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We're 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: live from Washington and we start this Friday with breaking 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: news on Capitol Hill, as Speaker Pelosi tells reporters they 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: still plan plan to vote on the infrastructure bill tonight, 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: along with a rule on the President's spending plan reconciliation, 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: and so we may have conclusion on at least one 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: of the two bills that make up the Biden economic agenda. 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: We may find out together here we didn't even know 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: what was going to happen an hour ago. There's a 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: few moderate members of the House objected to voting on 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the reconciliation bill without a CBO score without actually reading it, 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: while the chair of the Progressive Caucus says they still 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: now want to pass both bills. At the same time, 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: been a lot of meetings in the Speaker's office, and 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna get the latest in just a minute from 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Congressman John Gara Mendi, Democrat from California, serves on the 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. It's gonna be a first 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: hand update on what's actually happening as opposed to what 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: you may have been hearing. An important day for the panel. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor Rick Davis with us for the hour 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: along with Kevin Walling at h G Creative Media, and 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: later on this job's Day, we'll talk about the numbers 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: out this morning from October stronger than expected with Labor 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Secretary Marty Walsh. Has been a busy day as well 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: an uncertain day in the US House, though we just 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: heard from Beaker Nancy Pelosi. Your timing and joining us 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: is impeccable. The Democrats plans for tonight from the Speaker 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: we had hoped to be able to bring both bills 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: to for today. Some members want more of clarification or 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: validation of numbers that have been put forth that it's 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: top line that it is fully paid for, and we 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: under that request. So today we hope to pass the 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: BIFF and also the rule on build back Better with 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: the idea that before Thanksgiving should take another week or 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: so to get the numbers that they're requesting, as as 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't know as that's how long it takes. As 47 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: we do, then we will have a Thanksgiving gift for 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: the American people. All right, There you have it. So 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: they plan to vote or hope to pass the infrastructure 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: bill tonight along with the rule is she said on 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: the bill back Better plan would set the stage for 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: a vote on that legislation by Thanksgiving. And we're lucky 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: to be joined now in the middle of all this. 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: And exclusive conversation with Congressman John Garamandi, Democrat from California, 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: serves on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. It's great 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: to have you back, Congressman. Welcome. Do you expect an 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure votes to be with you? It's going to be 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: and it's a very very important day for America. We 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: are actually going to do the largest infrastructure bill ever 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: in America's history. This is so much bigger than Eisenhower's 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: UH Interstate Highway system because this covers all of the 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: various pieces of infrastructure that we need as the foundation 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: for the economic growth that will come from the Built 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Back Better Bill, which provides the necessary support for American families. 65 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: It is a very very good day for America. How 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: important is it to pass this bill tonight? Do you 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: have the votes? We will have the votes. We're very 68 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: confident we'll have the votes. You heard to speak. Jim 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Clyburne and the the Black Caucus are actually out beating 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: the drums getting people lined up from the Progressive Caucus. 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: So the reality is we will have the votes today 72 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: to move the physical infrastructure, the bricks and mortar, the broadband, 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: water systems, the improvement all of those things that are 74 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: necessary foundations upon which the economy can then grow. So 75 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: it's and we're talking about tens of thousands, in fact, 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: probably millions of jobs to do that physical infrastructure. And 77 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that's where the Build Back Better comes in because it 78 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: provides the training programs, provides the childcare programs, that early 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: childhood education and the Piel grants UH that are necessary 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: for the education and the care of the families. And 81 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: on top of that, you have the largest middle class 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: low income tax cut ever in America's history. Well, congressman's interesting. 83 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: I am imagine you standing up there. Reminds me of 84 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: that song stuck in the middle with you. You've got 85 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: moderates on one side who say I need a CBO 86 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: score and progressives on the other side and say, nope, 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: we gotta post the pope. But past them both at once, 88 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: or there's no deal. What do you think of the 89 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: tact of the Congressional Progressive cauc is to begin with here, 90 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: is that the way this is going to end or 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: or progressive is going to vote for this at the 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: end of the day, Yes, they will vote. You have 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: to advance the Build Back Better legislation, which is the UH, 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: the family care, the early childhood education, the other educational 95 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: programs UH. And that has to be advanced. And so 96 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: the vote this afternoon. First we'll do the hard infrastructure. 97 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Then the vote this afternoon on the rule, which then 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: sets up the final vote on the Build Back Better. 