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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome man, Episode one ninety one. What's right
Speaker 2: with Nick Wright? Apologies for the people watching live on
Speaker 2: YouTube this morning for the substantial delay. We had a
Speaker 2: slight internet issue here at Trentadge in Harlem. It has
Speaker 2: been since been worked out. But because of that, and
Speaker 2: I know I promised this five out of shows and
Speaker 2: I don't always deliver it, we are gonna try to
Speaker 2: have a nice, clean, tight, efficient show today. We will
Speaker 2: get to all of that. Also, it sounds like Demonse
Speaker 2: might need his headphones lowered a bit. While you guys
Speaker 2: do that, I will tell you all what missed the cut.
Speaker 2: Here's what is not on today's show. Daniel Jones maybe
Speaker 2: out for the well it is out for the year,
Speaker 2: and might have played his last snap with the New
Speaker 2: York Giants. The Celtics suffer their first loss thanks to
Speaker 2: the incandescent Anthony Edwards and Nikoli Jokic passes Lebron James
Speaker 2: in all time triple doubles. Demonse, where we must begin, though,
Speaker 2: is with a football game that if you were on
Speaker 2: the West Coast you probably didn't see. But if you weren't,
Speaker 2: you missed a heck of a performance from arguably the
Speaker 2: best defense in the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Demonse, go right ahead, doesn't matter what the Chiefs are, man,
Speaker 3: they're gonna get the dub. So the candle business over
Speaker 3: the Dolphins twenty one to fourteen. Everybody's saying, the bigger
Speaker 3: problem is how the Dolphins is how the Dolphins can't
Speaker 3: seem to beat really good teams. Every team they've beaten
Speaker 3: is below five hundred and quite yep, far below five hundred. Actually,
Speaker 3: would you rather defending champs get their roses? Or is
Speaker 3: it better for the doubt and bulletin board material to
Speaker 3: keep flowing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So all I answer that I know Demonte I
Speaker 2: think is having some ear piece issues, but I think
Speaker 2: we'll get that figured out. While I answer hopefully here
Speaker 2: is I understand. Folks are now have adjusted what is
Speaker 2: expected of the Chiefs to away to where they flatly
Speaker 2: will not accept them being a different type of great
Speaker 2: football team that despite the fact that only one team
Speaker 2: in the league has a better record, despite the fact
Speaker 2: that they're the one seed because and despite the fact
Speaker 2: that they were or they won the Super Bowl last
Speaker 2: year with this exact offense, with the exception of Juju
Speaker 2: Smith Schuster was on the team last year and Rashi
Speaker 2: Rice was not, people are convincing themselves there is something
Speaker 2: deeply wrong with the Chiefs. If they are not high flying,
Speaker 2: if they are not a dynamic, dynamite offense, which up
Speaker 2: to this point they have not been. There is no
Speaker 2: denying the fact that up to this point what the
Speaker 2: Chiefs have been is an above average offense. Number four
Speaker 2: in the offense in the NFL in yards per game,
Speaker 2: number twelve in the offense in points per game, or
Speaker 2: in the NFL in points per game. So you know,
Speaker 2: a fringe top ten offense firmly in the top ten yards,
Speaker 2: just outside the top ten in points, and a dominant
Speaker 2: defense that just held the Miami Dolphins in Tua Tongue
Speaker 2: of Ailoa to fourteen points, had Tiekill have his worst
Speaker 2: game in more than a year, and folks simply don't
Speaker 2: want that to be how the Chiefs win games. But
Speaker 2: the question I posed to everyone on first things first,
Speaker 2: and I will pose to the audience right now, is
Speaker 2: the following, do you think Patrick Mahomes is an all
Speaker 2: time great quarterback? I think everyone is going to say
Speaker 2: yes to that. Now, I'm not gonna ask the next
Speaker 2: question that you think I'm gonna ask. I am now
Speaker 2: gonna say, replace Patrick Mahomes in your mind's eye with
Speaker 2: any other all time great quarterback in his prime. Any
Speaker 2: other one. Pick Peyton, pick Brady, pick Rogers in his prime,
Speaker 2: pick Marino, pick any of the other guys that are
Speaker 2: in the Patrick Mahomes echelon, and ask yourselves this, If
Speaker 2: that quarterback in hit the pro time of his career,
Speaker 2: had a consensus top three defense and a consensus top
Speaker 2: three head coach, would that team be head and Shoulders
Speaker 2: clearly the scariest team and the best team in the league.
Speaker 2: If you took Apex Peyton Manning and gave him a
Speaker 2: top three defense and a coach you love, would that
Speaker 2: be the scariest team in the league? Tom Brady with
Speaker 2: a top three defense and a coach you love, would
Speaker 2: that automatically be the scariest team in the league? If
Speaker 2: you then add to it that they were the defending
Speaker 2: champions and their seven and two with one bad game,
Speaker 2: one bad loss all year, with the tiebreaker over one
Speaker 2: divisional leader in Jacksonville, just got the tiebreaker over another
Speaker 2: divisional leader Miami. What would we be talking about now?
Speaker 2: You might say, well, that doesn't guarantee you're gonna win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Of course, winning Super Bowl is hard.
Speaker 2: Single elimination postseasons are difficult on all fronts. But is
Speaker 2: it not correct for me to say there has been
Speaker 2: a wildly disproportionate amount of what is wrong with the
Speaker 2: Chiefs for a team that every single team in the
Speaker 2: league from a raw record perspective would trade places with
Speaker 2: the Chiefs except for Philly, and from a holistic perspective,
Speaker 2: every team in the league. If you could trade quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: would you trade with the Chiefs? Of course you would.
