1 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: The content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be suitable for 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast. 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I was going up the elevator 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: in one of Paul's guys, I won't mention his name. 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Worried about our left tackle, very concerned, very concerned. And 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: this is before practice. John Wrightson and Paul will love 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: this email. Are you guys only going to slam Drake 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: May for two hours? He's been excellent every other day? 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: Throw that out. Fred mentioned earlier the feathered throat of 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: Stefan Dicks, you know right over Craig Woodson. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: Kyle Williams, the favorite. 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: Did you see that one? 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: Ye? Kyler Williams finding touchdown when. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: They work in the in the in the red zone. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: It's not that hard, but it has. 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Tony told me I wear glasses to see distance. 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's I wear contact lenses so I 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: can see. Otherwise I would walk into that's a long 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 4: way away. 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: So why don't you use the binoculars. 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 5: I don't like binociars. I like to see everybody. I 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: don't want to just see the two guys that you 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: can see in the monoculars. 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: That's not how binoculars work. 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 6: This email though, he's right in so we would stop 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 6: talking about it, And now we're just gonna double down 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 6: on talking about Drake's day, just. 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: Like I don't. 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't really have time for children. 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Listen, size matters, okay, all right, well it does, and 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: not enough players talk about like, you know, all of 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, like I can't imagine going from college hockey 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: to pro hockey in the puck's. 35 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 6: A little bit longer now, I mean mentally, I guess 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 6: I'm saying more for the physical aspect of yes, are 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 6: you ready to go? 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 7: Choose? 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Like Miami can be taxing and Massachusetts tax Free Weekend 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: is coming up. 41 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: This is Patriots Unfiltered. 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Presented by Toyota's official website for deals, buy a Toyota 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: dot com. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Thursday here at Jillette Stadium and we're just off the 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: practice field where the Patriots had a walkthrough in tennis shoes. 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: So it was a light workout today. They're kind of, 47 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I think, treating today like a day before a game 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: because tomorrow they have an in stadium practice for season 49 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: ticket members in Foxborough, residents, other VIPs, and that'll be 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: sort of a mock game, you know. They'll treat that 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: like a game where they have the down a distance, 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: the crew, the chain gang referee. I assume. I think 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I had a referee tomorrow. I don't know about referees, 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: but I don't know a lot of that. Yeah, but 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: they'll try to simulate a game as much as possible. 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: You know, they'll have a a halftime, quotes, come back out, offense, 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: defense and all that. So just to get ready for 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: next week, because next week is the first preseason game. 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: Yes, like that joint practice is Wednesday. I well get 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 4: right after. 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 6: It feels like in some ways this is kind of 62 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 6: the end of training camp portion and we're going to 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 6: get into the preseason next week. 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a proper delineation. 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's Dus, it's Paul will be joined 66 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: by Evan shortly, we'll be joined by Alex as well 67 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: and a special guest in our second hour. 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: I hope they're wearing white, because we look like we 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: just came from a white party here with all the 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: three of us. Yeah, tight white. I don't have that 71 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: kind of money. 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: We just copped it in from the Hamptons. Yeah, all right, 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, today was just a walkthrough, 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: So not much to really talk about today other than 75 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: who was there, who wasn't there, But you know, good 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: time to kind of recap the week maybe and as 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: we head into this stadium practice tomorrow. 78 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's one headline is mccollins is back out, 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 6: So that's a good sign, and looked like he jumped 80 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 6: right in and it was active played for Josh McDaniels 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: and the Raiders. So we've all known that Josh has 82 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 6: a plan for how he wants to use mac collins, 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 6: and now we'll start to see how he fits into 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 6: this loaded wide receiver room yep, loaded loaded well with 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 6: people crowded, with people crowded as another team wide receiver room. 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the fact. And you know, Rabel had 87 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday he talked about Carlton Davis and 88 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: he said he's on a plan, you know, and he's 89 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: out there today running with you know, the first team 90 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: in the walkthrough. So that tells me that they wouldn't 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: do that if he wasn't in the cards for a while. 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: You know, so he'll be back soon, sooner than later, 93 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I think. So I like seeing him out there doing 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: the walkthrough with the other defensive players. 95 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, interesting week for him next week, just with the 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 6: Commander's coming and joined practices. Do they ramp up with 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 6: him and let him compete against those guys or is 98 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 6: that a let's protect him. I don't think he'll play 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 6: much in the preseason game, but we'll see. 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Because I don't even know why he's not practicing. I 101 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: don't know what his deal is now. 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: It's a little strange, A little strange. 103 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean these things are always you don't know 104 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 6: exactly what the plans are, what injur he might have had. 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: But we've talked a lot about his situation, starting off. 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: On an FI and then he's back and we've only 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 6: really seen him in walkthroughs now. 108 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: So I think it's. 109 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: Four or five of the last seven practices he hasn't 110 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 5: participated in. 111 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: In the two that he did, we're both walked through. 112 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: So whatever it is. 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 5: Is not overly serious to Fred's point, but they're to 114 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: me when you miss all of the practices, like right now, 115 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 5: they're not monitoring Christian Gonzales. We know he's dealing with 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 5: something with his leg right, So to me, it's not 117 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 5: just like Harold Landry is he's getting monitored. That's he 118 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: was given sort of like one of those veteran day 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 5: offs yesterday. So I think there's a little bit back 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: and forth. Do I think it's concerning, No, until I 121 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: find out otherwise, I'm not going to be concerned that 122 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 5: Carlton Davis isn't going to be physically ready for the 123 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: start of the season. 124 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: But I do think it's a little bit more than 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: just plan. 126 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, you know, I don't 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: think you missed that many practices is just part of 128 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 5: a plan. Like Morgan Moses is out there, he's in 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: and out of the team, that's a plan. 130 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well I don't you know, Davis is he's 131 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: got something going on, right, and he's on a plan 132 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: to come back based on what that is. But I 133 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: have no idea what that is. 134 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree. 135 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. So Garrett Bradberry, Uh. 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 6: We saw the same line today with Ben Brown at 137 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 6: center and Jared Wilson at left guard. Who's the you know, 138 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 6: the toast of the town for the moment, which is 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 6: which is great? 140 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: I mean It's a great sign. 141 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 6: Hopefully he is able to continue to improve and and 142 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 6: take advantage of all these reps he's getting, because right 143 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 6: now it seems like they're settling in on the five 144 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 6: that they that they like. I mean, we'll see how 145 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 6: it affected when Bradberry does get back, but that might 146 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: be the answer at left guard. That was one of 147 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: the biggest questions we had coming into the season, and 148 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 6: I didn't totally see Jared Wilson competing immediately for that spot. 149 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: I thought he was more of a center. 