1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour. In this Monday Dan and the 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Dan That's Dan Patrick Show. You got to give USC credit. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: In a weekend full of college football news, the Trojans 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: found a way to make a splash with their new hire, 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma taking over in Los Angeles. He 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: landed with his family about forty five minutes ago. It's 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: a fascinating hire that probably raises even more questions. Why 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: didn't Oklahoma match USC's contract offer? Can coach Riley rebuild 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: a program that was four and seven this season? Did 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: the Sooner's impending move to the SEC effect Lincoln Riley's 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: thinking what happens with all those recruits who committed to 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Riley at Oklahoma? Will they follow him to USC? What 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: about the current quarterback Caleb Williams? Will he stay? Will 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: he go? Who's the next Sooner's head coach? Ever since 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll left for the NFL that was after the 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine season, Tents have tried to recreate 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the Reggie Bush Matt Liner glory days and they have failed. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley represents a new approach. He's been a hot 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: guy for a couple of years. Now we'll see if 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: his high powered offense works well outside the Big twelve. 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: The Trojans need a jolt. They certainly got it, and 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: then they paid for it. Lincoln Riley try to create 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the success he added Oklahoma as he jumps from one 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: of the college football's most storied programs into another one. 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: Barry Trammell covers the Oklahoma Sooners the great columnists for 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma and he joins this, Now, if I told 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: you a week ago Lincoln Riley was going to be 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: the USC head coach, you would have said, what said, 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: It's possible, but it doesn't seem likely, But it's possible. 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: I was pretty sure he wouldn't going to LSU. But 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: turns out maybe that was a trojan horse saw that 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: SEC LSU or Florida or wherever. Going to going to 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Southern cal makes some sense when you think about it. 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: If a coach doesn't want to jump into the into 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the din of vipers that the SEC can be. If 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: he wants to replicate what he had at Oklahoma, USC 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: is a pretty good place to do it. That's a 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: place he should go and could quickly dominate the conference. Yeah, 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I understand that where Oklahoma in the Big twelve, you're 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of separated, and you go to the PAC twelve, 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: you have that opportunity to stay separated. You go into 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: the SEC. You know this ain't the Big twelve. How 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: much do you think this is him running to USC 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: or running away from the SEC? I think, well, I 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: mean I think it's the same. If you ask me 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: if Oklahoma hadn't joined the SEC or made the intent 48 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: to go to the SEC, would Lincoln Riley still be 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: the coach? I think the answers yes, really yeah. I 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: don't think he wanted to go to the SEC. I 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: think he'd been successful there, but the success level would 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: have been different from what Oklahoma accustomed to dominating the conference. 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, they lost Bedlam Saturday night. That ended six 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: straight years of winning the Big twelve. So that's that's 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: sort of the standard he's set. That's the standard he expects, 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, are going to do that in the SEC. 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Alabama doesn't win sixth straight SEC titles and they're Alabama, 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: So I think he can go to USC. You know, 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: you the PAC twelve is sort of open range anybody 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: that's ready to take over. It's it's there for the taking, 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and somebody like Lincoln Riley could go to could go 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: to La and do just exactly that. So the wish 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: list at Oklahoma starts with who well, I mean, I 64 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: think Oklahoma is sort of a unique place. They've one 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: time in their history literally have they hired a sitting 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: head coach. That was Howard Schnellenberger in nineteen ninety five. 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: It was a disaster. He lasted one year. They've always 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: hired an up and coming assistant coach. They believe in 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: their program more than personality. Barry Switzer, Bob Stubs, Chuck Fairbanks, 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Bud Wilkinson. I mean, all the big names had never 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: been head coaches before they got to Oklahoma, So that's 72 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily what they'll do now. The transport per port 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: all changes everything. In the past, when you change coaches, 74 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: you had to worry about your future rosters in recruiting. 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: Now you got to worry about your current roster keeping 76 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: people together. You need sort of a steady hand. That 77 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: could mean, that could mean the immediate wisdom is needed. 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: Guys who can keep the ship going. In terms of names, 79 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: been thrown a brown Shane Beamer at South Carolina. He 80 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: was on Lincoln's staff until a year ago. He's a 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: guy to look for because very impressive. The Beamer family 82 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: is his classy and as well respected as any in America. 83 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: And that's not just Frank. Shane is the same way. 84 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh you loved him. If he was still on Lincoln staff, 85 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I think he'd already have been named head coach. So 86 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: he's one to keep an eye on the Sooners. We'll 87 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: talk to Brent Venables, also thirteen year assistant for Bob 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Stoops went to Clemson ten years ago and has helped 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: Dabo Swinney build an empire. He's only fifty been coaching, 90 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, twenty five years in college football, but he's 91 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: only fifty years old. He will be a viable candidate. 