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: There's an adage in the NFL that usually when you 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: hear an offensive lineman's name on a broadcast, it means 44 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: something went wrong. But in the mid two thousands, the 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: members of the Chargers offensive line became household names for 46 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the right reason, helping guide one of the most prolific 47 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: offenses in football that all culminated in two thousand and six. 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: The Chargers were a team that could score easily and often, 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: and as Antonio Gates were called, none of it would 50 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: have happened without those guys up front. Man, they are 51 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to me, they are the reason the things happened for myself, 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: for a guy like Ladanion or guy like Philip, for 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: guy like you. I mean, those are the true warriors 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: to me, and I appreciate them a whole lot. I'm 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: sure you know a guy like Ladanion and Philip and 56 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: those guys who've always dealt with them consistently due to 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: the positions they played, they are the reasons why we won. 58 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: It's very simple. We were the ones who got the 59 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: glory and we were the ones that's catching and running 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: the touchdowns and throwing the touchdowns. But there are the 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: reasons why we won, and they are the ultimate reason 62 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: why you win football games in the NFL because of 63 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the guys like Marcus and deal Man and Golf and 64 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: obviously Nick Hardwick. Those are the front runners to me 65 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: in terms of any good team, as the guys up front, 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: good offenses starting to tes it's the dirty work that 67 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: pays dividends on the ground or through the air. The 68 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: bond that was built between the Chargers offensive linemen and 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: skill position players was key to making the unit click. 70 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Just as Chargers owner Dean spanos well, I mean, I 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: truly believe your identity starts with the offensive line on 72 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: any team. It always has in my mind. And there 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: was a great deal of respect obviously between them and lt. 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: LT took care of him. I'm sure he took him 75 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: out to dinner a lot of times, but there was 76 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: a special bond there between him. So now that we've 77 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: gotten the vibe of the line, let's break down the 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: five guys that comprised it. Chris Dealman joined the Chargers 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three as an undrafted free agent 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: out of Indiana. Signing with San Diego meant he was 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: reunited with his former Hoosier head coach and current Chargers 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at the time, Cam Cameron. Cameron and the 83 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Bolts decided to convert Dealman from defensive linemen to guard. 84 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Not before long, he cemented himself as a starter on 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the left side. I was more. It took everything I 86 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: had for me to focus and to pick it up 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: and to learn it because you know, learning all the 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: learning the old line is not an easy gig. You 89 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of luck. You have to have a 90 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: lot of hard work and luck just with injuries and whatnot. 91 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: But having Hardwick and Marcus on either side of me 92 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: was a great balance for me to keep me within 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: the lines. You know, we were all really intelligent. I 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: mean some more than others, but we all were pretty smart. 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: We all knew the offense, we all knew what was 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: going on. But as good as he was technically, Delman 97 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: was also the enforcer, bringing nasty, toughness and grit weekend 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: and week out. Need proof, Let's hear from a couple 99 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: of guys who played with him, left tackle Marcus McNeil 100 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: and center Nick Hardwick, man, Chris is like the best 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: guy to have what you're going in the battle. You know, 102 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys who, you know, if I 103 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: if I was at a bar fighting, it's just me 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: and him versus thirty people, I feel like me and 105 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: him go. You know. That's that's how much comfortence Chris 106 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: Dillman gives you, because you know, one he's not scared 107 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: to stick his nose in there, and two he's not 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: scared to throw a punch. So when you got somebody 109 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: like that, I mean, it was it was like the 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: best one two punch that we could have. We almost 111 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: felt like we were tag team wrestlers out there. And 112 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: that's my brother. I just actually just saw me yesterday 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: and we just we just went to war with each other. 