Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, call It Crew. Hello, jess are sitting
Speaker 2: here on top of the world, on top of the
Speaker 2: world in Chicago.
Speaker 3: We are here for a con which is a convention
Speaker 3: right where we get to meet fans. And we found
Speaker 3: out that there was another podcast happening in Chicago at
Speaker 3: the same time as us, and that was Scrubbing In.
Speaker 3: And I know you guys have heard of this podcast
Speaker 3: because they love Gray's Anatomy. I've been on the podcast,
Speaker 3: and to be honest, right now, I'm paying my pants
Speaker 3: a little bit because they are so professional an experts
Speaker 3: and they're sitting right in front of him staring at them,
Speaker 3: and we are like the feetus babies.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what we're doing. I know I know.
Speaker 4: Babies.
Speaker 2: So Tanya and back, can you say hello to the.
Speaker 5: We are so honored to be here, truly, like the
Speaker 5: honor is ours?
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's a co honor.
Speaker 6: I think it's a co honor. But I do think
Speaker 6: since our podcast titled name is in reference to this.
Speaker 5: Is it's like royalty, like this is actually actual royalty,
Speaker 5: and it's actually really nice. We didn't bring we have
Speaker 5: pillows that are like the size of like a bean
Speaker 5: with your faces on them.
Speaker 7: We didn't bring them here, so you don't.
Speaker 5: You don't have the pleasure of seeing yours.
Speaker 2: They're a situation.
Speaker 4: Hala likes the crown.
Speaker 1: So I'm.
Speaker 7: Yeah, wait, can we cheers, because I'm honest, cheer a bottle?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm excited because usually I'm on your podcast
Speaker 3: and you asked me questions and we get to ask
Speaker 3: you guys questions today.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's true, right, Okay, but I sort of
Speaker 1: actually forgot the component, which is like besties and besties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, maybe that's where we start. O friendship components.
Speaker 6: Are saying, like the hair, the similarity, the hair.
Speaker 2: Color, the hair color, it's like looking at our youngest.
Speaker 5: So I feel like, yeah, yeah, forty, Okay, you're forty.
Speaker 4: She said, like, no, I love how people are shocked.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, thanks. Oh let's be honest.
Speaker 4: If they weren't shocked, you'd be pissed.
Speaker 6: I really obviously not lie about it, obviously.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you guys are best friends? Where did you
Speaker 4: first meet.
Speaker 6: We met at an iHeart festival in Vegas. Yes, she
Speaker 6: was not super warm to me.
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Okay, first of all, no, she's so dramatic and she
Speaker 5: knows our story a little bit too.
Speaker 3: Because we did not get along okay, no, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: okay so.
Speaker 7: Much, and you didn't like her.
Speaker 4: She didn't really know it.
Speaker 2: I know she mean it very obviously, guys.
Speaker 5: The problem is she always likes to say this, but
Speaker 5: like I, when I love people like I get really
Speaker 5: excited to see them. And she was with two people
Speaker 5: that I already had known. I didn't know her, so
Speaker 5: I was really excited to see the people that she
Speaker 5: was with, and I was like, nice to you.
Speaker 6: I thought opid'ctly I would say she was tepid.
Speaker 5: But then, as fate would have it, we ended up
Speaker 5: she ended up moving into the apartment literally right next
Speaker 5: door to mine, so we shared a wall, and that's
Speaker 5: when everything like flipped for us, because we just became
Speaker 5: like inseparable at that point, Like we literally shared a
Speaker 5: wall for a little.
Speaker 2: Intimate I feel like I sure was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, some of us have some spatial boundaries that others
Speaker 6: still and I would be like waking up. You know,
Speaker 6: she is on a morning radio show, so she gets
Speaker 6: up early, comes home while I'm still waking up, basically yeah,
Speaker 6: and she would just turn the knob like ready to
Speaker 6: come in, and she like knock until I answered it,
Speaker 6: Why is your door locked? And like, well I was sleeping,
Speaker 6: So that's why she acts like this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she loves it. No, I know, I actually.
Speaker 6: Think y'all are similar. Two of you.
Speaker 2: No boundaries in these friendships need Yeah, she would like.
Speaker 5: Get me ready for like dates and stuff, like she
Speaker 5: would like do my hair and like do I make
Speaker 5: up for me?
Speaker 7: And like it was like a really sweet time.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine if we had that time in our
Speaker 1: lives together you would not let me do I actually
Speaker 1: would because you do that really pretty thing with your eyes,
Speaker 1: and I I don't love ever everybody to do that.
Speaker 4: I can do it.
Speaker 3: Look on if you guys like when you're when you
Speaker 3: guys are like old, do.
