1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Man, the way get it. We used to get into 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: it all the time. See to think about the mom 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,039 Speaker 1: head what people think that it's like, it's like crazy 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: and wow, it's like no man, I said, regular day 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: and our practices and in our locker room. The thing 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: we believe in is out of our communication. We don't 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: believe in walking around looking at the ground, mamba. And 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: if you've got something to say that somebody said, we 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: got a minute and a half in the time I 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: get to a solution. We ain't got time for that 11 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: wine and got time for that complaining turin your grass up. 12 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Say what you got to say so we can get 13 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: on to the next ye'all know who we're talking about. Hey, 14 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: got you Donna's hassl them on the podcast. Ye'all remember 15 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: that Miami heat that time when they had did sit 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: back relaxed. We gotta pay some bills. On the other 17 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: side of the break, we welcome our special guests. You 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Donna's hassle them to naked. Every champion and every champion 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: is to be a champion out of chat a being 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: and carry champion and carry champion a champion and carry 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: chappion and carry champion rates rates and sports and entertaining, 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: can naked weird in the world were vulnerable considered, we 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: come and remove the vail from entertainments the league. It's 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: a difference between what it's real and with the public seats. 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: So here's your favorite celebrities behind the scenes. It's refreshing up. 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Then the whole story specific life ought to rennivents, to 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: shake the person that you can. We gotta champion and 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: carry champion and girl, you didn't. It's the greatest in 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: sports and entertainment connaked with every champion they carry champions. 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: To be a champion, a champion, they carry champion. They 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: can Chappy Kota Champion, they carry champion, they carry champion. 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Rate and freider and sports and entertaining and naked wier. 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: There are certain accomplishments in life that you wish to have, 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: um especially in your career. If you can say that 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: I made it to the league, whatever professional league it 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: may be. In sports, that's an accomplishment. If you play 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: and you managed to play past one, two, three years, 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: that too is an accomplishment. But if you can get 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: up there and have five fifteen years under your belt, 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: you've really done it. If you want a chip in 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: your respective league you've done. But what about this? What 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: does a nineteen year veteran in the NBA look like. 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: I can count on one hand how many that I 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: know off the top, but over the years it hasn't 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: been that many. In fact, there's been very few. And 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: today we have one of which on the podcast You're Down, 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Hiss Hasslem, power forward for the Miami Heat. Been playing 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: there all his life, the city that raised him while 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: all of his professional life here in the States he 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: was undrafted, and the city that made him ultimately watched 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: him grow up on and off the court, and it 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: is something special. So on today's podcast I talked to 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: him about what does it mean to be you dons 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: hassle um in this league, in that locker room, for 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: that team and for that city. And the truth be told, 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: before I ever met him, there is this mystery that' 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: surrounds him. M hm. The rumor has it that you 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: d will get at you if need be right. Translation, 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you run up, you get done up. 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: Is that what the kids say? If you're talking to 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: you might get hit kids, you know, whatever they say. 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: My point is he's known for taking care of business 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: and he doesn't necessarily talk about that per se, but 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen him play, if you've ever seen 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: him interact with his teammates, you get it. You know 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: what you do, will do, or can do or has done. 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Most recently made a little bit of news when he 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: and his teammate Jimmy Butler got into it. We talked 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: about that. I've also had to inquire about these legendary 70 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: stories of where I hear he and d Wade got 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: into it. He'd have to talk, if you will, strongly 72 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: to some of the players in the locker room and 73 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: ultimately ask him what he considers himself, how he feels 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: he's moving through that city, what he's given back, and 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: who he is as a man. And it is really special. 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: It's a good podcast, and it's not so much about 77 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the tea of it all, it's about the man of 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: it all. Judona's Hasslam is really truly special, and I 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: think every locker room and every league needs themselves a 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: u D if you will, so sit back, relax and 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: get into the podcast where my friend gets right to it. 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Judona's hasslm um NBA Champion. You have a very interesting story, 83 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: like like like a lot of people, but yours is 84 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: one that I think makes most people respect you when 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: they here about where you come from and what you've 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: been able to do it just you stop and say, 87 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: there's a different type of respect. Maybe it's more of 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: a street credibility that I like that I am familiar 89 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: with and I understand. So you grew up in where exactly? 90 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get the area correct. 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't want no problems. I was born and raised 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: in Liberty City, So I was born in north Shore 93 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Hospital in nineteen eight, nineteen eight, which is in Livery City. 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: UM nor Share is still here, but if you google 95 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: nor Share Hospital, they probably got like two point one 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: ratings or something like that. Anybody going there now, anybody 97 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: going in now for sure? So you you're no stranger 98 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: to UM in the league, if anyone has has watched 99 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: you play, or if they know your personality. I remember 100 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: when um I was in Miami and they you don't 101 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: mess what you did, like you just don't do it. 