92 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: And I think, oh, you will look at some of 93 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: the some of the hot coaches. The guy I think 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on as Matt Rule, who did 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: wonderful at Baylor. He's always wanted to coach in the NFL. 96 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: He's now been there two years. I don't know if 97 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: he likes it. I know that if you go to 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: the NFL and don't have a quarterback, it's not that 99 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: great of a job. So is Matt Rule. Ready to 100 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: come back to college. I can say this. I've been 101 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: covering college football for forty years. Most impressive person I've 102 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: come across as a coach slash personality in coaching is 103 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: Matt Rule. So that's who. That's who I would call. 104 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: So those are some of the names that about Bob Stoops. 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Uh Bob Stoops, I don't think wants to get back 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: in the call. Okay, but what a great what a 107 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: what a great resource he is to step in and 108 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, try to try to keep 109 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: things steady here for the next week or month or 110 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: every how long he needs to be the interim coach. Uh, 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Bob got away because of the stress. He got away 112 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: because of the demands. He got away because of the 113 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: social media and the changing times. Uh Bob Stoops is 114 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: not into Uh he's not into TikTok and n I hell, 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: that's not his deal. So you know, that's what you 116 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: got to be if you're a head coach these days. Uh, 117 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: what would you say to USC fans listening to this 118 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles of what you're getting with Lincoln Riley? 119 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: He had a fantastic coach. I mean, he's he does 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: everything in a classy manner. Now, you know, you fans 121 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: don't like the way he left, or that he left 122 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. But he's a he's a great coach. Uh. 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: He's not just an offensive savant. He's a great leader. 124 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: He's a good he's a good ministry raiders. He's the 125 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: sharpest guy in whatever room he walks into. Um. I mean, 126 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: it's a home run higher for USC. There's not any 127 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: questions about that. The only question I would have for 128 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: USC is how long can you keep it? Does Lincoln 129 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: eventually want to go to the NFL with the answers, No, 130 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be. You're gonna have a good coach for 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: for quite a while, and I think I think Trojans 132 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: will ascend to the top of the pack twelfth pretty quickly. 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Great to catch up with you. It's always Barry, thank 134 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: you for your time you met. Thanks. That's Barry Trammell 135 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: covers the Oklahoma Sooners for the Oklahoma Yeah, that's I 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: told two USC guys. You know, they were like, Lincoln Riley, 137 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: that's the best we can do. When I go yes, yes, yes, 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: it is like you guys got to come into reality here. 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Who was the name you were thinking Lombardi's dead. Were 140 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: you thinking Pete Carroll's coming back? I mean, come on, 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: you get Lincoln Riley not even forty years of age. 142 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: He's done great recruiting in Los Angeles. Yeah, seton. It's 143 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: almost like there was a certain amount of shock to 144 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: it of like, wait, what Lincoln Riley really and then 145 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: it's sort of settled in with I know some of 146 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: my friends who are USC fans that like, what a 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: home run this is? Like it's a huge win. I 148 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of times when you hear names and 149 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: then so there's no jolt that you hear that name 150 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: attached to your school or that job, and then you go, okay, yeah, 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: all right, heard that, And then this was one of 152 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: those where it's like, wait, Lincoln Riley said he's not 153 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: going to LSU. He's oh, he's going to USC. Okay. 154 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: This just in from Adam Schefter. Mike McCarthy is out 155 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: for Thursday night's game with the Saints due to COVID. 156 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: Chefty goes on to say, as one league source just 157 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: said they're up to eight positives on the Cowboys. Details 158 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: still rolling in. I don't know if it's players. I 159 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: know a couple of players haven't gotten the vaccine. But 160 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is not going to be coaching on Thursday 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: night against the New Orleans Saints. Sunday Night, by the way, 162 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: it'll be Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs host the Broncos an 163 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: AFC West Showdown is what they call that Sunday Night, 164 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. We'll talk to Carson Palmer, 165 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: the former USC quarterback Heisman Trophy winner. He'll join us. 166 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's giddy today with Lincoln Riley as the 167 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: hire here, Delhi and Chicago joins us. Best and Worst 168 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: of the weekend. Hey, Deli, hello there, Dan, thanks for 169 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: breaking my call. Sure I am. I am five eight, 170 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: and I make Fritzie look good, okay, and I look 171 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: like my Delhi and I look right the pot belly 172 00:09:51,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: Delhi spokesperson and best of the worst. The best says 173 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I have to say is my Bearers winning with Andy 174 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Dalton that quarterback. And the worst was the Rams loss 175 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: or or I can say that or Green Bay's win. Okay, 176 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you Delli. Leaving the humor does 177 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: um Kristen and Cincinnati, Hi, Kristen, what's on your mind? 178 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, how are you doing today? Great? Great? Great? 