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: So this sequential, it is a sequence that makes sense, 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: and it does, as the Speaker says, give enough time 101 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: for those who are concerned about the cost, which is 102 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: the moderate caucus. So you've got to bring the the 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: There has to be a level of trust here and 104 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: that is developed within the Democratic Caucus. The unfortunate part 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: is we do not anticipate any Republican votes for any 106 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: of this, not for the biff, not a Republican it 107 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: appears that way as as at this moment. Now, what 108 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: will McCarthy do. Will he allow his members to vote 109 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: for the hard infrastructure? We would hope, so, we would 110 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: want it to be a bipartisan We know it's bipartisan 111 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: in the Senate, that's already determined. Can it be bipartisan 112 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: the House? We'll see, But if it's not, the Democrats 113 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: will do what needs to be done to build the 114 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: foundation for American economic growth. Congressman Garamendi, lastly, and I 115 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: know that that you're in the throes of this right now. 116 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: We're looking at images of reporters lining the hallways outside 117 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the Speaker's office, outside offices like yours, in hopes of 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: talking to a lawmaker like you. And we're lucky enough 119 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: to bring you straight to our listeners here. What is 120 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: the actual feeling up there? Is this one of tension 121 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: or people arguing right now? Or do you feel like 122 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: you're you're on the verge of a breakthrough. We're definitely 123 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: on the burge of her breakthrough. Uh. There is a 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: high level of positive anticipation coupled with oh my god, 125 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: we gotta line up the votes. We got to cut 126 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: this deal, we gotta do it now, and so there's 127 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure to get it done. And there's 128 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: also well, are they are the moderates? Are they going 129 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: to actually come along? Or the progressive is actually going 130 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: to do it? I am convinced that we will do it, 131 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why we will do it, because 132 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: the American public needs to have it done. Is it 133 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: an all nighter? Are you about to get this done 134 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: this evening? Well, I pulled more than a few all 135 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: nighters here in Congress. You're bringing the contents to night? No, 136 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that. But the reality is I remember 137 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the all nighters in the day before the final exam 138 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: in college. Okay, so this is the final exampolks. So yeah, 139 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: we gotta be here all night. We'll do it. Well, 140 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it done. Excellent. Uh, Congressman John Garamande, 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: you heard it from the Democrat from California. That's the 142 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee speaking there with the gentleman 143 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: from California. They're prepared for an all nighter. We're going 144 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: to get it done. Oh there you go. Thank you, 145 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Congressman for being with us. I thought he was already gone. 146 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. Absolutely, we're start bringing the panel here because 147 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: I got to hear what everybody thinks about this. Does 148 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: that mean we're up all night? Matt What does that mean? Noow, 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: we're bringing the Cotson. We're going to the mattresses. Bloomberg 150 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Politics contributor Rick Davis is here along with Kevin Walling, 151 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Democratic strategist at h G Creative Media. Rick, a little 152 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: while ago it looked like there'd be no votes. Now 153 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: we get kind of half the pie tonight. What do 154 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: you make of the strategy. I don't know. I'm getting dizzy. 155 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the president goes out this morning 156 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: and says you're gonna vote on this. What do you 157 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: like it or not? There seemed to be like some 158 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: moment to and then bang Jai Paul uh uh just 159 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: torched it and the moderates went out and said, you know, 160 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: we're waiting for CBO again, and nobody knew what was happening, 161 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, there's this Pelosi press 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: conference and this Congressional Black Caucus has come to our aid. 163 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: I still can't figure out what the Congressional Black Caucus 164 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: has done today, but they've done something because I guess 165 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: there's going to be a vote and uh. And what's 166 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: really amazing about this is I got the impression from 167 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the Pelosi press conference just recently that they actually don't 168 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: have the votes for this right now, I mean the 169 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: right So it's another deadline that has been riffed with 170 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: deadlines in this process that could potentially backfire on them, 171 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: and they're out for a week. I can't even imagine 172 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: if they don't get this done what the backlash will be. Like. 173 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: Rick Davis is correct. They're supposed to be on recess 174 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: next week, though there has been some talk of people 175 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: working the weekend. Kevin Walling listened to Nancy Pelosi from 176 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: a very short time ago when asked specifically, our progressive 177 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: is going to vote for this bill, for the infrastructure bill. 178 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I do believe that there are a large number of 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: members of the professive caucus who will vote for the bill. 180 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: That is my understanding with the members all the time, 181 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: I had my own. Now Mr Kleimer has the official 182 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: whip account, I have speaker secret whip count. I don't 183 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: tell anything that people tell me, not even you, my 184 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: dear good friends. But I have a pretty good feeling 185 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: the little black book in the top drawer, Kevin, what 186 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: does she actually know or is she actually going to 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: roll the dice tonight here or does she know that 188 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: enough progressives will vote yes? Yeah, so I think she's 189 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: going to roll the dice tonight. And to rich point, 190 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm just as busy as he is with all this. 191 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I wouldn't count out Speaker Pelosi. This 192 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: is you know, the apex of her career, you know, 193 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: two times Speaker coming back, this is her key priority 194 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: before the mid terms now the we're a year out, um, 195 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't count her out with this. I do 196 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: think to Rick's point, the boats might not be there, 197 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: but she's gonna roll those dice to your point, Joe, 198 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: And we'll see how that goes this evening. For sure, 199 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: I think things are happening in rapid succession in terms 200 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: of moving the rules package for a build back better. Obviously, 201 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: the biff is anyone's guests. You know, it'd be interested 202 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to hear what Rick thinks if any Republicans are going 203 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: to get behind this. I saw Jack Fitzpatrick, your Patrick, 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: your your colleague, Joe saying that you're not gonna be many, 205 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: that we might get a few Republicans. Adam Tinsinger from 206 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Illinois has indicated some support. I don't know if that 207 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: fills the gaff with what we're seeing out of Representative Gyapaul, 208 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: but you know, if anyone's guess as to what is 209 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: actually going to happen, I know the Progressives are meeting 210 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: right now. I saw video footage of all their phones 211 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: being checked in at the huddle to figure out what 212 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna do right now on the floor, Kevin Walling 213 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: is with us, so is Rick Davis. They're gonna stay 214 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: right here. We're building the airplane in flight today, everybody, 215 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: So you pick the right place on bloom This is Bloomberg. 216 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on 217 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. If you're just joining us, welcome to the 218 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: fastest hour in politics as we brace for actual votes 219 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: tonight in the House votes on the infrastructure bill as 220 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: well on a rule for the Build Back Better Plan. 221 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: And this all follows President Biden's direct appeal to lawmakers 222 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: earlier today to pass his economic agenda. I'm asking every 223 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: House member, member of the House Representatives to vote yes 224 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: on both these bills right now. Send infrastructure bill to 225 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: my desk. Send a build Back Better build of the Senate. 226 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: Let's let's build an incredible economic progress, build on what 227 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: we've already done, because this will be such a boost 228 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: when it occurs. The President was delivering a speech on 229 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: today's stronger than expected jobs report, which will talk about 230 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: a bit later on this hour with Labor Secretary Marty Walsh. 231 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: We want to go straight to Capitol Hill right now though. 232 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: And Eric Wasson Bloomberg Congress reporter Eric Wasson has been 233 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: scouring the corridors of the capital for news throughout the day, 234 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: and if you're not following on him on Twitter, then 235 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: you are missing out. Eric. It's great for you to 236 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: stop your work for just a minute to talk to 237 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: us here. It looks like we're going to get a 238 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: vote tonight. I guess the question is when and does 239 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi have the numbers? Yeah, you know, this has 240 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: been a really topsy turvy day. You know, we've talked 241 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot about Democrats and disarray. This has been one 242 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: of the most incredible days I've ever seen as far 243 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: as that you know, disarray factor. You know, Possy is 244 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: calling for a vote on this BIPARS and infrastructure bill. 245 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: This is the third time they've tried to bring it 246 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: to the floor, but Progressives are showing once again if 247 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: they're prepared to bring it down, she's going to be 248 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: whipping the vote. She's on the floor right now, trying 249 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: to twist arms. They think there are a couple of 250 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: votes away. You know. A big factor here's whether the Republicans, uh, 251 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, tend to twenty of them vote for it. Uh. 252 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, there's gonna be a vote on this rule 253 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: to bring for the one point seven five trillion Biden agenda, 254 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: But there's no sign, you know, that they're gonna be 255 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: able to vote anytime soon. Moderates want to see a 256 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: full price tack on that, which won't be available until 257 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: around Thanksgiving. So she she's whipping it. But we we 258 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to pass to that. As 259 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Eric, we've been here a couple of times already, 260 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: to three times already. Does it feel different this time? 261 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Is Nancy Pelosi prepared to stick her neck out a 262 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: little bit and actually bring this to a vote without 263 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: necessarily knowing how many Republicans quote offset progressives? Or does 264 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: this come down to the math and then we'll decide 265 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: whether we bring it to the floor. Well, you know 266 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: it would I think perhaps will be more embarrassing she'd 267 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: bring it to the floor. But maybe she'll do that. 268 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: You know, the President came up here twice asked for them, 269 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, trying to pressure them and without explicitly saying it, 270 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: to bring this vote up and progressive signal they can't 271 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: go forward. They're still trying to. They don't trust that 272 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: moderates will vote for their other social spending plan without 273 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: taking this hostage. Is a level of lack of trust 274 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: within the party that's really quite astonishing. And uh, you know, 275 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I think that the president is called members of the 276 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: Progressive Caucus, calling other members, went on TV calling for 277 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: them to come together. This is going to be real 278 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: tests of his leadership as well. Wait, I don't know 279 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: what kind of an urgency we have in the air 280 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: here to get something done. Congressman John Garamendi told us 281 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago, Eric, that they're preparing for 282 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: an all nighter. Are they gonna start dragging Cotson? Is 283 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: it gonna be one of those or do you expect 284 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: we'll we'll have an up or down on this pretty soon? Oh? 285 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go go for a while. We're 286 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: just they already held the longest House vote in modern 287 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: history today with the Republican motion to adjourn, and it 288 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: was held open for hours and hours actually whooping the vote. 289 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: So they're already breaking records here on Capitol Hill. Eric 290 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: Wasson Bloomberg Congress Reporter, thanks for stopping down for us, 291 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: Eric for the update. That's that's the real stuff. That's 292 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: real time for you there from Eric Wasson with us 293 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Sound on the President appealing not only to lawmakers, 294 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: what appeeling directly to the American people on this today. 