WEBVTT - Bush v. Gore: Episode 1 – Homestead

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<v Speaker 1>On Thanksgiving morning nineteen ninety nine, a Florida man from

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<v Speaker 1>outside Fort Lauderdale named Donado Dalrymple went on an impulse

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<v Speaker 1>fishing trip with his cousin. The water was choppy as

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<v Speaker 1>they took their motorboat out into the Atlantic Ocean in

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<v Speaker 1>search of Mahi mahi.

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<v Speaker 2>My cousin he said, look for seaweed and debris, anything

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<v Speaker 2>floating on the ocean. And I point out with my

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<v Speaker 2>finger and I said, like that inner tube that's there.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, Yeah, let's go around that inner tube.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalrymple was thirty nine years old and he wasn't much

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<v Speaker 1>of a fisherman. He owned a house cleaning business, which

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<v Speaker 1>he still does. Out on the water, he followed his

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<v Speaker 1>cousin's lead as they scouted for a good place to

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<v Speaker 1>throw out their lines. Then dal Rymple saw something.

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<v Speaker 2>We were about twenty five yards from the inner tube,

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<v Speaker 2>never that close to it, and I told my cousin,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there looks like there's somebody on there, but

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<v Speaker 2>they look like they're dead.

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<v Speaker 1>When dal Rymple got closer, he noticed a tiny hand

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<v Speaker 1>moving in the inner tube. His cousin jumped into the

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<v Speaker 1>water to investigate.

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<v Speaker 2>My cousin's in the water and he's screaming, it's a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's pushing up and I'm leaning over, almost falling

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<v Speaker 2>into the water. That's how rough the seas were, and

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<v Speaker 2>I snatched what we know today as Ellon Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleon Gonzalez was five years old. His mother had to

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<v Speaker 1>bring him to the United States from Cuba in a

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<v Speaker 1>small aluminum boat. He had just barely survived the journey.

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<v Speaker 1>His mother drowned along with ten other people. After dal

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<v Speaker 1>Rymple and his cousin brought Elean ashore, they delivered him

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<v Speaker 1>to the Coastguard. When it was discovered that Eleon had

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<v Speaker 1>a great uncle living in the Little Havana neighborhood of Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>the boy was sent to stay with him and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleon's story was seen as a miracle by some in

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<v Speaker 1>the local Cuban community.

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<v Speaker 3>He was highlighted in the local news. This little kid survived,

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<v Speaker 3>the mother died, everybody died.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Carlos Saladriguez, a Miami businessman who fled Cuba

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty one. Because of his deep ties to

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<v Speaker 1>the city's Cuban American community. Saladriguez was able to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the Elian Gonzales ordeal unfold from close range.

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<v Speaker 3>There were rumors circulating around that dolphins had saved the

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<v Speaker 3>kid from drowning and from being eaten by charge.

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<v Speaker 4>He was safe by God, but the dolphins.

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<v Speaker 5>Is a miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days after Eleon's rescue, his father back in

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba made it known that his son had been taken

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<v Speaker 1>to America without his permission.

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<v Speaker 6>The father, back in their hometown of Cardinis keeps asking

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<v Speaker 6>his son when he's coming back, and demanding his return

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<v Speaker 6>by the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>The custody battle instantly ballooned into a diplomatic crisis, as

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba's President Fidel Castro started putting pressure on the US

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<v Speaker 1>to send Elyon back.

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<v Speaker 7>Now to the young refug j caught in the custody

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<v Speaker 7>dispute between the US and Cuba today.

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<v Speaker 3>And that sort of became an opportunity to hidelight the

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<v Speaker 3>plight of the Cuban victims of the communists, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, he had all the qualities of becoming a

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<v Speaker 3>good political football.

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<v Speaker 6>Relatives here claim Eleon's father is being pressured by the

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<v Speaker 6>Cuban government to ask for his son's return.

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dade County was home to six hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Cuban Americans, many of them first generation exiles. These

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<v Speaker 1>were people who hated Cuba's communist regime with a passion

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<v Speaker 1>to them. It didn't make a difference what Eleon's father

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<v Speaker 1>or Fidel Castro said. The boy's life would obviously be

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<v Speaker 1>better if he was allowed to grow up in America.

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<v Speaker 1>The US government did not see it that way. In

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<v Speaker 1>January of two thousand, six weeks into Elyon's stay in Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>the Clinton administration announced that he would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>sent back to Cuba.

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<v Speaker 6>The US Attorney General Janet Reno says the child should

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<v Speaker 6>be returned to his father in Cuba as soon as possible,

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<v Speaker 6>especially in light of the hardships he endured coming to

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<v Speaker 6>this country.

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<v Speaker 1>The news did not go over well in Little Havana.

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<v Speaker 8>Dozens of Cuban Americans were arrested while protesting the US

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<v Speaker 8>government's decision to return Eleon Gonzalez to his father in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>A standoff ensued as Eleon's Miami relatives looked for ways

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was a child, he sort of brought down

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<v Speaker 3>the political issue and gave it a human face and

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<v Speaker 3>the face of a of a young child who lost

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<v Speaker 3>his mother. And it just became a very emotional and

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<v Speaker 3>deeply emotional issue, and it consumed the Quean American community

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<v Speaker 3>into that drama.

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<v Speaker 1>As the custody battle over Eleon dragged on, many Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>Americans in Miami came to despise the Clinton administration for

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<v Speaker 1>its handling of the case.

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<v Speaker 9>President Clinton, have you no shame.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the end, it was not Bill Clinton who

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<v Speaker 1>had to answer for the Elyon case. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy running to replace him.

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<v Speaker 10>Vice President Al Gore today formally declared himself a candidate

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<v Speaker 10>for the Democratic presidential nomination.

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<v Speaker 7>Today I announced that I am a candidate for President

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<v Speaker 7>of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Gore was five months into his presidential bid when DONALDO.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalrymple and his cousin pulled Eleon Gonzales out of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>There are those who believe that Gore's fate was sealed

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<v Speaker 1>right then and there, that the Elyon controversy placed the

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<v Speaker 1>vice president on the path to inevitable defeat in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you're about to hear, the real story of

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<v Speaker 1>Gore's loss in two thousand was messier, richer, and harder

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<v Speaker 1>to arrange in a straight line of cause and effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And none of it could have happened anywhere but Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This

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<v Speaker 1>is fiasco Bush v.

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<v Speaker 11>Gore.

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<v Speaker 12>The rice with the White House is incredibly close.

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<v Speaker 1>It's election like we haven't seen in decades.

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<v Speaker 10>Uncharted Territorge Tonight, the outcome and history itself on Home

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<v Speaker 10>and the battled ground is Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode one, Homestead. What happened in Florida before everything else

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in Florida. I'll just tell you now. Al

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<v Speaker 1>Gore lost Florida to George W. Bush by a margin

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<v Speaker 1>of five hundred and thirty seven votes out of nearly

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<v Speaker 1>six million cast. The outcome played out in slow motion

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty six days, as vote totals across the state

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<v Speaker 1>came under dispute, Hundreds of thousands of ballots were recounted,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two campaigns went to war with each other

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtrooms of Tallahassee. Now, many people believe, quite

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably that Gore lost the two thousand election because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way the recount played out in Florida. But the

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<v Speaker 1>roots of Gore's defeat can be traced back to the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest days of the campaign itself. Because what's striking when

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<v Speaker 1>you think back on two thousand is that, in most respects,

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamentals of the race were strongly in Gore's favor.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, Governor Bush likes to say that we should go

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<v Speaker 8>back to the policies of eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that reflects perhaps a fuzzy memory.

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<v Speaker 13>This is the asan al Gore's deck, as it were,

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<v Speaker 13>the strength of the economy.

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<v Speaker 11>It's probably too late for George W.

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<v Speaker 14>Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been vice president for nearly eight prosperous years.

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<v Speaker 1>The economy was booming, crime was down, the budget was balanced,

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<v Speaker 1>and the country was at peace. Yes, Bill Clinton's sex

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<v Speaker 1>scandal and impeachment created a serious challenge for Gore, but

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<v Speaker 1>on paper, at least, it should not have been that

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<v Speaker 1>hard for him to convince voters to stay with the

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<v Speaker 1>winning formula.