179 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: And from one Ohio in to another. I have one 180 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: question for you, but I want to say my best 181 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: and the worst of the weekend. Best, of course, the 182 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Bear cast day undefeated, keep playoff hopes alive. That's everybody, 183 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, everybody in Cincinnati's excited about that. Then, of 184 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: course the Bengals whooping up on the Steelers again keeping 185 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a playoff hopes alive. That's awesome. And then the worst 186 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: of the weekend is because I'm from Ohio, even though 187 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm from Wincinnati. Um, it's like I was going for 188 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State against mister even though they got dragged back 189 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: to Ohio by Michigan. That was the worst weekend getting 190 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: whooped like that. Right. The question I had for you, Okay, yes, 191 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: are really quick. Um, since you're from Ohio, who are 192 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: you most happy for their success? You see, Bengals or 193 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Well, Ohio State didn't have success, but in general, 194 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: probably the Bengals. I mean, I was there when they 195 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: first got to town. The highs and lows. They've been 196 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls, they lost both of those to 197 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco, But you know, I think they have something here. 198 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: They got a good running back, you got a really 199 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: good quarterback, You've got a really good wide receiver. I 200 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: think you've got a defense that's better than what people think. 201 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: And I can look at Pittsburgh. I mean, this is 202 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: the escalator. One's going up and one's coming down. I 203 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: really feel that way with changing of the guard. Now, 204 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: I don't know if Cincinnati is going to be consistently 205 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: as good as the Ravens. I feel like they're better 206 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: than the Browns, They're better than the Steelers, and maybe 207 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: they make the playoffs. Yeah, clothing, Who do people in 208 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Cincinnati root for in college? Bearcats or Buckeyes. Got a 209 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: lot of Ohio State fans, a lot of them, but 210 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: you got a lot more Cincinnati fans as of late. 211 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, Cincinnati has always been a basketball school. You 212 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: didn't talk about their football program very often. I mean, 213 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: I go back to Greg Cook was the quarterback at Cincinnati, 214 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: drafted by the Bengals and was I think AFC Rookie 215 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: of the Year. But that was it. You didn't really 216 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: talk about Cincinnati football. But you know they've done a 217 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: great job. And as I said before, when people are like, oh, 218 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, he could be leaving a go oh everything. 219 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: I've been told he's not, you know, if he wasn't 220 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: going to take the USC job, I was told, But 221 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if LSU was interested, if you know, 222 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: he's a Midwest guy. I don't know if that factors 223 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: in where's next job is. Or maybe Cincinnati decides they 224 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: want to be a football powerhouse and they've done a 225 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: great job this year. And I think it's a great 226 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: story because it gives hope though that you once we 227 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: expand to twelve teams, where whenever that is don't want 228 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: to get any headlines here, but whenever we go to twelve, 229 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: just having a couple of those teams schools that you 230 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: might invest in, but it allows those schools to have 231 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: a different kind of feeling of pride. Every one of 232 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: those sixty eight schools that get into March Madness, you know, 233 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: forty of them expect to be there. It's the ones 234 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: that get in and then they might win a game 235 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: and it just goes a long way. It puts you 236 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: on the sports map. That's all you want to be. 237 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: You want to be relevant, and Cincinnati is on the 238 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: sports map. You know, Liberty has been on their Coastal Carolina. 239 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: That's what's great. We love those stories. I mean, look, 240 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: I can watch Alabama and Georgia play and go, yeah, 241 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: you got now seventeen NFL players. Okay, but part of 242 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: sports is the possibility of give us a chance. That's all. 243 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: That's all Cincinnati is saying, just give us a chance. 244 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: And they played Georgia to the wire last year in 245 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: a Bowl game and Georgia barely won. But that's all 246 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is saying. We got a couple of guys who 247 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: are going to play in the NFL next year or 248 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: when their careers are done. All right, we'll take a break. 249 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Carson Palmer. 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Yeah, 278 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: they think nice? Yes, thank you. I knew one guy 279 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: was going to be happy today. He's our next guest. 280 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: He's Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback and of course a 281 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner at USC. His weekly appearance brought to 282 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: you by our good partner level Selex CBD looking for 283 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: next level relief visit level Selex cbd dot com. All right, 284 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: so what'd you think of the higher with Lincoln Riley. Yeah, 285 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: it's It's a good day to be a Trojan Dan. 286 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I think that one kind of came out of left field. 287 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Nobody was expecting it, nobody was really talking about it. 288 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: His name wasn't thrown around the rumorville. And now he's 289 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: he's headed to LA to be the next coach at USC, 290 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's a fantastic win for the Trojans. Okay, 291 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: I know that you know, we got you in a 292 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: little bit of trouble when you brought up Mike Tomlin's 293 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: name on the wish list. But was Lincoln Riley's name 294 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: on that wish list? And if so, how far back 295 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: oh he was, he would have been at the top 296 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: of the list. I just don't think anybody really knew 297 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: his current contract situation. He only has or had one 298 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: year left on his deal in Oklahoma. You know, it 299 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: seemed like a great fit, you know, for for him 300 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: to stay at Oklahoma for the long haul. He'd had 301 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: a ton of success and come in and I think 302 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: in four or five years, been to the been to 303 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs three or the four years, three or five years, 304 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: so um, you know, it just it just wasn't on 305 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: His name, was not on people's radar. And I think 306 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: a majority of USC fans across the country, if they 307 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: would have known Lincoln was in the running, he would 308 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: have been at the top of everybody's list. Okay, is 309 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: there somebody that you thought