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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 3: I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm for I've

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Speaker 3: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy,

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Speaker 1: Is that whoo whoom and down and tie. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the solid verbal, Boys and girl. My name is

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Speaker 1: Ty Hildenbrandt. Joining me is always over there in beautiful

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Speaker 1: the new Father, Dan Rubenstein, Sir, how are.

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Speaker 2: You big Zillo Day for me? Billow, big redfin in

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hit me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Redfinn was in the news this past week because

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Speaker 1: of a house in Pennsylvania. Is that the house you

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Speaker 1: were looking at.

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Speaker 2: With the sex dungeon?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Beautiful? Is it Maple Glen.

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Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, fifty shades of Maple Glenn?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the house set up really nicely in the

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Speaker 2: first thirty pictures then picture thirty one, like, oh, chains great, awesome.

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Speaker 2: I love that they're so confident that there is full

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Speaker 1: Just live in your best life, man. Put it out there,

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Speaker 1: see what happens.

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Speaker 2: No, I made reference to it because it's just disgusting

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Speaker 2: out and I'm cooped up in an apartment because I

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Speaker 2: as you can imagine living in a New York City

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Speaker 2: not an acceptable way to gotten a lot smaller, right,

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Speaker 2: it has gotten much smaller. But the good news is

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Speaker 2: we finally get to go to our recruiting show, our

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Speaker 2: annual recruiting show with Brandon Huffman. Now that the season

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Speaker 2: has finally the cherry on top for me obviously was

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Speaker 2: a longtime Florida State commit decommitting, and I think going

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Speaker 2: to Maryland, if you saw that today, I think that's

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Speaker 2: like the last major tom that listen Willie Taggart and

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Speaker 2: having commitment issues. Who could have seen anything happening along

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Speaker 2: those issues and along those lines. But very excited to

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Speaker 2: have Brandon Huffman on from twenty four to seven Sports.

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Speaker 2: He is their big dog that covers everything nationally based

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Speaker 2: on the West Coast. So obviously I enjoy a lot

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Speaker 2: of the insight that he has about the PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: and their schools, but we're going to go across the

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Speaker 2: entire country, a lot of interesting classes, movement up and

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Speaker 2: my very faceavorite shows because Brandon is built from head

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 1: He is an encyclopedia. And I say this in earnest because.

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Speaker 2: That in Brisket I should act and Brisket.

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Speaker 1: There to be fair. I like to think that on

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Speaker 1: all of our off season interview shows, I learned something

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Speaker 1: new from our guests each time we talk to them.

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Speaker 1: But it's especially true whenever we talk to Brandon about recruiting,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know. I mean, I guess we're doing

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Speaker 1: football fan. Okay, but I still feel like I come

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Speaker 1: away so much more enriched with college football and recruiting knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Every time we talk to him, I just can't follow it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can follow it as closely as he does. Nobody

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Speaker 1: has that level of detail that I expect that we're

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Speaker 1: going to hear momentarily from mister Hoffman again from twenty

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Speaker 1: Also check out the fine work he's doing for the

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Speaker 1: Avery Huffman Defeat DIPG Foundation. We talked about his foundation

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Speaker 1: it out at AVERYSTRONGDIPG dot org if you'd like more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the same awful the situation that took chadcar if

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Speaker 2: it's AVERYSTRONGDPG dot org.

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Speaker 1: That is correct, all right, So we are going to

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Speaker 1: get into it here with Brandon Huffman and talk all

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Speaker 1: set into the cast iron skillet, and now here we are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I went cast iron with that.

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Speaker 2: You got your head, You got your head on cast iron.

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Speaker 1: We've seasoned the pan now with all things recruiting, and

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Speaker 1: it's time to evaluate with our good friend mister Brandon Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: Have all listen, all right? Dan joining us yet again.

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Speaker 1: Being so we just made it through a recruiting cycle.

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Speaker 1: It is a long standing tradition unlike any other here

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Speaker 1: on the sOliver Bowl, we bring on our friend Brandon Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: the national recruiting editor from twenty four seven Sports, to

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Speaker 2: Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Dan Ty? I now feel like this recruiting cycle is

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Speaker 3: complete hearing your voices. Lets me know we're at the

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Speaker 3: end of a recruiting class and ready to start this

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Speaker 1: The last time we talked to you, Dan was childless,

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Speaker 1: and now he Isn't we need some first month advice

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Speaker 3: Oh man? You know the whole thing about sleep being overrated,

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Speaker 2: I agree. I tried to take a nap today while

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Speaker 2: with the early signing period, with the now more traditional

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's starting to trend to more and

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Speaker 3: You're seeing far more early enrollments. Remember there was a

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Speaker 3: early enroll. Now it's everybody. You're seeing half a recruiting

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Speaker 3: like the NCAA basketball recruiting cycle, where you have the

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Speaker 1: We've heard more about the transfer portal, the so called

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Speaker 1: doing this show. What do you make of the prominence

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Speaker 1: How does that affect recruiting?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's going to a maybe bring up

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Speaker 3: one school keeps losing young quarterbacks or whatever it may

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Speaker 3: And I think what it is it's going to, you know,

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Speaker 3: leave a lot of questions to be asked of the coaches.

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Speaker 3: Why are so many guys getting to your school and

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Speaker 3: It's leaving. Now we have to bring in three just

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Speaker 3: With the way the numbers are ironed out.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he can. You know, the first one

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Speaker 1: So since you mentioned Tom Herman, I have to ask

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Speaker 3: I think so. And I don't think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Above them, though, of course, is Alabama one, Georgia at two.

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Speaker 3: There's no question. And then you throw away in guys

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Speaker 3: That's how you quickly pass Alabama and they're not doing

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Speaker 1: When you look at Alabama, Brandon, do you look at

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Speaker 3: And they've just done such a good job of recruiting

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Speaker 3: and you know he was overshadowed at Tons by Noel Smith,

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Speaker 3: by Zach Harrison, by Keevon Thibodeau, by Trevon Walker, and

437
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 3: Alfana comes down to San Antonio and dominates all week

438
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Speaker 3: to move into the number one spot. And that's what

439
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 3: Alabama does. Even the guys that maybe are a little

440
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,719
Speaker 3: bit more off the grid, under the raider a little bit,

441
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: they go to a national event and absolutely dominate, and

442
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: then they get to Alabama they do the same thing there.

443
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: So it's just it's uncanny what Nick Saban has been

444
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: able to do and the fact that he's been able

445
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: to add so much talent on the offense side of

446
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: the ball these last four or five cycles for a

447
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: guy who's been known for all the great defensive players,

448
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 3: I think that's just becoming a problem that we still

449
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 3: haven't been able to see anybody completely figure out outside

450
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Speaker 3: of Clemson these last couple of years.

451
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that Nick Saban did, it

452
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 2: looks like three of the top six players from Florida

453
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 2: ended up going to Tuscaloosa. And it was certainly a

454
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: down year outside of the Gators for recruiting in state

455
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Speaker 2: among those powers in the Sunshine State. But Dan Mullen.

456
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Speaker 2: In his first full cycle as Florida's coach, he finishes

457
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Speaker 2: very well with his class, they get into the top ten.

