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Speaker 1: Vie. Sure it's time, Levell Welcome to the Naughty but

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Speaker 1: Nice I'm your hostrom Shooter. It's Thursday, which means our

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Speaker 1: dear friend Mark lub joins us. Hey, Loopy are you there?

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Speaker 2: Loopy lovis here? Happy? Plead a dream?

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Speaker 1: Loopy lou Yours was the first text I got yesterday,

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Speaker 1: wishing me a happy birthday. Hey, thank you naughties, everybody

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Speaker 1: that reached out, that texted me, that d m me,

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Speaker 1: that sent an email. I love you all. I promised

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to some of them today. It

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Speaker 1: was so overwhelming just to see how much love was

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Speaker 1: coming in. I'm really grateful for it. Although yesterday I

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Speaker 1: did take a little time off, I wasn't answering texts

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Speaker 1: or emails very much. Yesterday I actually took a day off,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty rare for me Mark, and it's a

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Speaker 1: lovely thing to do. At first, I felt almost guilty.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like that if you're not working

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Speaker 1: working working? I feel like, oh my goodness, I'm missing

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Speaker 1: an arm or a leg. And then a few hours

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Speaker 1: into the day I started to relax. You work all

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 1: It's difficult, isn't it? To walk away? From your devices,

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Speaker 1: even on your birthday or holiday. What do you think

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Speaker 2: But I think you know what on that day, it's

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Speaker 2: your day. But they do not disturb on and just

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Speaker 2: enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: You do not disturb. Oh talking about do not disturb.

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Speaker 1: Mark Lupo was listening to our show last week and

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Speaker 1: noticed a few pings and it was my notification buttons away.

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Speaker 1: Now I knew this was happening, I just didn't actually

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Speaker 1: understand how or why. And so Mark, I think I've

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Speaker 1: managed to turn it off. So naughties, if you've been

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Speaker 1: suffering through my constant flow of email is my constant

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Speaker 1: text things throughout the show, Maybe today we're going to

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Speaker 1: be ping, free fingers, cross lists, jump in, what time

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Speaker 1: is it? My friends time? Big story at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, so Oprah's gone viral. She had a

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Speaker 1: little chat with Kelly Ripper. Kelly Ripper's podcast is fabulous

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Speaker 1: because Kelly is a little bit gossipy off the show.

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Speaker 1: Kelly's great on the show, but off the show she's

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Speaker 1: really I think you get to see the real Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and she's a little bit naughty. And because she's Kelly Ripper,

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Speaker 1: I asked Oprah to do my podcast, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if she would do it. I don't think she would

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Speaker 1: do any podcasts. But when Kelly Ripper asks, Oprah's like, sure,

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Speaker 1: I think without a public sister, without a manager, it

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Speaker 1: was listening to it. Oprah told the story about the sussexes. Now,

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Speaker 1: the story wasn't that great. However, what was great and

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Speaker 1: what has gone viral is Oprah deliberately, dare I say

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Speaker 1: mispronounced their names. She calls them the following the sussx

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Speaker 1: sexist and she said it twice. So you mispronounce something,

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Speaker 1: and I mispronounced words all the time, particularly abs Mark.

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Speaker 1: We might correct ourselves, but we don't double that. Oprah

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Speaker 1: It was really funny. It was a really, really adorable

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Speaker 1: Oprah is the best. Sources close to Oprah tell me

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Speaker 1: she's just having a bit of fun here, lighting up everybody.

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Speaker 1: It was just a joke. Well, the Sussexes who do

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Speaker 1: they're not numbered to have a sense of humor about themselves,

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Speaker 1: me that they're a little bit stung by this mark.

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Speaker 1: They're a little bit hurt. They thought she was family,

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Speaker 2: You know, Oprah is at an age at hour, she's older,

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Speaker 1: Oprah knows this better than anybody goodness knows. Ever, the

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Speaker 1: It's not that important. Kelly Rippertoo is a cool person.

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Speaker 1: She's not looking for nasty, naughty gossip. It's not like

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Speaker 1: Oprah went on the Megan Kelly Show, well Bethany Frankel,

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Speaker 1: I thought this was quite adorable. I do like what

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Speaker 1: You do not, but you're you're a little bit more sensitive,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more God today, I stare, I say,

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Speaker 2: and as you're building your career and as you're building

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Speaker 1: a billion dollars like Oprah can do what she wants.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thinks here that gossip's bag. Laughing about somebody is bad. No,

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Speaker 2: It's not. You know, my friends make fun of me

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Speaker 2: It's like we know each other well enough that you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, not even a flaw, but it's part of yourself.

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Speaker 1: Nice rob Our facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be

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Speaker 1: sure to check back to morrow to hear your results. Hey, Loopy,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on?

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Speaker 2: This is a bit of a shocking story, rob So.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift kept her dad's major heart surgery a secret

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Speaker 2: It's pretty serious, so sort as to say, Taylor camped

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Speaker 1: What do you think You think that because you're one

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Speaker 1: I think most outlets, most legitimate outlets, outlets like our own,

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Speaker 1: don't think this is that uncommon. I think in my

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Speaker 1: getting the story at It's not notifying relatives, it's making

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