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<v Speaker 7>Bill Clinton worked hard to get this economy right, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pledging to you here today, i am not gonna

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<v Speaker 7>let the other side wreck it and take it away

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<v Speaker 7>from us. We're gonna keep the prosperity going.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened? What was it about Al Gore and

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<v Speaker 1>his candidacy and the way he ran his campaign that

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<v Speaker 1>made the race so incredibly close? The general election was

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<v Speaker 1>ten months away when the Clinton administration announced that Elian

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzales would have to be sent home to Cuba. The

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<v Speaker 1>situation placed Gore in political quicksand if he sided with

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<v Speaker 1>his own administration, he would surely forfeit the crucial Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>American vote in Miami to his Republican opponent. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he broke with the White House and pushed for l

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<v Speaker 1>On to stay in America, he would alienate his own party.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. Gore was never going to have

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<v Speaker 1>an easy time winning the Cuban American vote. For decades,

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<v Speaker 1>the perception had been that Democrats were soft on Castro

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<v Speaker 1>and soft on communism. In nineteen eighty, about eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cuban American vote in Dade County went from

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan and in nineteen eighty eight, the same percentage

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<v Speaker 1>voted for George HW. Bush.

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<v Speaker 14>President Bush is a beacon of hope for the millions

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<v Speaker 14>seeing Cuba who want liberty and democracy. President Bush has

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<v Speaker 14>shown his loyalty to the Q and people.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite that history, al Gore had reason to be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>For one thing, he had an ally in the powerful

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of Miami Dade County, Alex Penelis. The rare Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>American politician who also a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 15>Alex Panels has propelled himself to the center of South

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<v Speaker 15>Florida's political stage. He's making himself heard far beyond his state.

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<v Speaker 1>Panellus was considered a rising star in national politics. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine, he was named America's sexiest politician by

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<v Speaker 1>People magazine.

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<v Speaker 15>With two million constituents, he is Florida's second most powerful

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<v Speaker 15>politician after the governor, and some say the most influential

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<v Speaker 15>Hispanic politician in America.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to Penelus, Gore owe his chances in Little

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<v Speaker 1>Havana to Bill Clinton, who had made a steady and

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<v Speaker 1>concerted effort over the course of his presidency to make

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<v Speaker 1>inroads with the Cuban American community. Here's journalist Michael Grunwald,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote about Clinton's courtship of the Cuban American elite

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<v Speaker 1>in his book The Swamp.

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<v Speaker 5>And Bill Clinton is a political animal. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 5>a precinct by precinct vote counter, and he knows the demographics,

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<v Speaker 5>and he knows who matters in each demographic. And he

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<v Speaker 5>recognized that Cuban American voters who had been traditionally extremely

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<v Speaker 5>Republican could be made somewhat less Republican, and in Florida,

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<v Speaker 5>margins really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>The charm offensive dated all the way back to Clinton's

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<v Speaker 1>first presidential campaign. During that spring of nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton voiced his support for a hardline bill to intensify

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<v Speaker 1>the Cuban embargo, a bill that George H. W. Bush

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<v Speaker 1>initially declined to support. Then the following August, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Category five storm Hurricane Andrew caused twenty five billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in damage across South Florida, Clinton was presented with a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to build ties with the Cuban American power brokers

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<v Speaker 1>who would be steering the recovery effort. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst hit areas in Hurricane Andrew's path was a small

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<v Speaker 1>city in Dade County called Homestead. Before the storm, the

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<v Speaker 1>city's economy had revolved around the federally owned Homestead Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force Base.

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<v Speaker 16>Homestead received the most damaged.

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<v Speaker 17>Witnesses say almost every building was damaged, many destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Homestead Air Force Base was almost completely destroyed in the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>The base had been there since nineteen forty two and

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<v Speaker 1>had played an important role in military relations between Washington

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<v Speaker 1>and Havana. When more than a thousand prisoners of war

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<v Speaker 1>returned to the United States after being captured during the

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<v Speaker 1>failed Bay of Pigs invasion, they landed at Homestead.

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<v Speaker 18>It certainly looked like a happy New Year to the

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<v Speaker 18>eleven hundred and thirteen captives returning from Cuba. Homestead Air

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<v Speaker 18>Force Base, Florida was their first taste of freedom after

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<v Speaker 18>being Castro's prisoners for twenty months.

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<v Speaker 1>In Clinton, on a campaign swing through South Florida not

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<v Speaker 1>long after Hurricane Andrew visited the ruins of the Homestead

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base and made a promise that if elected president,

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<v Speaker 1>he would use the power of the federal government to

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<v Speaker 1>revitalize the area. Here's Michael Grunwald again.

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<v Speaker 5>So he had a sort of kitchen cabinet of some

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<v Speaker 5>prominent Cuban American advisors, and they let him know early

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<v Speaker 5>that Homestead Air Force Base was a good issue, not

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<v Speaker 5>just on the merits where it seemed like the right

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<v Speaker 5>thing to do to rebuild a destroyed air Force base,

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<v Speaker 5>but that it would be a way of sort of

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<v Speaker 5>signaling culturally that he cared about South Florida generally and

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<v Speaker 5>the sort of Cuban American slice of South Florida specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety four, a group of Cuban American investors

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<v Speaker 1>unveiled the proposal to convert Homestead Air Force Base into

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<v Speaker 1>a commercial airport. The proposal promised to turn Homestead into

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<v Speaker 1>a hub of international travel, but in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground, it needed the Clinton administration's approval.

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<v Speaker 5>It was federal land, you know, as a US air

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<v Speaker 5>Force base, and the Pentagon was going to be running

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<v Speaker 5>the show in terms of what to do with this land.

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<v Speaker 5>It was going to be a federal process, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the White House clearly was going to play a role

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<v Speaker 5>in directing the Pentagon which direction it wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 1>The promise of a brand new airport in Homestead gave

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton in an opening to forge political alliances with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban American power brokers who are pushing for it.

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<v Speaker 5>One way to show some of the Cuban elites that

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<v Speaker 5>he was on their side was to really emphasize his

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<v Speaker 5>support for this airport. He knew it was something that

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<v Speaker 5>they wanted, and he knew that those business and political

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<v Speaker 5>leaders had a fair amount of influence with making actual

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<v Speaker 5>votes and dollars happen.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this behind the scenes work paid off. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, Clinton managed to get between thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>and forty four percent of Miami's Cuban American vote. This

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing result helped Clinton become the first Democrat to win

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<v Speaker 1>Florida in twenty years. As Al Gore looked ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, it seemed possible that the Cuban community's goodwill

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<v Speaker 1>towards Clinton would carry over to him. But then Elian

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzales happened.

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<v Speaker 19>We will not forget Elyon, we will not forget his mother,

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<v Speaker 19>and we will not live peaceably and until we see freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Gore initially tried to step lightly around the Elyon issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I would insist, he told reporters upon due process of

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<v Speaker 1>law within the appropriate tribunal. On the substance, Gore was

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<v Speaker 1>putting distance between himself and the Clinton administration by saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the question of custody should not be handled by

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<v Speaker 1>federal immigration authorities. But as far as Bold stands go,

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<v Speaker 1>it left something to be desired and did not win

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<v Speaker 1>him a ton of credit. In Little Havana, George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, spoke about the Elyon issue simply

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<v Speaker 1>and freely. The boy should just be given US citizenship,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and his father should be allowed to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the United States and join him.

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<v Speaker 10>The man ought to be brought to the United States,

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<v Speaker 10>given a whiff of freedom so he can see how

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<v Speaker 10>wonderful our country is.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to say something about Cuban our hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 1>As anti Castro demonstrations flared around Miami Eli, young Gonzales

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<v Speaker 1>settled into a strange life under the glare of international

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<v Speaker 1>media attention.

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<v Speaker 10>Ellon today trying to roller skate outside his house in

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<v Speaker 10>Little Havana in its stand off with the government and

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<v Speaker 10>the boy's father.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days after his sixth birthday, his family took

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<v Speaker 1>him to Disney World, where he was followed around by

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<v Speaker 1>a pack of reporters and sheriff's deputies while people chanted

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<v Speaker 1>his name.