458
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Speaker 2: How do you feel about I guess the Gator class overall,

459
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Speaker 2: and looking forward, do you imagine the state's powers will

460
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Speaker 2: do a better job of keeping the very top end

461
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: of the state's talent at home, especially now with Miami

462
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: looking a little bit more stable.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think with Miami, if they can recruit

464
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 3: the state like they've recruited a transfer wire this season,

465
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: they're going to be in good shape moving forward. I

466
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 3: think obviously, Manny Diaz is the guy that you know

467
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: is going to connect with a lot of these recruits,

468
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: and he's a reason that a lot of these recruits

469
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Speaker 3: are are feeling the keys, especially going into the twenty

470
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Speaker 3: twenty class. So that gives them stability with somebody who's

471
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: a little bit more And you know, obviously Mark Rick

472
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: was a stable coach at Georgie, was there a long time,

473
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Speaker 3: and you know he brought that maturity to Miami. But

474
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: you know, with many Diaz, you've got a guy who's

475
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Speaker 3: just gonna get after it. He's going to bring that

476
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Speaker 3: energy to match against the willy Tagger to match against

477
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 3: Davo to or at least going to try to do

478
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Speaker 3: what he can. But then you throw in what Mullin's done,

479
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Speaker 3: and I mean, I think he showed immediately what kind

480
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Speaker 3: of effect that he could have on recruits in this class,

481
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Speaker 3: not just from the state of Florida, but really in

482
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: the Southeast region. You know, will Willy Tagger get it

483
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 3: figured out? That's the good quest, that's the million dollar question.

484
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he's had about as bad a first year

485
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: as possible on the field and off the field. So

486
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: he you know, I think that's going to make that

487
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: seat that much warmer for him if he doesn't get

488
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: it figured out quick, because Miami is starting to take

489
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: a lot more of the headlines of the attention back

490
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: with the hiring and many Diaz with these chances they

491
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: have coming in. And then obviously Dan Mullen did a

492
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: fantastic job recruiting wise with this class and then showed

493
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: a lot of really good promise in the first year

494
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: of the head coach with the new year six Bowl wins.

495
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Speaker 2: We've talked about some of the top five top ten classes.

496
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Speaker 2: I'm curious in your mind, who put together a class,

497
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Speaker 2: maybe outside of the top fifteen twenty twenty five. That

498
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: just that made your antenna's buzz a little bit, maybe

499
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: in the way that like PJ. Fleck did a year

500
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: last year or the year before, where you know he

501
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: recruits Georgia well, the IMG Academy well, where he's put together,

502
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: like who is put together? I guess that top thirty

503
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: or forty ish class with a lot of those high

504
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 2: upside three star guys.

505
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you know made did Land some

506
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: a handful of four stars, But I think the class

507
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: that definitely is the one that makes you stick out

508
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: because you're not used to see him as Purdue and

509
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: finished at number twenty five in the country obviously, all

510
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: to talk about with Jeff brom Lee to go to

511
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: Louis Bowel and then him staying at Purdue, I think

512
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: that that showed that, you know, he's going to be

513
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: there for a little while longer. He was able to

514
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: spurn the alma mater to stay there, and I think

515
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: that that helps with recruiting, not just in this class,

516
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: but even moving forward, because now guys will see when

517
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: a coach says, I'm not looking to leave, I'm not

518
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: looking to go anywhere, and he turns down his alma

519
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 3: mater who's kind of at their breaking point and desperate.

520
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: He is willing to stay where and match what he said.

521
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: And so, you know, holding on to a guy like

522
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: George carlottis as a result of him, you know, staying

523
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: at Purdue. He was a top fifty, top under player nationally,

524
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: was heavily recruited by everybody, and decided to stay at home,

525
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: and he's going to Purdue. David Bella another big time

526
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: receiver prospect out of Indianapolis, A big physical kid. You know,

527
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: he had plenty of op is elsewhere. He's standing going

528
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: to Purdue. Milton Wright kid that I got to see

529
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: at the Polynesia Bowl and I absolutely love watching him play.

530
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 3: Another big physical kid, sixty three two hundred pounds. Interesting.

531
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: I mean that he was from Louisville. So when I

532
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: talked at the Polynesian Bowl, he said he was really

533
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: watching to see what Brom did because he wanted to

534
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: play for him. Maybe that would have been in his backyard.

535
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: But when Brom said that he was sticking with Purdue,

536
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: right stuck with Purdue. So you get a couple of

537
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: those guys that are the top end type players. Those

538
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: are obviously guys that you want to really build your

539
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: class around. But then you got guy like Kyle Billidu,

540
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: who played in both the All American Ball and the

541
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: Polynesian Bowl out of Virginia coming in. And you just

542
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: get guys like that that maybe you know they're coming

543
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: from different conferences, different conference footprints, going out into Tennessee,

544
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: going into Texas, going in to Virginia. I think that's

545
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: showing that, you know, brom is willing to try to

546
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: recruit against anybody, and this class was really evident of

547
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: the recruiting efforts that he put on both in state

548
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: and outside of the state.

549
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Speaker 2: Let's stay in the region. Michigan made a big leap,

550
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: arguably to an area of the rankings that they should

551
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: normally be. Is that strictly a numbers thing that they

552
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: could take more guys this year or did something I

553
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: guess change strategically with the top of their class coming

554
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: from very clearly a wide wide national net.

555
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that just kind of goes back

556
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: to what Harbad knows what he could do when he

557
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: was at Stanford. He recruited nationally. Stanford wasn't a school

558
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: that just because they were in California, We're going to

559
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: only recruit California. They were going to recruit nationally, and

560
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Harbaugh finally really had a lot

561
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: of success out west where he has some good ties,

562
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: but he really recruited coast to coast, and I think

563
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: part of it was he didn't necessarily get himself into

564
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: the spotlight as much this offseason and this recruiting cycle

565
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: like he did maybe previous years, where you know, two

566
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: years ago it was all about Najie Harrison trying to

567
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: be a part of the satellite camps. The year before

568
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: it was going into Alabama taking his shirt off. I

569
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: think he just kind of laid low and just really

570
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: recruited this year instead of making it about pr and

571
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: constant going viral, this year was just about getting out

572
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: there and doing it the old fashioned way and recruiting.

573
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: He went into Ohio, you know, he got Eric A,

574
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: He got Mazzie Smith to stay home in Michigan. He

575
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: went down to Georgia to get Jalen Perry as well

576
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: as Chris Hinton who was a you know, the son

577
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: of a former NFL star, but then went out west

578
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: to get his quarterback in Kaden Ncamary out in Nevada.

579
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: Jack Charbonay, who was a top five running back nationally,

580
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 3: went to Oaks Christian to get him, got Giles Jackson,

581
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: kind of an electric do everything guy out of the

582
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 3: Bay Area, went and got him. He went up into Connecticut,

583
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: went down and went down to Florida, went to Illinois,

584
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: and really kind of covered all four corners of the

585
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: country and then everything in between. But did it kind

586
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: of in a more subtle way this year, which I

587
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: think kind of maybe saved the negative recruiting from schools

588
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: that probably were doing a better job of doing that

589
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: the previous three years when he seemed to be in

590
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: the headlines all the time.

591
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: You mentioned the state of Ohio obviously some news with

592
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Day taking over for Urban Meyer, and if you

593
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: look at the recruiting rankings for what they're worth, Ohio

594
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: State all the way down at umber fourteen, which of

595
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: course is a spot that I'm sure a lot of

596
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: other teams around the country would love to have, but

597
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: for Ohio State it represents a bit of a drop off.

598
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: They're perennially in the top five, certainly in the top

599
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: ten in most seasons. Looking at their recruiting class, how

600
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: do you think this plays out now moving forward under

601
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Day.

602
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 3: Well, for one thing, I mean their class is small.

603
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's not from a lack of talent. They

604
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: just were the only class, even in the top twenty

605
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 3: five that didn't have more than twenty players side. They

606
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: only had seventeen. I think the next closest class was

607
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: a twenty one. So just from a pure number standpoint,

608
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: it may not add up to being a top ten class,

609
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: but you look at the talent that they pulled in.