150 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: And maybe I thought he'd be just waiting in line 151 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: for center. But in fact, they like they no, they 152 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: they want to see him playing football on this team 153 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: sooner than like. 154 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, it's clear that they like him. And 155 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: you know, just even just. 156 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: Listening to Kayden Wallace talk about him yesterday, I think 157 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 5: that that he sort of made an impression. I have 158 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 5: a question, Mike. I don't know if you were the 159 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: one that that brought this up. I feel like someone 160 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: throw Cole Strange as sort of a surprise cut candidate 161 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: a long time ago. I now believe that Cole Strange 162 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: is a surprise Cup candidate. 163 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 164 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's a surprise. 165 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: I don't know how much of a surprise. I mean, 166 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. 167 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: You spend the whole first week and with the first 168 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: guard and then you're not on the team. 169 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: I think that would be a surprise. 170 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I think you could trade him for a second. 171 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: Maybe two. Yeah, it's I mean, it's disappointing. It might 172 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: be might be the end. 173 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 6: I mean he's snapping now with the injuries that they 174 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 6: had to Brad Burry, and he's on the second team, 175 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 6: So it's it's I mean, it's Brent Brown at the top, 176 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 6: who had been really kind of the third string for 177 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 6: a large portion of of early reps. And yeah, Cole 178 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 6: Strange probably just trying to find a way might take 179 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 6: an injury. Some looks like Kayden Wallace now is elevated 180 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 6: to that second left guard spot, So it seems very 181 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 6: possible at this point without injuries, and of course we 182 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 6: still have a ways to go that. 183 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: He could get And I'm not writing Cole Strange's roster 184 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: spot off yet because I think what they're doing right now, 185 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 5: like I think Cole Strange. 186 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: Is ahead of Caden Wallace at left guard. 187 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: I think what they're trying to find out is if 188 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: Cole Strange isn't starting at left guard, there's their value 189 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 5: for him being able to play. 190 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: All three spots the center. 191 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're trying to figure out if he can 192 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: play center, yeah, because I think that they were a 193 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 5: little concerned for some of the reasons that Evan Is 194 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: mentioned with Wilson at center, but not the least of 195 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 5: which is he's had some issues with the exchange. So 196 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 5: I think they're trying to figure out exactly what they 197 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: have behind brad Berry at center if need be, and 198 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: if Cole Strange can't play multiple spots, then I think 199 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: he has a chance to not be around. 200 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 8: Yeah. 201 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: I mean it's really hard to make the team as 202 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: a backup interior lineman without having position flex like if 203 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: you're locked in to one position on the interior line. 204 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: It had to be a situation like Jared Wilson's a 205 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: draft pick and is the top one hundred pick and 206 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: they're gonna keep him in the pipeline. But it's hard 207 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: to if you're you're three four five and you come 208 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: in and you really only can play left guard or 209 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: you can only play center. You know, you don't see 210 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: a lot of guys kept as like depth in that situation, 211 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: and with Jared Wilson that I've always I've thought that 212 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: gard would be the easiest path for him on the 213 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: field as a rookie. I think center is his best 214 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 3: long term position just in terms of the mechanics of 215 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: the line. 216 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: But why do you think that? 217 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: Because center is a lot like Mike linebacker or like 218 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: it sets the pace of the offensive line, so like 219 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: how much speed and range the line has a lot 220 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: of times can be dictated about like how athletic your 221 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: center is. So when you have like a really dynamic 222 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: athlete at center, it just allows you to do some 223 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: things in space and you know, outside zone screens like 224 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: things like that that can be really dynamic. Like obviously 225 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: the apex of it is Jason Kelcey, right, Like having 226 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: a center like that you can really run almost you know, 227 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: really helps you a lot. So having him at center 228 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: probably makes them a little bit more dynamic in terms 229 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 3: of that. But I left guard, all he's got to 230 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: do is block the guy in front of him, right, 231 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: he's not thinking about line calls, and he's not thinking 232 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: about snapping, and he's not thinking about, you know, are 233 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: we in the right protection or are we in the right. 234 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: Is mic points set correctly here? And is it three down? 235 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: Is it four down? 236 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: What are we calling this? 237 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 3: Instead you can just say, oh, we got I got 238 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: a guy lined up over me and I'm gonna block him. 239 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I heard. They certainly think that Wilson's 240 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: a smart player, like he's got a high football IQ. Yeah. 241 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: How often? 242 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 6: How common is that for players to maybe play one 243 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 6: position along the offensive line as a rookie and then 244 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 6: eventually end up with another spot. 245 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: Does that happen a lot? 246 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 6: I mean, because people are still talking about We'll Campbell 247 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 6: could eventually end up at guard, So is it Would 248 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 6: it be weird to say in two years from now 249 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 6: that Wilson's the center and Will Campbell's the guard, But 250 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: they played their first year or two. 251 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: As the left guard and the left tackle. Is that strange? 252 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: Does that happen? I think they have two on the 253 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: same offensive line. 254 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,479 Speaker 5: It's probably strange, but everyone would probably have more detailed 255 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 5: experience off the top of his head. But I feel 256 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: like there's a lot of guys that play different. You 257 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: know a lot of times it's one side or the other. Yeah, 258 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 5: you know, a lot of elite left tackles even the 259 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 5: elite ones played right tackle their. 260 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Rookie year and then they move over. 261 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: And there have been you know, like the Brandon Sheriffs 262 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: of the world I can never pronounce that name. Start 263 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: at tackle and they end up at guard. So I mean, yeah, 264 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: I think there's probably a fair amount. But to have 265 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 5: two guys on the same line both change is probably 266 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: a little bit different. 267 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 6: I know that it's common guys just can't quite hang it, 268 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 6: you know, hack it at tackle and they move inside. 269 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: I think that that's pretty common. But just generally play 270 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: a like left guard and then going to center. It's 271 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: this is interesting to me. It's interesting. 272 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: I agree, you know, but I think they're a little different. 273 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, but ultimately just want the best combination you know 274 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 6: that you can get. 275 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 4: So well, yeah, we'll see how it plays out this year. 276 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: Just how much of it is about one they just 277 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: want Wilson out there to get the experience of playing 278 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: and develop him. But also too, you know, how much 279 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: to what do they feel about col Strange right now 280 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: and where he's at. So, you know, if they feel 281 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: like Bradbury is their best center and they want to 282 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: get Jared Wilson on the field, there's really only one 283 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: way to do it, and it's to have him play 284 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: left guard. So it makes so much. 285 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: Sense the way you laid it out. 286 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 6: I mean, how perfect, Like you don't have to put 287 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 6: the mental load on him yet, but he's going to 288 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 6: get used to playing. It's it's generally you know, a 289 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 6: similar spot being inside. But yeah, interesting, I just I 290 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 6: don't recall that happening a lot, but it seems to 291 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 6: make a lot of sense that the team might want 292 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 6: to do. 293 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 5: And I know, like I think sometimes we make too 294 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: much of these kinds of things. I wouldn't completely rule 295 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: out the fact that, you know, this regime brought in 296 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: Garrett Bradberry is a free agent. This regime drafted Jared Wilson, 297 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 5: who they really like. The last regime brought in Cole Strange. 