Speaker 2: Every team in the league. If you could trade coaches,
Speaker 2: would you trade with the Chiefs? At least twenty nine
Speaker 2: of them would, and every team in the league if
Speaker 2: you could trade defenses with the Chiefs, would you twenty
Speaker 2: eight of them would? So what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: So is it that I and this just unrepentant Kansas
Speaker 2: City homer? I won't recognize this is clearly a flawed
Speaker 2: damage team? Or am I the only one seeing this
Speaker 2: clearly go ahead demands?
Speaker 3: It looks like I want to say, I think maybe
Speaker 3: the problem is the Chiefs aren't as dominant as you
Speaker 3: may describe. You're always talking about how the Chiefs never
Speaker 3: blow anybody out. Why is that? Why is it that
Speaker 3: they never blow anybody out? They're always playing games, But
Speaker 3: other teams have the ability to blow these teams out
Speaker 3: of the water. So that I mean, in Week one
Speaker 3: they lost to them, and then you know, I consider it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a bad loss. Lines are rolling,
Speaker 3: but like when you look at what other teams have
Speaker 3: done to them, it's just like it's crazy when you
Speaker 3: put two and two together.
Speaker 2: No, so listen, the Chiefs, I guess from a style
Speaker 2: points perspective, I know that they don't blow people out,
Speaker 2: except for, of course, when they do so, they blow
Speaker 2: out the Chargers, they blew out the Bears those games.
Speaker 2: You know, we're just gonna we're This is another thing
Speaker 2: we do where it's like, well, if you take out
Speaker 2: the times the offense has look great, the offense hasn't
Speaker 2: looked great. Well, yeah, I agree with that. And if
Speaker 2: you take out the wins, they've only lost, and so yes,
Speaker 2: the Ravens. The Ravens in the last three weeks have
Speaker 2: two wins the likes of which the Chiefs don't have.
Speaker 2: A blowout victory, a blowout, dominant victory over two good teams,
Speaker 2: maybe not great teams in Detroit and Seattle, but two
Speaker 2: good teams. But in the interim of that, what the
Speaker 2: Ravens have is two bad losses. The Chiefs have won
Speaker 2: a closer than you would have liked game the well,
Speaker 2: you know what, I can't call the Cardinals game closer
Speaker 2: than you would have liked. It ended up closer than
Speaker 2: you would have liked, but it wasn't actually close. The
Speaker 2: Ravens dominated that game. Right now this moment, if you
Speaker 2: had if none of us had ever seen the NFL,
Speaker 2: we would definitely say they If we didn't had no
Speaker 2: context of history that the Ravens have a very strong
Speaker 2: argument that they're the best team. I get that, But
Speaker 2: because we have and because right now the Ravens have
Speaker 2: the number one scoring defense and then the Chiefs are
Speaker 2: right there with the number two scoring defense. So you
Speaker 2: call the defense as a wash, it's not ridiculous to
Speaker 2: say that. Well, on one hand, you have a guy
Speaker 2: who is building a resume. Well, if we're talking about
Speaker 2: what they're going to look like in the postseason, Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson's biggest question mark of his career is his postseason performance.
Speaker 2: He's won one playoff game ever in we have seen
Speaker 2: Lamar be dominant in regular seasons throughout his career and
Speaker 2: then either be hurt for the postseason or play poorly
Speaker 2: in the postseason. And the opposite's the case with Kansas City.
Speaker 2: But I'm not even asking that everyone acknowledged what I
Speaker 2: think is so clearly true that the Chiefs check every
Speaker 2: box you would want of the Super Bowl favorite, the
Speaker 2: best coach, the best quarterback, a dominant defense, now a
Speaker 2: nick but they they don't have the skill position. Guys, Well,
Speaker 2: you're not going to have a perfect football team. You
Speaker 2: are making tradeoffs, and you saw it on Sunday. The
Speaker 2: Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill for draft picks. They used one
Speaker 2: of those draft picks on Trent mcduffee. Tyreek Hill and
Speaker 2: trmp mcduffee literally ran into each other and Trent mcduffee
Speaker 2: ripped the ball out of his hands. And they won
Speaker 2: the game because of it. And people are still like, ah,
Speaker 2: they missed Tyreek Hill. Yes, this team with Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: would be better, But would this team be better with
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill without Trimp McDuffie, without the other draft picks
Speaker 2: they were able to make because of that trade, without
Speaker 2: the cap the salary cap space they were able to
Speaker 2: acquire because of that trade. I don't agree. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that. And there is also, and this is the
Speaker 2: part that is simply baffling to me, the proof of
Speaker 2: concept of they not only do they win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: they won the Super Bowl by scoring thirty eight points
Speaker 2: of being the highest scoring team in the NFL last
Speaker 2: year without Tyreek Hill. And so I there has been
Speaker 2: so much hand ringing about what's wrong with the Chiefs
Speaker 2: and the answer is nothing. So the answer is, go ahead.
Speaker 3: You guys aren't like you guys aren't hurting for Tyreek kill,
Speaker 3: but you could use Tyreek h Tyrek kill would be yeah,
Speaker 3: everything you say that you guys all missed him, but
Speaker 3: like kind of like you guys kind of do like
Speaker 3: as far as like the production that you get from
Speaker 3: the receivers.
Speaker 2: But you this is okay, here's the point that I
Speaker 2: am making. Demon's I'm gonna use. I'm just gonna make
Speaker 2: use a bad analogy, but I'm going to use it. Okay.
