Speaker 1: Hi, go on, Pamela Pumpkin and you're about to do
Speaker 1: Pamela Pumpkins Halloween workout. This is allan, all right, him on,
Speaker 1: Shake off the skittles, Shake off the races, shake off
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Speaker 2: the witches broom right, the Witch's broom.
Speaker 3: Squash, Satan kick him in the crotch, swash, Satan, kick
Speaker 3: him in the crotch.
Speaker 1: Swash Satan kick him in the crotch. Kick that Satan
Speaker 1: in the crotch. Doom is to the laught, Doom is
Speaker 1: to the left, to the ride.
Speaker 4: Break it down.
Speaker 5: I'm a scarecrow doing the robot.
Speaker 4: Break it down.
Speaker 6: I'm a scarecrow doing the roadbot.
Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the Not Dungs podcast
Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, October thirty first, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. Happy Halloween. J E. Skeves here in the
Speaker 1: Classic Factory and alongside me as always, task.
Speaker 5: Mellis Yes, Happy Halloween, everyone.
Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. To ask next to him, it's a meatman tray, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: TK in Halloween costume and over yonder making the magic happen.
Speaker 1: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is here. We are
Speaker 1: Meatman or Muscleman. Which one do you prefer?
Speaker 7: Meatball actually? But for today's show, Eric Musselman please.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna say meat Man was my favorite
Speaker 1: Mega Man two character. Always love to use it him
Speaker 1: in that game. Shout out to the stream team for
Speaker 1: joining us live right now on YouTube. And if you're listening, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you no Halloween costume for yourself. There, Tassy, I thought
Speaker 1: you might have one as well, because you guys got
Speaker 1: the kids. You're going out like this trip. Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: don't like looking at it.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I see. My kids are gonna be pretty
Speaker 7: upset tonight. They think it's funny around the house, but
Speaker 7: I don't know about when we're around other six to
Speaker 7: eight year old I sent this to Laura as a joke.
Speaker 7: I was like, look at this hilarious thing I found.
Speaker 7: She was gonna order herself bones and me muscles. What
Speaker 7: a cute coup didn't have her size and bones. So
Speaker 7: I'm just walking around like bacon out there today. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna go vote early today wearing this. That's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: And what about you? What do you got anything in
Speaker 1: the story?
Speaker 5: Oh? I got out of it this year hash hashtag blessed.
Speaker 5: I feel so great and not having to do it.
Speaker 5: I've done it for several years in a row, and uh,
Speaker 5: this year the kids were so into their costumes they
Speaker 5: didn't care about us. So it's great. We've already done
Speaker 5: a Halloween trick or treat thing in our neighborhood. Halloween
Speaker 5: is over for us. God, it feels so good. It's
Speaker 5: in the past. Man, it feels great.
Speaker 1: It's one of those Halloween weekends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Halloween months. I've been at home depot looking
Speaker 5: at Halloween decorations for the last six weeks. We go
Speaker 5: every week one of my kids. People want to look
Speaker 5: at the inflatables and we end up buying some piece
Speaker 5: of crap.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 5: I love my decorations. One of the best houses in
Speaker 5: the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: People love it. Yeah, well, well, what's the what's the
Speaker 1: main feature on your lawne Chucky?
Speaker 5: Chucky always went.
Speaker 1: Screepy. We got lots to get to here. On today's podcast,
Speaker 1: we got winners and losers of the NBA weekend. But
Speaker 1: we start with another Weggie Friday Night and guess where
Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah, in Portland, our guy Lamar Hurd once
Speaker 1: again on the call, jose Simon Tea.
Speaker 5: The way bounces ahead, the nurkids repples.
Speaker 1: Into the land and.
Speaker 5: Well wedged on the glass.
Speaker 2: We have a Weddy.
Speaker 5: You had to wait until the officially calls.
Speaker 1: It's got to be officer and we have a kissal
Speaker 1: word from Command Centered.
Speaker 2: We have a web command center, Shane Goom chasing it down,
Speaker 2: registering another one of Weggie tracker dot com.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there it is, Yes, Radar.
Speaker 1: Our fourth Weggie of the season. Are back to back
Speaker 1: defensive Weggie from blocksh Eklund there on Nurk and Collaboro
Speaker 1: and Hurd having some fun on the broadcast. You'll love
Speaker 1: to see it. So not bad for start the season.
Speaker 5: How many have the Blazers had over the last year plus.
Speaker 1: Well, you can go check on you tracker dot com.
Speaker 1: That's right, and it's by far the most. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Winners of the NBA weekend Meetman Muscleman TK on zipping
Speaker 1: oh business.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you get us started, I thought I'd have
Speaker 7: a lot more visibility.
Speaker 1: It has eyes on it. You can't see through it
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 7: But it was a monster mash weekend for the Cleveland
Speaker 7: Cavaliers and Donovan Mitchell. They beat the Celtics in ot
Speaker 7: in Boston on Friday, a huge win. Forty one points
Speaker 7: from Mitchell, forty one from Karris Lavert and it felt
Speaker 7: like forty one highlights from Donovan.
Speaker 1: Mitchell in this one.
Speaker 7: He followed that up by beating the Knicks at home
Speaker 7: on Sunday, thirty eight points, twelve assists, eight threes for
Speaker 7: Donovan Mitchell, a single point for Karris Lavert.
Speaker 1: I do like that.
Speaker 7: Forty one and thirty eight for Mitchell, forty one and
Speaker 7: one for Lavert buck Ys, eight threes from Kevin Love
Speaker 7: as well, and another six threes from Dean Wade. Twenty
Speaker 7: two threes between Mitchell, Love and Wade. That'll get the
Speaker 7: job done. The Calves now are five and one after
Speaker 7: two weeks, sixth in offense, second in defense. It's them,
Speaker 7: the Suns and the Blazers who are in the top
Speaker 7: ten on both sides of the ball right now. If
Speaker 7: you do that for a whole season, you're a championship contender.
Speaker 7: We shall see as time goes on. They've got an
Speaker 7: MVP candidate, no doubt right now and Donovan Mitchell thirty
Speaker 7: to a game, five rebounds, seven assists. He's at fifty
Speaker 7: percent from the field forty five from three to eighty
Speaker 7: five at the line. He's the first guy since Wilt
Speaker 7: Chamberlain to go for thirty plus points in five out
Speaker 7: of six of games with his new team. That's the
Speaker 7: most Chilly.
Speaker 1: Piper, God, you hate those type of stats? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? I hate those type of stats and less
Speaker 1: the name is.
Speaker 7: Wilt Chamberlain on there, because I mean Will Chamberlain puts
Speaker 7: up the most ridiculous stats in NBA history, So if
Speaker 7: you get on a board with him and you're the
Speaker 7: only guy on a board, I'll give you credit for that.
Speaker 7: And oh yeah, let's not forget that the Cavs will
Speaker 7: eventually get Darius Garland back at some point. They've basically
Speaker 7: been doing this the whole season, missing their all star
Speaker 7: guard from last year.
Speaker 1: So you said maybe the.
Speaker 7: Pelicans or last season's Grizzlies, it also could be the Cavs.
Speaker 7: They were kind of last season's Grizzlies as well, but
Speaker 7: they're even more last season's Grizzlies.
Speaker 1: It's still early days, but I.
Speaker 7: Kind of underrated how quickly they would be able to
Speaker 7: click and figure things out together.
Speaker 1: They look awesome right now.
Speaker 5: It is wild how quickly they've just integrated a superstar
Speaker 5: into their lineup. And Donovan Mitchell is a superstar right now.
Speaker 5: We throw that word around, but man, he has just
Speaker 5: rebounded like no one really expected from his Utah days
Speaker 5: to go back to that guy in the playoffs that
Speaker 5: looked like he could carry your team. And so much
Speaker 5: kudos to that caz organization for allowing a guy to
Speaker 5: come into us a good situation even though they weren't
Speaker 5: a playoff team last year they won forty four games.
Speaker 5: To just be a superstar. How many organizations and cultures
Speaker 5: could do that. I don't think there's many at all.
Speaker 5: They've added a superstar to an incredible culture. I think
Speaker 5: we forget. As you said, Darius Garland, he could be
Speaker 5: the most sort of peeved about that, the most salty
Speaker 5: about the emergence of another are just sort of taking over.
Speaker 5: He's not there, obviously, but an incredible just guy, a
Speaker 5: locker room presence. The way he is attacking the rim
Speaker 5: every single time he gets into the lane, it's violent.
Speaker 5: He is a new player in comparison to last year
Speaker 5: with the Utah Jazz. That Cave Celtics game was just
Speaker 5: crazy watching it live. The Celtics definitely missed Robert Williams
Speaker 5: in that instance to be able to deal with a
Speaker 5: relentless guy in Donna Mitchell. He looks like a new
Speaker 5: player attacking the rim. Absolutely chef's kiss that Kris Slivert
Speaker 5: went from forty plus in one game to one point
Speaker 5: the other game, because that's Karslivert. Unfortunately, he's great one
Speaker 5: game and sometimes he doesn't show up. But the fact
Speaker 5: that the Cavs have had a superstar to their mix
Speaker 5: when they have two other All Stars plus a future
Speaker 5: All Star and Evan Mobley, that is it's amazing. They
Speaker 5: paid a lot for Donovan Mitchell. They paid so much
Speaker 5: in the offseason and they are getting every pennies worth.
Speaker 1: Yeah right now, Yeah, We're going to see the result
Speaker 1: the score from the Knicks game on Sunday with the Calves,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna think it was an absolute blowout, one
Speaker 1: twenty one to one away. It was the final score,
Speaker 1: but it was so far from that. The Knicks were up,
Speaker 1: you know, halfway through the fourth quarter, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: it was a tight game. It was really entertaining game.
Speaker 1: I know Fred Katz on the boulevard was tweeting left
Speaker 1: and right about it. I was enjoying it. You know,
Speaker 1: Brunson was hitting big shots, they were sticking around, and
Speaker 1: then just this explosion from Mitchell and Love. I think
Speaker 1: they combined for like a twenty zero run where they
Speaker 1: just could not miss threes, Dean Wade hitting a ton,
Speaker 1: like Trey said, and it got us to this end result.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Knicks put up a fight for
Speaker 1: like a good forty two minutes. If you want to
Speaker 1: call it that and it was just an onslaught from
Speaker 1: the calves at the end, which was pretty special.
Speaker 5: It was a cavalanche, Yeah, that's the word. Yea worldwide
Speaker 5: threw out there. So that they did that a lot
Speaker 5: last year where the fourth quarters in that arena in
Speaker 5: Cleveland just kind of came down on the other team
Speaker 5: and the good vibes were were wild last year. You know,
Speaker 5: smiles left and right, guys in the starting lineup, guys
Speaker 5: in the bench. Is Kevin Love coming off the bench.
