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Speaker 1: We're going to have an hour podcast with John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: He's going to join me in about fifteen minutes to

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Speaker 1: talk some college football and the NFL opening weekend, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's Day ABU obviously with Fox the Cleveland Dallas Cowboy

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Speaker 1: game highlights an incredible weekend jet San Francisco. But I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about USC's twenty seven to twenty win

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Speaker 1: over LSU. The line was four to four and a half.

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Speaker 1: The late money came in on USC, and I'm always

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Speaker 1: I'm not suspicious, but when I see late money moving

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Speaker 1: late money came in on USC. And my two takeaways

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Speaker 1: are you know, I've said this for years, the NFL

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Speaker 1: much younger than the NFL, they have limitations on practice

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Speaker 1: hours in college. And USC's offense is three top sophomore receivers,

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Speaker 1: had a meticulous opening game in a high leverage situation

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: My first takeaway is how meticulous the game was. Offensively

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old. That USC offense is freshman sophomores, very

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Speaker 1: few upperclassmen. Mannheim, the center, who's probably a top three

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Speaker 1: He was left tackle, very good at it would have

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Speaker 1: I thought he played very well, So I just thought

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Speaker 1: seven years at Michigan it's you know, Lincoln Riley's overrated.

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Speaker 1: It's not that USC scored a lot of points with Lane, Sark, Clay,

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Speaker 3: The wide receiver, the number two looks like an NFL guy.

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Speaker 2: They're a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is, and I said this last

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Speaker 3: night in the reaction, that if they both go nine

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Speaker 3: everyone's overreacting, they have so much talent, Well, if that's

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Speaker 2: USC beat them. I mean that's right.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge swing game, right if they end up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in LSU does not face Georgia and gets bam

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Speaker 1: So the Big Ten went seventeen and one, and this

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Speaker 1: is something I thought about Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC,

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Speaker 1: especially Texas and the way they can recruit that state.

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Speaker 1: It makes it a better conference. But adding Washington, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: and USC to the Big Ten is not a slight upgrade.

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Speaker 1: I could argue that after Ohio State, now that Harbaugh's gone.

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Speaker 1: After Ohio State, if I said the next five years,

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Speaker 1: the second, third, fourth, and fifth best teams in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten were Oregon, USC, Michigan, Washington. Like, I don't

482
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Speaker 1: think it's crazy to suggest that adding three of the

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Speaker 1: best four programs in the conference, if Utah always counts,

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Speaker 1: I think in that foursome, but with the right coach USC, Oregon, Washington,

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Speaker 1: those are playoff teams. Every time Washington's had a good coach,

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Speaker 1: Don James, Rick Neuheisel, Chris Peterson, Kaitlin Depoor, they vy

487
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Speaker 1: for a national championship. So it's like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: people understand it's Texas Oklahoma make the SEC thicker. You

489
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Speaker 1: added three on any given year top twelve programs to

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten, May it be a better overall conference? Now?

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Speaker 3: I think over the course of time, I think this

492
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Speaker 3: year there's gonna be a lot of reaction to the SEC.

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Speaker 3: Their quarterback play Colin. I mean, I'm gonna give Oregon

494
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a pass. I mean that game

495
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: was really weird. It was played boys. They played boys

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Speaker 3: this week. They better kick their ass and kind of

497
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: get after it because that was that was bizarre. The

498
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Speaker 3: quarterback play. I didn't know that much about him. I'm

499
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Speaker 3: sure you heard his name, the Nico kid from Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: That's Tennessee's quarterback. I got news for you.

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Speaker 2: That guy's pretty special.

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Speaker 3: Jackson dark Ole miss They're pretty good obviously, the two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback Dylan Gabriels at Oregon because they told him,

504
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna start. Jackson Arnold's gonna start. He's pretty

505
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Speaker 3: good too. Their high end teams with their quarterbacks are

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Speaker 3: pretty obviously, Carson Beck and Georgia. Over the course of time.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, USC is only going to get

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Speaker 3: better if they keep looking like this over the next

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Speaker 3: two or three years. Oregon's not going anywhere. But I

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Speaker 3: got a lot of question marks about Wisconsin, about Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: like the four or five, six seven group of Yes,

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Speaker 3: Penn State, you feel pretty good at Penn State could

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Speaker 3: be a major problem. I was texting scouts all week

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00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: and long. I mean, they're front seven's full of NFL guys,

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Speaker 3: and if that quarterback takes a big step, that game

516
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: got like delayed for twenty five hours, but they could

517
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Speaker 3: be a serious factor, I mean a serious.

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Speaker 1: Factory this year.

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Speaker 3: So I think the high end of the big ten

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Speaker 3: in the SEC. It's pretty clear that though Miami I

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Speaker 3: would still kind of red flag.

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Speaker 2: The quarterback can be up and down, but they're pretty talented.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cam Ward I watched. I watched a lot of

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Speaker 1: cam Ward at Washington State. Cam's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's an NFL guy, but he's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. He kind of just slings it.

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Speaker 1: It's got an almost seven on seven field to it.

