1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of Three Rounds, brought 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: They're in your corner with unlimited five G network that 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: will not slow you down. So you know last week 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: in Illiot the Poor, you became a UFC double champion. 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: And you know how much I love a fight. That's 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: why I enjoyed doing three Rounds so much. So I've 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: been in training camp. Last time I don't bust somebody up. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: The head on this show was Chris Wyman two years ago, 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: and they've been refusing. They've been running. So in comes 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: Dean Thomas to try to step up to the challenge. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: Was up, Dno, I ain't. 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: Running from nobody. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: When I heard the challenge was out there, I was 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: the first one to step up because I'm here to 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: take your head clean off your shoulders. 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: Hey, this is about to try to bust my ass. 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: But hey, that's why we trained, That's why we trained. 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: While we get ready. Ay, y'all know that we don't 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: put about twenty thirty episod the three rounds in the 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: bank for us, So you know I'm ready for the fight. 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: So let's go Illiot to Poria last weekend beat Charles 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Olivera to become the lightweight champion, making him a double champ. Now, 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: iliot to Pouria on yesterday was announced as the new 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: number one pound for pound fighter in the world. Dean Thomas, 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: do you agree with that? Do you think though, that 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: by Illy becoming the lightweight champion, he's number one? 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: When you look at his strength of schedule, when you 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: look at the guys that he's beaten, he was already 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: even without the Charles Olivera win, he was already in 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: the ranking to being one of the best. I would 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: say top three, top five for sure, baby top three. 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: But the win over Charles oliver. 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: First round knockout solidifies Illiot to Poria as the number 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: one pound for pound fighter in the world, no doubt 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: about it. 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: So Dino, I was talking to armand's Ki yesterday and 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: he said to me it was expected that Ilio would 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: beat Charles oliver So that has no bearing on the 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: entire thing. The fact that he want to fight that 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: many say he was supposed to. I get it, but 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I must say this, I agree. I think pound for 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: pound is does your fighting style translate weight classes? We 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: saw by knocking out Volkanowski, Bob and knocking out Holloway. 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: His fighting style is effective. At one forty five, before 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: he started as a VANDAM weight, it was effective there 49 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: because he's undefeated. Now he's the lightweight champion. I agree. 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: I think that at this point he is number one 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: pound for pound because he has shown that his fighting style, 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: regardless of the weightcast is effective. But not only effective. 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: You know, he is knocking dudes out. So the power 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: has followed him up to lightweight as it was at 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: won forty five. 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: He's so clean. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: It's his technique and it's not necessarily just his power, 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: like he's like bench pressing all this weight. His technique 59 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: is so clean that when he's hitting guys and he's 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: hitting him right on the spot, they can't hold up. 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I believe that he'll knock out anybody from anywhere up 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: until one seventy. 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: I do believe his power will come into one's I. 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: Really believe telling me so you're telling me right now. 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: You think he beats Islam. I think he beats Islam. 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: I always thought he would be Islam. Here's why, because Islam. 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: I think Islam had struggled with the in the Volklanowski fight, 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: the very first Volkanoski fight, he struggled with getting underneath 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Alexander Volkanowski. Islam struggled to get underneath him to be 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: able to take him down. He's gonna have a hard 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: time getting underneath uh uh poia. He's gonna have a 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: hard time getting underneath the Pooria to take him down. 73 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: If you don't take him down, he's getting knocked out. 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: So I would imagine that you don't agree with my 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: next point then, because I was gonna say he is 76 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: the number one paw ball fighter today. But if Islam 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: is able to beat Jack Dela Mattelaa, it flips again 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: and then Islam goes back to number one pound only 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: because it is Dean Listen only because it is fighting 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: style will then be proven to go up to the 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: next weight class. So then Islam will have done everything 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: voke to Pooria is done at a heavier weight, four 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: title defenses that won fifty five and then the new 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: champion at walt Away. So yes, I agree he is 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: pompfound number one today, but I think the moment, if 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: Islam is able to win, he then goes back to 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: pompfound number one absolutely not, because the. 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: Win over Jack Dela Mattelena doesn't really prove it. I mean, 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: in fact, Jack was like rank seven until he won 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: the belt. 