Speaker 5: And that's carried over into this season. And so they
Speaker 5: knew what kind of locker room they had when they
Speaker 5: traded for Donovan mitchell It was only a couple months ago.
Speaker 5: The entire basketball world was pretty down on Donovan Mitchells
Speaker 5: as a player, as a leader, and you put him
Speaker 5: into this situation and man, there's not many more players
Speaker 5: that I love watching go into the lane like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, because he's a smaller guy. He's been in
Speaker 5: the dunk contest before he won that thing. It wasn't
Speaker 5: it's not that memorable of a dunk contest, but yeah,
Speaker 5: it's violent the way he's going at the rim. It's fun, man,
Speaker 5: It is fun just watching him and he takes over,
Speaker 5: so him and Garland are gonna have to figure it
Speaker 5: out a little bit. But Garland is I think, pretty
Speaker 5: comfortable in allowing Donovan Mitchell to be that number one guy.
Speaker 5: So fifty wins on deck for this team. I don't
Speaker 5: think there's any doubt.
Speaker 1: Do you think? And I heard them arguing or debating
Speaker 1: this on the Athletic NBA Show podcasts. Are they contender?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Is this a legit team that could challenge for at
Speaker 1: least a run to the NBA Finals? Are you putting
Speaker 1: them there with the Bucks and a team like the
Speaker 1: Celtics that they you know, just beat sweak out a
Speaker 1: win or is that is that maybe one one step
Speaker 1: too far this early in the season. What do you think?
Speaker 7: I would think more so next season than this season.
Speaker 7: It would have to be good matchups in the playoffs
Speaker 7: for the Calves, but I could see them making a
Speaker 7: run to the conference finals, similar to a Hawks team.
Speaker 1: Or to like the Mavericks last year.
Speaker 7: I think they're going to have a tough time when
Speaker 7: they're running up against big wings in a seven game series,
Speaker 7: but during eighty two games during the regular season, they
Speaker 7: could easily win fifty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, They've got great little components to deal with Giannis
Speaker 5: in their front line, so that that bodes well for
Speaker 5: going into the finals with Jared Allen and Evan Mobile
Speaker 5: if they can, if they can overcome that, I think
Speaker 5: Evan Mobley on the offensive end, his growth is going
Speaker 5: to be key to this because you know Jared Allen,
Speaker 5: they can't just throw the ball to, but they can
Speaker 5: throw the ball to Mitchell Garland. And if there's one
Speaker 5: more guy, I think if Evan Mobley can be that guy.
Speaker 5: And I said it last Friday, I said to watch
Speaker 5: out these next few months. They are giving him the
Speaker 5: ball and just allowing him to go one on one
Speaker 5: because he's that freaking talented. So his growth I think
Speaker 5: takes them from conference finalists, which they could achieve, to
Speaker 5: NBA finalist. I think I think it's sort of on him.
Speaker 5: But they bet on this future for like, as you said,
Speaker 5: they could do it next year. They've bet on this
Speaker 5: future for five years coming. They are so freaking young.
Speaker 5: This is great. This is this is a really really
Speaker 5: fun team that people should get behind.
Speaker 1: All Right, Cavaliers. Big winner of the weekend tasks who
Speaker 1: do you have next?
Speaker 5: Well, just to piggyback on that. I think anyone who
Speaker 5: sells dunk posters or still yeah they make them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's purveyors of dunk posters. What are kids going to
Speaker 5: have on their walls? Just NFTs? I mean you need,
Speaker 5: you still need, you still need posters.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're selling posters, you're selling n FTS. You're
Speaker 5: selling desktop backgrounds for your computer. This was a good weekend.
Speaker 5: There were great dunks out there. Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 5: Let's start with Donovan Mitchell just to piggyback there, because
Speaker 5: he had a monster on Luke Cornette of the Celtics
Speaker 5: on Friday night. This is a foot difference between these
Speaker 5: two humans, and he was able to just go over
Speaker 5: Luke Cornett. I think we have a different angle JD.
Speaker 5: If you're watching on YouTube, this one's more poster like
Speaker 5: with Evan Mobley in the background as he's on the rise. Like,
Speaker 5: I think this one is better because Luke Cornett is
Speaker 5: over the rim and Donovan Mitchell is gonna get up
Speaker 5: over Luke Cornett. You know, Donovan Mitchell does have a
Speaker 5: little bit more hang time than just Au Cornett.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's like a classic Donovan Mitchell dunk post too.
Speaker 1: His legs do that. Oh yeah, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: running upstairs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is hanging in the air. Is this is
Speaker 5: a fun time if you're watching Cavs games. But in
Speaker 5: that same game, another great poster from the other side,
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown on Donovan Mitchell. This one was violent and
Speaker 5: he added the cat gonna get this framed because he is, uh,
Speaker 5: he is. That one was wild. He had Kevin Love
Speaker 5: in the background there. And then Donovan Mitchell posted this
Speaker 5: photo on Instagram. It's Jalen Brown kind of peering over
Speaker 5: a wall with the caption, bro won't leave me alone
Speaker 5: because I think this is from the past. They appear
Speaker 5: to be friends, Donovid Mitchell and Jalen Brown. But yeah,
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown just absolutely gave it to Yeah. It was.
Speaker 5: It was an incredible as a two on one fast
Speaker 5: breakdown that they executed absolutely perfectly. And at least Donvin
Speaker 5: Mitchell went to go block that thing, but Jalen Brown
Speaker 5: just gave it to him. So posters. I was just thinking,
Speaker 5: my posters are coming back and now in that one game, uh,
Speaker 5: and then we had on Yaka and kong Wu who
Speaker 5: I grabbed this still it's not a it's not a
Speaker 5: beautiful still. You know, if you if you're, if you're
Speaker 5: if you're gonna you're right, there's gonna be some way. Yeah,
Speaker 5: one of the photoshop boys or Jerome is gonna have
Speaker 5: to get on this to to create you know. I
Speaker 5: just photoshop the ball in there. It's just a little blurry,
Speaker 5: but anyways, it looks like Aka is riding Janistkumpo. He
Speaker 5: had to put back dunk over his Nigerian brother there.
Speaker 5: So that was a very cool moment. I thought watching
Speaker 5: that live Andka has got he's got some big dunks
Speaker 5: in his short NBA career. I could have thrown in
Speaker 5: a shade and sharp his first career, first career start
Speaker 5: that got future. Yeah, buying it, buying it. First career
Speaker 5: start for the Blazers. Had three big dunks on Friday nights.
Speaker 5: So it's a good time for high flyers in the league, nifters,
Speaker 5: n f tears, as some called poster sellers. Whoever it was,
Speaker 5: it was a really good weekend for high flyers for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean Mitchell had won in the Knicks game too.
Speaker 1: I mean the dunk itself wasn't on anybody, and he
Speaker 1: actually just got it over the rim, but it was
Speaker 1: the way he set it up with the spin in
Speaker 1: the lane and then throwing it down.
Speaker 5: It was huge.
Speaker 1: It was huge, all right. My winner of the weekend.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Tyrese, Maxi and the seventy six
Speaker 1: ers in general. Trey frank nine hundred twelve five to
Speaker 1: two OHO tweeted this in Frank did Yeah, Sixers got
Speaker 1: to be a winner of the weekend. They successfully completed
Speaker 1: the no dunks back to back Friday win versus the Raptors,
Speaker 1: Saturday win versus the Bulls. Frank numbers, Frankie numbers, you
Speaker 1: got us. You're right. They took care of the no
Speaker 1: dunks teams. Sixers did and they needed this as they
Speaker 1: started slowly this season. But Maxi on Friday night versus
Speaker 1: the Raps pretty special. No one beat in the lineup
Speaker 1: was out with the sore knee. Harden didn't do a
Speaker 1: whole lot, and it didn't matter. Sixers took care of
Speaker 1: business because Maxie couldn't miss. He had twenty seven points
Speaker 1: in the first half. He was a perfect ten for ten,
Speaker 1: ten for ten, knocking down all seven of his threes
Speaker 1: there in the first half, and then it sort of
Speaker 1: continued in the second half. Reps were hanging around, hanging around,
Speaker 1: and then when they're trying to make that last push,
Speaker 1: he said no, no, no, not tonight. He scored ten
Speaker 1: points Maxi did in like a minute to put the
Speaker 1: game out of reach. So added all up forty four
Speaker 1: points on fifteen to twenty shooting nine to three pointers,
Speaker 1: made eight boards, four assists, a steal. He was a
Speaker 1: plus twenty nine in this game. And for all those
Speaker 1: people I know, some of you here at the table
Speaker 1: that were picking Maxi as a potential am IP or
Speaker 1: even a first time All Star, you're looking like a
Speaker 1: strong selection there in the preseason because this guy's unbelievable
Speaker 1: and he owns the Raptors. Fred van Vliet is honestly
Speaker 1: one of the better defenders at the point guard position
Speaker 1: in this league. It doesn't matter Maxi destroys him every
Speaker 1: time they play, to the point where you know you
Speaker 1: got guys like Will Lou with the Raptors show saying nurse,
Speaker 1: try something else, like he can't stop them. Put somebody long.
Speaker 1: Garun On may throw something different at him, because Maxi
Speaker 1: just gets whatever he wants against this team. But that
Speaker 1: was big any thoughts there on the Friday Night victory
Speaker 1: or MAXI starting the season that he.
Speaker 5: Has well, yeah, I didn't pick him as most improved
Speaker 5: like Trey did. I was already heavy on the Sixers
Speaker 5: number one seed Joel and beat MVP, so I slowed
Speaker 5: down with my MIP call. But how good could this
Speaker 5: guy be when he is given the I just worry
Speaker 5: for the Philadelphia to have any six Ers because the
Speaker 5: similar question was brought up with Ben Simmons a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago when Joel Embiid was out of the lineup.
Speaker 5: Ben Simmons had a forty plus point game and he
Speaker 5: was allowed to just go into the lane and do
Speaker 5: what he wants. And they haven't been able to get
Speaker 5: the most out of Tyrese Maxey because of the way
Speaker 5: they play. They play one of the slowest paces in
Speaker 5: years in the NBA. And I just wonder if Tyres
Speaker 5: Maxy gets that lane and he's able to do what
Speaker 5: he wants and able to handle the ball a little
Speaker 5: bit more and Harden gives him a little bit more control,
Speaker 5: how good he could be. They just haven't found the
Speaker 5: balance quite yet, because this guy has some great some
Speaker 5: great peaks, but he also has some valleys because he's
Speaker 5: just not part of the game. Yes, it doesn't feel
Speaker 5: like so they're not.
Speaker 1: I think he's done an incredible job of he's been
Speaker 1: trying to find his role with this team that has
Speaker 1: him beat and then even harder now twenty three per
Speaker 1: game on fifty percent shooting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm with you, they're not even using him
Speaker 7: to the Maxi that they could be. He's incredible, and
Speaker 7: they need his speed because of how slowly they play.