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Speaker 1: He's slinging stuff and they just have been so inconsistent

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I think he's a playmaker, so I think

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Speaker 1: he makes some interest. I think they can beat almost

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Speaker 1: anybody and lose to a lot of teams. I still

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00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: don't love Mario crystal Ball as a situational coach. He's

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Speaker 1: got a little Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 2: I like the.

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Speaker 1: Physicality, I like the culture. I don't know if I

536
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: love the game management munch he can recruit.

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Speaker 3: One thing that really jumped out to me, and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you would agree, is did you see the ratings

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Speaker 3: on some of the games on Saturday just gonna bring

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Speaker 3: it up. And I talked about this last night, the

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Speaker 3: synergy of the NFL, the draft in college football. It's

542
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: all under this umbrella now right, So you're watching, You're like, wait,

543
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Speaker 3: who's this quarterback? He might be a first rounder. Colorado

544
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: and North Dakota State doing five million people on Thursday night.

545
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: And one thing I think and listen, they've never had

546
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Speaker 3: a czar or a commissioner of the NCAA is a

547
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: laughingstock to everyone at every individual program. No, we need

548
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: to play real games. I have no problem like Michigan

549
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: playing Fresno State, or Oregon playing Boise State, or some

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00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: of those teams in the South, like the one Dilford,

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Speaker 3: Like those are power five or non power five whatever

552
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Speaker 3: they consider it, but their Division one. You should not

553
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: be allowed to play the And I got a lot

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00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: of respect for the Montanas and stuff. You should get

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00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: one of those games, and then everyone else in non

556
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: conference should be a Power five program because and the

557
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: more and more TVs. Power because they're cutting the bills.

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00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: We got to wipe that out because how good that

559
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: felt like.

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Speaker 2: An NFL ight game last night.

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Speaker 3: The physicality in Notre Dame and A and m a

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00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: M's quarterbacks got some serious issues, but the hitting of

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00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: that game, it felt like how many NFL guys are

564
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: on this field? And then you go to some of

565
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: these other games and I understand, like Ole Miss they've

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Speaker 3: been recruiting or scheduling these games forever.

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Speaker 2: They're a joke.

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Speaker 3: I mean Missouri's Missouri, Ole Miss. When these teams are

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Speaker 3: beating teams sixty to nothing, like what are we doing?

570
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: And then they get mad fans don't show up, play

571
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Speaker 3: real games, play real teams, and everyone is zoned in.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought this up because the ratings

573
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: were spectacular this weekend and people could say, well, there's

574
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: nothing else on the other WNBA is getting big ratings

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00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: with Caitlin Clark Major League Baseball races. Don't tell me

576
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: nothing was on. There was plenty of on. Plus, it's

577
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: the summer. People aren't watching TV rights Labor Day and

578
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: it's Scottie Scheffler's golfing. There was plenty on TV. It

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00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: got ratings because I think John it's almost like have

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00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: you ever been asked to go to a party and

581
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: you're like, well, who's going to the party, And it's like, oh, oh,

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00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: there's two couples. Yeah, let's go to the party. It'd

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Speaker 1: be a fun party. I think college football got so

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00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: regional and so southern that big. I saw some research

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Speaker 1: on this about a month ago that the Northeast and

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Speaker 1: the west didn't feel included and those are population centers

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Speaker 1: and they just didn't watch. And now with a twelve

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00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: team playoff, you're like, it's a party. You're asking, well,

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00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: who's in the party, and you're like, well, there's gonna

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00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: be twelve teams in the party. I think when USC

591
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: was rolling, LA was getting ratings, the West Coast was

592
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Speaker 1: getting ratings, they felt represented Notre When Notre Dame and

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00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: Penn State are good, then the Northeast feels represented. But

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Speaker 1: when it's LSU and Georgia, you know, Southern guys like

595
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: college football is great. It's not it's regional. It's tribe.

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00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I stopped talking about it on my radio show.

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: Well it's four programs. It was Bama clems in Georgia,

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Speaker 3: Florida State.

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Speaker 1: Wild State. So so the bottom line is it's now

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Speaker 1: a party that everybody like. If you're a Notre Dame fan,

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Speaker 1: you're like, we can lose two games and get into

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Speaker 1: the party. USC's like if USC beats Michigan, you look

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00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: at that schedule, they can lose to Penn State or

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They're getting into the party, and I think

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00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: it's just a part. It feels like, finally, all these

606
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: years of this nonsensical scheduling where SEC teams are playing

607
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Citadel four times, it feels like, now I'm going to

608
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm willing to emotionally engage on Labor Day weekend because

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: there'll be a payoff at the party later, a more equitable,

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Speaker 1: reasonable payoff with more people included.