Speaker 2: Let's say you had a really fancy, nice computer, okay,
Speaker 2: and you traded it to someone for an electric bicycle
Speaker 2: because you needed a way to get to work. And
Speaker 2: now you have a way to get to work and
Speaker 2: you're using it, but you don't have the computer. You
Speaker 2: missed the computer. You wish you had it, but you
Speaker 2: decided to get rid of it for something you needed more.
Speaker 2: And by the way, you have with some money, you
Speaker 2: got the electric bicycle and one thousand bucks, and with
Speaker 2: that thousand bucks you bought a couch. So you're sitting
Speaker 2: on your couch missing your computer, but you get to
Speaker 2: and from work with your bike. This idea. Every time
Speaker 2: you make a trade, you are giving up something of
Speaker 2: value to get something of value back. But since they
Speaker 2: made that trade, there has been one Super Bowl played,
Speaker 2: they won it. There's been one full season played. They
Speaker 2: had the highest scoring offense in the league, their quarterback
Speaker 2: one league MVP. And this year what you are seeing
Speaker 2: is the fruits of with that trade. We drafted a
Speaker 2: bunch of defensive players and we have the best defense
Speaker 2: in the history of the team. And people are still like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they should have done it. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm just baffled by it. I'm and I don't actually
Speaker 2: think here's the last point. I don't think people actually
Speaker 2: believe it. I don't think people. I think people want
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to have to win shootouts, and seeing them
Speaker 2: be able to win games when the offense isn't clicking
Speaker 2: is so a weird and be scary. They're trying to
Speaker 2: speak and to exist in some major issue. But I'm
Speaker 2: just asking what team in the league wouldn't trade places
Speaker 2: with Kansas City And you can say Philly, but I
Speaker 2: and Philly, by the way, has been they have handled
Speaker 2: their business this year, and they've handled their business a
Speaker 2: game better than Kansas City has. And you know what,
Speaker 2: I'll ask it another way. I'm gonna ask it one
Speaker 2: other way and then we'll move on when the playoffs
Speaker 2: roll around. No matter who the Chiefs are playing, if
Speaker 2: their next round opponent is set. So if the Chiefs
Speaker 2: are playing the final game of divisional round weekend or
Speaker 2: the final game of conference championship weekend, okay, and the
Speaker 2: other teams are set, and all these other teams are like,
Speaker 2: all right, We're on to the next round. No matter
Speaker 2: who the Chiefs are playing. Are those other teams rooting
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs to win or the other team to win?
Speaker 2: If the Ravens have advanced to the conference championship game
Speaker 2: and it's Chiefs Bengals, who are the Ravens rooting for?
Speaker 2: They want to play the Chiefs and this flawed offense.
Speaker 2: If the Eagles or the Niners or the or the
Speaker 2: Lions have made the Super Bowl and it's Chiefs Ravens
Speaker 2: in the conference championship game, who is the other team
Speaker 2: rooting for? Because that's who they would They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: give us the Chiefs. Of course, not every team in
Speaker 2: the league is hoping the Chiefs get upset because they're
Speaker 2: the scariest team in the league to face. That's undeniable.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk Eagles. Now go ahead, all right.
Speaker 3: The Eagles proved again who's the top dog in the
Speaker 3: NFC with their win over Dallas. Defense obviously had some
Speaker 3: problems in Jalen Hurts looks a little hurt. Are things
Speaker 3: are as sunny in Philadelphia as they seem right now?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Jalen is hurt. And I thought he was good,
Speaker 2: not great in that game. But because he was injured,
Speaker 2: you give him a great grade because he fought through it.
Speaker 2: And I think Philly is an imperfect team, not because
Speaker 2: of Jalen, but most notably because, as I said before
Speaker 2: the game, and I listen, I know I picked the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I was wrong, but a lot of the reasons I
Speaker 2: picked the Cowboys ended up being proven out. If if
Speaker 2: you can block Philly, you can cook their secondary just undeniably,
Speaker 2: if you the teams that right now this year, here's
Speaker 2: a stat. There have been nineteen three hundred yard, three
Speaker 2: touchdown passing games in the NFL all year. There have
Speaker 2: been nineteen of them. Okay, all thirty two teams, all
Speaker 2: ten weeks. Nineteen times a quarterback has thrown for three
Speaker 2: hundred yards and three touchdowns within one game. Philadelphia has
Speaker 2: allowed four of the nineteen so almost a quarter of
Speaker 2: the hands down, holy crap, great quarterbacking performances this year
Speaker 2: have been allowed by Philly. Now the flip side to
Speaker 2: that stat is the phillyeen that Philly didn't allow. Those
Speaker 2: teams are one in fourteen. The team that allowed three
Speaker 2: hundred yards and three touchdowns passing fifteen times, Philly's not involved.
Speaker 2: Those teams have one win in fourteen losses. Philly has
Speaker 2: allowed four. They're four and up. Philly is undefeated allowing
Speaker 2: these amazing passing games. The rest of the league is
Speaker 2: one in fourteen. Now they're allowing them way more than
Speaker 2: any other team. Philadelphia is best positioned of any team
Speaker 2: in the NFC. I do the Niners. You know, we
Speaker 2: didn't see him this weekend, but last time we saw him,
Speaker 2: their quarterback was spiraling and they'd lost three straight. The
Speaker 2: Lions might not be quite ready for prime time, but
Speaker 2: I do think the Lions could block Philly, and Dallas
Speaker 2: is right there. But Philly just beat them, and now
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be an uphill battle for Dallas
Speaker 2: to not have that game in Philadelphia if they were
Speaker 2: to play in the postseason. So Philly has handled its business.
Speaker 2: They are incredibly sharp in how they go forward on
Speaker 2: fourth downs, brotherly shove or not. But they have to
Speaker 2: me a glaring weakness that if they were to get
Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl, I think most notably Kansas
Speaker 2: City and Cincinnati could absolutely take advantage of and maybe Baltimore.