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<v Speaker 16>The case of the smiling six year old is so

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<v Speaker 16>entangled in American politics that even his new puppy came

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<v Speaker 16>from a member of Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Donardo Dalrymple meanwhile made regular visits to the house where

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<v Speaker 1>Ellion was staying, driving there most days after work to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time with the boy and his family.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt that I wanted to see this child again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not every day that you pull a

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<v Speaker 2>child out from the ocean, and I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>what was going to happen with his life.

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<v Speaker 20>What your name, sir, My name is Donado dal Rymple.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalrymple would regularly give interviews to the reporters camped out

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<v Speaker 1>in front of Ellon's house.

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<v Speaker 20>To see this gift of God. I believe that's what

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<v Speaker 20>he really is. To hang on the water for that

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<v Speaker 20>many days. I don't know how long it was, but

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<v Speaker 20>I mean, he's definitely a gift of God, and I'm

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<v Speaker 20>really privileged to be now to him.

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<v Speaker 21>That's awesome, Thank you, that is awesome.

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<v Speaker 22>What a beautiful kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon, Dalrymple became a media sensation in his own right.

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<v Speaker 23>So who is Donando Dalrymple, the man widely known as

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<v Speaker 23>the Fisherman.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Washington Post story headlined a Fisherman in his

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen Minutes, Dalrymple was cast as the Miami equivalent of kato' kalan,

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<v Speaker 1>the actor who lived in OJ Simpson's guest house and

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<v Speaker 1>briefly became famous after Simpson was charged with murder. In

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<v Speaker 1>the Post story, Dalrymple was described signing autographs and talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how Howard Stern had mentioned him on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>His own cousin, the same one who helped pull elli

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<v Speaker 1>On out of the water, was quoted in the story

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<v Speaker 1>saying that Dalrymple was a desperate man looking for publicity.

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<v Speaker 7>He says, you're.

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<v Speaker 19>Using the child for fame and glory, and that you

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<v Speaker 19>believed from the start a child should be with his father.

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<v Speaker 24>I like to tell my cousin I love him very

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<v Speaker 24>much and that it's very interesting, h how he's making

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<v Speaker 24>these accusations. I've never made an accusation towards him or anybody,

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<v Speaker 24>so I don't know where he's coming with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dal Rymple, who was born in Poughkeepsie, says he came

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<v Speaker 1>to identify with a Cuban American cause.

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<v Speaker 2>They embraced me as one of their own. And I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to literally hundreds of stories of older men that

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<v Speaker 2>were in political prisons in Cuba and they came here.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what made me see life a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different. Is when they seen Elion, they seen themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Dal Rymple absorbed a great deal from his new Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>American friends, including their resentment towards Clinton and their view

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<v Speaker 1>of al Gore as complicit in the administration's policies.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought that he was one and the same

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<v Speaker 2>with him. They served together, and those decisions were made together.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton just wasn't the be all end all. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he as a vice president, yet they have to

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<v Speaker 2>consult each other. And if al Gore thought different, he

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<v Speaker 2>might have stood up and said, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think this is right.

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<v Speaker 1>That winter Gore watched that the Clinton administration became more

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<v Speaker 1>and more radioactive in Little Havana.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to be a Democrat up to the time

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<v Speaker 4>of the Leon Gonzalez incident. My loyalty did not belong

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<v Speaker 4>in the Democratic Party. I believe that our government, the

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<v Speaker 4>United acting in the best interests of all Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>In March, the Cuban American National Foundation announced that it

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<v Speaker 1>would work actively against Gore's election. Meanwhile, on the Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>exile radio station Radio Mambi, an influential commentator named Armando

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<v Speaker 1>Perez Rua, sometimes referred to as the Cuban American Rush Limbaugh,

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<v Speaker 1>called on his listeners to punish their enemies with their votes.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the mayor of Miami Dade County, Cuban American Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Panelis, took a hard line against the Clinton administration.

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<v Speaker 9>And if the Justice Department's handling of this matter, if

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<v Speaker 9>their continued provocation leads to civil unrest and violence, we

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<v Speaker 9>are holding the federal government responsible and specific Lee Janet

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<v Speaker 9>Reno and the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 16>To some, Panella seemed to be inviting trouble when he

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<v Speaker 16>said local police would not participate if the government removed Elyon.

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<v Speaker 1>Panellis's aggressive stance was bad news for Gore, who had

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<v Speaker 1>been counting on the mayor's enthusiastic endorsement in his quest

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<v Speaker 1>to win over Cuban American voters. Penelos's support was Gore's

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<v Speaker 1>best chance to convince people that he was his own

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<v Speaker 1>man and that he shouldn't be held responsible for the

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<v Speaker 1>sins of the Clinton administration. On March thirtieth, two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>Gore made a dramatic bid to distance himself from Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>on the Elyon issue. He did so by coming out

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of proposed legislation that would allow Eleon to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the United States while his case was adjudicated.

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<v Speaker 10>The Vice President stepped elbows deep into the Elian Gonzales

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<v Speaker 10>controversy quite suddenly.

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<v Speaker 25>This afternoon, Vice President Gore, now running for president, said

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<v Speaker 25>that Congress should change the law.

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<v Speaker 10>That seems to put Gore in direct conflict with his

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<v Speaker 10>own administration, which says the fight over Elion is an

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<v Speaker 10>immigration issue, not the custody battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Gore's move looked transparently cynical. Republicans and Democrats alike criticized

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<v Speaker 1>him as a craven political chameleon.

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<v Speaker 25>Already some Democrats, Congresswoman Maxine Waters on our air earlier

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<v Speaker 25>when this news broke, said she would reconsider her support

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<v Speaker 25>for the Vice president.

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<v Speaker 17>I was just overwhelmed, surprised, blindsided. I didn't think he

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<v Speaker 17>would go so far as to support right wing legislation

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<v Speaker 17>that would give him permanent status, Nor did I expect.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days later, Gore went on The Today Show

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<v Speaker 1>to clarify his positions.

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<v Speaker 25>Mister Vice President, good morning, Good morning, Matt, how are you.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 22>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 11>It seems like we're about.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he was pushed on what he actually believed,

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<v Speaker 1>Gore seemed to equivocate.

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<v Speaker 25>With all due respect, you haven't answered my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Should he be given custody of his son if he

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<v Speaker 1>arrives in the United States?

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<v Speaker 25>If the father says on Free Soil that he believes

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<v Speaker 25>that the son should go back to Cuba with him, that,

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<v Speaker 25>of course, is likely to be determinative and will be determinative.

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Post ran a story the next day under

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<v Speaker 1>the headline, Gore struggles to explain his position on Elyon.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst part was that Gore's break with Clinton didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even seem to win him any points. One month after

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<v Speaker 1>his last ditch effort to get on the right side

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<v Speaker 1>of the Elyon issue, the Chicago Tribune quoted one Miami

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<v Speaker 1>resident saying that she wouldn't vote Democratic if Gore came

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<v Speaker 1>to Florida with a Cuban flag in his hands. That

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<v Speaker 1>more or less was where things stood. As Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>Janet Reno was conducting final negotiations with Eleon's Miami relatives.

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<v Speaker 1>The question at this point was not whether Eleon would

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<v Speaker 1>be sent back to his father, but how.

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<v Speaker 6>And when officials here say they're determined to reunite the

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<v Speaker 6>father with his son, they describe Attorney General Reno as

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<v Speaker 6>quote leaning toward action.

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<v Speaker 26>And if the Miami family resists, well, the government is

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<v Speaker 26>ready to plan to deal with that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night of April twenty second, TV crews, hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to be on hand for whatever was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>staked out Eleon's house from row of tents across the street.

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<v Speaker 14>As a crowd of Eddie Castro hardliners maintains its vigil

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<v Speaker 14>outside the Miami house.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside, Carlo Saladriguez, the Miami businessman you heard at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the show, was helping Ellion's family with the negotiations.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to think of this simple house. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a little living room, a couple of bedrooms, and in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the house was a family room in

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<v Speaker 3>a kitchen. That's where we were sitting. In that family room,

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<v Speaker 3>and in front of the house, there were hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>people demonstrating and there were media station even with towers

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<v Speaker 3>built so that they could film from higher up, and

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<v Speaker 3>mean everything was set up for a media show.

