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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 1: Barely Bow the great z the hop for the next

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Speaker 1: m C training camp continues, there is a a speaker.

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Speaker 1: I'm in just a second. And no, we were not

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Speaker 1: like the video was live of the tent. There was

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Speaker 1: like he's fine, composed, calm. We have hands most of

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Speaker 1: like you. Displease your man. I know I want to

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Speaker 1: be I want to be drinking from the fountain of

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Speaker 1: pure joy to just make it happen. For what do

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Speaker 1: you got going on over here? You've got things, You've

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Speaker 1: he's gonna grab a sweep. Until seven o'clock last night,

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Speaker 1: the street. I think it's amazing, um that the whatever

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Speaker 1: had for these type of things for like five years,

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Speaker 1: as long as I've been doing the show with you.

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Speaker 1: It feels like sixty of the time it works. None works,

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Speaker 1: and you would I think you're generous. Today works none.

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Speaker 1: It feels like then we don't think about it again

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Speaker 1: He was at most. But I'm more amazed by as

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Speaker 1: the last time that I looked, we had close to

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Speaker 1: seven thousand people watched yesterday's forty two minutes of CBD

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. That didn't help no sound. You find that surprising?

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Speaker 1: I feel the left. I think what people said something

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Speaker 1: come across on the social None other than the off

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Speaker 1: putting through a personal offensive line clinic of our offensive line. Now,

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Speaker 1: how has that come about? How much did you look

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Speaker 1: no nothing that I love more than talking about mushroom

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Speaker 1: you noticed I was unprepared because I was wearing flip

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie because Joe Betonio was rating is

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Speaker 1: So it was really cool. I was it was It

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Speaker 1: Brown's offensive lineman. Just trying to share the wisdom that

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Speaker 1: line is because they could run a four and we couldn't.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta find some way to preach that gap

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Speaker 1: to have an advantage towards you. And so that advantage

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Speaker 1: to be able to cut the time in half that

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Speaker 1: you're reacting to what they're doing, has got to be

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Speaker 1: the knowledge side of it. The I know what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do and I'm thinking about it, so when they

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Speaker 1: do it, I'm not reacting and thinking, oh now, they're spinning.

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Speaker 1: Oh how do I stop that? It's here comes to spin.

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Speaker 1: So when they do it, you're cutting your reaction time

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Speaker 1: by a split second. But that's the difference between success

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Speaker 1: and a sack in the NFL. That's why try he's

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Speaker 1: having nightmares about as being asked to come back and play.

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Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs is having nightmares about you being as right.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. That was really good stuff. I love

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Speaker 1: that expertise on all of it. As Joe mentioned off

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Speaker 1: the top, we will have a full contact practice today.

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Speaker 1: It'll be happening right in front of us. Will explain

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Speaker 1: As we continue here full contact practice. UM, we we

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Speaker 1: had some news yesterday, gentlemen, in terms of of just

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Speaker 1: some some as as we kind of put a ribbon

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Speaker 1: on practice from yesterday. Marie Cooper sat down in the

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Speaker 1: end zone briefly and the red zone drills, had that

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Speaker 1: right ankle checked out, got up after a minute and

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Speaker 1: seemed fine. We'll see how that looks today. Um, Michael

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Speaker 1: Woods is having a self at camp. I see here

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Speaker 1: in the notes, mr Z. Yeah, and I actually have

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Speaker 1: notes if we want to go through yesterday's practice of

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Speaker 1: a bunch of I would like that. I like copious notes.

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Speaker 1: We got copious notes. So one thing that people were

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Speaker 1: curious about following the news of the six game suspension

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, what if anything would change with the reps.

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Speaker 1: And what I found is honestly not much. In terms

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback reps, they were split exactly as they

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Speaker 1: have been. We talked about it yesterday in the show

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Speaker 1: that continued in the practice that followed our program that

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Speaker 1: now the offensive line was taking one first team offensive

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Speaker 1: line was basically taking one more rep and they were

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Speaker 1: getting that with Jacoby Brissette, so he was getting some

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Speaker 1: work with the ones. And so the breakdown in a

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Speaker 1: typical twelve play period was for for Deshaun Watson, all

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Speaker 1: with the ones, for for Jacoby Brissette, one with the

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Speaker 1: one offensive line, three with the second team, two more

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson back with the first team, and then

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Speaker 1: two for Josh Dobbs with the third team. They did

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Speaker 1: a couple of sixteen play periods that were actually split

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Speaker 1: four four four four all Watson and all Jacoby Procette.

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Speaker 1: So what stood out to me yesterday defensively, Jadevian Clowney

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Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett are a problem and and the Browns

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Speaker 1: were given James Hudson was getting some first team rep

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Speaker 1: splitting with Chris Hubbard at right tackle, and he struggled

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Speaker 1: with the speed of Jadevian Clowney, and that that was

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Speaker 1: pretty apparent on tape yesterday. Miles Garrett, they continue both

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Speaker 1: of them to be in the backfield, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we hope with your tutelage with Bill Callen

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Speaker 1: with Peters and and going against Miles that that's gonna

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Speaker 1: prepare Jed Wills. It should only get easier for him

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Speaker 1: on Sundays, which is a good thing. I thought. The Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a cool play that they ran actually, and some

501
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Speaker 1: of the stuff they were able to do with DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Watson in terms of r P O. So they had

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Speaker 1: an RPO inside zone handoff to the left. They had

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Speaker 1: Jackein Grant going in an orbit motion, backed him around

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Speaker 1: him to the right that he looked at and they

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Speaker 1: came back and through a tight end screen to the

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Speaker 1: chief back to the left and it was wide open

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Speaker 1: and it was a big play. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: just some of the stuff they were able to do now,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. Um, j okay, everywhere, guy flies

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Speaker 1: the ball. Greedy Williams having a great camp. I talked

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Speaker 1: to Jeff Howard about him actually earlier today. He's having

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Speaker 1: a great camp. He also singled out Greg News and

514
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Speaker 1: he said he is the smartest corner that I've ever

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Speaker 1: been around. Period. He said, he's already calling things out

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Speaker 1: before they happen in ways that you know you'd want

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Speaker 1: to coach to call them out. He's doing great, uh offensively. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Dimitrich and j Caine Grand continue to have good camps.

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Speaker 1: Felton did have a drop yesterday, but also had a

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Speaker 1: couple of nice touchdowns in the red zone period. They

521
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Speaker 1: did a lot of situational work fourth down, third down,

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Speaker 1: and then red zone UM Deshaun Watson's accuracy on full display.

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Speaker 1: He had one to Harrison Bryant that there was a

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Speaker 1: window as big as the football and he had two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns to Amri in the red zone period that were

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Speaker 1: similar in terms of having to fit it in and

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Speaker 1: he did just that. Um Brissette in the first third

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Speaker 1: and fourth down period went four for four all conversions,

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Speaker 1: which was good to see Um. And then you go

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Speaker 1: back to Mike Woods. You mentioned him. He's having a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal camp and he's a guy that you know sixth

532
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Speaker 1: round wasn't super productive at oklahom and he had four

533
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Speaker 1: knerd yards receiving last year in Oklahoma, they had a

534
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Speaker 1: weird quarterback situation though. Last year it started with Spencer Rattler,

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Speaker 1: who a lot of people I was gonna in the

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Speaker 1: first round pick uh, first round pick uh. He he

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Speaker 1: gets off to a rough start. They go to the

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Speaker 1: to the true freshman who comes in Caleb Williams that

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Speaker 1: he ends up after USC, so just a weird year

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Speaker 1: in large there, so that could have what we're saying.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more to that. Here's coach to Fansky now

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Speaker 1: at the podium. Okay, should be a good day of

543
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: work out here will be in pads for the first time, which,

544
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Speaker 1: as you know, is an important next integrating the contact

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Speaker 1: forward to a good practice and making sure that guys

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Speaker 1: continue to practice safe. Uh And I thought they've done

547
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Speaker 1: a nice job of that so far, taking care of

548
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Speaker 1: each other. So it should be a good day of

549
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Speaker 1: of work as it relates to to Sean, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you guys will have questions. I really don't have much

551
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: more to add than what we talked about yesterday. I'll

552
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: just continue to be respectful of this process. But with that,

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Speaker 1: I'll take any questions. Kevin, you said yesterday that you

554
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Speaker 1: would read the report, assuming you have now did any

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Speaker 1: of what Robinson, what you put in that report give

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Speaker 1: you a pause about to sign it, you know, Jake,

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Speaker 1: I did read the report like I told you I would. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll continue to be respectful of Judge Robinson and and

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Speaker 1: her ruling. Uh And I think that's really where my

560
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: focus is. Jus had a lot of trust and jacobem

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Speaker 1: as you've mentioned before, it's not the first time he's

562
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Speaker 1: done this. He's coming the suspension situations. He's been the starter,

563
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: he's been the back up. What is it about his

564
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: disposition that that makes him my ideal for this kind

565
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Speaker 1: of a situation? You're right time, He's been in some

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Speaker 1: different positions already in his young career. Uh he has

567
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: a very good way about him, as I'm sure you

568
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: guys notice just being around him for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Very very intelligent, a very good leader. Um has the

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Speaker 1: ability to to make plays on the practice field, help

571
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Speaker 1: in the in the meeting room, be accountable throughout the