298 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: So if you have the dilemma that Evan just unfolded 299 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: for us, Okay, it's not the worst thing to go 300 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: with odd guys, right, And I think that does happen. 301 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: Should we make too much of it at times? 302 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: Yes, It's not like teams sit Tom Brady because he 303 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: was part of the previous regime to play Mac Jones 304 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 5: because he's our guy. 305 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: You know, that's not what we're talking about. 306 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: You know, we're talking about situations that you know, it's six' 307 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 5: one half dozen the Other i'm gonna go with our, 308 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 5: guy a. 309 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 6: Customer the scheme too, though you, know LIKE i know 310 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 6: exactly what you're, saying not just being the, guy but 311 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 6: it might. Be, look we brought this guy in because 312 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: he can do what we want him to, do and 313 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 6: these other guys aren't quite the fit schematically. Anybody you, 314 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: know it's not just a personal, thing it's it's really 315 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 6: based in how they. 316 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Play that's happening all over the offensive, line like What 317 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: paul is, saying Like Leaden robinson And city so just 318 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: not really in the mix at all with the top. 319 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: Group so those guys were drafted By bill and drafted last. 320 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: Year With Leyden robinson's, Case Cayden wallace is now at 321 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: guard to this coaching, staff when last year they had 322 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: even talks about him at left, tackle let alone you, 323 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: know playing inside at. Guard so just a lot of 324 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: these guys that are, holdovers recent draft, picks it seems 325 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: like they're kind of going with their, guys which is. Understandable, okay. 326 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: Good offensive line, Talk, Freddie. 327 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah Oh wide receivers from where you thought 328 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: the room was stacked going into. Camp has it changed 329 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: in your? 330 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: Mind, NO i think it's just been kind of solidified to, 331 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 6: me especially WITH. 332 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: Mtc hollins coming. 333 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 6: BACK i MEAN i look At Booty, Hollins, Williams, Diggs, 334 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 6: douglas that five and you Know, Born Jalen, Polk Jaymon 335 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 6: baker who's come on a little. BIT i think that 336 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 6: they're hanging on by their fingernails right. NOW i don't 337 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 6: think that they're off the, roster but those three guys 338 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 6: might ben maybe one spot for those three, guys but 339 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: the top FIVE i think are kind of cemented in my. 340 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Mind, YEAH i think right now is just a question 341 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: of you, know outside RECEIVER x, Receiver like how is 342 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: that depth chart gonna work itself? Out when you Have 343 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: Matt collins comes back today and he's right in, there 344 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: and Then Kayshawn boody's had a nice camp and he's, 345 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: involved And Javon baker's had a few flashes and like 346 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: those are that's sort of the. Three Maybe Kyle williams 347 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: is part of that as, Well so you, know how 348 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: exactly does that shake? Out AND i also can't help 349 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: but when every practice Noticed Kendrick bourne is just out 350 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: of place with the guys that he's playing. With and 351 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: what ends up happening With Kendrick, BOURNE i think is 352 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: an interesting topic because they might prioritize some of the 353 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: younger guys to develop those, players you, Know Kyle, Williams Javon, 354 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: Baker Jalen, Polk Efton. Chisholm you, know those guys might 355 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: be more if you're gonna keep him as like the sixth, 356 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: receiver you might want to keep a rookie that you're 357 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: developing instead of a guy Like Kendrick bourne who kind 358 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: of know who he. Is so can they Trade Kendrick? 359 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: Bourne is there something out there for? Him is it 360 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: Maybe patriots trade a player that they don't really have 361 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: a plan for for another team's player that they don't 362 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: really have a plan, for and that sort of. TRADE 363 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: i just every TIME i look, UP i feel Like 364 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: Kendrick bourne is playing with guys he doesn't belong. With 365 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: and it stands. 366 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: Out the way That mike's put, IT i would agree, 367 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: with you, Know and maybe the one, slight very small 368 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: as surprise would be That booty has seemed to be 369 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: so much ahead Of bourn not necessarily that the same, 370 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: spot Because booty's playing THE x And bourne has done 371 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: a little bit of. Everything but it certainly seems That 372 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 5: booty has established himself As i'm with these guys over, 373 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: here and As evan, Said bourn's with the secondary. 374 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: GUYS i wonder if maybe they. HAVE i don't know 375 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: how you guys. 376 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: Feel do you think there would be any chance that 377 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 5: you could get a guy Like bourn if you liked 378 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: him but wanted to keep younger guys to, develop and 379 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 5: maybe you wanted to Get born on the practice squad 380 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: as a veteran for, Insurance like right, now there's really 381 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: no need For, Born but If diggs gets banged, up 382 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: do you want to Put polk out there? Right Or 383 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: Kendrick bourne out there? Right you, know something like. 384 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: That it's a great, POINT i, think BECAUSE i look 385 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 6: At Kyle williams as the young kid that we're going 386 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 6: to have to get his feet wet a little. Bit 387 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 6: he's probably not going to be in every, game every, 388 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 6: down certainly. Not but how many of those young guys 389 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 6: that are unproven do you want to? Handle do you 390 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 6: want to Give Javon Baker polk like all those guys 391 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 6: are i'd see is in a similar. Bucket But, Born 392 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 6: you're totally, Right paul is not in that. Bucket he 393 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 6: is an established. Receiver if you had to throw him 394 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 6: in there in a, game he'd be ready to, Go 395 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 6: so that that might be an advantage for him that 396 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 6: they And. 397 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: Evans trade possibilities to me or they would ABSOLUTELY i 398 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: would rather trade him and get something for him than do, 399 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: that you, know just try to stash him on the 400 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: practice Squad i'm talking, about rather than just let him 401 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: go and lose him for. NOTHING i wonder if there's 402 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: any chance that you could get him on the practice. 403 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: Squad it's a tough blow, though to, him just to 404 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: consider putting a veteran, on you. 405 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 6: KNOW i, mean that's a that's a hard CONVERSATION i 406 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 6: would assume to, have you, know having put him. 407 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: Down but we've seen this with these new rules the 408 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: LAST i don't, know four or five years since since 409 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 5: the veterans have been eligible for the practice. 410 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: Guard maybe not even that. LONG i don't, know it. 411 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: Happens who was the guy that they did it to. 412 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: Last year they had a veteran receiver that they Put 413 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: they tried to the Returner Jalen rager and it didn't 414 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 5: work to your yea. TOO i think the point that 415 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: both of you guys are, MAKING i think that's what 416 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 5: their plan was was to try to do, that and 417 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 5: HE i think he bitched. 418 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: About it and they ended up letting him. 419 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: GO i, mean to be, fair Kenner bourne is a 420 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: better player Than jalen. 421 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 5: ABSOLUTELY i was just thinking in terms of a veteran 422 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 5: receiver who probably felt he was above. 