295 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm passing these bills. We'll say clearly to American people, 296 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: we hear your voices. We're going to invest in your hopes, 297 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: help you secure a brighter future for yourself and for 298 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: your family, and make sure that America whens the future 299 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: in the process. Let's take another swing with the panel. 300 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Rick Davis is with us along with Kevin Walling today 301 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: our panel on this Friday. Rick, how much do you 302 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: think the momentum here, if we can call it, that 303 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: had to do with the president's appeal this morning. It 304 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: was one of the first things you mentioned. Yeah, I 305 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: think the President once again has put his prestige on 306 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: the line. Uh. We've seen this now a couple of 307 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: times too, trips to the Hill, as Eric mentioned on 308 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: his reporting, but two speeches from the White House also 309 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: and directly calling members. I mean, he's got everything on 310 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: the line right now, and it's been a horrible week. 311 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: He got back from the COP twenty six without really 312 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: any tangible product progress, only to be met with a 313 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: huge and embarrassing loss in Virginia's governor's race. So I 314 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: I gotta believe that this is uh in the White 315 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: House is thinking, uh, the last stand. If they can't 316 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: turn the corner today and do something so that it's 317 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: positive in a in a week that's coming with no 318 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: congressional news, Uh, you know, then they're they're really sunk 319 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: for this year and then it's midterms. So this is 320 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: really the president putting his prestige, his his politics on 321 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the line. And I would admit I've believed everything that 322 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Walling has told me about Nancy Pelosi's incredible Houdini 323 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: acts as speaker, but I'm afraid some of that magic 324 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: is starting to wear out. Well, I'll tell you what, though, Kevin, 325 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: if this is the last stand, then we're going to 326 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: bring this to a vote and see if it passes. No, 327 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: this sounds like a real Western that's going on here. 328 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: I think it is. You know, I don't think we 329 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: have any delays last you know, I'm in agreement with 330 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: break It's been one of the toughest weeks for this president, 331 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: although the job numbers were really good. Obviously the White 332 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: House is taking the lead with that. I'm really excited 333 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: to hear your view with Secretary Walsh. And it's not 334 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: just the President pulling out stops actually working this boat. 335 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: Obviously other cabinet secretaries are. But I've seen him now 336 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: in a way he engaged on this that I really 337 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen before making these calls. He just called represented 338 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: a giant hall within the last twenty or so minutes 339 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: up she was pulled out of that Progressive Caucus huddle. Um, 340 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: So I think this is make or break for him tonight, 341 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: and this is a legacy making thin because again, as you, 342 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Joe have been reviewing, you know, we were out for 343 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: the next week and then we come back and we've 344 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: got the dead feeling debate against budget. December third is 345 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: looming along with holiday recess. Kevin Walling, Rick Davis with 346 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: us for the hour our panel on this Friday. We're 347 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna talk to the Labor Secretary ahead and check traffic 348 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: and the markets on the way. This is Bloomberger broadcasting 349 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: live from our nation's capital, Bloomberg to New York, Bloomberg 350 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: eleven Frio to Boston, Bloomberg one six one to send 351 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: for Cisco, Bloomberg nine sixty to the country, Serious XM 352 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: General one nine te and around the globe, the Bloomberg 353 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: Business app and Bloomberg Radio dot Com. This is Bloomberg 354 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: Sound On with Joe Matthew. The headline on the terminal 355 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: US job growth quickens as gain of five d thirty 356 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: one thousand jobs outstrips estimates. How about it? As I 357 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: read the labor market got back on track last month 358 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: with a larger than forecast and broad based payrolls gained, 359 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: indicating greater progress filling millions of vacancies as the effects 360 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: of the delts of variant faded. President Biden addressed the 361 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: nation after the report came out. Our economy is on 362 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the move. This morning, we learned that in October, our 363 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: economy created five thirty one thousand jobs, well above expectations. 364 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: We also learned that job growth over the prior two 365 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: months August and September was nearly two more jobs and 366 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: previously thought. We talked about it now with the Secretary 367 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: of Labor, Marty Walsh, joining us on this Job's Day, 368 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Mr Secretary, welcome back to Bloomberg Radio. Thank you for 369 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: having me today. So the headline number on this report 370 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: is far stronger than expected. The revisions are adding to 371 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: the positivity. It seems like the markets are reacting certainly 372 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: with a nice surge here, and people smarter than I 373 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: am are trying to write a narrative around this report. Secretary, 374 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: did the month of October present a turning point for 375 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: the job market? I don't. I don't think I can 376 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: say that yet, but but certainly one of the one 377 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: of the I think one of the key points of 378 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: this month's report is the growth that we saw. It 379 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: was in