Speaker 2: You want houses side by side?
Speaker 6: Then like no, there's an instant No, No, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think we need that. No, like a close
Speaker 6: drive away is good.
Speaker 7: We're too far away from each other right now.
Speaker 6: I know I moved to you and you moved away.
Speaker 7: I know, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Moved in with my fiance, but uh, we're a little
Speaker 5: bit too far. We're about ten minutes ten to eleven
Speaker 5: minute drive.
Speaker 2: I prefer to be far.
Speaker 6: It's it's good for me personally, Like it's a perfect distance.
Speaker 6: So I'm not yeah, I'm not trying to like She's
Speaker 6: like talking about moving to the valley and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's how where how close to me close?
Speaker 7: She acts like this, but she she loves it.
Speaker 6: She loves it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that. Okay.
Speaker 2: When we walked in, we were blinded by.
Speaker 4: The ring on Tanya's finger almost immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, she's like a magpie.
Speaker 4: She's like a mag I'm like, shiny, shiny, sparkling.
Speaker 6: Engaged.
Speaker 2: You were last time I saw you were not engaged?
Speaker 6: Correct? Wait, so when did you get engaged?
Speaker 5: So I've actually been engaged for a year, but we
Speaker 5: need a story, the engagement story.
Speaker 6: Yes, we love it.
Speaker 5: Well, we were dating for three years before we got engaged.
Speaker 1: Woaw.
Speaker 7: I know it's a long time for like, yeah, later
Speaker 7: in your life.
Speaker 4: But my faderhead, Yeah, well no.
Speaker 5: I mean, like a lot all my friends, a lot
Speaker 5: of my friends got married in their twenties, like early
Speaker 5: twenty of your life. Really love when you're talking, I
Speaker 5: feel like a lot of people get married early on
Speaker 5: in their twenties, yes, and I'm like in my later thirties,
Speaker 5: so I mean right later on in life.
Speaker 7: But I was like ready for it, Like after the
Speaker 7: first year.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm ready for it, and he was
Speaker 5: divorced with kids, and so he was kind of like
Speaker 5: on the slower path. Yeah, So we met in the middle,
Speaker 5: and it was really beautiful. He did it on like
Speaker 5: a Sunday. I was like not expecting at all. He
Speaker 5: had all of our closest friends and our family, and
Speaker 5: like Becca was there and she was filming, so I
Speaker 5: was obviously surprised for me. So I didn't know that
Speaker 5: they were all there, and Becca was basically like filming
Speaker 5: everybody and kind of like their excitement of it like
Speaker 5: before I came out, and so like getting to see
Speaker 5: those videos is so special because I didn't know what
Speaker 5: was going on, and getting to like see all their
Speaker 5: conversations and they were all like helping him decide like
Speaker 5: where to set it up, and she was in charge
Speaker 5: of the speaker for the music, and like he just
Speaker 5: gave everybody a job, and it was just like really
Speaker 5: really sweet.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and he.
Speaker 4: Has he has how many kids?
Speaker 7: Two kids? Ten and twelve? Oh boys?
Speaker 2: Oh okay great, yeah, oh that's exciting.
Speaker 3: And did you find it stressful, like keeping that secret?
Speaker 3: Because I hate secrets.
Speaker 6: I love secrets. You do.
Speaker 2: You're a good I'm so bad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's like a vaulted Did you ever have to
Speaker 7: go yeah dinner.
Speaker 6: I think a few days before, like the week before,
Speaker 6: and she was talking about plans or something, and I
Speaker 6: was so casual. It was just like just oh.
Speaker 3: My god, break a sweat break. Did you really have
Speaker 3: no idea? Did anyone do the whole? Like, why don't
Speaker 3: you go get.
Speaker 2: Your nails done today?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: Because I do always.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been preparing for like a.
Speaker 6: Year, like I was.
Speaker 5: For a year before we got engaged, So I was like.
Speaker 6: Ready for it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so there was no need to like prepare me.
Speaker 7: I was like read it. Yeah yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 5: But I was surprised the day of because it was
Speaker 5: like after a Jonas brother's concert.
Speaker 7: It was a Sunday. I was hungover, like it was
Speaker 7: so weird but perfect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh my gosh, I couldn't even he packed me
Speaker 5: makeup because basically what it is he handed me. We
Speaker 5: did like a couple's massage, but they said like the
Speaker 5: room was broken or whatever, so they put me in
Speaker 5: a room by myself. After my massage, they handed me
Speaker 5: a note that was written by him saying like the time,
Speaker 5: like it's been a long time coming, your dress and
Speaker 5: your makeup is in your locker. I'm waiting for you
Speaker 5: on the terrace. So like then I knew. So I
Speaker 5: just started like bawling and what. Yeah, So I knew
Speaker 5: at that point, like we were getting engaged. And I
Speaker 5: looked at my massage therapist and I was like I'm
Speaker 5: getting engaged, and I like hugged her and like I
Speaker 5: just started bawling. And then I had all my makeup,
Speaker 5: but I couldn't even put it on because I was
Speaker 5: just like crying so hard.