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Speaker 3: I've always thought, and my thing was with the SEC,

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Speaker 3: is that Nick Saban was almost a Tiger Woods Steph

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Speaker 3: Curry like figure. Even if you didn't you know, you

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00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: could live in California or live in Washington, to live

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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: in the Northeast, you kind of paid attention. You might

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00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: not watch the games, but he was just such a

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00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: big figure and his presence forced all these other programs

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Speaker 3: and the money he brought in then it forced the Oregons,

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Speaker 3: the Ohio States, the Michigan's, really Florida State, Clemson to

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: up their game, and it's benefited everybody. And I think

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Speaker 3: you really see that with I mean Colin. How many

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00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: Southern California kids are playing all over the country. When

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Speaker 3: I was in high school in the early two thousands,

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Speaker 3: there were the occasional Tom Brady to Michigan or DJ

625
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: Williams went to Miami, but for the most part, you

626
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: went to USC UCLA, probably Oregon or Washington right.

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Speaker 2: It was very rare to and.

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Speaker 3: Now the overlap of the recruiting is like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: can relate to this guy. All these teams are good.

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Speaker 3: It's just really and I think I'm more likely to

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Speaker 3: watch the SEC now because they have Southern California guys

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00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: or CJ. Stroud. It's like, oh, he's LA kids starting

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00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: quarterback for Ohio State. I'm in And I think the

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00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: world is so flat now in college football. The other

635
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: thing is with the transfer portal. I watched this quarterback

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00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: in my team. If I'm an Oklahoma fan, what's Dylan

637
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: Gabriel doing in Oklahoma? It's really added think if you're

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00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: a Washington State guy, you're keeping an.

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Speaker 2: Eye on Miami.

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Speaker 3: There have been so many just factors of the streamline.

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: It's so connected now to the NFL. It's just it's

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00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: what college basketball used to be in the seventies, eighties,

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Speaker 3: and nineties, right, it felt like one A and one B.

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Speaker 3: And now college football is like that. You feel like

645
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: you're watching the minor leagues, but it feels big leagues

646
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: because how cool are these games?

647
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Right?

648
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: Because of the ambiance and the vibe of the stadium.

649
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: How awesome.

650
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: I think one of the best things to happen in

651
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: football was the Raiders going to Vegas because it created

652
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: the stadium and now they have all these huge events there.

653
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: It's great.

654
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: It was also good.

655
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Speaker 1: It was so good. Okay, let's pivot to the NFL.

656
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: I had said this is that we all know this

657
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: that there's seven new playoff teams every year, and there's

658
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: always a good team that pulls back. And I think

659
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: there's an argument to be made that San Francisco's concerning

660
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Trent Williams said this week, I'm unhappy they don't win

661
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: without Trent Williams and McCaffrey playing. So Trent's out. McCaffrey's

662
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: coming on back to bat years where he carried the ball,

663
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: touched the ball four hundred times. You look at his

664
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: history when he does that, those heavy use years. The

665
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: next year, Christian gets hurt. Trent Williams you just signed.

666
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: Still not sure he's happy? Ricky Piersall gets shot. Thank

667
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: god he's okay. And I think the Rams are a

668
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl team. I think they're in the super Bowl bubble.

669
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I think Arizona played their ass off last year at

670
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the end and is competitive. And I also think Seattle's

671
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: a total wild card. I think my take is and

672
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: this is no shot at Pete Carroll. I think they

673
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: kind of underachieved the last two years. I like their

674
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: draft picks, I like their players. I'm sitting there thinking

675
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: to myself, is New York? Are the Jets going to

676
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: walk in to Santa Clara and kick this team in

677
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: the head. Are they in trouble?

678
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: Well, all we ever did was talk about Ayuk and

679
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't the most important player not signed right or

680
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: having a contract issue. That's Trent Williams, and every day

681
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: that goes by, if he doesn't play against the Jets,

682
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: that's a major problem.

683
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: Who knows what the Jets are going to look like.

684
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: But we know they got a lot of players up front,

685
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: and I would imagine asan Reddick has fifteen million reasons

686
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: to show up this week so that they got pass

687
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: rush the Ricky Piersoll thing. I don't see how that

688
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 3: doesn't rattle. I mean, John Lynch is at the hospital

689
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: two nights ago or whatever. I mean, he easily could

690
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: have died. How many people have you ever heard of

691
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: that get shot in the chest and lift goes to

692
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 3: their body and it's by the grace of God he's alive.

693
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: And I think his mom tweeted out something essentially saying

694
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: that now from a playing standpoint, he had been banged up,

695
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: they weren't depending on him, so getting Brandon Ayuk. I

696
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: think people are over correcting a little bit on the Niners.

697
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: McCaffrey said three weeks ago he would have played if

698
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: they had real games. They really they're very careful with McCaffrey,

699
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 3: Bosa and Trent when he's around in these in these

700
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: fall games, it comes if perty's playing well, they're going

701
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: to be a problem because they still got Debo that

702
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: Kittles healthy. If McCaffrey comes back, you gotta have trenton

703
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: there because their offensive line isn't exactly loaded with first rounders,

704
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: and defensively, Colin, I think they're gonna be pretty good.

705
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: I think their secondary is going to be awesome. Tarvarius

706
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: Ward is a high end player. Leonor this guy they

707
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 3: drafted a couple of years ago has become really, really good.