Speaker 2: So I Philadelphia, I don't know how they're gonna shore
Speaker 2: up that secondary they traded for. Bayered Sligh and Bradbury
Speaker 2: haven't been good this year.
Speaker 3: With the Chiefs and the Eagles as far as the
Speaker 3: secondary lagging and the Chiefs not having great receivers, Like
Speaker 3: wouldn't that be like that? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they the Chiefs played them in the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl last year with the same receivers and they scored
Speaker 2: thirty eight points. Like that's the thing, like the the idea.
Speaker 2: Now again, maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I am
Speaker 2: greatly undervaluing the contributions of Juju Smith Schuster. But it
Speaker 2: is literally the same receiving corps except Juju's gone and
Speaker 2: Rashi Rice is in. And I think Rashie Rice is
Speaker 2: already tracking towards being better. But I but I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about the Chiefs angle of it. I
Speaker 2: want to get Listen, the Eagles are eight and one
Speaker 2: through nine games. They've had no Super Bowl hangover. They
Speaker 2: now they are another team that is not blowing teams out.
Speaker 2: What they are doing is handling their business. They the
Speaker 2: you know, they blew out Miami kind of they beat
Speaker 2: Miami by fourteen. That was the great drive at the
Speaker 2: end of the game that sapped the clock. They're not
Speaker 2: blowing teams out, but they're winning. They're say it again.
Speaker 2: Oh and they blew up the Fox early in the year. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that's right, but the and they but a lot of
Speaker 2: these If you can't blow you're drawing dead against them.
Speaker 2: If you can block them, they're gonna get in a shootout. Now,
Speaker 2: where I also give Philly credit is Jalen Hurts has
Speaker 2: proven capable of winning these shootouts and aj Brown has
Speaker 2: been exceptional. So listen, Philly is I Philly is right
Speaker 2: now a very legitimate NFC favorite and a deserved NFC favorite.
Speaker 2: I know I picked the Cowboys, but they Philly right
Speaker 2: now has earned it. What's what are you looking like?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: At the top of the NFC, I mean, people like
Speaker 2: the Niners, Lions, and they just beat the Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 2: the NFC's got I think four legit teams. The Seahawks
Speaker 2: have to take a bit of a step back, and
Speaker 2: then there's a bunch of nothing like the Seahawks getting
Speaker 2: rolled the way they got rolled. They've got to take
Speaker 2: a step back at least for the time being. All Right,
Speaker 2: let's go to Monday night football.
Speaker 3: Dwaye, do you want to talk. You've apparently been picking
Speaker 3: a fight with this guy. No, I.
Speaker 2: No, this is always Sonny. He just said they never
Speaker 2: a doubt thing. I don't really care. I didn't. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not I didn't watch the show. I
Speaker 2: know he's not Danny DeVito, and he's not the guy
Speaker 2: from Horrible Bosses, so I'm not really that familiar with him.
Speaker 2: I know he was on It's always Sonny. People get
Speaker 2: mad at me when I say that. I you know
Speaker 2: that when people tweet never a Doubt they're sealing it
Speaker 2: from me that they're like, oh, Nick, You're not the
Speaker 2: first person to say it. Obviously, I'm not the first
Speaker 2: person to say it, am I the first person to
Speaker 2: really popularize it in reference to when you've won a
Speaker 2: football game that there was actually massive doubt about and
Speaker 2: maybe I think I was, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, all right.
Speaker 3: The only thing the Jets had going for them was
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers passing the ball pre game. So he clearly
Speaker 3: wants to come back early from this Achi Lees injury.
Speaker 3: So looking at the Jets schedule, what's realistic for him
Speaker 3: to come back? And when should he come back if
Speaker 3: they want to make a playoff run?
Speaker 2: Okay, he can't. I still do not believe he's going
Speaker 2: to come back, and the Jets are The Jets are cooked.
Speaker 2: The Jets tried to pretend like they were gonna be
Speaker 2: able to get by with Zach Wilson, and because they
Speaker 2: won a few games, we were like, oh maybe they can. No,
Speaker 2: they can't. And you saw it last night and the
Speaker 2: Zach played well against the Chiefs, to his credit, played
Speaker 2: passable against the Broncos, and then he was bad against
Speaker 2: the Eagles and Jalen had the worst game you know,
Speaker 2: he's had in years and gave that game to the Jets.
Speaker 2: The Giants game is the single worst win I've ever
Speaker 2: seen in NFL history. And then they were drawing dead
Speaker 2: against the Chargers. The Jets and I because I said,
Speaker 2: we were gonna be fast today because we got off
Speaker 2: to such a late start. I'm gonna talk about this
Speaker 2: at length on the TV show today, But the way
Speaker 2: the Jets managed the quarterback situation this year was total
Speaker 2: male practice. And I don't know if they were protecting
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers ego or the GM's ego who selected Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: but they were in service of protecting someone's pride. They
Speaker 2: sacrificed any chance at competing for anything this year because
Speaker 2: that defense is excellent. But the people are like, when
Speaker 2: should Aaron come back? I mean, let's be the most
Speaker 2: optimistic you possibly could be and say Aaron actually would
Speaker 2: be available by the very end of the season, or
Speaker 2: call it December that he sets all the records. Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers are gonna come back for a five to eleven team,
Speaker 2: Like that's what we're talking about. No, he's not. And
Speaker 2: they're at the Raiders this week, then at Buffalo, home
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins, home for the Falcons, home for the
Speaker 2: Texans at the Dolphins. Their best case scenario, best case
Speaker 2: is they go two and four over the next six.