Speaker 7: So there are definitely some balance issues I think with
Speaker 7: the Sixers with Embiid is the number one guy you
Speaker 7: would think, but Harden is back to almost Houston sort
Speaker 7: of Harden, so he wants more of the possessions. And
Speaker 7: max he's getting better and better every single year, so
Speaker 7: he wants more possessions. It'll take a little bit of
Speaker 7: time to figure it out. Not totally confident Doc Rivers
Speaker 7: is the guy to map out the layout of the court,
Speaker 7: but I've been encouraged with Maxi's start, even if he
Speaker 7: hasn't totally caught the league by fire.
Speaker 1: Outside of this Raptors game. Yeah, And then after the
Speaker 1: Raptors game on Friday night, they go to Chicago take
Speaker 1: on your bulls. And for the twelfth consecutive time, it
Speaker 1: caught me by surprise. The Sixers beat the Bulls. Embiid.
Speaker 1: He came back and had twenty five and hit a
Speaker 1: big big three that he was open on late. That
Speaker 1: was the one to push them over the edge. And
Speaker 1: Sixers improved the three and four. And if you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts on the Bulls game there, Embiid has never
Speaker 1: lost to the Bulls so ever. I was not surprised
Speaker 1: to see that. But you know, Joannis had never lost
Speaker 1: to the balls until the playoffs last year. So save
Speaker 1: it for April.
Speaker 5: There you go, ye, and I'm glad. We we'll skim
Speaker 5: over that. We'll skim over Fred van Vliet also, he
Speaker 5: was oer for eleven in that game against Tyrese Maxie.
Speaker 5: That was an odd one.
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna get the van Validat suffering
Speaker 1: from injury X after that game.
Speaker 5: We didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't. He just got his ass handed to him.
Speaker 1: Had a really off night there, Trey. Let's keep it going.
Speaker 1: Hold of the round we got for winning the weekend.
Speaker 7: A couple of nice wins for the San Antonio Spurs
Speaker 7: this weekend. Let's just say here, they beat the Chicago
Speaker 7: Bulls on Friday. Unfortunately a fun fourth quarter in this game.
Speaker 7: The Bulls right now just can't win on the weekends,
Speaker 7: that's the problem. They beat Chicago one hundred and twenty
Speaker 7: nine to one hundred and twenty four. Keep that number
Speaker 7: in your brain. Spurs also held on to beat the
Speaker 7: Timberwolves on Sunday night one hundred to seven to ninety eight,
Speaker 7: the first time this season that Minnesota has been under
Speaker 7: one hundred points. I do think, however, that the Timberwolves
Speaker 7: win is the outlier for San Antonio here because they've
Speaker 7: been winning with offense and pace tenth in the league
Speaker 7: right now. In offense, the Spurs are they're playing at
Speaker 7: the third fastest pace in the league, and they're shooting
Speaker 7: a ton of threes sixth in makes in the early
Speaker 7: days of the season. Right now, Kelton Johnson has really
Speaker 7: been the man for this team. He was great all weekend.
Speaker 7: Thirty three against the Bulls. He had threes twenty five
Speaker 7: against the Timberwolves, another five threes twenty four per game
Speaker 7: on forty five from the field, forty three from three.
Speaker 7: He looks skinnier like they called him big body. Keldon
Speaker 7: Johnson for the past couple of seasons. He had a
Speaker 7: twenty rebound game, but they said he lost twenty pounds
Speaker 7: coming into this season. His face looks way different. He
Speaker 7: looks quicker, but he's still a really strong guy. Kind
Speaker 7: of flings the ball when he shoots it. You know,
Speaker 7: he's got a little bit of a catapult release. But
Speaker 7: it's money right now. So great weekend for the Spurs
Speaker 7: on the court, considering they had a bunch of off
Speaker 7: court drama with Josh Primo being released for being a creep.
Speaker 1: Yeah I mean, and they acted quickly by all accounts
Speaker 1: of Spurs did. Primo was a tolth pick for those
Speaker 1: who don't know last year's draft twenty twenty one. He's
Speaker 1: nineteen years old, and Spurs waived him surprisingly on Friday.
Speaker 1: Cut everybody buy surprise was like what. ESPN sighting sources
Speaker 1: reported that Primo after had multiple alleged instances of him
Speaker 1: exposing himself to women. San Antonio Express News also confirm
Speaker 1: that Primo had a statement soon after that saying he's,
Speaker 1: you know, seek help to deal with previous trauma that
Speaker 1: he suffered and this so Spurs moving very quickly here
Speaker 1: tasks and rightfully so if you know these are these
Speaker 1: multiple legends are true, and I would assume they sort
Speaker 1: of are here.
Speaker 5: Yes, we hadn't heard a thing about them prior to
Speaker 5: Josh Primo being released and yeah, just entering his second season,
Speaker 5: it seemed obviously very odd. Took everyone by Spries. They
Speaker 5: just gave him his player option as well, exercised that
Speaker 5: player option for his fourth year, and have moved on
Speaker 5: very quickly. So hopefully Josh Primo, as the Spurs said
Speaker 5: in their release, gets the help that he needs and
Speaker 5: corrects his life real quick. That was unbelievable, I thought.
Speaker 5: In a different way. What was also unbelievable that Wolves
Speaker 5: and Spurs playing three times in a week like they
Speaker 5: had it back to back, and now they're playing again
Speaker 5: on Sunday and the Spurs beat them two out of
Speaker 5: three times in the same way where they just weren't
Speaker 5: all that intense defensively, And we talked about it last
Speaker 5: week and the same thing just happened again on Sunday
Speaker 5: and Karl Anthony Town's after the game saying, yeah, we
Speaker 5: just weren't weren't strong, weren't energetic, didn't have the defensive intensity.
Speaker 5: Chris Finch saying it was sort of us are on
Speaker 5: the ball defense, which you know, well, people, if you
Speaker 5: want a quick solution or a quick reason why that's happened,
Speaker 5: Patrick Beverly is gone, and maybe they don't have that
Speaker 5: defense intensity on the perimeter anymore. They don't have the
Speaker 5: intensity throughout the lineup, even though people thought Rudy Gobert
Speaker 5: would correct that. So, yeah, they're a team that's fine
Speaker 5: overall in terms of the record, but when you watch them,
Speaker 5: it isn't fun to watch. And it was interesting to
Speaker 5: see at the end of the game Greg Popovich go
Speaker 5: up to Karl Anthony Towns and have a pretty long
Speaker 5: pow wow. He got into Karl Anthony Town's ear, and
Speaker 5: you know, when Greg speaks, I'm sure Karl Anthony Towns listens.
Speaker 5: Carlington Towns thought he was going for quick handshake and out,
Speaker 5: but Greg pulled the man, let me listen, Son, your
Speaker 5: you have the ability, you have all the God given
Speaker 5: tools and whatever whatever else is. I shouldn't correct that.
Speaker 5: I shouldn't correct that. I sound like an analyst. I
Speaker 5: sound like Mark Jackson saying, and he said when he
Speaker 5: went up for his three point shot, you know like
Speaker 5: I'm putting the words in Pop's mouth, but I assume
Speaker 5: it was, hey, Carl, let's get this together. You are
Speaker 5: you have it all? So yeah, the Wolves start has
Speaker 5: been even though the record again is.
Speaker 1: They beat the Lakers luckily on what was that Friday night?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they squeezed one out and yeah that didn't look
Speaker 5: all that good either, But Anthony Davis wasn't in that game,
Speaker 5: So we won't harp on the Wolves too much. We
Speaker 5: did it last week, but not a great start for them.
Speaker 1: Who else you got then for a winner of the weekend.
Speaker 4: Let's go another game.
Speaker 5: Another small market team here with the Oklahoma City Thunder
Speaker 5: that people weren't expecting a lot of this season, sort
Speaker 5: of like the San Antonio Spurs. They're three and three, baby,
Speaker 5: they have won three straight and they are not a pushover.
Speaker 5: Anytime you see them on the basketball floor, they're gonna defend.
Speaker 5: They have the sixth best defense, and that comeback that
Speaker 5: they had this weekend against the Mavericks Saturday, it was
Speaker 5: all about defense. This is a pretty unique team because
Speaker 5: they can't shoot, but they're still winning. This is a
Speaker 5: stat here because their defense is getting it done. I
Speaker 5: like this stat. Last season there were seventy two games
Speaker 5: where a team shot twenty percent or worse from three,
Speaker 5: those teams were eight and sixty four in those games.
Speaker 5: Can't shoot the three. Everybody's talking about the math these days.
Speaker 5: You lose games eight and sixty four. Okay, So here's
Speaker 5: two to zero in games like that so far this season.
Speaker 1: Just bad shooting where they shots and.
Speaker 5: They won because they can defend all baby cakes. Thank
Speaker 5: you on Twitter for that stat. But the final four
Speaker 5: to fourteen minutes of the final four to fourteen of
Speaker 5: the fourth against the Mavericks on Saturday, the MAVs were
Speaker 5: up sixteen four to fourteen left and the MAVs only
Speaker 5: scored two points the rest of the way. In the
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, lou Dort was guarding Luka Doncic down the
Speaker 5: stretch and then Luca was asked postgame, how about that,
Speaker 5: lou Dort, huh, and he said, well, he is one
Speaker 5: of the top three defenders in the game. Wow podcast, Yeah,
Speaker 5: very very good for Yeah, maybe it's Straymond Green who
Speaker 5: has a podcast that is the other one of the
Speaker 5: other top three. Luca did not elaborate, he wasn't asked,
Speaker 5: I don't think. But a great compliment for Ludor who
Speaker 5: was guarding Luca. Also, you know one of the great
Speaker 5: defenders on ok SEE their best player Shay Gills, is
Speaker 5: Alexander Skeets. He might not be waiting too long for
Speaker 5: that All Star.
Speaker 1: If they stay five hundred, you can lock him in
Speaker 1: as an All Star. My god, it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: the record because he's on fire right now.
Speaker 5: This guy is fun. In that game, he was thirty
Speaker 5: eight points, six s, boards, nine and sis, two steals,
Speaker 5: one block, eight for eight from the line. He hasn't
Speaker 5: missed a free throw this season, and he only took
Speaker 5: two threes. He's Andre Miller like he's a little old school.
Speaker 5: He knows that he can't shoot the three all that well,
Speaker 5: and he's so squamy he can get wherever he wants.
Speaker 4: He can.