708
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: Their safety play John Lynch might miss on some first rounders,

709
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: but that guy knows safeties. I mean they go about

710
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 3: four deep of guys that will light you up. Fred

711
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Warner still, if not the best, him and Rokuwan one

712
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: of the best middle linebackers in the league. Their defensive line,

713
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: when that gets rolling, they're always good. I think people

714
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: are over correcting a little bit, but I'm with you.

715
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: My thing goes back to Seattle is how often first

716
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 3: year coach excellent defensive coordinator. It's a big transition, though

717
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of elite coordinator struggle in that

718
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: spot and not saying he will, but until he does it,

719
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: we don't know. Their quarterback is still a guy that

720
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: no one would pick in the top fIF.

721
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: If you were getting a draft.

722
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

723
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Speaker 3: If you told me Dak Prescott was their quarterback or

724
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: some cousins healthy, I'd be like, oh shit, But I

725
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 3: still Geno and the Niners have beat him like five

726
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: straight times. So you think McVeigh and Stafford are intimidated

727
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: by him now their talent, they get Byron, they get

728
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: one of the best defenders in a draft. They're draft

729
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: in the middle of the first round, so they are

730
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: a huge wild card. Look at the forty nine ers schedule.

731
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Speaker 3: If they beat the Jets, they're probably more likely to

732
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 3: start four and one than struggle. So I'm not as

733
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: down on the Niners. But it is not debatable. They

734
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: had the craziest training camp of it. I mean, they

735
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: had a player gets shot. They have multiple holdouts of

736
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: high end pro bowlers and all pros and health concerns.

737
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: But I still like them against the Jets.

738
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Collen So, I think that Tom Brady situation is fascinating.

739
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: I had people asking me in the airport about this.

740
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: I went golfing and I had a couple of people

741
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: ask me about the story that he's going to be.

742
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, he's trying to be a raider's owner, and

743
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: if you're a raider's owner, there are limitations on what

744
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: you can do in the NFL.

745
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: And had you heard about had you heard about that

746
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: before like in the hall, No, no, and so, And

747
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: it's one of those things that that's above my pay grade,

748
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: that's management.

749
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: But so for people that don't know. He can't criticize officials,

750
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: he can't be in certain meetings, production meetings. I don't

751
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: think the production meetings is a big deal. I think,

752
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: have you been watching this stuff? That Brady is allowing

753
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: people to see the binders he has from every single season,

754
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: everybody he ever faced. His preparation is even compared to

755
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: people who spend a lot of time preparing, is literally

756
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: next level. And he just got off the field. I

757
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: don't worry about any of that. The only part of

758
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: it that concerns me, and it only may happen once

759
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: every two weeks, eight times a year that you may

760
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: have to call the officials and go that's a blown call.

761
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Now replay helps reverse a lot of miscalls. So again,

762
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: it's not the seventies eighties. But when I read all

763
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: the stuff, I thought, do you view it as credibility dinged?

764
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: If he can't rip officials? And I'm not saying rip,

765
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: but be question officiating.

766
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Listen. I like my announcers.

767
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: I think once everyone started getting on Romo, Troykman kind

768
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: of got his swag back and he'll light into somebody,

769
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: and I like that. Now some people maybe like more

770
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: Rosier glass, but here's the one thing. There's twenty thirty

771
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: million people watching this game when stuff screwed up. Now,

772
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: at football, you have a pretty good idea, and people

773
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: don't like to hear rose colored glasses when stuff's pretty obvious.

774
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: I thought, it's not only officials. This isn't like certain

775
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: things like with teams. To me, the restrictions that I

776
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: read feel like god part of my big question mark

777
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: with Tom because heard him on your show.

778
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: He's awesome. I mean his ability to speak very.

779
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: Complicated stuff, but I was like, let his true personality

780
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: come out that he's known as the great teammate. Part

781
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: of that is being one of the guys obviously ribbing

782
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: some people.

783
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty difficult.

784
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: It will not be difficult for him to get the

785
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: coaches in the players on the phone, right, Maybe him back.

786
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like a deal, That doesn't matter at

787
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: all that way.

788
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: Peyton talks about that sometimes. On Monday night, I talked

789
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: to Sean McVeigh on his drive home. They can go

790
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: him and Peyton get anybody on the phone in the

791
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: NFL in five minutes, right. I do think him not

792
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: being able to do that, if that's really serious, couldn't

793
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: you argue and listen. I'm as pro capitalism as anybody,

794
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: but this feels like it's going to be pretty tough

795
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: if you one day. Actually, he's just never allowed to

796
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: do that. It is pretty difficult to do your job

797
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: if there are legit restrictions. Because it's easy this year,

798
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: but what about five years from now when you have

799
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: some coaches you know nothing about. Those production meetings do

800
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: hold some value, right, And that's one thing I'm not

801
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: saying to like divest from the Raiders because that's pretty

802
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: good investment investing in the NFL.

803
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: But it feels pretty difficult. Fox is given him almost

804
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: four hundred million dollars.

805
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, I rent all the restrictions and listen.