was going to get it? Well? 310 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: I think the obvious tie was the Luke Fickle tie 311 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: with University of Cincinnati and Mike Bone, the current USC 312 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: athletic director, having hired coach Fickle to Cincinnati when when 313 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: Mike was at Cincinnati, it just was a natural fit. 314 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: But this one, I mean, at this timing, you just 315 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: didn't feel this timing. You didn't think there was going 316 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: to be announcement coming over Thanksgiving weekend. But like I said, 317 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, just a huge win for all Trojans. But 318 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: if you're a high school quarterback, let's say your four 319 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: or five star recruit, it feels like those quarterbacks have 320 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: been leaving Southern California. Is Lincoln Riley enough for these, 321 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, high school seniors to say I'm going to 322 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: stay here in Southern California? Oh? Absolutely, I mean he's 323 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: just look at the last two quarterbacks he had, and 324 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield, both of them went number 325 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: one in the draft, both of them one Heisman trophies. 326 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have a ton of time to 327 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: work under Lincoln and under his tutelage to really develop, 328 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: but he developed them extremely quickly, which if you look 329 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: at high school recruits right now, what's important is quick success. 330 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to go to university and wait two or 331 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: three years and be the starter and you know, wait 332 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: for his turn. Guys want to go in college and 333 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: play now, and they want to have success early. So 334 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: if you're a young a young high school kid with 335 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: those kind of aspirations, and you just look at the 336 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: track record of what Lincoln Riley's done in a short 337 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: amount of time with Kyler Murray and a short amount 338 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: of time with Baker Mayfield. I mean that's proven success 339 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: very very quick, very fast. So I think that's a 340 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: great recruiting tool that Lincoln can go into these high 341 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: school kids living rooms and sit in front of their 342 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: mom and dad and say, hey, look, the proof's in 343 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: the pudding. I only had a year with Kyler, I 344 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: had a very short amount of time with Baker, and 345 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: I've found a way to get the best and to 346 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: put the best talent out on the field around these players, 347 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's been a big factor in their success. Also, 348 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a great hire for USC. I think 349 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: it's a smart move logistically for Lincoln Riley because you 350 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: can sort of have that Big Twelve feel, but now 351 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: you're in the Pac twelve because Oklahoma is going to 352 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: the SEC. You can still stand alone a little bit 353 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: like you did with Oklahoma in the Big Twelve, and 354 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: you can do that in the Pac twelve. What do 355 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: you think? Oh? Absolutely, it's much more difficult to get 356 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: to the Bull Championship, to get to the playoffs in 357 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: the SEC. You gotta worry about Georgia, you gotta worry 358 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: about Florida. You got Alabama and LSU and so on. 359 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: It in the PAC twelve, You've really got Oregon if 360 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: you're USC, and I know they just got beat a 361 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago by UCLA. But for the most part, 362 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a much easier route to get 363 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: to the playoffs going at coming from the PAC twelve. 364 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Oregon's consistently pretty pretty good. I mean, you know, 365 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: over the years, last ten fifteen years, Oregan's really the 366 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: only challenger that SC has had, with an outlier every 367 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: once in a while with Stanford that's had a couple 368 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: good years. You know, Washington State, you know, has a 369 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: couple of good years every once in a while. But 370 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's a USC Oregon conference. You 371 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: go look at the SEC, everybody's a contender outside of 372 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: a couple of schools. Yeah, I get it. And you know, 373 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: he did a lot of recruiting in southern California too, 374 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: And then you're going to get these kids who are 375 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: going to decommit from Oklahoma and probably follow him to USC. 376 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: You've already got a couple, I mean, you're already starting 377 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: to hear rumblings there's a couple of great players at 378 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: Modern Day, which is one of the powerhouses in southern 379 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: California and really one of the powerhouse high schools in 380 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: the country. And they've got two five star recruits, the 381 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: running back and the quarterback, both were committed to Oklahoma. 382 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to see those guys change their 383 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: minds and stay home. I mean that it's it's tough 384 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: to leave southern California when you're a high school football player, 385 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: and it's really tough to leave Southern California and go 386 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: to Norman, Oklahoma. And then you factor in, you know, 387 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: the family and friends that are close that can now 388 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: come and see you and get in a car and 389 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: drive and watch you play at SC compared to getting 390 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: on a flight or three flights getting to Norman. You know, 391 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: he's going to start getting that kind of Pete Carroll 392 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: respect from the recruiting class, as were every buddy out 393 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: of California SCS in their top five when Pete Carroll 394 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: was there. And I think you're going to see that 395 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: same thing with Lincoln Riley. You have not seen that. 396 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: And it's from the Clay Hilton area. There's tons of 397 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: kids that don't even take a trip to SC and 398 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: they go to the SEC, they go to the big twelve, 399 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: they've headed outside of California. They've gone to Oregon. Now, 400 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see that Pete Carroll following 401 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: of these high school kids in California staying in state 402 