572
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Speaker 1: weight room if you will. He just he does all

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Speaker 1: the all the right things. Now that you have a

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Speaker 1: data process Robinson's ruling, do you have a better idea

575
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Speaker 1: about how you're going to split up the first team

576
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Speaker 1: snaps going forward with the son it's Kobe. Yeah. I

577
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: think we're still kind of Jake in that place where

578
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Speaker 1: we'll we'll wait for more information, we'll stick to the

579
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: plan that we have, which again what we'll deal with

580
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: that day to day. Uh Amary will be out today,

581
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: but he'll be back pretty soon. So he'll be okays

582
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Speaker 1: on the field yesterday, but you expect them to get

583
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: on both bothly Anthony's uh yeah, I think they're both progressing,

584
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: uh and and they're on different timelines, but there we'll

585
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Speaker 1: see him soon, Kevin. Today it's Kobe said it didn't

586
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Speaker 1: matter how many games, you know, he's a pretty bit

587
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Speaker 1: of prepared to get ready. Talk about that mindset. Is

588
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Speaker 1: that the movie you guys kind of follow. Yeah. I think,

589
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, there's uncertainty in our in this game,

590
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: and and oftentimes it's it's injury related. And with that

591
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, you have to be ready to play at

592
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Speaker 1: a moment's notice. And sometimes you have heads up that

593
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be playing, and you get a week's worth

594
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Speaker 1: of practice. Sometimes first quarter you're playing. And that's the

595
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Speaker 1: nature of being a backup quarterback or backup at any position.

596
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Speaker 1: So I think Jacoby's focus continues to be what it

597
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: always is, and that's to prepare himself to play. And

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Speaker 1: that's prepare himself to play, you know, for today in

599
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Speaker 1: this practice, but moving forward, you gotta prepare yourself to

600
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Speaker 1: play in every game. You said you'll have a plan

601
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Speaker 1: for whoever is the why quarterback? Um, But do you

602
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Speaker 1: have an idea how much the plan would change when

603
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Speaker 1: it goes from the shan will be said one more time,

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Speaker 1: like how big you're different will it be? And what

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Speaker 1: you call and what to play Jacoby, you're saying, like

606
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Speaker 1: the game plan in particular, Yeah, I think we're we

607
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: have a pretty good understanding of both of their strengths.

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Speaker 1: And then I think you use training camp in the

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Speaker 1: preseason to solidify that game plan moving forward. But they're

610
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Speaker 1: different players, so certainly you'd run some different places. The

611
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Speaker 1: report of this chemistry in the quarterback group, Yeah, I

612
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Speaker 1: think it's important in every room, Chris, but that quarterback

613
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Speaker 1: room is unique. You're you're talking about a lot of football,

614
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Speaker 1: and you're digging very deep into that rabbit hole of football.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and it really can become graduate level type

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Speaker 1: stuff pretty quickly. So I think when you have a

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Speaker 1: room that that really pushes each other, challenges each other,

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Speaker 1: but also respects each other, I think it's important. Three

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Speaker 1: injuries with that receiver group, How concerning is that? And

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Speaker 1: at some point here are you gonna have to bring

621
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Speaker 1: in bring in some more depth or these injuries minor

622
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Speaker 1: enough that you can continue on the way you have that, Omari,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back soon, so you know we'll deal with

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Speaker 1: David and Anthony appropriate because day have pads. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: keeping everybody's saying, is there a message to the team

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Speaker 1: before ended? And also are there any big changes from

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Speaker 1: the paddy practice to lem uh. Yeah, there's certainly a

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Speaker 1: message to the team and they get that every night

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Speaker 1: at team meetings. But it's really important that we're it's

630
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Speaker 1: Brown's versus Browns, so we have to get our work

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Speaker 1: in and it's a physical game. You can't shy away

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Speaker 1: from that. But now it's not the time to take,

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Speaker 1: you know, a quote unquote cheap shot at at your

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Speaker 1: own teammate. So the pads shouldn't change that that your technique,

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Speaker 1: whether you have pads on or shells on or helmets on,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't change. You should be great posture, You should be

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Speaker 1: using your hands, keeping your head out of it, all

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Speaker 1: those type of things. So those that's what I'll be

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Speaker 1: looking for during this practice and watching the tape to

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Speaker 1: make sure that guys stay true to their technique and

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Speaker 1: their fundamentals. Palles fais. I think the guys understand that

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Speaker 1: we're out here to work, and that's kind of Uh,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that we're what we're here for.

644
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Speaker 1: One of the big differences with Watson person is like

645
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Speaker 1: cots and gives you more as a running quarterback option

646
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Speaker 1: just serious percent doesn't do that as So where does

647
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Speaker 1: that stress? What another part of your offensive? But that

648
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Speaker 1: stress if you don't have that option. Yeah, I think

649
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: it's a good point, Tony. And that's those are the

650
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Speaker 1: conversations we're having. Uh. There are certain plays that you

651
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Speaker 1: would run with the Shawn that you won't run with Jacoby.

652
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: There's certain places that Jacoby sees really well, maybe has

653
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Speaker 1: a lot of reps on that DeShawn doesn't. So that's

654
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: just part of our job as coaches is understanding that

655
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: there's no shortage of as you can run, but it's

656
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: making sure that the players are comfortable run in those places.

657
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: It's important agresses questions about Pasday. Yeah, I understand what

658
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: you're saying. I'm gonna let the Sean speak for himself

659
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Speaker 1: when when it comes to that. But sure of that,

660
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Speaker 1: I don't mutch that speaking. I think he's well, I

661
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: think he'll speak with you at with the media at

662
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Speaker 1: some point when this when there's some closure to this,

663
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Speaker 1: but that's something that I'll let him speak to him

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Speaker 1: strong suits other than his experience. And yeah, one game

665
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Speaker 1: is the three that's pretty good. Uh. I think size,

666
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Speaker 1: arm strength decision making would be a few protecting the

667
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: ball decision making to me, that falls in her decision

668
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Speaker 1: making with the maris the ankle yesterday. Yes. And Josh Rosen,

669
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Speaker 1: I have not seen him take any rents with the

670
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Speaker 1: team yet. Um, it's a hard for him to compete

671
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: with he's not getting he will, I think starting today

672
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: he will. We have to get all these guys ready appropriately.

673
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen just got here, so and as you know,

674
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: there's not a thousand reps to go around. You gotta

675
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: be real smart about how you do this. So the

676
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: reps are coming, but we're taking the long view in

677
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: terms of the next couple of weeks with those guys

678
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: and getting them ready. When you did Jacoby skill set,

679
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: heres what he's been able to do in his career,

680
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Speaker 1: especially to do three years ago when Nuture Luckholm runtly

681
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: retired and many coming and thrust it in that position,

682
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Speaker 1: would you guys evaluated and potential backgups back in the spring,

683
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Speaker 1: He's that particular example something that came to your guys

684
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Speaker 1: into the evaluation totality of yeah, it really was. The

685
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: totality just felt like it was a young player, still

686
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: a young young man for how many hats he's worn

687
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: in his career, but a young player that we thought

688
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: was talented, that we felt would add a lot to

689
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: our room with his injuries done with it, and as

690
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: young guys, Yeah, I've been really impressed with with a

691
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: lot of those young guys, Jeff and I think they

692
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: work really, really hard, and when you play for coach

693
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Speaker 1: O Show, you better work hard. So we also got

694
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Speaker 1: a head start with them, bringing them in a few

695
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: days early. So I'd say I wouldn't single any guy

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Speaker 1: out other than to say it's an impressive young group. Yeah,

697
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: that spot to Shawn Seasons or clubs massage therapist and

698
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Speaker 1: club group therapist, seems like a kind of little team.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that's happening that. Yeah, I think I'll let

700
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Speaker 1: Andrew Barry speak to that at the appropriate time, but

701
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: certainly with that ruling from Judge Robinson, that's obviously something

702
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: that we'd abide by. And I was speaking with Josh

703
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: Shocks today about quarterback Keaton's is and how important it

704
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: is as bad. That's to mimic it perfectly to help

705
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. If you mention that you guys recorded

706
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: in the home, it's in the kind of review it

707
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: almost like a film study of playing it back and

708
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: making sure everybody sounds the same. Is that something new

709
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: this year? Have you kind of always done that as

710
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: in Pineer coaching group where I've done it and my yes,

711
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: I've we did it previously at the vikings. It's just

712
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: it's important. What you don't want is the backup gets

713
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Speaker 1: in there with the offensive line and they're not used

714
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Speaker 1: to that cadence because it may seem like a small thing,

715
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Speaker 1: but you want everybody to get off at the same

716
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Speaker 1: exact time. You don't want to popcorn get off, which

717
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Speaker 1: a VP calls it when one guy is getting off

718
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: and the next guy and the next guy. So the

719
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: way we've always done it is the backups are it's

720
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: their job to mimic the starter and to mimic the

721
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: uh the spacing in between the cadences so that you

722
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: don't really surprise the offensive line. So being able to

723
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: record it and then sync it up with the video

724
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: allows us every day to look at it and make

725
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: sure that those guys are doing their job. He's doing well.

726
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: There he is. I can see him right there. Uh

727
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's doing a nice job. He's working hard,

728
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: had a good day yesterday, and he's Uh, kid's got

729
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: the right temperament. He just goes about his work, goes

730
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: about his business. Okay, all right, thanks guys, thank you.

