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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome man, Episode one ninety one. What's right

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Speaker 2: with Nick Wright? Apologies for the people watching live on

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Speaker 2: YouTube this morning for the substantial delay. We had a

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Speaker 2: slight internet issue here at Trentadge in Harlem. It has

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Speaker 2: been since been worked out. But because of that, and

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Speaker 2: I know I promised this five out of shows and

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Speaker 2: I don't always deliver it, we are gonna try to

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Speaker 2: have a nice, clean, tight, efficient show today. We will

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Speaker 2: get to all of that. Also, it sounds like Demonse

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Speaker 2: might need his headphones lowered a bit. While you guys

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Speaker 2: do that, I will tell you all what missed the cut.

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Speaker 2: Here's what is not on today's show. Daniel Jones maybe

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Speaker 2: out for the well it is out for the year,

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Speaker 2: and might have played his last snap with the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. The Celtics suffer their first loss thanks to

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Speaker 2: the incandescent Anthony Edwards and Nikoli Jokic passes Lebron James

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Speaker 2: in all time triple doubles. Demonse, where we must begin, though,

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Speaker 2: is with a football game that if you were on

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Speaker 2: you missed a heck of a performance from arguably the

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Speaker 3: Demonse, go right ahead, doesn't matter what the Chiefs are, man,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get the dub. So the candle business over

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins twenty one to fourteen. Everybody's saying, the bigger

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Speaker 3: problem is how the Dolphins is how the Dolphins can't

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Speaker 3: seem to beat really good teams. Every team they've beaten

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Speaker 3: is below five hundred and quite yep, far below five hundred. Actually,

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Speaker 3: would you rather defending champs get their roses? Or is

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Speaker 3: it better for the doubt and bulletin board material to

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Speaker 2: Okay, So all I answer that I know Demonte I

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Speaker 2: is I understand. Folks are now have adjusted what is

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Speaker 2: will not accept them being a different type of great

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Speaker 2: year with this exact offense, with the exception of Juju

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Speaker 2: deeply wrong with the Chiefs. If they are not high flying,

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Speaker 2: if they are not a dynamic, dynamite offense, which up

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Speaker 2: to this point they have not been. There is no

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Speaker 2: Single elimination postseasons are difficult on all fronts. But is

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Speaker 2: every team in the league. If you could trade quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: would you trade with the Chiefs? Of course you would.

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Speaker 2: you could trade defenses with the Chiefs, would you twenty

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Speaker 2: eight of them would? So what are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: So is it that I and this just unrepentant Kansas

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Speaker 3: It looks like I want to say, I think maybe

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Speaker 3: the problem is the Chiefs aren't as dominant as you

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Speaker 3: blow anybody out. Why is that? Why is it that

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Speaker 3: they never blow anybody out? They're always playing games, But

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a bad loss. Lines are rolling,

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Speaker 2: No, so listen, the Chiefs, I guess from a style

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Speaker 2: You know, we're just gonna we're This is another thing

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Speaker 2: A blowout victory, a blowout, dominant victory over two good teams,

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Speaker 2: good teams. But in the interim of that, what the

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Speaker 2: you know what, I can't call the Cardinals game closer

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Speaker 2: you would have liked, but it wasn't actually close. The

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Speaker 2: Ravens dominated that game. Right now this moment, if you

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Speaker 2: we would definitely say they If we didn't had no

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Speaker 2: say that. Well, on one hand, you have a guy

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Speaker 2: Jackson's biggest question mark of his career is his postseason performance.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not even asking that everyone acknowledged what I

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Speaker 2: nick but they they don't have the skill position. Guys, Well,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to have a perfect football team. You

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Speaker 2: are making tradeoffs, and you saw it on Sunday. The

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Speaker 2: Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill for draft picks. They used one

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Speaker 2: trmp mcduffee literally ran into each other and Trent mcduffee

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Speaker 2: they missed Tyreek Hill. Yes, this team with Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 2: and the answer is nothing. So the answer is, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: You guys aren't like you guys aren't hurting for Tyreek kill,

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Speaker 3: everything you say that you guys all missed him, but

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Speaker 3: like kind of like you guys kind of do like

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Speaker 2: But you this is okay, here's the point that I

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Speaker 2: use a bad analogy, but I'm going to use it. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you had a really fancy, nice computer, okay,

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you have with some money, you

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Speaker 2: that thousand bucks you bought a couch. So you're sitting

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Speaker 2: they won it. There's been one full season played. They

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they should have done it. I don't.