Speaker 2: That puts them that puts them at six and eight
Speaker 2: and totally cooked. So no, I mean, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a ten win team in the AFC that misses the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And by the way, like the offensive line is still
Speaker 2: the idea that you're just going to come back on one.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Next?
Speaker 3: Wait, so, do you think the Chargers have any life
Speaker 3: like with the with the win last night or do
Speaker 3: you want to go we want to go over that
Speaker 3: at all? No?
Speaker 2: I mean, I listen, the win last night doesn't mean
Speaker 2: much to me for the Chargers. The Chargers season was
Speaker 2: on the line against Kansas City and they didn't show up.
Speaker 2: They since then have beaten the Bears and the Jets,
Speaker 2: and you know, you're happy for him, but they already
Speaker 2: have four losses. They have games left against the Lions,
Speaker 2: the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs. Two divisional games
Speaker 2: against the Broncos, who aren't good with division games are hard,
Speaker 2: and then road games at the Packers that shouldn't be hard,
Speaker 2: at the Patriots that shouldn't be hard, and at the
Speaker 2: Raiders a road divisional game. I mean, the Chargers feel
Speaker 2: like they're gonna charger this and be nine and eight
Speaker 2: and maybe going into the final week of the season.
Speaker 2: The most vintage way for this Chargers season to end
Speaker 2: would be for them to be nine and seven going
Speaker 2: into Week eighteen at home against the Chiefs. Have the
Speaker 2: Chargers be in a win and in situation, and the
Speaker 2: Chiefs be in a already clinched the one seed, benching
Speaker 2: Mahomes for rest situation, and the Chargers still lose the game.
Speaker 2: That would be like the most vented Chargers season possible.
Speaker 2: Is like you when you look at the schedule and
Speaker 2: you're in the AFC West, you are praying that one
Speaker 2: of your two Chiefs games is Week eighteen because there's
Speaker 2: a chance the Chiefs are resting people there there you're
Speaker 2: a massive dog. Well the I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 2: understand the Chiefs lost Week one this year, but the
Speaker 2: prior to that, they had never lost Week one. The
Speaker 2: with Mahomes, you're hoping, if it's a division you gotta
Speaker 2: play a divisional game in the final week of the year,
Speaker 2: and you're hoping that's your Chiefs game because if they've
Speaker 2: clinched a few years ago, the Chargers beat the Chiefs
Speaker 2: in this exact scenario, Mahomes was. It was Herbert Tricky year.
Speaker 2: I think Mahomes was resting that started arresting and the
Speaker 2: Chargers got the win, but I think the Chargers are
Speaker 2: a nine to eighteen that misses the postseason. I picked
Speaker 2: them to make the playoffs for the year. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that's who they are. All right, go ahead, all right?
Speaker 3: C J. Stroud has exceeded expectations as a rookie. He's
Speaker 3: breaking records. Houston's thrilled. But you hinted how this emergence
Speaker 3: added to the disproportionate, disproported disproportion at quarterback talent in
Speaker 3: the a f C versus NFC. So we're gonna do
Speaker 3: a nick makes it right? Uh? How should the league
Speaker 3: go about fixing the quarterback and balance in the NFL?
Speaker 2: There's no way to fix it. I no, I mean
Speaker 2: I joked that we need to do a conference realignment
Speaker 2: based on strength of quarterbacks. But like, here's the and
Speaker 2: I'm not breaking news here, but aside from Jalen and Dak,
Speaker 2: take Jalen Hurts one, Dak Prescott two, who's the next
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the NFC? Jared?
Speaker 3: I mean he's hurt. He's hurt right now.
Speaker 2: Golf's not hurt. Golf's fine. Uh, Kirk Cousins, Golf hurt.
Speaker 2: Kirk Yeah, Kirk's done for the year. He popped his achilles.
Speaker 2: Kirk would have been third or fourth, but he's done
Speaker 2: for the year and isn't then a free agent. If
Speaker 2: you in the AFC, you have Mahomes, what the producers
Speaker 2: have listed Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar Trevor to Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 2: Of the ten best quarterbacks in football, eight of them
Speaker 2: might be in the AFC. It's also why the NFL
Speaker 2: needs Caleb and Drake May to go to the NFC.
Speaker 2: You need some of these young and I don't even
Speaker 2: know that. You know, you can't guarantee Drake May's gonna hit,
Speaker 2: but you need some of these Like this year, the
Speaker 2: Panthers in the NFC had the number one pick, they
Speaker 2: took Bryce Young. The Texans in the AFC had the
Speaker 2: number two pick, they were forced to take CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 2: Just flip those two and you're you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We're in a different situation now the NFC. Maybe people
Speaker 2: believe Kyler is gonna come back and change this where
Speaker 2: people believe in brock Purty in a way I don't.
Speaker 2: But the problem is Kyler is gonna get replaced next
Speaker 2: year by Caleb if they get the number one pick,
Speaker 2: Drake May if they get the number two pick, and
Speaker 2: then where does Kyler go? There's just there's no easy
Speaker 2: way to fix this. But it's just if you're in
Speaker 2: the NFC, you feel like you have so many more opportunities. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: if you're in the AFC, you it is just a
Speaker 2: murderer's row of quarterbacks. And CJ. Stroud, who is having
Speaker 2: one of the best rookie seasons ever and just had
Speaker 2: one of the best games anyone has played in the
Speaker 2: NFL all year, is just you know, Adam to the bunch,
Speaker 2: all right, take quick break, come back, what's right? All right?
Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's right? With Nick? Right? Demon's day?
