WEBVTT - Recruiting Recap with Brandon Huffman 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.680 Navy Federal is proud to serve over eight million members 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.119 and is open to active duty military. The DoD veterans 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.520 and their family members receive a lifetime of membership benefits 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.840 like a credit card APR average that is four percent 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:20.599 lower than the industries, member only exclusive rates and more. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:25.160 Visit Navy Federal dot org for more information or call 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:29.240 one eight eight eight four to two six three two 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.479 eight or download the Navy Federal Credit Union app today. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.160 Message and data rates may apply. Visit Navy Federal dot 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.599 org for more information. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.240 Welcome to the solid verbal. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.919 I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm for I've 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.120 heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy, 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.480 you want to be happy for date A to state? 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:57.880 Is that whoo whoom and down and tie. Welcome back 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.680 to the solid verbal, Boys and girl. My name is 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.760 Ty Hildenbrandt. Joining me is always over there in beautiful 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.680 and snowy and wintry, Oh, New York City. My man, 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.280 the new Father, Dan Rubenstein, Sir, how are. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.960 You big Zillo Day for me? Billow, big redfin in 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.280 Zillow Day. I'm not moving, I have no plans to 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:17.839 mo who whoa. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.119 Whoa woa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:19.800 Hold on, hit me. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.160 Yeah, Redfinn was in the news this past week because 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.920 of a house in Pennsylvania. Is that the house you 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:26.720 were looking at. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:27.959 With the sex dungeon? 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:28.240 Yes? 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.280 Beautiful? Is it Maple Glen. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.560 Something like that. Yeah, fifty shades of Maple Glenn? 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.800 Right, Yeah, the house set up really nicely in the 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.759 first thirty pictures then picture thirty one, like, oh, chains great, awesome. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.120 I love that they're so confident that there is full 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.440 on s and m play. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.800 Just live in your best life, man. Put it out there, 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:46.959 see what happens. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.800 No, I made reference to it because it's just disgusting 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.000 out and I'm cooped up in an apartment because I 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.520 have a almost three week old and all of the sudden, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.840 as you can imagine living in a New York City 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.840 apartment with a three week old, like, oh, this is 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.160 not an acceptable way to gotten a lot smaller, right, 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.200 it has gotten much smaller. But the good news is 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.440 we finally get to go to our recruiting show, our 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.760 annual recruiting show with Brandon Huffman. Now that the season 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.440 has finally the cherry on top for me obviously was 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.760 a longtime Florida State commit decommitting, and I think going 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.640 to Maryland, if you saw that today, I think that's 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:27.760 like the last major tom that listen Willie Taggart and 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:32.040 having commitment issues. Who could have seen anything happening along 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:36.200 those issues and along those lines. But very excited to 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.440 have Brandon Huffman on from twenty four to seven Sports. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.320 He is their big dog that covers everything nationally based 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.280 on the West Coast. So obviously I enjoy a lot 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.680 of the insight that he has about the PAC twelve 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.000 and their schools, but we're going to go across the 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.880 entire country, a lot of interesting classes, movement up and 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.919 down and around new coaches and how they've affected things 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.280 on the recruiting trail. So this is legitimately one of 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:04.160 my very faceavorite shows because Brandon is built from head 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.359 to toe with recruiting information. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:06.960 He is. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.160 He is an encyclopedia. And I say this in earnest because. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.080 That in Brisket I should act and Brisket. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.519 There to be fair. I like to think that on 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.280 all of our off season interview shows, I learned something 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.239 new from our guests each time we talk to them. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.520 But it's especially true whenever we talk to Brandon about recruiting, 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.839 because I don't know. I mean, I guess we're doing 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.000 a college football podcast, and to some degree, sure I 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.080 pay more attention to recruiting than maybe the average college 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.040 football fan. Okay, but I still feel like I come 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.720 away so much more enriched with college football and recruiting knowledge. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.000 Every time we talk to him, I just can't follow it. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.760 Nobody can follow it as closely as he does. Nobody 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.440 has that level of detail that I expect that we're 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.600 going to hear momentarily from mister Hoffman again from twenty 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.680 four to seven Sports, So I'm excited to learn more 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.440 from Brandon. We would also encourage you don't just check 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.960 him out at twenty four to seven sports dot com. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.080 Also check out the fine work he's doing for the 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.720 Avery Huffman Defeat DIPG Foundation. We talked about his foundation 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.560 and his plight against the IPG a couple of years ago, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.800 but Brandon is doing God's work with his foundation. Check 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.520 it out at AVERYSTRONGDIPG dot org if you'd like more 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.159 information on the good work that they're doing. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.039 Yeah, the same awful the situation that took chadcar if 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.200 you remember Lloyd's Sir Franson a little while ago. So 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.080 they do fantastic. There's events on the West coast. So yeah, 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.279 it's AVERYSTRONGDPG dot org. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.880 That is correct, all right, So we are going to 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.000 get into it here with Brandon Huffman and talk all 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.599 things recruiting. As we said on last week's show, we 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.000 gave it some time to percolate to fessor, to really 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.320 set into the cast iron skillet, and now here we are. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.000 I don't know why I went cast iron with that. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.239 Maybe because I cooked on it earlier. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:57.840 You got your head, You got your head on cast iron. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:58.440 I like, that's right. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.440 We've seasoned the pan now with all things recruiting, and 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.279 it's time to evaluate with our good friend mister Brandon Hoffman. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:12.599 Have all listen, all right? Dan joining us yet again. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.680 Being so we just made it through a recruiting cycle. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.520 It is a long standing tradition unlike any other here 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.360 on the sOliver Bowl, we bring on our friend Brandon Hoffman, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:28.520 the national recruiting editor from twenty four seven Sports, to 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.120 talk through all things recruiting. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:31.200 Sir, how are you? 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.840 Dan Ty? I now feel like this recruiting cycle is 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.960 complete hearing your voices. Lets me know we're at the 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.279 end of a recruiting class and ready to start this 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:41.360 madness all over again. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.400 The last time we talked to you, Dan was childless, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.000 and now he Isn't we need some first month advice 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:48.400 for him? 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.960 Oh man? You know the whole thing about sleep being overrated, 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.040 it truly is. You're not going to sleep, but you're 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.160 not going to sleep at all anyway for the next so, 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.360 I don't know, eighteen twenty years, so yep, don't try 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.560 to sneak in. Then they're not going to make a difference. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.200 You're still going to get woken up in the middle 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.440 of the night without any kind of warning, and it's 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.360 going to ruin your whole day. But then you hold 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.599 that little guy or a little girl and you're just 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.960 super excited that the sleep can be meaningless and because 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:14.640 it usually is. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.920 And that's a good way to get into this because 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.120 I agree. I tried to take a nap today while 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.080 the little man was napping. Don't feel any better. I 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.800 just feel like my day continued. This is a good way, though, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.599 to continue on because you probably near the end of 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.960 the cycle pretty worn out. It's a tiring thing, although 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.760 it's split up a little which might make it a 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:40.520 little bit easier. So we'll start here. What are your 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.560 impressions of the way that things are split up now 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.280 with the early signing period, with the now more traditional 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.080 signing period still existing at the beginning of February. How 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.839 has it affected things after a couple of years. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.440 Well, I think it's starting to trend to more and 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.800 more guys the siding in December, and I think with 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.040 more kids getting offers earlier in their high school career, 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.080 they're done with the recruiting process, there's no need to 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.280 drag it out. So you're seeing a lot more early commitments. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.920 You're seeing far more early enrollments. Remember there was a 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.920 time when it was just quarterbacks that would try to 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.320 early enroll. Now it's everybody. You're seeing half a recruiting 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.560 class trying to enroll in time for January so they 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.600 can be a part of spring football. And I think 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.680 you're going to end up seeing it become a lot 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.600 like the NCAA basketball recruiting cycle, where you have the 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.840 November signing period and then there's a few guys that'll 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.280 sign in April after maybe coaches move around after guys 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.000 declared for the NBA. But with the way the recruiting 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.240 period now is in December and it's only a six 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.680 week gap, I think more guys are going to trend 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.520 towards signing in December. There'll still be guys that will 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.920 have to wait until February for a variety of reasons, 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.240 whether that's official visits or whatnot, or they just want 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.760 to see what potential coaching changes could happen, or if 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.800 guys are leading at a position where maybe they're being 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.280 recruited and they want to see what the depth start 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.080 looks like. But I think more often than not, December 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.960 is going to become kind of the key recruiting and 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.320 signing period more than February has. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.880 We've heard more about the transfer portal, the so called 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.440 transfer portal, over the last couple weeks and months than 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.040 I can ever remember in the previous ten years of 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.000 doing this show. What do you make of the prominence 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.480 now of the transfer portal? I guess the prominence the 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:26.320 growing number of transfers, high profile transfers that we see. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.120 How does that affect recruiting? 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.640 Well, I think it's going to a maybe bring up 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.400 questions when you have one school that has more guys 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.720 that they probably were expecting to be in the portal. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.079 I think Penn STALOROD had somewhere near double digit schools 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.600 and players in the portal. I think when you see 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.160 schools that had multiple guys the leader speak to two teams, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.160 they already have a lot of traffic. They're on the 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.720 depth chart, or why are guys looking to leave the program? 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.400 I also not there's anything to question with ten stating 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.840 obviously they've had a good run under Jans Frank and 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.000 just using that as an example, is that going to 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.040 be used as a negative recruiting tool. You're also going 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.120 to see, you know, why are increasing amounts of players 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.280 at a certain position leaving and consistently leaving? After this 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.160 first year, We'll start to see news cycles and maybe 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.120 one school keeps losing young quarterbacks or whatever it may 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.320 be that could hurt them recruiting that position down the line. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.720 And I think what it is it's going to, you know, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.439 leave a lot of questions to be asked of the coaches. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.640 Why are so many guys getting to your school and 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.440 after a year wanting to enter the transfer portal and 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.079 wanted to leave? What's going on? What are the promises 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.079 that are being made when they're being recruited that are 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.560 not being kept when they're freshman that is making them 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.520 want to leave. So I think that's going to be 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.480 something that coaches are going to have to take a 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.400 part of. And I also think it's going to have 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.280 to be one of those things that they now have 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.280 to start weighing in when it comes to recruiting the 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.600 players that they're trying to replace them with. These guys 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.240 are in the portal more often than not, they want 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.000 to leave, They want to get out here. So now 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.520 we've got to start recruiting maybe an extra player at 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.880 that position, and we only are going to bring in 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.080 two receivers maybe, but now we've got to receive it. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.360 It's leaving. Now we have to bring in three just 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.720 to help our numbers. So in the middle of the 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.360 cycle and especially later in the season when it seems 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.040 like guys are going to want to be entering the 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.560 plaros when they figure out during the season they're not playing, 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.000 it may cost some reshuffling on the deck a little 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.560 bit for positional groups and how you're recruiting that specific position. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.160 With the way the numbers are ironed out. 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.760 You mentioned quarterbacks and rolling early, and also with the 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.000 transfer portal, the dominoes of various positions, and obviously no 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.800 position more domino focus than quarterback because only one guy 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.360 can be on the field at the same time. And 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:36.040 so this year's quarterback class, even before JT. Daniels enrolled 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.840 early at USC, was not seen as particularly strong or deep. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.040 So at the top or even beyond the top, who 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.679 are some I guess upside guys, both based on their 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.559 own talents and the team situations in which they might 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:53.439 find themselves. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.480 Well, I think he can. You know, the first one 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.560 you would look at it would probably be Jaden Daniels 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.319 at Arizona State. You know, he was the number two 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.480 dual threat quarterback in the country in this class, and 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.240 Aerzo State kind of came out of nowhere to get him. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.920 He had been leaning towards playing in either cal Uciley 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.520 or Utah, and it really looked like at UCLA Utah 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.679 battle for him. But then he sees the season that 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.760 Manny Wilkins has. He obviously sees what Herr. Edwards is 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.240 able to do in year one, and the fact that 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.920 there really wasn't any kind of income in there at 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.280 the quarterback position. They had, you know, some younger quarterbacks 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.520 that had come in, but they already had two verbals 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.440 in the twenty nineteen class, and then Jaden Daniels made 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.439 it the third because he's the most similar to Nanny 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.520 Wilkins and what Asu has done offensively, I think, you know, 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.240 and obviously even with Joey Yellen, who was another four 