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Speaker 3: Dwaye, do you want to talk. You've apparently been picking

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Speaker 2: No, this is always Sonny. He just said they never

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Speaker 2: and you're hoping that's your Chiefs game because if they've

430
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Speaker 2: clinched a few years ago, the Chargers beat the Chiefs

431
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Speaker 2: in this exact scenario, Mahomes was. It was Herbert Tricky year.

432
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Speaker 2: I think Mahomes was resting that started arresting and the

433
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Speaker 2: Chargers got the win, but I think the Chargers are

434
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Speaker 2: a nine to eighteen that misses the postseason. I picked

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Speaker 2: them to make the playoffs for the year. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe that's who they are. All right, go ahead, all right?

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Speaker 3: C J. Stroud has exceeded expectations as a rookie. He's

438
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Speaker 3: breaking records. Houston's thrilled. But you hinted how this emergence

439
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Speaker 3: added to the disproportionate, disproported disproportion at quarterback talent in

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Speaker 3: the a f C versus NFC. So we're gonna do

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Speaker 3: a nick makes it right? Uh? How should the league

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Speaker 3: go about fixing the quarterback and balance in the NFL?

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Speaker 2: There's no way to fix it. I no, I mean

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Speaker 2: I joked that we need to do a conference realignment

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Speaker 2: based on strength of quarterbacks. But like, here's the and

446
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Speaker 2: I'm not breaking news here, but aside from Jalen and Dak,

447
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: take Jalen Hurts one, Dak Prescott two, who's the next

448
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the NFC? Jared?

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Speaker 3: I mean he's hurt. He's hurt right now.

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Speaker 2: Golf's not hurt. Golf's fine. Uh, Kirk Cousins, Golf hurt.

451
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: Kirk Yeah, Kirk's done for the year. He popped his achilles.

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Speaker 2: Kirk would have been third or fourth, but he's done

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Speaker 2: for the year and isn't then a free agent. If

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Speaker 2: you in the AFC, you have Mahomes, what the producers

455
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: have listed Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar Trevor to Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: Of the ten best quarterbacks in football, eight of them

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Speaker 2: might be in the AFC. It's also why the NFL

458
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Speaker 2: needs Caleb and Drake May to go to the NFC.

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Speaker 2: You need some of these young and I don't even

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Speaker 2: know that. You know, you can't guarantee Drake May's gonna hit,

461
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Speaker 2: but you need some of these Like this year, the

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Speaker 2: Panthers in the NFC had the number one pick, they

463
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Speaker 2: took Bryce Young. The Texans in the AFC had the

464
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Speaker 2: number two pick, they were forced to take CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: Just flip those two and you're you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We're in a different situation now the NFC. Maybe people

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Speaker 2: believe Kyler is gonna come back and change this where

468
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: people believe in brock Purty in a way I don't.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is Kyler is gonna get replaced next

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Speaker 2: year by Caleb if they get the number one pick,

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Speaker 2: Drake May if they get the number two pick, and

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Speaker 2: then where does Kyler go? There's just there's no easy

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Speaker 2: way to fix this. But it's just if you're in

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Speaker 2: the NFC, you feel like you have so many more opportunities. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: if you're in the AFC, you it is just a

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Speaker 2: murderer's row of quarterbacks. And CJ. Stroud, who is having

477
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Speaker 2: one of the best rookie seasons ever and just had

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Speaker 2: one of the best games anyone has played in the

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Speaker 2: NFL all year, is just you know, Adam to the bunch,

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Speaker 2: all right, take quick break, come back, what's right? All right?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's right? With Nick? Right? Demon's day?