Speaker 6: This he is moving. But also it's like he asked, like.
Speaker 4: I'm tripping on.
Speaker 1: He kind of asked you without even being there because
Speaker 1: he said what it was gonna be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it literally was like just one sentences like it's
Speaker 5: been a long time coming. Uh, your dress and the
Speaker 5: make and your makeup or in your lockers, I'm waiting
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 7: In the terrace and I was like.
Speaker 6: Oh, this is wow.
Speaker 3: I would say yes if I opened a random locker
Speaker 3: and that was a note, I'm like sorry, man, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: race is here and I'm all the genrors.
Speaker 1: Yeah mine, I know that's deep.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was cute. It was really cute.
Speaker 2: And so many is officiating.
Speaker 6: We heard rumors.
Speaker 5: Yes, So I work. I work on the morning show
Speaker 5: on Earth Ryan Seacrest, and he he loves like he
Speaker 5: loves my fiance. They like really get along really well.
Speaker 5: And I feel like it's really symbolic because I lived
Speaker 5: out so much of like my single life on the
Speaker 5: air and on the morning show, and so the fact
Speaker 5: that he's going to like officiate for us is like
Speaker 5: very sentimental and kind of like full circle.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever said this on the
Speaker 1: podcast before, but I was an I listened to the
Speaker 1: Morning show every morning on my way to grace.
Speaker 6: You all did.
Speaker 1: Chunk of I mean, I what undid me was because
Speaker 1: I was pregnant so many times on the show and
Speaker 1: there it's an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 4: You go through a lot of different you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, imagine And it was Ryan's roses that I
Speaker 1: was like I can't listen to one.
Speaker 6: More horrible person in the world. I just can't do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just makes me just lose my.
Speaker 6: Faith in humanity.
Speaker 1: It was Ryan's roses that put me over the edge,
Speaker 1: and but I listened to it all the time, which
Speaker 1: is so crazy to me now because I think, now
Speaker 1: my habits are I get in and I've got my
Speaker 1: Spotify play.
Speaker 2: Did I just go straight to that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Now, I really did.
Speaker 4: I listened to all the banter.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Thing.
Speaker 5: So like when I started with him, I had like
Speaker 5: I had just broken up with this guy that I
Speaker 5: thought I was going to marry, and so it was
Speaker 5: like this whole whirlwind of like my life got turned
Speaker 5: upside down. I started dating again, like it was. My
Speaker 5: whole single life was literally documented on the Morning show.
Speaker 5: And so it's like it's going to be like a
Speaker 5: full circle moment to have him like a fishing kind
Speaker 5: of like end that chapter for me.
Speaker 4: You know, what do you think Ryan's going to get
Speaker 4: you as your wedding present?
Speaker 7: You know, his presence is our present?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Come on, I need well no, but yeah, but okay,
Speaker 4: all right, I got the answer.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I want to imagine that Ryan's going to get you
Speaker 1: like a like a.
Speaker 2: House, like a like a white rose voice.
Speaker 6: Next to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it would be the dream, honestly. Yeah, yeah, no
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: It's so funny because we're actually talking about that. I
Speaker 5: was like, I don't want I don't want anybody coming
Speaker 5: to the wedding to like give us a gift, like
Speaker 5: I'm going to toast her from like my best friends
Speaker 5: that are coming to my wedding.
Speaker 6: Special design.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt that way. I put like, no, you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't have a registry. I was like, it's.
Speaker 2: Fine, don't worry about it. You guys coming. Okay, I
Speaker 2: seriously regret that.
Speaker 4: Oh really, yes, you regret not having a registry.
Speaker 3: Okay loves Okay, No, wait, back up.
Speaker 1: Having a registry, because what would a registry do tell
Speaker 1: people what to get you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, people got you weird stuff. No, you guys,
Speaker 3: let me give you some context. Jessica has a registry
Speaker 3: for her birthday, for.
Speaker 6: Her birthday, not every amazing.
Speaker 1: Superior and well, we know how you feel about it.
Speaker 1: But let the women speak, because I just heard the
Speaker 1: one a ramp up to this is a it's amazining.
Speaker 4: She thinks it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go back to your story.