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: What does that reputation come from where people know that 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: you don't play? Is it because of where you grew 104 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: up or is it because of how you handle yourself 105 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: in the locker? Room. I mean they probably started in 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: high school. So I went to Miami Hi. If you 107 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: know anything about Momie him, you know it's a real, 108 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: real Prestigiou High school down here. Um, we won a 109 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of state championships, the most state championships in the 110 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: state of Florida. And I played for Frank Martin. Um, 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: who was my high school coach, is now the coach 112 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: at you mask was at South Carolina. UM before him 113 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: was the great Shaky Ro Drink Gas. So if anybody 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: know about Shaky Ro Drink Gas, you got to go 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: back to Willie and South. You know what I'm saying. 116 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: If you know Willie and South all the way back 117 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: to the Cocaine Cowboys. So if you watch Cocaine Cowboys too, 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: you'll listen to Willie and South talked about how they 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: gave money to the Miami High basketball program. So I 120 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: was a part of that program where we were kind 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: of funded do a lot of different things. Um, and 122 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: it was little you guys were funded. Um, I don't know. 123 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: You watched you gotta watch the Dog, you gotta watch 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the Okay, Yeah, I get it. It was a lot 125 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: of It was a lot of different kids from a 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: lot of different areas. We had over town, we had 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: differty city, UM, and then all those kids came together. 128 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: But with the school was in the middle of a 129 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: little event, you know what I'm saying. So we had, 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of human games, a lot of 131 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: different things. So it was a lot of different associations 132 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: that my UM. So you you know what me stick 133 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: with your boys and watch each other back and take 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: k each other. I can translate and you can. You 135 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: can agree or disagree. So you had people looking out 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: for you that were that were well known, UM, that 137 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of street credibility, and while you were 138 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: doing the right thing, they were taking care of you 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah, yeah, hi association. People know no better. Yeah, 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: they won't try They wouldn't would they wouldn't try to 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: oscar moment you There will be will moments for you. No, no, no, 142 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't play like that. That was very unfortunate. That 143 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: was very upfortunate. Don't play them type of games. For me, 144 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: it was I hung out with older kids, all my 145 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: homeboys always older. So when the first thing would tell 146 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: me if I did want to get my hand dirty man, 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: get on out of here, and this ain't this ain't 148 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: for you the same what you do? Um? And my 149 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: high school was spared out a lot of prose. You think, 150 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: but Andre Johnson, UM, Who's gonna probably be a Hall 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: of Famous for Houston, Teyson's Rosco Parish. I mean this 152 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: goes only know man, all the guys that came out 153 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: of my high school with anybody tell you that came 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: out of the high if you had a chance to 155 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: make it what I'm saying the other dudes, make sure 156 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: you stay straight. But with that, you you go to college. 157 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I was in Gainesville the other day. You went to 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: college there? Yeah? And I thought. And when I was 159 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: at the University of Florida, I was training for a 160 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: story that I was shooting with with Natalie Hines because 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the Olympic swimmers trained there and she yeah, 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: and she's one of four black female Olympians and swimming 163 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: and so she trains there. So I went there. But 164 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought to myself was what the 165 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: hell do you do here? So you coming from Liberty 166 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: City up to Gainesville? Was that a culture shock? Described 167 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: the environment you leave to go to play basketball? So 168 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: so I did that on purpose. My thought processes, I 169 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: need to get as far away from Miami as I can, 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: but still stay in the state of Florida. So I 171 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: had opportunities to go to the University of Miami, opportunities 172 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: go to Florida State. I had those opportunities. Um, but 173 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I needed to get out of my aim. But I 174 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to go to where Cole. I don't want 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: to go nowhere where snow. You know what I'm saying. 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm still a Florida boys. So the affiliation with the 177 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: University of Florida was Anthony Grant, who was now the 178 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: head coach at University of Date. Anthony Grant went to Miami. 179 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: How just like me. Anthony Grant also from Overtown. So 180 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm from Liberty City. Anthony Graph from Overtown. So if 181 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: you know anything about my am, Activity City, Overtown, two 182 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: of the most popular in the city neighborhoods and my am. 183 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: So Anthony Grant was somebody who I trusted because he 184 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: was from where I was from. He spoke the same language. 185 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: So I knew that I could come from the Liberty 186 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: City and go to games. They don't even do it 187 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: what many people like me. I knew I could relate 188 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: to this through and this brother because he came from 189 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: where I came from. Well, the importance of because we 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: see so many talented kids when they get to college 191 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: and they can't make it because they don't understand the environment. 