Speaker 5: So he's averaging thirty one on the season, fifty and
Speaker 5: thirty seven in terms of his percentages, seven assists, two
Speaker 5: point four steals, and one point two blocks one point
Speaker 5: two blocks with this guy per game. So he scored
Speaker 5: twenty four between twenty four and thirty eight in each
Speaker 5: of his five games. Are those are fun sort of
Speaker 5: top end guys on this team, But Sam Presty has
Speaker 5: built it up pretty well, I mean, they didn't have
Speaker 5: Josh Giddey on Saturday. Didn't matter. Isaiah Joe came in
Speaker 5: at last four thirty and yeah, where did you come from?
Speaker 5: He came from Philly. But he hasn't he hasn't played
Speaker 5: a lot in this league. He hadn't played the entire game.
Speaker 5: Four thirty left in the fourth quarter, Hey, Isaiah, get
Speaker 5: in there. He scored seven in the last few minutes
Speaker 5: of regulation, then eight in overtime for his fifteen points.
Speaker 5: Jalen Williams came back. He hadn't played since the first
Speaker 5: game of the season. He was injured, broke that orbital bone.
Speaker 5: He's playing with a mask. Looks weird. He hates it,
Speaker 5: but he was key in the fourth. He had thirteen overall.
Speaker 5: So this over under win total projected at twenty three
Speaker 5: and a half for this team. Overs looking good right now.
Speaker 5: The Spurs, I guess too, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 5: what is going on with these three teams?
Speaker 1: Even the Hornets, I mean are like a lot of
Speaker 1: us thought myself for sure, thought they might be the
Speaker 1: worst team in the league. And they're they're scrappy pulling
Speaker 1: out some wins here. Yeah, so incredible start. By from
Speaker 1: Shay here though, and the Thunder and Spurs. I'm glad
Speaker 1: we're showing some love to these small market teams that
Speaker 1: we get talked about.
Speaker 5: We'll get to the mass falling apart there a little
Speaker 5: bit at the end. But at the same time, Okay,
Speaker 5: see's tough to play against.
Speaker 1: The are some mini winners. I'm gonna throw them at you, guys.
Speaker 1: The Bucks have to be continue to be a winner
Speaker 1: of the weekend because they're still ndefeated. They're the only
Speaker 1: undefeated team in the league. And the Hawks put up
Speaker 1: a fight against them on Saturday night, and the night
Speaker 1: before they took care of the Knicks. So they just
Speaker 1: keep winning. They look like the best team in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't even have like their full squad
Speaker 1: here and they're taking care of business. So the Bucks
Speaker 1: a winner of the weekend. Got to show some love
Speaker 1: to all the teams that got their first w this weekend.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the Orlando Magic, We're talking about the
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings, yeah, and the Los Angeles Lakers. Tasks. They
Speaker 1: all get their first win, and a big part of
Speaker 1: that last two games actually with the Lakers, Russell Westbrook,
Speaker 1: you've been calling for it coming off the bench. And
Speaker 1: yesterday there on Sunday, eighteen points eight boards, eight assists, uh,
Speaker 1: and they were pumped and they gave Darvin Ham. They
Speaker 1: poured water on Darvin Ham, sort of like a sloppy steak.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, Dangerous Night's crew called the Lakers.
Speaker 7: I love like that tight white shirt with the yeah.
Speaker 1: On the happy cho yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: That would have been great. They could have turned around
Speaker 5: and gone out in l a Halloween.
Speaker 1: A suiot chicken lee. The Lakers used to be a
Speaker 1: piece of ships. Could change, that's the motto. So anyway,
Speaker 1: they all got their first victory. There anything about the
Speaker 1: Westbrook part of it all, because you have been saying
Speaker 1: this for a while.
Speaker 5: Doesn't he look so much happy?
Speaker 1: What's happy?
Speaker 4: No doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean he could just play.
Speaker 5: Like himself a little bit more in his hands when
Speaker 5: he comes off the bench. So I think it just
Speaker 5: makes sense. And he had his most efficient night of
Speaker 5: the season hanging out in the corners after touching the ball.
Speaker 5: I think, just just getting comfortable with the ball. Then
Speaker 5: he goes to the corner, and then that three point
Speaker 5: percentage I think will go up just because you know
Speaker 5: he's just in the game war you see, it happens
Speaker 5: in every NBA game. A player gets a little bit
Speaker 5: more confidence, see the balls goes through, just is a
Speaker 5: little more bit more comfortable. And yeah, they look like
Speaker 5: an entirely different squad. After one w they are one
Speaker 5: in five.
Speaker 1: Yeah the recorded it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah they needed it. But I don't know
Speaker 5: the fact that they've been playing hard defensively, like this
Speaker 5: team is still altogether. We'll get to another one in
Speaker 5: five team, you know, after a quick break, we get
Speaker 5: to the losers of the weekend, where it looks entirely
Speaker 5: different the way they play basketball. I know the Lakers
Speaker 5: don't have lasers and don't have shooting and don't have anyone,
Speaker 5: you know, really to compliment what Anthony Davis and Lebron
Speaker 5: James are. But at least they're playing hard. Iran has
Speaker 5: them playing hard in the fact that they're you know,
Speaker 5: splashing him at the after the game they're in the
Speaker 5: locker room. That's best one in five team in NBA history.
Speaker 1: What a take?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I think that's true.
Speaker 1: They got a thirteen three. That's just gonnay, that's the
Speaker 1: big thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they've been good defensively, they're playing hard defensively. They
Speaker 7: can score inside with Lebron and Ad it's just a
Speaker 7: matter of are they going to make shots from the outside.
Speaker 7: Thirteen for thirty forty three percent. That's like a week
Speaker 7: of basketball games for the Lakers usually, So shout out
Speaker 7: to them taking it down the best one in five
Speaker 7: team in the NBA. I would love to see some
Speaker 7: stats on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, a couple of the winners here. DeRozan Demarto
Speaker 1: Rosen twenty thousand points. Yes, he joined that club. Fiftieth
Speaker 1: player in NBA history to join the twenty k points club.
Speaker 1: He did it on Friday night against the Spurs, and
Speaker 1: immediately after he hit a jumper. Great that he did
Speaker 1: on a jumper, Pop called for a time out so
Speaker 1: they could celebrate it, you know, the Spurs public address
Speaker 1: announcer and form the crew out the game of standing ovation.
Speaker 1: Really nice moment. That was very very classy there from
Speaker 1: Pop quick trivia question for you guys and everybody joining
Speaker 1: us live. I was gonna say tomorrow is the seventh
Speaker 1: active player to hit the mark of twenty k can
Speaker 1: He named the other six guys in the league, Lebron
Speaker 1: and kd correct correct, Steph Curry correct, James Harden correct.
Speaker 1: Two more.
Speaker 5: LaMarcus Soldiers is an active mellow.
Speaker 1: Calling him active Chris Paul yep. One more. You literally
Speaker 1: just talked about him. Wait, Anthony Davis, No, no, task
Speaker 1: was just talking about him.
Speaker 5: Russell Wes.
Speaker 1: Noe there you go. So yes, tomort Rosen joins Lebron,
Speaker 1: Katie Harden, Wes what I call him, Wes Wes Wesbrook.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Russ and then I was gonna
Speaker 1: say Westbrook, and I just decided to go with Wes,
Speaker 1: Uh Curry and Chris Paul. There that is.
Speaker 5: I wonder if whether I don't want to go there,
Speaker 5: but we gotta go there. The Hall of Fame conversation
Speaker 5: about Themarga Rozze, Well he joined the even more exclusive club.
Speaker 5: About of twenty thousand point scores who aren't in the hall,
Speaker 5: you're Tom Chambers, you're Antoine Jamison.
Speaker 1: Got to save that man. We got to say that.
Speaker 5: There's just a few of those. There's just a few
Speaker 5: of those great.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about it, like, is the bar
Speaker 1: just gonna it's gonna go higher, It's going to have
Speaker 1: to go higher. I'm gonna have to final piece of
Speaker 1: news here and a winner for Boyon. Bogdanovitch signed a
Speaker 1: two year, thirty nine point one million dollar extension with
Speaker 1: the Pistons. UH. For those that don't know, he arrived
Speaker 1: from the Jazz in the preseason by way of a trade.
Speaker 1: He was entering the final year of his contract here
Speaker 1: earning a nineteen point five million and he's off to
Speaker 1: an incredible start for Detroit and they're winning some games.
Speaker 1: He's averaged twenty three points. Bogdanovic has on fifty two
Speaker 1: point six percent shooting from the floor and fifty one
Speaker 1: percent from deep on over seven attempts per game. He's
Speaker 1: trying to lets it fly and and the Pistons decide
Speaker 1: to give him the extension here first, were you shocked
Speaker 1: at all by this because we had talked about, like
Speaker 1: this might just be a slick move from Detroit to
Speaker 1: like have a potential guy that they can move at
Speaker 1: the deadline and get more back than what they gave
Speaker 1: up to get him, like maybe a pick or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: But seemed like an asset play when they got him
Speaker 5: from Utah.
Speaker 1: But it could still be. It could still Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the second year James Edward, the third for the
Speaker 1: athletic side is partially guaranteed.
Speaker 5: It seems like they're they're trying to win next year
Speaker 5: or the year after. Yeah. Yeah, and he fits the bill.
Speaker 5: He's a winning player. I know, he's kind of I
Speaker 5: don't know if the word is overlooked, I guess in
Speaker 5: the NBA, but he's a he's a great third, complimentary player.
Speaker 5: If you know, Caid can take it to the next level.
Speaker 5: He's he's had an incredible career. He's had to guard
Speaker 5: Lebron when he was with the Pacers. He's a guy
Speaker 5: who was drafted at the beginning of the second round
Speaker 5: and then has after starting or after staying in Europe
Speaker 5: for a few years. His played like it was going
Speaker 5: to be over a decade here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He didn't come to the league until he was
Speaker 1: like twenty five.
Speaker 5: Yeahs old. Yeah, and then so this will pay him,
Speaker 5: you know if that last year is guaranteed through the
Speaker 5: age of thirty six. The guy is just a baller.
Speaker 5: He'll take on the defensive assignments. He's he's a tough dude,
Speaker 5: and he'll score over twenty a game, yeah, efficiently.
Speaker 1: So that's a twenty million dollar player in So are they.
Speaker 5: Trying are they trying to win? Are they playing the
Speaker 5: long game? I guess they think that kid can take
Speaker 5: that next step and he can be there for them.
Speaker 5: I guess they could trade him at any time too,
Speaker 5: because that's a tradable.
Speaker 1: Tradable contract.
Speaker 7: It's a fine contract for like you're saying, a third
Speaker 7: option that can start for probably most teams if they
Speaker 7: don't have a lockdown like this is our number three guy.