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.840 star quarterback out of Mission, Yo, and then Easton Long, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.560 the three star quarterback out of Oregon, they clearly wanted 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.000 Jayden Daniels. So I think that that may gives him 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.200 the edge in terms of being the guy for Arizona 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.079 State down the line. He's already enrolled working in spring practice, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.120 and then he also, speaking of Arizona, Spencer Rattler out 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.439 of Arizona, I would have thought he'd had a chance 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.240 to come in this spring and maybe earn the starting 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.360 job or at least, you know, give himself a shot 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.680 at the starting job. Obviously he's a true freshman. There's 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.079 going to be other quarterbacks there, but with Jalen Hurts 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.199 grad transferring, maybe that's a nice way for Ratler to 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.880 kind of ease into the role without being thrown into 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.680 the fire right away. Obviously playing for the quarterback Whisper 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.920 and Lincoln Riley. You know, you expect Jalen Hurts to 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.520 have a big season and then Ratler can probably be 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.640 the guy that takes over for him or into the 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.640 quarterbacks that are there. Maybe they battle for it, but 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.640 I think, you know, Rattler will still have a chance 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.800 to compete for the starting role. I also think that 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.400 Jayden Daniels, I mean, those two guys are kind of intertwined, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.680 and that they were the top quarterback in Pro style 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.760 and duel threat out West and you know, Arizona State 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.080 because they couldn't keep this kid in Phoenix. They had 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.520 to go after Jaden and Daniels, and I think they 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:46.480 both factor in heavily. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.120 Let's stay out West, but also not really stay out West, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.200 since it's a national story. California got completely rated and 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.800 Jaden Daniels obviously goes to Arizona State, but you look 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.880 up and down the West coast, Oregon and Washington succeeded 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:05.400 in California, USC and UCLA with unexpectedly down recruiting classes, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.600 even with the lack of stability or new coaching staffs 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.720 at USC and UCLA. But even beyond that, whether it 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.719 was Texas coming in and getting a couple of big playmakers, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.960 even Clemson doing really well, Oklahoma, Michigan, a lot of 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.280 schools really came in to the Golden State and plucked 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:28.120 really high level talent. Why is that, you know. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.400 I think it's the culbination of a couple of things. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.439 Obviously USC's and it seems to be a lot of disarray, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.920 and then they lose clipp Kings very after the three 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.920 weeks or so he spent on campus. There was the 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.360 questions about Cleay Health's job. Then you have Chip Kelly, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.839 who kind of has an unorthodox and unconventional recruiting style 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.080 that didn't seem to really emphasize recruiting until it was 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.920 too late. So you take those two times, plus you 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.440 take just the general feeling for the last fifteen twenty 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.640 years as that West Coast kids applied the most open 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.720 to leading their region than in the country, So schools 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.040 know they can recruit and really try to focus on 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.920 a kid out West. He's easier to convince to leave 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.240 home than maybe kids in the Midwest or in the 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.200 Southeast are. So then you take the fact that you've 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.640 got Broo McCoy, who you knows from southern California, where 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.119 Tom Herman's from, one of three Texas commits or signings 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.320 that USC had targeted. They already had a commitment from 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.400 Gabriel Floyd before he ended up flipping too Texas Brew 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.040 was enrolled, and then he put the Texas and Chris 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.160 Ada Mora out of Mayfair High School they had offered 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.440 before his junior year he also went to Texas. So 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.760 Tom Herman is going to be a presence in southern California, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.640 which is his former home. Chris Steele, top tenth player 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.960 from southern California, going to Florida. Henry Toto the top 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.120 player in northern California, He goes to Tennessee. Zach Sharbon 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.400 at the top running back in California. He goes to 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.080 Michigan than Joe Nagata, who I think, you know, even 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.160 though he was the number nine player, I think he 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.720 more than anybody besides Broom McCoy. Kind of speaks to 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.160 the success of what you know Dabo's doing, but also 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.400 how hard it is to keep those is local. He 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.600 goes all the way across the country to Clemson. Dabbo 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.680 comes to California to get him here's a kid who 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.840 comes from a school that produced Washington's for your starting quarterback. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.280 Not only that, but his older brother, Ariel is a 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.320 linebacker at Washington, and Washington never really seemed to be 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.040 in the mix for him. So that's five of the 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:22.160 top nine players in California leaving the PAC twelve footprint. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.080 And that doesn't even get into the players in Arizona 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.240 or Colorado that also left the PAC twelve footprint to 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.520 go to other schools and to other conferences. And then 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.520 you have two players in southern California Mikaale Wright Cavon 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.280 Thibodeaux that Oregon comes in a pluck. So you're not 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.880 just dealing with national programs, but now you're dealing with 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.080 the PAC twelve schools coming into your backyard and taking 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:44.920 these guys. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.200 So since you mentioned Tom Herman, I have to ask 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.600 about this. Obviously, we're going to get to number one Alabama, 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.160 number two Georgia in the final twenty four to seven 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.200 composite rankings. But at three you've got the Texas Longhorns, 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.480 followed by Texas A and M, and the Aggies at 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.000 number four. This jumped off the page to me, if 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.520 only because I'm desperate to ask this question. Are we 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.920 now setting up a Biggie slash two Pac style rap 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.320 battle on the recruiting trail between Texas and Texas A 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:16.680 and M. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.280 I think so. And I don't think that, you know, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.160 Tom Herman will back down from trying to raise the 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.280 ire of Aggie fans in the state and to try 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.080 to you know, remedy having to fly and recruit against 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.840 Jimbo Fisher. So yeah, I absolutely think we're in that 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.400 because both are going to be entrench there for a while. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.760 This is different than you know, Kevin someone came into 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.040 A and M and that was the back end of 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.360 mac Brown's career, or it was him recruiting against Charlie Sean. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.400 I think we now have a front row seat to 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:49.080 what's going to be an absolutely fascinating recruiting battle between 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.800 those two. And with now social media, there's going to 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.680 be a lot of shade being thrown subtlely and pretty 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.520 obviously between those two and their coaching staffs and the 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.920 recruits and the players. So it's going to be very 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.720 popcornworthy to watch those two because they both can recruit, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.560 they both have shown that they can coach and develop, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.640 and now they're battling in the state. Jimbo just has 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.200 that little advantage where he's got the state of Florida 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.159 where he's got experience, whereas Tom Herman has California. So 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.760 now it becomes, you know, which state is more open 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.840 to leaving the Florida kids going to and en to 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.760 play for Herman. I'm sorry for Fisher or the California 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.960 kids feeling free to leave California and go and play 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.040 for Herman at Texas. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.760 Above them, though, of course, is Alabama one, Georgia at two. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.600 You look through the classes, the thing that jumps out 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.560 at me, at least on the Georgia side, is how 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.720 heavy they went on defense. Nolan Smith, of course, the 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:44.720 number one overall player, Nakobe, Dean, Tyreek, Stevenson, all these 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.359 guys are loaded for bear on the defensive side of 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.160 the ball. It is apparent to me that that had 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.280 to be a strategy by Kirby Smart. 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.080 There's no question. And then you throw away in guys 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.399 like Trevon Walker, who you know. We one of the 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.840 new features on twenty four to seven was our five Stars. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.600 We each named our top player. I thought Travon Walker 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.960 was the top player that Georgia signed in this class, 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.320 even though I do love Nolan Smith, I mean Travon 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.680 Walker six five, two eighty five. So he did it 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.679 at each level. It was on the defensive line. He 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.800 got good linebackers, he got good dvs. And I think 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.159 it's very clear that Kirby is offering justice, you know, 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.120 filthy of a defense in terms of the talent level 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.920 there that what Alabama has and you know, the ability 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.960 to not just go to Georgia and to play for him, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.560 but then turn around and get drafted highly. And I 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.320 think that's what you know, really makes what he's doing 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.399 there so quickly really help with getting this recruiting really rolling. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.320 Like it's been a last couple of classes. Is he's 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.879 now shown to those three or four years he's been 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.880 a Georgia the player development, the player, uh, the way 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.879 the players come in and where they came in at 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.160 Mark Rick. But then he got two or three years 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.800 befo them and they're turning into first round picks and guys 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.080 are there. They see that Kobe Dean was a guy 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.760 that Alabama coveted majorly. He decides to go to Georgia. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.720 You have Nolan Smith, who Alabama was trying to flip late. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.879 He'd been a long typ commitment, and I think that 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.720 it's a great blueprint to follow, you know. So now 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.600 it's a matter of keep going on, adding that kind 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.720 of on the offensive side of the ball, keep developing 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.600 that talent on the off side of the ball. And 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.600 they got that when they flip George Pickens, who be 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.200