114 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: You know. We went to war with each other every 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: every weekend and week out, you know, and Chris was 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys who he's gonna bring that type 117 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: of intensity and you just gotta match it. You know, 118 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring that hard nose. Let's go. And I 119 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: don't care who you are lined up against me and me. 120 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna back down from anybody either. So I 121 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: think we just kind of you know, were perfect for 122 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: each other. You know, he come in low, I'm coming 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: in high end. We're just having a good time out 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: that rocking and row. We never lost our brutal nature 125 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: up front, and I think a lot of it was 126 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: because we had some super brutal guys. I mean, Chris 127 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: Dielman was a brutal football player, and he was he 128 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: set the tone up front. Dealman's physicality was unmatched and 129 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: there was nothing he loved more than making contact and 130 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: knocking his man off the ball. But as much as 131 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: he loved it, so too did his running back. You know, 132 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: one guy, Chris Dillman. The one thing I remember most 133 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: about Chris Dielman, he said this a lot. He was. 134 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: You know, at different times in the game he would 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: start the head to the line of screamage after we 136 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: called the play, he will stop, turn around and look 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: at me right in my face, face to face, and 138 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: say follow me, you know, And how could I not 139 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: somebody with that type of passion determination he knows he's 140 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: gonna win, and if he if he has that much 141 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: confidence that he's gonna win and he's gonna kick his guys. 142 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: But then I you know, who am I to not 143 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: behind that guy. I had the utmost confidence every time 144 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: in Chris Dillman on that left side because I knew 145 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: he was gonna he was gonna move people. I loved 146 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: poem so forty power was when I would pull around 147 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: and golf and and Clary with double team up to 148 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: line back. I love the poem because it's gonna hurt 149 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: when you go run around their full speed and you 150 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: run into some big on the other side, it's gonna hurt. 151 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: Is it gonna hurt me? Or is it gonna hurt you? 152 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: And who's it gonna hurt more? So I wanted to 153 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: make I want to inflect as much pain on you, 154 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: so I you know, when you hit someone and clean 155 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: like it's you don't you don't hurt. You know so 156 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: much as a runner you think about anyway, you know, 157 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: because obviously you're you're the last one back there. You're 158 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: looking at all these guys on the other side of 159 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: the ball that are trying to take your head off. 160 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: So you know, you you have so much that you're 161 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: thinking about. But at the same time, it's really all 162 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: about reaction, you know, as to play goals, it's reaction. 163 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: But if I have that my last thought. If it's 164 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Chris Dillman telling me follow me that naturally, you know, unconsciously, 165 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: I guess you're gonna you're gonna look at him. You're 166 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna follow him, because that's the last thought 167 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: in your mind before all chaos happen. Delman was the 168 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: tone setter, and as he said, learning a new position 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: men he had to overcome a bit more each snap 170 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: than his neighbors, like the naturally gifted Marcus McNeil. I 171 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: think we were really athletic up front, you know, Delman 172 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: coming from a defensive alignment. Nick Hardwick he was, he 173 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: was smaller, but he was super quick, super strong. We 174 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: had Shane Olivier who who was there, who was He 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: was a smaller tackler, but his feet work was impeccable 176 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: and he could get off the line like no other. 177 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: And then you round that off with Mike Golf, who 178 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: was a tough son with be for itself you know 179 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the whole time, and kind of veteran of the crew. 180 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: I think we had that leadership in some of that 181 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: veterans ability with Mike Golf, and then from the roll 182 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: we had a bunch of young guys who were just 183 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: ready to go out there and compete and just want 184 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: scared of nobody. 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Part of the 194 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: beauty of this Charger's offensive line was how seamlessly the 195 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: mix of younger players and older veterans jelled together. So 196 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: now focus on one of the latter, in right guard 197 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: Mike Goff. When Goff arrived in San Diego as a 198 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: free agent in two thousand and four, he was entering 199 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: a seventh season in the league and came to the 200 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Chargers wanting to be part of a team that could 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: make some noise. Joining a team that was set on 202 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: building a winning culture was also key, so he teamed 203 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: up with a coach who felt similarly. I knew so 204 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: much about coach Shottenheimer for you know, all those years, 205 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: all those years in Cleveland, when he was in Kansas City, 206 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: and you just when you got a chance to just 207 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: meet him in person, you got a sense of he 208 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: was a genuine He was a genuine coach. And I 209 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: think sometimes sometimes when you meet someone you can tell 210 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: whether they're being genuine or not. And he just had 211 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: that thing about him that just that you knew he cared. 