731
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Speaker 1: It's worthy thing coming out of there with the Marii

732
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Speaker 1: Cooper that the memory will be down today, but Coach

733
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: made it seemed like it'd be pretty quickie deep back

734
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Speaker 1: into pold as soon as potentially tomorrow. Uh So that

735
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: was kind of something we were waiting on. Yeah. The

736
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: thing that's tough about that though, is it's now it's

737
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: a cumulative effect. You if we were walking, you know,

738
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: this was day one of camp and everybody were healthy,

739
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: you would say top four receivers for the Browns or

740
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Donovan, People's Jones, David Bell, and Anthony Schwartz.

741
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: It is likely the Bell still on the pup list.

742
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see Anthony Schwartz today. So you

743
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: will be without three of those top four guys and

744
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to get good working in the past in

745
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Game four Deshaun Watson and for Jacoby Brissett and and

746
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: now you won't have those guys. We mentioned Mike Woods

747
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: how he has stepped up, Demetric Felton has taken advantagees opportunities.

748
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: But you know, Woods is the guy. He's got the

749
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: size right, he's six too, He's a long strideer, He's

750
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: able to create separation. I actually talked with Chatosha earlier

751
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: today about him after watching yesterday's practice, and he said,

752
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's just got a great place house and

753
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: he plays faster, uh than his time speed. He's catching

754
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: the ball very well and frankly, he's making the most

755
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: of his opportunities. And now with the pads coming on,

756
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: that's something you want to see if that continues. And

757
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: they're also very impressed with the fact that he's mastered

758
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the playbook and that nothing is too big for him,

759
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and that's a really important thing obviously, especially you know

760
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: now he's probably gonna be asked to play multiple positions

761
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: today with the injuries. But you know, our our first

762
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: three receivers out could be dp J Woods and Dimitrich

763
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Felton or Jachem Grant, which is not what you expected

764
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: it to be. And again you know you're down those

765
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: guys Javon Wims, who has some size, who started seven

766
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: games in the league with the Bears. You know he

767
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: is out with an illness. So that's it's a wide

768
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: receiver room. That is it was probably the biggest question

769
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: mark room on offense coming into this and it's already

770
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: a question mark now. And you wonder how long do

771
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: you wait before you say, do we need to get

772
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: somebody in here? Because what you've seen has been good.

773
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: Though I've always been great. DPJ has been great. We

774
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: haven't seen Belly was very good in the spring. Um,

775
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen Schwartz in this period. But would

776
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: just stepping up Felt and stepping up, Grant stepping up.

777
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: It's still tough though. Yeah, you need guys to run routes.

778
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: You got one on ones. You need guys to give

779
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: the DBS good work and good looks. And that comes

780
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: from having your best players out there and Iron Sharpen

781
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: and Iron and unfortunately that won't happen today on the

782
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: first day of PATS. Yeah, it's certain to stack right position.

783
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot early on here, uh and Joe with

784
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: that to to Nathan's point, though, comes great opportunity for

785
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: some of these younger guys. You want to I mean,

786
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be a tough roster to make,

787
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna be playing with the ones receiver

788
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: catch pass from de Shaun Watson today. You know, it's

789
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: a great opportunity now for those other guys to make

790
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: a big impression, not only on the coaching staff, but

791
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks, the guys that are gonna be throwing

792
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: the football. All of a sudden, you make a couple

793
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: of good plays and you're on the same page with

794
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: Watson and Brissette. And he goes back and he's sitting

795
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: in the meeting room with Kevin Stefanski. He goes, man,

796
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I was just on the same page with this guy

797
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: all day, Like him and I were both thinking the

798
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: same thing. We were seeing the same thing out there,

799
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, Kevin's like, hey, man, maybe

800
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: we should give him some more reps even when I'm right,

801
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: does come back, even when some of these other guys

802
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: are out there practicing. Let's see what he does when

803
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: he's out there and give him more opportunities. And so

804
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: that's a lot of times the stories that you get

805
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: in training camp because every training camp that I've ever

806
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: been around, the ones that I played in now just

807
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: the ones that I've covered, injuries are always a big

808
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: story because they always happen no matter what type of

809
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: the training camp you have, whether it's a powder puff

810
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: or an Eric Mangini two a day, three hours per

811
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: practice beat down session, You're just gonna have injuries. It's

812
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: just part of the game. And it seems like that

813
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: receiver room is always the one that accumulates injuries earlier

814
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: on in camp because those are the guys that do

815
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: the most high speed sprinting. They're the guys that have

816
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: the hamstrings that just tweak a little bit, and they're

817
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: the they're the race horses, right They're the guys that

818
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: they have to be at to be able to effectively

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Speaker 1: do their jobs, unlike the big hog mollies like myself

820
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: and some of those guys out there. Hey, if we're

821
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: as long as we're hitting our techniques, we can go

822
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: out and put in a good practice and it's okay

823
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: that we're not able to run our five oh forty

824
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: that we ran on the combine day, because that's just

825
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: not something you see on the field out there in

826
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Speaker 1: real live football. I see the great We've spent all

827
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Speaker 1: this time talking about the news day with our team.

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Speaker 1: There's enormous news in the NFL today as well. In

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Speaker 1: re card to the Miami Dolphins, will get Steve's view

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Speaker 1: of that and and of course the news of yesterday

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Speaker 1: that changes lives. Steve, this, uh, the news of the

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Speaker 1: day in the NFL. This this this thing out of Miami,

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Speaker 1: pretty big man. I know you've been doing it all morning. Um,

849
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: we've been talking about everything that's going on abound around here.

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Speaker 1: Just from from your perspective, what the NFL did today

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Speaker 1: to Stephen Ross and Dolphins and the Dolphins. Yeah, there's

852
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things to to unpack here. But the

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Speaker 1: first off, the league has been really hammered for not

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: coming down on owners as it does on players. Right.

855
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: This is you know, look was it last year the

856
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: fine they gave to Daniel Snydern't you your wife can

857
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: run the team. People are like police for all of

858
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: the you know, alleged transgressions. That's nothing. Well, this to

859
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross, where they're taking away a first round draft

860
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: pick and a third round draft pick for tampering, which

861
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: clearly everybody co operated on because I have all the

862
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: evidence saying that he elicitly spoke to Sean Payton to

863
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: be his coach AND's for Tom Brady to be a

864
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: player and potential executive without getting permission from their teams

865
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: doing it front chanel instead the back channel. As I

866
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: said on air, that's akin back to the day of

867
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: the football coach going and paying the recruit instead of

868
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: having the bag man. All right, so beautiful. So so

869
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean that that's what it is. Now. They didn't

870
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: get it for tampering, you know. Brian Flora said, look,

871
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, he said he'd offer me a hundred thousand

872
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: dollars for I mean, I'm sorry for taking a hundred

873
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for every loss so we can increase our

874
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: draft position. But they said that conversation happened, but they

875
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: said that Steven Ross said it in jest, and so

876
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: you know. Still, but here's here's where the punishment of

877
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: the first and third round draft picks are the offensive

878
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: two first round draft picks. But supposed things don't work

879
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: out for two of this year when they have all

880
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: this talent, are they do they have anough freight to

881
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: get back to the top end of the first round

882
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: now to get a high draft pick. They I think

883
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: they've got two second round picks and two and and

884
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: now one first round pick. Maybe that's a maybe. Now

885
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: so instead of hey saying, hey, the salary cap space,

886
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna resign someone else, we've got to go on

887
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: the free agent mark market and get one of these

888
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you might become available. So that's where it could

889
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: be damaging. And who does that impact most? As impact

890
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: Steven Rost the most? No, if that could affect the players,

891
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: the coaches, and the team the most. And that's the

892
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: unfair part about how this could all play out. Two

893
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: has a great year, they don't have to worry about

894
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: that part so much. But I mean, the fact that

895
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: the league finally said we're going to crack down on

896
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: an owner at least shows you know, cynical public that. Okay,

897
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: they do have some spine to police their own in

898
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: light of everything else that's going on. Is this timing coincidental?

899
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Is it well, what do you think about that it's

900
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: coincidental on the part of Okay, let's get this side

901
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: of the way before we get to these preseason games,

902
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: which Thursday up and kent at the Pro Football Hall

903
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: of Fame where he headed shortly. But there's all you know,

904
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: there's always laundry that's gonna be washed. Now, I think

905
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: to the point of your question is to move the

906
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: needle off of Cleveland to Miami. I don't think you

907
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: know they're gonna say, hey, Cleveland getting banged up, and

908
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: this is Shawn Watson, thanks and banged up. Let's go

909
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: ahead and move it down to Miami so people will

910
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: stop talking about the Brons because people aren't. I mean,

911
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: this is this is an issue that strikes at a

912
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of nerves other than football, So people are going

913
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: to continue to talk about this no matter what. So

914
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it necessarily was a league saying okay, boy,

915
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: let's let's get the Browns off the new cycle. Let's

916
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: take it down to Miami. I don't think you know

917
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: that that's part of the play. But from I met

918
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: it more from the standpoint of that was one of

919
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: the big the talking points, right is that players were

920
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: not getting punished like y oh here watch now we're

921
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna go punish. So so here's here's a here's a

922
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: great point though, Okay, So and Sue Robinson's discipline of

923
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, who's game suspension, she said part of her

924
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: factory was he he seemed to show no remorse throughout

925
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: this process. And Stephen Ross's response to his statement to

926
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: the punishment. The first thing he does is come out

927
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: and talk stuff on Brian Flores saying we were cleared

928
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: of his defamatory remarks and this and that about tanking. No,

929
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: they admitted that you said it, but the fact that

930
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: that's the first that that's what you lead with, instead

931
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: of saying, I apologize to our fans for losing the

932
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: draft and possibly no remorse, no remorse, no acceptance of responsibility,

933
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: when again they clearly had people on the inside cooperating

934
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: who confirmed that he had these conversations with Tom Brady,

935
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton and that he offered prime for is

936
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: a hundred tho dollars to lose ball games. It's a

937
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: remarkable thing, guys, that Brady was trying to orchestrate to

938
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: like the greatest player of all time, the retirement a

939
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: ruse to back channel Miami. It doesn't on the back channel.