Speaker 6: How a registry is.
Speaker 3: I want to people really quick care about you to
Speaker 3: Jessica's birthday.
Speaker 2: There's a link to a registry.
Speaker 6: For that's my dream. What I hate having to think
Speaker 6: about what someone's gonna like for a gift.
Speaker 4: And imagine if they were all different price points.
Speaker 2: Perfect, I mean the fact that switch.
Speaker 7: Yeah, actually, like.
Speaker 5: I would actually, I don't know what I would do
Speaker 5: if somebody send me a link to their registry for
Speaker 5: their birthday, I'd be like, no, I'm giving your pull off.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: I did not have a registry for my wedding. I
Speaker 3: regretted it because all of my kitchen stuff is crap.
Speaker 3: It's stuff that I had from like my twenties, and
Speaker 3: I could have done like a nice toaster or like
Speaker 3: cooking Star. I still don't have stuff.
Speaker 4: Now I change.
Speaker 7: I might change my mind on the birthday.
Speaker 6: Coming up in December, I might start doing this because
Speaker 6: like that, just I felt excited hearing about that. My God,
Speaker 6: And now even if you didn't say like specifics, if
Speaker 6: it was like here's stores that I love, yeah, anything
Speaker 6: that you want to get me from that, yes, I
Speaker 6: love that. Okay, Becca, Yeah, do we hear wedding balls
Speaker 6: for you? Oh?
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
Speaker 6: I feel great about my relationship. But we've been together
Speaker 6: for six years, I know, but we just officially moved
Speaker 6: in together last month, actually a couple months ago, but
Speaker 6: she left and worked for three months in Canada. So yeah,
Speaker 6: So she's asked me like three times every day if
Speaker 6: I'm going to get married.
Speaker 5: She's going to keep it a secret. She's like, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to tell anybody. So now I feel like
Speaker 5: I have to ask her every day.
Speaker 6: But when it happens, I'm just saying, I will propel anybody.
Speaker 6: I think it would eventually be both of us proposed,
Speaker 6: but I don't know. I would imagine I would.
Speaker 3: I would have time that though, you just do you
Speaker 3: have the discussion beforehand of like, hey, this is going
Speaker 3: to be the day that we proposed to each other.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, so romantic.
Speaker 2: But she's for that you both proposed.
Speaker 7: I think one doesn't like a couple of months.
Speaker 6: Later on so that we both get to where, you know,
Speaker 6: the room okay, but no, we are really just adjusting
Speaker 6: the living together. But I know, like I want to
Speaker 6: be with her, prepper, I'm not like a wedding, Like
Speaker 6: I'm not like, oh, I dreamed of my wedding my
Speaker 6: whole life. You were on the Bachelor, listen, I know,
Speaker 6: and I'm dating a woman.
Speaker 2: Now there's room, there's room.
Speaker 6: Grew up in the South, and I think there was
Speaker 6: the expectation of, like you get married young kids, and
Speaker 6: I was always like what I just assumed I was
Speaker 6: going to do? So The Bachelor felt very much unnatural
Speaker 6: in the stance of how it was done. But I
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, nothing, the apps aren't working. Let's see
Speaker 6: if this works two times and yeah, did it? And
Speaker 6: then I met her. I think two years after that.
Speaker 2: Would you ever go back and watch old episodes?
Speaker 6: Oh? No, like watching I was. I want to. We'll
Speaker 6: talk about this later. But watching yourself on a screen
Speaker 6: like that is the most uncomfortable thing to me.
Speaker 2: Well, that's so much worse.
Speaker 6: We played character.
Speaker 4: I mean we yeah, we we had other people's words
Speaker 4: so we could.
Speaker 7: Watch was like a little like, well it wasn't me, yeah, right,
Speaker 7: but right.
Speaker 1: I actually find it strangely, and I've given what we're
Speaker 1: doing right now. I find it hard to listen to myself. Yes,
Speaker 1: I really had to hear yourself a voicemailing you like
Speaker 1: who not me?
Speaker 7: How I found Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, so yeah that's what I did.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you because because I had to be reminded
Speaker 1: that you were on the Bachelor. So I have a question,
Speaker 1: given that you have real life experience being on a
Speaker 1: show like that, do you have do you feel like
Speaker 1: you feel differently or or do you what is your
Speaker 1: feeling and or impression of shows that catch fire like
Speaker 1: Love Island?
Speaker 4: Like do you do you watch it?
Speaker 6: Did you watch it? I'm not into Love Island?
Speaker 2: Are there any.
Speaker 4: Reality shows that you're into?