192 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: How important was that for you to have somebody who 193 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: who was from the neighborhood. It was extremely important because 194 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: I thought everybody when I got to college, I couldn't 195 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: believe like I thought everybody had seen crackheads. I thought 196 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: everybody had seen drug dealers, and like when I got 197 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: the and I was like, wait, like, you ain't never 198 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: really like you ain't seen this and that. And then 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I realized, like, you know what I'm saying, that really 200 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the norm. You know what I mean? I thought 201 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: it was, you know what I mean, because that's what 202 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: I saw every day. And then when I started getting 203 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: around other people in college with white people, I guess 204 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe i'ma be honest white people. When I started around 205 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: white people and I'd be like wait a minute, like 206 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: and they'd be like, I'll be like like every day 207 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: like so actually it was it was a shot because 208 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: then I started to realize, like, you know what I'm saying, 209 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: the things that I thought. I started to normalize. You 210 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It wasn't normal. You then have 211 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: been able to take both these worlds and really beautifully, 212 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion, handled them because some people who aren't, 213 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: who can't, they just can't leave the neighborhood behind. We 214 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: saw it with so many great athletes. We saw it 215 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: with Mike Vick. He was trying to take care of 216 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: his boys and they didn't take care of him, and 217 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: he ended up in prison. And I'm glad as football 218 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: career wasn't totally derailed, but it changed how people viewed him, 219 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, and prob these sacks he could get now. 220 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: So you have been able to mesh both worlds together. However, 221 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: but I find interesting Um and I and I referenced 222 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: probably you've been in the league, as you've mentioned, nineteen years, 223 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: the bulk of that time with the Miami Heat, when 224 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: Lebron came there. There was a shift when he Chris 225 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Bosh and then obviously d Wait was already there, who 226 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: you are best friends with. There was a shift in 227 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: the culture. What was your role in the locker room 228 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: during that time? There was the Bron coming off of, 229 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: you know, the decision, and then you guys had this 230 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: huge press conference and not one, not dude, nothing. What 231 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: was the shift in that locker room? And how did 232 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: you come in? What was your role? But before I 233 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: answered that question, shout out my dog big because I did. 234 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: I get it. I got a chance to meet my 235 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: VIC a couple of years ago, and I actually talked 236 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: to him that you know what I'm saying. He kept 237 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: a one with me. You know what I'm saying. Real, 238 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: he real, real sharp brother. Um. He talked about the 239 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: mistakes he made, and he talked about how he was 240 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: able to bounce back. You know what I'm saying. He 241 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: was real rawing up, cut with you know what I'm saying. 242 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: So I learned a lot just from that conversation alone. 243 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: I talked to him not long ago. He's a great guy. 244 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right smart. Yeah, he keeping he keeping you 245 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He keep it like he ain't 246 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: cut no corners about what happened and how I went down. 247 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: So I really appreciated that. But you know, for me, 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: I've always considered myself to be the anchor, stabilizing. I 249 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: don't get too up, I don't get too down, Like 250 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying, I think emotional roller 251 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: coasters take more energy any damn thing, So I don't 252 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: look to get on him or riding. You know what 253 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I like to kind of stay even with it, 254 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for me, and when 255 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: I like it, I like to hold everything down. You know, 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: I gotta tattoo up an anchor. You know what I'm saying, 257 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: my neck and I really like, I really, I really 258 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: feel that. You know what I mean. When when I 259 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: was about to say custody is yeah, yeah, when ship 260 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: go left and ship go right, you know what I'm saying. 261 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: You know I'm always be right there in the middle. 262 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: You feel me and for me, I was always that guy. 263 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, no matter what my situation was. When I 264 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: was in the rotation, you know you could kind of 265 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: me to get that stock, get that rebound, do what 266 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: I would need to do. And if I was out 267 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: the rotation, you can still kind of me to be 268 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: stay ready until I needed to get you know what 269 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, to stay ready, So I have to get ready. Um, 270 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: We'll take a tech if I needed to too. You 271 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: know I'm about that too, do what I do. Let's 272 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: let's live there. The locker room stories are beautiful. There 273 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: are these Erman legends of how during that time you 274 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: have to grab some fools up and let them know 275 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: we could go. We could go if need be. Before 276 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: we go out there, who'd you have to just snatch up? 277 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: Did you have to snatch up every You never had 278 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: to snatch up the way right? Because he's not get it. 279 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: We used to get into it all the time. See 280 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: to think about the money here. What people think that 281 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it's like, it's like crazy and wow, it's like no man, 282 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: I said, that's a that's a regular day. And our 283 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: practices and in our locker room, the thing we believe 284 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: in is out of our communication. We don't believe in 285 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: walking around looking at the ground, mamba and if you 286 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: got something to say that somebody said, we got a 287 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: minute and a half in the time I get to 288 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: a solution. We ain't got time for that one and 289 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: got time for that complaining. Tell your grass up, say 290 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: what you got to say so we can get on 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: to the next And sometimes people don't. Sometimes people don't 292 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: like it. Sometimes people don't you know what I'm saying, 293 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: But I swear to God it's the best way to communicate, 294 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: and that's how I go. You know what I'm saying. 295 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: But you and I we're twins. I overstand that the 296 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: world does not operate like that. You know that, Like 297 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: like we want to just get get to it, say 298 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: how we feel, move on and get rid of your feelings. 