940
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: But here's where there's a little bit of a wet

941
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: blanket on that they said these conversations started in You know, look,

942
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: we all know there's back channel conversations all the time.

943
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: And Stephen Ross may have a legit argument, and hey,

944
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: him and Tom Brady are both Michigan along they do

945
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: a lot of things together. So these conversations happened. Look,

946
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I covered the NBA for years, pat Riley was talking

947
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: to everybody, Hey, sure you don't want to come? Hey Lebron,

948
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, hey hey La Charles S. Freewell, he sure

949
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: you want to? Okay, just joking, so you know that's that.

950
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: But you know Roger Goodell statement saying they've never seen

951
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: such a flouting of these principles and rules like they've

952
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: seen in this case. Again it is it is SMU

953
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: where the head football coach gave Eric Dickers excuse me,

954
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: gave a player the money and not the bag man.

955
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. And you're right with the back. I mean,

956
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: you go to the Combine and Indie any place you

957
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: walk into that all that's happening four days conversations, a

958
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of shadows, Joe, you never had

959
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: any of those? Did you need to get out of

960
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: the whole time? Now I'm talking about Wisconsin? You know

961
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: usc you yeah, that nobody wanted the offensive lineman from

962
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: Wisconsin who was two pounds as a senior in high

963
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: schooler their loss. See we um we obviously the news.

964
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: The other news the week, obviously is the suspension of

965
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun sure Um. We're now on a timetable now of

966
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: will the league appeal? Um, we kind of laid out

967
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time on this yesterday, We

968
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on this for the past

969
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: few months. Um. Where the how this is such a

970
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: tricky play for the NFL here with president with process

971
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: of basically telling a federal judge, actually, we know better

972
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: than you. Um. And by the way, she did rule

973
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: in their favor pretty strongly in the NFL's favor. People

974
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: might not like the length of the suspension, but in

975
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: terms of what she found, she ruled in their favor.

976
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: What do you think this goes from here? Oh? Look,

977
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: I've got no inside science on it, but I would

978
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: expect the NFL to appeal, just because for the longest

979
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: they've been saying they've wanted him out for at least

980
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: a season, and you know, they want to show, after

981
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: the debaqua that was how the league handled ray Rice,

982
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: that they're serious about anything involving women, whether domestic violence,

983
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, sexual misconduct, whatever, They want to show it serious.

984
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: So I do think that they will appeal this now. Well,

985
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: they say we want to add six more games, do

986
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: we want to add one and find him ten million? Dollars. Remember,

987
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: there was no financial penalty with Sue Robinson's initial discipline,

988
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: so that could determine as to whether the union steps

989
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: up and says, hey, no, no, no, we're gonna take

990
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: this into federal court, which is, as you said, potentially

991
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: tricky because even though in the appeal it is not

992
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: about new evidence, new findings, and it's about the process

993
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: of house Robinson came to her findings, if it gets

994
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: into federal court and they're disputing stuff, you better believe

995
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: that these lawyers for the nfl p A, who are

996
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: very good or going to bring up some of the

997
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: owner behavior and things like that, even if it doesn't

998
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: necessarily affect the decision, they can say it's relatable and

999
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and there could be some potential shaming

1000
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: that nobody wants out there. So again, I think it

1001
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: just based on past situations, the league will appeal this.

1002
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: It just any of the the additional discipline I think

1003
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: will be We will show is this something that could

1004
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: be settled after any potential additional discipline, or are we

1005
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: taking this to federal court, which in case they'll put

1006
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: in you know, and in junctions. Okay, de Sauna Okay, well,

1007
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play until you rule on this, and maybe

1008
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't end to mid season or the end of

1009
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: the season. Like I said in twenty seven, Ezekiel Elliott

1010
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: went through this played the first eight games in the

1011
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: regular season before his six games suspension kicked in. So

1012
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: those are all factors that are implying there's a handful

1013
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: of owners that perceivably have the most amount of influence

1014
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: over Roger Goodell and the league matters. And a few

1015
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: of those owners are ones that have been marred and

1016
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: similar type allegations and issues. And so how much do

1017
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: you think Roger Goodell right now is putting weight into

1018
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: what they're telling him about, Hey, maybe we should just

1019
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: let this go away. We've set up this process so

1020
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: that we have some space between this decision and what

1021
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: we have put out there to the public what we want,

1022
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: which would be a one or more your suspension. But

1023
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: because this impartial judge made this decision, we can just

1024
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: stand behind that and then move on because we don't

1025
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: want any of our dirty laundry being aired in the

1026
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: public anymore than it already had. That's if it goes

1027
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: to a lawsuit in the court, that's That's such a

1028
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: great point because, like you said, there are some owners

1029
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: with influence whose names have been mentioned with you know,

1030
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: certain things. So I don't know if they even need

1031
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: to say anything to Roger Goodell, you know, or make

1032
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: a phone call. This could be something where hey, let's

1033
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: just protect the league here. I'm not the judge jury

1034
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: and execution anymore. That being Roger Goodell, we did have

1035
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: a neutraally designed arbiter make this decision. That is our call.

1036
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: We're going to respect because the NFL p a Alread

1037
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: came out and said they're going to respect it. So

1038
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: is that the process that was collectively of bargain. The

1039
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: NFL still has, you know, that appeal hammer where Roger

1040
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: Goodell could be the appellate officer. I think if they

1041
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: do appeal, he'll have a desert need do that again.

1042
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: I think he'll stay out of something like this. But

1043
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell, but just based on pression, I

1044
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: think the NFL, you know, they're not afraid of Corpo.

1045
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: That's Thursday, nine am, right, yes, tomorrow at nine am

1046
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: on that wow, two days, two days which will be again. Yeah,

1047
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, my calories, my calories when the game start,

1048
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: I know in two days, well, right, and that's the thing.

1049
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: That morning is the morning of the Hall of Fame game,

1050
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: the official kick off to the season, and so it does.

1051
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: It's a it's a wild thing. I think tricky is

1052
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: a very good word for it is a very difficult

1053
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: to negotiate situation, and I think everybody just wants it

1054
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: whatever it is to be able. I'm just curious, going

1055
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: back to the original, and I don't know if you

1056
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: remember this, or maybe you from talking to j C.

1057
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: Why did both sides agree to the appeal part? After

1058
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get an independent arbitrator and everybody's gonna

1059
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: agree on it, why would anybody want to have the

1060
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: right to appeal that if it was the same on

1061
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: both sides. Well, I mean, I think again, it's just

1062
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: like in our court system. If somebody comes in, they're

1063
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: represented by a lawyer who they feel didn't represent them

1064
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: at equickly, they are the right to appeal again, maybe

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00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: not new evidence, but the way that they were represent

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00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: or if they find that the way information was distributed

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00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: or gathered or something like that, they have the right

1068
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: to appeal it because they neglected certain things. So you

1069
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: always want to have that appellate hammer and and so

1070
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: or that appellate option. I should say so, I think,

1071
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: because look, this could work the other way, or supposed

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00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: the league came out or she came out and said,

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00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: we're taking into full season. Well, you don't think the

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00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: players Union is gonna say no, no no, that's too much.

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00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: We're going to appeal and see if we can get

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00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: this brought down to at least half that. So again,

1077
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: it's just that the door is swinging a certain way

1078
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: as opposed. I think if the NFL does decide to appeal, though,

1079
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: that sets up a battle for the next c b

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00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: A with the NFL Players Association saying, we're okay with

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00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: an appeals process, but the idea of appealing to the

1082
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: person that works for the league that is essentially saying

1083
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: this should be a greater suspension or a greater fine

1084
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, is not an appeal process that

1085
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: is fair and unbiased like we want. However, it did

1086
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: come out of the process where Roger Goodell was the

1087
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: judge during the next situation, so the ball got moved

1088
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it didn't get moved all the

1089
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: way to complete fairness in the appeals process. So remember this,

1090
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: if it's a designe or whomever, they can lessen the punishment.

1091
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: We've seen even when players they get suspended for four games,

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00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: we've seen, you know, an appellate person come in and say,

1093
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: I think Derrick Brooks is want to peel off for

1094
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: the league and lessen the suspension. I don't think that

1095
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: would be the case here. Especially Roxtre Candell could be

1096
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: that guy, and they've been claiming they want it for

1097
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: a year, and I don't think his designe is gonna

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: be someone. They're gonna say, hey, let's give it to

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: own body who may cut the discipline. But you know

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, the cb A. Look, the NFL,

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00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: p A and NFL have to have something to fight

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00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: about you right now, that's right. So there you go.