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Speaker 2: What game are we play before we get to right

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Speaker 2: or wrong? I should say it's a new month, so

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Speaker 2: it's time for another edition of Playing your Flag.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, yeah, play play at your flag. Quick reminder,

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Speaker 3: you're going to keep some from last time, and then

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Speaker 3: you're gonna replace others. Last month you added the Bengals

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Speaker 3: are cooked and Belichick's job security is a hot debate topic.

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Speaker 3: Which flags are you replacing this month? Probably both of those?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I said before Week one that the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are the best team in the NFL. Check that Robert

492
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Speaker 2: Sala was gonna end up on the hot seat given

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Speaker 2: another few weeks, and then check that the quarterback woes

494
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: will bite the forty nine ers has already happened. Check now,

495
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Speaker 2: then I last month I added that Bill Belichick's job

496
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Speaker 2: security is gonna be a hot debate topic. Check the

497
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Speaker 2: Athletic today they talked about whether or not he could

498
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Speaker 2: be fired mid season if they lose in Germany. Check.

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Speaker 2: So I only have room to add one more. Luckily,

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Speaker 2: I have a bad one. I said the Bengals were cooked.

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Speaker 2: They obviously are not. They're terrifying now. The Bengals are

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Speaker 2: in a weird spot. I thought they were cooked because

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Speaker 2: I didn't think Joe Burrow was going to be able

504
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: to get healthy by continuing to play football. I was wrong.

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00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: He's fully healthy and they're back to being awesome. Now

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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: here's the problem for the Bengals. They here's what they

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00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: their next month is home for the Texans, all of

508
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: a sudden tough game, particularly since they have had they've

509
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Speaker 2: essentially been season on the line three weeks in a row.

510
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Speaker 2: Seattle at the Niners home for the Bills, and the

511
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Speaker 2: week after the Texans game, actually the Thursday after the

512
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Texans game, they're in Baltimore, so that's kind of like

513
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: vintage trap game spot. But the Bengals home for the Texans,

514
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: then at the Ravens home for the Steelers at the Jags. So,

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Speaker 2: and then they end the year, by the way, they

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Speaker 2: go home for Colts home for Vikings, sure easy, then

517
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh at Kansas City home for the Browns. So

518
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Speaker 2: the Bengals are terrifying, and they are also far from

519
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: guaranteed to even be a player team. But if they

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00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: get in, they're I mean, with Joe Burrow playing this way,

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Speaker 2: he's hands down the second best quarterback alive, has been

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Speaker 2: for a couple of years. I'm glad folks are now

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Speaker 2: joining me on that. People aren't. You know, you don't

524
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: hear about Josh Allen quite as much you once did.

525
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: I wonder why so, But the Bengals are not cooked.

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Speaker 2: They're not you know, they're they are not fully safe,

527
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Speaker 2: but they're not cooked. So we're gonna remove Bengals are cooked,

528
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna replace it with something we talked about

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Speaker 2: last month that despite Philly beating Dallas I still like,

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Speaker 2: and that's Detroit being the one seat. The Lions now,

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Speaker 2: coming off a bye, they have two losses. What they

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Speaker 2: have after the bye at the Chargers. That's always a

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Speaker 2: kind of unfair spot, if you ask me, It's not

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Speaker 2: only the Lions are coming off a bye, It's that

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Speaker 2: the Chargers played on Monday, so the Chargers are on

536
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Speaker 2: a short week. The Lions are on super extended rest.

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Speaker 2: After that, they have the Bears, the Packers, the Saints,

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Speaker 2: the Bears, the Broncos, the Vikings at the Cowboys, and

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Speaker 2: then the Vikings. The Lions to me look like at

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Speaker 2: this point a fourteen win team given that schedule, so

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Speaker 2: they can be the one seed Philly. And let me

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00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: make sure I'm right on this, but well, the the

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Speaker 2: Eagles Lions tiebreaker would come down likely to conference record,

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00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: which would be tricky. I guess it would because they

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00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: eat right now. Philly's one loss is a non con loss.