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: and giving sc a really hard look. What was the 403 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: wildest thing that happened on a recruiting trip for you? 404 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I had a great recruiting trip to the University of 405 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Colorado when when Rick new Heisl was there and Colorado 406 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: wasn't a big powerhouse at the time. I just I 407 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: just had a great relation with Coach new Heisl and 408 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: really really liked him and wanted to be a part 409 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: of what he had going at Colorado at the time. 410 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: And our recruiting trip, we we went paintballing, we went 411 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: river rafting, we he just did some outside the box 412 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: things that you wouldn't expect to do on a recruiting trip. 413 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: And that was part of you know, that was what 414 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that made Rick new Heisel such 415 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: a great recruiter. He was a phenomenal recruiter is he 416 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: found ways to exploit the places that he was University 417 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: of Washington, UCLA, Colorado, he used them. He used all 418 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the things he had in his own backyard to attract kids. 419 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: You just wanted a free trip to Colorado, didn't you. 420 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: You weren't going there, no doubt. No. I mean I 421 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: hadn't been to Boulder. I'd heard good things and at 422 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: the time New Heisl had there were an up and 423 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: coming program, and you know, being a southern California kid, 424 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: you wanted to get outside of socaw and go see. 425 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: I went to Notre Dame, I went to Colorado and 426 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: SC and had a blast on all my recruiting trips. Okay, 427 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: no names, but what were you offered anything interesting anywhere? No? 428 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: I mean that when I was coming up, and then 429 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: when I was in the league, I was always hearing 430 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: stories about a number of scs C schools. There's you know, 431 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: when when you go to USC, you got to be 432 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: so careful if if they're if they're extracurricular activities going on, 433 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: and you know, kids are getting paid pre the name, 434 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: image and likeness world. There's a n LA. There's u 435 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: u USC grads, UCLA grads, Oregon and Washington. You go 436 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: on down the list. You go to Tuscaloosa, Alabama. There's 437 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: not a whole bunch of Auburn fans. You go to 438 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: Baton Rouse. There's not a bunch of Georgia Bulldogs in 439 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: that area, and they protect their own. So all the 440 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: stories I heard were coming out of the SEC where 441 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: they were really small college towns and they could really 442 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: control who was seeing some so and so right around 443 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: in a new Mercedes or a new Cadillac escalad. We're 444 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: talking to Carson Palmer who got offered nothing to go 445 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: to USC right for great education tion? Yes I know 446 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: I paid for two of those educations. All right. Um, 447 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: when you're playing and you want to play, but you 448 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: know that you're not helping your team play, who's it 449 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: on to take Baker out? Or you know, Matthew Stafford 450 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: looked like he was banged up yesterday. At some point, 451 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: when does who makes that decision that it's better for 452 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: us if you're not out there trying to get this out. 453 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: It's a team decision, and when you're talking about the 454 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: quarterback of a franchise, it's a decision between Baker, the 455 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: team doctor, the head team trainer, the owner, the GM 456 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: and the head coach. You can't just put it on 457 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: the player because the player is always gonna say I'm good, 458 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm fine. It's a it's it's a collective discussion where 459 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: everybody puts, you know, puts their weight in their makes 460 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: their decision, comes up with why the reasons why why not? 461 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: But you can't put it on one individual. And right 462 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: now it looks like Baker's hurt. And the good thing 463 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns having their back pocket is Case Keenum. 464 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: Case Keenum is a flat player. I mean, it hasn't 465 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: worked out great when he's a starter year after year 466 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: after year. But when he can spell a banged up 467 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, shoulder that Baker may have, or rib or 468 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: what over the issues he has, you can still win 469 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot of games with him, especially with the talent 470 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: they have. So you know, the best thing that Baker 471 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: has and the Cleveland Browns have right now is Case Keenum. 472 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: And it looks like, you know, it looks like Baker's 473 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: banged up. And if that group of minds get together 474 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: and decide that the best thing for the team is 475 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Case Keenum, that they need to make that decision. I 476 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: didn't understand this logic, and you can certainly help understand this. 477 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: You got Aaron Rodgers playing on a toe that might 478 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: need surgery. If you're the Rams, why aren't you going 479 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: out of your way. Let's just put pressure on him. 480 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: I know he can carve you up. He's looking for 481 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: the blitz and all of those things, but I have 482 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: to make him uncomfortable. And it just didn't feel like 483 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: the Rams made Rogers as uncomfortable as they should have. Yeah, 484 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: you would like to see them come out in the 485 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: first three or four drives and just put a ton 486 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: of pressure on them and make him move, make him 487 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: getting some uncomfortable situations and get off elen and throw 488 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: off platform where he has to put a little more 489 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: weight on that pinky toe and get him uncomfortable, like 490 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: you said. But you know, they just kind of sat 491 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: out and said, we're gonna try to cover him. We're 492 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: gonna keep the ball in front of us. I personally 493 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: would have liked them to see put a ton of 494 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: pressure on him early and if he gets you in 495 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: the first two or three drives, you can then back 496 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: off and sit and play zone and keep the ball 497 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: in front of you and not let him throw it 498 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: over your head. But it just was too easy. I mean, 499 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: when you see these quarterbacks that are banged up, and 500 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: then you know Sunday Night was a great example Baltimore 501 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: knew that he was hurting. They could tell Baker was hurting. 