423 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: THAT i just feel like it's, tough like he's he's 424 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: not subject to, waivers so like he's gonna be a 425 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: street free agent the second that they cut, him so 426 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: he can sign with any of the thirty one, teams 427 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: and like he's a SERVICEABLE nfl. RECEIVER i just can't 428 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: imagine that he would make it to a practice. SQUAD 429 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: i feel like he would be able to sign with 430 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: a team at some. Point your point about like having 431 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: him as depth is. GOOD i just do you want 432 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: to prioritize that Over LIKE i Know Afton chisholm is 433 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: is not your cup of, Tea, paul but like evidently 434 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: either if they really see something In Fton chishlm as 435 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: a slot receiver of the, future like kind of like 436 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: they saw With, edelman where like it might take a 437 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: couple of, years but eventually we are gonna feel like 438 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: this guy can can play for. Us you, know if 439 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: they really feel that way about ft And, chisholm is 440 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: it do you Cut Efton chisholm to keep a guy 441 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: Like Kendrick, bourne you, know who doesn't have long term 442 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: plans here right In New? England and that those are 443 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: the tough. Decisions like Obviously Afton chishm probably has a 444 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: better chance of being on the practice, SQUAD i would, 445 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: think unless he has a preseason and he goes crazy 446 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: in but that those are the CONVERSATIONS i feel like 447 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to. Have is, like you, know we 448 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 3: have upside With, baker we have potential upside With. Chisholm 449 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: we kind of know What bourn, is you, know do 450 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: we want to keep these guys instead of? 451 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 6: Him BUT i think Even polk And baker could be 452 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 6: practice squad guys. TOO i, mean all those GUYS i 453 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 6: think would make it. Through and it's just how like you, 454 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 6: said how do you stack it all? 455 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: Up what do you? Want? Insurance what? 456 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 6: Spots so, yeah it's it's but right now it seems 457 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 6: pretty clear to me that you're gonna. 458 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: ROLL i always find it fun to play those games 459 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 5: like there's no. Answer no one knows until it, happens 460 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 5: but we all say. 461 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: No no way he getting through. 462 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: It LIKE i would JUST i would probably say polk 463 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: is a second round. Pick someone might, say, no we 464 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 5: kind of liked. Him we thought there was something. There 465 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 5: he could use a change of. Scenery Whereas, BAKER i 466 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: think probably he was red flagged by a lot. 467 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: Of teams coming out of the draft that. 468 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 5: YEAR i think a lot of people probably weren't interested in, 469 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: them and if if he gets released right, away they're 470 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 5: probably gonna, say, well, see that's that's why we weren't 471 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: interested in him in the first. Place he flamed out. 472 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 6: Already that's what's, interesting, though is is you know YOU 473 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 6: i still feel Like Javon baker's got this ceiling out, there, 474 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: that's you, know mysterious ceiling because he's got athletic, talent and. 475 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: You guys are, right He's he's made a few plays. 476 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: The LAST i mean, honestly through the first few days 477 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: it felt, like oh, man HE i, mean even through 478 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 6: OTAs And mini, camp like he didn't seem like he 479 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 6: was getting out of that hole any and but credit to, 480 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 6: him he's made some plays and you, know hopefully he's 481 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 6: been performing behind the scenes as. Well but you, Know 482 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 6: polk's a second round. Pick stanaker's got a ceiling stacking. 483 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: Days they're out there every. Day, now, yeah that's good 484 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 6: for these these. Receivers they need to be out. 485 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 5: There, Obviously poke got a slow, start but you know 486 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 5: he's been in pads every, day and you know that's 487 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: the only way that these guys are going to cover. 488 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: Od role for. Themselves those are the guys in joint. 489 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 4: PRACTICE i feel like that we'll have real opportunity to 490 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: get a lot of. 491 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 6: REPS i don't think they're going to run digs out 492 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 6: there very much against these, guys certainly not in the. 493 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: Preseason so this will be the stuff to watch in the. 494 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 6: Preseason this is probably where these questions will be. 495 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: Answered but it's THE i think you're right to focus 496 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 5: on the joint practice because the preseason, game you, KNOW 497 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: i think we get lost in that because it's it's, 498 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 5: flashy and you, know it's it's my time to. 499 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: Shine i'm not just missing preseason. 500 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Games put some stuff on discount, furniture BUT. 501 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: I think it's much more important for those guys to 502 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: show and get opportunities in the joint, practice BECAUSE i 503 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 5: do think they'll run digs out there in the joint 504 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 5: practice with the first. GROUP i think those guys are 505 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 5: going to be out there like we see every day. 506 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 5: Now but did the other guys get a chance and 507 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 5: when they, do do they make them most of the. 508 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: Opportunities maybe it's just my my my draft take THAT 509 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: i won't let die With Javon. Baker LIKE i Like 510 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 3: Javon baker coming, out AND i was really excited when 511 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: they drafted, him but to do this his, pointed but like 512 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: he had he makes some plays where it's just like 513 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: specimen type, plays you, know like where he's just blowing 514 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: past the defense and catching that touchdown From Drake may 515 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: earlier in the, week or you, know he high pointed 516 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: one in the red zone where he went to level 517 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: ten and the corner only get to seven and he 518 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: was just, yeah exactly on his Head and that's exactly 519 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: what you see from. Him and it's just consistency and 520 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: like buy in and just being a pro and like 521 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: being able to do it every single day and like 522 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: if that can click for him he's got so much, 523 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: Talent like he has so much raw, talent and his 524 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: skill set is so different than some of the other 525 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: guys that they, Have like he's he's a much different 526 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: mover than Like Keaishan, Boodie like he's got those long 527 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: strides and he's got some deep speed and he's got 528 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: that yeah, right and you know Or Kyle williams who's 529 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: smaller and more. Slighter so if he can just like 530 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: tap into it and just harness it a little, BIT 531 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: i feel like he's got the potential to be AN 532 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: nfl player just to be in a. 533 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 5: Pro part That evan brings up is WHY i brought 534 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 5: up the consistency. Factor he's been out there every. Day 535 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 5: we haven't really heard from. HIM i think he's gotten 536 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 5: better as the camps have gone. 537 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: On is there haven't been these peaks and valleys that 538 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: we saw a little bit over last. YEAR i think 539 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: he's generally been on the. Rise now we'll see if 540 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: he can continue. 541 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 5: It you, know WE'VE i know that there's probably listeners 542 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 5: like here you, go they're talking about these wide receivers 543 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 5: again that we haven't really ever seen do anything in. 544 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: Games you're, right they have. To that's why we're. Here 545 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 4: they have to show. 546 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: You they have to show you that they can do 547 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 5: it every, day not just once in a. While BUT 548 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: i do think this first week of camp For Javon 549 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 5: baker has been better than last. 550 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 4: Year, yes in terms of his. Consistency, yeah his size 551 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: and speed is just. 552 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: Different like they don't have guy a guy that has 553 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: that exact combination of like six, one six two with 554 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: a four or. Five like that's not that's Not Keasehan, 555 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: boodie that's Not Kyle. WILLIAMS i, Mean Mac collins is 556 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: his own. Thing SO i JUST i won't give. 557 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: UP i won't Give we've mentioned that several times in this, 558 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: show the comments That Elliott wolf made after the end 559 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: of last, season where AND i he was obviously referring 560 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: to the wide receivers when he said, this we hope 561 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: that they would get more, support and they. Did and 562 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: he's referring to the. Coaching that's a significant thing for 563 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: A gm to. Say so you wonder how much influence 564 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: he has on the decision that's coming. Up you, Know, 565 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: no this Guy baker can be a player poke if 566 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: he gets he can be you, know like you wonder 567 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: because those were his. 568 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: Picks you, know this is kind of along those. LINES 569 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: i thought it was. 570 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 6: Interesting drake was ON Nfl network yesterday and he was 571 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: asked About Pop douglas and the first thing he said was, 572 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 6: like he's lining up in the right, spots and you, 573 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 6: know that to me just really stood out and it 574 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 6: was something that we were critical of me. Too AND 575 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 6: i like a That drake is kind of taking ownership 576 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 6: and leadership and calling guys out a little, bit but 577 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 6: also great great For pop that we knew that that 578 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 6: was something he was going to have to improve on 579 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 6: With josh McDaniels and his system and needing to be 580 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 6: a little bit more. Cerebral SO i think that was 581 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 6: just a cherry on top of a really solid start 582 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 6: for probably. 