546
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: The Lions also have one non con loss, so that's

547
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: a tricky one. I think the Lion I think Philly's

548
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: gonna slip up a bit in the coming weeks, even

549
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Speaker 2: though I think Philly's excellent. What they have, and we've

550
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 2: talked about this at length. They're at Kansas City, then

551
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: home for the Bills, home for the Niners, at the Cowboys,

552
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: at the Seahawks, before they finished with Giants, Cardinals, Giants,

553
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: which is basically, they're gonna have a month off before

554
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So I think that the Lions catch the Eagles,

555
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: and the Lions of the one seed. That's where I'm

556
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Speaker 2: planning my flag. All right, let's play a game.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the good seed on there, like that wasn't

558
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Speaker 3: coming out on top of their division. Because when we

559
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: placed that bet a while ago, I was under the

560
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: impression that it was them finishing over.

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Speaker 2: You thought we were getting fifty demonse. You thought we

562
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Speaker 2: were getting lost four on them winning the division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, honestly, buddy.

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Speaker 2: They were like minus five hundred to win the division.

565
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: They were the massive favorite. That's why you liked that

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Speaker 2: bet so much.

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Speaker 3: I loved it, and I was I thought it was

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Speaker 3: free money. Oh yeah, yeah, chat, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, all right, well, no, we did make that bet,

570
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Speaker 2: but it's to be the one seed, not to win

571
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Speaker 2: the NFC North. Okay, all right, let's.

572
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: Play right or right or wrong? So first, we got

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Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs here, Vikings quarterback. Josh Dobbs studied aerospace engineering

574
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: in school. Now he's playing out of this world. Despite

575
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: not knowing the playbook or even some of his teammates' names,

576
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: he came in and let an unforgettable win for his

577
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Speaker 3: third team three months. Right or wrong, playing quarterback is

578
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Speaker 3: not rocket science.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, Josh Doobbs obviously a brilliant guy, and what

580
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: he did this weekend is remarkable and he deserves all

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00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: the credit in the world. But and I tweeted this,

582
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: and we can be fast on it. But I am

583
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: old enough to remember in the midst of the obvious

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Speaker 2: blackballing of Colin Kaepernick, that with when he had only

585
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: been blackballed for like a year and was still in

586
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: football shape and still available. And even if people were like, ah,

587
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: he's not a great quarterback, but he was obviously good

588
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: enough to play in the NFL. Whenever a quarterback would

589
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: get hurt and people would be like, hey, you could

590
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: sign cap what all of that just the talking points

591
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: from the entirety of NFL media was well, really, what

592
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: would be the point because even if they sign him,

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00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: you can you can't play quarterback unless you've been there

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Speaker 2: for at least a month six weeks. By that time,

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00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback's back, like he's got to be there for

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: a long time. And since then, just in the last

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00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: nine months of football, we've seen Baker Mayfield get signed

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00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday and lead a game winning ninety eight

599
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: yard drive for the Rams on like Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 2: or whatever the hell that was if you remember that game,

601
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Speaker 2: and Josh Dobbs get traded midweek, not know anyone's name,

602
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: learn the cadence on the sideline and play awesome. So

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00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: maybe just maybe that you. Yes, it is not an

604
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: ideal situation, but it's doable, all right.

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Speaker 3: Next, all right, everyone's finally joining me on the raven bandwagon.

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Speaker 3: He just blew out the Seahawks and destroyed a teaser

607
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Speaker 3: and are looking dominant on both sides of the football.

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Speaker 2: DeMont loves the Ravens and then just teases against them and.

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Speaker 3: Losing and we show on Thursday. But I'm literally never

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Speaker 3: doing that again, like even watching the games. It's so

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Speaker 3: kind of weird. But right or wrong, Ravens are the

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Speaker 3: Chief's biggest threat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Cincinnati has earned the title because they've played

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs tough, and they have the only quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the league that's beaten Patrick Mahomes in a game that mattered. Oh, Nick,

616
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Speaker 2: all the games matter. Just to be very clear, because

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Speaker 2: I said this on TV yesterday and people didn't quite

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: understand it. What is the point of the regular season

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Speaker 2: demonse playoff seeding right to determine who has the highest seed,

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Speaker 2: who has home field? All of this. Since Patrick Mahonmes

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Speaker 2: been on the Chiefs, have they ever had to play

622
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Speaker 2: a road playoff game? No, so they either been the

623
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Speaker 2: one seed or been the default one seed because the

624
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: one seed lost every single year. So they literally have

625
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: not had a damaging regular season loss because they've been

626
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: in perfect seeding and playoff positioning every single year. So

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has lost three games that mattered in his career,

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Speaker 2: one to Tom Brady as a Patriot, one to Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady as a Buck, and one to Joe Burrow. So

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is the only quarterback alive that has beaten

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in the game that matters. Because of that,

632
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: his team gets the title of the scariest team. They

633
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: have earned that now to the Ravens and people go

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Speaker 2: ahead demant say.