Speaker 7: So yeah, this is a This is good stuff, and
Speaker 7: Kaid's turned it on a little bit. He had a
Speaker 7: really nice weekend after starting slow the first week of
Speaker 7: the season. And I certainly think that this could be
Speaker 7: traded down the line if they wanted next season. Maybe
Speaker 7: even makes it easier saying, hey, look you got him
Speaker 7: for another two years after this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, the Pistons were set to have a ton of
Speaker 1: cap space this offseason, and even with this extension, I
Speaker 1: think they have tons of financial flexible and wiggle room
Speaker 1: to add more free agents or to make trades. And
Speaker 1: they probably honestly were looking at like the free agent
Speaker 1: class coming up to and we're not wowed by it,
Speaker 1: especially when you consider all of the rookie extensions that
Speaker 1: we saw in Barrettpool Hero Hunter. I mean they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're off the market now and they're thinking, I don't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna do better than this, so we'll just
Speaker 1: lock him up at the price he basically is at now.
Speaker 1: And he's delivering for them too. I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's an incredible start from the season. So there you go, Agdanovich,
Speaker 1: Winter of the Weekend getting paid a little bit more.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: Losers of the Weekend don't go anywhere, all right, back
Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory. A lot of you joining us
Speaker 1: live here on YouTube this morning. We love to see it,
Speaker 1: but we need to see some more likes. The numbers
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Speaker 1: Come on, let's go hit the like button and let's
Speaker 1: hear all of your answers with winners of the weekend
Speaker 1: and losers of the Weekend, which we now go to
Speaker 1: and task. My man, oh boy, here we go. Get
Speaker 1: us started with your big loser of the NBA Weekend.
Speaker 5: I got this, Brooklyn nets one let's do this one.
Speaker 5: To me, it started on the basketball floor. I was
Speaker 5: watching that game against the Indiana Pacers on Saturday, and
Speaker 5: it felt like rock bottom for this one in five team.
Speaker 5: I don't know what rock bottom is for this Brooklyn
Speaker 5: Nets team. I don't We may have not gotten there yet.
Speaker 5: But the way that Kevin Durant was hanging his head
Speaker 5: was just emotionally drained. It felt like coming off the bench,
Speaker 5: this dude is just scoring thirty plus per game and
Speaker 5: they just keep on losing. He is, Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 5: entirely my size here, my noise is here. It just
Speaker 5: it is exactly what's going on with the Brooklyn Nets, Like,
Speaker 5: what is going on there? They must be extremely frustrated.
Speaker 5: I don't want to play body language doctor, but I
Speaker 5: got to. I got to with Kevin Durant. He just
Speaker 5: looks like he's not into it.
Speaker 1: Going through the motions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's scoring points, yeah yeah, yeah, But
Speaker 5: I think you've got to be frustrated, you know, comparing
Speaker 5: it to the Brooklyn or the Los Angeles Lakers situation.
Speaker 5: You've got two guys at the top of this roster,
Speaker 5: and Kyrie and Kevin Durant, who are scoring thirty plus
Speaker 5: per game. They're averaging thirty plus per game. What more
Speaker 5: can those guys do offensively? But their third guy who
Speaker 5: gets paid a lot, and Ben Simmons is just not
Speaker 5: adding enough to this team. And then their effort guys
Speaker 5: aren't efforting enough, and their defense just absolutely stinks. They
Speaker 5: got obliterated in the effort department against an Indiana Pacers team.
Speaker 5: This Brooklyn Nets team was had lost three in a
Speaker 5: row going into this game, so you'd think the Pacers
Speaker 5: coming in, we're going to get a win. This Pacers
Speaker 5: team is not expected to do much this year, but
Speaker 5: they were out rebounded by nineteen by the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 5: So you think Miles Turner probably had twenty boards. Now
Speaker 5: he wasn't even playing. They just they just were getting
Speaker 5: killed by a bunch of guys on this roster, up
Speaker 5: and down this roster that were trying harder than them.
Speaker 5: Thirteen more offensive rebound and look, I think the frustration
Speaker 5: what the hell are we doing here? Partly is we're
Speaker 5: hitting half of our shots. They hit fifty of their
Speaker 5: shots in this game, but still got trampled because they
Speaker 5: allowed a lot of open looks to the Pacers. They
Speaker 5: hit half their threes and allowed so many rebounds. So
Speaker 5: their number three guy isn't helping out enough. They're tiny,
Speaker 5: and you know, beyond their top two guys, they're not
Speaker 5: getting enough on this roster. And then we go postgame,
Speaker 5: after this horrific, horrific game, they had a player's only
Speaker 5: meeting after this game, the first players only meeting I
Speaker 5: think of the season if we look around the NBA,
Speaker 5: I think so after getting trampled by this Pacers team,
Speaker 5: and they're getting a rematch tonight, so we'll see how
Speaker 5: they respond in these two game baseball sets. The same
Speaker 5: thing happening tonight Indiana in Brooklyn. But also postgame, Kyrie
Speaker 5: Irving's media session was pretty eventful, so if you don't
Speaker 5: know backstory, Kyrie Irving tweeted his followers informing them about
Speaker 5: a movie, a movie which shut demonizes the Jewish people.
Speaker 5: It's the classic tropes about an entire race of people,
Speaker 5: conspiracy theory garbage, unfortunately, and Kyrie defended it postgame. He said,
Speaker 5: when asked about it, did I do anything illegal? Did
Speaker 5: I hurt anybody? Did I harm anybody? And as an influencer,
Speaker 5: as a person with such a big platform, the answer
Speaker 5: is absolutely yes. Even though he wants to take little
Speaker 5: pieces and parts of the movie that he tweeted about,
Speaker 5: there is a larger message in this movie and there's
Speaker 5: tons of little bits of information which are disgusting and
Speaker 5: contribute to a lot of the anti Semitic attacks that
Speaker 5: are happening in the US. They're at an all time
Speaker 5: high in twenty twenty one. It's been happening year after
Speaker 5: year after year, especially on the heels of what happened
Speaker 5: with Kanye West recently. I mean it's happening everywhere. People
Speaker 5: are jumping on the Kanye West band wagon, and those
Speaker 5: messages matter from these people, regardless if Kyrie, you know,
Speaker 5: is good intention well intentioned or not. It's it's extremely sad.
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be happening. And you know the NBA and
Speaker 5: the NETS owner Joe Syrelea's statements condemning it. Although you
Speaker 5: had Kanye West endorsing Kyrie Irving backing him, he put
Speaker 5: up up a photo of Kyrie Irving on his Instagram
Speaker 5: account saying, Oh, he's a real one. I mean he's
Speaker 5: a real one in terms of not knowing what the
Speaker 5: heck he's doing out there, that this is This is damaging,
Speaker 5: it's dangerous, and people are going to be attacked because
Speaker 5: they start to believe the crap that they are are
Speaker 5: given from stars. And Kyrie since deleted the tweet and
Speaker 5: there's that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's pretty sure double down in this yeah,
Speaker 1: press conference, whatever you want to call it. That game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, again, he was doubling down on the parts that
Speaker 5: he believes are whatever. You know, that stuff absolutely just
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. It's part of a bigger message from
Speaker 5: this movie, in this book, which are you know, there's
Speaker 5: so much anti semitism in it if you read about
Speaker 5: it and try and understand it. And he's got too
Speaker 5: big a platform to just be thinking that he can
Speaker 5: just you know, tweet one little thing and nothing else matters.
Speaker 5: So it's unfortunate. It's very, very unfortunate.
Speaker 7: I think it's just dangerous and super dishonest the way
Speaker 7: he's going about it. Maybe somebody hasn't been hurt specifically
Speaker 7: after a Kyrie Irving tweet, but people can and will
Speaker 7: be hurt being exposed to the things that he's linking to.
Speaker 7: I also think it's so dishonest where he's like, I'm
Speaker 7: such a big influence in my community, and then in
Speaker 7: the same answer he says, I have no influence in
Speaker 7: my community.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 7: He wants a reaction, and then when there's a reaction,
Speaker 7: he doesn't want to have a dialogue about it.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right.
Speaker 7: He's become the NBA's Kanye West, and you're kind of
Speaker 7: going down the wrong path when that's the guy agreeing
Speaker 7: with you. So very disappointing from Kyrie. But it's been
Speaker 7: about four years of being disappointed and Kyrie and the
Speaker 7: way he has been trying to lead or whatever you
Speaker 7: want to call it, since he's got to the Nets.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Nets or the League will do
Speaker 1: anything else besides statements? And let's be honest, the NBA
Speaker 1: said nothing in their statement, very toothless. I guess Josiah
Speaker 1: and the Nets said a little bit more in naming
Speaker 1: you know him. Will there be more consequences to pushing
Speaker 1: very dangerous and false ideas?
Speaker 5: That's highly unlikely. I don't think so. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: on the heels of a few months ago tweeting about
Speaker 5: secret societies in America, which you know, obviously being perpetuated,
Speaker 5: is being amplified in the US and on social media accounts.
Speaker 5: I mean it started as you know, sort of humorous,
Speaker 5: innocuous stuff way back when we flat earthed it. You know,
Speaker 5: that was some that was sort of the beginning of it.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, these these little bits come out and
Speaker 5: now it's getting far more dangerous. So should something be done.
Speaker 5: Apparently he's gonna meet with Josie and talk about it.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 5: No, it is it's unfortunate. I mean it rings sort
Speaker 5: of like what happened with Stephen Jackson last year. Because
Speaker 5: I say that because it's it's sort of The unfortunate
Speaker 5: part is Kyrie does speak up for Native American issues,
Speaker 5: and sort Steven Jackson was speaking up for the Black
Speaker 5: Lives Matter movement at the same time, and then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden come these anti semitic tropes that literally
Speaker 5: get people killed. I mean, it was happening this weekend.
Speaker 5: There was a message message projected on the Florida Gators
Speaker 5: Georgia Bulldog's game on the outside of the arena that
Speaker 5: Kanye West was right about the Jews. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: being amplified and perpetuated and this stuff just has to
Speaker 5: be squashed. And that's why these attacks were that the
Speaker 5: highest and twenty twenty one because of stuff like this.
Speaker 5: So it is on him. It's he just has to
Speaker 5: understand that, as he said, he has to understand his
Speaker 5: platform and he can't just can't just pick and choose
Speaker 5: and say message was good. I was doing something.
Speaker 1: I like this, Yeah, that's the thing. Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: post this crazy. But then when you're asked about it,
Speaker 1: you can't refuse to explain why you're doing it. And
Speaker 1: also you're promoting it. That's like, this is the part.
Speaker 1: Like now, like the conversation about this whole press conference
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, Nick Fredelli go pushing really
Speaker 1: hard on this, Like he's asking him, He's like, you
Speaker 1: promoted it, and he's saying, no, I didn't, No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just put a link up. Come on, That's what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Anytime I tweet, you tweet whatever, no matter
Speaker 1: your audience, especially when you have an audience of millions.