610
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: They're bringing in three five star players. One of them

611
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 3: was a guy who'd spent time at number one in

612
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: the country. And Zach Harrison, who's kind of a physical freak,

613
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: more of a basketball player, six two and fifty three

614
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: pounder who's still trying to figure out the game of

615
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: football but has such great athleticism. And this is a

616
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: guy that many people were pegging to go to Michigan,

617
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: and House ultimately pulled him in after Ryan Day was hired.

618
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: Then you got Garrett Wilson, a five star receiver out

619
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: of Austin, Texas, who basically set the entire summer on

620
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: fire by committing to Texas. Sorry spurning Texas because he's

621
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: in Austin commit into Ohio State and set off World

622
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: War three the team Ohio State and Texas and the

623
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: Twitter war there, but then also going down to Georgia

624
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: getting Harry Miller Jamison Williams out out of Missouri. So

625
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: the players that they got are still tough in kids.

626
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: And then if you look at where they're sitting in

627
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, they've got a class that's already got seven

628
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: commitments and it's a top five class at this point.

629
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: And I think now with their going we go obviously

630
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: with the summer last year, with Irvan being suspended for

631
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 3: the first three games of the uncertainty is he going

632
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: to retire? Is he not going to retire? Now Ryan

633
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: Day and his staff head into a full recruiting cycle.

634
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: They'll head into the spring. They headed into January really

635
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: knowing that he's there for the long haul. So that

636
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: takes away a lot of the uncertainty. Now you're going

637
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: to see hoose sate. I think be back to that

638
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: top five class got from just a number standpoint, because

639
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: there's stability in place once and for all.

640
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, of course not the only new coach in

641
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: college football, and I know we ask you this question

642
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: every year. But among some of the other names Brandon

643
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: who impressed you with their ability to come on campus

644
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: and make an early impact on the recruiting trail.

645
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think it's going to be interesting

646
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: because you look at their class. It wasn't that highly ranked,

647
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: but I kind of like what melt Tucker did over

648
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: at Colorado, And part of that's because I think that,

649
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: you know, when you look at the success that he

650
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: had as an assistant coach at Georgia, it just kind

651
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: of he's been everywhere he's been in the NFL, he's

652
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: been in the collegiate ranks, but you know, he kind

653
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: of comes into a region that he's not as familiar with,

654
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: and that's always the one gamble you take when you

655
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: hire a guy who doesn't have a lot of ties

656
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: to a specific region, and where's his connection going to

657
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: come from? Can he convince the kids that come from

658
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: where his main main territory has been to go to

659
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: this new region. And I like what Colorado did in

660
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: this class. It was only ranked ninth, but considering that

661
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: there were a lot of players that DC commit when

662
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Mike McIntyre left, what he was able to bring in

663
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: he brought in Levonte Chandal, who's the younger brother Lavaska Chanal,

664
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: who obviously was a star for Colorado this last season.

665
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: They've got Joshua Allen to stay on board. He was

666
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: one of the top JUCO linebackers in the country. Originally

667
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: from Oregon, then played at Arizona Western. They were able

668
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: to keep Tarik Luckett, who actually didn't sign in December,

669
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: look like he may end up going elsewhere. Oregon and

670
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: USC were pushing for him, but he decided to stick

671
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: with Colorado. So I like not only who melt Tucker

672
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: really held on to in this class, but then also

673
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: being able to go in and get some key guys.

674
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: And I think that as he gets his feet under himself,

675
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: they've already gotten a commitment from from twenty twenty in Colorado.

676
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: The big key for melt Tucker is going to be

677
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: more than anything is when there's that elite talent, and

678
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: this is setting up to be the best high school

679
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: class in Colorado in a long time. If he can

680
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: really prioritize the state of Colorado like Kirbie Smart did

681
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: right when he got to Georgia, then I think that

682
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: if Tucker can do that, that's going to give him

683
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: an advance because then he can then use his guys

684
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: that have had California in there as their backyard, that

685
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: he can go back into the southeast and really get

686
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: Colorado back up to where I think people our age

687
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: are used to seeing them where they were when they

688
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: were in the Big Eight and the Big twelve.

689
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Really on, So let's follow this string. Who else is

690
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a new coach. It could

691
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: be a coach who has shifted things, but who's strategy

692
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: is noticeably different from what they've done or perhaps what

693
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: coaches before then have done. You talked about Michigan and

694
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaughs sort of, you know, being a little bit

695
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: more low key this year in terms of putting the

696
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: Michigan brand out there. Who else has said, Okay, we've

697
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: usually zigged, now we're going to zag. We've usually stayed local,

698
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: Now we're going national. We've usually gone national, now we're

699
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: going local. Who has shifted the way they've done things?

700
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: I would say UCLA, And it's not been in a

701
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: great way, but it's been very different. I mean, it

702
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: was one of those things that at one point where

703
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: you know, you can count how many players had an

704
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: offer that was committable UCLA. On one hand, there were

705
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: a lot of players that claimed offers from UCLA from

706
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: Jim Moore and his staff, and then Ship Kelly came

707
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: in and basically said, yes, your offer, still can't know

708
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: your offer doesn't count. And there just never seemed to

709
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: be an emphasis on recruiting during the spring and really

710
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: into the summer. And then when the season came around.

711
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: You couple that with a three and nine key and

712
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 3: now you have no momentum on the field. And so

713
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: we were used to seeing UCLA finish with top twenty classes.

714
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: You know, what do they finish like that on the field?

715
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: That was another story. But they were recruiting well, they

716
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: were recruiting aggressively, offering a lot of players, and then

717
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: they kind of go against that complete grain with Chip

718
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: Kelly and it ends up being a you know, by

719
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: what we've been used to seeing a pretty unimpressive class,

720
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: pretty mad class as far as UCLA is concerned. But

721
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: you know, we'll see if it works. They decided to

722
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: try this new strategy of offering guys for the eighth

723
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: day of the month. They offered twenty guys on Friday.

724
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: It seemed to be more players. They offered on Friday,

725
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 3: and they did in the entire twenty nineteen cycle. So

726
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: we'll see if the strategy he to maybe pick up

727
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: the pace a little bit more work from Chip Kelly.

728
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: But when you see how you say recruited under Jim Moura,

729
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: now see how it is been under Kelly. It definitely

730
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: was one of those moments where I think people in

731
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: the PAP twelve is going like, what in the heck

732
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: are they doing? What's going on there?

733
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: Is this a matter of Chip Kelly having the cachet

734
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: to say, these are the guys I want for my

735
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: program and I'm not changing how I do things.

736
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: One thousand percent. Yes, it's Chip Kelly is saying this

737
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: is how I'm gonna do it, and if you don't

738
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: like it, then look somewhere else. But you know, can

739
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: that strategy that maybe worked at Oregon in two thousand

740
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: and eight or two thousand and nine or twenty ten,

741
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: eleven and twelve work in twenty nineteen in the age

742
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: of recruiting with social media, the age of you know,

743
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: making yourself visible, making yourself have buzz. Look at the

744
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: other schools in the PAC twelve that when they go

745
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: on an unofficial visit or I'm sorry when the kid

746
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: comes in on an unofficial visit, or when the coaches

747
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: go out during the evaluation period. Everybody in the world

748
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: knows that either that kids on campus or those coaches

749
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: are on that kids campus. You clad everything so under

750
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: the radar, and it had to have been by design

751
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: and had to be the way Chip wanted to do it.

752
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: But can that work in twenty nineteen when so much

753
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: about recruiting is about visibility and the social media aspect

754
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: of it.