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00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: The lawyers need to build some hours. That's right. Lawyer,

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Speaker 1: A great pleasure to talk to you, sir, Thanks for

1105
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: your time today. Appreciate you guys. A great friend of

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00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: the program. H NFL Network joining us. You listen to

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00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily Ones and Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily ESPN

1108
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland al Right, second hour here on a Tuesday edition

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00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: of the program. Lots of news around the National Football League.

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00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: The news for us right here at the Cross Country

1111
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Mortgage Campus is that the Cleveland Browns are out on

1112
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,479
Speaker 1: the field in full pads. And the group in front

1113
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: of us right here Mr. Ziggura and Mr Hoff includes

1114
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: many luminaries for the future of this football team. Who

1115
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: are who are sitting this one out? Yeah, it does well.

1116
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: Currently on the pup list, you've got Denzel Ward, Anthony

1117
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: Walker Jr. And Sheldon Day who are on the bikes

1118
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: right now, and then some of the notables, and I

1119
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: imagine for Jack Conklin as he was eased back in

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: activated from the pup he's on the sideline. And then

1121
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: two of the notables Ja Devian Clowney, who's by the way,

1122
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: been dominance in the early portion of camp. They know

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00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: what they've got. We don't need to. He's getting a

1124
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: little HOLF treatment right now, which is there's nothing wrong

1125
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: with that. And then you got Anthony Schwartz battle his

1126
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: way back as well. And I think Amari Cooper, who

1127
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: we've talked about was down with that ankle injury. What

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00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: do you what's and going back to your days, he

1129
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: got a veteran like Jadevian Clowney. You want him ready

1130
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: for the regular season period. He's had a great showing

1131
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: so far. You want do you want to work with

1132
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: the veterans? Is that something that you think is a

1133
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: smart idea, just to make sure that the guys that

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: you know are the guys you know who they are,

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00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: that they're ready for the games, not necessarily for training camp.

1136
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: You mean from a coaching standpoint, and just from a

1137
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: from a wear and tear, from a from a use

1138
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: a utilization stand point. I think that's one of the

1139
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: benefits of having the same coaching staff year and in

1140
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: year out and having a lot of the same faces,

1141
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: is because you build that trust that player coach relationship.

1142
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: That becomes a bond where you can talk to a

1143
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: guy and you trust if he's telling you, like, hey,

1144
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: my body doesn't feel right today, I think I need

1145
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: to take this one off and maybe come out tomorrow

1146
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: where maybe it was reversed on the plan, like whatever.

1147
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: It is like working with those players knowing that you

1148
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: can trust what they're telling you and it's not just

1149
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: b s where they're just trying to, you know, shirk

1150
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: their responsibilities because they don't want to practice because it's

1151
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: too hot. Or whatever. So I think building that relationship

1152
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: is key, and that's one of the big benefits I

1153
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: see of Kevin Stefanski as a coach is he's done

1154
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: a really good job forging those bonds with all the

1155
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: players on the team and and the guys that are

1156
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: here from year to year to be able to have

1157
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: that trust, to be able to have them come to

1158
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: him and say, hey, you know what I think today,

1159
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: I just need to take a day off. I don't

1160
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: feel right. I don't want to hurt myself, I don't

1161
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: want to put the team in jeopardy. I know my plan.

1162
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: And from a coaching stand when he knows, this guy

1163
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: knows what it takes to get himself ready to be

1164
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: at his best when the first game of the season comes.

1165
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: And now, granted, you still want to have those guys

1166
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: out there even if they know how to get themselves ready,

1167
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: because their presence helps get the guys around them ready

1168
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: and starts building that camaraderie and that coordination that you

1169
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: have to have amongst units. So there is a benefit

1170
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: even outside of just getting yourself ready when you're out there,

1171
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: because you're helping the guys around you as well. Yeah,

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00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: no doubt I would imagine I'm guessing this was a

1173
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: pre planned already day off for him, that they just

1174
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: kind of have their way they're gonna go about it. Oh,

1175
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: mon Frere, how are you good? To see you? That's right,

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00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: Moll Pedmant's cousin in attendance. I love it, Love to

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: see it, love to see it. Like we gotta get

1178
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: this is you're not you're only on camera those no

1179
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: bids safe. It's safe, safe army visiting with his presence.

1180
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: But you're right about about Connie. You know, even going

1181
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: back to earlier on in his career, he's had he's

1182
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: had a knee injury with some wear and teary issues,

1183
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: and so for a guy like that, it was a

1184
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: lot like me in my career. We knew that, you know,

1185
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: you only have so much cartilage in your knee, and

1186
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: that cartilage only lasts so long before it gets very

1187
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: angry during a season, and if the swelling becomes so

1188
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: great that even draining it and putting medicine in there

1189
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: can't reduce it, and you can't play and you have

1190
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: to sit right. So you have to gauge, like how

1191
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: much is in that tank? Referring to the knee during

1192
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: the season that we want to push as much as

1193
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: we can now, but we want to make sure we

1194
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: got everything left in the tank so that the tank

1195
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: runs dry after the very last game of the season,

1196
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: not somewhere in the middle. In your career here, there

1197
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: were times where you were given coaches were giving you

1198
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: the days off and stuff like that, and people would

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Speaker 1: I felt like there was a lot of criticism about it.

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00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Then you go out and play a great season. It's like,

1201
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: did you ever as a player, do you even think

1202
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: about that or hear that or get mad at that?

1203
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: Or were there times where they said, you know you're

1204
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: off today, you know, have practicing and you're like, oh,

1205
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: I want to practice. How does that go? And how

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: do you kind of like think through me? And I

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01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's bothered by it at all. That was

1208
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: probably annoyed that he's doing all of these things. Well,

1209
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: they don't make it walk in the park for the

1210
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: guys that are practicing, like they're over here riding the AirBike,

1211
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: which is among the most miserable things you can possibly do,

1212
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: and it's not in a air conditioned tent where we're

1213
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: sitting here in the sauna. They're out there in the

1214
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: blazing hot sun. They're doing the AirBike. They're doing it

1215
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: like it's very painful what they're doing. So it's not like, uh,

1216
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: they're getting off easy. But to your point, the people

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: that gave me the most crap were my linemates, right,

1218
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: And so even though the Tony grows ease and some

1219
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: of the guys in the local media, there was definitely

1220
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: some jealousy because I got to golf more than him

1221
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: during training camp, and so it bothered him, and he

1222
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: him and some other people tried to frame it as

1223
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: if I was getting days off because I was tired. No,

1224
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: it was because I had a really bad left knee

1225
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: and I had knee surgery after every season to clean

1226
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: it up and I still do. I mean, it's one

1227
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: of it's the reason I retired UM. And so we

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: had this plan from the beginning of O T A

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: S where I would work with the doctors and the

1230
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: trainers to try to like I just mentioned with gitevian Is,

1231
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: we knew that this knee only had so much beatings

1232
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: that it could take during the season before I just

1233
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: had to get shut down because it would swell up

1234
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: so much that even after draining you know, a hundred

1235
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: c SSON fluid. You still couldn't bend it, you know.

1236
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: So so you had to figure out, all right, where

1237
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: do we want to use these when it matters one

1238
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: thousand reps? Right? Do we want to use them in

1239
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: training camp? Sure? You could use eight hundred reps in

1240
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: training camp and then get to the second game of

1241
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: the season and then you're done the rest of the season. Right,

1242
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: So about I want to say a year eight or

1243
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: nine when the knee started getting worse and worse, was

1244
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: when he kind of came up with that that game plan,

1245
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: like all right here, and I worked with them. I said, hey,

1246
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: these are the number of practices that I think I

1247
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: need to be able to get myself ready. Granted, I

1248
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: would much rather be out there practicing having laughs since

1249
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: playing slapass with my buddies out there Joel Betonio, J. C.

1250
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: Trudder and Alex Max rather than over here doing the AirBike.

1251
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: But it was just not the reality of your situation

1252
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: when your body is getting banged up later in your

1253
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: career and you try to be smart about it because

1254
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: it's much better to waste your snaps during the games

1255
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: on Sundays that it is to waste him during training

1256
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: camp when they're meaningless, we're talking about practice, we are

1257
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: talking about practice and that. And the reason that it's

1258
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: it's because it is it's different I think for a

1259
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: guy in their first or second year of course, and

1260
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: it is like there is a trust that has been built.

1261
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: They know who you are as in person. They know

1262
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: that you are going to show up on Sunday and

1263
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: dotenate and you don't need all of this to do it.

1264
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: And so the notion and I it's such a tired

1265
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: thing that I see all the time of that. It's

1266
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: something that every it's like such a crutch that people

1267
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: don't do to talk about, Oh he's on this, he's

1268
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: on this. You don't think Number ninety over there knows

1269
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: what it takes. It's one thing if you get to

1270
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Sunday and he's done know how to play, you're not

1271
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna forget out to play football. Right knows what it

1272
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: takes to be ready for Sundays. And and for me,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. I'm a big swimmer now and that's actually

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01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: where I not that I learned to swim, but I

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01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: learned to swim as exercise because I knew how to

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01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: swim to survive, but swim for exercise because my knee

1277
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: was so bad my last two years really that I

1278
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: couldn't even do the bike to get myself ready. So

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01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: I had to get in the pool and swim laps.

