WEBVTT - What Nick Fuentes and the Met Gala Have in Common | MiniPod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:08.399 with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:15.920 We're already a non white country. Get a grip, Get real, bro, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.919 this is already. We already live in Mogadishu. We already 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.680 live in Islamabad. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:24.600 Have you been. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.400 Outside La Chicago. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:27.560 New York? 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.840 We live in nigger hell. And that's just what and 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.839 you know what it is. I got my James fishback. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.559 I shouldn't have said, shouldn't have said nigger hell with the. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:42.920 With the quarter. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.760 I told myself before the show. I was like, don't 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.800 say anything out of pocket. You're repping the campaign. Now. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.839 I'm not on the campaign. I'm not involved, but I 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.840 was like, don't say anything too crazy. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:56.960 I'm sorry. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.480 Out of my apologies, oologies to the campaign. I was 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.200 literally like, don't don't say anything too crazy. And then 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.240 it's like, shouldn't have shouldn't have said that with the 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.600 quarter zip on, but you know what, whatever, it's fine. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:17.240 Welcome y'all. This is a mini pod. And that was Angela. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.040 A dumb ho named Nick flintis a dumb hoe named 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.000 Nick flintis, and it's not because he got the quarter 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.880 zip on. It's because he got a quarter mouth, and 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.520 I wish she would run up on somebody black talking 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.440 that crazy. I'm outside though, Yeah he don't, and he 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:33.240 better hope you don't. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.920 When he said as Lumbabad, I was just thinking the 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.680 issue have you ever left? Have you? I don't know 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.880 where you live, but I see he's got the Florida 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.280 state flag on his shoulder. Y'all. Before we hop into this, 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.640 this is this is us having not finished a topic 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.640 we wanted to get into in this week's main episode 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.080 around being built for the moment that all of us 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:58.400 find ourselves encountering. And it was with sort of the 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.600 met galle as the background. There's folks, are you know, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:05.960 looking great and fantastic and rich and wealthy with the 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.320 billionaires who are paying for all the shit, and we 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.280 got people who can't find hope in most corners of 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.520 their day. And it did raise the question, I think 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.200 for a couple of us of like, all right, like 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.040 the same normal times and Angela, you've been saying the 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.280 same normal time since we left the campus of Howard University, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.760 probably before, but I don't think I think you said 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.799 it most aggressively after that but speaking of not miss, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:35.840 you know, not being with the times, there are no 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:41.440 more whispers about racism. This dude is a bullhorn. But 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.200 he also if he was regretting any of it, the 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.240 mother could have not posted it, right, I mean, I guess, 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.639 but I don't want to talk about him anymore, Angela. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.960 No, back cut, back up, back up, real quick. He 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.120 has he has tens of thousands of donors, and he 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.280 has one point three million followers on X So this 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.440 isn't some random individual that we just got off. And he, 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.600 for a long period of time, helped dictate policy, creates 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.880 a whole group of they call gropers or whatever they're called. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.440 He's in the in cell culture and he's a huge 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.400 MAGA supporter make America great again. And you know, I 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.239 don't he is a part of the fabric of who 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.600 this country is. To discount that I think is not 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:22.440 a true different. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:28.960 Yeah, absolutely don't discount it. And also recognize when a 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.480 person is not in my league exactly. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.400 But I'm sorry, now, Angela, I just wanted to give 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.320 him context. 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:46.760 I am concerned about our continual response that somebody is 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:47.880 beneath us. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.000 Or not in our not even not even on the 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:52.600 same page. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.640 But the reason why I'm concerned about it is because 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.640 it is very clear that the people that hold the 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.360 key is to power in this country are of the 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.480 same mindset as Nick Finch. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.760 Totally right, and so I want us to be yes. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.920 I want us to be hyper aware of what they 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.760 are telling each other on their podcast, on their platforms, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.240 in their private conversations, because we're not going to be 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.760 equipped for a fight when we don't know what's going on. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.479 And let me get let me get everybody straight real quick, 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.320 because I read the long form piece about who Nick 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.120 quintess is to be over an hour to make it 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:39.560 through this exhaustive piece of work, and he spends eight 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.080 hours a day talking to people similarly situated across the internet. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.719 He has millions of followers and retweets and downloads and 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.279 says a lot of hateful, angry shit, and made a 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.520 break with Donald Trump a couple of weeks ago on 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:01.039 his podcast, led by his listeners firstly following them down 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.000 the road that he doesn't want a Trumper, he wants 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:09.039 more of him, he wants his name centerfold. And there 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.200 are plenty of creatures walking, breathing, speaking, likely thought to 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.520 be intellectual amongst themselves who are giving him lots of 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.640 time of day. But I think we should recognize that 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:26.640 he is playing an old hand, that vitriol, racism, hatred 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:32.680 has been in form has been in vogue for white 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:38.560 people just like him to listen, breathe upon contemplate on shit. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.159 I used to listen to it when I was in 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.920 middle in high school, listening to right wing radio on 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:50.000 AM in FM radio, So very familiar with these voices 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.000 Laura Ingram before folks who pronounced her name was listening 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:59.280 to her. And so he isn't new, he is not shiny, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.200 he's not even very good at it. He just happens 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.400 to be tapping on with Donald Trump tapped into it first, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.200 which is exactly the white racist folks that are out 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.640 there that have been in vogue since the forming of 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:16.880 this country and are still in volgue today and are 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.120 still in power. And he's giving them basically right back 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.320 what they already know, think and believe. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.200 I guess my thing is, you know, you've asked this 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.680 really important question, Andrew, about what it takes, what it 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.040 will take for us to meet the moment. And I 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.159 think that we have to be clear about who the 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.479 enemy is. You know, we have to know that. It's 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.479 a fundamental of the art of war. And I think 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.760 we also have to know the terms of their fight. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.200 I don't think that that means we have to fight 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.400 on their terms, but we should be aware of the 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.520 terms of their fight. You know, America First is an 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.000 ideology that excludes the people who built it. Make America 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.880 Great Again presumes that America has ever been great in 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.280 its history. The things that they tell each other are 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.520 rooted in fear and hatred for people who they don't 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.600 want to have to share space or more importantly, power with. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.760 And so I think that we've got to be informed 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:22.960 about what their pathway forward is. And their pathway forward 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:29.040 is on our next, on our backs, and fully behind us. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.160 They want to return to the past when you know, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.920 remember when they first asked people when was America its greatest? 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.640 When they were championing this make America Great Again line, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:43.400 It was in the fifties, before things were integrated for us, right, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.560 And so I think we just have to be mind before. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.080 Women worked out of the home, before women could you know, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.400 exercise themselves in this free America or free Floyd. If 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.960 you live where I live, I agree with that one 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.920 thousand percent. And I fully believe in researching and reading 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.440 about what the opposition is doing and how they're doing it, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.000 and so on and so forth. That isn't that's not 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.040 my beef with the guy. It's much it's it's it's 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.160 much more about as my grandmother would say, there ain't 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.120 nothing new under the sun, nothing new under the sun. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:24.200 And what he is, what he is treading in is 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.680 a most base level of human condition. It's not smart, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.800 it's not sophisticated, it's not savvy. It is the most 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.560 base level. That's how he can be on the radio 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.520 or whatever. He's on internet for eight hours a day. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.920 That's how the president became the president. But I think 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.920 the question that we have is the question. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.000 Based, and we should understand that it's part of the 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.280 main strategy that maybe some of our strategies need to 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.240 get back to just being based. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.400 That's going to be my question, Like, okay, all right, cool, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.080 I agree with both you. But the question that people 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.680 have is where do we go from here? It's even 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.720 more so plistic base the base. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.400 What does that mean? I think describe it communication it is. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.120 There are a lot of reasons we can give for 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:19.000 why we should win elections, platforms, all these other vicissitudes. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:28.400 But people are really selfish, and base means not aspiring 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.560 people to our country's high as great as good as 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:38.600 a message. It isn't about democracy, you know. I care 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 about it as an individual amongst the lists and pantheonic 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.600 things that consume my attention at any point in the day. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:50.080 But there are things that are more base than that 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.360 that really decide how almost been the next couple of 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:57.640 moments of the next uh week ahead. And I think, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.760 I think the I think the opp position, and in 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.640 this case the opposition to Donald Trump, which is largely 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:10.559 symbolically represented in the Democratic Party, is attempting to catapult 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:20.360 over our base level concerns to get us aspirational about 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.400 a collective we that too many of us at the 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.680 base level have never far fell part of the collective we. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.040 They don't now, and they haven't because they don't see 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.920 that collective we putting their shoulder to the will to 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.120 get the things done that we need done at a 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:41.320 very base level. If I have to say base more, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.840 I would say what keeps you up at night? What 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.080 is the thing that you spend most time on during 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.800 the course of a day. What are the things that 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.600 are putting more demands on you that you have to meet, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.640 not would like to meet, but have to meet. And 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.040 then what are the set of solutions out there, the 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.320 things that are being done to help me on that path. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:03.040 You know. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.040 One thing that's come up recently, I think, given everything 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:11.960 that's going on right now, is how like entertainers are 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.720 responding to the moment. So there was a critique about 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:20.240 the met Gala that Taraji Henson Tji p Henson raised. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.680 She's asking what are we even doing? There are some 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:28.920 really large protests surrounding this year's met Gala. Jeff Bezos 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.239 was a primary funder of this met galan so Amazon 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:37.959 employees engaged in several activations, one where an elderly black 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.280 woman was put up on the wall a video played 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.319 right outside of the met Gala. And of course Chris 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.920 I can't think of Chris's last name, but Chris was 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.800 a protester that fought for Amazon. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.319 Amazon employees union unionizing. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.040 I'm gonna pull his name quickly, but he he was. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.160 Arrested outside of the met Gala. I think it's is 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:00.800 it Chris. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.040 Malls, you organizer in New York. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.160 Yeah, Chris Malls, yes, and so he was the president 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.800 of Amazon's labor union. So I think we were going 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.840 to play footage of some of the outfits at the 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.040 met Gala as well. But I think in these moments, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.120 what I think is required of us is like where 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.520 we draw the line in our own hypocrisies, Like, you know, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:26.960 how do we meet the moment? Do we meet the 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.440 moment by shedding hypocrisy or by acknowledging hypocrisy. Before we 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.839 started recording, I was asking the guys that said, okay, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.080 so would you have gone to the met gala? Andrew 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.600 objected to cost Bacari's response was, hell, yeah, And so 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.800 I wonder if you go to the met Gala, given 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.640 all that's going on, do you go and your outfit 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.960 is a protest? Do you not go because of the 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.240 price point because people can't afford gas or eggs or 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:49.400 what's what? 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.240 And how do you square that circle? 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.880 I mean, I don't. I just find there to be 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.000 I mean, Chris Mall's is his name, by the way, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:05.400 And oh you said that, Okay, I missed it. Yeah, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.280 you know, I just find there to be some damn headphones, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.880 so many different ways you know, I was gonna compliment 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.719 you today too, Angela, cause you look really good. I 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.559 don't know, you look well arrested, like your exercises, like 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.480 your your sauna in and everything. But I ain't gonna 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:28.800 say none of that shit allowed because hell so anyway, anyway, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.320 you know, I just think that the met Gala, and 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.000 you know what, I love taragips because she got me 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.760 rethinking it. Because you know, the original reason I said 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.560 I didn't go this year is because they only sent 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.640 me one ticket and I couldn't take Ellen. So I 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:43.520 didn't go this year. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.920 But I would have gone. But but but. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.560 Taragi actually makes you, makes you shake your consciousness and think. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.320 And so I wish that we had more individuals who 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.640 utilize their platform in this particular way. You juxtaposed that 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.559 against somebody like Stephen A. Smith this week, who was 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.040 going back down the path of non righteousness, and you 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.199 look at Taraji p Henson and I think there's a 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.240 role for all of us to play. And I say 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.800 all that to say that kind of the base level 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.240 that Andrew was talking about, no matter your field, right, 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.640 you can always be an agent of change. My dad 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.439 would always say that if you're a doctor. If you're 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.720 a lawyer, if it doesn't matter if you get the 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.880 if you're a sanitation worker, you can always be a 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.080 change agent. And we have to go back to that 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.960 mind frame that we're going to be change agents for 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.800 our community because the way that Taraji p Henson was 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.240 able to shake the consciousness just around the met galap 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.440 I did see one dress that I really really liked. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.840 It was a woman who had like all the sovil 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.720 rights heroes on her gown. I don't know her name. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.840 I don't know her name. I was just looking at 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.240 it on I was scrolling through reels. But and Beyonce 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:54.240 is was awful. But it was not blue kilt Beyonce. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:15:08.040 I think they both looked really nice. No, no, did 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.320 you see Rihanna was a oyster? 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.520 Did you see Rihanna get out stunned by her husband? 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.800 I will give you a samples fly with his pink Tridon. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.840 You know we're not playing that of these clips. I 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.800 thought we had. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.280 It feels a little. Yeah, we can't show the office 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.960 about amazing. In fact, you can plaster over my fids 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:27.200 just so so dressing. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.880 No, I just I just thought because we were drawing 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.280 that contra I agree. 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.080 I agree with your point, and I guess I'm struggling 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:38.400 with this. You know why Taraji p Henson is so 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.080 Almost every time, I really every time I hear her, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.720 I feel like on the mark is she is a 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.880 person who clearly has done the work and is doing 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.200 the work that no matter where she is, she seemingly 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.720 at home. And when you're at home, the things that 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.960 come out of your mouth are expressions of who you 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:04.760 are feel very much so sympotical with, like who am 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:10.080 I whose shoulders? And I mean, my goodness, the ancestors dreams, 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.720 you know, And so when you're really clear about that, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.400 it don't take nothing to call out the wealthiest people 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:22.640 in the world for the real trouble around why that 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.160 night is so troubling for her and for many of us. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.560 And I think I say this during the elections when 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.800 we were talking about fifty cent and like why would 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.920 he be for it? And I kept saying, this man 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.120 got so many more zeros than I can count in 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:42.200 his bank account, And we really, really really are reducing 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:47.000 the power of what money does. It puts you in 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.320 a different class, it puts you at a different viewpoint 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.160 in life. And by the way, it changes some allegiances. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.040 So maybe before the tax code didn't matter you a 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.640 whole bunch, and now the tax cold matters a whole 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.960 bunch to you. And I think the met Gala and 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.440 what we saw Monday was really that I saw Bezos 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.919 and his wife and all that she could anyway that 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:17.920 she possesses with their wealth, and him too, at an 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.000 event that used to require more than just your money 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:26.840 to get in. There had to be some demonstrated contribution 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.240 to humanity, largely in the space of arts and creatives, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:36.480 and they were reduced to their most base level, which 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:41.840 is wealthy. Filthy. Wealthy people socialized together and they have 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.640 a good time together. And while the rest of us 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:50.359 may view that congregation as being political or trying to 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:55.360 send a message or a point, they consider it very 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.439 differently than we do. Right Chris Jenner was at the 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:04.200 damn a dinner at his house the night before. Oprah 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.399 was at the wedding when they shut down Italy. You 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.959 know what I'm saying, It's like, I like these people 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.880 at this level, but I like them for reasons, and 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.960 they like each other for reasons, and it just happens 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.240 to be that they all share a lot of zeros, 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:23.159 and I just think common cause shifts based off of 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.919 where you stand in life. And I think that they 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.919 have some areas of common cause that unite them on 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.840 that night to look as filthy, wealthy and glamorous as 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.159 they do. And so I guess thank you Taraji for 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.480 maybe getting a lot of you know, some folks to 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.160 open their house and say, man, this is more than 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.879 just that. But it is the Gilded Age on steroids 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:44.880 right now. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.440 And I think Taragi was right. So I'm never going 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.400 by myself. The only way I go is if they 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.240 send me two tickets so I can take ellen. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.080 So I think that we've concluded that we are very 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:00.920 ready for the moment evidenced by all obviously for a moment. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.480 I think that we are. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.040 Close, but I think we have some You just talked 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.840 about healing work, Andrew like in what you've recognized in Taraji, 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.600 even from doing your own work. But I think so 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:19.320 much of this is about our willingness to lay aside ego. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:29.160 There's also an article with President Obama talking about he's 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:34.919 not like a commentator, and he talked about also Michelle 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.520 Obama taking issue with how much he's been called upon 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.960 to respond to the times and how a lot of 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.280 other presidents haven't been called upon in that way. Well, 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.920 this is a unique set of circumstances, and so we're 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.640 all being called to do things that we hadn't anticipated, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.720 you know. I believe Andrew you referenced twenty twenty four 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.880 being at Howard. I was looking forward to just you know, 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.080 being closer to home, supporting my parents, you know, working 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.560 doing well because we knew who was in the oval, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.800 you know, And that's not the story that we're here 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:07.200 to tell. 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.359 We are in the fight for our lives. I think, 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:10.399 I don't know. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.640 I dare say, this is the most difficult two years 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:20.000 that I have experienced in my life politically, you know, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:26.560 like from a sociological standpoint, historically, like emotionally, all the ways, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.560 on a micro level and a macro level. And so 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.600 then I just wonder, like, how do we show up 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:37.400 for ourselves, our families, our community, and the culture in 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.040 this hour? And I dare say, it is not the 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:41.280 way we're used. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.560 To doing it. It's just not. We have to show 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:44.120 up differently. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.520 We have to point out the gray areas, we have 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.040 to recognize our hypocrisies, we have to be able to 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.080 receive criticism hopefully that it's constructive. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.520 Stop with all the freaking canceling behavior too. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.720 You got eighty five reasons why you are going to 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.880 cancel this black person or that black person in Bakari. Honestly, 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.199 that was the beef I had with the conversation we 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.160 were having the other day. It's just pointless. People made 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.800 dumb decisions. People said dumb things in twenty sixteen about 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.919 who to vote for and who not to vote for. 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.119 I am not excusing that, but we are in twenty 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.600 twenty four in the fight for our lives, and I'm 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.719 not about to tell you six oh yeah, you're right 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.840 twenty twenty six. I'm trying to go back to twenty 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.040 twenty four. Maybe you can get a do over in 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.560 my defense twenty of y'all. Negro said twenty twenty two. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.040 In the last podcast, I was Ellie. But I don't 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:33.960 know what year it is. All I know is the 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.959 time is now for us to figure out a different 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:37.720 path forward. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:39.800 This is way too late. 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.600 We're talking about ten years since somebody made a major 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:48.880 mistake saying who not to vote for? Want I want 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:50.680 to sign them up to do the right thing right 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.080 now that's what type of time I'm on and I 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.560 would want if I made a grave mistake, I would 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.800 want somebody to offer me the grace to say, you 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.600 know what, you made a mistake. You can't do no 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.120 dumb stuff like that. But you are welcome in this 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.800 fight right now. We are all hands on deck. It's 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:07.960 not enough of us. I'm tired of saying that. 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.000 Okay, I just think we should be clear on what 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.080 we're enlisting people to do when the ask is made, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.560 because I don't. I ain't signing anybody up to be 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.399 leading me down. Nothing right, I think. 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.119 But we worry about leadership without knowing what our objectives are, 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:25.480 and the mission is no. 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.800 What I'm saying is I think we absolutely have to 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.920 lower the bar here. Yeah, when it's when it comes 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.560 to an election. This really sucks, because an election in 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.760 the most powerful nation in all the world should actually 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.920 be able to consider something more than who I want 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.040 to have a beer with choice when considering the leader 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.560 of the free world. It is it is not that 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:52.320 it ain't. We we have graduated past that level of baseness. 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.440 And I don't say this as a word to say, oh, 0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:00.600