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: But this Jackson, Jack's not a Hall of Famer, like 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: the way he don't have to strength to schedule a Ilia. 93 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: Got Ilia right now, will only fight fights he's supposed 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: to win until he fights Islam. Because every one of 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: his challengers right now, he's minus six hundred against h 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: he's minus three hundred against armand he's minus three fifty 97 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: against justin only person he's an underdog two is Makatchev. 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: So if Mark Kotchev becomes the walkaway champ, doesn't he 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: go back to pampavon number one? 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: The fact that Eliot is such a strong favorite already 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: says enough about how good he we think he is. 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: I think he's great too. 104 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: And if if Mahatchev beats Jack Dela Madelene, that to me, 105 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: that's not really the feather in his cap that he needs. 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: He needs to beat a stronger opponent. I think he 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: needs to beat the Hall of Fame. If he would 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: have knock out Kamara Ousman, that would be different. 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: If Islam wins that belt at won seventy, does it 110 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: make him pompavon number one again or does Ilia still 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: stay there because Ilia does have a claim for it. 112 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: The kid is phenomenal. He is an amazing fighter. He's tremendous. 113 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: But I just think that the reason he jumped him 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: is because he's won his second belt. But the moment 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: Islam does if he does, I think he goes back 116 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: to number one. Experienced Round two Dino Jamal Hill, that 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: was a good wrong. I mean, you pressed me against 118 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: the occasion a little bit, using him a couple of 119 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: body shots. But it's okay. Though, It's okay, I come 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: back hey. Round two. Former champion Jamal Hill is on 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 2: a three fight losing streak. Now, a lot of times 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: when people start to lose, they start to kind of 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: talking and trying to explain what's going on. Jamal said, 124 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: a lot is made of the thing I said before 125 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: my fight that Khalil Rontree was not on my level, 126 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: and I said the same thing about my last few fights. 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: He says, its only as you two, but he said, 128 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: to be honest, I haven't been on my level for 129 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 2: a while. I haven't been on that level for quite 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: some time. People underestimated the extent of my injuries with 131 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: his achilles and his knees. What do you make of that? 132 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: What do you make of Jamal Hill saying that as 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: he's on this streak of bad luck, Well. 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I wish he had told us before did he wasn't 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna be worth a damn? I mean, I'm out there, 136 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm out that co signing for my brother, Like, yo, 137 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: my man's gonna go out there and do big things. 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: And then every time he showed up and I don't 139 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: want to say he let us down, but he let 140 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: himself down. Yes, and it's unfortunate. Did he let himself down? 141 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Because I had high hopes for Jamal Hill and he 142 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: let himself down and indirectly. 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: Let us all down those who believed in him. 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing, right, he was a world champ, 145 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: so clearly he had a ton of potential. I think 146 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: what you said leads to this very next quote. He said, 147 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm a natural talent. We see that a lot in 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: people that have a lot of talent and they don't 149 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: necessarily reach that potential. I see that constantly with my wrestlers. 150 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: He said, things come naturally to me at a certain level. 151 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: Before I could just hang around outside of camp do 152 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: what whatever I wanted. Are things the way I wanted 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: to do them. When I was in camp, I was 154 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: able to put work at a level that I feel 155 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: put me in a very good position to go on 156 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: and put on performances that I put on early in 157 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: my career. It brings me back to a quote my 158 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: coach has told me a long time ago. Hard work 159 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. He said, May 160 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: his work output may have been up, but he's got 161 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: to do more. He's got to work harder, grind harder. 162 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 2: Hey Dean, he said his last three camps at the lowest, 163 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: he was maybe two hundred and sixty pounds. Last camp, 164 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: he was two sixty five before the before the fight 165 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: camp started. 166 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean, and that's irresponsible. That's nuts. That's irresponsible, and 167 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: that should have never happened. 168 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Because if he's trying to get back on track to 169 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: be in a champion, he can't allow his weight to 170 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: get up like that. He's got to constantly be in 171 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: a gym. And another thing he's got to do is 172 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: I think he needs to add more stuff to his game. 