299 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Don't be mad today, don't be sad today. I just 300 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: said what I said, Let's go. It does not work 301 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: that way. So back to my original question, who you 302 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: have to snatch out in the locker room? I mean, 303 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I ain't never had to get my hands on nobody 304 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: out of tip to get my hands on a few people. 305 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yah to go and talk 306 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: to you gotta. I'm telling you the stories where you 307 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: have to do that. Once with Braun, the story was 308 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: that you and d Way was like go after it. 309 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: The story was that Chris got on your nerves every 310 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: now and again and one time. These are all different 311 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: scores that I hear. One time you had to just say, 312 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: don't be a diva like you had to come at 313 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: them on some This is not Hollywood. I really had. 314 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure I had to humble the whole locker room 315 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the time. You know, what I'm saying, Um, 316 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: as far as the way we used to get into 317 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: it all the time. That's my boy. I love him 318 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: to death. So he was like brothers. I mean I 319 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: used to get it. I mean I complained about what 320 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: he wore on the Tuesday, like it was just whatever, whatever, 321 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: whatever I had, whatever I had to say to him, 322 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that like it was probably I 323 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: was mad at somebody else. I was gonna take it 324 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: out of his ass. He understood that, you know what 325 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's how that's how we wrote. You know 326 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We understood that we're taking a couple 327 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: of shots to each other, Braun, you know saying. For 328 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: me with Braun is more just you know what I'm saying, 329 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: being uh the moral guy. You know what I'm saying, 330 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: because a lot of the things that Braun took when 331 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: he came to Miami, he got he got handled the 332 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: wrong kind of way. So for me, I was always 333 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: way more sensitive to Brown's situation anybody else. You know 334 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because coming because coming to Miami took 335 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: a lot, you know what I'm saying. I felt like 336 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: he was coming to my seat, you know I'm saying, 337 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I'll protected, that I'm protecting him. 338 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: So I was a lot more sensitive to Bronze situation 339 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: than anybody, just because I understood, you know, I'm saying 340 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: the pressure he was under, the shots that I was 341 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: taking at him. Um, I could remember, like it was yesterday, 342 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: we was walking down the street in Boston. I think 343 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: it was coming from a restaurant. So we were just walking. 344 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: The fire was me the way Brown, couple of guys, 345 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: so a fan, yeas hey lebron So Brown looks over 346 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: and as he looks over, the fan just says fuck you. 347 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I said, and I said, funk 348 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: you back Brown, and he had to respond because I 349 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: was already on, Like I got you don't even worry 350 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: about it. But to me, at that point, I realized 351 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: the kind with this man gotta put up with, Like 352 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: just to walk down the street for somebody to say 353 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: that I couldn't do it couldn't be me. It could 354 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: be me. So at that so at that point, you 355 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, for me, I was probably way 356 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: more sensitive than to Bronze situation than anybody. You know, 357 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Chris never got on my nerves. Chris was just nice 358 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: and I felt like sometimes you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 359 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying, that's what you found. 360 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep listening, right, listen. 361 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Much respect to the to the career that Kevin Garnett 362 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: had and the success that he but the ship that 363 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: come out of his mouth sometimes I ain't got nothing 364 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: to do with basketball, and it's the most disrespectful ship 365 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: IVE ever heard in my life. So for me and 366 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: situations in the Boston Celtics series that had got really 367 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: hot and beat it, I just needed to Christian just 368 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: to step up one time and I would handle the restaurant. 369 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: But uh, they never really got to that point. Man. 370 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: But I just say, like I said, they're much respected 371 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: KG and everything you did, man, But they come out 372 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: of his mouth. Man, I couldn't. I couldn't go for that. YO. 373 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: When I tell you, when I hear you talk like this, 374 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: it brings me joy because I grew up on that, 375 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: like meet me and talk trash and go hard and 376 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: we're not friends and we're not gonna be best friends 377 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: because if you say something crazy, I'm gonna respect you 378 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: because you say something crazy. Look, you can get it. 379 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: That's just the rules. That was the rules of how 380 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: you play basketball. Back in the deck where we from 381 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: and where I grew up, the whole park of getting 382 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: it up. You out there trip act crazy all right? Nick, 383 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: keep talking that what they Okay? Keep talking, And five 384 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: minutes later when he come back, he ain't coming back 385 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: to talking no more. So we ain't even where I 386 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: grew up. We ain't even get into all that talking 387 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: like that because you know where that could go. That's already. 388 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: If you are ready to take it down, you better 389 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: shut up. That's it, Which is why I understand why 390 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: some people are saying Chris knows better. Like you say something, 391 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm going back to snap for five seconds, Like the 392 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: culture gets it. Like you say something, you are responsible 393 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: for everything that comes out of your mouth. You know, 394 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: that's just that's it. And I'm gonna respect you to 395 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: a certain point, but sometimes I'm not. Then you've crossed 396 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: the line. Um, And you say that about KG, I've 397 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: never not heard that. I heard that he talks the most, 398 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Like whatever he says drives you so insane, Like there 399 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: was that time where we heard all these rumors about 400 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: KGI talking trash and Carmelo, Carmelo waiting for him at 401 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: the bus. Remember he was waiting for him at the bus. Yeah, yeah, 402 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: it's real. It's really things. You can't say certain things. 