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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. So tell me about your take on disclosure

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Speaker 1: these days and this essay you just wrote, you know,

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Speaker 1: just to go back and set the table about it.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a decade ago, maybe eight years ago, that Richard

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Speaker 1: Dolan and I wrote a book called A d After Disclosure.

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Speaker 1: You were on the program with me. I was, in fact,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, you know, being on Coast, somebody

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Speaker 1: should really do a research paper on the kind of

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Speaker 1: rituals that Coast to Coast guests go through as they

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Speaker 1: prepare for a show, because I gotta tell you, it's

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Speaker 1: always fun to do this show and you always have

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. How am I going to be

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Speaker 1: awake to do it? Clear? But so Dolan and I

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Speaker 1: we had read five thousand books we thought about UFOs

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Speaker 1: trying to prove they were real, and we thought, well,

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Speaker 1: why don't we write a book that assumes they're real

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Speaker 1: and talks about what's going to happen after we all

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Speaker 1: admitted to ourselves. Right. So I've been on that path

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Speaker 1: for a while and it it's clear, I think to

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Speaker 1: anyone that studies this at all, and you obviously are

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Speaker 1: exposed to it on a nightly basis. But there's something changing.

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Speaker 1: There is some kind of situation that is pivoting where

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Speaker 1: we're starting to see the outlines that some kind of

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Speaker 1: acknowledgement that we're not alone is coming. We don't quite

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Speaker 1: see the contours of exactly how it's going to come,

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Speaker 1: but it is coming. And it just occurred to me

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. You know, we're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of some really tough times right now. We've got

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus going on and the number of people who

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Speaker 1: have passed is just horrific, and the economy is on

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Speaker 1: the precipice of cratering. And then we've got demands for

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Speaker 1: racial justice out there and the protests are continuing. And

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Speaker 1: even if we solved all those tomorrow, we still have

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Speaker 1: the challenges of climate disaster. There's extinction, poverty, and refugees

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Speaker 1: and nuclear bombs, and so the question is, well, how

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Speaker 1: can we really add aliens to this mix? You know,

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Speaker 1: that's just too much, it's you know, we're just too

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Speaker 1: unbalanced and chaotic. But it occurred to me that some

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Speaker 1: of the very things that Richard Dolan and I had

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Speaker 1: spoken about might happen in the aftermath of disclosure, some

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Speaker 1: of the more chaotic things are already happening right now.

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Speaker 1: So I just believe that we need to be prepared

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Speaker 1: for this thing to come down the pike anytime. And

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Speaker 1: if I was one of the managers of this secret,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what else to call them there,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who they are by name, but

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Speaker 1: there are obviously people who manage a secret that's been

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Speaker 1: kept for seventy years, and they've got to have been

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Speaker 1: making some decisions to inch closer on disclosure. And so

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Speaker 1: the question they must be asking themselves with all this chaos,

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Speaker 1: has the time passed? Do we need to wait? And

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the time has passed. I think this

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Speaker 1: the title of the essay that you're talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: on medium right now, but you know it's called we

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Speaker 1: Can Handle the Truth? Why now is the perfect time

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Speaker 1: to end the UFO cover up? And even though I'm

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Speaker 1: not making a prediction, I'm simply saying it's not the

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Speaker 1: worst time to do it. Uh. There there never will

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Speaker 1: be a perfect time to do it, but there there

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Speaker 1: are times where, if you think about it, here's a

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Speaker 1: couple of positives that if we did it, um it

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Speaker 1: could be good because if it happened in a slow newsday,

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Speaker 1: then the chaos of disclosure would dominate the airwaves twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven. Well, that won't happen if it were

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Speaker 1: to be disclosed in this year, because there's so much

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Speaker 1: else going on, it would have to fight for its

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Speaker 1: own space. And also might be good, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, if we could disclose that we're not alone. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and you know, these these protests we're having and the

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Speaker 1: grappling with how we're going to deal with race in

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Speaker 1: this country, we might start to at least get a

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Speaker 1: glimmer that we're more alike than different, and that that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a terrible thing if that was a byproduct

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Speaker 1: of disclosure. Absolutely. In the movie Few Good Men, Jack

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Speaker 1: Nicholson on the witness stand said, you can't handle the truth.