Speaker 2: What game are we play before we get to right
Speaker 2: or wrong? I should say it's a new month, so
Speaker 2: it's time for another edition of Playing your Flag.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, yeah, play play at your flag. Quick reminder,
Speaker 3: you're going to keep some from last time, and then
Speaker 3: you're gonna replace others. Last month you added the Bengals
Speaker 3: are cooked and Belichick's job security is a hot debate topic.
Speaker 3: Which flags are you replacing this month? Probably both of those?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I said before Week one that the Chiefs
Speaker 2: are the best team in the NFL. Check that Robert
Speaker 2: Sala was gonna end up on the hot seat given
Speaker 2: another few weeks, and then check that the quarterback woes
Speaker 2: will bite the forty nine ers has already happened. Check now,
Speaker 2: then I last month I added that Bill Belichick's job
Speaker 2: security is gonna be a hot debate topic. Check the
Speaker 2: Athletic today they talked about whether or not he could
Speaker 2: be fired mid season if they lose in Germany. Check.
Speaker 2: So I only have room to add one more. Luckily,
Speaker 2: I have a bad one. I said the Bengals were cooked.
Speaker 2: They obviously are not. They're terrifying now. The Bengals are
Speaker 2: in a weird spot. I thought they were cooked because
Speaker 2: I didn't think Joe Burrow was going to be able
Speaker 2: to get healthy by continuing to play football. I was wrong.
Speaker 2: He's fully healthy and they're back to being awesome. Now
Speaker 2: here's the problem for the Bengals. They here's what they
Speaker 2: their next month is home for the Texans, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden tough game, particularly since they have had they've
Speaker 2: essentially been season on the line three weeks in a row.
Speaker 2: Seattle at the Niners home for the Bills, and the
Speaker 2: week after the Texans game, actually the Thursday after the
Speaker 2: Texans game, they're in Baltimore, so that's kind of like
Speaker 2: vintage trap game spot. But the Bengals home for the Texans,
Speaker 2: then at the Ravens home for the Steelers at the Jags. So,
Speaker 2: and then they end the year, by the way, they
Speaker 2: go home for Colts home for Vikings, sure easy, then
Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh at Kansas City home for the Browns. So
Speaker 2: the Bengals are terrifying, and they are also far from
Speaker 2: guaranteed to even be a player team. But if they
Speaker 2: get in, they're I mean, with Joe Burrow playing this way,
Speaker 2: he's hands down the second best quarterback alive, has been
Speaker 2: for a couple of years. I'm glad folks are now
Speaker 2: joining me on that. People aren't. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: hear about Josh Allen quite as much you once did.
Speaker 2: I wonder why so, But the Bengals are not cooked.
Speaker 2: They're not you know, they're they are not fully safe,
Speaker 2: but they're not cooked. So we're gonna remove Bengals are cooked,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna replace it with something we talked about
Speaker 2: last month that despite Philly beating Dallas I still like,
Speaker 2: and that's Detroit being the one seat. The Lions now,
Speaker 2: coming off a bye, they have two losses. What they
Speaker 2: have after the bye at the Chargers. That's always a
Speaker 2: kind of unfair spot, if you ask me, It's not
Speaker 2: only the Lions are coming off a bye, It's that
Speaker 2: the Chargers played on Monday, so the Chargers are on
Speaker 2: a short week. The Lions are on super extended rest.
Speaker 2: After that, they have the Bears, the Packers, the Saints,
Speaker 2: the Bears, the Broncos, the Vikings at the Cowboys, and
Speaker 2: then the Vikings. The Lions to me look like at
Speaker 2: this point a fourteen win team given that schedule, so
Speaker 2: they can be the one seed Philly. And let me
Speaker 2: make sure I'm right on this, but well, the the
Speaker 2: Eagles Lions tiebreaker would come down likely to conference record,
Speaker 2: which would be tricky. I guess it would because they
Speaker 2: eat right now. Philly's one loss is a non con loss.
Speaker 2: The Lions also have one non con loss, so that's
Speaker 2: a tricky one. I think the Lion I think Philly's
Speaker 2: gonna slip up a bit in the coming weeks, even
Speaker 2: though I think Philly's excellent. What they have, and we've
Speaker 2: talked about this at length. They're at Kansas City, then
Speaker 2: home for the Bills, home for the Niners, at the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: at the Seahawks, before they finished with Giants, Cardinals, Giants,
Speaker 2: which is basically, they're gonna have a month off before
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So I think that the Lions catch the Eagles,
Speaker 2: and the Lions of the one seed. That's where I'm
Speaker 2: planning my flag. All right, let's play a game.
Speaker 3: That wasn't the good seed on there, like that wasn't
Speaker 3: coming out on top of their division. Because when we
Speaker 3: placed that bet a while ago, I was under the
Speaker 3: impression that it was them finishing over.
Speaker 2: You thought we were getting fifty demonse. You thought we
Speaker 2: were getting lost four on them winning the division.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, honestly, buddy.
Speaker 2: They were like minus five hundred to win the division.
Speaker 2: They were the massive favorite. That's why you liked that
Speaker 2: bet so much.
Speaker 3: I loved it, and I was I thought it was
Speaker 3: free money. Oh yeah, yeah, chat, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, all right, well, no, we did make that bet,
Speaker 2: but it's to be the one seed, not to win
Speaker 2: the NFC North. Okay, all right, let's.