403 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta be held accountable 404 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna always That's just gonna always do 405 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: so it helps me. It helps me not disrespect nobody 406 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: else too, because I understand that about what I see 407 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: my mom. So then there was a game not long ago, 408 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: oh lord, and my friend was trending. His name is 409 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: Judonna's Hasslom and my friend was getting into it with 410 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the teammate in the huddle. Teammate was talking to coach. 411 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: It looked as if my friend didn't like what teammate 412 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler said the coach or to whomever. I don't know, 413 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: if who, but whatever he said, you didn't like it 414 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and you took issue. Let me say this about Jimmy. 415 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Can I can I say this about Jimmy? Say this 416 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: about Jimmy. Love Jimmy to death. Man. Jimmy the only 417 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: person who got me drinking wine the way he got 418 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: me started, and when he left I stopped Jimmy got 419 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: me drinking wine. Jimmy has also opened up my countryside. 420 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: So and I spent a lot of time with Jimmy 421 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: and just like d Wading myself, brother's fight, but the wade, 422 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: I never really got to the point where we want 423 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: to knuckle up. Me and Jimmy got to the point 424 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: we want to knuckle up, you know what I'm saying. 425 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's that's brothers. And once again I 426 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: said everyday thing with Mike, um me and the way 427 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: used to custing, fuss and just leave it there, you 428 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And Jimmy took it a step further. 429 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: But it doesn't change the relationship. It doesn't change how 430 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: I feel about Jimmy. It doesn't change the goal of 431 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: winning the championship, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, 432 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: we believe in out of our communication down here. You 433 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you have something to say 434 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: to a man, you said to that man, you get 435 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: past it because holding on to it, mumbling with your 436 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: head down, it don't get nowhere. Um. So that was 437 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: a minute in thirty seconds that we had to say 438 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: what we had to say and get onto the solution. 439 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: What's that you didn't you both said, we both we 440 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: both said he did it. He started it because you 441 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: was about We both said we're gonna kick each other asks. 442 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a situation where, you know 443 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's up and down, you know what 444 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. The last couple of games, there's a lot 445 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: of frustration, a lot of tension. We're just trying to 446 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: get a solution on how to win. And UM, I 447 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: just wanted all of us to be on the same 448 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: page and as the captain, as the leader, you know 449 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, it was a situation where you know, 450 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: it could have gone either way. You know what I'm saying. 451 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: I could have been I could have been a little 452 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: more cool headed. Jimmy could have been a little more 453 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: cool headed. But I don't think either one of us 454 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: regret that situation because you look at the basketball we're 455 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: playing now and the type of men that Jimmy and 456 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: I are. You talking about two alpha males. I mean, 457 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: you put two alpha males in the room, some times, 458 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like boys in the Chinese shop, you 459 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But that doesn't mean that you're 460 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: not gonna get to, you know, the place you're trying 461 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: to get to. So I think that's even strengthen me 462 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: and jimmy relationship because a couple of days later he 463 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: was back drinking wine again, you know what I mean. 464 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: So things like that, you know what I'm saying, with 465 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: like minded people that understand the goal doesn't affect the relationship. 466 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: So you've got to like minded people that understand the goal, 467 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: so that didn't affect the fact that relationship won't perspect. 468 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it because it's it's the truth. 469 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't know very many people who can't shake it 470 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: off because you know, the television, the cameras, you you're 471 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: not aware of it, but then people make it more 472 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: than what it is. I immediate you can talk about 473 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: me because I'm like, wait, what happened? And people who 474 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: know you, you know, they're they're going to have a narrative. 475 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: But you're right. If you guys can handle it like 476 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: men and move on, it's easier. Let's talking about Let 477 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: me say that's real quick. The problem is people don't 478 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: understand the equity that that I bank with these guys. 479 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: When the cameras, you know, what I'm saying, don't just 480 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: show up to the gym and start cutting and fussing 481 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: that people. I cant it with these people. Spend time 482 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: with their families. I get to know them. I welcome 483 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: up to Miami in a way that nobody else does, 484 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when you come here, 485 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: you're coming into a brotherhood. You know I'm saying. It's 486 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: really a coach. You know what I'm saying. So I 487 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: earned it, right, You get a little frustrated, a little 488 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: upset sometimes. Did everybody know? I got everybody that's interested 489 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: that hard and to go to win, you know what 490 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So what they don't see behind the scenes 491 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: is a relationship that's being built, you know what I mean? 492 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: It interesting that that's the equity you put into that position, 493 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: your city, and into that team and into that franchise, 494 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: and they reward you. And as a result, and I 495 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: won't even say reward, they understand and your value you 496 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: reward them. But as a result, I like that. I 497 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: like it. I like that right because I'm not You're 498 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: not They're doing You're doing them a favor. Keeping the 499 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: temperament in the locker room, handling the young bucks and 500 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: telling them how it's supposed to be. And that is 501 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: so invaluable. When you look around the league and you 502 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: see vets that do what you do, are there many 503 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: of them? Can you name them? I mean, you know, Um, 504 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I really don't know, you know what I mean. I 505 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: only I only know what's going on down here in 506 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: Miami and we're just coaching with my guys, you know 507 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I know when a lot of 508 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: guys leave, you know, our coach and lead this locker room. Um, 509 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: they tell me how it's not like that in other places, 510 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and you know how they would love to come back 511 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: if they had the opportunity. You know. For me, I 512 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: genuinely care about these dudes. Man. You know what I'm saying. 