Speaker 1: But no matter your audience, you are promoting the definition
Speaker 1: of the word whatever it is you're directing people towards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was I just can't believe. Then the conversation
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, about how could Nick Fredell
Speaker 1: a reporter actually ask him to explain himself of what
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 7: And Kanye to me both want to speak and have
Speaker 7: people listen and not have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go the other way.
Speaker 7: And so no surprise that Kyrie was getting more upset
Speaker 7: with the phraseology of the question and then actually what
Speaker 7: was being discussed. They're giving him a chance to apologize
Speaker 7: every single interview like that is giving somebody a chance
Speaker 7: to apologize, and Kyrie's not going to do it.
Speaker 1: So what does that tell you about him?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think Bruce Arthur said this in the Tronto Star
Speaker 1: that the blowback convinces the contrarian mind of how right
Speaker 1: he must be. And that too, like Kyrie spot on,
Speaker 1: Kanye spot on, and it's it's it's crazy. Let's keep going,
Speaker 1: loser of the weekend. Back to the basketball floor, there
Speaker 1: we go. What do you got? Well?
Speaker 7: The Lakers, the Nets and the Sixers are providing cover
Speaker 7: for a lot of teams, I feel like, and one
Speaker 7: of them, no doubt, is the LA Clippers, who are
Speaker 7: really struggling. They've got four straight losses after losing to
Speaker 7: the Pelicans by thirty yesterday. In related news, possibly four
Speaker 7: straight games without Kawhi Leonard looks like he's going to
Speaker 7: be out again tonight. No real clue when he's going
Speaker 7: to be coming back. We knew there would be some
Speaker 7: management of his knee injuries, certainly coming into the season,
Speaker 7: but I don't think anybody expected him to play a
Speaker 7: handful of minutes off the bench in two games and
Speaker 7: then be out for another week. So weird stuff for
Speaker 7: the Clippers in that department. On the court, the people
Speaker 7: who are playing are struggle ing twenty ninth in offense,
Speaker 7: they're leading the league in turnovers. They're forcing the fewest turnovers,
Speaker 7: so you're getting six or seven extra shots. Basically, if
Speaker 7: you're the other team and they're twenty ninth and made threes,
Speaker 7: that's kind of like the Clippers id or identification.
Speaker 1: What am I trying to say? Identity right there?
Speaker 7: They make threes, they force turnovers because they're playing small
Speaker 7: and fast. It ain't happening so far. So I'm looking
Speaker 7: sideways at Paul George right now. He's at nineteen points
Speaker 7: per game, six rebounds, four assists, thirty eight from the
Speaker 7: field in twenty six from three. He came into the
Speaker 7: season saying he's number two for the Clippers. But if
Speaker 7: Kawhi's gonna be missing this much time. We need to
Speaker 7: see Paul George knocking on the door of the MVP
Speaker 7: table kind of thing. Performances from him. So disappointing all
Speaker 7: around from the Clippers. Their offense is just driving kick
Speaker 7: for the most part, So I'm not totally surprised if
Speaker 7: they don't have their main driving kick.
Speaker 1: Guys that they're not doing well. But I thought the.
Speaker 7: Clippers will be a little bit better than this to
Speaker 7: start the season and they are not.
Speaker 1: One thing we do in the first couple of weeks
Speaker 1: of the season task is are we pressing the panic
Speaker 1: button when it comes to, you know, a particular team's
Speaker 1: rough start. Are you doing it with the Clippers here?
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not just hovering over the panic button. I'm
Speaker 5: gently pressing it. Yeah, I can't bang on it quite
Speaker 5: yet because Kauhi hasn't played a lot. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, you want to press it because Kuai hasn't
Speaker 5: played a lot, the fact that his knee management is
Speaker 5: already an issue to start this season, and yeah, you
Speaker 5: can just say, of course they they're just being somewhat
Speaker 5: careful here, but he's been out for a long time.
Speaker 5: Prior to this season. He has played in only two
Speaker 5: of the six games to start. It's going to be
Speaker 5: two of seven after tonight. So Paul George needs his
Speaker 5: number one and he is, I think trying to take
Speaker 5: it slow into the season. I think that's what Paul
Speaker 5: George is doing. He's just trying to get to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And I know Skeetzy were saying that you didn't really
Speaker 5: believe in this team. All these all the the pundits,
Speaker 5: you know, putting a lot of praise on the Clippers
Speaker 5: before the season, thinking that the roster on paper makes sense.
Speaker 5: But they need their lead guys to be playing like
Speaker 5: lead guys, and I don't. I think Paul George has
Speaker 5: another level. He can play better, but I don't know
Speaker 5: if he wants to right right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was tricked by the Brooklyn Nets and believing
Speaker 1: in them. I wasn't being tricked by the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Clippers in the Western Conference. Is that big part of it?
Speaker 1: Of course is these guys just never play, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bad. I couldn't believe the seventeen and a half
Speaker 1: turnovers brigade. That is a hell of a lot of
Speaker 1: turnovers from a team that when you don't have your guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's got to contribute. You can't beat yourself, and that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing. So but yeah, two and four, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're gonna always have to like go back to what
Speaker 1: the Celtics did last year all season long. Whoever starts poorly,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go. Yeah, but Boston they turned
Speaker 1: it around. But Boston, so you know, it's not over.
Speaker 1: But it's also a loaded Western Conference and at a
Speaker 1: certain point you're gonna get too far hind where you're
Speaker 1: gonna hurt your chances of seating being on the road,
Speaker 1: going through the Juggernauts and like making it very very
Speaker 1: difficult to then go to a to a finals. And
Speaker 1: that's they're like, that's what they want here. It's not
Speaker 1: win a first round. Oh yeah, it's a disappointment at
Speaker 1: this point. It's it's it's really to be a finalist,
Speaker 1: if not win the title. So man, I'm not making
Speaker 1: it easy with this pretty piss poor start here. I'm
Speaker 1: a little worried maybe the twenty tens are just over finally.
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron at the bottom of the standings, Clippers
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the standings, Kevin Durant at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the standings with the Nets. All the best
Speaker 1: players from the twenty tens, wow, are on bad teams,
Speaker 1: and all the best players from the twenty twenties are
Speaker 1: on the best teams. We're old guys.
Speaker 7: He's happening in the NFL as well. Tom Brady sucks,
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers sucks, Russell Wilson sucks.
Speaker 1: Jesus. I guess this is growing up. That's my Halloween costume,
Speaker 1: old guy, old, old, dilapidated muscles.
Speaker 5: And that's the difference between the Boston Celtics of last
Speaker 5: year and the Clippers of this year. The best players
Speaker 5: are old. The Celtics were not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 5: The Celtics are kind of a veteran team this year
Speaker 5: with Brogden and Horford, and they've got some older guys.
Speaker 5: I think they're seventh oldest team, while the Clippers are
Speaker 5: the fourth oldest team and their lead guys just haven't
Speaker 5: played enough. The scary part is quiet. It all comes
Speaker 5: down to Kawhi. If he's injured, then this team, the
Speaker 5: ceiling is y, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to bring up this game because Zion
Speaker 1: Williamson came back. Oh yeah, that's exciting.
Speaker 7: Twenty one points, twelve rebounds, seven assists. Loved the seven
Speaker 7: assists because my man was setting the table. Looked like
Speaker 7: he hadn't missed a day and he probably would have
Speaker 7: finished with a triple double if he actually got to
Speaker 7: play at the end of the game instead of the
Speaker 7: massive blowout that the Pelicans pulled off.
Speaker 1: Do we know if the Pelicans play on Christmas? Because
Speaker 1: I have an idea that the NBA. Oh they don't
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, I just checked m I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: and I've said this before, if they did, even if
Speaker 1: they don't, just do it. Whenever NBA rig the net,
Speaker 1: have a break, let sy and bring it down. Shacks foul.
Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm serious. Somebody get in there tinker with
Speaker 1: a bolt. Did you see a couple of those dunks
Speaker 1: you have the thing rocking? Yeah, they're they're too strong,
Speaker 1: these nets. Now, you can't really bring them down. I
Speaker 1: don't think Shack could. But uh, you know, put an
Speaker 1: old one in there, like loosen something. Bring it down people. Nuts.
Speaker 1: Bible of Nuts would be awesome on Christmas. I was thinking, man,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to counter the NFL. This year, you
Speaker 1: get Zion bringing down the net. People are gonna be
Speaker 1: flipping over, what the hell does happened?
Speaker 7: Yeah, just an idea, that's that's a very good idea.
Speaker 1: I just want to see somebody bring it down. It
Speaker 1: should be him. I haven't looked like the schedule.
Speaker 7: I'm guessing it looks way worse now that the season
Speaker 7: has started.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to go through it yesterday
Speaker 5: and I totally forget. I didn't know it off the
Speaker 5: top of my head. But Zion could bring it, could
Speaker 5: could bring it back. But they didn't trust enough for
Speaker 5: Zion to be healthy.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: So what do we got here?
Speaker 7: Tre seventy six Ers Nicks? Yeah, still good, Still good matchup.
Speaker 7: I think Lakers Mavericks. That one's gonna come down to
Speaker 7: a look ad game winner. Will he make it or
Speaker 7: really miss it? He's missed every single one so far
Speaker 7: this season. But let's keep tracking that Buck Celtics Classic
Speaker 7: Grizzlies Warriors. Okay, it could be a block Grizzlies at
Speaker 7: this point and Son's Nuggets.
Speaker 1: A classic lame Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, it's not brutal
Speaker 1: though it's not brutal it's not brutal. We got no nets.
Speaker 1: We got no nets. That's good.
Speaker 5: No Pelicans, I don't think. I think you've got a
Speaker 5: great idea. What the Oh, it's a great ad because
Speaker 5: I was watching the Clippers Pelicans game yesterday with with Danielle,
Speaker 5: and I said, that man is huge, pointing out I mean,
Speaker 5: he's the ninth wonder of the world in terms of
Speaker 5: a basketball body, sixty six to eighty two ninety whatever
Speaker 5: he is, it's it's lower than two ninety because the
Speaker 5: contract says it has to be. And she said, no,
Speaker 5: it's not. No, he's not that big. He's not that big.
Speaker 5: I said, he's not tall. He's not seven foot. She said, yeah,
Speaker 5: Shack's way bigger. But but but but he's wider, Danielle.
Speaker 1: To see you fire up some old Charles Barkley clips
Speaker 1: for her that daniel I don't think he don't cares.
Speaker 1: It's like six four zion size lead fast breaks and
Speaker 1: dunking over guys.
Speaker 5: Anyways, just break it backboard and I think daniel will
Speaker 5: appreciate it. Okay, yeah, but it's those backboards too. They
Speaker 5: won't shatter.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, but nor did Shacks. I mean he
Speaker 1: brought them down. First one. He just straight up brought
Speaker 1: down the second one. People think it was raged the hydraulics.