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Speaker 1: I think we can handle the truth. Well, that's what

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Speaker 1: you know. I wrote a probably twenty seven The medium

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Speaker 1: says it's the twenty seven minute reads. I guess I

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Speaker 1: had a lot to say on it, but I do

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Speaker 1: think we can handle the truth. And it's interesting you

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Speaker 1: pull up the Nicholson quote because I really think, and

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Speaker 1: this goes back to when I was producing Dark Skies.

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Speaker 1: We tried to make that television series kind of an

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Speaker 1: external debate on the disclosure issue. One of the characters

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Speaker 1: was the institutional military guy, the Frank Bach character, and

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Speaker 1: his attitude was Nicholson like, you can't handle the truth.

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Speaker 1: He felt like, you don't want to tell people they

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Speaker 1: don't need to know, they shouldn't they shouldn't know that

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Speaker 1: it'll just cause him grief. And then we had the

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Speaker 1: younger guy, John Loeingard character whose opinion was the opposite,

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Speaker 1: which is people have a right to know. And here's

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Speaker 1: what I always thought about that debate. The reason it

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Speaker 1: was so good and it kept our series running smoothly

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Speaker 1: is that they're both kind of right. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're both a little bit right. And so at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, it is true, we probably won't

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Speaker 1: handle the truth perfectly, but we can handle it and

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Speaker 1: we need to get on with it. And so I

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Speaker 1: think over the years, what's happened is that the people

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Speaker 1: who were the you can't handle it group, they've been predominant.

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Speaker 1: And I think that if you really take a look

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Speaker 1: at what's in the news and how we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this issue now and some of the players that have

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Speaker 1: been released into the issue, you sort of start to

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Speaker 1: see that the tide is turning, and it's it's getting

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Speaker 1: closer and closer to where people are just going to

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Speaker 1: shrug and say, you know, I don't care what the

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Speaker 1: truth is, but I want to know it. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of the have gone verifying that these videos

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Speaker 1: are truly unknown, at least they didn't say they were phony.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a game changer, George, I really, I

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Speaker 1: really do. I have a lot of questions. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we still don't know exactly why they were released or how,

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Speaker 1: and we also don't know why just short clips were

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Speaker 1: released when obviously, if a guy is running his gun

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Speaker 1: camera on an F eighteen and he encounters something, he's

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Speaker 1: not going to shut it off. Yeah, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to turn it off. So obviously there are longer tapes

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Speaker 1: that exist out there and probably in five KHD, and

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Speaker 1: I would assume certain senators and maybe even Trump has

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Speaker 1: seen the longer versions. But I think that they're a

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Speaker 1: game changer because what you know, we can only go

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Speaker 1: with what we know. What do we know? Well, we

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Speaker 1: know they got released even though it's unclear why it happened.

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Speaker 1: It does mean somebody who knew better, who knew if

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Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about UFOs, don't release them,

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Speaker 1: got them least anyway, all right, Which means that somebody

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Speaker 1: within the DoD thinks that it was a good idea

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Speaker 1: to get this conversation started, get the party going. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I'm hopeful about them and why I think

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Speaker 1: that they are a game changer that makes sense is

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Speaker 1: they do set a predicate for congressional hearings, given that

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Speaker 1: they've already spurred several high level briefings between senators and

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Speaker 1: some of these pilots, right, so people have started talking

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Speaker 1: about him in the halls of power. And the wedge

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Speaker 1: issue that may cause disclosure unless there's some kind of

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Speaker 1: mass sighting. But short of that, the wedge issue that's

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Speaker 1: going to cause disclosure is this military angle that somehow

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Speaker 1: the military is encountering these and for example, the carrier

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Speaker 1: group is a nuclear carrier group, and you know these

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Speaker 1: UAP or UFOs, whatever you want to call them, have

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Speaker 1: been seen in association with our military nuclear weapons. So

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Speaker 1: if there was ever of a national security reason to

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Speaker 1: start talking about it, that's what that's the way into it.

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Speaker 1: And then, of course, you know, I'm sure we all

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Speaker 1: would agree that you may start talking about national security,

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Speaker 1: but pretty soon you're going to want to know who

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Speaker 1: are they, what do they want? And are we safe?

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Speaker 1: And once we start asking those questions, you know, watch

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Speaker 1: out the cats out of the bag and it's it's

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