several sectors. I think we we we saw it. 380 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we saw it in manufacturing, business services, instruction, transportation, hospitality, 381 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: food services, and help healthcare. And we haven't had that 382 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: type of um, multi industry growth since I've been Secretary Labor, 383 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: and I think that that death says a law. UM. 384 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: We also have yesterday's report, the unemployment employment claims it down. 385 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: It's another good sign. Um. You know, since the President 386 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: has taken office, uh, five point six million jobs have 387 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: been added to the economy. Uh that's per month, which 388 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: is great. So I think that the plan that the 389 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: President laid out and his team laid out in the 390 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: beginning of his term here in January is certainly seeing 391 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: benefits of that plan. UM. A couple of things that 392 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: that that we still have to keep a really extrong 393 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: close eye on his labor particiant patient rage is not 394 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: moving much. It hasn't moved much in the last several months. 395 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: And one number that kind of jumps out of me 396 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: this morning when we're going over it was about three 397 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: point eight million people have told us that they're not 398 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: re entering the workforce because of COVID. That's a large 399 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: group of people that would be otherwise in participating in 400 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: the workforce that aren't. So there's still fears of COVID 401 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: out there that we have to work on. Like to 402 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: pick through a couple of those points with you while 403 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: we're talking, Secretary, there have been a lot of questions 404 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: about workforce participation, as there have been for months. Are 405 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: you concerned this this number not moving enough? And when 406 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: do you think that might change? Well? Yesterday, Uh, here 407 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: at the Department lay but we put out an emergency, 408 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: temporary standard for employers with over a hundred hundred or 409 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: more employees that they would require vaccinations uh and test 410 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: band or testing not the end vaccinations or testing, I 411 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: should say, uh and and quite honestly, I think that 412 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: that will um and the reason for it is really 413 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: to create a safe work environment, so people feel safe 414 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: in their work environment. Um and I think hopefully, And 415 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: we'll see it too early now we just announced yesterday, 416 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: but we're gonna watch. I'm gonna watch that participation number 417 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: very closely along with the ETS as it goes into effect. 418 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: To see if there's a correlation there, and I think 419 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: to some degree that will be some type of correlation. 420 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: There's also an issue I believe with adequacy accessing childcare. 421 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: We saw in this the month's with number UM women 422 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: made up half of the job games and I was 423 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: asked the question, really, why is that the case? And 424 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: I would make an assumption it's because school started, UH 425 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: in the free up families and mothers to be able 426 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: to get back to the workforce. UM. Many mothers don't 427 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: have school aged children, they have younger children. So those 428 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: those families are still struggling with what do we do now? 429 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: And the cost of paying for childcare is to exorbitate. 430 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: And that's why the Build Back Better Reconciliation plan is 431 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: so important because it does address this issue directly on it. Well, 432 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: if COVID is still such a factor, Secretary, Well, employer 433 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: mandates the vaccine requirements that that you are working with 434 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: now for companies a hundred employees and larger help to 435 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: bring more workers back, you know, I dig it will 436 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: And just be clear, what we did yesterday is not 437 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: a mandate. Workers have the choice to get vaccinated or 438 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: undergo weekly testing. UM. However, if you look at companies 439 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: that have put in mandates UM for vaccines. Uh, but 440 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: pre prior to what we did yesterday, UM, the compliance 441 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: rate is high of people getting vaccinated, and we're not 442 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: seeing large amounts of people leave the workforce because of vaccine. 443 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: We're seeing large amounts of people not going back to 444 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: the workforce because of COVID. If Congress finally passes infrastructure 445 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: and the president's spending plan is he just called for 446 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: in his address on the Job's Report, Secretary Walsh, what 447 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: would it mean for the job market. We're talking potentially 448 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: about thousands of construction projects getting underway. Yeah, it means 449 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: that it's going to keep a strong pipeline as we 450 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: move into two and twenty three and twenty four. It's 451 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: going to keep the economy in a strong way, at 452 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: least on the on the the the bipartisan infrastructure built 453 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: piece of it moving forward, We're talking about replacing like pipes. 454 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about bring clean drinking water to all homes 455 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: in America. We're talking about broadband into homes in rural America. 456 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: We're talking about rose and bridges reconstruction. We're talking electric 457 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: Childers stations. So on the physical side, it's an investment 458 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: that's long overdue. On the on the on the buildback 459 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: better reconciliation side, it means we can we can finally 460 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: address childcare in this country and allow families the opportunity 461 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: that earned under three hundred thousand dollars a year UH 462 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: do not have to pay for of their salaries for childcare. UH. 463 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: There's there's a capital seven percent and allows us the 464 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: opportunity us also to invest in folks that work in 465 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: that industry that quite honestly can't can't make ends meet 466 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: even though they qualify. They're great, they're wonderful with our kids, 467 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: but they can't. They can't raise a family. There that 468 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: allows us the opportunity to help them lift their wages. 