Speaker 1: Verym I want the first one. I want the one
Speaker 1: to collapse on Zion.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hope and he doesn't get injured. That would be bad.
Speaker 1: I should think this through.
Speaker 5: No, I think you could see. I was thinking shattering,
Speaker 5: and I thought he'd dun't it. Everyone would get out
Speaker 5: of the way and then you'd somehow break it so
Speaker 5: there'd be no glass on everybody. But then it takes
Speaker 5: forever to clean up, and then people would complain.
Speaker 1: Didn't Darvin Ham? Okay, I'll lose you the weekend. I
Speaker 1: want to get loser of the weekend to the collective
Speaker 1: bargaining negotiations already started. Here'sre's why. Okay. So Friday night,
Speaker 1: WOSE reports that the NBA is pursuing the implementation of
Speaker 1: an upper spending limit in its negotiations on the new
Speaker 1: CBA with the Players Association.
Speaker 5: Tell me what that means?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, first off, surprise surprise. What was also
Speaker 1: says this change has been met with significant union resistance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm calling it a loser, because
Speaker 1: this is going to be this is a non starter
Speaker 1: in discussion. So this is what you do when you
Speaker 1: start negotiating. When we have to negotiate with the athletic
Speaker 1: coming up, we'll ask for ten million to start with.
Speaker 1: You know, you start crazy high and say we're not
Speaker 1: doing that. Okay, okay, and then you get to negotiating.
Speaker 1: But this, I'll explain it for your task. It's basically
Speaker 1: in the wake of like these large market contenders, your warriors,
Speaker 1: your nets, your clippers, running up these massive payrolls, running
Speaker 1: up these massive luxury tax penalties, and that the NBA
Speaker 1: is proposing a system that will replace the luxury tax
Speaker 1: with a hard limit that you could not exceed payceof
Speaker 1: NFL style, I have a heart hard cap. Of course,
Speaker 1: a union, a player assction would be against this because
Speaker 1: then it's like, what do you mean now you're limiting
Speaker 1: what we can make in theory. So that's why this
Speaker 1: is not even going to be a discussion. But you know,
Speaker 1: it gets all the headlines. People anna start talking about it,
Speaker 1: but it's just I say it's a loser because it's
Speaker 1: just like it's almost a slick move by the NBA.
Speaker 1: They throw this out there and then what does this mean.
Speaker 1: They're actually going to be really trying to get in
Speaker 1: the in the upcoming collective bargaining agreement. So yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna see this.
Speaker 7: Okay, you no, No, The NBA already makes more money
Speaker 7: from basketball than the players. Do you think there's going
Speaker 7: to be a hard limit?
Speaker 1: You think the union fighting? Probably not?
Speaker 7: Probably not on this CBA, but obviously that's what they
Speaker 7: want and that's what they're gonna be going for long term.
Speaker 1: NFL does have a hard cap.
Speaker 5: That I m b A.
Speaker 7: They make more money than the NBA. They're a bigger
Speaker 7: league than the NBA, and they have more.
Speaker 1: Parody and their union sucks, but their league is great.
Speaker 1: Well I mean yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7: If you want basketball to be the biggest sport in
Speaker 7: the world, maybe you should.
Speaker 1: Copy the NFL a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't think it's gonna happen either, But uh, to me,
Speaker 7: this is a bad omen for CBA negotiations. If they're
Speaker 7: asking for something that is this big of a deal,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be a fight on their hands.
Speaker 1: Oh. I mean, people are trying to pretend there won't be.
Speaker 1: We've been saying this for a while. You can go
Speaker 1: back and listen to the podcast this is going there's
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't want to be all gloom
Speaker 1: and dread here. Maybe it's because it's Halloween, Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not gonna go well, one hundred percent agree
Speaker 1: with you, Trey, Like this is. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fighting over this collective argument agreement. And you
Speaker 1: know they're they're trying to work in an agreement before
Speaker 1: the December fifteenth deadline that each side has to give
Speaker 1: notice to opt out of the current one. But it
Speaker 1: expires after twenty twenty three, twenty four, this seven year deal.
Speaker 1: I think we're unfortunately headed towards you know whatever. Another
Speaker 1: sort of lockout potential was definitely possible. Yeah, Okay, final
Speaker 1: one here, Trey, What do you got three options for
Speaker 1: worst loss of the weekend? Him me?
Speaker 7: Saturday, the MAVs lose to the thunder Task mentioned it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: the MAVs had a sixteen point lead with four minutes
Speaker 7: and fourteen seconds left. Tim McMahon of ESPN had the
Speaker 7: stat that NBA teams were nine nine hundred and seventy
Speaker 7: five and one when leading by sixteen or more points
Speaker 7: in the final four minutes now nine and seventy five
Speaker 7: and two. Dantis missed the game winner in that game,
Speaker 7: lost in overtime. Another candidate for worst loss of the weekend. Sunday,
Speaker 7: the Nuggets lose to the Lakers. They lost to the Lakers,
Speaker 7: and they gave up one hundred and twenty one points.
Speaker 7: That's a lot of points to give up to the
Speaker 7: Lakers team their first win. Five Nuggets scored in double
Speaker 7: digits but did not matter. A near triple double for Westbrook.
Speaker 7: Crazy yeah, and then two bad Warriors losses. They were
Speaker 7: beat handily by the Pistons yesterday. Gave up a ton
Speaker 7: of points one hundred and twenty eight to the Pistons.
Speaker 7: But I'm more concerned with the ot loss Saturday to
Speaker 7: the Hornets. No starting backcourt for the Hornets. And this
Speaker 7: one makes the cut for me because it eliminated me
Speaker 7: from our run.
Speaker 1: Your pools game. Oh no versus Hornets. This is an
Speaker 1: easy one.
Speaker 7: No LaMelo, no, no Trey anymore. I mean this says
Speaker 7: week two, it's really week one. Yeah, and I'm done. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 7: I saw I checked the pool this morning. I think
Speaker 7: you're alive, task yeah, alive, But almost half the people
Speaker 7: are already done, so you're not alone.
Speaker 1: Tray now some products to make a pick. I think
Speaker 1: two hundred plus people forgot to make a pick, so
Speaker 1: that's on them. But yeah, it's already we already cut
Speaker 1: this pool in half, just like that.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good for us.
Speaker 5: But yeah, which one when the pool? When the pool started,
Speaker 5: I thought this is gonna be pretty easy. You know,
Speaker 5: you're not picking points, but you're just literally picking the
Speaker 5: winner of the basketball game. You never known the National
Speaker 5: Basketball Association some of the easiest games.
Speaker 1: Well, who did you pick this last week?
Speaker 5: I picked the Wolves to beat the Spur the first Yeah,
Speaker 5: well second game, right, yes?
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 5: Got it first? Yes, yes, you're right, right, it was
Speaker 5: the second game. Nice picky, man, great pick? Yeah? Sorry man, yeah, JD.
Speaker 5: You're still in it?
Speaker 4: Am I still in the survivor pool? Yeah? Man, I'm
Speaker 4: like number thirty.
Speaker 1: No, not that actual survival, not the reality. You didn't
Speaker 1: make a pick in our NBA Survivor pool.
Speaker 4: I forgot you even joined the thing.
Speaker 5: I saw.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can still join, right, No, no, you can't.
Speaker 5: Not Week three. Anyways, I saw you rigging up your
Speaker 5: mic there. I thought you're getting ready to go I
Speaker 5: thought you're ready to talk about the basketball pool. But
Speaker 5: I do agree with Trey. The Hornets one was worse
Speaker 5: because of the way the Warriors looked at the end
Speaker 5: of this game. It was unwarrior like. At the end
Speaker 5: of regulation, Steph tried to hit a real hero ball shot,
Speaker 5: maybe because he was back home in Charlotte, he said
Speaker 5: a postgame, But they didn't look crisp. They didn't know
Speaker 5: what they were sort of running at the end of
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, and that's Unwarriors like. They just weren't
Speaker 5: on the right spots on the floor that you could
Speaker 5: see there hesitating with their passes. This didn't happen at
Speaker 5: the beginning of last year when they rolled to an
Speaker 5: NBA championship. They were cooking for a long stretch to
Speaker 5: start the season. So there's something going on there with
Speaker 5: the Warriors. Opening night they roll, we think, oh, they're back,
Speaker 5: but you know, they lost to Phoenix when I think
Speaker 5: they looked on the other side of the floor and
Speaker 5: they saw a Phoenix team that was, you know, playing really,
Speaker 5: really well, and maybe they thought to themselves, we're not
Speaker 5: We're not as good as the Phoenix Suns right now.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, they lose the to the Hornets where
Speaker 5: you know they weren't themselves. And then the Pistons game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was they just got run off the floor really
Speaker 5: against the Pistons.
Speaker 1: That was a tough pick. Taking the Warriors in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: They never win there. I just did some fact checking here,
Speaker 1: and at least the last four seasons they've lost that
Speaker 1: game when Curry makes his return there in Charlotte.
Speaker 7: You're saying I should have done some research research, Hey,
Speaker 7: blew it, But all right.
Speaker 1: That's all right.
Speaker 7: The second game I was considering was Warriors at Pistons. Okay,
Speaker 7: so if I would have actually done researching about oh
Speaker 7: they always lives to the Hornets Pistons, it is lost
Speaker 7: by more.
Speaker 1: Hey, let us know in the stream team are you
Speaker 1: still alive or if you're out, which team did you in?
Speaker 1: Was it the Warriors in one of those games with
Speaker 1: somebody else? Let us know. We gotta take one more
Speaker 1: break when we come back. Pick a results from Friday
Speaker 1: night and tweet of the night. And the suit looked sharp,
Speaker 1: very sha saw the photos both from you and your
Speaker 1: wife blasting some grams, and uh, I thought he looked
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know it's Uh, it's great.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 6: Uh he looked right next to his date, who has
Speaker 6: sort of some like burgundy.
Speaker 4: In her dress.
Speaker 1: They planned that.
Speaker 4: I think it was planned. Yeah, yeah, a little pocket
Speaker 4: square two.
Speaker 1: I loved. Uh the I guess the set of photos
Speaker 1: where he is dipping her his date and then she
Speaker 1: is dipping him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very funny.
Speaker 6: He was literally holding himself up using using his abs
Speaker 6: or whatever else he used for that.
Speaker 4: I could never do that. But yeah, great o to
Speaker 4: be young and in shape.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, we're just old farts now picker results
Speaker 1: from Friday. Oh yeah, this guy's a ru jacked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jesus clear the abs hotly you got like.
Speaker 7: I was working out hard summer summer twenty twenty one,
Speaker 7: fighting lean. You know, I said, Laura, just one of
Speaker 7: those guys will never have abs.
Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you you a straight nude under that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'll hear it. Yeah, I know how
Speaker 1: warmer coldness was gonna be. And honestly, I'll say this
Speaker 1: is unisex. There a fine characteristics in the groinal region.