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really he's become predictable. He's got to 174 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: add more stuff to his game. The fortunate thing for 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: him is if he wants to turn this around, he's 176 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: in a division that he can turn it around. And 177 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: because it's not that deep the light heavyweight division, he 178 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: needs to win over a couple guys and he'll be 179 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: right back in the mix. But if he was a lightweight, 180 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: i'd say it was a rap for him. But the 181 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: fact that he's in a very weak division, he can 182 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: turn it around. 183 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: So when a guy starts to make these types of comments, 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: it's a lot of reflection, right. You start reflecting on 185 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: the things that you did bad. Now, When I was 186 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: at two o five towards the end of my career, 187 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: I started to get heavier because I was comfortable that 188 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: I could do what I needed to do in order 189 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: to make the weight and still fight effectively, especially when 190 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: John Jones wasn't there. When John Jones was there, I 191 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: never got heavy because I had that guy that would 192 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: truly remind me that if I messed up, he would 193 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: take advantage. Maybe that's what was hurting Jamal. He needs 194 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: to have a real direction of what he needs to 195 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: do in order to change this or the results would 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: be the same, and you know it's crazy. He's very competitive. 197 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: He was competitive against Uri, he was competitive at times 198 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: against Perera early that last fight, man Khalil Rowntree, it 199 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: wasn't competitive. 200 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: I think the first thing he needs to do, and 201 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: this might be a problem because of his injuries, the 202 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: first thing he needs to do is get his his 203 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: footwork back and check his feet and his feet aren't 204 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: moving good. 205 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: Like well, that's the athleticism, right, He's an athletic guy. 206 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: He's a basketball player. Why do you think people are 207 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: so sour on Jamal? It seems like they just turned 208 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: on him. 209 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think there was a point 210 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: where he just kind of came off as being angry, 211 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, angry black man. 212 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: Nobody likes angry black man. That's why we gotta tell. 213 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: It. Mug be smiling all the time. Man, nobody likes 214 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: nigger black man. No, Ken, Jamal Hill, get it back 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: going in the right direction. Chat. 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Uh, we have fun. 247 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: We have the best job in the world. But there 248 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: is a responsibility that comes with it. You gotta be 249 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: correct a little bit at times. I can be libel 250 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: in that. So I heard a story of the day 251 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: by Eliot to forty, heard a story a by Eliot 252 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: afore you having money, as you know, a family money 253 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: today I get a thing. Or I hear Ilia telling 254 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: Ariel he had four jobs growing up. Dean, I was wrong. 255 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: How much of a responsibility do we have as the 256 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: media to tell these people? Even though I'm not traditional media, 257 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm a fighter that is now on the media's side. Helldan, 258 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: the other day they had an illegal strike on the 259 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: ground where the guy's laying on his back. He stomps him. 260 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: We're like, man, I have never seen that before. They 261 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: asked you, and you, mister smarty pants, correct us and 262 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: tell the shit is illegal. 263 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, DC, I've always said this, I'm not 264 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: a real journalist. 265 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: I'm just a jackass with a microphone. 266 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: You, on the other hand, you have a really big 267 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: platform and you are one of the faces of the UFC. 268 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: You have a responsibility to tell the truth and to 269 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: do your homework. You do that, You have to do 270 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: that due diligence, do your homework you have. 271 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: So am I not allowed to hear a story now 272 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: from a friend that tells me something because you don't 273 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: know if that friend You don't know if that friend 274 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: knows what if he knows. 275 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: No, I know. But you have to always be careful 276 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: and you have to always preface everything you say with rumor, 277 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: has it or allegedly yeah, because you haven't really the 278 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: size of your platform. Everybody listens to you and they 279 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: take what you say to heart. So if you start 280 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: telling rumors, it doesn't go over well. 281 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: So so so Iliot to Pooria, for the record, had 282 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: four jobs, is what he said. Now I don't believe. 283 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: I go to X. I go to Twitter a lot. 284 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: Man Ben Asker taught me that heads off to the 285 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: boy Ben. He got his lung transplants already, so good 286 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: for Ben. But I go to X a lot of times. 287 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Ben told me it is the greatest news platform in 288 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: the world. And at times people lie to me. So 289 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: even to this day, some people are telling me Iliot 290 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: did have money and he didn't. But I will take 291 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: that back once I hear that man from his voice 292 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: saying that he has that. But when and it comes 293 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: to the rules, right, the stump up and down when 294 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: you haven't seen something right, I don't think we've never 295 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: seen anything like that to know, is that on us 296 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: or is that on the people in the truck to go, hey, no, 297 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: that's illegal. 