469 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: So there's lots of great opportunity, in my opinion, in 470 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: these two bills. And there's other things as well and 471 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: in their consiliation package that that I could get into. 472 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: But I think in that area is the theme of today, 473 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: and I think it would be a huge support for 474 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: the American worker. I hear secretary from Republicans almost daily 475 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: on this program about inflation, and they use that as 476 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: an argument against passing this legislation. President Biden uses it 477 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: as an argument for passing this legislation. I just wonder, 478 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: from your perch at labor wages have been surging through 479 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: the year, do you see them keeping up with inflation? 480 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we haven't gotten it yet, all right, 481 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: and we're still working towards that. But I always say 482 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: that these investments that that we want to make in 483 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: American people in infrastructure along overdue. So I mean I 484 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: think that you know, get Treasury Yelling is working on 485 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: on the inflation numbers, and she's talking about how do 486 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: we how do we level that off, and how do 487 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: we make sure that we bring inflation down and how 488 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: do we make sure that it doesn't price families out 489 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: of their homes? Number one? But number two the other side, 490 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: these investments we want to make American people deserve the 491 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: investments that are in front of Congress. Now. I don't 492 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: know how anyone can look at their their constituents in 493 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: the face and say, listen, I'm going to vote against 494 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: family leave, I'm going to vote against child here, I'm 495 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: going to vote against investments in in universal pre kidneygarten. 496 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, not not not invested in workforce development. 497 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 1: These are all things that American people deserve and they 498 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: should get. And a large majority of American people support 499 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: these investments. And I think that we have to do, 500 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: once these bills passed, explain to people what these these 501 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: these investments can be transformative for the American worker right 502 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: now that's struggling to make ends meet out there, and 503 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: they're saying, wait a second, no helping me. These investments 504 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: help those people. Secretary Walsh, appreciate your time with us 505 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: today on Bloomberg Radio. All right, my friend, thank you. 506 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: It's a better report than we've probably had a chance 507 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: to discuss with the Labor Secretary, and glad he could 508 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: join us today on this job's day. But as you 509 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: just heard, you can't talk about jobs with the conversation 510 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: not ending up. Sorry for the double negative on infrastructure. 511 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: Labor Secretary doing the rounds today just as President Biden 512 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: was making the case for the House to pass the plan. 513 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: And if you're playing along on your home game, we 514 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: are updating you. There could be a vote tonight the 515 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: biff infrastructure. That's what Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, Also vote 516 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: on a rule over the Better Build Back Better plan 517 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: that would bring us to maybe passage round thanksgiving us 518 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: the idea, we'll update you and get analysis from our panel. 519 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Coming up once again, we'll have Rick Davis Kevin Walling 520 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: with us on sound on. We'll check traffic and market 521 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: to I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. 522 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. They've 523 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: got plans tonight in the House, as we've been reporting on, 524 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's speaker Nancy Pelosi calling for actual votes on the 525 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: president's economic agenda. She spoke with reporters a short time ago. 526 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: So today we hope to pass the biff and also 527 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: the rule on build that better with the idea that 528 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: before Thanks give health should take another week or so 529 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: to get the numbers that they're requesting. So past the 530 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: biff and the rule, that's the plan, but are the 531 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: votes there? As I read the headline on the terminal, 532 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: Pelosi pushes for infrastructure vote as Biden plan delayed, and 533 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: we reassemble the panel. Bloomberg Politics contributor Rick Davis is 534 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: with us for the hour along with Kevin Walling, Democratic 535 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: strategist at h G Creative Media. How long do we 536 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: drag this out. Rick, you were talking about the possibility 537 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: of an all nighter here, But how long can Nancy 538 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: Felosi hold lawmakers hostage on this bill before everybody goes 539 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: home for a recess. Well that may ultimately be her 540 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: best strategy, which is just keep them there until they 541 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: get so pained. I mean, every one of these members 542 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: had plans for the recess week. They want to get back, 543 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: They wanted, you know, talk to their political operations after 544 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: a very divisive election cycle where Democrats are on defense. 