WEBVTT - Reclaiming Food w/ Justin Kamine of Do Good Foods 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.600 Citizen Chef is a production of I Heart Radio. My 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.200 wife likes to joke around that I have the soul 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.360 of a depression era housewife because I save everything and 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.720 work it into the following day's meal. So the other 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.760 night we made peas. Following day, what have all the 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.440 peas that are left over? They ended up in an 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.760 almward for breakfast the next day, I say it all, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:27.040 Are you kidding me? Repurposing is great. Hey, I'm Tom 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.920 Clichio and you're listening to Citizen Chef. So, starting about 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.600 six seven years ago, the term food waste was something 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.519 that a lot of Americans started focusing on. There are 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.440 a lot of organizations pointing out the amount of food 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.600 that was wasted throughout the entire production system, which was 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.920 about all of the food produced in America. And again 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.600 there's food wasted on the farms. Of food is left 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.400 in the fields. When food gets into the processing plant, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.480 if it's not the right size, if there's any blemishes 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.560 or bruises, it gets discarded and then wants it gets 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.280 into the supermarket. Plenty of food that is just not 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.479 perfect ends up getting thrown out as well. Anything past 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.959 their expiration day. Milt that it's perfectly fine, but it's 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.640 past the expiration day. But that's a whole other conversation 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.480 about how they actually come about and at home, a 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:20.120 consumer's waste between eight hundred dollars a year, which is 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:25.720 roughly of the annual food budget. So just picture walking 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.520 out of a grocery store with four bags and just 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.720 dropping one and continuing to walk. That's what we're doing. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.000 And so there's a couple of companies that are doing 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.480 something about it. There's a beer company that uses wasted 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.640 bread to make beer. There's in France they actually made 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.600 it illegal and throw out food. A lot of food 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.319 gets donated to food banks and food pantries. But this 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.640 really just scratches the surface. That was until I met 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.560 Justin Camine and his family business called Do Good Foods. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.320 They don't shy away from seeking big solutions to some 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.320 of Earth's largest problems, and Do Good Foods realize that 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.840 food is being on now and still has a tremendous 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.480 amount of nutrient value. So they've come up with a 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:09.120 way to take those nutrients uh and sustainably produce animal feed. Again, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.760 this is nothing new when you think about it. For centuries, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.800 farmers have been taking food that was left over and 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.760 been feeding it to their animals. In fact, I have 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.440 chickens at my house and I usually feed them scraps, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.840 especially produce. I stay away from meat and obviously chicken, 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.760 but I feed them lots of leftover produce and scraps. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.680 And they also spend a lot of time foraging for 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.960 insects and things like that. So if we could capture 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.040 those nutrients the very same day, are immediately after, and 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.840 turn it into a soil amendment or palletized animal feed 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.280 the very next day, we can create a healthier, more profitable, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.359 and sustainable solution for our supermarkets and farmers and consumers. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.760 I mean, also, we are reducing the amount of corn 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.919 and soy that we're feeding animals as well, and so 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.240 hopefully we can take some of that that farmland back 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.280 and turn it into farmland that produces food, not just 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.520 animal food. So this is the kind of problem solving 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.960 that gets me excited both as a chef and activist 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.400 and a consumer. So I'm excited to introduce to you 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.440 today Justin Kmine from Do Good Foods. Justin, welcome to 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.800 the Citizenship Podcast. So great, thank you for having me. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.920 Full disclosure I'm an advisor to the company. There are 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.760 estimates that between thirty to forty percent of all food 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.359 that is produced UM in the country and worldwide is wasted. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.000 And there is waste throughout the entire UH food production 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:37.080 system UH from the farmer straight through to the distributors 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.640 to supermarkets and of course the end user. Estimates are 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.760 between fifteen eighteen hundred dollars of food is thrown out 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:50.200 by the consumer every year. And I guess about seven 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.160 eight years ago, UM this started to become an issue 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.680 that you heard more and more about, and at first 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.840 it was quite shocking, and most people really didn't believe 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.720 the numbers and they thought it couldn't be true. In fact, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.840 I ever remember I was at a dinner party I 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.480 mentioned this and someone got angry at me and said, 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.840 it's impossible, it couldn't possibly be true, But we know 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.400 it is. And so there's a lot of people that 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.880 are trying to focus on this issue UH anything from 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.680 making beer from from UH you know, bread that's thrown out. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.760 Lots of organizations working on the issue, but I still 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:27.360 have not seen anyone that is actually tackling this issue 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.880 to the size and scale and scope that do good chicken. Yes. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.240 So food waste became a kind of a major, kind 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.080 of key emphasis for myself and the family about five 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.960 or six years ago. UM, I think we started to 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.840 see a lot of those same stats that you had 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.159 rattled off that of all the food that gets grown 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.919 gets thrown away, and if food waste was a country, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.000 would be the third largest greenhouse gas in matter. A 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.200 pretty crazy problem to really have, UM, and something that 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:59.080 I don't think that we fully understood and recognized, UM, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.240 but where we approached it to your point about the 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.479 size and the scale. So our background on our family 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.080 is that, UM, we've built large scale infrastructure now for 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.720 about thirty years, about four billion dollars UM and energy 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.279 and then telecom and having the largest probably health telecom company, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.840 and then my brother and I about ten twelve years 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.440 ago when we graduated college, we wanted to work with 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.839 our father and his team and use and focus that 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.440 infrastructure capabilities onto what we thought was some of the 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.240 world's biggest problems, recognizing that you can solve some of 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.320 these problems so long as you're doing so at a 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.960 size and the scale that can really move the needle 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.560 quickly and efficiently. UH. And so long as it's not 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.359 only economical but really with the environment in hand. Justin 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:48.440 what I want to hear, I want to get to 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.919 the back story. Um, why did you become aware of 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.280 the issue of food waste and when did you decide 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.839 to do something about it. Yeah, so, my brother and 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.240 I graduated college about ten or twelve years ago and 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.440 wanted to really fool just a family platform on the 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.600 sustainable solutions that could really transform the world and do 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.400 so at a at a size and the scale that 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.960 could really matter. Um. So that's when we first started 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.119 with solar, built about five hundred million dollars of solar 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:17.599 projects collectively together. And then about five years ago is 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.480 when we started to dedicate all of our time, energy, 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:26.160 and resources and our team of engineers and business development 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.200 onto how do we solve food waste and how do 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.520 we build an infrastructure platform that can actually scale nationwide 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.839 and really create the impact and the change that we 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.000 all know is necessary. What do you do with this? 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.159 So there's there's food waste. Are are food that is 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.520 going to be wasted? You actually get it before it's wasted, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.800 and so what do you actually do with it? So, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.520 so people have been feeding food to animals forever. Right 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.520 for century, we used to take our leftovers on our 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.719 farms and feed it to our chickens. Used do I 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.680 still do that? I have my chickens into that yard, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.080 and I take my compost what's going to go in 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.039 the compost, But now I feed it to my chickens 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.280 before it actually gets to the compost. So this is 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.800 still happening. Um. But but I'm not doing it at 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.640 the scale you're doing it. This is still happening, and 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.720 God bless those that are still doing it. Unfortunately, a 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.720 majority of the population in the US do not live 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.040 on farms. Um. So, Hey, I think food waste is 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.360 tangible to us all because we're all used to throwing 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.320 it away or trying to repurpose it in some other way. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.160 But where where we really centered on is exactly where 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.680 the FDA and the food hierarchy talks about where the 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.200 maximum usage food is be fed to humans. The next 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.680 masimi us to food is to be fed to animals. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.440 So what do we do we work with these supermarkets. Um, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.840 we actually provide them designated bins, one for the meat 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.480 and one for the produce. Um, and they called the aisles. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.760 So all of the food that's just reached it sell 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.640 by date UM or the apples or whatever it has 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.160 fallen on the ground or two browns for consumers, they 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.040 of course donate as much as they possibly can in 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.080 because that's the best usage of food. But then we 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.000 actually go and pick up that food that's kept in 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.480 the cold change so this food is still fresh, it's 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.960 still cold, um, and we're picking up about two hundred 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:17.400 tons every single day. We have a designate logistics provider 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.680 to do so UM that that equates to about on 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.960 average every two or three days, about four d and 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.640 fifties supermarkets that we're picking up that food. Of course, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.760 like I said, they we maximize human donations first and foremost, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.240 and the next best usage of that food is to 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.720 come to our production facility where we take that meat 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.800 and those fruits and vegetables. We put it through a 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.760 conveyor system to pull out any kind of foreign material. Thankfully, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.000 the supermarkets d package UM, so there's no plastics, there's 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.800 no nothing in that material already, but we pull out 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.200 whatever potentially had gotten put in there, and then we 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.920 do a very simple process um we grind up food. UM. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.839 We passed her rised it at about a hundred and 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.120 sixty degrees for thirty minutes, we blend it like a 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.520 wine for nutrient consistency, and then we're actually able to 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:15.040 dry that product that same day into a usable form 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.320 for our animals the very next day, into a dried 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.239 animal feed that can go right back into the existing 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:26.280 female infrastructure the very next day. So what we're doing, Tom, 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.640 is exactly what you did with your leftovers and fed 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.600 it to your chickens out back out cycling all this 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.880 food two hundred tons every single day and to a 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.040 dried animal feed the very next day. Do you have 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.040 any idea what the two hundred tons represent in terms 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.200 of water? What what did it take to produce? There 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.720 was two hundred tons of food? You know, So because 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.360 it's not you know, we'll talk about food waste and 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.839 and solving issued food waste. Yeah, part of it is um, 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.280 the actual food that is getting thrown out and not used, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.320 but there's also you know, water that goes into an 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:07.600 energy that goes into it um from literally the time 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.600 we pick up the food, saving that from typically going 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.920 to landfill, which a majority unfortunately of the food waste 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.800 that we have goes to, which of course is where 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.439 it creates methane gas, which is uh twenty plus times 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.520 more potent it than CEO two. But we have actually 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:28.359 tracked and quantified all of the carbon associated with the collection, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.360 the production process that we have converting the food into 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.960 a dried animal feed and back in into the animal's diet. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.360 And what's so exciting is that all of that, when 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.120 you look at the third party valve verification, actually creates 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:50.800 a carbon reduced chicken product. So you mentioned chicken. So 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:56.319 when when you first, um start looking at his technology, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.760 obviously you knew based on on your your family's history 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.240 that you could scale this. Uh, you know, how how 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.280 long did it take to actually start from from when 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.760 you create the technology to get to the process where 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.840 you can actually start number one, producing the feed and 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.880 start to grow the chickens, Because it was it was 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:17.240 a lengthy process working with various chicken growers UM to 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.199 come up with the exact formulas that you need to 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.280 actually feed the chickens. There was a question to whether 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:27.640 that would work, whether or not the chickens would grow. Yeah. Well, hey, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.560 it's taken us about five years and about twenty of 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.440 our own kind of capital to get to this position. Um, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.640 so there's a lot of trial and error. There's a 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.360 lot of understanding as to from the supply chain, right, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.600 how do you get a consistent large volume uh supply 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.920 Because to your point about feeding a chicken, the nutritionists 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.120 on the chicken growing side need to know that the 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.960 feed and greeting is coming to them every single day 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.120 with a guarantee nutrient analysis so that they can consistently 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.720 grow that that heard on a on a daily basis. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.600 So coordinating both of those two kind of variables into 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.840 a consistency has been part of this kind of magic 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.040 that we've created, which is largely predicated on size and 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:17.040 scale and logistics. Uh So, over those kind of past 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.160 five years, there's a lot of learnings as to how 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.520 much bat composition um of course is an amazing component 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.760 of energy for these animals um, and and what is 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.079 the right inclusion ratios from that perspective, And then it 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.240 got down into the usable forum, how do you how 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.600 do you take food waste which we actually cause food 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:42.760 leftovers two tons of meats, groups and vegetables every single day, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.320 and how do you get it to a dried form 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.280 that can go right back into the existing female infrastructure, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.480 Just like your standard corn and soyd so. The whole 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.480 drying capacity of that was a unique developed development that 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.080 took a couple of years to figure out, how do 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.800 you dry this to a consistent form that then can 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.280 be just put into a mill, and and and and 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.800 eventually a pellet. Really the exciting part, for the first 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.160 time ever enabling consumers to be a part of the 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.120 climate change in the food waste solution, going buy a 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.720 piece of chicken, you know that every one pounds of 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.600 chicken equates to one and a half pounds of greenhouse 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.240 gases being saved and one and a half pounds of 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.240 food waste being up cycled, all at a price point 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.240 well below organic. We have now made climate change tangible 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.160 to consumers. Continue your status quo, buy a piece of 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.680 chicken and know that you're actually doing good and having 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.680 a net positive on the world, not a net negative. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.960 And that's been the real unlock the logistics, the processing, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.199 and then that unlock of the brands owning that story 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:54.320 onto the retail shelf and forever changing the animal agricultural industry. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:14:01.440 That's been really the focus. We'll be back with more 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:13.280 Citizen Cheff. I'm Tom Clickio and you're listening to Citizen 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.080 Chef today, I'm talking to Justin k Mine of Do 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:21.760 Good Foods. His company is taking reclaim food and turning 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.560 it into nutrient dense animal feed. So right now there's 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.000 I called a plant and a half up and running 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.840 right now, Is that correct? Yep? One in North Dakota, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.800 one in Pennsylvania. Um, and then we're gonna be building 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.080 about six more of these over the next eighteen months. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.800 Right now. I I visited the plant in Pennsylvania, and 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.040 this is not what you'd expect. Um. You know, if 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.280 I were going into a plant that was processing food 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.600 and making it's kind of like a little brown sludge 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.360 and then against dried out, you'd expected to be you know, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.640 it's manufacturing, but you'd expect, you know, a lot of 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.520 garbage ways to be around flies and stuff. This is 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:05.400 absolutely spotless, um. And what's really amazing is the truck 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.040 comes in, it unloads the bin and it's never touched 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.800 by human hands. It actually gets out this conveyor belt. Um. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.080 It's like you built a better mousetrap. It's great. It 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.280 goes on this conveyor belt and um, it gets it 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.680 dumped on the conveyor belt. It goes into the order 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.360 and then the bin gets siloed off through uh what 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.800 called a bin wash. It's like a car wash, but 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.120 washes the bin, turns it upside down, and drives it 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:35.080 and sent it back out into into the world. Um. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.160 And then the process starts. So let's go through the process. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.400 What exactly happens when when the waste comes in that 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.280 goes on this conveyor belt. Yeah, so so absolutely so. Um. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.960 Every animal needs a different dietary component. So we are 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.120 able to, based upon the source separation um of our bins, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.320 one for the needs and one for the produce, we're 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:59.040 able to designate into our system the exact percentages that 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.640 are necessary. Um. So we'll take that blend um call 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.440 it typically about thirty five percent meats, sixty five percent 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.360 fruits and vegetables. That's what our standard kind of UH 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.560 diet is. We put it through a conveyor system where 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.000 metal detection happens. Um, and then we go through a 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.320 series of grinding steps. Obviously you're taking all this food 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.680 sally lastic material. You've got to really grind it down 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:29.360 to a a like you said, more of a sludge. Um. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.040 It's like the teeth exactly exactly just like what you 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.000 and I do. Right, We're grinding up a bunch of 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.640 food in our mouth, UM, and then it goes into 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.320 a series of tanks where we are heating it up UM, 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:45.000 destroying any potential pathogens that are there. UM milk is 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.560 heated up at about hundred and sixty five degrees for 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:52.880 about fifteen seconds. We do that for about thirty minutes UM. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.560 So of course, but we're already taking us D a 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.760 certified food fit for human consumption, so we already have 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:04.119 a very very clean supply chain. UM. That product is 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.080 then blended, like I said, like a wine. So we 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.480 multiple batches coming together where we blend it and then 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.560 we're able to screen out some of the fats um 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.639 to to help meet various dietary needs of various animals. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.960 And then those that product it simply goes onto a 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.160 large drawing system where we're able to dry it down 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:32.080 to a palleticizable form. So it's very simple. It's super complex. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.040 There's a lot of I P behind what we do 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.720 and how we do it, Like I said, five years 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.920 of development. Uh, but at the at the high level, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.880 it's a quite simple process that's actually been around for decades. Right, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.080 So of the for every plant, let's just say the 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.280 existing Pennsylvania plant, how many chickens over the course of 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.399 the year, can you actually raise and produce from the 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.359 single plant? Yeah, so there there's enough feed for about 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.440 twenty million chickens um. But it sounds like a big number, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.560 but it's not. That sounds like a lot. So here 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.840 I'll blow your mind and give you the big number. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.480 So in the US alone, we slaughtered about eight billion 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.640 to eight to nine billion chickens last year alone, and 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.680 that's growing at about six percent year of a year. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.720 So if you think about the solution that we have, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.240 we can go off and build thirty of these production 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:30.879 facilities and solve food waste nationwide. And we are only 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.160 a small, small, small fraction of the overall chicken market 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.560 let alone. To your point, when we start putting this 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.120 speed into other animals, we are a small component. Yet 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.720 we have the most sustainably grown animal at the at 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.080 the price point that's affordable and accessible to all. That's 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.840 why this is so exciting. By linking this to the brand, 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.960 we can act age with consumers to help us solve 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.640 food waste over the next five years, not the next 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.920 twenty years. So I think by five years you'll you'll 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.240 solve at the supermore could waste. That's the goal. That's 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.760 the goal. Uh yeah, do you think you're taking a 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.680 step further and get to the processing plants, because I mean, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.400 when when produce comes in from the field, Uh, if 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.440 it's you know, the tomatoes don't fit in a five 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.160 by six box or the zucchini are all perfectly straight 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.639 and six inches long, it gets thrown out there. Do 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.280 you see that we collected from the from the distributors 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.280 as well. Um, eventually those will be bolt on to 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.080 the platform. Um. We are after supermarkets first and foremost. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.640 It's high value and high volume UM. And it's more 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:36.000 consistent um. But yes, then processing facilities will absolutely open 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.119 up and we'll be a part of it. We and 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.680 and we're doing this that try to better the world 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.879 and all of us so as quickly as we can 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.520 all help solve food waste. UM, the world's in a 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.879 better position. And that's also how we actually we provide 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.560 a lot of data back to the supermarkets for them 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.679 to buy better and waste less. We're not trying to 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.119 do all this create a solution for a problem. That 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.600 doesn't necessarily always have to be there, right and while 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.280 you're also create a good solution for them because typically 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.919 they have to pay dumping fees. But that's so that's 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:08.280 going to go right to the bottom line of these 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.240 sup markets, which is is a fine bit of business 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.560 for them. Um. And then obviously, um, the streams that 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.919 you're getting from the supermarkets, UM, I would imagine uh 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.480 to do good chicken will be on those shelves. Absolutely. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.280 This is this is what's so exciting by this, which 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.159 is we're help We're helping the supermarket solve one of 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.840 their biggest pain points and one of their biggest complaints 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.439 by their customers of what are you doing with that food? 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.600 Of course, a tremendous amount of them have amazing giveback 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.440 programs to Feeding America, and we absolutely want to help 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.520 maximize that. That's the best usage. But then the next 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.920 best usage is not to go to landfill or composting 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:51.000 or anaerobic digestion. This food is still good and and 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:55.359 and and literally cold to human touch. We can cycle that. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.680 That's what we're doing. We're up cycling this food into 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:02.280 an animal feed and creating this amazingly unique carbon reduced 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.400 story in an animal protein space that has never before 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.160 seen that type of sustainability story. And that's why then 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.480 the supermarkets want to tell this closed loop story to 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.679 the consumers because as you look at all of these 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.800 um reports coming out from companies like Chipotle and Sweet 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:24.600 Green and everyone wanting to drive towards carbon reduction or 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.639 carbon neutrality, the biggest pain point right now from a 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.919 greenhouse gases is their meat consumption. And so if we 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.240 can actually create a system that is a carbon neutral, 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:41.200 carbon reduced animal production system, we've changed the game forever 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.159 and we can really create the next kind of ecosystem 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:49.480 for the agricultural industry that we maximize the usage of 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:54.400 our resources and we hopefully reduce the destruction of the environment. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.240 What have you received any pushback at offpenning industries? Um, 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.280 are the farmers are pro corn? So are they like 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.720 breathing down your neck saying like like you know you're 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.240 gonna you're gonna interrupt the amount of of CORTN and 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.160 soy that we could sell. I mean, when we build 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:13.560 thirty of these production facilities nationwide, we're only producing close 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.000 to a million tons of drive feed per year. The chicken, 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.600 the chicken industry alone consumes about forty five million tons 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.840 of drive feed per year. We're still a small, small, 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.400 small fraction in the all animal feed space, but yet 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.399 we have an amazingly unique sustainability stories. That is what 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.399 I think consumers are really gonna desire. We're actually nervous 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.159 that as we start to solve food waste so quickly, 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.160 the demand for our products are gonna be so high 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.760