212 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: You knew he loved football, you knew he wanted to win, 213 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and you knew everything that he was talking about was 214 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: the truth. And I think when you surround yourself by 215 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: someone like that, it really does give you the opportunity 216 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: to say, hey, I could learn a lot from from 217 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: a man who's been around for many years. He's been 218 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: around the support of a long time, and and just 219 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: to get a chance to because of me. It wasn't 220 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: it had nothing new about San Diego, the weather or 221 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: anything like that. That just I mean, seventeen years later, 222 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm obviously still here, but it was it was about 223 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: it was about buying into what coach hot Iro Rousselim 224 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: and he said, we didn't have a good year. We 225 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: accept that. We accept that we had a bad year. 226 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: We understand that four and twelve isn't good enough, but 227 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: we need to change it. We need people like you. 228 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: We got your buddy lorenzo'neil here, we got your buddies 229 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: fully here, we got other guys that you know, your 230 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: buddy timto White's here. We got guys that you know 231 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: on this team, and we can make this something special. 232 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: And I think at that moment when he said that, 233 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: that that that that resonated in my brain that this 234 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: could be something special. It didn't hurt that they put 235 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: me on the phone with lt NLT said, Hey, we're 236 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna do something special too. That didn't that that didn't 237 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: hurt things. That definitely helped. But I think that that 238 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: just him him being passionate about it and him being 239 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: sincere about it. Really just needs you to believe that, 240 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: yes I believe what you're saying, and yes I'm gonna 241 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: come here, and yes I would do everything I can 242 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: to help you win. I tell you, when he first 243 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: got there, I felt like like we had just got 244 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: a piece that would bank the office line come together. 245 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: You know, having him on the other side of Dick 246 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: and obviously being strong those those front three spots center 247 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: and both guards, you know, big guys that can move 248 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: people off the line. Golf was really good at obviously 249 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: pulling the twenty eight year old Golf was at a 250 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: stage in his career where he not only brought a 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: physical presence to the offensive line, but his mental acumen 252 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: was unmatched. And Golf was so good and pulling through 253 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: the hope finding those linebackers and getting those key blocks. 254 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: And not to mention that the guy was super smart, 255 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was always he I don't 256 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: know if he ever made a mistake. Whenever you think 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: about if someone jumped off side or somebody missed their 258 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: block or or a blitz and stuff. The neverl was Golf, 259 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, because the guy was a solid probe. You know, 260 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: he understood his strengths and weaknesses, and he was just 261 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: kind of one of those glue guys that kept us together. 262 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: Delman was in his second season when Golf joined the 263 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: Bolts and was still very much learning how to play 264 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: guard at the highest level. Golf, who had seen a 265 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: lot of football, was now a mentor to show delm 266 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: in the way and discussed how he never saw his 267 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: younger counterpart as competition. Golfer was like that savvy veteran man. 268 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: He'd been there for a while. Didn't say a whole lot. Man. 269 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: He's smart as a whip dude. He knew his stuff. 270 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: He'd been in there, he knew how to he knew 271 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: how to get his hands in there and get the 272 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: job done. And he a good, a good veteran presence 273 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: in there, so you could see how to learn how 274 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: to be a professional. So Golf was like a nice 275 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: veteran kind of showing the young puffs, you know, not 276 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: somewhat showing us, but he was a good example of 277 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: how to make it, how to last. Some people look 278 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: at when they bring in younger guys as a threat 279 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: to your job and a threat to you. I didn't 280 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: want to look at it like that because in my 281 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: my first year where I was before San Diego, I 282 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: remember one of the older guys asked him if he 283 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: would show me something, and he looked then in the 284 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: eye and said no, because I don't want you to 285 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: take my job. And that was the end of the conversation. 286 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: And I kind of made a little bow to myself 287 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: at that time that I wasn't going to go and 288 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: do that. I wasn't going to be that person because 289 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: if I'm not good enough, then I shouldn't be playing well. 290 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Golf joined the Chargers knowing he would be one of 291 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the key veteran voices on the field. He didn't expect 292 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: to impact Dealman's life so much off of it. Golf 293 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: not only took Dealman under his wing, but under his 294 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: own roof in the Pacific Beach neighborhood of San Diego. 