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01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: That was the only exercise I could get to build

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: because it's literally no impact and there's really no bend

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: in your knee um in order to get my cardiovascular

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: shape up to be able to play in an NFL game.

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01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: So I was actually doing the swimming to try to

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01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: get in shape for a football season because I couldn't.

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01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: My knee was so bad. I couldn't even do the

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01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: skier or the bike. I couldn't even stand around at

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: practice because of the impact on that cartilage. By the way,

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Speaker 1: and the summer work out, a lot of the cardio

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01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: at the end is oh yeah, go swim thirty laps,

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Speaker 1: and which I was a swimmer. I was a competitive

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01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: swimmer for a long time, but now as a man

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01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: in my forties, like going in there and just trying

1294
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: to go thirty straight laps is it's a great workout,

1295
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: is a good work it's you versus drowning, you know.

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01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: Mike Patton always used to say it's you versus your

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01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 1: great cheap But one thing I love about swimming, there's

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: no option to fail. It's you versus the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the pool. Joe, what is? What is? This is our

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: first day that teams out here, getting loose, so getting

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01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: ready to go, going through some positional stuff, first day

1302
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: in pads, the way we go. A lot of anxiousness, right.

1303
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: I always think when I when I was getting ready

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: for a training camp, the two periods that I was

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: the most nervous and anxious for was the conditioning test,

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: because you knew you were gonna pass, But there was

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01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: that little part of you, like what happens if my

1308
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: groin gets tied or my hamstring gets tired, And then

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01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: the cascading thoughts in your head of well, now the

1310
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: coach is gonna think I didn't put in my work

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01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: in the summer. Now my teammates are gonna feel like

1312
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: I was just being a lazy you know, you know what,

1313
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: and I was mailing it in all summer and I'm

1314
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: not ready for the season. Of course. Uh what Mike Petton?

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01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh No, I think it was Petton. He ended up

1316
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: bringing the media out for the FIRS test. If you

1317
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: guys remember that. So now not what you're doing humiliated

1318
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: in front of your peers and your coaches and the

1319
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: scouts upstairs the ownership, but now you got the media's

1320
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: out there taking pictures of you if you fail. So

1321
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: there was always a lot of trepidation regarding the conditioning test,

1322
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: But the second one that brought the most trepidation was

1323
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: the first day in pads, because it's the first day

1324
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: you're really testing your conditioning. It's the first day you're

1325
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: smashing skulls and you're getting back on the bike and

1326
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: you're riding. Because it's a different game when there's blood,

1327
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: sweat and shoulder pads on the line than there is

1328
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: when you're just wearing helmets and there's no risk, there's

1329
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: no downside if you don't do your job. I love it,

1330
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: and I think I made this analogy before, but I

1331
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: love it. I think everybody that had to go against

1332
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: you in a one on one was a lot more

1333
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: nervous about the first day of padded practice and than

1334
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: you were. He's like, and it's like Seinfeld, you watched

1335
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: that documentary comedian and he was My funny is it's funny.

1336
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm even funny anymore that can failed.

1337
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: I can go out there and bomber. They are not

1338
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: laughing any of mins like you're Jerry Seinfeld, You're the

1339
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: hoth Get the pads and let me embarrass some people

1340
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: and go about my business. Get back in the pools,

1341
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: the doubts, the fuel though, you have to have all

1342
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: the great stalked some some of the other people that

1343
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: I worked with in media that didn't play football um

1344
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: and shared some of those experiences, and and it's almost

1345
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: a relief when I tell them that. They're like, because

1346
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: it's you ten Pro Bowls and you still had that.

1347
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah. But by the time I

1348
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: was in year eight, nine and ten, I learned to

1349
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: appreciate that because that's what fueled me and gave me

1350
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: the energy to prepare and to go do the long

1351
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: hours and the things that maybe the guy that's already

1352
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: done it a few times isn't doing and then he's

1353
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: not able to maintain it right. And and I was

1354
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: say too, like when I would get nervous before game,

1355
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: I actually liked that because that nervousness was able to

1356
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: transition and morph into energy and focus when the ball

1357
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: got snapped and when the game was kicked off, whereas

1358
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, if you don't have that, it's

1359
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: difficult to have that energy. And that told us that

1360
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: you need to be able to get up huff Jordan's

1361
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: manufactured it. But the clear blue sky doubt, he made

1362
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: it seem like people thought he wasn't great when he

1363
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: was universally as the greatest end Like, oh, no, one

1364
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: thinks I'm good. What Yeah, he still flew into his

1365
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame induction to tell remember when you know,

1366
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: I actually didn't do that. Actually, we all thought you

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: were the best ever for the probably year three when

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: you disrespected me, Brian Russell, No, no, I don't. I

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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: don't remember that way at all, quite correctly. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Pricett was available earlier today. We will have that

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Speaker 1: for you and continue. You said some sites and and

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01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: and sounds of camp here as the guys are out

1373
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: here in full pads. Here's just a little side note.

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01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: Grant Delpitt continues to be the coolest you can look

1375
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: in a uniform. He just contains. Just listen. They you

1376
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: heard John Johnson called him the glue in that safe.

1377
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: They think he is going to be a star this year.

1378
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: And that would be that will be the biggest feather

1379
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: in our draft caps ever the grant delput when we

1380
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: lost our mind, that would be so much fun. You're

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: let's sack in the zoom days. Let's to clean the

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Speaker 1: We have eleven on eleven here we get the CCMC. Yeah,

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how this is played out

1403
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: right now, but we've got eleven on eleven with Jadevion

1404
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: Clowney out. Alex Right, our third round pick is in

1405
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: that starting lineup opposite Miles Garrett at the defensive end position.

1406
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: We know that there's no Denzel Ward A. J. Green

1407
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: is out there with m. J Emerson at one corner,

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom and the other side, and Nick Chubb doing

1409
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: what Nick Chubb does looks like he is shot out

1410
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: of it. He looks like, I know it's crazy because

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: he does this every year. It seems like he's on

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: almost another level this year early in camp he's so

1413
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: shot out of a and every time I see him

1414
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: do something, it's like that. So the play that got

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01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: your attention yesterday, I was watching the tape and it

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: almost looked like because you know that the cameras they

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: used to shoot the All twenty two are not necessarily

1418
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: it's not like high deaf, so sometimes they kind of

1419
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: look like they skipper blur out, and he was blurring

1420
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: out over the line because it felt like he was

1421
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: moving so fast. We see a little misdirection and then

1422
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: a little dumped down to Kareem Hunt too against so

1423
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: valuable almost a hunter total yards a game and a

1424
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: touchdown in those first six last year, and the Browns

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01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: really felt, you know, his absence, and now he's healthy

1426
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: and he's back, and we were talking about injuries earlier.

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: On the offense, no tight ends have missed any time,

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01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: No running backs have missed any time. No offensive linemen

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01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: other than Jack Conklind, who's a head of schedule. Off

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: of the puppet misstime in the quarterbacks, it's really been

1431
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: only in that receiver room. And we talked about how

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: it's a real opportunity. You know, it's a dual edged sword.

1433
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 1: When you get these opportunities right, you can prove that

1434
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: you can cut the mustard and get more opportunities, or

1435
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: you can also prove that you can't, and they're gonna

1436
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: have to find somebody else to come in here and

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: see if they can. Romeo Cornale would always talk to

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: us about the importance of practice and training camp, and

1439
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: for the veterans you gotta prove that you can still

1440
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: do it. For the rookies, you've got to prove that

1441
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: you can do it for the first time. But it

1442
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: does cut the other way when you think about it

1443
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: like that, Hey, this is your opportunity, and we are

1444
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: putting all of our evaluation eggs in this basket because

1445
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: this is the first time and maybe the last time

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: we see you in this role. If you don't make

1447
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: the most of it. Yeah, Greedy Williams so far right now,

1448
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: he's in his pads. He's out there, but he's not

1449
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: with that first team defense as I imagined. I still

1450
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: going coming back from that shoulder. And she was able

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: to play very well for the Brown's last year. No

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01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: harness this year, which they're very excited about. And uh,

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: as we see play action, they've got a J. Green

1454
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: and M J Emerson. Yeah, he looks tall and long

1455
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: and lean a little dumped down to Jachim Grant and

1456
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: that's what he does in space. He's just so in

1457
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: the mix. Here's something that I was doing my research

1458
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: getting ready in the notes off that blew my mind today.

1459
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,480
Speaker 1: And maybe you have this and I will applaud that immediately,

1460
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: so jackiem Grant. Obviously we know what he is as

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 1: a returner. He holds multiple franchises return records, six return touchdowns,

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: and his career was a Pro Bowler, All Pro all

1463
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: of that. Five five hundred five yards, three touchdowns as

1464
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: a receiver the last two seasons alone, going back to

1465
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,959
Speaker 1: his college, he's the all time leading receiver in Texas

1466
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: Tech history. Wow, boy, I wouldn't have had that with Crabtree.

1467
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: So he played with my homes well through one game,

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01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: so that helps. I mean it's over three thie, it's

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: like three thousand, so he was yards. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: thought immediately had been Crabtrew been the first thing I

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: was guess, and then I probably thought there'd be other

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Speaker 1: people that I hadn't heard of. Kim Grant time leading

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: receiver in Texas Tech history. I would not have had that.