502 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: They read all the press clippings, they've seen it, and 503 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: they came after him. I mean they were bringing not 504 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: cover zero full pressures, but they consistently brought pressure and 505 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: got him outside the pocket, made him move, made him 506 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: get off platform, and throw some balls that you know, 507 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, typically a healthy Baker would make, but it 508 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: injured Baker's not going to make. And you would like 509 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: to have seen that with the Rams yesterday. But for 510 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they came back and they wanted to keep 511 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: the ball in front of him, and they got almost 512 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: forty points. I'm unfortunately. Yeah, I just I wonder about 513 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: that because he might be playing himself out of getting 514 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: that long term contract by wanting to play to help 515 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, I mean that that tough guy mentality 516 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: is something that you want your quarterback to half. Every 517 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: organization wants their franchise player to say, I can play 518 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: no matter what. But again, this group of doctors and 519 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: professionals and gems and head coach, they need to get 520 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: together and make that decision as a team and what's 521 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: best for the team. But from a contractual standpoint, going forward. 522 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't sit here and say that Baker's 523 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: earned a long term contract that's going to pay him 524 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: forty million bucks a year. It's just flat out the 525 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: play on the field has not shown that he's worth 526 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty million bucks a year, which is where 527 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: these contracts are heading currently. So they're in a tough spot. 528 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's tough not to resign and give 529 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: a long term extension to a guy that's number one pick, 530 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: a guy that's kind of kept you somewhat in the 531 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: playoff hunt every year he's been there but not getting 532 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And with the talent they have, they've 533 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: got some huge decisions to make this offseason. As a 534 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: former great quarterback, when I see Aaron Rodgers and I'm 535 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: talking about you being the former great quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, 536 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: just it still feels like there's a backyard mentality to 537 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: how he plays that position that you know, the guy 538 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: in the backyard, the quarterback is always the best athlete, 539 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: And it still feels that way. How does he how 540 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: is he able to do it where it feels like 541 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: it's it's when he's great, it's as effortless as anybody 542 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: who plays in the game. It's as unorthodox as anybody 543 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I've ever seen play the position. I mean, you you know, 544 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: it's funny as the last twenty years have progressed the 545 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: position of playing quarterback. And it started back in the 546 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: day with the San Francisco forty nine ers and the 547 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: Steve Youngs and the Joe Montana's the progression one hitch, 548 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: two hits, first, second read, third read, fourth read, and 549 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: you go through progression. You read the curl in the 550 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: flat to the hook to the checkdown. He doesn't play 551 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: the game that way, and very very few guys, I 552 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: mean another guy that really doesn't play that game that 553 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: way is Mahomes. You rarely see them take a five 554 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: step drop, one hitch, two hitch, three hitch throw. I mean, 555 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: sometimes Aaron's in a back pedal. Sometimes he's in a 556 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: traditional drop back. Sometimes he's doing some sort of pump 557 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: fake at the line of scrimmage to pump them now 558 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: and they, you know, pump a draw. He's just absolutely 559 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: like you're saying it, he's playing in the backyard and 560 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: looking for somebody in the right mismatch situation, looking for 561 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: somebody just to give him a sliver of room to 562 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: fit a ball into. But as far as playing the 563 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: game the way that we're all taught, even these young 564 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: kids coming up right now, they're taught it's a purely 565 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: progression game. Aaron does not go through progressions. He looks 566 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: for a mismatch, finds a way to manipulate the pocket, 567 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: extend the play, and try to go for the big 568 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: chunk play and not throw that check down when the 569 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: defense is dictating that this ball needs to be thrown 570 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: to the checkdown. He's just not willing to take that 571 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: five yard throw. He wants that twenty five yard back 572 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: shoulder throw that we see him do weekend and week out. 573 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: As you said a couple of weeks ago, you know, 574 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: teaching young kids don't emulate Aaron Rodgers because you can't, 575 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: and probably the same with Mahomes. But but if you 576 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: sat down with him, could he teach you something about 577 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: what he does that you wouldn't be aware of right now? Oh? Absolutely. 