Speaker 3: Play right or right or wrong? So first, we got
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs here, Vikings quarterback. Josh Dobbs studied aerospace engineering
Speaker 3: in school. Now he's playing out of this world. Despite
Speaker 3: not knowing the playbook or even some of his teammates' names,
Speaker 3: he came in and let an unforgettable win for his
Speaker 3: third team three months. Right or wrong, playing quarterback is
Speaker 3: not rocket science.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Josh Doobbs obviously a brilliant guy, and what
Speaker 2: he did this weekend is remarkable and he deserves all
Speaker 2: the credit in the world. But and I tweeted this,
Speaker 2: and we can be fast on it. But I am
Speaker 2: old enough to remember in the midst of the obvious
Speaker 2: blackballing of Colin Kaepernick, that with when he had only
Speaker 2: been blackballed for like a year and was still in
Speaker 2: football shape and still available. And even if people were like, ah,
Speaker 2: he's not a great quarterback, but he was obviously good
Speaker 2: enough to play in the NFL. Whenever a quarterback would
Speaker 2: get hurt and people would be like, hey, you could
Speaker 2: sign cap what all of that just the talking points
Speaker 2: from the entirety of NFL media was well, really, what
Speaker 2: would be the point because even if they sign him,
Speaker 2: you can you can't play quarterback unless you've been there
Speaker 2: for at least a month six weeks. By that time,
Speaker 2: the quarterback's back, like he's got to be there for
Speaker 2: a long time. And since then, just in the last
Speaker 2: nine months of football, we've seen Baker Mayfield get signed
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday and lead a game winning ninety eight
Speaker 2: yard drive for the Rams on like Thursday Night Football
Speaker 2: or whatever the hell that was if you remember that game,
Speaker 2: and Josh Dobbs get traded midweek, not know anyone's name,
Speaker 2: learn the cadence on the sideline and play awesome. So
Speaker 2: maybe just maybe that you. Yes, it is not an
Speaker 2: ideal situation, but it's doable, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, all right, everyone's finally joining me on the raven bandwagon.
Speaker 3: He just blew out the Seahawks and destroyed a teaser
Speaker 3: and are looking dominant on both sides of the football.
Speaker 2: DeMont loves the Ravens and then just teases against them and.
Speaker 3: Losing and we show on Thursday. But I'm literally never
Speaker 3: doing that again, like even watching the games. It's so
Speaker 3: kind of weird. But right or wrong, Ravens are the
Speaker 3: Chief's biggest threat.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Cincinnati has earned the title because they've played
Speaker 2: the Chiefs tough, and they have the only quarterback in
Speaker 2: the league that's beaten Patrick Mahomes in a game that mattered. Oh, Nick,
Speaker 2: all the games matter. Just to be very clear, because
Speaker 2: I said this on TV yesterday and people didn't quite
Speaker 2: understand it. What is the point of the regular season
Speaker 2: demonse playoff seeding right to determine who has the highest seed,
Speaker 2: who has home field? All of this. Since Patrick Mahonmes
Speaker 2: been on the Chiefs, have they ever had to play
Speaker 2: a road playoff game? No, so they either been the
Speaker 2: one seed or been the default one seed because the
Speaker 2: one seed lost every single year. So they literally have
Speaker 2: not had a damaging regular season loss because they've been
Speaker 2: in perfect seeding and playoff positioning every single year. So
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has lost three games that mattered in his career,
Speaker 2: one to Tom Brady as a Patriot, one to Tom
Speaker 2: Brady as a Buck, and one to Joe Burrow. So
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is the only quarterback alive that has beaten
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in the game that matters. Because of that,
Speaker 2: his team gets the title of the scariest team. They
Speaker 2: have earned that now to the Ravens and people go
Speaker 2: ahead demant say.
Speaker 3: Go go nothing. I just say that, like some get
Speaker 3: I hate bringing it back there, dude, But like, would
Speaker 3: you say the first game of the season matters, I'd say,
Speaker 3: that's a pretty big game.
Speaker 2: Let's see, Well let's see. You mean the Lions game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, let's see if Chiefs get the
Speaker 2: one seed. How much does it mean.
Speaker 3: For your soul?
Speaker 2: But certainly matters for the other team maybe. But I'm
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is if the Chiefs end up with
Speaker 2: the number one seed this year at fifteen and two
Speaker 2: or fourteen.
Speaker 3: None of it would have mattered, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just I'm just asking. I'm the here's I
Speaker 2: am asking that if if you end up achieving your
Speaker 2: the maximum, the biggest reward for the regular season is
Speaker 2: playoff seeding. If you end up with the number one seed,
Speaker 2: then I would argue the losses didn't matter. Now, if
Speaker 2: you end up being a game out of that one
Speaker 2: seed mattered greatly, We'll see. So we'll see if that
Speaker 2: game ended up mattering for the Chiefs. Now to the
Speaker 2: Ravens and the point I was trying to make, and
Speaker 2: people will get mad, But a quick history lesson on
Speaker 2: Lamar in the Ravens. Lamar's first year in the league,
Speaker 2: he did not start until late in the season. He
Speaker 2: took over a middling at best team. They immediately went
Speaker 2: six and one, looked awesome, and then in the playoffs
Speaker 2: he was terrible. Lamar's second year in the league, he
Speaker 2: started from day one. They not only started six and two,
Speaker 2: they finished fourteen in two he was the league MVP unanimously,
Speaker 2: and in the playoffs looked terrible. Then next year the
Speaker 2: Ravens started you guessed it, six and two, and then
Speaker 2: in the playoffs beat the Titans and then lost to
Speaker 2: the Bills. The next year he started six and three
Speaker 2: and then got hurt. And last year they started seven
Speaker 2: and three and then he got hurt. I say all
Speaker 2: that to say this, the Ravens are in the I'll
Speaker 2: believe it when I see it in the postseason. Group. Sorry,
Speaker 2: we do this in sports all the time. This is
Speaker 2: essentially what the uh James Harden Rockets turned into. At
Speaker 2: some point it was like, Yep, great regular season, I'll
Speaker 2: believe it when I see it in the playoffs. I
Speaker 2: need to see you come through. So the Ravens defense
Speaker 2: has been unbelievable, and Lamar has a case. He has
Speaker 2: been the MVP of the league, but there is and
Speaker 2: I take the team very seriously, but there is a
Speaker 2: bit of a I have seen it fall on its
Speaker 2: face too many times in the postseason that Ravens operation
Speaker 2: for me to fully believe in them, and I think
Speaker 2: that's fair. I think that's what a lot of people
Speaker 2: do with the Gubins. He's paid and they have more weapons.