755
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,320
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Speaker 2: Who are the schools that how they did on this

799
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: in this year's cycle, in the twenty nineteen cycle stand

800
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: out to you as Okay, this is who they are

801
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: from now on, either in a really good or bad way,

802
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: I guess outside of UCLA. So who is that team

803
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: who really made the jump that you expect to stay

804
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: up pretty high and who is a team that has

805
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: fallen and you don't really see a way that they

806
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: can get back up.

807
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: I would say Organ. I mean, we know that Organ

808
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: has been able to recruit years when they brought in

809
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: elite players like the Anthony Thomas and Eric Arnstead and

810
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: consecutive years. But the thoroughness of which they recruited this year,

811
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: I mean that's attributed largely to the approach Mario Cristobal

812
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: took this year as the head coach, and I think

813
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: you look back to his time at Alabama, where he

814
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: was once the National recruiter of the Year, he was

815
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: an SEC recruitter of the Year. He understands the importance

816
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: of the head coach getting involved in recruiting, but he

817
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: also understands the importance of empowering and enabling his staff

818
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: to get out and be aggressive recruiters. And he would

819
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: talk to kids that would take their unofficial visits. They

820
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: would say, man, the second I got off the elevator,

821
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: there are thirty coaches and staffers cheering and yelling and

822
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: screaming for me when I got off, And that left

823
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: an impression on me. And so that comes down from

824
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: the top. And I think you're going to see Oregon

825
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: be a school. I mean, they're offering a lot of players.

826
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: They probably offer more players than any Pac twelve school does,

827
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: but they're also hitting on a large rate of the

828
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: guys that they really really want. There was a great

829
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: article in Sports Illustrated last week about the offers that

830
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: are committable and that are uncommittable. But I think, you know,

831
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: a lot of schools do those kind of offerings. But I

832
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: also think that when Oregon really kind of sets their

833
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: sights on a kid, especially in the twenty nineteen class,

834
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: they see the success of that with getting that kid's

835
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: commitment and ultimately him signing. So they ended up with

836
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: the top class in the PAC twelve. And I think,

837
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, Oregon has a brand. There's enough of these

838
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: kids that to them, twenty sixteen was an anomaly, that

839
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: was the exception to the rule. In their minds Oregon

840
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: has been the prime team in the West Coast and

841
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve for the last eight to ten years.

842
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: This is a team that a lot of these kids

843
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: grew up watching. So these Southern California kids weren't necessarily

844
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: dreaming a plan for sc like you would think or

845
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: for you feel like you think they were dreaming a

846
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: plan for Oregon, and you saw that in this class

847
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: with how they recruited Southern California. So I think that's

848
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: the school that absolutely is going to be a top ten,

849
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: top twelve type recruiting program over the next couple of years,

850
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: as long as Mario Christenbaul is there, because he's just

851
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: got a completely different approach than Chip Kelly and Mark

852
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: Helfrich did and that he wants to be visible. He

853
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: understands recruiting is the lifeblood of the program, so he's

854
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: going to continue to get out there. I would say

855
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: that they're probably that one that you kind of look

856
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: at and say, all right, they're going to be around.

857
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: They're going to be a factor. They're going to be

858
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: a problem for some schools to deal with, not just

859
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve but nationally. And then as far

860
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: as on the flip side, I mean, is Florida State

861
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: at eighteen? Is that going to be the norm? I mean,

862
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: can Willy Taggart get this thing figured out? We're not

863
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: used to seeing Florida State down that low. We're used

864
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 3: to seeing them being a top ten teen and usually

865
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: a top five team in recruiting, you know, but here

866
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: they are at eighteen. Is this going to speak? Is

867
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: this speaking to a larger issue? And if it is

868
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: a larger issue, how long does this issue go on?

869
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: Because all the buzz now in the state of Florida

870
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: is going to Many Diaz, it's going to Dan Mullen

871
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: and Florida State, which has always seemingly had the most

872
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: buzz of any school to certainly over the last decade.

873
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: Now they're they're running third. And then you still have

874
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: the you know, not that they're losing guys readily in

875
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: U see it, but even ucfs getting a lot more

876
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: buzz than them. So Willy Taggart's got to get that

877
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 3: fixed quick. Otherwise they may be a top fifteen to

878
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, which most schools to be happy about,

879
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: but not with Forlorida State. Not when you're still on

880
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: a gold mine of talent like they are.

881
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: Well, since you did Oregon, we got to do Notre Dame.

882
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: Riddle me this brandon about Notre Dame. Brian Kelly has

883
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: the Irish to a point where pretty consistently they're turning

884
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: in very strong recruiting classes. Recruiting is not so much

885
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: the issue at Notre Dame, but then came along that

886
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: playoff semi final matchup against Clemson. Now they ran into

887
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: a buzzsaw. Granted, but there are a lot of fans

888
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: out there asking They're looking at the recruiting class and

889
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: they're saying, what did Notre Dame do to make up

890
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: that talent gap? What did Notre Dame do to make

891
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: themselves better and more competitive against the top echelon of

892
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: college football? Is there a tell in this class how

893
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: they got better.

894
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they got better in the trenches. Now,

895
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: whether that's going to make a difference next year or

896
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty that quickly, probably not. I think they're

897
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: going to see their bigger recruiting bump going into the

898
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: twenty twenty class because a lot of these kids' minds

899
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: were already made up before Notre Dame even played in

900
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: the playoff game, before the season even started. So I

901
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: think they're really going to see whether they can close

902
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: that gap. Start to happen in the twenty twenty class

903
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: when those kids had a full year of recruiting, and

904
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: now when Notre Dame walks in in the spring during

905
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: the evaluation period, you know, kids, remember, Hey, they still

906
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: did go to a playoff game. It may have been

907
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: a blowout, but Alabama got blown out, and I get that.

908
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: There's one good thing that happened to Notre Dame. It's

909
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: that Damma got beat even worse in the National Championship Game.

910
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: So people are just going to look at dude. Crumson

911
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: was on a different level. What I think Notre Dame

912
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: did really well this year though, is they did a

913
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: great job on the offensive line and the defensive line,

914
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: really and just in the trenches. And that's where I

915
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: think a lot of schools have had the advantage on

916
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: Notre Dame in the year's passes that they've been able

917
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: to beat them up up front, and which is different

918
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: because we're used to seeing Notre Dame having good line.

919
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: But I think that you know, they've recruited even better

920
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: line and they still got some key players at the

921
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: skill positions coming in. But I really think moving forward

922
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, it's going to be the year where

923
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: that gap really starts to get closer. And I mean

924
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: there's some guys in this Notre Dame class that I

925
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: really am high on. I love the offensive line that

926
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: got ze Karel Quinn Carroll out of Minnesota, Ohio, Minnesota, respectively.

927
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: They got you know, a really good defensive lineman out

928
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: of Texas and Nanosafa Mensa. They went out west, got

929
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 3: a couple of really good players from northern California. Isaiah

930
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: rut Thefford, who was a cal Legacy's dad was a

931
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: former starting running back for Cal. He spurned a lot

932
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: of West Coast schools to go to Notre Dame. And

933
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: then Isaiah Foski, who was one of the top tight

934
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: end recruits out West, and then Notre Dame turned it

935
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: on and said, we think you're going to be an

936
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: elite defensive end, and he became open to the defensive

937
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: line idea, and the Irish got him to announce on

938
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: signing day. But then the best player in this class,

939
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: in my opinion, it is Kyle Hamilton. You know, he

940
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: was a guy that was under the radar. He goes

941
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: to the Opening Finals last summer and was fantastic, and

942
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: then goes to the All American Ball this year and

943
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: really just shined from beginning to end. And here's a

944
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: guy who wasn't even the top two four seven going

945
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: into his junior year. He finishes as the number one

946
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: safety in the country by twenty four seven Sports and

947
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: a top fifteen player nationally out of Atlanta, and a

948
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: guy that I think that's the kind of player you

949
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: need to sign a lot of to really be able

950
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: to compete with the clencident and the Alabama tack programs

951
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: year in and year out.