578 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean there's so much going on that we as 579 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: NFL fans can't see from the NBC cut or the 580 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Fox cut. If we had the coach's cut, which is 581 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: that that camera that's at the very top of the 582 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: stadium that's showing all twenty two players in the field 583 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: at the same time. You can pick up some things 584 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: that way, but who knows. I mean, that's why he's 585 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: so difficult to coach. And you've seen kind of coaches 586 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: that are always seemed to be somewhat on the hot seat. 587 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: And you know, you know from McCarthy and out the 588 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: issues with the floor we were hearing about early on 589 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: this year and last season. He's got to be difficult 590 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: to coach because you know, you can call a play 591 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: and number one is not open, but number two is 592 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: wide open, and he over he just moved right past 593 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: number two. And every once in a while he'll take 594 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: a sack waiting for number three or number four, hoping 595 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: number four comes open in his read. And that's got 596 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: to drive coaches absolutely nuts. But absolutely, hands down, he 597 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: is worth the headache. Concerns about the Rams, I'm not 598 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they've they've had a couple tough 599 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: weeks in a row, but at the end of the day, 600 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is still trying to figure it out. Matt 601 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: Stafford is still trying to figure him out. We're going 602 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: to see there's enough season left before the playoffs start 603 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: that we're going to start to see those two guys 604 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: mesh a little bit more. You saw Odell catch the 605 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: slugo the slant go route for the touchdown. We're gonna 606 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: start seeing more of that. He's getting more and more 607 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: comfortable with the formations. And that's one thing you got 608 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: to realize about a Sean mcvah offense is there is 609 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: so much going on before the ball is snap. There 610 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 1: are so many ships, motions, movements, checks that are happening 611 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: that you just can't come in and pick those up, 612 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: no matter how smart you are, in two or three weeks. 613 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: Those are going to take a month, a month and 614 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: a half. So I mean, this team is just loaded 615 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: with talent. They have some of the best defensive players 616 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: in all of football. They have some of the best 617 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: offensive players in all of football. And when you have 618 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: that combined with that coach, it's a good recipe. I 619 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: look to see them getting in the playoffs and really 620 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: picking up some steam. You gave us piss missile last week, 621 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: you promised another one this week, So what are you 622 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: offering up with football jargon? Dan? I'm not an off 623 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: the cuff kind of guy. It's it's it's got to 624 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: come naturally. You told me, you said, I said, give 625 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: me more, and you go wait till next week. You 626 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: didn't prepare. You did not prepare the film star at two. 627 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: I woke up at two this morning preparing for the 628 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: DP show. So I've been preparing all morning. But it's 629 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: it's gotta naturally and organically come off the top. You 630 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: can't just ask for a list of them. Okay, maybe 631 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: next week. Get that. That's the cliffhanger. All right, Well, 632 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: congratulations on your trojans. You're back. We're back, baby, Thank you, Bud. 633 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: That's Carson Palmer joining us, a courtesy of Level Selex CBD, 634 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: the Next Level Relief Level Selex CBD dot com. All right, 635 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow? 636 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: Final twenty minutes of the program, Back after the Thanks 637 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 638 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 639 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 640 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 641 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. He's my Carmen, 642 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Fire. We have a brand new fantasy football 643 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 1: podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice a week every 644 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Friday, we up with new episodes to not 645 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: only look back at what happened, what you need to 646 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: do at that minute, and also look ahead of what's 647 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: coming up in the fantasy football world. That's right, Dan. 648 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 649 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, sits, starts, 650 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 651 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: the competition. Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike 652 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Carmen and meet Dan Buyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 653 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: Podcast and wherever you get your podcasts. Oh all righty, 654 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Russell Wilson Junior, third thirty three. Today, 655 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 1: let's say this NBA news in from Shams Michael Porter 656 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: Junior expected to miss the rest of the season due 657 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: to back surgery. He signed that contract extension. I think 658 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: he had the issue when he got to Missouri is 659 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: freshman year. You know, back. Bad back doesn't leave you. 660 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: Bad back is always going to be there. By the 661 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: way started the season where well prior to the start 662 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: of the NBA season, where we found out that Zion 663 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: had offseason foot surgery, and I said, it's a really 664 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: big deal to keep an eye on. And now we 665 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: find out that he's probably going to be out until 666 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: second week of January. Once again he's still trying to 667 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: come back from the surgery and all of this time 668 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: out of shape, gaining weight. There's some there's some concerns 669 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: here foot surgery another thing. Have something like that. That newsual. 