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, but he was. He was there at

1475
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: a great time. And I'll tell you on that play

1476
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,879
Speaker 1: right there, you see what he can do. His stature

1477
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: is such that it's almost like he gets lost. It's

1478
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: like he's on right. He's small, and his ability to

1479
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: change directions and accelerate immediately is very interesting. Uh, And

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: I think it's what makes him exceptional in as a

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Speaker 1: return guy is ability to stop and then start on

1482
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: a diamond, accelerate quickly, and make those big returns. He

1483
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: holds the longest return in both both Chicago Bears and

1484
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins franchise history. I'm interesting that Devin Hester did

1485
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: not hold that record for a punt return for a

1486
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: punt return tester as the longest kick return ever return

1487
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: every so jachem great because I don't think maybe even

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: as good as Devin Hester was, I don't know that

1489
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: he ever had the audacity to feel upunt at his

1490
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: own three. As Jackie granted last year when he when

1491
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: he went Chris Tabor specialties coordinators that it was, you know,

1492
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: a little nervous about that at the time, and then

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01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden no no note yes, kind of

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01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: like that guy taking the deep three. Al right, great

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: shot shot, good well. I always thinking about when you're

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Speaker 1: considering what makes a great returner, right, it's the combination

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01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: of vision, fearlessness, right, because with the return game, it's

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01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: a lot different than if you're just a running back

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: in the backfield where you've only got seven yards of

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: steam and the linebackers are four or five yards from

1501
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, so you know, you're talking about eleven, twelve,

1502
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: thirteen yards maybe guys running at each other, but in

1503
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: the return game, you're talking about forty sixty nearly the

1504
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: entire field where these guys are getting an opportunity to

1505
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: get up to steam and you've got to be able

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: to find with your vision where that crack is and

1507
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: then fearlessly hit it, because if there's any hesitation, that

1508
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: whole closes. And that's where Josh Cribbs excelled the most. Obviously,

1509
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: Cribs being a little bit of a different body style

1510
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: as a return much taller, much bigger, but just as

1511
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: fearless as Jachim Grant. Jachim Grant has that quickness, that

1512
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: agility to be able to get up the field and

1513
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: make all the guys that are trying to tackle the

1514
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: returner think that that's the whole he's gonna hit, and

1515
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: then he can easily bounce it out to another hole.

1516
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes him very, very dangerous

1517
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 1: as a return man, and that's what's made him so effective.

1518
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett there getting a rep with the starters he

1519
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: threw a little screen and Nick Chubb. That was blown

1520
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: up by Jeremiah ausu Coamo, who has been all over

1521
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: the field to see it since he has been here

1522
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: in this camp and really since he joined the Browns

1523
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: and then credible rookie season he had and now that

1524
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: they are expecting even more from him here in the

1525
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: year number two. But it is fun to see those pets.

1526
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: But you mentioned Josh Cribs. That's the last time that

1527
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: the Browns had a kick return touchdown. You remember the game,

1528
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: two of them in that game. The last time we

1529
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: had a punt return touchdown was Travis Benjamin Week two

1530
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: against Tennessee. It wasn't John Football that was. That was

1531
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: Josh McCown. I believe it got knocked out in the

1532
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: opener against the Jets, like to Mario Davis, and then

1533
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: John Football started that game and they ended up getting

1534
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: the win in that one. And he just throws it

1535
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: in the windows, just easible. It just darts. He just

1536
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: starts it in there. Um I tell you the the

1537
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: other thing, you know, I saw pretty earlier today, he's

1538
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,839
Speaker 1: the biggest smile. Oh god, you know we're talking yesterday

1539
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: about you know, have been happened Jacobe the first six

1540
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: games as the suspension stands, and um, you know, what

1541
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: does that look like? What is this? And then you

1542
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: start to think about all three as you think about

1543
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: an entire roster, and you think about we've talked so

1544
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: much about what we've done defensively. I saw a little

1545
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: bit Kate York didn't miss yesterday, including a fifty one

1546
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: from nine. Stride out there, strides out there, just blast

1547
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: and you just go, boy, every phase has been checkmarked.

1548
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: They're all check marks. And now that one is and

1549
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: that you're talking about Grant York. We've always been an

1550
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: elite coverage unit under Mike Preefer. That has been true.

1551
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: But we have and we had great punting under Coal,

1552
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean because without one of the great coals of

1553
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: all time, if not the greatest, but we have not

1554
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: been explosive in the return game. We haven't really changed

1555
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: the field that way. And we you know, the hammer

1556
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: could beat the ball a little bit. But you gotta

1557
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: go back to Andy Lee being here when we had

1558
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: a punter that really was a weapon. And now you've

1559
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: got guys, you know, but hor kids last year set

1560
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: the franchise record for the Packers in terms of UH

1561
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: the average yards per punt over forty eight two years

1562
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: ago led the league at over fifty. You know, Charlton

1563
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: can boom it as well. We've got punters who can

1564
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: boom it. We've got a kicker now who can boom

1565
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: it and has been eight so far, twelve of twelve

1566
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: a training camp. And then he got a guy who's

1567
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: had a return touchdown four straight years. You think about

1568
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: the fact that we haven't had a kick return touchdown

1569
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: in thirteen, we haven't had a punt return touchdown in seven,

1570
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: Like that's a big deal. That has the chance to

1571
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: be the difference between winning and losing a game somewhere

1572
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: during the season. And you know, too often last year

1573
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: it was a missfield goal here, a missed extra point there,

1574
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: derail some momentum. We never generated anything. I mean, you

1575
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: were here, and what I want to say it was

1576
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: fourteen when all of a sudden, we threw your buddy

1577
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Jim Leonard back. There is a punt catcher.

1578
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: We didn't even have a punt returner. We just had

1579
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: a designated punt catcher, not a not a big return guy.

1580
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: Was a Catcher's got a little bit of wiggling just

1581
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: on that play there in the middle. He's got a

1582
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: little bit, I think, a little bit of the kick

1583
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: return stats, and the reason that they haven't had a

1584
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,839
Speaker 1: kick return for a touchdown is the change of right. Obviously,

1585
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot more that uh yea, the great Jeff

1586
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: I gave him a way to just gave you. He

1587
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: was not interested in saying hi, or he probably was

1588
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna stay way. That's sitting on that melon right there.

1589
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 1: That is right there. Um. But I could see the

1590
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: weight of the world off of Prief's shoulders, right, Because

1591
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: when you don't have an elite guy returning the football,

1592
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: you can do everything right. All ten guys shot perfectly

1593
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: block and you're gonna get the ball back to you know,

1594
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: maybe where you'd get it at a touchback in the

1595
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: kickoff game, and an apart return you might get ten

1596
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: or fifteen yards. And so you feel like a little

1597
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: bit of Ah, I'm banging my head against the wall

1598
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: because we're doing everything right. All the guys in the

1599
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: return game, they're doing the things that I'm asking them,

1600
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: but they're not getting that reward right because they're not

1601
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: getting those big explosive returns that you want and uh,

1602
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: it is gonna be beautiful to see that first return

1603
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: that you Keene Grant takes to the house because First

1604
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: Energy Stadium wherever we are, maybe it's even in Carolina

1605
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: Week one is absolutely electric of the Browns fans that

1606
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: are there well that he can only not only can

1607
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: he help you when everybody does their job, he can

1608
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: make you right when people are wrong. That's what the

1609
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: elk and that's that's right. That's what quarterbacks do. That's

1610
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: what the great quarterbacks do. They can make any play right,

1611
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: and they can make any play work even if it

1612
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily the right call for the situation. See, it's

1613
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: some nice studding Jacob Phillips right there knifeing in. And

1614
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: he's a guy that with Anthony Walker Jr. Out getting

1615
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: a lot of work as a starting mic linebacker. And

1616
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 1: I think that's not necessarily a competition. I was talking

1617
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: with with Jason Tarver, are linebacker coach and great friend

1618
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: of the show. He said, he said, we have four starters.

1619
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: Let me just be clear about that. We have four starters.

1620
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Uh A walk j okay Jacob Phillips and talk for

1621
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: a talkie when he's in those roles. Obviously, is the

1622
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: same linebacker, but that's a room that's got some athleticism.

1623
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: All four of your top guys are back again, and

1624
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: with Phillips healthy, you have a chance, I think, to

1625
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: be really long with him and a Woosue Cormo out

1626
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: there at the same time. And Tox get to play

1627
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: some mic linebacker right now with Walker out, and he's

1628
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: having a blast, having an absolute time his life calling

1629
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: some of the stuff on the defense. Yeah, Phillips, you

1630
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: you take notice just the way he looks. He just

1631
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, he's been injured so much, but

1632
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: when he plays, the impact is is absolutely noticeable. This

1633
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: has been fun. It has been fun. It doesn't matter

1634
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: how small the window is. By the way Watson gets

1635
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: in there right there throwing the needle to d p

1636
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: J on that one for a complete about fifty yards

1637
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. Not only do you

1638
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: see all of the hard stuff look easy, the easy

1639
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: stuff is really you seem like there's you know, lamps

1640
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: or lamps and that's that's that's a new thing. And

1641
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: so that's that's been certainly fun. This is great. We

1642
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: got eleven on eleven out here at the Cross Country

1643
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:43,200
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1647
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Speaker 1: Off I wanted to the first day in pads and

1648
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: now you're in it. You got eleven on eleven. We've

1649
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: been waiting for this type the thing for a long time.