295 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, I lived with Golf for like three years 296 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: in his basement, so him and I were like brothers, 297 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Like I mean, he was a phenomenal cook. I mean 298 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: that's how that's how I met PB. I mean, that's 299 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: all in love with PB. I could live in his basement. 300 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: But that's definitely a good, big part how we all 301 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of grew up together. And you know, that was 302 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: a special time. That was a special group missed it 303 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot. I think anytime anytime you can break bread 304 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: with with people that you you care for, and even 305 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: if you know, anytime you can just get together and 306 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: have a meal, have some beers, have some wine, have 307 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: some dessert, it just it makes things better. And one 308 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: of the highlights I enjoyed doing was in particular Thanksgiving 309 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: and Christmas dinners just finally, you know, usually get deep 310 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: fried turkey and have people just bring something and just 311 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: getting together because I was I was single at the 312 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: time and a lot of the guys were single, so 313 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: yearly didn't have any anywhere else to go, So just 314 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: to get everyone together and just be together outside of 315 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: the facility, and I think you get a chance to 316 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: really get a chance to know people, know their story, 317 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: know what they're about. And I think again that just 318 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: kind of builds to the when you get to know 319 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: somebody on a personal level, it makes you want to 320 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: not let them down. So if you're keeping scoring home, 321 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: we've got the enforcer and Chris Deelman and the savvy 322 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: VT and Mike Goff. But Goff wasn't the only core 323 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: member of the two thousand and six Chargers offensive line 324 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: that joined the team in O four. The Chargers drafted 325 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: two promising blockers that year, including a physical seventh round 326 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: tackle out of Ohio State, Shane Olivier. Shane Olivier the 327 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: wild Man. You know, he was the wild man of 328 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: the group. But the one thing about him. He was 329 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: like he was the nastiest next to Chris Delman. He 330 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: was the nastiest lineman that we had, Like he absolutely 331 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: wanted to dominate you. And honestly, he might have been 332 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: the most gifted, you know, quiet as kill because he 333 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a bit tall guy, but he was able to 334 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: run block, he was able to pass block. He was athletic, 335 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: he had strong hands, he can drive you off the ball. 336 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Olivier could do everything. And you know, I love the 337 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: guy because he enjoyed his job, and you knew he 338 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. There was times where you know, he would 339 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: get so pumped up and he would just start screaming, 340 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: start screaming out there after he dominates somebody. And as 341 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: a runner, you know, that's what you call imposing your will. 342 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: That's what we enjoyed doing, was imposing our will, and 343 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Shane Olivier would do that often. He would oftentimes be 344 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: the first person imposing his will are in the game. 345 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: In the third round of that same year, the Chargers 346 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: drafted the future anchor of their offensive line, Nick Hardwick. 347 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: The produc center was rot He hadn't even played high 348 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: school football and instead won a state championship in wrestling, 349 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: but he decided to walk on to the Boilermakers squad, 350 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: where he eventually cemented himself as the team starting center. 351 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Once he got to the NFL, his limited physical experience 352 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: wasn't noticeable because mentally he was a step ahead. According 353 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: to Dealmak, we all were pretty smart. We all knew 354 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: the offense, we all knew what was going on, but 355 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: Hardwick knew it better than anybody. And the way he 356 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: could direct, Like if Hardwick overrules something, you went with Hardwood. 357 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: Don't hey us see something? But Hardwick says it, I'll 358 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: go with Nick. So the term you can't have too 359 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: many cooks in the kitchen, well, Hardwick was the cook, 360 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: all right, So whatever Hardwick said, We're gonna go with 361 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: that one. And the way him and Philip would work 362 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: with each other throughout the game was amazing. But you 363 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: saw that when you would watch him the meetings and 364 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: how they would communicate there. As Hardwick himself remembers, he 365 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: had great mentors on the Charger staff and team. He 366 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: helped him become so cerebral. With the game two thousand 367 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: and four, heavn Hudson, howc as an offensive line coach 368 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: for me was instrumental in my development as a guy 369 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: coming into the National Football League. I think I had 370 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen starts in college. I didn't know anything. 