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<v Speaker 26>And so for now, much of the attention remains squarely

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<v Speaker 26>on that small house in the section of Miami they

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<v Speaker 26>call Little Havana, and the family inside that does not

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<v Speaker 26>seem anxious to give up that little boy.

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<v Speaker 1>DONALDO. Dalrymple was at his home in Broward County when

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<v Speaker 1>he heard on the news that Elyon might be seized

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<v Speaker 1>by federal agents at any moment. It was around ten

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock at night, but Dalrymple got in his car and

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<v Speaker 1>drove the roughly thirty miles to Miami. He made his

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<v Speaker 1>way past the reporters and into the house where Saladriguez

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<v Speaker 1>and lawyers for Eleon's relatives conducted negotiations, and Eleon was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fall asleep in his race car bed. At

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<v Speaker 1>five pin fifteen in the morning, three white vans carrying

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<v Speaker 1>a team of federal agents pulled up next to the house.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a battering ram at the door, and people

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<v Speaker 2>were screaming. There was mayhem. There was so much confusion

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and I thought to myself, I'm dreaming.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalrymple, who had been asleep on the living room couch,

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<v Speaker 1>stirred awake as twenty heavily armed agents broke through the

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<v Speaker 1>chain link gate in the front yard, sprang teargas and

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<v Speaker 1>yelling for the gathered crowd to disperse. Dalrymple grabbed Eleon

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<v Speaker 1>and ran into a closet as agents stormed the house

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<v Speaker 1>and demanded to know where the boy was. When one

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<v Speaker 1>of the agents pointed a gun at the closet where

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<v Speaker 1>Dalrymple was holding Eleon in his arms, a news photographer

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<v Speaker 1>captured the moment in an instantly iconic snapshot.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was occurring within seconds. A woman appears in

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<v Speaker 2>the room and right away I handed Ellon over to

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<v Speaker 2>this woman and they all I heard this word I heard,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's clear as I'm talking to you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard bingo and they ran out.

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<v Speaker 10>They got the boy.

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<v Speaker 13>They've got the boy.

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<v Speaker 11>They took the boy. They're got the boy.

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<v Speaker 13>Three minutes.

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<v Speaker 26>In three minutes, six year old elli On Gunzanes, dressed

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<v Speaker 26>in a T shirt, draped in fee was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Dell Rymple ran after the agents, carrying eli On to

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<v Speaker 1>the van parkin street.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go in this vehicle with them to

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<v Speaker 2>wherever they were taking him, just so he'd have a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of comfort. He knew me from the ocean, he

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<v Speaker 2>knew me from for months playing down there with him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was thinking in my mind, how did

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<v Speaker 2>this all go wrong? One minute we saved them, and

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<v Speaker 2>now they're coming in with guns to take them out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just so ugly and horrible. But they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let me in that vehicle, so I just I lingered

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<v Speaker 2>behind with the rest of everybody else as they sped

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<v Speaker 2>off down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon, Elian Gonzalez was in a US Marshall's plane, destined

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<v Speaker 1>for Washington, where his father would be waiting for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just after six am. As the plane took

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<v Speaker 1>off from Homestead Air Force Base. One of the federal

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<v Speaker 1>agents keeping Elion company opened the window shade next to

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<v Speaker 1>him so that he could see the sunrise over Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>In the aftermath of the raid, the Cuban American community

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami was left reeling, and their rage at the

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton administration intensified. Here is Carlos Saladriguez again.

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<v Speaker 3>The raid was the slap in the face. It was

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<v Speaker 3>sort of the hurt, the wound that took a long

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<v Speaker 3>time to heal. It was the snatching of this kid

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<v Speaker 3>from her mist that subtle became painful.

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton would never live it down, neither would al Gore.

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<v Speaker 1>The slogan that immediately took hold in Miami was we

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<v Speaker 1>will remember. In November, days before the election, Armando Perez Rua,

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<v Speaker 1>the Radio Mambi commentator, appeared with George W. Bush at

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<v Speaker 1>a rally in Florida and reminded the crowd to think

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<v Speaker 1>of Elion when they saw Gore's name on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>He was guilty by association. I don't think there is

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<v Speaker 3>another instance in the history of the United States where

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<v Speaker 3>you can look at one single evant and see clearly

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<v Speaker 3>that he decided the presidency of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that the raid on Elian Gonzales cost al

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<v Speaker 1>Gore the two thousand election hardened into conventional wisdom November seven,

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<v Speaker 1>when the vice president only received about half as many

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban American votes in Florida as Clinton did in ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a second controversy that played out in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida during the campaign, one that's much less well known

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<v Speaker 1>two decades later, but which was arguably no less decisive

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<v Speaker 1>in shaping the outcome of the race. This second controversy

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<v Speaker 1>was intertwined with the Elion case in tantalizing ways, and

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<v Speaker 1>Gore's handling of it was strikingly similar. Yet in some respects,

0:28:38.671 --> 0:28:41.631
<v Speaker 1>this one cut even deeper, both because it concerned an

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<v Speaker 1>issue that was uniquely close to Gore's heart and because

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<v Speaker 1>it lost him votes to a candidate who wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>trying to win.

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<v Speaker 16>Suddenly it's a two front war against George Bush and

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<v Speaker 16>a new headache, consumer advocate, Ralph Nader.

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<v Speaker 1>While George W. Bush nibbled at Gore's margins on the

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<v Speaker 1>right and in the center, Ralph Nader, representing the Green Party,

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<v Speaker 1>attacked him from the left.

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<v Speaker 21>Don't worry about George doy Buss. The problem is Al Gore.

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<v Speaker 21>We're going to pull Al Gore into progressive politics, and

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<v Speaker 21>he's not going to be pulled. He's going to lose,

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<v Speaker 21>and his Democratic Party's going to lose more and more

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<v Speaker 21>year after year.

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<v Speaker 1>Nader had been America's pre eminent consumer protection crusaders since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five, when he published Unsafe at Any Speed,

0:29:27.911 --> 0:29:31.711
<v Speaker 1>an indictment of the auto industry. Later, he found success

0:29:31.751 --> 0:29:34.951
<v Speaker 1>lobbying Congress to pass the Clean Water Act, the Whistleblower

0:29:34.991 --> 0:29:38.551
<v Speaker 1>Protection Act, and the Freedom of Information Act, But despite

0:29:38.671 --> 0:29:41.311
<v Speaker 1>encouragement from his legions of fans, it was not until

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen nineties that Nator decided to run for president.

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<v Speaker 22>Because the inequities of power lead to huge inequities of wealth,

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<v Speaker 22>which lead to huge inequities of income, which lead to

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<v Speaker 22>cruelty to the children in our country and their parents who.

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<v Speaker 11>Care got a decent paying job.

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<v Speaker 1>Nader's goal in two thousand was to win just five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the vote nationwide. That was the threshold for

0:30:08.351 --> 0:30:11.191
<v Speaker 1>securing public funding for the green Park in future elections.

0:30:11.791 --> 0:30:15.431
<v Speaker 1>But Nader's visibility throughout the race belied his modest ambitions.

0:30:16.351 --> 0:30:19.031
<v Speaker 1>By presenting himself as a fresh alternative to a corrupt

0:30:19.031 --> 0:30:22.470
<v Speaker 1>and self perpetuating two party system, he attracted the support

0:30:22.471 --> 0:30:25.991
<v Speaker 1>of young people, disaffected Democrats, and celebrities like Bill Murray,

0:30:26.151 --> 0:30:29.151
<v Speaker 1>Susan Sarandon, Anita Franco and Eddie Vedder.

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<v Speaker 3>All these other.

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<v Speaker 2>Rallies that Ralph's done with ten thousand people that hasn't

0:30:33.951 --> 0:30:34.671
<v Speaker 2>got any attention.

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<v Speaker 18>It's going to stop tonight because they can't ignore this.

0:30:39.711 --> 0:30:46.151
<v Speaker 2>May I love my commenture because my.