513 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I tell them all the time, whether it's in Miami 514 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: or somewhere else, I just want you to get your 515 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: money and take your family. Bro. You know what I'm saying. 516 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: And when I say Bro, I'm talking about Bro. I 517 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: ain't all the time Bros, but a lot of the 518 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: time it is BRO. You know what I'm saying. I 519 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: understand it. There's a lot of times it's guys that 520 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 1: come from the same situation backgrounds me. And then when 521 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: you add the title undrafted, like I was talking about, 522 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: the whole different level of pressure. You know what I'm saying. 523 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: So if you look around the league, we got the 524 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: most undrafted guys in the NBA, So we got the 525 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: most guys on any team that I can relate to 526 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: and take two m So you know what I'm saying. 527 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: It's a different energy too when you're undrafted, more to prove. 528 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: It's the kind it's a kennel for real. It's a 529 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: kennel for real down here. You know what I'm saying. 530 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Every day we're trying to eat. You know what I'm saying. 531 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: It's it's trying as an opportunity to eat. You know 532 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The other undrafted dude understand that he 533 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: ain't got no slack. He can't slack off because there's 534 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: another undrivet to do weight for his play with it. 535 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: If you want to take your spot, boy, you know 536 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's how iron shopping is iron 537 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: down here, you know what I'm saying. And we even 538 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: got the superstars with go at them too. You know 539 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm I'm an undrafted guy who don't 540 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: even play no more nineteen years in the league, and 541 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: before every game, I'm upstairs playing one on one with Jimmy. 542 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: But you know I'm saying, hey, oh, nose up. You 543 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's that's how that's his 544 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: game prep. You know what I'm saying. And that's how 545 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: we built the relationship that we fel. So that's why 546 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: what me and Jimmy did bump his man. People don't 547 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: know man and Jimmy grinded out every day. You know 548 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just me and him. We need to 549 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: take a quick break. I'll be right back on the 550 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: other side with Mary Donnas. Every champion and carry champion 551 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: is to be a champion, a champion and carry champion 552 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: and carry chapiyond the Champion and carry Chappion and carry 553 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: Chappion fraids and sports. And then the taming can make 554 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: it work. Every champion and carry champions to be a champion, 555 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: the champion, they carry champion, the champion, they carry Champion, 556 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: and carry Champion fraid and sports. And then the taming 557 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: can make you appreciate your patients or at least fast 558 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: forwarding through the podcast. But here's more with you, d 559 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: What do you think of retire me? What? What does 560 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: what does post basketball life look like for you? When 561 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: I'm a business man, you know, UH be a man 562 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: of many talents, you know what I'm saying. I've been 563 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: blessed to UM spread my wings um so UM franchise 564 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: e for Subways and Starbucks Einstein's. Also, I wanted for 565 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: a hundred degrees World fire kitchen. I'm in the medical 566 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: marijuana business. I'm in the affordable housing business. I am 567 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: also into the mental health and UH drug rehab business 568 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: as well, which is my new project down here in Miami. 569 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: The next thing, my next step is we're in the 570 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: process of building a new UH eighth story drug and 571 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: rehab facility down here. If anybody knows anything about my 572 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: past and my history, my parents UM recovered from drugs. 573 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: My mom, who passed away twelve years ago, was really, really, 574 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: really bad. She went through a struggle homelessness, drug addiction. 575 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: You know. Even going to see her tell her story, 576 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Even though I had known 577 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: her story, just hearing her tell her story, UM, it 578 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: was very difficult. But the thing about my mom is 579 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: people say about the grid. I'm able to get through 580 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: the things being drafted. I was surviving all these things 581 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: because if you look statistics, I probably shouldn't be in 582 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: a situation I am, um. But if you look statistically, 583 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: my mom sho that never came from where she came from. 584 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: But she was able to go back be a spokesperson 585 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: for people that come from where she came from, poor 586 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: women out of that situation. And the hardest part for 587 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: me was actually look at her tell her story. That 588 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: when I was able to look at those women sitting 589 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: to my left, then I understood why she was telling 590 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: her story. So fast forward. Now I have the ability 591 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: to pull people out of the situation that she's in. 592 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: So our next project is drug drug rehab facility and 593 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: mental health mental health. We all understand the issue of 594 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: mental health right now, they're not getting the health they 595 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: need by putting them in jail. It's a waste of money. Um, 596 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: it's wasting money. So when you talk about resources, the 597 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: jails don't have the resources to help mental help people. 