371 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: I didn't play high school football, and so he gave 372 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: me a great foundation to work from technically, how to study, 373 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: how to look at defenses. And then I really do 374 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: have to go back and give Roman Open a bunch 375 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: of kudos to all of us young guys, really, because 376 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: when he came in, he forced us to develop great 377 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: study habits, and so did Hudson. How Hudson would put 378 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: us on the board and make us draw defenses and 379 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: draw plays against them, which then would take us from 380 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: training camp and we'd go home as a rookie and 381 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: he would tell me, you need to study two extra 382 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: hours tonight at ten pm. So I'd study him ten 383 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: to midnight every single night as a rookie, just to 384 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: make sure that that information was in there, and then 385 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: he would test us the next day. Yeah, Nick was 386 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: a captain, you know, he was the guy that we 387 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: looked to to make all the calls. You know, he 388 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: was the he was the professor if you will, you 389 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: know he was. But at the same time, he was 390 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: this bad dude. That really took care of everybody else. 391 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: You know, he did his job, but he did other 392 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: guy's job as well. And to think about, Nick had 393 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: a great relationship with everybody on the offense. He can 394 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: talk to everybody and it it was it wasn't just 395 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, talking, it was really getting to know each 396 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: and every man on that team, and especially on the offense. 397 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: Office a unit, but you know, he was the glue 398 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: that kept us all together. He was the main key 399 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: on our offense. 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Marcus McNeil 409 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: was the fifth and final piece of that fame two 410 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: thousand and six Offensive line who came to the Bolts 411 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: in that year's draft. Normally, a left tackle is tasked 412 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: with protecting a quarterback's blindside, but the Auburn prospect was 413 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: no stranger to protecting elite runners as well. As he 414 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: helped Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams reach one thousand yards 415 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and double digit score seasons in college. Now he had 416 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: the chance to do the same for lt and he 417 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: did it with a personality to boot. I was already 418 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: excited to be able to block for a back who was, 419 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, already MVP caliber athlete and running back. So 420 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: I was just excited to meet him in the locker room. 421 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: You know, the first time I bet him in the 422 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: locker room, I remember just being there, like man, I 423 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: played with him on that. You know, Mac was definitely 424 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: the clown. Like between him and Nick them two, he 425 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: the funniest dudes you could have. The feat Well, Marcus was, 426 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, we consider him the cool young kid. You know, 427 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: he had sweet feet, you know, he could run. He 428 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: was pretty, you know, but at the same time, he 429 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: was nasty. You know, he wanted to embarrass you and 430 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: he wanted to, you know, get you to a point 431 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: where he'll just be laughing at you because you know 432 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: he's dominating you. And you know Marcus would he would 433 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: always obviously defer to the older guys on the line, 434 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: but man, he was. He was such a great tackle. 435 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: He was passionate about, you know, his job, and he 436 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: was always there, you know, in practice. He loved the 437 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: practice and he kept it loose. I think at times 438 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: where you know, we had so many serious guys on 439 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the officive line, Marcus was one of the guys that 440 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: really kept in loose and kept it fine. And even 441 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: sometimes will be will be in a hudder and everybody 442 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: to be serious. Marcus will crack a joke and make 443 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: everybody laugh. So he was that type of guy. Lining 444 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: up next to McNeil on every snap. Dealman was passionate 445 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: about the punishment he could deliver. With a rookie at 446 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: his side. At six foot seven, the athlete named Big 447 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Mac was the ideal compliment to Dealman, the perfect guy 448 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: on the left side of that offensive line. I love 449 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: double team with Marcus, Marcus being so much taller than 450 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: I him, I could get down low and Marcus. You 451 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: know that helped Marcus because he would come in and 452 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: we would move these three techniques and that's a that's 453 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: just your that's your will, Like you're like, I want 454 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: to beat your ass, like I want to get you. 455 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: I gotta move you out of here. We're gonna get you, 456 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: like they know we're gonna do a double team on you. 457 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: And yet our technique, like our grit is you're just 458 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: not gonna stop us. We're still like, you know we're 459 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna do this, and we're still gonna push your ass 460 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: fifteen yards orders there and then golf comes around, LT 461 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: pops out and boom, we've got another big run. During 462 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: that two thousand and sixth season, McNeil earned offensive Rookie 463 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: of the Month honors and was never called for holding. 