1650
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: You get a little sometimes it gets a little testy, right,

1651
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: but that's all a good thing. What's the mentality on

1652
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: on that type of thing? We just saw m J

1653
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: and DPJ have a little push. It's kind of fun.

1654
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: Everybody pats everybody on the head. What what's the mentality

1655
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: with that? Well, because you're not tackling to the ground,

1656
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: you're not blocking guys to the ground right at first

1657
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: safety reasons obviously don't want anybody on the ground rolling

1658
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: people up because that's where you get a lot of

1659
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 1: the knee and ankle injuries and stuff. There's a certain

1660
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: unwritten rule and coordination that you have to have with

1661
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: the other side to know exactly when to pull up right.

1662
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: And the first day of pads, everyone's got a little

1663
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: extra energy, you got that extra nervousness like I was

1664
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. And it seems like, especially maybe the

1665
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: first two three periods, everybody's just taking it a little

1666
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: bit further. Every play, every everybody's pushing just one more second,

1667
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: and pretty soon somebody's gonna put their foot down and

1668
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: say it all. I'm not gonna put up with that anymore.

1669
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be anybody's how here, and I'm gonna

1670
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: stand up for myself, right, And a lot of coaches

1671
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: they encourage that, right. They want to make sure that

1672
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: you're setting the tone for the defense, you're setting the

1673
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: tone for the other side, and you're letting your brothers know, hey,

1674
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: I got your back, right, So there's gonna be a

1675
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: little bit of the pushing and shoving. But I think

1676
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: it's good for Kevin Stefanci, which he always talks about, Hey,

1677
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: we're here to'll get our work in right, and they

1678
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: need to understand, hey, that's okay, a little pushing, shoving,

1679
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: a little spirit, little energy, that's great. That's all about

1680
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: training camp and and building yourself and getting yourself ready

1681
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: for the season. But you just don't want to go

1682
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: over that line and start wasting time. And more than anything,

1683
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 1: when you're a big guy, you don't want to waste energy. Fight.

1684
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: Fighting is exhausting. Remember, the most exhausted I was ever

1685
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 1: in any training camp was when Mike Patton was the

1686
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: head coach, and I don't know if you remember, we

1687
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 1: got in all sorts of brawls because he was enouraging

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: the defense to fight, and so the offense we're trying

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01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: to that was all about like building the personality and

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: the swagger and blah blah blah. Go ahead, see, I'll

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01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: let you chime in here. Well, there was a lot

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: going on at that time. Not only was he encouraging

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01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: the defense, and it was clearly a training camp that

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: was designed. They would show the fights in meetings and

1695
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: like grade them on what they did during the fights.

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01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: They also I felt like, maybe I could be wrong,

1697
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: but I don't want to speak out of term, but

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: it felt like as an observer, I'll say that it

1699
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: felt like the defense had a pretty good idea what

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 1: the offense was doing. There was a lot of script

1701
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: readers is what they would call it, and it drove

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan absolute daddy, and Kyle would get pissed, just

1703
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: like us an offense because tip of that offense, like

1704
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: we're all about our work. We're all about like efficiency

1705
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: and dotting our eyes and crossing our te s. And

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01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,919
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, these guys on these bozos

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01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: on defense are first of all, they're reading our plays

1708
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: and they're scripting the perfect defense for everyone the outside,

1709
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: Like we're trying to get some work done here, and

1710
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: you guys are blitzing into every play with the perfect blitz.

1711
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: Like I'm maddened, Like you could see exactly what your

1712
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: buddies calling every time, that's what they were. And then

1713
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: they're like coaching them up on the fights. So we're

1714
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: just losing all this practice time for the silliness. So

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01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: finally we started putting our foot down and fighting back,

1716
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: and it turned into this just all off brawl battle

1717
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: where it was like a three four minute wrestling match

1718
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: with dud I don't even remember who started. But it

1719
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: usually starts with old line D line, or at least

1720
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: even if it starts on the outside, then it's usually

1721
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 1: a d lineman just flying in from twenty yards away

1722
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: and taking a cheap shot and knocking somebody off the

1723
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: pile and then it's a big battle, and you're in

1724
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: a wrestling match. And if anybody wrestled in high school,

1725
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: they know how exhausting two or three minutes of wrestling

1726
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: is compared to like a five or six second football play.

1727
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: And then after that, what does Petton do? Now he's

1728
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: gonna put his foot down about the fighting because the

1729
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: offense was the one fighting this time, and he lined

1730
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: everybody up on the sideline and we ran half gassers

1731
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: for about fifteen minutes. Do you land any do you

1732
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: land any Haymakers? Or is it more Yeah, it's more

1733
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: of a wrestling match. I was smart enough and always

1734
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: kept a cool head to understand that punching with a

1735
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: helmet on is counterproductive. You're not getting anything, and so

1736
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: my move of choice was usually the choke. I was

1737
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: well known for the choke, the rear naked choke this big,

1738
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: or you can go with the solar plex punch or

1739
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 1: the jab right you can get in there, or the kidneys.

1740
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: Those were sort of your best, most vulnerable areas on

1741
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: your opponent. The rear naked choke you don't want to get.

1742
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: He actually we got in a battle. This was during

1743
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: the season indoor. Actually um we got in a fight

1744
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: and he was on the bottom. Of course, like usual,

1745
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: I won, and I had choked him out to the

1746
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: point where he said he couldn't breathe and he couldn't talk,

1747
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: because yeah, it was I don't know if he tapped out,

1748
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,799
Speaker 1: but the coaches started pulling us off, and I started

1749
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: walking back to the huddle and I'm like thirty yards

1750
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: from him, and he's like, he's like trying to talk

1751
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 1: to you because his wind pipe was kind of crushed.

1752
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: And finally he got to the point where like Romeo

1753
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: was like, I don't I don't really care, and so

1754
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: he turns and he just starts spreading at me as

1755
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm walking back to the huddle and just t bones

1756
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: me from behind, and of course what happens. The fight

1757
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 1: started again and turned around I started talking about again,

1758
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: and then we all got kicked out of practice, and

1759
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: then the next day, all good. We need this to

1760
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: be a record for us there, because I feel like

1761
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 1: this is a part of your career that like has

1762
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: maybe not even been brought before. Half the with the

1763
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: rear naked chick. Nobody nobody's in there when we're practicing

1764
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: right in the season. But yeah, I you know, as

1765
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: as an old guy, as one of the leaders, you

1766
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: kind of have to be the disciplinarian, and you're the

1767
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: one everybody looks too to see is hey, did we

1768
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: go out a line? Did we go too far? So

1769
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: you gotta keep peace at times, but sometimes you know,

1770
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: you gotta illicit punishment the very naked choke. That's right,

1771
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: Net Starks. Sometimes you gotta hand out the punish uptimes.

1772
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: You gotta if you're gonna be the one to wheel that,

1773
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta do It's resolutely wheeld the sword. Still

1774
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: so much more to come. You listen to Clean Broad's

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Speaker 1: you're off your ear impressions here what we've seen in

1782
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: our first bit of full contact here. Yeah, one of

1783
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: the things I really wanted to see was sort of

1784
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: a ramping up of the energy and the intensity, which

1785
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: is usually what you get with pads, and that's exactly

1786
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: what we've seen. We've seen a lot of energy spirit,

1787
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: We've seen accuracy from the Shaun Watson, a lot of

1788
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: completed passes, some explosive runs from Nick Chubbs, so exactly

1789
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: what you were hoping to see today. I think Kevin

1790
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Stefanski is gonna be very happy about the amount of

1791
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: work and the quality of the work that these guys

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01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: are getting out here today. I would agree. And I

1793
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: think we've seen some nice place from the defense as well.

1794
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,839
Speaker 1: M j Emerson, who had great coverage on downwind People's

1795
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: jones on that one that maybe that led to a

1796
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: near frakus, although cooler heads prevailed, which was also good

1797
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: to see. I was looking forward to. What I look

1798
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: forward to the most is one on ones. I love

1799
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: a good one on one. I haven't we I don't

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01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: think we've seen him yet. I was looking to see

1801
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes when special teams happens, they'll get you know,

1802
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: get a little O line D line. But it looks

1803
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: like they're all in their own position groups right now.

1804
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: So no one on ones as of yet. But that's

1805
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: always something that I really look forward to. I think

1806
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: that's probably the fans favorite time because that's really when

1807
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 1: you can actually tell who's having a good camp. Like

1808
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: when you're watching one on ones, you know who's one

1809
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: and who's lost. When you're watching the team drills, sometimes

1810
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: it's a little difficult to know. I was that guy

1811
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: just put in a bad position because his buddy screwed

1812
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: him and he was just trying to help and make

1813
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the best of a bad situation, or was he actually

1814
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: getting beat in that place? So it's really where the

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01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: we are separated, separated from the chef. Gosh, what a

1816
01:28:52,880 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: great goodbye the farmer, and listen that the wheat is

1817
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: that we're putting the pest sides right on, right as

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01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: we're causing. It's a great conversation we had yesterday. True,

1819
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: you roll your true. I learned that from that right

1820
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: out of his I told you about the chickpeas. That's right, yeah, chickpeas. Yeah,

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