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Speaker 3: Go go nothing. I just say that, like some get

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Speaker 3: I hate bringing it back there, dude, But like, would

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Speaker 3: you say the first game of the season matters, I'd say,

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty big game.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, Well let's see. You mean the Lions game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, let's see if Chiefs get the

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Speaker 2: one seed. How much does it mean.

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Speaker 3: For your soul?

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Speaker 2: But certainly matters for the other team maybe. But I'm

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying is if the Chiefs end up with

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Speaker 2: the number one seed this year at fifteen and two

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Speaker 2: or fourteen.

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Speaker 3: None of it would have mattered, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just I'm just asking. I'm the here's I

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Speaker 2: am asking that if if you end up achieving your

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Speaker 2: the maximum, the biggest reward for the regular season is

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Speaker 2: playoff seeding. If you end up with the number one seed,

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Speaker 2: then I would argue the losses didn't matter. Now, if

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Speaker 2: you end up being a game out of that one

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Speaker 2: seed mattered greatly, We'll see. So we'll see if that

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Speaker 2: game ended up mattering for the Chiefs. Now to the

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Speaker 2: Ravens and the point I was trying to make, and

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Speaker 2: people will get mad, But a quick history lesson on

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Speaker 2: Lamar in the Ravens. Lamar's first year in the league,

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Speaker 2: he did not start until late in the season. He

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Speaker 2: took over a middling at best team. They immediately went

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Speaker 2: six and one, looked awesome, and then in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: he was terrible. Lamar's second year in the league, he

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Speaker 2: started from day one. They not only started six and two,

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Speaker 2: they finished fourteen in two he was the league MVP unanimously,

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Speaker 2: and in the playoffs looked terrible. Then next year the

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Speaker 2: Ravens started you guessed it, six and two, and then

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs beat the Titans and then lost to

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Speaker 2: the Bills. The next year he started six and three

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Speaker 2: and then got hurt. And last year they started seven

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Speaker 2: and three and then he got hurt. I say all

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Speaker 2: that to say this, the Ravens are in the I'll

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Speaker 2: believe it when I see it in the postseason. Group. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: we do this in sports all the time. This is

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Speaker 2: essentially what the uh James Harden Rockets turned into. At

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Speaker 2: some point it was like, Yep, great regular season, I'll

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Speaker 2: believe it when I see it in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 2: need to see you come through. So the Ravens defense

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Speaker 2: has been unbelievable, and Lamar has a case. He has

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Speaker 2: been the MVP of the league, but there is and

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Speaker 2: I take the team very seriously, but there is a

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Speaker 2: bit of a I have seen it fall on its

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Speaker 2: face too many times in the postseason that Ravens operation

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Speaker 2: for me to fully believe in them, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's fair. I think that's what a lot of people

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Speaker 2: do with the Gubins. He's paid and they have more weapons.

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Speaker 2: But I need to see it. All right, let's do

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Speaker 2: the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: All right. But it looks at their celebration you would

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Speaker 3: think that the Raiders had just won a playoff game,

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Speaker 3: but they were actually lighting up cigars to celebrate beating

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Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito and the Giants to move to four and five.

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Speaker 3: Right or wrong, Raiders were celebrating firing McDaniels, not the win.

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Speaker 2: I mean both. They were celebrating both. They wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: done that had they lost. And I understand that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people think it's a bad look. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was charming. They were just so sick of McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: They gotta win. They played great. Good for them. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna rain Jimmy. The Raiders haven't the oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders haven't had many good moments lately. All right,

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Speaker 2: de Monsei, Let's skip all the way down to the

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Speaker 2: college football game, because you were at what I thought

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Speaker 2: was gonna be the college football game of the year

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Speaker 2: Washington USC. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went to the first my first college

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Speaker 3: basketball or football game with Daniel Victor and the guys

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Speaker 3: Chauncey shout out to Chauncey.