Speaker 2: But I need to see it. All right, let's do
Speaker 2: the Raiders.
Speaker 3: All right. But it looks at their celebration you would
Speaker 3: think that the Raiders had just won a playoff game,
Speaker 3: but they were actually lighting up cigars to celebrate beating
Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito and the Giants to move to four and five.
Speaker 3: Right or wrong, Raiders were celebrating firing McDaniels, not the win.
Speaker 2: I mean both. They were celebrating both. They wouldn't have
Speaker 2: done that had they lost. And I understand that a
Speaker 2: lot of people think it's a bad look. I thought
Speaker 2: it was charming. They were just so sick of McDaniels.
Speaker 2: They gotta win. They played great. Good for them. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna rain Jimmy. The Raiders haven't the oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Raiders haven't had many good moments lately. All right,
Speaker 2: de Monsei, Let's skip all the way down to the
Speaker 2: college football game, because you were at what I thought
Speaker 2: was gonna be the college football game of the year
Speaker 2: Washington USC. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went to the first my first college
Speaker 3: basketball or football game with Daniel Victor and the guys
Speaker 3: Chauncey shout out to Chauncey.
Speaker 2: Instead of even asking me the question, hold on, instead
Speaker 2: of even asking me the question. I don't care. I
Speaker 2: don't care that Caleb tell me what you thought of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a that was This is unfortunate. But
Speaker 3: I do think that his play style is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: It's the it's the little move that he does, like
Speaker 3: where he liked, the little angle that he takes where
Speaker 3: he gets. I mean, somebody did a front flip when
Speaker 3: we saw the game the other day.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I thought it was cool. But I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: he's gonna have guys like Joey Bosa pulling up on him,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if that's the same type of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's gonna fly. But I mean, obviously, athleticism is gonna
Speaker 3: follow you wherever you go. But uh, but I'm curious
Speaker 3: to see how it translates to the pros.
Speaker 2: But do you think of the environment at the USC?
Speaker 3: It was crazy, It was crazy. It was It was
Speaker 3: the most people that I've been around in a very
Speaker 3: long time. It was like so many people. Man, energy
Speaker 3: was great. Uh. I really like the music that the
Speaker 3: band was playing a lot of familiar songs that I
Speaker 3: just didn't expect them to like do it instrumental to.
Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, no, it was. It was a
Speaker 3: great experiens. No defense was played. Got to see a
Speaker 3: lot of offense. It's very cool.
Speaker 2: Who's wearing the Michigan outfit? And why are they wear
Speaker 2: Michigan outfit?
Speaker 3: To Quincy Quincy Quincy, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Just drop an F bombs. You're saying one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred all right, So go through the
Speaker 2: questions as they start with Joe Joey.
Speaker 3: Joey Demontel said, Nick, do you think C. J. Stroud
Speaker 3: has the potential to be a top three quarterback in
Speaker 3: the league with Mahomes and Burrow?
Speaker 2: But sure, I mean the I mean a fun exercise
Speaker 2: that I was doing the uh yesterday off the air,
Speaker 2: was you get any quarterback you want just take Caleb
Speaker 2: out of it. Just guys, are the pros for the
Speaker 2: next decade. Mahomes is the first pick, Burrows the second pick.
Speaker 2: Who's the third? Some would argue Lamar, some would argue Jalen.
Speaker 2: I think CJ would get some votes. I think see
Speaker 2: if we're talking long term, I think Seed. I think Trevor.
Speaker 2: Obviously some would argue Trevor, but he's put himself. He
Speaker 2: has acquitted himself as well as someone can through half
Speaker 2: a season, all right.
Speaker 3: Next Daniel christ Chriss, Should the Packers be throwing the
Speaker 3: rest of throwing the rest of their season? Do they
Speaker 3: have a chance for a good quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 2: I don't know that they have to throw the rest
Speaker 2: of their season. I mean they might just be losing games.
Speaker 2: I mean the Packers are really really bad now. They
Speaker 2: have games left against the Giants, Panthers, and Bears.
Speaker 3: So I the that.
Speaker 2: But somebody I believe in Shador as at least an
Speaker 2: interesting NFL prospect, and he's not gonna go top five
Speaker 2: if he goes in this year's draft. Now, I'd be
Speaker 2: very interesting for to see Shador be like, Hey, guess
Speaker 2: what should or are you're going to Green Bay, Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: have fun and so but I mean the Packers, obviously
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to move off love. I think after
Speaker 2: this year, all right, and let's go to.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what Deco Bird wanted to ask about
Speaker 2: the NBA In season tournament. I need to see more
Speaker 2: of it. We only saw the one games of pool play,
Speaker 2: and Ali said, DEMANDE quit fading the ravens and your teasers.
Speaker 2: All good points. I gotta get to work. I'll see
Speaker 2: you guys out Colin today around one o'clock Eastern. I'll
Speaker 2: see you on First Things versus Three? What's right