598 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: We let them out to call the police on them again, 599 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: that threatened the police feel threat in the back and 600 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: jail again. So our next project is mental health and 601 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: h drug, rehealth, iscility down here. Um, they're taking the 602 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: worst of the worst back back, iract different people like that. 603 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna help the worst of the worst. That's great, 604 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: and that's a part of what you want to do 605 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: when you retire. I see, I see a life in 606 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: politic to see a see mayor of Miami happening. I 607 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: see ownership. I see ownership. Ownership is where you're living. Okay, 608 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: you do both, you can do both. I don't like politics. 609 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: I gotta sleep at night, though, I gotta sleep. It's 610 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: how hard to sleep when you're a politician. Yeah, And 611 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be making you're not making no compromising deals. 612 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna be there, understand Yeah, I get, I 613 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: don't understand. You know they would you understand, I would 614 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: not exactly. He said something that I want to talk 615 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: about and and and not on a heavy note. But 616 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: you talked about how you loved your mom and that 617 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: was hard for you and your dad passed away about 618 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: a year ago maybe, and you're about a couple a 619 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: few months ago this past summer. Yeah, and you you 620 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: took some some weeks off from training camp when it happened. Um, 621 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: what how is that shifted your focus and and and 622 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: and recentered your life if you will. I mean, you 623 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: know what that was. So my mom passed away twelve 624 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: years ago. And a difference between my mom and my 625 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: dad is that you know my mom, um, you know 626 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: it really struggled with the addiction as closed to my dad. 627 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: He was able to function for his addiction. Um, but 628 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: as a kid and as a signer, and I knew 629 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: what was going on, you know the whole time. Um, 630 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, my mom passed away, and you know, the 631 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: human condition is just to think, Okay, I lost one parent, 632 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: There's no way I lose Uh, I'm just gonna I'm 633 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: gonna have this one forever. Um, my dad started to 634 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: get sick. You know, I started out with a little 635 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: bit of my normal and um, if anybody knows anything 636 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: about African American men, you know we have a high 637 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: percent of colon catching colon cancer, you know. Um, so 638 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: we struggled with a little bit of that. Um. You know, 639 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: the toughest part for me is, um, you know, and 640 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: I didn't wake up and get a phone call and 641 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: say hey, you know this happened, and that happen actually 642 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: was with my parents through the decline and every step 643 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: until the last breath. Um. So that was the hardest 644 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: part for me, is just to watch, you know, my 645 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: heroes go from here to here. Um. And you know, 646 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: my father was a strong and then I alveray knew, 647 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: but you know it's the illness to disease. Those things 648 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: really took away from you know, who he was and 649 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: what he was. So you know, I was the toughest 650 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: part for me. But what I gathered from all that 651 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: is when they passed, is that they had done their job. 652 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: They had prepared me, they had prepared me. I was ready. 653 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: And as a parent, that's all you want to do. 654 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You want to you want 655 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: to protect your kids. You want to provide for him, 656 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: you want to prepare them for life. You know what 657 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. When our parents passed away, when I had 658 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: all these questions about why, this is why, that the 659 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: only answer I had it I'm ready to move on 660 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: with life as a man, take a step and take 661 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: what I need to do. And those are the answers 662 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: that I had with all the questions and the wise 663 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: I had that one answer. That's that's what I wrote 664 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: on It was hard, so hard. Huh, yeah, definitely hard. 665 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: But I have a beautiful stepmother, you know what I'm saying. Um. 666 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: So a part of my story that people don't know 667 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: is that, um, when my mom did struggle with her 668 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: drug addiction, a lot of her uh issues were based upon, 669 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, the divorce of her father. You know, she 670 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: really struggled from that and came my stepmother, who was 671 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: a beautiful woman. And we all know the stories. A 672 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of times it's really not the woman's fault. So 673 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: I would just say that I ain't gonna blame my pops, 674 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: but Pops did this thing. So uh, pops did this thing, 675 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I'm gonna just leave 676 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: it at that. So but these two women, for these 677 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: two women to be able to put that aside, you know, 678 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: for the benefit of a child and to raise me, 679 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: they had they had a wonderful partnership. Um, and they 680 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: really combined, you know, to raise me. In American I 681 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: really had the best of both worlds because I had 682 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: a fatherhood they give a damn about nothing but kicking 683 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: ass and taking names. I had. I had a stepmother 684 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: who cared about nothing but how to be a strong 685 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: black man. In America, and I had a mother who 686 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: cared about being compassionate and just sharing and caring for 687 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: other people. So I really had all those things combined, 688 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's the person that people see the day. Yeah. Yeah, 689 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: all of those things and what a little bit of 690 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of some of the other stuff too. Yeah, 691 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, the kicking ass and taking names. It does, 692 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: it does, it doesn't, and that's never that's never gonna 693 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: go nowhere though, and it shouldn't. Do you have any 694 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: plans to retire anytime soon? Twenty years and next year 695 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: twenty years? I think that's it for me. That's a milestone. 