464 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: A big reason he had such a stellar rookie year 465 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: at left tackle was because of the faith his head 466 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: coach had in him. For mac, it didn't matter that 467 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: he was the youngest of the bunch. Schottenheimer's one play 468 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: at a time mentality resonated with him and helped him 469 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: take his game to new heights. My best story about 470 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Marty was he pulled me to the side. We just 471 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: walking to meetings. He just kinds of pulled me to 472 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: the side and he tells me that, you know, Marcus him, 473 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna give up a set, you know, 474 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: I know it, Like he's gonna be a play, You're 475 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna say, something's gonna happen. You know you're gonna give 476 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: up a stack. I'm not worried about that play. I'm 477 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: more worried about how you're gonna approach the next play. 478 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: So whatever happens, I need you to put that behind 479 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: you and then go and attack the next play. And 480 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: that just lifted such a weight off my shoulder. I 481 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: already had the bag of chips on my shoulder, so 482 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: so when he lifted that weight off my shoulder to 483 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: where I felt like I had to be perfect. Things 484 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: had to be like, you know, flawless for me to 485 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: be able to start a left tackle or be able 486 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: to play at a high level. Like it took me 487 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: from being a little bit slowed down or slowing my 488 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: pace down to make sure that I could be perfect, 489 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: to just going out and playing, you know, balls to 490 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: the wall, just straight as fast as I can go, 491 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, putting my foot on the gas pedal and go. 492 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: So now all five pieces of the offensive line are 493 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: in place, and it was on them to dominate, and 494 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: dominate they did. For Hardwick, the offensive line worked every 495 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: day to plan the image of their leader and compliment 496 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: the philosophy that was Martie Ball. Marty did not overcomplicate 497 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: the game of football, and I don't think the game 498 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: needs to be that overcomplicated. And I guess what he 499 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: did was. I mean, the philosophy simple, right, it's one 500 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: play at a time. Hit him in the mouth, man, 501 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: and that was it. And it's you're just gonna have 502 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: to hit him in the mouth, hit him in the mouth, 503 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: hit him in the mouth, and eventually we're going to 504 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: be able to impose our will on you, which ultimately 505 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: when we boil football down, that's what it is. You know, Yes, 506 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: we got to be good tactically, Yes we have to 507 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: be good technically, but how can I find a way 508 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: to break your will at the end of the day 509 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, I got to sign over here 510 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: and says, we do our job with a monotonous consistency, 511 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: day in and day out, one play at a time. 512 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Then in the fourth quarter, we impose our will. And 513 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: that was kind of the offensive lines mantra, And that 514 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: was a sign that was hanging up there. But that 515 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: was Marty, keep it close and in the fourth quarter, 516 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna step on the gas, won't crush them. And 517 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: that's why we were so tough. And Marty never let 518 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: us get away with anything in practice. I mean, we 519 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: would be halfway through practice and the defense would be 520 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: getting beat and he was fed up with it, and 521 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: he'd start a whole thing over, starting over. It's like, oh, 522 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: we're halfway through this deal and we're going back to 523 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: warm ups and we're going to go back. And that 524 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: was just he was relentless on the details, and mostly 525 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: he was relentless on the intensity and where that needed 526 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to be on a daily basis, because he knew that 527 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: when the time came, that intensity was going to be 528 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: most important. So along with protecting Philip Rivers, this group 529 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: had to open lanes for LT. A group like the 530 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: offensive line can't survive if all five guys aren't on 531 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the same page, But they also won't survive if they 532 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: can't communicate with their playmakers. That was never a problem 533 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: working with LT. Oh, oh, yeah, there's there's LT. You 534 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: could tell an LT didn't like the play we were 535 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: running some form outside zone. LT really didn't have that, 536 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: really didn't have that kind of love for it. He 537 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: still he would make it work because he was a 538 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: numberable running back. But we Lt was the master I 539 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: had figuring out the power And I think that if 540 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: we didn't run it enough, just like anything else, if 541 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: you don't get something that you want, you kind of 542 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: get a little kind of get a little pissy about it. 543 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: And I think that that there were times where you know, 544 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to run that play. I want to 545 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: run this play and we as offensive life but said, yet, 546 