583 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: We always knew was a. Weapon now he can a super. 584 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: Weapon, yeah, Yeah, no the cerebral is a good word 585 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: For LIKE i remember last, Year drake had him on 586 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 3: like a slant and they just missed. It and if 587 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: he had caught it in, stride he was he was. 588 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: Gone and they after the, game everybody was Blaming drake 589 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: for missing the throw and you know, Whatever And Alex 590 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: Van pelt said at the time that Like pop ran 591 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: the route at five steps and it was supposed to 592 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 3: be at seven or like something like. That like it 593 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: was like a route. 594 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: Depth vaguely remember that. 595 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: Thing and it's like that's such a minutia. Thing and 596 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: at the end of the, day like it's a wide open, 597 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: receiver you probably should have put it on him, anyways 598 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: like it so everybody's kind of the blame, There but 599 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: like if that's the difference Between pop being just a 600 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: nice third receiver and then like in a thousand yard, 601 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: RECEIVER i don't, know but maybe it, Is like maybe 602 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: that is the next step for, him is having it 603 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: up here and being able to think the game as 604 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: well as the physical. 605 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: Attributes, yeah all, right eight Five pats five hundred is 606 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: the hotline pot cast At patriots dot. Com is the 607 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: way to email us. Again alex will be here. Soon 608 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: where she was out. 609 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: She was out. Front she she was like shooting a 610 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: thing With. Jack they were working on. Something SO i don't, 611 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 4: know maybe she got a little tight. 612 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: UP i, okay but she'll be here and then we'll have, 613 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: uh possibly a special guest in the second. Half, yeah. 614 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: Possible i'm getting a thumbs up from the From alex 615 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: in the, booth so very special, guests very very very. 616 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: Special who's going to be very excited to be? 617 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Here, yeah, uh the person will be very excited to be. 618 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 6: HERE i could throw another position. Group maybe we did 619 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 6: a solid twenty minutes to our. Receivers But evan AND 620 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 6: i are talking a little about the safety position where 621 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 6: it seems Like duggar And peppers certainly are right back 622 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 6: in the middle of, that but it still seems like 623 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: they're trying to figure out the rest of that rotation 624 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 6: and how it's going to go between you, Know Jalen 625 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 6: hawkins And Marcus, apps and you know even the Rookie Craig, 626 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 6: woodson who really haven't seen a lot of him with 627 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: the top. 628 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: Group but otherwise it. 629 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 6: Feels like that third safety spot and that role is really. 630 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 6: OPEN i Think jalen hawk might be in it right, 631 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 6: now but just a significant role that we've talked about. 632 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: A lot that still seems to be up in the. 633 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 6: Air WHEN i feel like after a week in a 634 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 6: day things will settled for me a lot across the. 635 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 6: Roster injuries have complicated the cornerback, position but it somewhat 636 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 6: the offensive line. Position but you, know, OVERALL i think 637 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 6: that's one of the few positions WHERE i still kind 638 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 6: of feel like there are some questions about how it's 639 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 6: all going to shake, out and an admittedly smaller. 640 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: Role it's, not you, know starter role. 641 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 3: Necessarily it's an important role, though because it puts everybody 642 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 3: in the right, Spots like if you have to Have 643 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: we've seen, it like if you Have duggart Or pepper's 644 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: playing twenty five yards off the, ball it's just not 645 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: where they're best, utilized playing in the deep part of the. 646 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 3: Field it just makes it a lot better if they 647 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: can have somebody Be we always like call Out Deron harmon, 648 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: right like just can you just Be Deron, harmon you, 649 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: know not asking you to be, like you, know a 650 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: ten time all, pro but like just play the role, 651 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: well be in the right. Places it's it's not you, know, 652 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: uh it's not a it's a small role in terms 653 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: of snaps, maybe BUT i think in terms of game, 654 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: leverage it's important because it's third, down it's fourth. Quarter 655 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: gotta have its. Situations it's, like you, know, okay we're 656 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: up three the two minute drills on the opponent has the, 657 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: ball they're driving down the, Field like how are we 658 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: going to close this? Game how are we going to 659 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: win this? Game and those moments are huge and like 660 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: how many times Did Ron harmon make a pick at 661 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: those exact moments throughout his career where the ball is 662 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: just kind of like kind of Depault and those are 663 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: those plays like that that helped That chung was in 664 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: the box and mccordy was playing robber And harmon was 665 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: over the top and they just, knew they knew where 666 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: everybody was and this scroup needs to find That they're 667 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: they're spinning the wheel a little bit. There they're trying 668 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: to find who it's going to be THEY i can 669 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: you can see it like every practice is somebody. 670 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: Different based on the, SPRING i Thought woodson was really 671 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 5: making a push AND i would agree THAT i have 672 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: it's seen the same kind of push since training camp has. 673 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 5: Started today when they went with, dime looks it Was 674 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: hawkins with with those, guys AND i do agree there's 675 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 5: a sneaky importance to it BECAUSE i think they had 676 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 5: in the dime it was three, corners three. 677 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: SAFETIES i don't think you you. 678 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: Know maybe you can make the argument that Of gonzalez is, 679 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 5: there that's you, know because he's not part of it, 680 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 5: Today so maybe you could go with an extra. Corner 681 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 5: but now you're, wondering, like Is Marcus jones can he 682 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: can he play back? 683 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: There is he big? 684 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: ENOUGH i know he's rangy, Enough he's got obviously the 685 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: athleticism to play back. There BUT i do, wonder you 686 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 5: know how they feel about. That marcus EPs has flashed 687 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: a little bit at. TIMES i think during CAMP i 688 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: think there are different, options but someone is going to 689 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: need to solidify that. 690 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: ROLE i do think it's sneaky. 691 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: Important and To evan's point about them spinning the dial 692 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 5: watching some of the position, Drills i've Seen Isaiah bolden 693 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 5: with the safeties almost as often As i've seen him with. 694 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: Corners SO i do wonder if they're looking that's another 695 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: guy with tremendous. Speed by the, WAY i wonder if 696 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 5: they're just continuing to look for. 697 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 6: Options, Yeah we're getting to the point now in practices 698 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 6: Where i'm starting to really kind of lock in on 699 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 6: the special teams periods just to see how they view 700 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 6: the depth chart for special. 701 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: Teams AND i didn't have to. WATCH i Knew mike 702 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: was going to have me on. 703 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: That you know who's going to be the nice way 704 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: to find like the fifty second and fifty third guy 705 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: that's going to make the team while he was the 706 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: guy that's on four different special teams. 