Speaker 6: So I so my girlfriend loves The Bachelor like that
Speaker 6: I've never watched before I was on it. And then
Speaker 6: when I met her, she tried to act like she
Speaker 6: didn't watch my seasons. I found out like a few
Speaker 6: months into our relationship she was like a diehard fan.
Speaker 6: She was like, oh yeah, she's like I am. I
Speaker 6: think I started watching around Rachel Lindsay's season, which was
Speaker 6: like a few after mine, and I was like, oh okay.
Speaker 6: And then I found like an old you know, like
Speaker 6: when you start dating somebody stalk their whole Instagram. I
Speaker 6: like went like backfar and she did a literal Instagram
Speaker 6: video where she's almost like it was almost like my
Speaker 6: conversation with one of the Bachelor's verbatim no, because that
Speaker 6: was a virgin. I was like, oh, I don't know
Speaker 6: what I want to do, and and it was basically
Speaker 6: like my conversation that she was acting out. And I
Speaker 6: was like, this was the year that I was on
Speaker 6: the Bachelor, So you literally were watching.
Speaker 1: I realized that I have to catch up here. But
Speaker 1: you went on the Bachelor as a virgin.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so I grew up the Christian.
Speaker 7: That was my story for story.
Speaker 6: So I didn't want it to be because I knew
Speaker 6: as soon as they found out about that that was
Speaker 6: gonna be my storyline. Yeah. There was another girl in
Speaker 6: there who was a virgin. She was crying because she
Speaker 6: had just told him and she was like, I don't
Speaker 6: know how he receiving right? Actually, I ah yeah, and
Speaker 6: I go, oh, I'm a virgin too, and like in
Speaker 6: my mind I said it, and I was like I
Speaker 6: have a microphone and like seven cameras on the right,
Speaker 6: and I'm like damn. I was like I was trying
Speaker 6: to not do that. And immediately a producer was like, Becca,
Speaker 6: come here, interview. Yeah, so that became like my storyline, gotcha, Yeah, when.
Speaker 3: You're on the show, do you have to wear a
Speaker 3: mic from the moment you wake up?
Speaker 6: I was They kind of like would get so annoyed
Speaker 6: with me because I would be. I would wait till
Speaker 6: they had to come and find me to be like, Becky,
Speaker 6: you have to put a microphone on because it was
Speaker 6: like on your back all day.
Speaker 7: It was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: They are uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Old were you when you on the first time twenty six?
Speaker 6: But I was. I grew up very conservative, very Christian,
Speaker 6: so and in hindsight, I honestly think it may have
Speaker 6: been because I was more into women. But in my
Speaker 6: mind it was easier.
Speaker 7: To be like, yeah, right, it's religious.
Speaker 6: You know. But yeah. I would get in the pool
Speaker 6: because you could take your mic off when you were swimming,
Speaker 6: but it was they'd.
Speaker 7: Be like, where's backup?
Speaker 6: I would try Yeah, So basically though, and then I
Speaker 6: hated the fact that I had it when I was
Speaker 6: going to back I just like I felt it's so invasive,
Speaker 6: super invasive. I feel like reality I know, but she
Speaker 6: loves speaking of like reality shows. She's obsessed with all
Speaker 6: violands and so I watched.
Speaker 5: You Obsessed Cannot Get Enough, Like when I tell you like,
Speaker 5: but not the USA only UK.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that that one.
Speaker 7: So UK. They're like next level, next level there there.
Speaker 5: It's weird because they're all interacting, they're doing the same people,
Speaker 5: but they do so respectfully. Yeah yeah yeah, and they're
Speaker 5: still drama, but they deal with it in such like
Speaker 5: a respectful, mature manner.
Speaker 4: That's what I've heard.
Speaker 7: Yes, So it's like so interesting to watch.
Speaker 1: When I saw one episode of the American version and
Speaker 1: I was like, this last season I swore, And because
Speaker 1: I heard my my thirteen year old talking with her
Speaker 1: friends because we're a little bit like I'm very wary
Speaker 1: of the social media and kids and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: so I kind of toe that line. And they don't
Speaker 1: have social media, so they you know, she just got
Speaker 1: Snapchat and she gets like twenty minutes a day, thirteen.
Speaker 4: She's thirteen.
Speaker 1: She just got a phone, and so I think she's
Speaker 1: figured out different little workarounds.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1: You, Eve, And so she was talking to some friends
Speaker 1: about it, and it's like whether she would be at
Speaker 1: someone else's house and maybe they won't have it all
Speaker 1: or I think you can find everything on YouTube.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: YouTube.