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Speaker 2: Instead of even asking me the question, hold on, instead

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Speaker 2: of even asking me the question. I don't care. I

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Speaker 2: don't care that Caleb tell me what you thought of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a that was This is unfortunate. But

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Speaker 3: I do think that his play style is pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's the it's the little move that he does, like

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Speaker 3: where he liked, the little angle that he takes where

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Speaker 3: he gets. I mean, somebody did a front flip when

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Speaker 3: we saw the game the other day.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was cool. But I think that, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna have guys like Joey Bosa pulling up on him,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if that's the same type of stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna fly. But I mean, obviously, athleticism is gonna

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Speaker 3: follow you wherever you go. But uh, but I'm curious

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Speaker 3: to see how it translates to the pros.

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Speaker 2: But do you think of the environment at the USC?

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, It was crazy. It was It was

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Speaker 3: the most people that I've been around in a very

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Speaker 3: long time. It was like so many people. Man, energy

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Speaker 3: was great. Uh. I really like the music that the

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Speaker 3: band was playing a lot of familiar songs that I

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Speaker 3: just didn't expect them to like do it instrumental to.

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Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, no, it was. It was a

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Speaker 3: great experiens. No defense was played. Got to see a

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Speaker 3: lot of offense. It's very cool.

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Speaker 2: Who's wearing the Michigan outfit? And why are they wear

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Speaker 2: Michigan outfit?

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Speaker 3: To Quincy Quincy Quincy, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Just drop an F bombs. You're saying one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred all right, So go through the

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Speaker 2: questions as they start with Joe Joey.

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Speaker 3: Joey Demontel said, Nick, do you think C. J. Stroud

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Speaker 3: has the potential to be a top three quarterback in

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Speaker 3: the league with Mahomes and Burrow?

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Speaker 2: But sure, I mean the I mean a fun exercise

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Speaker 2: that I was doing the uh yesterday off the air,

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Speaker 2: was you get any quarterback you want just take Caleb

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Speaker 2: out of it. Just guys, are the pros for the

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Speaker 2: next decade. Mahomes is the first pick, Burrows the second pick.

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Speaker 2: Who's the third? Some would argue Lamar, some would argue Jalen.

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Speaker 2: I think CJ would get some votes. I think see

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Speaker 2: if we're talking long term, I think Seed. I think Trevor.

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Speaker 2: Obviously some would argue Trevor, but he's put himself. He

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Speaker 2: has acquitted himself as well as someone can through half

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Speaker 2: a season, all right.

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Speaker 3: Next Daniel christ Chriss, Should the Packers be throwing the

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Speaker 3: rest of throwing the rest of their season? Do they

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Speaker 3: have a chance for a good quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they have to throw the rest

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Speaker 2: of their season. I mean they might just be losing games.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Packers are really really bad now. They

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Speaker 2: have games left against the Giants, Panthers, and Bears.

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Speaker 3: So I the that.

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Speaker 2: But somebody I believe in Shador as at least an

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Speaker 2: interesting NFL prospect, and he's not gonna go top five

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Speaker 2: if he goes in this year's draft. Now, I'd be

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Speaker 2: very interesting for to see Shador be like, Hey, guess

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Speaker 2: what should or are you're going to Green Bay, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: have fun and so but I mean the Packers, obviously

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to move off love. I think after

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Speaker 2: this year, all right, and let's go to.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know what Deco Bird wanted to ask about

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Speaker 2: the NBA In season tournament. I need to see more

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Speaker 2: of it. We only saw the one games of pool play,

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Speaker 2: and Ali said, DEMANDE quit fading the ravens and your teasers.

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Speaker 2: All good points. I gotta get to work. I'll see

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Speaker 2: you guys out Colin today around one o'clock Eastern. I'll

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Speaker 2: see you on First Things versus Three? What's right