545 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: So um, maybe maybe she just cold sweats them long 546 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: enough to say that she's going to keep this thing 547 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: open until until they go I I did think it 548 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: was interesting that they had to scramble today after the 549 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Republicans put on a motion to adjourn and they didn't 550 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: have the votes to actually beat it back. That would 551 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: have been a huge embarrassment for the President and for 552 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: the Speaker. But she owns the clock, and as long 553 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: as that clock is in her hands, she can keep 554 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: these folks here as long as she wants and until 555 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: she gets those votes. I would think she's she's not 556 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: let anybody go home. Kevin Walling, we heard from the 557 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: President earlier on jobs. We just heard from Secretary Marty 558 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: Walsh here on jobs. Uh, this should have been a 559 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: big day, right to celebrate this much stronger than expected 560 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: jobs report. People looking for things to complain about, we're 561 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: having trouble finding them inside all of the internal numbers. Uh. 562 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: And he turned the conversation Secretary Walsh to infrastructure, much 563 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: like Joe Biden did today at the White House. Why 564 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: not stop and celebrate this number. It's a good question, Joe. 565 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: I I think I would have done that. I think 566 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: they're making the plan and the play to harness these 567 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: great numbers. And and that just the numbers out obviously 568 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: for the month of October five new jobs, but also 569 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: you know what goes under reported is the adjustments that 570 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: are made after the fact too, in terms of upward 571 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: jobs and previous months as well. So all the trend 572 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: lines are in the right direction. I think they made 573 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: the gamba that Okay, let's get a positive news cycle 574 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: under our belts after you know, really bruising a week 575 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: that Rick was talking about with the President's overseas travel 576 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: obviously with Virginia and a really close selection in New Jersey. Um, 577 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: so I think they wanted to push some momentum here. Uh, 578 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: it seems like the president is still not wheels up. 579 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: I think he was planning on traveling to the summer 580 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: White House in my hometown, Rehoba Beach, Delaware. They're still 581 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: at the White House working the votes on this uh. 582 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: And it's anyone's guests, you know, in this kind of 583 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: war of attrition now votes of attrition to Rick's point, 584 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: keeping them here, a lot of you know, a lot 585 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: of the under kind of reported stories too are not 586 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: just folks going back to their districts, but there's a 587 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: lot of actual codells that are scheduled for next week 588 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: as well, in terms of members traveling overseas, kind of 589 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Centator McCain as well. And that's even more in question 590 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: because that's a lot of overseas traveling logistics with that, 591 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: uh to to kind of think through those ramifications of 592 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: votes through the weekend. So another real kind of deadline 593 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: to to to consider here, rickets. That's tough. This should 594 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: have been a really good news day for this White House. 595 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: But we're not talking about jobs. Granted, the market rallied today, 596 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: but we're not talking about this job's report. On the 597 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: political program on Bloomberg Radio, we're talking about whether or 598 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: not this bill can pass again, like nothing has changed. Yeah, 599 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: I I do think it's a missed opportunity. But this 600 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: overshadows the congressional effort to pass trillions of dollars suspending 601 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: overshadows UH, one month of a good jobs report. Um. 602 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: Obviously Democrats are doing the best job they can to 603 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: try and spin it into like this is why we 604 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: need uh, the the bills to be signed and voted 605 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: in the law. But what's interesting is, UM, when you 606 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: really boil it down, UH, they they've got a big 607 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: gap of people who are just sort of sitting on 608 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: the sidelines. I think Marty Walsh said three point eight 609 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: million people who aren't going back to the workforce because 610 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: of COVID. Even if they pass these bills, you're still 611 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: gonna have trucking shortages, you know, your backups at the ports, 612 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: all the problems that we've been talking about for the 613 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: last month on supply chains falling apart. Um. Uh, you 614 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: need those three point eight people back into workforce and uh, 615 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: and everything always gets back to COVID. We've been talking 616 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: about this for two years almost now, but but you 617 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: know that's still the number one issue that is haunting 618 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: the Biden administration right now. Well, we talked about the 619 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: I know they don't like to use the word mandates, Kevin, 620 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: but the requirement, the new vaccine requirements to actually put 621 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: this together at last in an ocean rule that won't 622 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: actually take effect until the beginning of the year. Right, So, 623 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: is that what finally fills these jobs? That does that 624 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: bring people out of their home and back into the workplace. Yeah, 625 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: I think so to some degree. I mean, that's actually 626 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: one of the really strong positive stories coming out of 627 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: this White House is the sheer number with regards to 628 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: that those vaccination level Americans have at least that one 629 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: dose about are fully vaccinated. Obviously, the booster rollout is 630 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: still progressing. But I think that you know that this administration, 631 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: more than anything, has been focused maybe too detriment in 632 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: terms of the econmuny and and not really tackling inflation 633 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: as early as it could have been supply chain issues. 634 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: To Rick's point, this White has been focused like the 635 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: laser on the COVID crisis, on vaccinations, hammering home these 636 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: mandates coupled with testing um So all indications are, you know, 637 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: once we get this crisis under control, and we're all 638 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: headed in the right direction. My you know, the towns 639 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: around me, Virginia's you know, taking back to mass mandates, 640 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: Montgomery County, all around the d m B. For many 641 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: folks listening are scaling back those mandates. That's a really 642 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: good thing with regards to masking UM. So all indications 643 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: are we're heading in that direction correctly, with that Ocean ruling, 644 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: with more of these larger and small businesses moving forward, 645 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: with some summons of some mandates coupled with testing UM. 646 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: You know, I think you saw a lot of push 647 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: back in right wing media about mandates and stuff like 648 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: that on Fox News where I spent a lot of 649 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: my time. That has really become a nothing burger with 650 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: regards to some of the police and firefighters and stuff 651 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: like that. The real small number of folks that are 652 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: holding as actually the majority of them are are actually 653 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: moving forward. I saw Tom Wolf and Testimania said if 654 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: you're a state employe, you can have five days off 655 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: if you're you know, one of these vaccines hold us. 656 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: I think that might move the ball down the field 657 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: even more than mandates five days off as for a 658 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: state employee. So it's pretty good to me. Well, I'll 659 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: tell you there. Although we still have some issues in 660 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: New York City with with municipal workers on unpaid leave, 661 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: but that's a whole different story. I do want to 662 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: do you want to ask you about the life of 663 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: Senator Joe Mansion. As we talked to the panel here, 664 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: he's not making a lot of friends, uh, pretty much 665 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: anywhere as I can see, including when he tries to 666 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: get get up in the morning and go to his car. 667 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Did you guys see this. We've witnessed a couple of 668 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: these in person attacks by protesters. At one point they 669 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: followed Kirston, sent him into a bathroom stall. And in 670 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: this particular case, it's from a group called Hunger Strike 671 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: for Climate Justice. As I read, we're here at sunrise 672 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: at Senator Joe Mansion's dock. They went over where the 673 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: house boat is home to his five million dollar house boat, 674 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: and you know they're surrounding him as he's walking out 675 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: of the boat on his way to the car. Listen 676 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: to the serious they're chanting. We want to live. They 677 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: write mansions doc home to his five million dollar house boat, 678 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: bought by fossil fuel money. As I read from the tweet, 679 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: to call out his greed and corruption that is torching 680 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: our future, Rick Davis. They followed him all the way 681 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: down into the garage. He got into his car, and 682 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: they're laying on the roof of the car to try 683 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: to keep him from leaving the Wharf parking garage not 684 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: far from where I am sitting. This kind of stuff. 685 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: It said, we demand Senate democratic leadership. Removed Joe Manchon 686 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: from his position as chair of the Energy and Natural 687 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: Resources Committee. Is this just a symptom of the debate 688 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: taking so long or maybe too long? Or is this 689 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: simply the political world that we're living in now. If 690 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: you're a member of Congress, you should assume that you'll 691 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: be accosted on the street, at the restaurant, in the bathroom. Yeah, 692 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: this is nothing new. I mean, you know, we had 693 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: the pink ladies and the old days during Iraq and 694 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: Afghanistan war. That would you know, do the same things. Look, 695 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is what makes the country interesting, right, 696 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if he didn't have protesters laying on his car, 697 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: what would we do for entertainment in this town? And 698 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: and so like, I'm for it. I love protesting. I 699 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: mean I think it's you know, it's so uniquely American, 700 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: right in other countries they just get locked up, and 701 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, Mansion would have no problem getting to his car, 702 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: and so like we got to celebrate this kind of activity. 703 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: The bad news his you know that that that that 704 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: poor Majority Leader Schumer's gotta like, you know, deal with 705 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: the aftermath of this, which is, I really piste off. 706 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: Mansion's desperately yet trying to get his vote for these things, 707 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: and he's not that he's not getting in a good 708 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: mood when he gets to the office after that. I mean, well, 709 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure, so I let's you happy behind the wheel 710 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: of that car as they're laying on on the hood there. 711 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: But I think the hippie side Rick Davis's hippie side 712 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: is coming out a little bit here. This is a 713 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: whole different part of Rick Davis. Do you agree? Cabin? 714 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: Is this safe? Uh? For everybody? I mean, I have 715 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: to admit when I saw the deo, I would have 716 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: been pretty freaked out if I was John Manchin, who 717 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: knew that Rick Davis was such a flower child, protests Rob. 718 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: I love it. I love this, Yeah, I mean I 719 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: think it doesn't obviously, you know, for the ball down 720 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: the field with these folks and again following you know, 721 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: a woman into a bathroom and screaming adder behind a 722 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: stall is you know, criminal to some degree. So there 723 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: are lines you say, yeah, I'm all about I'm all 724 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: about protests too with Rick in terms of you know, 725 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: the great elements of the labor movement and take to 726 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: the streets. You know, you saw the empowerment of the 727 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: Women's March in the wake of Donald Trump's selection. That's great, 728 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: that energy, hardness, that energy again mounting the man's car, 729 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, attacking his boat. You know, I don't think 730 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: that's a winning strategy actually getting his vote. At the 731 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: end of the day, it actually worked out pretty well 732 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: when when the protesters used rafts and canoes and they 733 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: seem to have a more cordial conversation. I don't know. 734 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm with Rick Davis. Grab your pitchforks and ride to 735 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: the sound of the guns. Rick Davis, Kevin Walling, great 736 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: analysis and a lot of information on the broadcast today. 737 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: Let's see if we get a vote and stay with 738 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: us to find out. On Bloomberg Radio. I'm Joe Matthew. 739 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. This is Bloomberg