Speaker 1: So anyways, it was put into my consciousness and then
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I should see like some piece of
Speaker 1: this before I'm saying how horrible it is or or
Speaker 1: whatever you know. And so I watched one episode like
Speaker 1: I wanted to like burn my eyeballs out.
Speaker 4: This cannot be watched by my thirteen year old child.
Speaker 5: So till your thirteen year old to watch the UK version,
Speaker 5: Thank you. It's much more sophisticated.
Speaker 7: Yeah mannered, Yeah, manner mannered.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I speaking of reality, I've just gotten her started on
Speaker 3: the Mormon Uh yeah.
Speaker 5: The Secret Lives. So I just started it. I'm only
Speaker 5: one episode in, so.
Speaker 6: Don't yeah I can.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to spoil it.
Speaker 6: People love it, people are going crazy over it. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: But everyone was obsessed with Love Island USA.
Speaker 5: Island USA was top tier television. When I tell you
Speaker 5: you liked it, Oh, so I swore off USA. I
Speaker 5: was like, I will never watch Love Island USA ever,
Speaker 5: Like never, And then UK this last season, I was
Speaker 5: watching it and it was really bad, and I was like,
Speaker 5: I need my fix in the summer. So I heard
Speaker 5: everybody was like in the USA, So I went over
Speaker 5: to the USA and it was phenomenal. So this last season,
Speaker 5: hats off. They deserved some awards for this last season
Speaker 5: because it was any dating reality show. I'm like, there, yeah, wow, yeah,
Speaker 5: wow yeah.
Speaker 7: Love is Blind.
Speaker 5: Love is Blind UK, Mexico, USA.
Speaker 6: Yes, you can get a nuddy anywhere.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Taylor Swift?
Speaker 6: Oh? Sure?
Speaker 7: So Beck as best friend?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: So so we have we you know, before we do podcasts,
Speaker 3: we get notes on things. And I was like, yay
Speaker 3: yy I know these girls. And I was like, wait
Speaker 3: a tick. Taylor Swift knew about you and Haley before
Speaker 3: anybody else did.
Speaker 6: Not before anybody else but before my parents? How how
Speaker 6: this is actually such a crazy story. So we love it.
Speaker 6: My girlfriend Haley, she's a singer and she was on
Speaker 6: tour with She was opening for a Panic at the
Speaker 6: disco at the time, and she was on the same
Speaker 6: tour schedule kind of as Taylor, and so Taylor reached
Speaker 6: out and asked if she wanted to perform with her
Speaker 6: during her reputation tour, and so Haley, Haley was like
Speaker 6: really respected Taylor, but wasn't like, didn't know like a
Speaker 6: tonuber of music or anything, you know, just very like
Speaker 6: respected her as an artist, but she knew I was
Speaker 6: like obsessed with Taylor. And she's like, oh, they just
Speaker 6: called and we're going to be in Boston at the
Speaker 6: same time. They want me to come out and perform
Speaker 6: Curious with her during the concert, and I was like,
Speaker 6: I'm flying out. Tell me to day. When is this happening. So,
Speaker 6: in for context, we met in April, basically started dating
Speaker 6: as soon as we met. She went on tour, and
Speaker 6: then this was in July. So however, many months okay three,
Speaker 6: all my friends knew about us. My sisters lived with
Speaker 6: me at the time, my two younger sisters, and so
Speaker 6: I fly out there and she goes on stage performs.
Speaker 6: I'm in like the friends and family section with Mama
Speaker 6: Swift like I'm just like, this is the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 6: And I'm videoing my girlfriend on stage with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is so epic, you know. So we
Speaker 6: go back to Haley's green room, Haley and her mom
Speaker 6: go to Taylor's dressing room with Taylor and her mom
Speaker 6: and they're chatting. I'm in Haley's green room, I'm looking
Speaker 6: at videos. I'm like, this is incredible, and my mom
Speaker 6: texted me and she was like she had known about
Speaker 6: like Hailey's name, but she was like, do you like
Speaker 6: Haley more than a friend.
Speaker 2: At the same time on that night yeaheah. So I'm
Speaker 2: like looking for my foot off that night.
Speaker 6: I don't no, I guess because she knew. I think
Speaker 6: I told her like I'm going to Boston Haley's performing whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So my mom texts me that I'm like staring at
Speaker 6: my phone, and Haley's security guard comes over and he's like, hey,
Speaker 6: Taylor wants to say hi, So I'm going to take
Speaker 6: you to her dressing room. So like i go in
Speaker 6: with the most heavy feeling because I'm like, I'm about
Speaker 6: to meet my favorite celebrity ever and I have to
Speaker 6: come out to my mom tonight. Like it was just
Speaker 6: so this like crazy balance. So we talked about I
Speaker 6: think we talked like Bachelor in Paradise or something. It
Speaker 6: was like, she's so you've met her.