707 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: Units who saw Del pettis last year. 708 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 5: Coming it was WHEN i told you guys this morning 709 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 5: About Jaheim bell and the OBSERVATION i made About, BELL 710 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: i figured for, sure. 711 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: You guys can be all over me for. 712 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: That yesterday they did they close practice we kick offs 713 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 5: yesterday and they did one and Then. 714 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: Chase on was one of the guys that was in. 715 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 5: There and the next rep they had the same, ten 716 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 5: Only Jehean bell Replaced Chase, on AND i was, like 717 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: maybe they have something in mind For. Bell let's get 718 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: to the phones and the. 719 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: Emails we'll start With emery In. Virginia what's, Up? 720 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 9: Emery good, afternoon. Gentlemen, hey, LISTEN i just wanted to 721 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 9: some comments in regards to the wide receiver. GROUP i 722 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 9: just think the fans needs to, relax you, know during 723 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 9: this Our Super bowl runs and, stuff we never really 724 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 9: had no what you call a super bona five number one, 725 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 9: receiver not Including Randy. Morris we didn't even win The 726 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 9: Super bowl With Randy. Morris we had guys Like Troy 727 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 9: brown giving the patent, Branch, Eldeman Amon, Doola Hogan, mitchell 728 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 9: And Brandon. Lafel NOW i Know. Elleman he turned out 729 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 9: to be a very very good and probably gonna be 730 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 9: in The hall Of fame one. Day but he developed 731 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 9: here and we had a great, quarterback we had very good, 732 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 9: coaching and we had competent guys that went out at 733 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 9: Won Super. Bowl SO i just think we just need 734 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 9: to chill with, this you, know like we got to 735 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 9: have a super dup number, one you, Know, no just 736 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 9: let's get some company guys out there who know how 737 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 9: to play. Football Let brave want his staff coach them, 738 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 9: up and let's go win Another Super. 739 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: Bowl, yeah, Okay Jake, SAMMERY i Mean emery Mentioned Tom. 740 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 4: BRADY i agree with all of. 741 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: That, yeah you, Know Tom, bradley we have. IT i 742 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: think you don't need a superstar With Tom, brady and he's. 743 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Right if you have a good quarterback and competent smart 744 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: receivers know the, role do it, well you, can you 745 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: can get, by but it helps to have that one 746 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: guy that opens it. 747 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: UP i just don't know if you can get, by 748 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: and we. 749 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: Saw what happened once they finally. 750 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 5: DID i would also say from seven to nineteen they 751 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 5: had A hall Of famer as this lead. 752 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 4: Receiver well, yeah, yeah SO i mean it's easy to 753 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: say he got by with, less, right he kind of really. 754 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 9: Didn't. 755 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, early As evan, said early in his, career when 756 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 5: you didn't really have to throw the ball to. Win, 757 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 5: Yeah Troy brown was the number one guy who probably 758 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 5: wasn't A hall Of fame caliber. 759 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: Receiver he was pretty, good but he was his. 760 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: Number one, guy And Corey dillon ran the ball for 761 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 5: eight thousand yards and that's how they, won and they 762 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: had great. 763 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 4: Defense you don't really win that way. 764 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: Anymore, YEAH i don't think you need Like Jamar chase level, 765 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: Receiver like it doesn't have to be the best receiver in. 766 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: Football BUT i JUST i, mean you always look at 767 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: last Year's Super bowl champ, like they have two receivers 768 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 3: that might be the best receiver here if they were 769 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: on The patriots. Roster SO i think it's it's a 770 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: different game than When brady first started. Out and then 771 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: you also the Then brady Became, brady and it's, like 772 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: well then you Have Tom, brady, right so, like, Yeah 773 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: Tom brady can Drive Kembro topkins And Austin colly And 774 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: Aaron dobson down the field to the game win a. 775 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: Touchdown BUT i would like to hope that we don't 776 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 3: Expect drake to do. That SO i just think it's 777 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: tough TO i HEAR i like him in the middle 778 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: of whatevery is, SAYING i agree with. THAT i don't 779 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: think you have superstar receivers. Everywhere, yeah BUT i agree 780 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: with good receiver to two. 781 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 6: Points first of, ALL i Mean Stefan diggs looks like 782 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 6: the best receiver that we've had in these parts since. 783 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 4: When like who is like Prime. 784 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 6: Edleman, yeah so you, KNOW i appreciate the call from, 785 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 6: memory but like you, know we're not quite in the 786 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 6: depths quite as we've been the last couple of. 787 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: Years but that's what he's. 788 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: Saying, WELL i, know. 789 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 6: And that's you, know but but you, know point, Out 790 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 6: digs looks, Good diggs looks ready to, go and my 791 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 6: success look. 792 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: Good my second point Is Drake may's look really. 793 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 6: Good and so If Drake may picks up this offense 794 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 6: and knows what he's, doing which he looks like he, 795 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: does and you, know looks like he is ready to 796 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 6: take a jump in his second. Season it matters a 797 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 6: whole lot. Less so you're you're fighting it a both. 798 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 6: Ends your quarterback is going to be better and you've 799 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 6: got a better. Receiver So i'm optimistic about this offense And, 800 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 6: drake Especially drake can take us if he if he 801 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 6: keeps playing like he's been, playing he's GONNA. 802 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 5: I agree with everything and what he, said and he's, 803 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 5: like they don't need, this they don't need, that they 804 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 5: just need a bunch of. COMPETENCE i would agree with. 805 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 5: EVERYTHING i just don't know if they have. That i'm 806 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 5: waiting to see if they have. THAT i Think diggs is. 807 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 5: That i'm waiting to see about all the all the 808 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 5: rest of the. GUYS i don't even know who they're 809 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 5: all going to. Be but, yes you can Get But 810 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 5: Brandon lafel was a very valuable player for. THEM i 811 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: don't know if they have A Brandon lafel, right But. 812 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: Brandon lafel is he was playing Off, Kronk he's playing Off. 813 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 3: Edelman was the third or fourth thing. 814 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: My point being, is you, KNOW i like What Kayshan 815 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 5: bouti has done in a week of. 816 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 4: Camp can he Be Brandon? Lafel? MAYBE i don't know 817 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 4: the other. 818 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 5: Party AND i know What evan's, saying like it was 819 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 5: easier For LaFell because he had so much other stuff around. 820 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 4: Him BUT i don't know. What these these guys are, unproven. 821 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 6: Right and they can never forget that it's not always 822 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 6: just a wide. Receiver so you number one tight, end 823 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 6: that's What gronk. Was he was a number one, Too 824 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 6: so maybe that's something that you know develops a Long. 825 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: When you're talking offense and you're talking the, dynasty it's 826 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: hard to make comparisons Because Tom brady skewed. Everything he skewed, 827 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: everything so you have to start, With, okay you don't 828 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: have brain, right but the. 829 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: Core is still and this is what we've been looking. 830 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: For look for the. Quarterback you, know if you have the, 831 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 4: quarterback you're gonna be in the. 832 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 6: Mix he's gonna help you win some. Games and then you, 833 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 6: know you start to stack around, him and you, know 834 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 6: Then drake. Starts the whole guy's, accountable and then those 835 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 6: guys start to hit that next. 836 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 4: Level that's the. 837 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 6: Hope you, know it's not all gonna happen this, Year 838 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 6: but for, me this second year A, drake it looks 839 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 6: like it's headed in a really positive, direction and that 840 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 6: this kid looks like it get he gets, it and 841 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 6: that's that's that's the best sign of. All i'd rather 842 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 6: have that than, have you, know this amazing wide receiver 843 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 6: here And drake's out there throwing picks every. 844 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 4: Other, throw you, know like The molak neighbors In New. 845 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 4: York is that what's going? 846 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 3: On but, YEAH i would just say, too LIKE i 847 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: don't want to downplay What diggs's looks like so far 848 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: in these practices, because LIKE i THINK i said this 849 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 3: yesterday on catch twenty, Two, like, dude The patriots might 850 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 3: have the fantasy relevant receiver for the first time in 851 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: like half a, Decade LIKE i, like if you're drafting for, 852 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: fantasy like dig is a legitimate person to draft in 853 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: a fantasy. 