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<v Speaker 1>Computer While Bush and Gore held fundraising dinners for millionaires.

0:30:52.751 --> 0:30:55.391
<v Speaker 1>Nator sold cheap tickets to massive rallies at venues like

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Square Garden, and promoted the idea that Gore and Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>for all their supposed differences, were actually cut from the

0:31:01.751 --> 0:31:02.950
<v Speaker 1>same corporatist cloth.

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<v Speaker 11>Third world country.

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<v Speaker 22>Strike a harder bargain with these multinational corporations than we do.

0:31:10.031 --> 0:31:13.231
<v Speaker 11>You're gonna put a stuff to this once and for all.

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<v Speaker 2>With at.

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<v Speaker 1>Gore supporter saw Nader as a unique danger, a candidate

0:31:19.751 --> 0:31:22.151
<v Speaker 1>who could siphon just enough votes from the Democratic ticket

0:31:22.151 --> 0:31:24.591
<v Speaker 1>and key swing states that Bush could win them in

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<v Speaker 1>a squeaker Nader rejected this argument at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he still does.

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<v Speaker 13>Ralph Nader, the spoiler in two thousand, has no nuanced

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<v Speaker 13>the way that media covers these things, and they get

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<v Speaker 13>away with it by using the words spoiler.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ralph Nader speaking to me about his role

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<v Speaker 1>in the two thousand election.

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<v Speaker 13>It was not an exciting election. You had boring candidates.

0:31:48.151 --> 0:31:50.950
<v Speaker 13>Al Gore is very boring candidate. George W. Bush was

0:31:50.951 --> 0:31:55.311
<v Speaker 13>a boring candidate. Somebody counted once that Bush and Gore

0:31:55.551 --> 0:31:58.950
<v Speaker 13>agreed with each other over twenty times in one presidential debate.

0:31:59.671 --> 0:32:02.151
<v Speaker 1>Nator had known Gore for decades, and back in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and eighties he had considered him an ally, but

0:32:05.431 --> 0:32:07.911
<v Speaker 1>the Al Gore running for president in two thousand did

0:32:07.951 --> 0:32:11.231
<v Speaker 1>not strike Nader as a man who deserved theive vote well.

0:32:11.271 --> 0:32:13.871
<v Speaker 13>Because he was a front runner, he was too cautious,

0:32:14.271 --> 0:32:18.871
<v Speaker 13>and because he was too cautious, he didn't take pioneering stands,

0:32:19.431 --> 0:32:22.871
<v Speaker 13>and when napoles started closing in on him, he couldn't

0:32:22.871 --> 0:32:27.230
<v Speaker 13>make himself into the original Al Gore. He didn't know

0:32:27.311 --> 0:32:29.591
<v Speaker 13>who he was at any given time.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a common knock on Gore that he was

0:32:32.991 --> 0:32:35.271
<v Speaker 1>a shape shifter who didn't have a core identity and

0:32:35.311 --> 0:32:39.231
<v Speaker 1>took all his cues from polsters and political advisors. Early

0:32:39.231 --> 0:32:41.711
<v Speaker 1>in the campaign, he came in for criticism and ridicule

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<v Speaker 1>for hiring the feminist writer Naomi Wolf to serve as

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<v Speaker 1>an image consultant for fifteen thousand dollars a month. Even

0:32:48.671 --> 0:32:52.311
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Democrats saw Gore as inauthentic, tepid, and gauzy.

0:32:52.911 --> 0:32:55.751
<v Speaker 1>Here's Joan Walsh, who served as news editor at Salon

0:32:55.831 --> 0:32:58.471
<v Speaker 1>during the two thousand election and wrote what is arguably

0:32:58.471 --> 0:33:01.391
<v Speaker 1>the definitive analysis of Gore's political defects.

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<v Speaker 12>During the campaign, he would kind of pick up on

0:33:04.551 --> 0:33:10.391
<v Speaker 12>issues and drop them. He really couldn't find a theme,

0:33:10.671 --> 0:33:13.991
<v Speaker 12>a defining set of themes and stick to them, and

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<v Speaker 12>all of these things I think kind of came together

0:33:17.231 --> 0:33:19.591
<v Speaker 12>to create this image of a guy who didn't know

0:33:19.631 --> 0:33:20.311
<v Speaker 12>what he stood for.

0:33:21.031 --> 0:33:23.991
<v Speaker 1>Walsher members coming across an old photograph of Gore dressed

0:33:24.071 --> 0:33:27.871
<v Speaker 1>up for Halloween as Frankenstein's Monster, it just was.

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<v Speaker 12>Like, dude, don't do this, because this image of this

0:33:31.671 --> 0:33:34.991
<v Speaker 12>guy who's been stitched together and you know, parts that

0:33:35.071 --> 0:33:37.751
<v Speaker 12>don't fit and clothes that don't fit in bolts, and

0:33:37.791 --> 0:33:40.231
<v Speaker 12>you know, some of it was just the stiffness of

0:33:40.631 --> 0:33:43.311
<v Speaker 12>his persona, but also this sense that he had literally

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<v Speaker 12>been stitched together.

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<v Speaker 1>For a small but significant subset of the Florida electorate.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no better example of Gore's ideological wishy washiness

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<v Speaker 1>than his stance on a fairly obscure issue dating back

0:33:55.311 --> 0:33:59.230
<v Speaker 1>to the nineteen ninety two campaign. That issue was the

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<v Speaker 1>proposed redevelopment of Homestead Air Force Base. Homestead, as your recall,

0:34:05.351 --> 0:34:07.511
<v Speaker 1>was the city in Miami Dade County that was destroyed

0:34:07.551 --> 0:34:11.231
<v Speaker 1>by Hurricane Andrew. On the campaign that year, Bill Clinton

0:34:11.311 --> 0:34:14.111
<v Speaker 1>vowed to help rebuild the base and revive the local economy,

0:34:14.671 --> 0:34:16.431
<v Speaker 1>a commitment that endeared him to a group of Cuban

0:34:16.511 --> 0:34:19.671
<v Speaker 1>American power brokers in Miami who wanted to replace Homestead

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base with a new international airport. Here again

0:34:23.671 --> 0:34:24.991
<v Speaker 1>is reporter Michael Grunwald.

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<v Speaker 5>This was an incredibly lucrative opportunity. This was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a massive construction project. The idea was that it

0:34:31.230 --> 0:34:33.830
<v Speaker 5>was going to revitalize this area that was pretty downtrodden

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<v Speaker 5>even when the air base was functioning, and was in

0:34:37.671 --> 0:34:40.111
<v Speaker 5>real trouble now that the air base had been ripped

0:34:40.111 --> 0:34:40.591
<v Speaker 5>to shreds.

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<v Speaker 1>Among the most enthusiastic backers of the airport plan was

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<v Speaker 1>the Mayor of Miami Dade County, Alex Penelis.

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<v Speaker 23>Homestead Air Force Base has become all things to all people.

0:34:51.391 --> 0:34:54.671
<v Speaker 23>Miami Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas, as well as South

0:34:54.710 --> 0:34:58.871
<v Speaker 23>Miami Dade's political and business interests, support a commercial airport,

0:34:58.911 --> 0:35:01.911
<v Speaker 23>toutas bringing in thirty eight thousand jobs and a billion

0:35:01.951 --> 0:35:03.190
<v Speaker 23>dollars to the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a problem, though, Homestead was situated in between

0:35:07.671 --> 0:35:12.151
<v Speaker 1>two protected nature preserves Biscayne National Park to the east

0:35:12.311 --> 0:35:16.151
<v Speaker 1>and the Everglades National Park to the west. To environmentalists

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, the idea of building an airport so close

0:35:19.230 --> 0:35:22.151
<v Speaker 1>to these precious lands was obscene.

0:35:22.431 --> 0:35:27.631
<v Speaker 5>When Harry Truman established Everglades part and his speech was

0:35:27.671 --> 0:35:29.951
<v Speaker 5>about how this is going to be a place of solitude,

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<v Speaker 5>a place where Americans can come and appreciate the quiet

0:35:34.991 --> 0:35:38.951
<v Speaker 5>of nature. It's this kind of lonely quiet place is

0:35:39.031 --> 0:35:41.870
<v Speaker 5>part of what makes the Everglades the Everglades. I think

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<v Speaker 5>the idea that right on its doorstep there was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be this massive commercial airport seemed like it would

0:35:48.631 --> 0:35:54.111
<v Speaker 5>really take away from the uniqueness of the Everglades.