696 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't think everybody anybody ever thought I would play 697 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty years, but I mean they would never thought I 698 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: would be the leading rebound in the NBA. They never 699 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: thought I had three mints. They never thought I'd be 700 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: a business owner. Um, they never thought anything. Like I 701 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: tell you, statistically, I ain't really supposed to be here. 702 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: So for me, that's why I so important, and that 703 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: the kids in Miami know that they got the same 704 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: opportunities as me. You know, a lot of times you 705 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: can find to see where you can find to believe 706 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: that you can only go as far as what you 707 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: see every day. What I'm saying, you walk out, you 708 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: see drugs, you see violence, and a's as far as 709 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: you think you can go. I've never been to South 710 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Beach that I got in the NBA, so I didn't 711 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: even know what's on the side of the bridge. You know, 712 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying I used to go. That's crazy. You So 713 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: you never went to South Beach. You grew up in 714 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: live the city and never went to South Beach. Okay, 715 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: so you went to Hollywood Beach. What's the drive hollow? No, 716 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Hollover Beach, Over Beach? And then how far is how 717 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: far is South Beach from Liberty City? You jump on 718 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: its first way, you go about not that much. But 719 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: the ain't not over there for us? When not over 720 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: there for us? What man? No money like that? You're 721 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: going over there for to watch the looking see? Ain't 722 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: going over there to look at see. We're gonna go 723 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: right over here to Hollover. We're gonna barbecue and we 724 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna jet ski. We're gonna take our ads home. We 725 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: had a wonderful Saturday or Sunday. When you need when 726 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: you need a South Beach and the only time I 727 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: needed South Beaches when I got first, when I first 728 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: got in bid. Now that I'm in my forties, I 729 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: don't need that ship. Now I don't want to. They 730 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: can have it. But fast people on Instagram, I'm like, no, no, no, 731 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: I agree with that, but fast forward from the kid 732 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: who didn't need to do nothing like you live a 733 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: good life though now I'm living good. You know I'm 734 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: living good, but I work hard. You know what I'm 735 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: saying a lot of times, A lot of times. You 736 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: know the conversation that I have with my my like 737 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: minded people around me. Now I like to say my 738 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: brother d Way. You know what I'm saying, who I consider. 739 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying inspiration because like every time 740 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: I turn around my dog getting to the check, we 741 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: get into the bag quick and I tell him. I 742 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: tell him all the time. You keep reading the bo 743 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: dog because as you raise the bar, I understand I 744 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: can't keep up with him. Got down some of the 745 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: vacations if I don't get to my ship too. So 746 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: al so every time you get to change boat, every 747 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: time you get a check, I gotta get a check 748 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: because I don't tell my ass up. I gotta keep 749 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: up that's buddy, You're doing fine and I'm sure even better. 750 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: The future looks amazing for you and super bright. Thank 751 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: you for taking a time to join us on naked. 752 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank for having having Man. You 753 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: gotta love that guy, right, just a really good guy. 754 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: He says he's retiring next year, twenty years, nice and round. 755 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: Who knows he could change his mind. He's entitled to that. 756 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: But I really truly meant what I said. That organization 757 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: is smart. They know his value. They're lucky to have him. 758 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: Think about that twenty years anywhere. I can imagine me 759 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: working twenty years anywhere my A D D self like anyway, 760 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: I just could not imagine it, let alone playing in 761 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: a league for two decades, contributing to the same team 762 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: for two decades, being valued by that team for two decades. 763 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: And I'm sure it hasn't been lovely, right, Nothing is 764 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: always great all the time, But if you look at it, 765 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: time ultimately tells your story. And that city values the 766 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: one they raised. Udonis Haslem is invaluable to that city 767 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: and to that franchise, and I'm glad that they were 768 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: able to notice that. I keep going back to twenty years. 769 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: You guys can't say, at a job for more than 770 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: six months, how are you gonna say somewhere for twenty years? 771 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: It was his assignment and he understood it. And not 772 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: only that, I'm or there are so many people currently 773 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: here alive, breathing, not with us, who understands his impact. 774 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: There are certain people who hold franchises together. In sports, 775 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: right there are certain eras of teams where you know 776 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: that person is the glue. He may not be the 777 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: flashy is, he may not have the most points. He's 778 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily the one that you always go to or 779 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: hear of, But behind the scenes, there is such a 780 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: quiet respect. What's that line that Little Wayne says, real 781 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: gangsters move in silence like something like that. I always 782 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: try to rap for y'all, but that's how I feel 783 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: about him, and I feel that mystery that I talked 784 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: about earlier has everything to do with how he moves 785 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: through that city and what he's been through and how 786 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: he's been able to evolve. I saw this great quote 787 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: and now ended on that. If you are currently not 788 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: in my life and you knew the old version of me, 789 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: you don't know about me right now? Something like that 790 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: and I've watched him evolve, and I know there are 791 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: many people who may not know everything about him, but 792 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: we surely do like the man that he has become 793 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: and will become. Thank you all so much for listening 794 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: to Naked. Next week, we got a good one. I 795 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: can't talk about it. Oh, it's juicy. Is juicy? Can't 796 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: talk about it, but it's juicy. Thank you guys so 797 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: much for being here on Naked, and I'll talk to 798 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: you next week.