854 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 4: Draft. 855 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: NOW i don't know if the last TIME i had. 856 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: That Nathan connecticut's on the. Line what's, Up? 857 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 5: Nate thank you? 858 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 10: Guys Rem well, yeah, Yeah so FIRST i. 859 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 7: Just want to SAY i apologize for not calling. 860 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: In, yeah we were. 861 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: TALKING i was thinking about that. 862 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: Name, yeah we were all. WORRIED i, Know i'm. 863 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 10: Sorry. 864 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah across, Camp oh last, camp how'd you? 865 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 7: DO i? 866 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 10: THOUGHT i did pretty. Well you know we had a 867 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 10: pl guy was A pl. 868 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 7: Camp he's done take text and gets you sines out 869 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 7: of the Cross. Paul that was really. 870 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 10: Cool but, yeah the main reason. 871 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 7: Why paul did want to talk about The imagine. 872 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 10: Rating SO i know the highest rookie And john though. 873 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 7: Was the ninety five the second highest, uh second highest 874 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 7: graded corners the. 875 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 10: Game what are your thoughts on double. 876 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 7: Overalls kind of like where they do you Think GONZO'S 877 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 7: i Think gonzo's makes physically, fine. 878 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 9: BUT i know that. 879 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 7: Maybe like a dish a lot of guy he's. 880 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 3: Good, YEAH i did see That gonzo's second highest rated 881 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: corner in the. GAME i think Behind Patrick, serftan which 882 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 3: is thanks pretty. CRAZY i mean he was a second 883 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: Team All pro so it's he's right and the running 884 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: there AND i saw the. BOXES i appreciate mad and 885 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: know when it comes to, corners not putting any respect 886 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: on zone corners like do that on your own, Time, like, 887 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: Oh i'm just going to play the deep third on 888 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 3: my side of the, Field like, Cool, yeah our guy 889 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 3: he shadows. People, okay he, goes he takes the number, 890 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 3: one he, travels he, goes he goes in the slot 891 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 3: zero goes in the slot with. Him that's a lot 892 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 3: harder than you're playing your zone drop over. There so 893 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: good On madden for. 894 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: That me And never were walking Behind gonzo a few days, 895 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 4: ago just Just i'm. 896 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 6: Like i've seen him, before but like he's a, Specimen 897 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 6: like he's just the perfect kind of cornerback. BILL i, 898 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 6: MEAN i think he's listed at like six to, one 899 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 6: but he seems bigger than that to. Me he's still 900 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 6: a young, kid SO i think he's maybe he's filling 901 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 6: out more and that's what kind. 902 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: Of put on some. Bulk BUT i mean it's from 903 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 4: last season to this. SEASON i don't have anything to confirm. 904 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 3: That BUT i don't have anything to add about The madden. 905 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 4: Ratings do you think you're very upset about? HIM i 906 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 4: couldn't have any less to add about The Madden. 907 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 5: Rams it'll never cease to amaze me people's fascination with uniform, 908 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 5: numbers uniforms in, general And madden. 909 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: Ratings so do you want the do you want the 910 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 3: top the top? Five here on, Five i'll stop at. 911 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 3: Five Patrick surtan number, one ninety, Seven gonzo number, Two 912 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: Sauce gardner number, Three trent McDuffie number, Four Jalen ramsey number, 913 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 3: Five Derek stingley number. 914 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: Six duffy is he the? 915 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 4: One is he one of the ones that got away 916 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 4: that the cost this? Year one of the? Yes the 917 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 4: original was the trade. 918 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: DOWN i remember at the time of the, Draft trent 919 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: McDuffie went with The patriots original selection and there was 920 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 3: like a mix up with the call, line and like 921 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: at first it got reported that The patriots Drafted trent, 922 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: McDuffie but it was actually The chiefs that Drafted trent 923 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: McDuffie with The. Patriots tough. 924 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: One brad's In. Ohio, Hey, brad. 925 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 10: All, right it's talking TO. 926 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 9: I want TO i agree with the caller about. 927 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 10: The receivers, too. 928 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 9: Like you, did and he's a spot on with, that. 929 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 10: And SO i just wanted to give him a shout. 930 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: Out, okay and THEN. 931 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 11: I think that we should PROBABLY i think what's going 932 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 11: to happen with the receiver ring that we're gonna keep 933 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 11: more receieve then we technically would simply because if we 934 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 11: have the. 935 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 12: Lack of. 936 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 10: And we lost, it which is not you, know that's 937 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 10: really hurt our. OFFS i agree With evan. 938 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: And all of. 939 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 10: You we need to full, back not all of us With. 940 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 10: Daniels so what do you guys think about? 941 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 11: That Seth moore whom steps based on the fact that 942 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 11: we don't have depth in other areas you know? 943 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: Too, YEAH i feel like we were talking about that bread, 944 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 3: practice like if you if it comes you. Know another 945 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: guy that was noticeably with one of the groups today 946 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 3: the top group Was Land. Larrison they gave him maybe 947 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more reps, today and, like would you 948 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: rather Keep Land larrison who's flashed a little bit and 949 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 3: shown some potential over one of these third tight ends 950 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 3: who hasn't really done the same thing just because it's 951 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 3: a tight end versus running. 952 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 4: Back, YEAH i would rather keep the better. 953 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 5: Player and to answer the, question whatever amount of receivers 954 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: they're going to, KEEP i don't think is going to. 955 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 5: VARY i, MEAN i don't know if they're going to keep, six, seven, 956 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 5: FOUR i don't know what they're going to keep for. 957 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 5: Receivers BUT i think it's a dangerous game to get. Into, 958 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 5: well you only have two tight, ends so let's keep eight, 959 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 5: receivers and you've got to find the best players that 960 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 5: you have. Available Land, larison to me today Took Antonio 961 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 5: gibson spot who wasn't out. There if they think he's 962 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 5: one of the best, Players i'm all for Keeping Lane. 963 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 5: Larison if they Think Jalen polk is better Than Lane 964 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 5: larison and you want to keep a seventh receiver or 965 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 5: eft And chishm, whoever THEN i would keep Beftin. CHISLM 966 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 5: i think that's what needs to be especially with young. 967 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 5: Guys it's Like larys And. Chism to, me that's a 968 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 5: direct comparison to young. Guys you got to decide which 969 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 5: guy you want to develop the, most that you have 970 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 5: the most faith in being able to. 971 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: Develop so of all the, positions if you had to, say, 972 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: okay and you can only pick, one this is the 973 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: position where we're going to keep an extra, player then 974 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: we normally do what position would you do right? 975 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 6: Now, Off, Yeah i'm just going to SAY i think there, 976 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 6: too just to just to make sure if not cornerback 977 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 6: plus you. 978 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 3: Get like the extra spot on game day. Too if 979 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 3: you carry the extra active player on game, day you 980 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 3: get forty seven instead of. 981 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: Six SO i just think it's unlikely that all the 982 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: receivers that we have right now are just so good 983 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: that we have to keep an extra. ONE I i you, 984 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: know like so like you keep an extra one just 985 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: to have an extra. One, now if you do get 986 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: hit with, injuries you could probably just pick up somebody 987 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: off on. 988 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 4: One of those. 