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<v Speaker 1>All through the nineties, as the airport plan slowly advanced

0:35:58.591 --> 0:36:02.751
<v Speaker 1>through layers of local and federal bureaucracy, environmentalists in Florida

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<v Speaker 1>fought it however they could.

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<v Speaker 23>The Sierra Club is launching a new campaign against the development.

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<v Speaker 23>Today's full page newspaper add his own the opening salvo,

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<v Speaker 23>and it is promising a protracted court battle if necessary.

0:36:15.831 --> 0:36:18.671
<v Speaker 1>Environmentalists in Florida had every reason to expect that during

0:36:18.710 --> 0:36:21.591
<v Speaker 1>the two thousand campaign, al Gore would come out against

0:36:21.591 --> 0:36:25.711
<v Speaker 1>the Homestead Airport plan. Even putting aside his overall record

0:36:25.750 --> 0:36:28.350
<v Speaker 1>on the environment, Gore had been a driving force behind

0:36:28.391 --> 0:36:33.151
<v Speaker 1>major legislation to fund Evergwaye's restoration. And yet whenever Gore

0:36:33.270 --> 0:36:36.191
<v Speaker 1>was asked about Homestead on the campaign trail, he seemed

0:36:36.190 --> 0:36:39.031
<v Speaker 1>only to hem in haw. Instead of just saying that

0:36:39.071 --> 0:36:41.790
<v Speaker 1>the airport was a terrible idea, Gore would have his

0:36:41.871 --> 0:36:44.671
<v Speaker 1>spokesman issue wan statements about how it wasn't appropriate for

0:36:44.750 --> 0:36:47.311
<v Speaker 1>him to weigh in. The air Force was still conducting

0:36:47.351 --> 0:36:50.230
<v Speaker 1>an environmental impact study, and the Vice President did not

0:36:50.351 --> 0:36:52.710
<v Speaker 1>want to pre judge the project until the results were in.

0:36:53.911 --> 0:36:57.270
<v Speaker 1>At one point, Gore took the incendiary position that continued

0:36:57.311 --> 0:37:00.511
<v Speaker 1>discussion was needed of how a balanced solution can be

0:37:00.551 --> 0:37:03.871
<v Speaker 1>found that can help the community without hurting the environment.

0:37:04.391 --> 0:37:08.671
<v Speaker 5>Gore had a choice to make, and he decided to

0:37:08.750 --> 0:37:10.911
<v Speaker 5>avoid the choice. It was waffle City.

0:37:12.230 --> 0:37:15.750
<v Speaker 1>What was going on. Gore was the most prominent environmentalist

0:37:15.750 --> 0:37:19.190
<v Speaker 1>in American politics, the guy who, back in nineteen eighty one,

0:37:19.471 --> 0:37:22.351
<v Speaker 1>had held the first ever Congressional hearings on global warming.

0:37:23.151 --> 0:37:25.591
<v Speaker 1>As Vice President, Gore had traveled to Kyoto to help

0:37:25.671 --> 0:37:29.471
<v Speaker 1>negotiate a transformative international treaty to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

0:37:30.230 --> 0:37:32.471
<v Speaker 1>Gore had never been shy about his passion for the environment,

0:37:33.190 --> 0:37:35.310
<v Speaker 1>not even when his political rivals made fun of him,

0:37:35.431 --> 0:37:38.031
<v Speaker 1>as President George H. W. Bush did in nineteen ninety

0:37:38.031 --> 0:37:40.631
<v Speaker 1>two when he coined a special nickname for his opponent's

0:37:40.671 --> 0:37:41.951
<v Speaker 1>running mate.

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<v Speaker 27>If you listen to Governor Clinton and ozone Man, if

0:37:45.031 --> 0:37:47.591
<v Speaker 27>you listen to them, you know why I call him

0:37:47.591 --> 0:37:51.071
<v Speaker 27>ozone Man. This guy is so far off, and the

0:37:51.270 --> 0:37:54.710
<v Speaker 27>environmental extreme will be up to our neck in owls

0:37:54.750 --> 0:37:56.710
<v Speaker 27>and out of work for every American.

0:37:57.431 --> 0:37:58.871
<v Speaker 1>This guy's crazy.

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<v Speaker 11>Is way out, far out man.

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<v Speaker 1>Given this history, environmentalists in Florida were infuriated by Gore's

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<v Speaker 1>refusal to come out against the Homestead Airport plan. One

0:38:12.071 --> 0:38:15.071
<v Speaker 1>activist told The Washington Monthly that gore silence on the

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<v Speaker 1>issue called into question whether he himself knew what his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign stood for. In a column for The Miami Herald,

0:38:21.750 --> 0:38:25.471
<v Speaker 1>Florida novelist Karl Hyason wrote that Gore, who claims the

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<v Speaker 1>greenest pro environmental credentials of all the presidential candidates, is

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<v Speaker 1>showing a flash of yellow by deciding to wimp out

0:38:31.710 --> 0:38:35.750
<v Speaker 1>and keep quiet on South Florida's most controversial environmental issue.

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<v Speaker 5>The Gore people could not believe they were even having

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<v Speaker 5>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Their attitude was, where else are environmentalists going to go?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's Al Gore, leave us alone, and the

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<v Speaker 5>environmentalist did not agree to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Three weeks before the election, the Gore campaign sought to

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<v Speaker 1>quell the growing mutiny in South Florida by sending a

0:38:58.311 --> 0:39:01.790
<v Speaker 1>pair of Gore's advisors, Mitchell Berger and Katie McGuinty, to

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<v Speaker 1>meet with environmentalist groups at the South Miami headquarters of

0:39:04.631 --> 0:39:08.830
<v Speaker 1>the Tropical Audubon Society. During this tense meeting, McGuinty and

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<v Speaker 1>Berger tried to convince the assembled group that Gore was

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<v Speaker 1>on their side.

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<v Speaker 28>Here's Berger I remember saying to them, this man went

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<v Speaker 28>to Kyoto and his risk, sacrificing his entire career for

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<v Speaker 28>what he believes.

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<v Speaker 29>And this man, I know.

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<v Speaker 30>For a fact, orchestrated the purchase of forty thousand acres

0:39:35.351 --> 0:39:38.790
<v Speaker 30>in the middle of the Everglades and fought everyone in

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<v Speaker 30>the administration to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>They were just making the case. You know, Al Gore

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<v Speaker 5>is one of you. He has spent his entire career

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<v Speaker 5>fighting for places like the Everglades and specifically the Everglades.

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<v Speaker 5>Why are you torturing him over this issue that is

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<v Speaker 5>going to potentially cost him the election.

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<v Speaker 1>The anti airport activists were not impressed. Take our friendship

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<v Speaker 1>back to the vice president. One of them said to mcguinteenberger,

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<v Speaker 1>only a true friend will tell you what you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear. You are going to lose this election

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<v Speaker 1>because of Homestead. If gordonn't condemned the airport plan, the

0:40:15.631 --> 0:40:19.191
<v Speaker 1>activist said, a lot of environmentalists were going to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Ralph Nader. The environmental controversy around the Homestead Airport

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<v Speaker 1>was a perfect issue for Ralph Nader. It was a coherent,

0:40:41.270 --> 0:40:43.791
<v Speaker 1>little emblem of everything that was wrong with Al Gore.

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<v Speaker 1>During the final days of the election, Nader embraced Homestead

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<v Speaker 1>with Gusto while campaigning in Florida.

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<v Speaker 13>I was at the Radison Center in South Florida, and

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<v Speaker 13>it was packed, and all they wanted to talk about

0:40:58.391 --> 0:41:01.791
<v Speaker 13>was the fungus attack that was destroying the citrus trees

0:41:02.671 --> 0:41:06.510
<v Speaker 13>and the Homestead Air Force Base. And again and again

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<v Speaker 13>the questions were, why doesn't Gore come out of it.