Speaker 7: She's so she's the best normal.
Speaker 6: She's so like intentional, like when she's having a conversation,
Speaker 6: it's very like you're the person she's talking to. She
Speaker 6: doesn't care what's going on. And then yeah, I had
Speaker 6: to go on Haley's bus and have a very hard
Speaker 6: conversation with my mom.
Speaker 7: Crazy.
Speaker 3: That's an insane story, and I'm very jealous.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's so many different layers to that.
Speaker 2: There's there had to have been.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm when we talking about I'm a little more
Speaker 4: woo woo.
Speaker 1: I'm a little more like the destiny of it, Like
Speaker 1: things happened right when they're meant to happen, all that
Speaker 1: stuff for that to happen, because to have something that's
Speaker 1: so so hard sitting side by side something that was
Speaker 1: so so fantastic, the true I mean, that's incredible, right
Speaker 1: that you got to feel those two things and maybe
Speaker 1: even use some of the energy from I'm with my
Speaker 1: most favorite artists in the world, and I think that
Speaker 1: there's like an emotional contagion that happens between people. So
Speaker 1: like that bolstering and that confidence and that like joy
Speaker 1: got to come and be in your story of doing
Speaker 1: something you thought it was gonna be really hard.
Speaker 7: Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a lot crazy, crazy tense.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 3: I have a question about just podcasting, okay, because we
Speaker 3: are the podcast.
Speaker 2: Babies compared to you guys.
Speaker 3: You guys are like the varsity, the seniors. What are
Speaker 3: some tips for us to be better at tips and
Speaker 3: tricks for us.
Speaker 2: To be better at our jobs?
Speaker 7: You're just such a nerd.
Speaker 2: What are some things that you guys learned along the way.
Speaker 3: I bet you're like, I wish I knew it from
Speaker 3: day one when I started this podcast.
Speaker 2: I wish I knew this this.
Speaker 5: I feel like we've been doing it for seven years
Speaker 5: and there's gonna be people in your ear that tell
Speaker 5: you to do it this way, or do this way,
Speaker 5: or talk to this person or how you know.
Speaker 7: I always feel like.
Speaker 5: Our gut is always right on things like if we're
Speaker 5: having fun and we're liking the people that we're having
Speaker 5: on the podcast is great. If we're not having fun
Speaker 5: and it's not someone that we want to talk to,
Speaker 5: it's not enjoyable. So I think, like, just listen to
Speaker 5: your gut and your intuition. I think that's like my
Speaker 5: biggest thing.
Speaker 6: And also I feel like the like my most vulnerable
Speaker 6: episodes where I left the like recording being like, oh god,
Speaker 6: do I need them to take that hour or edit,
Speaker 6: you know, but have decided to leave it in have
Speaker 6: been the most like impactful moments of the podcast, like
Speaker 6: our vulnerable moments where we cry. You know. It's just
Speaker 6: I think that's what people listen to podcasts for, especially
Speaker 6: when it's a relationship in terms of friendship and they
Speaker 6: want to know you. There's this element of vulnerability with
Speaker 6: podcasts that people gravitate towards because they essentially are listening.
Speaker 6: And obviously y'all are y'all are celebrities and people have
Speaker 6: y'all in this like y'all are their favorite from their
Speaker 6: favorite TV show ever, so there's a difference in that,
Speaker 6: but they're listening because they love you, guys, and they
Speaker 6: want to hear about your lives and it doesn't have
Speaker 6: to be so polished. My girlfriend has a really hard
Speaker 6: time with social media, for instance, because she's a traditional
Speaker 6: actress and artist. So the social media of it, all
Speaker 6: of it all is intimidating to her because it's very
Speaker 6: casual in the sense that it's, yeah, it's not filtered,
Speaker 6: it's not edited, whereas traditional creative people are used to
Speaker 6: that needing like it to be perfect and look a
Speaker 6: certain way. And so I think that's the most The
Speaker 6: thing that I've noticed is when we're the most authentic
Speaker 6: and raw and just like vulnerable with our feelings and
Speaker 6: how what we're doing.
Speaker 5: If we mess something up and we're like, should do
Speaker 5: it over, and then we're like, no, keep it in.
Speaker 5: We'll just keep it all in, just let it, let
Speaker 5: it go.
Speaker 6: But I listened to y'all's podcast, and I feel like
Speaker 6: y'all do such a y'all's banter. So it's when you
Speaker 6: have natural chemistry with someone's huge, it makes the biggest No,
Speaker 6: that's giving.