952
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: To be clear, Ty, he did mention Brandon mentioned Oregon

953
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: doing well and establishing itself as a potential regional and

954
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: national power with Mario Christobal, but did not go through

955
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: the class, right, So in terms of where Oregon's class

956
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: ended up as a top what six, seven eight class

957
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: in the country, and you know, I think they're somewhere

958
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: around ten eleven twelve in terms of talent level and

959
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: average grade for these players who are the names that

960
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: you believe to be not necessarily instant impact guys, but

961
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: you are confident will leave a mark in the PAC

962
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: twelve in the years to come.

963
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: Obviously, Kavon Pibodeau, he was the number two player in

964
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: the Composite ranking, the number one player of the state

965
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: of California, the highest rated player that I think Oregon

966
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: is has signed in the modern era. A defensive end

967
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: who's going to come in and play right away. He's

968
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: got that type of ability where he's not just going

969
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: to compete for playing time. It's going to be a

970
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: matter of how many snaps does he get. He's going

971
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: to be starting, you know, can he It's just a

972
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: matter that he put on the way this offseason because

973
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: he's got the speed, he's got the quickness, he's got

974
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: the athleticism to be an impact age. This need to

975
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: be a little bit of way to handle those offensive

976
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: linemen in college but he is obviously the crown jewel

977
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: this class. But then there's other guys like Mikaale Wright,

978
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: a elite corner, top fifty player nationally out of Southern California,

979
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: Joonata Newho out of Harbor City, and Narbonne High School,

980
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: which is another school that USC has recruited well out

981
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: of these last couple of years. Top ten offensive lineman nationally.

982
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: Michah Pittman is one of my favorite football players in

983
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: this class. A Calabasas coyote for you, Dan, so yeah,

984
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: I know you'll be rooting for him. The son of

985
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: former NFL running back Michael Pittman and the younger brother

986
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: of that team receiver Michael Pittman Junior. Micah, you know,

987
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: may not have the physical traits that some of the

988
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: other receivers have in this class, that are those six

989
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: two six three guys, but he's just lightening a ball

990
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: that he's such a physical just he just got a

991
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: lot of dog in him and he gets out and

992
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: he makes place happen. And he's another guy that I

993
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: really like in this class. And then Patrick Herbert, who's

994
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: the younger brother Justin Herbert. He was the number one

995
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: player in the state of Oregon really didn't see a

996
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: need to look anywhere else. He committed Oregon very early on.

997
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: He's a top ten tight end nationally. So you know,

998
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: they only signed one player from the state of Oregon,

999
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: but they made account. It was from Eugene and it

1000
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: was the brother of their quarterback. And was that enough

1001
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: to movie keep justin at school front of a year?

1002
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: Who knows. I know that was something that was talked

1003
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: about by both of them and something they would both

1004
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: like to pursue. If you're an Oregon fan, you'll just

1005
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: hang out him. The fact that maybe that was the

1006
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: ultimate tipping point for him to keep him there. So

1007
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: they did a really good job in California. They did

1008
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 3: a good job in Oregon, but then they did recruit nationally.

1009
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: Went down before they got a couple of kids. They

1010
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: got a top five JUCO player, a six seven, three

1011
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five pound lineman out of Texas from

1012
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 3: the JUCO ranks. So they did a really good job

1013
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: of recruiting the whole country, which is what they've been

1014
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: able to do these last couple of years, but really

1015
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: made California kind of be the home base this yeason.

1016
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: Two teams that really did a great job, and you

1017
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: mentioned this with Notre Dame and how they were absolutely

1018
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: a playoff team and have translated that this year moving

1019
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: forward into recruiting success. Two teams though, Oklahoma and Washington,

1020
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: have both steadily grown their recruiting footprint and the level

1021
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: of talent they're bringing in. I know watching it, did

1022
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: a very good job along the lines, and Oklahoma brought

1023
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: in what appears to be the best receiver class in

1024
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: the country. Do you feel like this level of talent

1025
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: for these schools and his depth of talent is the

1026
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: new normal for the Sooners and the Huskies.

1027
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: There's no question, And I think with obviously the hiring

1028
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 3: of Alex Grange, there's going to be a renewed effort

1029
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: to get big time defensive players for Oklahoma because Austen's

1030
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: hasn't been their problem. But if you're having a hard

1031
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: time tackling teams and you're having a hard time stopping teams,

1032
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: you'd better be able to score. So what do they do.

1033
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 3: They go get the two of the top three receivers

1034
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: in the country, including one of them being from Georgia

1035
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 3: in Jaya and Haeswid who was the number one receiver

1036
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: in the country. They keep Coe's in the mix, and

1037
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: then they go get the top quarterback in the country

1038
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: and Spencer Rattler. So they've added better talent to an

1039
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: already talented offensive depth chart. So that gives them continued

1040
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: weapons on their offensive arsenal. But defensively, that's where they

1041
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 3: really are going to probably see a focus over these

1042
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 3: next couple of classes. There's still some good players on

1043
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, don't get me wrong,

1044
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: but I think this class was really highlighted by their

1045
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: offensive talent, which makes sense because Lincoln Riley is an

1046
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: offensive group. But now I think with the with the

1047
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: presence of Alex Grange, there's going to be even more

1048
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: renewed effort to improve in the defense, and this class

1049
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: was a good start towards that. And as they continue

1050
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: to really bring in top end defensive talent to go

1051
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: with this just special elite of talent, Oklahoma's not going

1052
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: anywhere for a while. Washington, on the other hand, you know,

1053
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: you look at what's been the difference in some of

1054
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: the games that they've lost these last couple of years

1055
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: on the national scale, It's been usually upfront, it's been

1056
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: not just the skill positions. They've had the skill position,

1057
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: but it's been the offensive line, the defensive line, and

1058
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: they bring in arguably the best defensive line class the

1059
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: Pac ten has seen in the fact twelve a scene

1060
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: in probably a decade. They got four big time defensive tackles,

1061
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: they got two or three really good defensive ends, a

1062
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: great linebacking corps, a great defensive back corps. And then offensively,

1063
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: they were able to bring in five really talented offensive linemens,

1064
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: some that are already on campus and it will be

1065
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: a part of spring football. They've got a four star

1066
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: quarterback who was a four year starter down in Graham

1067
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 3: Washington and Dylan Morris, and then they signed in Probably

1068
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: the best addition to the class late was getting the

1069
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: decision from Puka Nakua, who was the Utah Player of

1070
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: the Year, the Polynesian Football Player of the Year, the

1071
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: All American Offensive Player of the Year over two thousand

1072
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: yards receive it. He had been a commit to USC

1073
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: but then when didn't sign in December, when Cliff kings

1074
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: Very left, it looked like he was going to be

1075
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: an Oregon Washington battle and he signed with Washington yesterday,

1076
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: announced to them on Sunday, ninth, So that just gave

1077
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: him another threat offensively where they did really well on

1078
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: the lines, they could have used one more pass catcher,

1079
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 3: and they got in one of the best in the West.

1080
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 3: And I think you're going to continue to see Chris

1081
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: Peterson and his staff recruit at a high level now

1082
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: that they've got just this plus thorugh of talent coming in,

1083
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 3: but then also going out and getting drafted high.