670 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't leave you either. Now the question is to 671 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: what degree does it stay. And you get a guy 672 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: of that size who has you know, a lot of 673 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: explosion in his game. Man, oh man, this is not good, 674 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: not good for Zion. Uh. Let's see the stage Sports 675 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: History Finals. Also the poll question. Mcleven So our three 676 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: we put up worst loss of the weekend and Oklahoma 677 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: was on there for both their loss on the field 678 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: and their coach, so they won. The second worst loss 679 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, it's it's not that they lost, 680 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: it's how they lost. When when you show up, well, 681 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: they didn't show up. They weren't competitive. That's different because 682 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: in this rivalry. Now Pittsburgh fans would say it's not 683 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: a rivalry, and they're probably correct, But you know Bengals 684 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: have swept them this year. It just feels like there's 685 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of changing in the guard. Dere Al 686 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta has been holding all best and worst of 687 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: the weekend morning. Then back to the weekend was University 688 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: of Illinois finally getting met six year monkey off their 689 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: back and finally beating Northwestern. And worst is having to 690 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: wait twenty one days for Augin's touchdown and it comes 691 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: in a nail bighter went over the Jaguars. We had 692 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: taken to the wire by the Jaguars. Thank you all. 693 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: What I always sounds a little roughed up from the 694 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: weekend there? Do you realize that we have eighty three 695 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: bull eligible teams right now? Thirteen to the fourteen SEC 696 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: teams bull eligible this year? Is it Bule in Oregon? 697 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: Hopefully I got that right, Bule? Yes, okay, yes, this 698 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: is Buell. How are you Auele? Hey? Hey, so I 699 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: got a best at the weekend. It's actually a bucket 700 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: list best. I was at the Michigan game. First first 701 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: trip to the Big House. It was great. We flew in, yeah, 702 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: we flew in Friday night. I got there early for 703 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: game day. It was cool. Got to the big house 704 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: walked in. You know, it was you know, we sat 705 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of buy some Ohio State people. So that was 706 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: that was a little obnoxious there for a little bit. 707 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: But you know, scoring a touchdown every single time you 708 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: have the ball in the second half shuts him up 709 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: pretty quick. But we did. We did rush the field, 710 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: my daughter and I as we as we got down 711 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: to the field, we were in the seventh row, got 712 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. This guy ate it like right in 713 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: front of us. My daughter was like, hey, I'm not going. 714 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: It's like we can do this, and so we you know, 715 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: bailed off, got down there, got to the m in 716 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: the middle and then mister Brightside from the killers. It 717 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: was just a surreal moment bucket list for sure. Anyway, 718 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: Thanks Ann, thank you. Yeah that's great. I remember going 719 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: to an Ohio State game, Ohio State Michigan and Ohio 720 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: State one, and my son said, can I can I 721 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: go on the field? I said, well, Ohio State one. 722 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I know, but like people are running 723 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: on the field. I said sure, so he went. I mean, 724 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: it wasn't one of those like Ann Arbor where they've 725 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: been waiting for a decade. It's like, hey, we won, 726 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: Like you don't really storm the field. You kind of 727 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: stroll onto the field, like I get there in a minute. 728 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: Wasn't really celebration, but he was like, yeah, I'd like 729 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: to go out there and celebrate. I said, all right, 730 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: not big on it, but go ahead if you want to. 731 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: If you know, if you get caught, you know, give 732 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: him your mom's maiden name. You know something. Don't have 733 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 1: any times to me, Doug. Oh, it's mister separatist Doug 734 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Doug, how is your Thanksgiving? I'm not 735 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: gonna lie to you, Dan. It was. It was a 736 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: long weekend here in North Carolina. A lot of tears, 737 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: a lot of tears, and I wasn't bothered by the 738 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: fact that most of America disagreed with Marvin's wife and 739 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: I get listen, we're right, you're wrong. That's fine, but 740 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: really hurt. As you know, I'm the president of the 741 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: Fritzie Fan Club. And what really tore me up was 742 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: that moment that Todd called me a lunatic. And I'm 743 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: having to start a support group about for people who've 744 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: been rejected by Todd. It's it's not a very large group, 745 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: but when I get done with that, I'm thinking of 746 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: starting a new Scotch up here ro fan club. I 747 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: don't know who Scott well, but you know, when you're 748 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: hero this is you and calls you a lunatic and 749 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: says you have to get on your medication, it hurts 750 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's all good fun. Yeah, yeah, well, 751 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Doug. You gave us a lot 752 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: of content there with a Doug separates all of his 753 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: food on his plate at Thanksgiving. Yes, I just want 754 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: him to be able to enjoy the fruits of things 755 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: like dumping a bunch of different types of foods on 756 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: top of one another and not get so obsessed compulsive 757 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: with what's going on with how they can't touch each 758 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: other at all. It's really not going to contaminate it. 759 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: You'll come up with some kind of you know, someone 760 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: came up with peanut butter and chocolate mixed together. You 761 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: never know what kind of interesting combinations you're talking about. 762 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: People who are who are obsessive and compulsive. Okay, not 763 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: an easy thing. I got my own. Thank you. I 764 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: know you do this, Dane. Sports history point nineteen sixty two, 765 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: MLB decided to return to only one All Star game, 766 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: a year beginning in nineteen sixty three. I didn't realize 767 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties they played two All Star 768 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: games a year. Had no idea. Eighteen ninety Navy defeated 769 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: Army by the score twenty four zero in the first 770 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: Army Navy football game. The game was played at West Point. 771 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's go around the room. What we learned, Todd, would 772 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: you learn today? 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