Speaker 1: It's not sacks under it.
Speaker 7: Well, promo code, no ducks. I am wearing a pair
Speaker 7: of SATs.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I'm parked in the pouch, but I was
Speaker 1: hoping to keep it a little tape. I love the
Speaker 1: clothest part of it.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of photoshops man on.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it looks so creepy. Yeah, the face
Speaker 1: looks pretty good when it's the right way. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Will it be too weird to cut out
Speaker 1: the eyes just so I can actually see. It's probably
Speaker 1: be a lot safer walking around sort of foggy out
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta today to Spooky night for Halloween. But
Speaker 1: that looks amazing. Oh, Trey Curry the Spirit Halloween meme.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of beefred percent beef. This is Hey,
Speaker 1: what are the man? What are the weekend of him?
Speaker 1: Always okay, picker results, that's why we're hearing the music.
Speaker 1: Friday Night's game Nick's in Milwaukee. Bocks were only favored
Speaker 1: by six and a half, and they took care of business.
Speaker 1: They got it done. Victory for Trey and I. We
Speaker 1: improved a four and five test, took the next to cover,
Speaker 1: so that loss puts you to six and three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're pretty close. We are, although well we never did.
Speaker 1: Are we calling? Are we resetting in November because it's
Speaker 1: the final night, so you've already won.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Okay, Well, congratulations you want Okay, I
Speaker 5: guess I think I got you.
Speaker 1: What we reset it. It used to be a short
Speaker 1: month in October. Now we got like two weeks of games. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 5: That's pretty long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're ten games here after tonight. So what's tonight's game.
Speaker 5: Let's off, let's finish it off here. We've got a
Speaker 5: Wraps Hawks game in Toronto. We're gonna skip that one.
Speaker 5: We also have Memphis, Utah. I think that's gonna be
Speaker 5: a fun one. We'll skip that one though, because I
Speaker 5: saw Indian Brooklyn on the schedule and I thought it
Speaker 5: was a tough game considering what happened on Saturday where
Speaker 5: the Pacers took care of Brooklyn. The Nets are eight
Speaker 5: and a half point favorites. That's a big line. So
Speaker 5: that's why you guys jumped on. The Pacers just got
Speaker 5: to lose by eight or less. How the heck do
Speaker 5: you have faith in this Brooklyn team? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I took him because you guys
Speaker 5: took the Pacers, and we've got this rule in house no,
Speaker 5: one can't. We can't all take the same team.
Speaker 1: Well, you did something very kind this morning. I saw
Speaker 1: you picked the game, you put it in the dock,
Speaker 1: but you did not make your selection.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very nicely.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 5: I also picked the Knicks on Friday. That was kind
Speaker 5: of me. I was gonna lose. I knew I was
Speaker 5: gonna lose.
Speaker 1: You knew you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5: But anyways, I don't mind finishing with two straight losses
Speaker 5: because I'm winning. So I don't know what this Brooklyn,
Speaker 5: that team they could win. I'm betting more on the
Speaker 5: Pacers not being great again. Yeah, because they're the Pacers.
Speaker 1: We'll see. Let's get to tweet in the night.
Speaker 5: Tweet out the night, Wow, tweeted.
Speaker 1: The night more so tweeted the weekend.
Speaker 7: If I'm being quite honest, because the footage comes from
Speaker 7: calvs Celtics Friday night, when at Sports Boy Tony, notice
Speaker 7: that Luke Cornett invented a new way of defending the ribs.
Speaker 7: A guy taking a corner three I think it's a
Speaker 7: core out and Luke Cornett is jumping in the lane
Speaker 7: and putting his hands up, you know, ten feet high
Speaker 7: or something like that, trying to take a coro's.
Speaker 1: Eyes off what he's shooting at the Athletics.
Speaker 7: J King followed up with Cornett after the game and
Speaker 7: he said, Luke Cornett said that he's been told this
Speaker 7: jumping style works, said if the numbers start to show otherwise,
Speaker 7: he'll adjust, But players have told him this makes an impact.
Speaker 1: Cornett said, we're visually dependent people.
Speaker 7: So yeah, okay, does this work?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, even if that is true, that the issue
Speaker 1: I see as the seven footer on the team is
Speaker 1: now you are, and you saw it in the second clip,
Speaker 1: you are in no position to go get a rebound.
Speaker 1: So I guess on one end, yeah, good for you.
Speaker 1: The guy missed the shot, but like, what about getting
Speaker 1: the ball back? So turns his back on this guy
Speaker 1: on the court to I guess that that second shot
Speaker 1: went over the rim, right, so there was no rebound
Speaker 1: to be had. But wild, I mean, it's almost Do
Speaker 1: you remember Jose Calderon in his clap defense. He used
Speaker 1: to be a big like, like thirty feet away from
Speaker 1: the guy he was alway, Jose was always clapping. I
Speaker 1: don't think it ever worked. You see it, You see
Speaker 1: it in the odd pickup run. You know, every once
Speaker 1: in a while, so he just doesn't clapper.
Speaker 5: He clapped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I love brownies. Similar show the nips,
Speaker 1: be tough in that. Yeah, do that? This works? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been to check the numbers. But visually dependent people.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna keep doing it, doesn't shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about Luke here? No next
Speaker 1: galaxy brain thinking.
Speaker 5: I think Trey's muscle costume is way more effective than
Speaker 5: lou Cornet. It's one of those things you see on
Speaker 5: Twitter and you see it happen the first time, you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: that really works. He blocked his line of sight. Then
Speaker 5: you look at it, there's no way he blocked the
Speaker 5: guy's line of hear from a kor Yeah, did you
Speaker 5: notice that? Yeah? I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1: We got one more? Can I piggyback off that tweet?
Speaker 1: Do you mind? Muscleman? Go for it? Okay, I need to.
Speaker 1: You can't zip to see what the tweet is real?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, let me tell you muscle Man can piggyback in.
Speaker 1: J D I did you go sound up on it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, Molly Morrison tweeted absolutely obsessed with Grant Williams
Speaker 1: showing up to tonight's game wearing a Halloween costume, playing
Speaker 1: the game, and then putting the costume back on after
Speaker 1: so he could do his entire postgame presser in character.
Speaker 1: And here's a small club.
Speaker 3: He doesn't shot make sure that the entire team is
Speaker 3: locked in for us, not for us to be special,
Speaker 3: we have to stay locked in in all hours, not in,
Speaker 3: not out.
Speaker 6: Defensively, what was different?
Speaker 3: Best part about his team that we take care of
Speaker 3: each other defensively, that's all we can accomplish it.
Speaker 1: So that statum coming in the background asking what the
Speaker 1: hell Grant Williams is doing? And for those just listening,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could tell did you know
Speaker 1: that was a Batman impersonation?
Speaker 5: That was all right?
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if you only could hear it, would
Speaker 1: you know he was dressed as Batman?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He needs more rage, more rage, more rage. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think too nice. He's very whispery. He never heard Batman?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Where's so the Celtics coming through with tweets of the
Speaker 1: Nights last weekend? You love to see it.
Speaker 5: I just love how the narrative wasn't Grant Williams such
Speaker 5: a loser for dressing up because it's the Twitter narrative
Speaker 5: could have gone that way. I was wondering, where is
Speaker 5: it gonna be a love hate thing?
Speaker 1: Isn't that? Yeah, he does call himself batman.
Speaker 5: He called him God. I didn't want to know that
Speaker 5: he does.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he does. It's not a basketball reference.
Speaker 1: It's just the general He does it all in character, though,
Speaker 1: which is the cool part. Yeah, well, let's call it there, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us live here, fun
Speaker 1: Monday Podcast. Let's hear your winners and losers of the
Speaker 1: NBA weekend. We're back tomorrow live at ten a m
Speaker 1: Eastern here in the Classic Factory. Everybody, have a safe
Speaker 1: and happy Halloween tonight. Uh hope you get all the
Speaker 1: candy in the world. Are you going to bring in
Speaker 1: any for me here? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did get Oh yeah, we ain't getting anybody tonight.
Speaker 6: So we've got chips and all certain like thousands of pieces.
Speaker 1: Of You're on a dead end street hill, Yeah, nobody
Speaker 1: can waste their time.
Speaker 6: He had three people knock on the door last year.
Speaker 6: One of them was like a bunch of kids in
Speaker 6: a pickup track. That was the only people coming down here.
Speaker 1: That next level.
Speaker 7: Pretty much crazy.
Speaker 5: That's crazy that no one would come. Just like you say,
Speaker 5: you're in a bat spot. What better thing do kids
Speaker 5: have to do every house?
Speaker 1: That's a good point. You got to optimize a little bit, though.
Speaker 1: God their children.
Speaker 7: I was with.
Speaker 5: Children and we went everywhere.
Speaker 1: You're you're your daughter, she loves Halloween.
Speaker 5: We went. We went to a house that was given
Speaker 5: out the full chocolate bars.
Speaker 1: Wow, neighborhood.
Speaker 5: We were with it. Well, that was the only one
Speaker 5: in the neighborhood. I was a little surprised. We were
Speaker 5: with another child who double dip took two full chocolate bars.
Speaker 5: My kid did not do that. It was it was
Speaker 5: It was just a bowl with full sized chocolate bars.
Speaker 5: Kid took her She's and the twigs. My daughter wouldn't.
Speaker 5: She took a two copper of the Reese's pieces. She said, remember, Dad,
Speaker 5: we went to that basketball game. We shared this Reese's pieces.
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, we went to that w NBA game
Speaker 5: and we shared it. We hugged and I said, don't
Speaker 5: be like that kid. Bars.
Speaker 1: Are there any coffee crisps floating around down here in
Speaker 1: the States or just never seen that?
Speaker 4: Sometimes Public's has them really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, hey, tweet at us if you
Speaker 1: get a coffee crisp tonight, either in Canada or here
Speaker 1: in the States at no dunk Saint Guy's on the end,
Speaker 1: or hey, just personally tweet at me.
Speaker 5: Edgeford Beford has them all the time.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, have a safe and happy Halloween. We'll
Speaker 1: see tomorrow. Clipper bro you heard it here first. Have
Speaker 1: a great time turn up. Love you guys awesome.
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. And something I didn't do is
Speaker 5: remember because actually over the weekend I thought to myself, oh,
Speaker 5: I got a good line for Monday's show at the end.
Speaker 5: I should write it down. Didn't write it down, and
Speaker 5: I thought i'd remember it, but I don't. So, uh, Trey,
Speaker 5: you got any wise words? Considering you're gonna cost you.
Speaker 5: I'm throwing you. I'm just throwing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, costumes make you smarter, thinking man. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us. And remember the brain is the strongest muscle. Braced,
Speaker 1: I look at throwing camera.
Speaker 5: Where we can edit that