Speaker 4: Her a little shoulder on camera shoulder.
Speaker 2: No, I think we're finding that too, something that Jessica.
Speaker 4: Gave her a wink.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: I think something that jess and I I've talked about
Speaker 3: before we started the pod was that we are so
Speaker 3: used as actors, used to being polished and making sure
Speaker 3: we don't say the wrong thing quote unquote, and you know,
Speaker 3: giving an answer, buttoning it, moving on. And this was
Speaker 3: initially kind of intimidating and exciting all at the same time,
Speaker 3: because we were like, Okay, we're going to have to
Speaker 3: get vulnerable and we're not.
Speaker 2: We that's not really are mo O normally.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that for when you're an actor, you
Speaker 1: are usually representing a project.
Speaker 4: When you're reviewed or you're in front of camera or
Speaker 4: being heard.
Speaker 1: Yes, and in pot when you're on a podcast, you're
Speaker 1: representing yourself and so that transition from I'm representing someone
Speaker 1: else and how they would like for this project to
Speaker 1: be represented, right, and I'm representing myself and I need
Speaker 1: to trust for me.
Speaker 4: Like the biggest thing has been.
Speaker 1: That that equal parts trust and connection, which is you know,
Speaker 1: because we're all looking for that. Even when you're just
Speaker 1: listening and you're listening in on you know, I mean
Speaker 1: listening to both of you talk, it's like there's this
Speaker 1: incredible dynamic knowing and belonging and trust and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and you hear it when you guys are when you're
Speaker 1: just talking. And I think that that you know, people
Speaker 1: want to tune into. And I think that in the
Speaker 1: beginning for us, it was it's been so new that
Speaker 1: you sort of like you're still doing the razzle dazzle
Speaker 1: on some level, like what is the thing like what's
Speaker 1: going to be entertaining or right?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: And I think that it's wild to think that in
Speaker 1: this in this medium, you kind of like the less
Speaker 1: entertaining that you try to be the better.
Speaker 7: I think something is I think like you're you. That's
Speaker 7: the thing.
Speaker 5: Like the people that listen to your podcast are like
Speaker 5: listening for you, and they will come with you and
Speaker 5: they will do life with you, and they will that
Speaker 5: they're there for you. And so it's like I think
Speaker 5: that's been like it's such a beautiful relationship because it's
Speaker 5: like you meet these people, like when we did some
Speaker 5: of our live shows, it's like you meet these people
Speaker 5: and they've been invested and they like know so much
Speaker 5: of you and your life and your story, and they
Speaker 5: relate to things and at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: like human connection, we all no matter what celebrity non celebrity,
Speaker 5: we all deal with the same stuff. So it's like
Speaker 5: you're you find people that are kind of in similar
Speaker 5: life phases, Like I get women that DM me about dating, divorced,
Speaker 5: dads with kids and how do you navigate that? And
Speaker 5: you know, like all these different things that they connect
Speaker 5: with you on And I think that's the thing is
Speaker 5: it's like that's what resonates, that's what sticks. Those are
Speaker 5: the people that are going to stick with you. So
Speaker 5: if you just go with your gut and like always
Speaker 5: stay true to that, that's what's gonna hold strong you know.
Speaker 6: I was also gonna say one of my favorite episode,
Speaker 6: whatever listener's favorite episode is the story about we were
Speaker 6: in a nail salon. I was just gonna go into
Speaker 6: the Voulderville thank you so much, and Tanya got up
Speaker 6: from the nail salon and parted, and it like kept
Speaker 6: going and it's like.
Speaker 7: We were hard story for twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: Every time I stepped, it was like it just kept
Speaker 6: farting walking and it kept I was like.
Speaker 5: I was in this phase of life where I was
Speaker 5: too sugar free gum, like it was like my job and.
Speaker 7: I didn't know the impact that it was going to.
Speaker 2: Happen GI and I got that impact.
Speaker 5: I felt the impact of listeners and it was like
Speaker 5: one of our most listened to podcasts.
Speaker 7: And it was like literally about me aarready get nails.
Speaker 6: I'm just learning about vulnerability, a real true life. And
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask a question that has nothing to
Speaker 6: do with that. I want to talk about you if
Speaker 6: you have pistol woman, since your Gray's anatomy day, but
Speaker 6: you're gonna do the answer, you know.
Speaker 4: My eyes were locked on hers.
Speaker 2: I was like, what is it going to come out
Speaker 2: of her next?
Speaker 6: And I had no answer. I want to know the answer.
Speaker 7: We're going to transition into scrubbing.
Speaker 6: In part two, The Stoking tapped on a steep and
Speaker 6: tapped in the street.