806
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a corporate opinionist, so essentially, I have strong

807
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: opinions for companies ESPN and FOCK that have rights with everybody.

808
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: And my take has always been I can say pretty

809
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: much everything and anything, but I don't make it personal.

810
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go after Roger Goodell personally or

811
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Adam Silver, even now that we don't have the NBA.

812
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: I try to be fair with people, even when I'm

813
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: critical of people, like for a year. Even with Baker Mayfield,

814
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I've said he is a top twenty quarterback. I think

815
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. He and Emily are wonderful people.

816
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I root for the guy. I thought he was immature

817
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: when he came into the league. So I try to

818
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: qualify stuff. I don't want to. I don't want to

819
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: be a sledgehammer. I don't want to be an anvil

820
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: because I'm in these relationships too. I see these commissioners,

821
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: I see these coaches. I don't want to be a jerk.

822
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: I want to be somewhat respected as a generalist or

823
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: an opinionist. But the one that did jump out to

824
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: me was the officiating because and again Tom's such a

825
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: prep monster. I don't worry about the other stuff, but

826
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: that one I think. I think what it would be.

827
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: It wouldn't affect him, but it would mean a lot

828
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: of bad press for him and Fox, and I think

829
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: corporations don't like that.

830
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: My theory was when I read the headline and kind

831
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: of read I think Florio wrote a long thing on

832
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: it was, think how many owners over the last twenty

833
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: years he's cost money? Playoff victories knocked him out Because

834
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: this feels like pretty inoculate. What's he doing going to

835
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: your practice and telling Antonio Pierce, who beat him in

836
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, to steal some guy with a practice squad, Like,

837
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: what is really going to happen? But I bet some

838
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: owners or maybe they're vps or people that know the truth,

839
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: because this feels pretty deep on the rule book for

840
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: someone to dive and word gets out and they all

841
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: kind of you know, a group of three four, and

842
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: then it just kind of grows. Is not that they

843
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: have anything against him personally, but from a competitive business standpoint,

844
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: because the NFL is kind of unique that they're all

845
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: independent entities worth billions of dollars, but they benefit as

846
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: a unit. So sometimes they are I would say fractured

847
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: and sometimes on because this doesn't gain steam without a

848
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: group of several guys coming together and making a stink.

849
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: Right.

850
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't think Roger's just saying you can't do this, right.

851
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: I think it's some owners And think about he's beat

852
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people in big games. That the difference

853
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: how much what were the Patriots worth twenty years ago

854
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: before they started rattling off Super Bowls? They were worth

855
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: a lot more now because of the history all tied

856
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: to Tom and think the Colts might have three or

857
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 3: four Super Bowls, The Ravens, the Steelers. I mean, there

858
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: are a lot of teams that the difference of the marketing,

859
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: the obviously what you make when you're a Super Bowl

860
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: champion getting to the Super Bowl. That just have an

861
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: axe to grind. And we saw it forever with people

862
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: going after Bill on.

863
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: Some of this stuff.

864
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: How about deflate Gate. That was the Cols. Yeah, I

865
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: mean that, the I mean theflate Gate. The irony of

866
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: deflate Gate is Brady after deflate Gate was a more

867
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: efficient quarterback. His numbers went up once we knew. It's

868
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: almost like harbought Michigan once the Connor Stallions story came out,

869
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: and now Harbor couldn't coach, and they played They played

870
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: their toughest games of the year late when all the

871
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Connor Stallion stuff was out, they beat people worse. So

872
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: it was like deflate Gate and Hardbaugh. We know Tom's great,

873
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: we know Michigan was great, but it let's be honest.

874
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: If flate Gate came from the Colts tournament, I.

875
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: Think I think you can look at the Colts, you know,

876
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: the Jets with Mangini, right with the spygate. I think

877
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: you could just go to their division. I can't imagine

878
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: the Dolphins think that highly of Tom him kicking their

879
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: ass forever. The Bills, the AFC North Teams, the Steelers,

880
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 3: the Ravens. And this isn't like we're going to ruin

881
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: your life. This is we have certain rules. This is

882
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: really deep in the rule book. Doesn't seem necessary. But

883
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, screw you. We're gonna make this a little

884
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: more difficult on you. And it's like, Okay, you want

885
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: to join our country club. We're not just letting you

886
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: right in because remember Mark Davis tried to almost let

887
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: him buy in at a number not equal to the

888
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 3: actual value, and the owner said no, no, no, no no.

889
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: If your team is valued as X, Tom needs to

890
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: pay this, even for a tiny percentage. So they have

891
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: made it I would say, pretty difficult on Tom to

892
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: get into this. What would you consider the NFL one

893
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: of the top five country clubs in America and it's

894
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: got to be one of the most might be the

895
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: most difficult thing to get involved in currently.

896
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the number one TV show on

897
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: every network it's on. I mean I always say this,

898
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: every business ever started in America is looking for marketing

899
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: and has to pay a fortune for it. I mean,

900
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: think about how much Stephen A. Smith, myself, Scott Van Pelt,

901
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Mike and Tony nick Wright, all these shows, how much

902
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: free publicity the NFL gets every day for six months,

903
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars on all of these talking shows, radio,

904
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: TV free. Every business looking for a free ad. So

905
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's it's the best once.