1084
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: Clemson's never in these conversations of teams that are finishing

1085
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: top two, top three, top four, but they're clearly one

1086
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: of the two teams that are in college football's top tier.

1087
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: Is are they just better at evaluating? Are they better

1088
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: at developing? Are they better at just keeping guys from transferring?

1089
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: What is it about Clemson and how they recruit that

1090
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: is uniquely successful.

1091
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're better at developing than probably just

1092
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: about anyone. I mean, you see some of these guys

1093
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: that come in that maybe aren't as highly touted, and

1094
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: then they leave and they set all kinds of records.

1095
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: They've been multi year starters, but they've gotten a lot

1096
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: of banks for their buck on the top rated guys

1097
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: they had brought in. Obviously, Mitch Hyatt a four year

1098
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: starter who was an outstanding recruit when he came out.

1099
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, you know, one of the best quarterbacks I

1100
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 3: think in the history of recruiting, comes in and wins

1101
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: the NATS Championship. So not only have they done a

1102
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: good job developing, but they've gotten that impact from those

1103
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: high level players in a sport where you see a

1104
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: higher bus ratio than maybe you do in college basketball

1105
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: from your highly rated players. They're getting everything that they

1106
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: expect out of those highly rated players. And when they

1107
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: lose a guy like a Hunter Johnson or Kelly Bryant,

1108
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: it's because you've got a generational talent at quarterback, like

1109
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: they did with Trevor Lawrence. So you look at this

1110
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: class and you really can't say there's a weakness anywhere.

1111
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: And you look at some of the guys they have

1112
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 3: in this class that maybe aren't as highly ranked as others,

1113
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: and because they do such a good job of development,

1114
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: because they have so much stability in that coaching staff,

1115
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: that allows those players to develop and be an impact

1116
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: player for clubs of whether it's earlier in their career,

1117
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: but like you said, they do they seem to do

1118
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: a better job with the exceptional quarterback of keeping those

1119
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: guys from leaving and just being an understanding understanding you

1120
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: gotta wit your turn. You're gonna get your shot, and

1121
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: when you get your shot, you're going to make the

1122
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: most of it.

1123
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: As we know, coaches that are coaching at G five schools,

1124
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 2: if they're successful, they become coaches coaching at Power five schools.

1125
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: So in the G five sphere, who put together a

1126
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 2: class and which coach stands out as that recruiter that

1127
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: I guess made your I've been using this phrase for

1128
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: whatever reason. Major Antenna's buzz.

1129
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: Maintez were buzzing but a lot because of what Brian

1130
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: Harson did at Boise State, and you know, they really

1131
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: have made themselves a presence as probably the best Group

1132
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: of five program over the last fifteen years on the

1133
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: field and recruiting. I think obviously ecf is is closing

1134
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: the gap. They've had a nice run in these last

1135
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: four or five years with two or with the BCS

1136
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: Bowl and then two year six Bowls. But obviously Josh Hipel,

1137
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: you know, is he going to be able to continue

1138
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: to maintain this program? It sure seems to do. They

1139
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: have a good recruiting class. They actually went back into

1140
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: flood into Hawaii to get their quarterback in Dyllan Gabriel,

1141
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: who comes from the same high school that McKenzie milton does.

1142
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: Gabriel had offers from Georgia and USC late and then

1143
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: decided to sign with UCF. So that's the kind of

1144
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: recruiting battles that you want to keep winning when you're

1145
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: a group of five coach that you can go up

1146
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: against the traditional power power five schools and beat them.

1147
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: But then you look at what Boise State did. I mean,

1148
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: they had three four stars just in the twenty four

1149
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: to seven the Sports Composite and six in the twenty

1150
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 3: four to seven rankings. When you look at their quarterback

1151
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: that they got, Hank Fockmeyer. He was a record sitting

1152
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: quarterback in California at through for over ten thousand yards.

1153
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: He had offers from numerous Power five schools, stuck with

1154
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: Boise State. When other schools would lose their quarterback, they

1155
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 3: would try to make a run in him, he stuck

1156
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: with Boise State. And I think that that shows you

1157
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: what this program is doing where they're not losing players

1158
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: that want those Power five offers like they did years

1159
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: ago when they were still kind of the BCS busters

1160
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: and BCS schools would come around and they could be

1161
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: the tenth best team in a BCS conference, but those

1162
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: kids wanted to play in a BCS conference. I think

1163
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: Chris Peterson and now Brian Hyson have done such a

1164
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: good job of developing players showing that they can shine

1165
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: at that level and be drafted at a high rate

1166
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: and a high level, that these kids are looking at

1167
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 3: Boise State as a destination program. So it's no surprise

1168
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: that probably the two most successful group of five schools

1169
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: over the last ten to fifteen years are the two

1170
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: schools that did the best job recruiting wise this year.

1171
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Hoffman from twenty four to seven sports

1172
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: are resident encyclopedia on all things recruiting. I've got two

1173
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: more for you, and then I promise we'll let you

1174
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: out of here. The first is, of course, we have

1175
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: to talk about Mac Brown and Less Miles coming back

1176
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: into the college football sphere after a long layover away

1177
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: from the game. How would you evaluate how both of

1178
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: those guys did now back on the recruiting trail trying

1179
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: to build up their respective programs.

1180
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: Well, I want to look at see what these safeties

1181
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: at North Carolina is bringing in because I want to

1182
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: see how good quarterbacks they'll be when they leave. But

1183
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: in the meantime, you know, but in the meantime, I

1184
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: think that both have classes that you know, considering the

1185
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: later start that they both got. You know, North Carolina

1186
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: finished in the top thirty five class. The year before,

1187
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: they were in the top twenty. But you know, considering

1188
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: how late in the game that they kind of had

1189
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: to get in with this class, they were able to

1190
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: flip Sam Howe, who had been a long time commit

1191
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: to Florida State. He was a quarterback, was committed. He

1192
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: had a really good week at the All American Ball

1193
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: and had a good showing in the game. He was

1194
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: a top three dual threat quarterback nationally. To flip him

1195
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: from Florida State to North Carolina obviously was big. You know,

1196
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: they were able to get some of these key guys

1197
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: like Eugena Sante, who really seemed to be kind of

1198
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: the one of the hot names during the January signing

1199
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: period because he didn't announce in December and decided to

1200
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: use Janius So he kind of was getting coached by everybody,

1201
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: and everybody was trying to get him, so for them

1202
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: to be able to sign him on signing day, I

1203
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: think that that just shows you, you know, what Mack

1204
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 3: Brown can do in a quick, little two to three

1205
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: month window. That's what he and his staff are going

1206
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: to be able to do over the course of the

1207
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 3: next year. And then with Kansas, I mean, obviously with

1208
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: Less models, there's not going to be short on a

1209
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: tension about the Kansas program. And I think it's differ

1210
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: than you know, maybe when Charlie Weiss was there, because

1211
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: Less is a guy the media loves and I think

1212
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 3: fans of college football just loves seeing what he's going

1213
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: to do next. And he really used that to his

1214
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: advantage and Kansas ended up being able to get a

1215
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: four star defensive lineman on signing day out of Texas,

1216
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: Stephen Parker, six and twenty pound founder who's a you know,

1217
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: fantastic pass rusher, And those are the kind of battles

1218
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: that I think Liz Miles is going to find himself

1219
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: getting involved in a little bit more. You know, they

1220
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 3: only got one four star in this class, but I

1221
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: think you're going to see them at two or three

1222
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: or four every year for these next couple of years

1223
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 3: because less most how to slay it in the living

1224
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: room with the families. He knows how to aggressively recruit,

1225
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: and he's still well thought of in a lot of

1226
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: major reasons in the country. So that's going to allow

1227
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: him to go into those schools. And even though he's

1228
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: a Kansas not ASU anymore. Because people genuinely love Les

1229
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 3: Miles and high school coaches love him, and a lot

1230
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: of coaches in certain parts of the country where he

1231
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: wants to recruit love him. That's going to open the

1232
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: door for him.