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<v Speaker 13>A woman came up to me and kept saying he

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<v Speaker 13>would get so many votes if you would just put

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<v Speaker 13>out a statement, even now, this late in the game,

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<v Speaker 13>and I too raised the question, why isn't Gore opposing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Nader believed that the answer was purely political. Gore was

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of alienating the Cuban American leaders who had been

0:41:33.631 --> 0:41:37.230
<v Speaker 1>pushing the airport project since Hurricane Andrew. The person Gore

0:41:37.311 --> 0:41:41.950
<v Speaker 1>was most concerned with appeasing, Nator thought was Alex Penellis. Now,

0:41:42.111 --> 0:41:43.990
<v Speaker 1>the game theory here is a little tricky to parts,

0:41:44.471 --> 0:41:47.391
<v Speaker 1>but the idea was that Gore, having lost Cuban Americans

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<v Speaker 1>because of the Elon raid, was trying to salvage whatever

0:41:50.270 --> 0:41:53.431
<v Speaker 1>support he could by playing nice with penelas Al.

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<v Speaker 5>Gore was clearly concerned about the Cuban vote, but after

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<v Speaker 5>Eleon one environmentalist told him, look, it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 5>you come out tomorrow for landing the one hundred and

0:42:03.871 --> 0:42:07.870
<v Speaker 5>first airborne in Havana. You've lost the Cuban vote. You

0:42:07.911 --> 0:42:10.350
<v Speaker 5>are screwed with the Cuban vote. You have got to

0:42:10.431 --> 0:42:13.191
<v Speaker 5>tend to your base, and you are losing your base

0:42:13.391 --> 0:42:15.071
<v Speaker 5>because of Homestead Air Force Base.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Berger, Gore's friend and advisor, told me unequivocally that

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to Homestead, Gore was not acting out

0:42:22.431 --> 0:42:26.071
<v Speaker 1>of political calculation. The actual reason for his reticence was

0:42:26.151 --> 0:42:29.190
<v Speaker 1>much more mundane. Burger said, he really did just want

0:42:29.190 --> 0:42:31.591
<v Speaker 1>to wait until the Air Force finished its study, because

0:42:31.591 --> 0:42:34.911
<v Speaker 1>if he interfered beforehand, the developers would have standing to sue.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not a reflection of Gore's cowardice or cynicism,

0:42:38.471 --> 0:42:40.671
<v Speaker 1>but rather his commitment to process.

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<v Speaker 29>Gore said, I cannot prejudge this publicly by law, and

0:42:47.831 --> 0:42:51.351
<v Speaker 29>that is what the boy scout did. He said, until

0:42:51.391 --> 0:42:57.431
<v Speaker 29>it is re reviewed, I cannot prejudge it, and that's

0:42:57.471 --> 0:43:03.631
<v Speaker 29>technically correctly true under the law. Notwithstanding what he said,

0:43:03.750 --> 0:43:04.591
<v Speaker 29>no one heard it.

0:43:05.391 --> 0:43:08.310
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the merits of his position, Gore's refusal to take

0:43:08.351 --> 0:43:11.071
<v Speaker 1>a stand on Homestead fit easily into a storyline that

0:43:11.111 --> 0:43:13.511
<v Speaker 1>his opponents on both the right and the left had

0:43:13.511 --> 0:43:16.431
<v Speaker 1>been tapping into all through the election. That he didn't

0:43:16.431 --> 0:43:19.111
<v Speaker 1>know who he was, that he wasn't willing or able

0:43:19.391 --> 0:43:22.231
<v Speaker 1>to say what he really thought, that even on the environment,

0:43:22.351 --> 0:43:25.551
<v Speaker 1>he was driven to equivocate in the same way Gore's

0:43:25.551 --> 0:43:27.951
<v Speaker 1>avowal of due process in the Ellon case had fallen

0:43:27.991 --> 0:43:31.270
<v Speaker 1>on deaf ears in Little Havanah. Gore's strict adherence to

0:43:31.270 --> 0:43:34.750
<v Speaker 1>procedure in the Homestead controversy read to his critics as

0:43:34.791 --> 0:43:38.391
<v Speaker 1>a cop out, and that provided an opening for Ralph Nader.

0:43:39.190 --> 0:43:44.270
<v Speaker 29>Nader amplified the narrative, and Nader was happy to use

0:43:44.351 --> 0:43:47.830
<v Speaker 29>his ego to say this is why Gore is no

0:43:47.911 --> 0:43:49.231
<v Speaker 29>different than anyone else.

0:43:50.351 --> 0:43:52.830
<v Speaker 1>It's worth noting that if Nader was right about al

0:43:52.871 --> 0:43:55.991
<v Speaker 1>Gore's motivations on Homestead, if he really did hold his

0:43:56.071 --> 0:43:58.511
<v Speaker 1>tongue because he was trying to placate Alex Panellis and

0:43:58.551 --> 0:44:01.350
<v Speaker 1>make up for Elion, the plan didn't work at all.

0:44:02.431 --> 0:44:04.991
<v Speaker 1>Starting in the fall of two thousand, Panellis declined to

0:44:05.031 --> 0:44:08.271
<v Speaker 1>speak out in Gore's favor even once, and three weeks

0:44:08.270 --> 0:44:10.751
<v Speaker 1>before the election, he left town for trip to Spain.

0:44:12.111 --> 0:44:19.031
<v Speaker 29>Alex Penellis, instead of endorsing Gore, left town deliberately left

0:44:19.111 --> 0:44:22.790
<v Speaker 29>him at the podium in front of the Cuban community.

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<v Speaker 29>Anyone who says that that didn't hurt Gore more than

0:44:27.591 --> 0:44:32.551
<v Speaker 29>anything in Florida doesn't understand in my view of Florida politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Penellis, who declined to be interviewed for this podcast, became

0:44:37.671 --> 0:44:40.151
<v Speaker 1>something of a pariah within the Democratic Party after the

0:44:40.190 --> 0:44:43.391
<v Speaker 1>two thousand election. When he ran for a Florida Senate

0:44:43.391 --> 0:44:45.710
<v Speaker 1>seat in two thousand and four, al Gore issued a

0:44:45.710 --> 0:44:49.191
<v Speaker 1>statement calling him the single most treacherous and dishonest person

0:44:49.190 --> 0:44:53.551
<v Speaker 1>he dealt with during the entire campaign. As for the

0:44:53.551 --> 0:44:58.111
<v Speaker 1>Homestead Airport, it was never built, labeling the project inappropriate,

0:44:58.431 --> 0:45:01.191
<v Speaker 1>the Air Force killed it just days before Bush took office.

0:45:02.991 --> 0:45:05.790
<v Speaker 1>All these years later, it's impossible to know how many

0:45:05.871 --> 0:45:08.431
<v Speaker 1>votes Gore lost by refusing to speak out against the

0:45:08.511 --> 0:45:12.230
<v Speaker 1>Homestead Airport, but there are those who believe confidently that

0:45:12.270 --> 0:45:15.791
<v Speaker 1>it cost him the election. Among them is Ralph Nader,

0:45:16.311 --> 0:45:18.870
<v Speaker 1>who received ninety seven thousand votes in Florida in two

0:45:18.871 --> 0:45:22.111
<v Speaker 1>thousand and who is bold enough in our conversation to

0:45:22.190 --> 0:45:25.031
<v Speaker 1>draw a causal link between Gore's stance on Homestead and

0:45:25.071 --> 0:45:26.071
<v Speaker 1>the invasion of Iraq.

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<v Speaker 13>The tragedy is in the fate of human affairs. One

0:45:31.391 --> 0:45:34.871
<v Speaker 13>can have a direct link between the loss of the

0:45:34.991 --> 0:45:39.230
<v Speaker 13>votes on the Homestead issue and a million dead iraqis

0:45:40.151 --> 0:45:44.271
<v Speaker 13>that's the way the winner take all system works. But who,

0:45:44.351 --> 0:45:45.710
<v Speaker 13>of course, could have predicted that.

0:45:50.431 --> 0:45:52.871
<v Speaker 1>It's easy to spot mistakes when you look back at history.