906
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: It's one of the great businesses tail in the world.

907
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: We're in, right, I mean, we can make a lot

908
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 3: of money just talking about football because of the amount

909
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: of people that want to listen and watch. Obviously they

910
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: consume these games. That's back to Tom. You're right, it

911
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: can get weird if he has to tiptoe about things

912
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: that are pretty obvious, right and that, and maybe he

913
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: won't care, But I think any like any human being

914
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: on a new job, you don't want to start.

915
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: It's a weird spot to be in that there's no

916
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: debating that.

917
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: Give me one team or one situation. I'll give you

918
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: mine first, so I'll give you a couple of seconds

919
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: to think about it. One team that you don't know

920
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: what the hell they're going to look like and so

921
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I can't get my arms around Philadelphia. So I'm not

922
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: in love with a coach. Take Out Nick Sirianni. One

923
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: guy is a different football team. Take Out Nick Sirianni

924
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: calling plays. Jalen Hurts a different quarterback. I think they've

925
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: upgraded coordinators. Jason Kelsey's gone. They are a bit top heavy.

926
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: I will say they've paid both receivers, but I mean

927
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: they've They've got a lot of money at the high ends.

928
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I think there's heat on Sirianni. I think Philadelphia has

929
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: proven they'll bail on a super Bowl winning coach. They'll

930
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: bail on Carson Wentz after they pay him. It's always

931
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: been an intense, somewhat combustible city because of the relentless

932
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: nature and the aggressive nature of the media and the fans.

933
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 1: I love Philadelphia. I don't know what I think. I

934
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: think because the division is still wonky. I like him,

935
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: but if you told me they want seven and ten

936
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: and Syrianna got fired the week after the Thanksgiving I

937
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't argue. What do I make of Philadelphia.

938
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing them not being pretty

939
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: good because of the talent they have, and I think

940
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: the coordinator upgrades are massive. I think Fangio has been

941
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: one of the better defensive coordinators. If he gets the

942
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 3: two defensive linemen they drafted, Georgia playing well, they draft

943
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: multiple corners, they still got Sleigh. I think the talent

944
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: they have on offense, Kellen Moore's proven to be a

945
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: pretty good offensive play caller. Nuss Meyer LSU's quarterback. His

946
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: dad's the quarterback coach. He coached Dak forever. I mean,

947
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: they got a real coach. Sirianna doesn't really. They just

948
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: they kind of want him to stay away, but he's

949
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: gonna get all the heat of.

950
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: Think about these two games Thursday and Friday.

951
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: To me, there's a ton of pressure on the Ravens,

952
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: not because anyone's jobs in jeopardy. Yeah, are you a

953
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: real team? Can you hang with this team? Because this

954
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: team win or lose that they don't care, Like they

955
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: don't see in January. They're not worried about you. You

956
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: need to to me on Friday night. It's like the

957
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 3: pressure's all on the Eagles because you'll lose a game.

958
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: The Packers are good, But like you just said, the

959
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: pressure all the weird stuff with Sirianni the relationship with

960
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: him in the quarterback. They've paid a lot of money

961
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: to Jalen, and they like Jalen I think more than

962
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: Carson in terms of the guy.

963
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: He's just an easier guy to deal with.

964
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: He's focused his football, the work ethic, the teammates. But

965
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 3: part of it it's a production based business, like they're

966
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: gonna need, you know, thirty plus touchdowns here and the

967
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: dynamic there. Their division sucks. I'm not into Washington. I

968
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: just don't think they're gonna be They don't have the talent.

969
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: New York's the quarterback situation is just terrible. I don't

970
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: think they got the talent either. And the Cowboys I

971
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: don't think are gonna be the twelve win team. They're

972
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: still but them in the Eagles, basically it feels like

973
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: split most years. I think anything less than ten and

974
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: being in the playoffs, obviously Heirianni would get fired. But

975
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: then it just gets weird, like you just stick with

976
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: Jalen because, like you said, they that city moves quick.

977
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: That city moves quick, and that's the thing with young quarterback.

978
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: We just saw these all these guys get drafted a

979
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Three years later, they're all on

980
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: different teams. These guys get huge contracts now because the

981
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: NFL is making so much money. It's like, yeah, we

982
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: already paid him a seventy million dollars to get him

983
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: out of here. Will twenty million a dead cap? You know,

984
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. But it's not even just quarterbacks. It happens

985
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: all sorts of players. So the pace in which everything

986
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: happens has never been faster in the NFL. And you

987
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: could argue no one operates faster in terms of pressure

988
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: and urgency than the Eagles, So it's gonna be fair.

989
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: I don't know either.

990
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet that game Friday night because who knows. Like,

991
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: if you tell me the Eagles come out firing, I'd

992
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: believe you. If you tell me it's weird, the game's

993
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: in Brazil, what you're doing, does that make any sense

994
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: to you? I'm pro expansion and pro growth.