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: we want to run that play too, and so and 547 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: so I think that you look at the offensive coordinators 548 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: we had in camp, Cameron North, Turner, Clarence Shelman, those guys, 549 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: they all understood what we were good at doing. But 550 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: I think what they were trying to do is they 551 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: were trying to trying to make us more just one 552 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: dimensional and just running power right, power left. And I 553 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: think that at the end of the day, they knew, 554 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: just like we knew, that it was time to start 555 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: running power if you running off and LT had no 556 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: problem telling people here, I don't know why we're running 557 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: this player. We need to be running test. So all 558 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: behold that now we started running at you know, LT 559 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: knew what he was good at, that's for sure. He 560 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: loved running power obviously, and I fifty slant was probably 561 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: my second favorite play. And that's just me versus you 562 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: move him out. LT knows exactly how I'm gonna block it. 563 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: He knows what's gonna happen, and he would call it. 564 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: You know, I let me get off of this count. 565 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Let me get off of this though. Let me And 566 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: with him being vocal about that, you know that puts 567 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: us in the right plane. And he knows what plays 568 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: he's good at. We know what plays we're good at, 569 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: and thank god we've been matched up and knows were 570 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: the plays that we all were good at. And that's 571 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: the ones that you saw him breaking off the fronts. 572 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: And you know, with LT, the best part about him 573 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: is he never fumbled like he never fumbled so and 574 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: if he did, it very rare and so as hard 575 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: as you're working, there's nothing worse than busting your ass, 576 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: and then he gets to running bumbles like the fall. 577 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Security with LT was also a huge communicating with his 578 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: line As a skill, Tomlinson had a lot of practice 579 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: app and it was something he worked on his entire career, 580 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: just as David Bobo, who blocked from him at TCU. 581 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: He was vocal back then too. I mean now whether 582 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: the coaches would listen to him back then, it probably 583 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: wasn't until our senior year that it really was a 584 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: collective effort. You know. He would say, Hey, if we 585 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: did this, I really think we can get it done. 586 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: And like I was saying, that field that he had, 587 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: it really worked. You know. I thought it was important 588 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: at different times to watch film together as an you know, 589 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: a running bass group in office and line group, so 590 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: we can talk about plays, run plays. I wanted them 591 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: to know, you know, in certain run plays what my 592 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: thought process was, you know, how I like to run 593 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: to play, and we would talk through certain plays. You know. Yeah, 594 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: I think that just helped us build, you know, a 595 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: better connection of I guess when it became. When it became, 596 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, deep in the fourth quarter when we needed 597 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: to play, we didn't have to think about, you know, 598 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: what we'd like to run. We all knew. So if 599 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: they call forty power, we already they knew what I 600 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: was thinking on forty power. I knew exactly what they 601 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: were thinking in terms of I know, Mike Golf, you know, 602 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: and I know Nick Carwick forty power, they liked to 603 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: hold that double team a little bit longer. Chris Dillman doesn't, 604 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: but Mike golf that he likes to hold it. So 605 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: I need to be a little bit more patient, you 606 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: know with this play things like that. You know, it's 607 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: what you learned in the film room and then you 608 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: you translated over into the games. So I always thought 609 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: that was very important that we we both understood each other. 610 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Every snap that unit played was done in hopes of 611 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: punishing their opponent and giving Tomlinson an opportunity to make 612 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: a play. It might not always start pretty, and sometimes 613 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: people are going to have a good game plan, but 614 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: you aren't going to abandon it. You were going to 615 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: keep grinding, you were going to keep chopping, you were 616 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: going to keep doing everything that you had to do 617 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: to go win to go win the game, and you're 618 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna do it running the ball. And I think that 619 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: was a that was just such a you take pride 620 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: in it as an offensive line, and when you're running 621 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: back has over one hundred and fifty yards at the game, 622 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: you kind of grab a cold beer after the game 623 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: and you say, hey, all right, we got the job done. 624 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: This week on the next, Former San Diego Union Tribune 625 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: writer Jim Trotter described the two thousand and six Chargers 626 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: offensive line as five fingers that