0:45:53.710 --> 0:45:55.910
<v Speaker 1>When you know how everything started and what it took

0:45:55.911 --> 0:45:58.111
<v Speaker 1>for it to end, it doesn't require a lot of

0:45:58.151 --> 0:46:01.591
<v Speaker 1>imagination to say, ah, if they'd done ex instead of why,

0:46:01.991 --> 0:46:05.510
<v Speaker 1>it would have all turned out differently. Regardless of whether

0:46:05.551 --> 0:46:08.230
<v Speaker 1>you think al Gore should have won the election, there

0:46:08.230 --> 0:46:10.311
<v Speaker 1>are lots of hinge points like that in the story

0:46:10.351 --> 0:46:13.431
<v Speaker 1>of how he ended up losing. If only Gore had

0:46:13.471 --> 0:46:16.351
<v Speaker 1>broken more sharply with the Clinton administration on Elian Gonzales,

0:46:16.791 --> 0:46:19.191
<v Speaker 1>maybe he wouldn't have lost as many Cuban Americans to Bush.

0:46:20.230 --> 0:46:23.270
<v Speaker 1>If only he had condemned the Homestead Airport plan, maybe

0:46:23.270 --> 0:46:27.431
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have lost as many Florida environmentalists to Nadir. Remember,

0:46:27.791 --> 0:46:30.471
<v Speaker 1>this election was ultimately decided by just five hundred and

0:46:30.471 --> 0:46:34.230
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven votes, with a margin that then it's not

0:46:34.270 --> 0:46:36.471
<v Speaker 1>a stretch to say that one tiny decision out of

0:46:36.511 --> 0:46:39.911
<v Speaker 1>god knows how many actually was responsible for the outcome.

0:46:41.151 --> 0:46:43.431
<v Speaker 1>And if our goal with this first episode of Fiasco

0:46:43.831 --> 0:46:46.391
<v Speaker 1>was to explore why the two thousand election was so close,

0:46:47.031 --> 0:46:49.271
<v Speaker 1>we could have focused on so many other things besides

0:46:49.311 --> 0:46:53.151
<v Speaker 1>Elyon and Homestead, so many little subplots that moved the

0:46:53.230 --> 0:46:56.710
<v Speaker 1>vote one way or another, we could have talked about

0:46:56.710 --> 0:46:58.911
<v Speaker 1>how George W. Bush benefited from the fact that his

0:46:58.951 --> 0:47:02.071
<v Speaker 1>brother Jeb was the governor of Florida, Or if we

0:47:02.111 --> 0:47:03.991
<v Speaker 1>wanted to come at it from the other direction and

0:47:04.071 --> 0:47:07.270
<v Speaker 1>explore how Gore came within spitting distance of victory, we

0:47:07.270 --> 0:47:09.830
<v Speaker 1>could have talked about Jeb's effort to end affirmative action

0:47:09.871 --> 0:47:13.071
<v Speaker 1>in Florida and how that helped Gore by inspiring a

0:47:13.111 --> 0:47:17.151
<v Speaker 1>massive voter registration movement among black voters. The point is

0:47:17.190 --> 0:47:19.191
<v Speaker 1>the two thousand election was close for about a million

0:47:19.270 --> 0:47:22.790
<v Speaker 1>different reasons, and because it was so close, because so

0:47:22.871 --> 0:47:26.551
<v Speaker 1>many of the subplots were plausibly decisive, every little detail

0:47:26.551 --> 0:47:31.710
<v Speaker 1>looks incredibly high stakes in retrospect. This six part podcast

0:47:31.750 --> 0:47:33.751
<v Speaker 1>will tell the story of how the two thousand election

0:47:33.911 --> 0:47:36.190
<v Speaker 1>turned out the way it did, and what it was

0:47:36.311 --> 0:47:39.551
<v Speaker 1>like during those five shaky weeks after election Day, when

0:47:39.551 --> 0:47:41.471
<v Speaker 1>no one in the country knew who the next president

0:47:41.511 --> 0:47:44.351
<v Speaker 1>was going to be, and every little zig and zag

0:47:44.551 --> 0:47:48.230
<v Speaker 1>looked like it might decide the result. The process of

0:47:48.270 --> 0:47:51.750
<v Speaker 1>breaking the two thousand stalemate was, by turns chaotic and deadening.

0:47:52.710 --> 0:47:55.511
<v Speaker 1>More than anything, it was a collective act of frantic

0:47:55.551 --> 0:48:00.390
<v Speaker 1>improvisation conducted by a throne together cast of bureaucrats, partisans,

0:48:00.431 --> 0:48:04.511
<v Speaker 1>and white collar gladiators. Along the way, all kinds of

0:48:04.591 --> 0:48:09.671
<v Speaker 1>boundaries were scrambled, between lawyers and politicians, between truth and narrative,

0:48:10.270 --> 0:48:22.391
<v Speaker 1>between hypocrisy and hustle. At around midnight and November seventh,

0:48:22.710 --> 0:48:25.910
<v Speaker 1>seven hours before poles were set to open, Al Gore

0:48:25.991 --> 0:48:31.071
<v Speaker 1>was in Miami Beach leading one last rally. Gore may

0:48:31.071 --> 0:48:33.031
<v Speaker 1>have lost Alex Panelis and the rest of the Cuban

0:48:33.071 --> 0:48:36.830
<v Speaker 1>American community. He may have lost the environmentalists, but here

0:48:36.871 --> 0:48:40.391
<v Speaker 1>he was flanked by John bon Jovi, Stevie Wonder, and

0:48:40.471 --> 0:48:45.671
<v Speaker 1>Ben Affleck. Despite Elyon, despite Homestead, Gore's numbers in Florida

0:48:45.710 --> 0:48:48.351
<v Speaker 1>had him running dead, even with Bush, who was seventy

0:48:48.351 --> 0:48:50.751
<v Speaker 1>three degrees in the middle of the night, and Gore's

0:48:50.791 --> 0:48:59.551
<v Speaker 1>crowd was energized. Addressing his supporters, Gore tried to articulate

0:48:59.591 --> 0:49:02.071
<v Speaker 1>what was at stake in the two thousand election. He

0:49:02.151 --> 0:49:04.790
<v Speaker 1>spoke clearly and emphatically in a way that had often

0:49:04.831 --> 0:49:06.111
<v Speaker 1>eluded him during the campaign.

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<v Speaker 8>We in this nation have the ability in this US

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<v Speaker 8>election to make the United States of America what America

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<v Speaker 8>is intended to be. I asked for your help and

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<v Speaker 8>your vote, because I want to fight for you.

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<v Speaker 11>God, bless you, Florida, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about to be over no matter what. In

0:49:32.511 --> 0:49:35.511
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours, the campaign would be done and the

0:49:35.551 --> 0:49:41.591
<v Speaker 1>country would have a new president elect. Well probably, as

0:49:41.631 --> 0:49:44.991
<v Speaker 1>Gore's top strategist saw it, there was a conceivable scenario

0:49:45.031 --> 0:49:48.511
<v Speaker 1>that would take the game into overtime. Based on all

0:49:48.551 --> 0:49:51.830
<v Speaker 1>the available data, it seemed possible that Gore would win

0:49:51.871 --> 0:49:55.871
<v Speaker 1>the electoral College, but Bush would win the popular vote.

0:49:56.230 --> 0:49:59.831
<v Speaker 1>The Gore team was worried if that happened, how is

0:49:59.871 --> 0:50:02.671
<v Speaker 1>the vice president going to convince the American people that

0:50:02.750 --> 0:50:11.710
<v Speaker 1>his victory was legitimate? On the next episode of Fiasco,

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<v Speaker 1>how election analysts working with America's top news networks got

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand election wrong, not once, but twice in

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<v Speaker 1>a single night.

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<v Speaker 12>As much as we honestly believe that you don't want elections,

0:50:22.951 --> 0:50:25.151
<v Speaker 12>so you have all the numbers, in some ways you

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<v Speaker 12>can win or lose an election based on what.

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<v Speaker 1>The TVs say. For a list of books, articles, and

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries that we relied on in our research, click the

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<v Speaker 1>link in the show notes. Fiasco is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>Prolog projects, and it's distributed by Pushkin Industries. The show

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