995
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Now.

996
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: I text a couple of people with the Eagles.

997
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're going. They're like, oh, thank god, I

998
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: don't have to go. I'm doing something else. It's like that,

999
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: that is that's one of your Roger has been incredible

1000
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: the league office over the last the Internet age. The

1001
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: money they've made everybody most of their ideas work. That

1002
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: to me is pretty idiotic. I mean, that's that's unnecessary.

1003
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I feel like it wasn't it

1004
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: a few years ago the Yankees open in Japan or

1005
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: something and they were baseball.

1006
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: It's easy for.

1007
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: Like maybe the Mariners or the you know, the the Giants,

1008
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: But no, I mean I like the games in Mexico City,

1009
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: which is an amazing city. I have friends that have

1010
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: been there. They're like, oh my god, you got to

1011
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: go in your life best food city, maybe in you know,

1012
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: our our region of the country. And I like European Games.

1013
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: I was just over in London. There are NFL You'd

1014
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: be amazed. There are not just English Premier there are

1015
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: NFL caps all over London. You'll see them.

1016
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: Should have just gone there. To me that field, if

1017
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 3: you are going to go, just go across the pond.

1018
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: Don't go to Brazil, where I saw aj Brown said,

1019
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: you know, we went over the rules and they say

1020
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: no phones on the streets. So he's like, yeah, I

1021
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: think I'm just gonna stay in.

1022
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: My hotel room.

1023
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: Like if that, the parameters probably should cancel my team.

1024
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: I thought about pretty strong picking this team over the

1025
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: summer to win the division. I'm not I'm gonna pick

1026
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: the Texans, but the Colts, who I think they're pretty

1027
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: good and I like you, I love their coach. Watched

1028
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: the Anthony Richardson a couple times in the preseason. Incredible talent.

1029
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: The ball flies all over the map, though, So it's hard.

1030
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: Could they if he's pretty good and stays healthy, win

1031
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: ten games?

1032
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: For sure?

1033
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 3: But if he is just wildly inaccurate and against good teams,

1034
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: you're gonna lose a lot of those games. So it's

1035
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: like their margin from being to me, they could be

1036
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 3: seven to eight or they could be ten to eleven.

1037
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: It all comes down to him, and obviously he's gonna

1038
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: be rocky. But as the season goes, like what Shane

1039
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: did with Jalen, can he just get him under control?

1040
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: Jalen doesn't have He throws with more touch because he

1041
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: doesn't throw as hard. Yeah, it's really hard for this

1042
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: guy to not throw like one hundred mile an hour fastball.

1043
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: So it's incredible when the guy's.

1044
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: Seven feet away from him. So it's it's hard to

1045
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: play like that in the NFL if your team is

1046
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: not incredibly loaded. They're good, but I don't know if

1047
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 3: they could overcome some games where he's like fifty percent

1048
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: because the balls.

1049
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: Are all over the map.

1050
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Speaker 1: John Middlikoff Three and Out podcast, former NFL scout, the

1051
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: first of about twenty some weeks.

1052
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Speaker 2: In a row.

1053
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: When you generally, we will generally do these on Sunday night,

1054
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: you know that. But I just got back from for

1055
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: the record, John, I told my wife a couple of

1056
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: years ago, I said, we're going to do a European

1057
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: trip at least once a year for the rest, you know,

1058
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: prior next fifteen years. So we went to London for

1059
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: four or five days. And I don't care what anybody

1060
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: tells you. My wife is not a foodie, but her

1061
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: family's in the food business. She said, it's almost sacrilegious.

1062
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: She goes, I would take London food over Italy, and

1063
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: I said, just don't say it out loud. We had

1064
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: and we were at everything from pubs the hole in

1065
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: the walls to high end lunch places. Don't listen to anybody.

1066
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: London may not have good weather, that is a sensational

1067
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not New York, but it is a sensational

1068
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: food city. And if you like architecture and parks like

1069
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: I love to go on jogs or walks in like

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Speaker 1: overcast days. I'm a Northwest kid. God London. London is

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: spectacular and they have their cab system for anybody listening

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00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: is fascinating. It takes three to four years to get

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00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: a cab license. They're called black cabs. Their cab system

1074
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: is a complete game changer for anybody that is not

1075
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: from the country and for those who live in the country.

1076
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: So the pound is stronger than the dollar, so ten

1077
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: pounds is probably eleven and a half dollars. But if

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00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: you go to if you go to England and you

1079
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: go to London and you just first thing you do

1080
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: is you exchange or you take out, you know, ten

1081
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: pounds three hundred in tens. There's ten dollars or ten

1082
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: pound cab rides all over and taxi drivers in London

1083
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: make Uber and Lyft look like such ripoffs. There is

1084
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: no surge pricing. They are tour guides and cab drivers.

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00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: You have to know it takes four to five years

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00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: to be a cab driver or a taxi driver in England.

1087
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: You have to know every street in the city. Everyone.