1233
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: Finally, and most important on this show, my favorite name

1234
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: of the twenty nineteen class. He's an offensive tackle. He

1235
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: goes by the name of Pierce Quick, and I love

1236
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: it because it's got a little John oxymoronic quality to it.

1237
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: I know you are someone with a keen interest in

1238
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: names such as these, Brandon. If not Pierce Quick, then

1239
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: who in this class was your favorite name?

1240
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean it's hard to top Pierce Quick.

1241
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: There was one Candian Organs class, and I'm gonna try,

1242
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 3: and I'm really usually good at Polynesian names, but this one,

1243
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: because of all the vowels in it, it still has

1244
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: scored me. And I just like stopped trying to name

1245
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: it. It's Mala Salila almuve la Lulu whoa, and it just

1246
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: because of all I mean, it's like a will of

1247
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: fortune gold mine with all the vowels in there. And

1248
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: then he's six seven, three hundred and forty five pounds

1249
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: on top of that. So it makes sense that one

1250
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: of the biggest players in this class has one of

1251
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: the biggest and longest names. But you know, we were

1252
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 3: kind of robbed of the Saint Browns family this year

1253
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: with them no longer having any other children, no more Equanimius,

1254
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: no more Osiris, no more almon Roz. So you know,

1255
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm having to go with the long, multi hyphenated names

1256
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: as the ones that really kind of wet the whistle.

1257
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: This year, we're working towards general Booty. In twenty twenty

1258
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: one in Texas, we're working towards general Booty, and I

1259
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: believe and maybe you can take a step at this

1260
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: for next year when we do our show. The number

1261
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: one quarterback in the twenty twenty class. His name is

1262
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: pronounced dj Wango La les huang Lele. Okay. That's okay,

1263
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: that's easier than I thought it was going to be.

1264
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: Ty you are going to struggle.

1265
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: God bless his parents for a name and him dj

1266
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: oh the best because he's becoming a two letter name.

1267
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: A You know, we just known him by his first name,

1268
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: and thank you mister missus Angilele for doing that. But

1269
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: I now figured out how to spell it without having

1270
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: to go back and copy and paste, and I can

1271
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: spell that thing masterfully. So good luck to Oregon or

1272
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 3: Clemson right now because of the two schools leading for him.

1273
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: Would luck to their PA announcers and their radio play

1274
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: by play gust for having the start. We might as

1275
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: well start practicing those names now.

1276
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: The dj U era, I think is what it's going

1277
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: to be.

1278
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: I like it again. Brandon Hoffman truly an encyclopedia for

1279
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: all things recruiting. Brandon can't thank you enough Man, Thanks

1280
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: for stopping by again.

1281
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: He's our kind of guy. Ty, he's an okage.

1282
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on guys. I always enjoy it.

1283
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: Alrighty, Dan, there you go.

1284
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: That is Brandon Hoffman, longtime friend of the podcast. I

1285
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: can't even count the number of times we've had him

1286
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: on the show over the last decade, but I've said

1287
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: it time and again and encyclopedia, a wealth of recruiting knowledge.

1288
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I always feel like I learned something I did in

1289
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: this case as well, and I'm guessing you did too.

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Speaker 2: I did. And you know, it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: where we could have easily done a three hour show.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure somebody's going to listen to this show

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00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: and say, you know, why don't we talk more about

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: the job you know, Jeremy preue it did at Tennessee

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00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: after disappointing season they bring in like twelve or thirteen

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Speaker 2: blue chip guys, Why don't we talk more about Auburn

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01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: or why don't we talk about Penn State? The job

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Speaker 2: they did? I think they finished second in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: The reason is there are so many teams. There are

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Speaker 2: so many teams to talk about, so we just want

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01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: to present him with a question. Where his mind goes

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01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: with the question is where it goes. But certainly, and

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01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: we mentioned this before after the early signing period, Nebraska

1304
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: did a good job after they finished the season in

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Speaker 2: an encouraging way. I think they finished with the top

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Speaker 2: twenty class. Stanford normally finishes a bit higher. They don't

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: take huge classes, obviously having academic restrictions, but they still

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: finish in the top twenty five. Ole miss after a

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01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: pretty terrible year. Matt Luke did a decent job on

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Speaker 2: the recruiting trail Arkansas. You know they will offer playing

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Speaker 2: time because after not winning a game in the SEC,

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Speaker 2: it's all the man's jobs to be won. Wisconsin actually

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: with a pretty decent class finishing in the top thirty.

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Speaker 2: Miami falls and it couldn't have helped that Mark Rick

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: left when he did, which I believe was after the

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Speaker 2: early signing period led That may point to how much

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01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: that staff was engaged with everything near the end when

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Speaker 2: things seem to fall apart for the Hurricanes. And you

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01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: asked a good question about Les Miles and Mac Brown

1320
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: North Carolina, especially with that quarterback poll that Brandon Huffman

1321
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: talked about. I think his name is Sam Howell from

1322
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: Florida State. They finish in an interesting way as they

1323
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: try to get out of the bottom of the ACC.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely a gulf, it seems between Texas, Oklahoma and

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Speaker 2: the rest of the Big twelve. The top of the

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Speaker 2: Big ten looks like it kind of should usc a

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Speaker 2: disappointment in the Pac twelve, but whenever things do eventually

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Speaker 2: and they will stabilize in LA. I expect USC to

1329
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: challenge for top five spots once again, but an interesting year. Nonetheless,

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01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail, LSU with a I will only

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01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: speak for myself. I was surprised that they were as

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Speaker 2: successful as they were with the schedule that they had

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Speaker 2: this past season, and for them to finish with a

1334
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: top five class and keep that momentum super impressive. And yeah,

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01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: interesting to see, especially Alabama just holding on to that

1336
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: top spot even with losing the coaches they did.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said to them, are they just shutting

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01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: off at this point? And I don't mean to be flipping,

1339
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't mean to dismiss another strong effort by Alabama.

1340
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: Clearly there is some strategy at play with the guys

1341
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: are going after. But at some point, and that point

1342
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 1: was long ago, the Alabama program hit critical mass under

1343
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: Nick Saban where it really legitimately started recruiting itself, and

1344
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: now it's an embarrassment of riches. Clemson's getting there, it

1345
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: looks like George's getting there as well, So we will

1346
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: certainly have to see how all of this plays out

1347
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: on the field. But again, recruiting is the lifeblood we

1348
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: did a great show on recruiting. I say great, I'm

1349
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: proud of the show we did a year ago. Go

1350
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: back and look at how recruiting works. Yeah, the show

1351
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: that we did, we reported out how the process goes

1352
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: down if you are a top level recruit, if you're

1353
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: a coach, if you're a media member. We can post

1354
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: a link to that show if you're interesting. Did in

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: the description of this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, Dan, Sure, we are going to continue

1358
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: with our conference autopsy rulings. We've done two of them

1359
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: thus far. We've got a bunch more that we've got

1360
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: in the works here, so stay tuned for that. We'll

1361
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: continue doing Q and A, and we've got a bunch

1362
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: of big stuff in the works over the next couple

1363
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Speaker 1: weeks and months. So I'm very excited about what twenty

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: nineteen has in store. As you know, if you've been

1365
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: listening for a while, or if you just found us

1366
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: out there on the interwebs, we're gonna be with you

1367
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: all off season. We're gonna be talking college football all

1368
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: off season. We'll do our best to make it as

1369
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: fun as possible and hold you over until the games

1370
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: actually start up. In the I guess August September time

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: frame later on this year, so we appreciate you standing

1372
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: by here. You can always post a review if you're

1373
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: going out to Apple, iTunes, dot com, slash solid Verbal,

1374
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 1: or really wherever you can find your podcasts. Any review

1375
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: is always very helpful. Check us out on Facebook, on Twitter,

1376
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and of course visit the reddit the subreddit

1377
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: at reddit dot com slash r slash solid verbal. Let's

1378
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: say sub started buiver ballers for overballers.