298 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: No, I think that I think that is on us. 299 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean we have to do a good job of 300 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: doing it. The only person who's able to get away 301 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: with me being a little misleading is chaill Son. In 302 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: your partner stuff they come up with, he'd be making 303 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: stuff up on the spot. I don't know how he 304 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: come up with the stuff he come up with, but 305 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: chail Son, it will make something up on the spot. 306 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: He's the only one that is allowed to get away 307 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: with it because we all kind of know that he's 308 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: full of shit, but we want to hear it anything, 309 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: So we just listened. 310 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: You sitting with Chaill let that desk on those shows 311 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: like man Chill just up here telling him about the field. 312 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: I'll be like, yo, what is it like? He just 313 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 5: made that up? He just made that up right now? 314 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: He's the best bro. He's so funny. I love I 315 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: love uh, I love Joe, But sometimes I know he's 316 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: not telling me the truth. But the story is so good, 317 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: so good that I want to buy into it. 318 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: Hey really fast. In round three, talking about responsibility, Jack 319 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: Hermanson got knocked out bad the other day. Herb was 320 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: running in to save it, but he was a little slow. Yo. 321 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: This dude was on his back for like five minutes. 322 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Where's that responsibility, lie, Dean is the rough supposed to 323 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: tackle him? 324 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ref shit has tackled him. Here's what I 325 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: think happened. Because Herb Dean is Herb Dean is a 326 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: very good ref. He's always on top of these things. 327 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: I think what happened was Jack was out so bad 328 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: that I don't think Herb even considered the possibility of 329 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: Gregory Rodriguez hitting him with another shot, and I think 330 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: he just moved a little too slow because he didn't 331 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: think it was gonna happen. 332 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: So, so here's the problem. You remember what happened with 333 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: Hanato moy Kano and Jalen Turner. 334 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: He thought he had to. 335 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: Knock out, walk walk off, knockout. 336 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: Dude got up and beat him, right exactly. That's another 337 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: that's another possibility. No one is really at fault. To me, 338 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: it was more of a miscommunication on everybody's part. Yeah, 339 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: I think they heard just thought he was gonna. 340 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: Stop, especially in the action, right, But it's Gregory Rodriguez 341 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: his responsibility to go out there and finish the fight 342 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: speaking the responsibility. But I tell you one thing, if 343 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: Dean gonna be here on three rounds multiple weeks, ain't 344 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: no way. He up here just corrected me. We ain't 345 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: gonna have that, all right, guys, So it's time for 346 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: my final thought. Iliot Orpouria is great. I tell you 347 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: one thing, It don't matter if you love him or 348 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: you hate him. I don't understand why so many were 349 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: booing him over the course of last week when in reality, 350 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: all he has done is the right thing. I get it. 351 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: There are a lot of comparisons to Connor McGregor, but 352 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of differences in illi To pour you, 353 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: he has not carried himself in the way that McGregor did. 354 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: So while there are similarities in the fight career, we 355 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: have to understand who Iliot Topooria has shown us to 356 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: be as the man is vastly different. So while the 357 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: actions are great inside the octagon, to this point, all 358 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: he has shown us is great actions outside of the octagon. Now, 359 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: I know my great friends out in Dakistan may not 360 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: have the best relationship with him, but I do know 361 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: if I know these guys, they respect what he has 362 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: done inside the octagon. We'll see what happens in the future, 363 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: but as if today, just acknowledge that this kid is great, 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: and he's different, and what he's doing to this point 365 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: is as good as anything we have seen in a 366 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: really long time. That confidence, that smile, that walk lets 367 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: you know that you are watching an individual who believes 368 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: that only success lies ahead of him every time they 369 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: step into the octagon. Guys, that was another episode of 370 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: Three Round. Thank you Dean Thomas for joining. Thank you 371 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: for putting up the great fight. I hope to have 372 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: you back next week. Guys like subscribe, tell your friends 373 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: to tell their friends that DC's got a YouTube channel 374 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: and I'm doing things like three rounds every week. And 375 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be joined now by my man Dean Thomas 376 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: because he did a hell of a job. Until next time, 377 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: for Dean Thomas, I'm Daniel Corrier. 378 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: Peace,