1088
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: The testing is tests. Oh it's grueling, it's it's a

1089
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: multiple year to become qualification. Are taxi drivers in London?

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00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: My wife and I were laughing, we're like zigzagging back

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00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: ways to find like a weird nightclub at eleven at

1092
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: night that some causedier said, hey go try this place.

1093
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: It's a it's called uh Froggies, and we're and we're thinking, uh, okay,

1094
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: we couldn't find it in a week if it had

1095
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: dropped us off down the street. So if you go there,

1096
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: just know the transportation. You can take their version of

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: a subway. That's fine. The transportation and the food if

1098
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: you can get over overcast guys is sensational in London.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 3: So as a guy that has a large, shit pretty

1101
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: good sizeable position in uber, do they just not exist there?

1102
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 3: Do we have no presence? And then just the taxis well,

1103
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: they're going to school like they're medical, they're going to

1104
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: be doctors.

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00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you compete with that?

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00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Well, you can't compete with it. So I never used

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00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: those service.

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: You didn't use left when you were there?

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: No, No, My concierge at my hotel is he said,

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00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: we can get you a driver for one hundred pounds

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: an hour, which is probably again probably about one hundred

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00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: and twenty bucks. I think the pound is stronger than

1113
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: the American dollar right now. So or you can do

1114
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: a taxi. So my wife and I are you know,

1115
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: we'll just take taxis. We love. And they're fascinating people.

1116
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: I mean, they've just got these British accents. They're they're

1117
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: just regular people, but these are careers.

1118
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: You know.

1119
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: You you buy that taxi, it is yours. These people

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: are incredibly proud. They're tour guides. So if you're going

1121
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 1: to go over there, it is so wonderful. It really

1122
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: elevates the experience. They know the city like the back

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00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: of its hand. It's you know what it's like. It's

1124
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: it's like a bigger Chicago with even greater architecture. So

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00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: it's a it's a bigger Chicago with roads are tighter,

1126
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: but the architecture is even more dramatic. And I think

1127
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: Chicago's is a remarkable architecture city in North America. So

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00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: it's it was it was cold over there, like you

1129
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: weren't pain No, No, it was I lie, you know again,

1130
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: I like cold weather. It wasn't, but it's not Spain, Greece.

1131
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: It's not Paris. You're not going to get the mugginess consistently. No,

1132
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: you you get seventy degree days all the time.

1133
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: What was your best meal?

1134
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: My my, Well, I went to a place called at

1135
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: twenty two and had a dinner with Anne that was

1136
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: it was like a house that had become that had residences.

1137
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: That was remarkable. I went to a place called one

1138
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: o eight Brasserie and had a super food salad with shrimp,

1139
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: and I told my wife three bites into it, this

1140
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: is the greatest salad I've ever eaten in my life. Now,

1141
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: the portions in London are not American portions. They joke

1142
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: about it over there, you know, they joke about you know,

1143
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: we're fat. This is not Houston. You don't get a

1144
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: plate of brisket. It's not the way it works, but

1145
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: just the quality. They take it serious. Gordon Ramsey has

1146
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: a footprint all over the city. I mean you can't

1147
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: turn a corner without a Gordon Ramsey restaurant. And he's

1148
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: helped elevate the culinary experience. But I just think if

1149
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: you're if you and your wife, you know, there's no

1150
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: language barriers, tradition, architecture, it's civility, and the pubs are

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: fricking incredible, John, Any part of town, any part of

1152
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: town in London. You walk in a pub, you grab

1153
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: a beer, you're standing out in the street talking to

1154
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: a bloke about your favorite football team out in the

1155
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: street in Alley's. It's just the best, is it?

1156
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: You know? It's kind of there in New York City, right,

1157
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean, but it doesn't have that vibe of craziness.

1158
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven.

1159
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: Well, I would say I like London.

1160
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: Listen. I love.

1161
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Chicago's my favorite big city in the United States. I

1162
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: like La Chicago, Vancouver, BC. I love. I don't love

1163
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: a lot of big cities, you know, Boston's okay. I'm

1164
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: not really a Dallas, Atlanta, Houston don't do a lot

1165
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: for me. I don't like to be in my car.

1166
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: I want to walk Chicago, New York. I can walk Vancouver,

1167
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: I can walk London. You can walk everywhere. A Covenant Garden,

1168
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: by the way, a bit of a tourist trap, too

1169
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: crowded for my taste, a little young. If you're young,

1170
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: go to Covenant Garden. Not my scene. But I would say,

1171
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: compared to New York New York's bigger. I think London's

1172
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: easier to get around. Both have great parks, central parks,

1173
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, terrific. But I'm a London fan.

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm a London Did you did you hold your own

1175
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: bs and about soccer over some beers with random people

1176
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,959
Speaker 3: in pubs? Or it wasn't pretty intense? Are they talking

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: to like SEC people?

1178
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: If you're in Alabama, you better know your shit.

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: No, you're not going to fool anybody. No, No, eighty

1180
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: six mile an hour fastballs get past anybody.

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. All right, Bud, okay.

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Speaker 1: The volume. Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed

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