1379
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Speaker 2: Okay, my final out right here is you used an

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: analogy seasoning cast iron with something knowledge? Did you season

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Speaker 2: your cast iron pan?

1382
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 3: I did?

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01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. What did you use to season it?

1384
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: Lard shortening? Well, you can use a bunch of different stuff, right.

1385
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: I have been using mostly avocado oil. The trick I'm told,

1386
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: oh interesting, is to use an oil with a high

1387
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: smoke point, right, so you can heat it up and

1388
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: it won't smoke quite as easily. But I've kind of

1389
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: mixed in matchs. I've used a little bit of olive oil,

1390
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: which you're not supposed to, but you can. I've used

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01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: some coconut oil. Coconut oil seems to work, so you're

1392
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: not supposed to, but you care. I know, you can

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. It's a free country.

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, like, so when you originally got it there,

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01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: you're supposed to season it by you wipe it down

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01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: with something and then put it in the oven for

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01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: like an hour.

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: They claim. However, the instruction are there varying schools of thought.

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: I would love to have a sponsorship from Lodge cast

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: iron Pans, but we do not, so this is a

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01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: free plug. They send it with instructions that say, you

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: cook an egg on it when you get it, wash

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: it obviously, rinse it off, but cook an egg on

1404
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: it first and then start from that point. So that's

1405
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: what I did, cooked an egg on it. It's gotten

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01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: progressively less sticky, and I continue to season it every

1407
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: time I or after every time I use it. So today,

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: for example, cook my breakfast on it, which make it

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: just some eggs, you know, some scrambled eggs, some fried eggs.

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01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 3: And.

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: Put some avocado oil on it. Threw it in the

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: oven to set it in with that. And yeah, so

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 1: we're enjoying that cast iron lifetan.

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: Great to hear any questions for me, This is your chance.

1415
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: I promised that the show is going to get bad

1416
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: once we start talking about me having a newborn, and

1417
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: so I'm going to follow through.

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean I want to know all about

1419
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: the conception, but I don't know if we have time

1420
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: to do it.

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01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So first, a lot of stretching with bands. Okay,

1422
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: cannot stress that enough? Really get the blood flowing?

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this then, So, because we

1424
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: are running well on time here and it's stars the

1425
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: end I have built up. I'm not kidding you, and

1426
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: I won't show this to you a Google doc a

1427
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: Google People will have fatherhood questions.

1428
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: We have to have a pregnancy, childbirth, childcare with the

1429
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: stupidest man alive me episode at some point, a non

1430
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: uh a non college football episode related to We will

1431
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: do that. I guess maybe kids and college football. We

1432
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: will do that as how they watch and attend.

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Yes, you have been catching me off guard

1434
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: for the better part of the last decade. Yep, this

1435
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: is my one opportunity to strike on you. Okay, I

1436
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: am preparing for this accordingly. Okay, you know how I

1437
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: get when I prepare for something.

1438
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. You are thorough.

1439
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: Okay, we're working something out. I will keep this very

1440
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: easy though, because I'm sure there are folks out there

1441
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: who are nearing the end of their commute to work,

1442
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: or they're run on the treadmill, or I don't know

1443
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: where you are in the country, maybe even mowing the lawn.

1444
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: But this is this is hashtag relatable content.

1445
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I need He said he's almost three weeks

1446
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: almost three.

1447
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: Weeks, So we're posting this one on Wednesday. Yeah, he'll

1448
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: be three weeks tomorrow.

1449
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: What is your three week fatherhood advice for anyone out there?

1450
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: We actually got a question similar to this in the

1451
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: inboxslivt gmail dot com.

1452
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: That's right, So I would say, because you're going to

1453
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: be down on sleep, because your schedule is going to

1454
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: be different, because you're a new parent, you're not going

1455
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: to know what you're doing. I definitely don't know what

1456
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I would say something that has helped me

1457
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: immensely from a just a mindset point of view is

1458
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: they're crying because they're newborns, not crying because they hate you.

1459
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: They're not crying because they feel like they're dying or

1460
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: something like that. That's just what they do. So just

1461
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: like I speak sarcastically to my son. So like when

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm changing his diaper and he's wailing, like, okay, yeah,

1463
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: poor you, you're being weight. So I just I make

1464
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 2: it a conversation. I don't get I don't get upset,

1465
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: I don't get discouraged by wailing tears. It's just it's

1466
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: now a back and forth that we have what.

1467
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: Will be So yeah, go ahead ahead.

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01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: I would also recommend it's going to be a one

1469
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: way conversation, obviously, but if you're if you're feeding him

1470
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: or her with a bottle, or you're just trying to

1471
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: sue them to sleep, or you're changing diapers, you're just

1472
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: hanging out with them on a chair or a couch

1473
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: or something like that. I'm just trying to give my

1474
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: son information for life. So I've gone through where to

1475
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: eat in LA, I've gone through just a very stern

1476
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: talking to about respecting women. I've gone through tips for

1477
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: navigating the New York subway system. And it's just obviously

1478
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: he has no idea what I'm saying, but there is

1479
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 2: something soothing about talking to him in a non baby

1480
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: voice that I think is like, oh, this is this

1481
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: is the gentleman who's going to try to keep me

1482
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: alive cool. I get the cadence of his voice, and

1483
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: it's just it makes you feel like a human being.

1484
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: Will you done?

1485
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: Will you go the same route as our friend Stephen

1486
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: Godfree from podcasting played nobody and play our podcast in

1487
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: hopes that it puts your child to sleep because it work?

1488
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: Wonders for him?

1489
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 3: Is that what he told?

1490
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: Like, did we really help with his child?

1491
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: I think that was the only reason that he downloaded us.

1492
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: That's fine. Again, We've said this before. We're not picky.

1493
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: If you throw us a download, we're grateful do with it.

1494
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: Once it's yours, you can do whatever you want with it.

1495
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I haven't really played music or podcast for

1496
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: him yet as a way to get him to sleep,

1497
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: but I'm open to it.

1498
01:09:59,160 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: So far.

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01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: He's a good sla so far as long as he's

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: rocked and danced with. We listened to a lot of

1501
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: Chuck Berry today and danced around and that's seemed to help.

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Speaker 2: But I think the podcasting thing is going to be smart.

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Speaker 2: I use baseball podcasts to fall to sleep, so I

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Speaker 2: would be a hypocrite if I said that podcasts aren't

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Speaker 2: a great way to soothe yourself to sleep, so it'll

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Speaker 2: probably work for him as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we will check back in in a week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again to our friend Brandon Hoffman from ninety

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Speaker 1: four seven Sports. Again check out averystrongdipg dot org from

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Speaker 1: more info on his great foundation. Daniel, I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you in about seven days, Right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein for myself,

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Speaker 1: Tie Hildebrandt can't show on a week Enjoy your week,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend. Until next time, stay solid, hece