formed a fist, and 627 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: that fist helped clear the way for number twenty one 628 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: historic season. Before the players two thousand and six and 629 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: all the years they spent together been more than just 630 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: celebrating wins. They celebrated each other. They were a group 631 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: that grew up together, found strength within each other, and 632 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: a group that is forever etched in Chargers history. We 633 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: were wild, and they loved us to be wild. They 634 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: didn't nobody really tried to hone us in and they 635 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: just said, we like this energy. We're not going to 636 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: try to temper that, so we're going to use that. 637 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: And I remember Roman once it was like, I love 638 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: playing with you kids. You remind me how fun this 639 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: game is supposed to be. And he said, you gave 640 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: us in a little bit of extra life and that 641 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: was important. And then when Marcus comes in and Clary 642 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: comes in, we're all basically at life at about the 643 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: same time. We're all kind of growing into this space 644 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: together and meeting our wives and having kids at the 645 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: same age and we're going through the exact same phases 646 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: of life together. And we were fighting on the field together, 647 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: and we were spending twelve hours in the meeting room 648 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: and on planes and buses and at restaurants, and it 649 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: was just a perfect time scenario for all of us, 650 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: and it was wonderful. It's such a special special group 651 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: that you know, we just recently got back on a 652 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: text chain and it just was fun just catching up 653 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: with them. And I think the thing that's special about 654 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: about us and just football and generals such a special 655 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: fraternity brotherhood that you might not see somebody for years 656 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: and you just fall right back into it. And I 657 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: think that when you had that kind of relationship, you 658 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: really want to play for the person next team. We 659 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: were together for so long you almost knew what everybody 660 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: was thinking before we even did. We didn't have to 661 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: really talk at times. In some of these states, you 662 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: couldn't hear anyways, so you just knew. I knew what 663 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: Marcus was doing Hardwicke and I knew what we were doing. 664 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: Like we just as a group, we worked together very well. 665 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, and we all fought and every 666 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: once in a while, you know, we all ragged each other, 667 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: but we were a family, and we were brothers, and 668 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: and we got to stay together quick for you know, 669 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: five to six seven years. And I think what we 670 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: had for the five years that I was here was 671 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: was truly the best lines that I've ever been associated with. 672 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: This has been a LA Chargers production. Coming up next 673 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: on running for History. It's finally time to talk two 674 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: thousand and six, the year Ladanian Tomlinson took the league 675 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: by storm along with the help of a new starting quarterback. 676 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: We'll take a look at just how lt led the 677 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: Bolts to a league best fourteen and two record and 678 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: how the running back made history in the process. It 679 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: just was like every week, like the touchdown count for 680 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: l two was like four three four, two four, and 681 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: it's like wow. I mean sometimes the practice were harder 682 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: than the games because that's how much we would compete, 683 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: and we had the type of guys to to really 684 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: get on you, right. It was it was a player 685 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: players run situation where we you know, started practice into practice. Uh, 686 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: there was no holding back in the locker room. It's 687 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: like if a guy's not working hard, then you knew 688 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: that you would somebody was gonna get on your LT 689 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: being one and low kneel on some of the older guys, 690 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: and but that built the culture. That was a culture 691 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: that we had as these things are happening in terms 692 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: of as you're powling up the yardage but also scoring 693 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: four touchdowns you know, one week, you know, two touchdowns, 694 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: you do have a sense that, man, this is a 695 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: really great year, like something special is going on. But 696 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, you're living in a moment, and 697 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: so you don't allow yourself to go there to think 698 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: about what the possibility can be, because you know, it's 699 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: it's a nown game, it's a moment game. It's it's 700 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: what are you doing now, don't look ahead, don't look 701 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: behind you, and so um, it's easy to say retro 702 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: spread expect that, yes, you know, we do that something 703 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: special is gonna happened. But honestly, we were proud just 704 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: to live in a moment. People just loved this guy. 705 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: LT could have been mayor, he probably could have been 706 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: governor of the state of California. He's so popular.