989 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: Guys it's probably going to be. AVAILABLE i, mean that's 990 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 5: on the Practice let's let's lookd at it from a 991 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 5: really objective spot. Here by most of these, metrics The 992 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 5: patriots wide receiver group is considered to be bottom. Five 993 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 5: so do you really think there's going to be a 994 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 5: lot of clamoring to pick up the guys that couldn't 995 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 5: make you a bottom five receiver. Group you're probably going 996 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 5: to be, able As evan just, said to put these 997 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 5: guys on the practice squad and then have them at 998 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 5: your disposal if you need them. 999 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 4: Or they get the, flu right and then and they 1000 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 4: get the, flu then you can't use it. 1001 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 6: Later the front office and the coaches know a lot 1002 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 6: more about these players than we. Do we only see 1003 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 6: them on the. Field they see them behind the, scenes 1004 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 6: and it's it's questions like do you feel Like Javon 1005 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 6: baker is going to suddenly hit that potential and we 1006 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 6: just can't give up on him. Yet he's got too 1007 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 6: much potential and it's such a valuable. 1008 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 4: Position you, Know we've we. 1009 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 6: Invested maybe the scouting staff is looking At Jalen polk, 1010 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 6: saying we still really love this. 1011 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: Kid we drafted, him and you, know it goes back 1012 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 4: out one if they feel like, that, right you know 1013 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 4: WHAT i? 1014 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 3: Mean, YEAH i JUST i GUESS i look at, it 1015 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: like do we JUST i feel like there's like a 1016 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 3: group of four receivers that are all kind of the 1017 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: same in the same, boat and it just it's not 1018 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 3: so much THAT i think that they're all so talented 1019 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 3: that we have to keep them. ALL i just don't 1020 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 3: know which one is the right one to keep. Me 1021 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 3: so it's just like if you just keep as many 1022 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 3: as you, can then maybe like you just throw those 1023 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 3: blind darts and eventually one of them hits like sort 1024 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 3: of thing like they like to douce his, point like 1025 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 3: they know which one to, keep you like to, think 1026 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 3: but they make mistakes all the time when it comes 1027 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: to that kind of. 1028 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 5: Stuff so, YEAH i Like deuce's you know analysis there, 1029 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 5: though like if you if they feel like these guys 1030 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 5: STILL i still don't know enough. Yet i'm not ready 1031 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 5: to pull the plug by all, means keep an extra 1032 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 5: one do it Was brad, RIGHT i Think brad wanted 1033 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 5: to keep you, know was thinking about maybe they'll keep 1034 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 5: an extra. One by all means don't don't discard a 1035 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 5: guy that you still believe. In it's because you think 1036 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 5: the roster needs to, be you, know constructed a certain. 1037 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 5: Way and plus we all know this happens a million. 1038 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 5: Times what you see On september seventh is not what 1039 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 5: you're going to end up seeing for the balance. 1040 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 6: Of the, season especially a position like wide receiver where 1041 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 6: you're searching and sometimes that does. Happen offensive, line we 1042 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 6: all talked about keeping an extra, guy And i'll use 1043 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 6: this transition to talk about Guy Truman, jones Who evan 1044 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 6: AND i both clocked. 1045 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 4: Yesterday not a lot of, reps but. 1046 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 6: Every now and then he's popping in there really thin 1047 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 6: overall in the edge. Depth and you know he's a 1048 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 6: guy that was around last. 1049 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 4: Year but you, know do you do you give up 1050 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 4: on edge rushers early AS i. Need it was on 1051 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 4: the it was on the HIGH. 1052 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 7: I didn't. 1053 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 6: Have it wasn't anything, big was JUST i, know it 1054 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 6: was like a couple of reps at the, start and 1055 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 6: then Inferony jennings comes in and it's, like, well are 1056 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 6: they just, saying, hey cup in, there get a little 1057 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 6: you get your feet? Wet or is it this kid's 1058 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 6: Pushing let's give them a couple. Reps you don't, know don't, 1059 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 6: know so just to see him out. 1060 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: There these are the things that clock you clock. 1061 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 3: With this is like a glass half, full glass half 1062 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 3: empty thing For deuce because he was given his, Boy 1063 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 3: Trey jacobs the business and, practice especially in one on. 1064 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 3: Ones Uh Tremaine jones got got him twice and one 1065 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 3: with like a really good spin move put him in 1066 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 3: the spin sec smart. Too Harvard he did go To, 1067 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 3: Harvard so, YEAH i Mean edge Dep we talked about that. 1068 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 3: Too you, Know Chase on looks like he's a, player 1069 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 3: looks like they might have hit on. Him LANDRY i 1070 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 3: think is going to be. Solid Keon white's going to 1071 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: be out. There But swinson ponder Maybe Truman jones is 1072 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 3: in that conversation, too like who's the fourth? Guy you, 1073 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 3: know who's going to be the extra guy they KEEP. 1074 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 6: I got a way too early question like this just 1075 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 6: popped in THEM i had With Chase, on IS i 1076 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 6: know The patriots are sitting on you, know still have 1077 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 6: a bunch of cap space at, least, like do you 1078 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 6: do you look at extending somebody at some point they 1079 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 6: have that. Money do you identify a player Like Chase 1080 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 6: on and feel, like, man it's really clicking for him 1081 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 6: at a high value position that we need to ensure long. 1082 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 4: Term he's still a young. 1083 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 6: Guy to someone like him who's only here right now 1084 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 6: on a one year, deal do, they you, know maybe 1085 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 6: make a move something like? 1086 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: That Ellen wisconsin writes In, So i'm not going to go. 1087 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 1: Crazy it's week two of training, camp but it really 1088 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: feels like this is the first time in five years 1089 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: that it looks like they've had AN nfl. Offense don't 1090 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 1: know how good it will, be but at LEAST nfl 1091 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: well caliber seems like a huge. Jump what are your. 1092 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: Thoughts i'm assuming what you mean since twenty twenty one 1093 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 3: that five, YEARS i don't know time five? 1094 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 4: Four, yeah it, does it. Does i'm. 1095 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 5: OPTIMISTIC i haven't seen that, yet, Though i'm. Optimistic, yeah 1096 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 5: AND i was not optimistic at this time last. 1097 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 4: Year, no neither WAS. 1098 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 6: I i, mean and then you were really not optimistic 1099 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 6: when The eagles came in. Here so get a lot 1100 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 6: of information next week with The commanders or The patriots 1101 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 6: able to make some, plays take some place LIKE i 1102 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 6: think that last Year eagles joint practice sums it up 1103 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 6: perfectly for me because it felt like The eagles just overwhelmed. 1104 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 6: THEM i Think patriots made some plays on the defensive 1105 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 6: side of the, ball but offensively they couldn't even run their. 1106 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 6: Offense so let's get into That wednesday practice next. Week, 1107 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 6: See i'm Sure redskins The commanders will make some, Plays i'm, 1108 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 6: sure but can The patriots continue to punch back bounce. 1109 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 6: Back that's one Thing i've really liked About Drake summers 1110 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 6: that if he's had a day where he was a little, 1111 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 6: off like a couple of days, ago didn't really seem 1112 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 6: to affect, him came, back continues to be effective and 1113 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 6: continues to not throw, interceptions, which let's face, it that 1114 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 6: was the buzzword for all of us all off season About. 1115 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 6: Drake so that's to, me it's just a, tangible great 1116 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 6: sign of a guy who needed to cut down on the. 1117 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 4: Turnovers that that's what he's doing in. Camp we'll see 1118 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 4: if it, translates but that's all you can ask of 1119 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 4: him at this. 1120 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: Point let's See tyler writes in From South. CAROLINA i 1121 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 1: just wanted to hear your thoughts in the linebacker. Room 1122 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: seems like we've solid depth of the defensive, line but 1123 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: how do we feel about depth at? Linebacker you guys 1124 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: have mentioned a splane goes down that could really be 1125 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: a major hit to the. Team has there been any 1126 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: other players to step on training camp so? Far Jack 1127 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: Gibbons Christian ellis also would love to hear your thoughts 1128 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: in the about the cornerback. Room who do you guys 1129 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: think will make the fifty three man Roster in that? 1130 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 3: Room Jack gibbons Put La larrison into Next wednesday yesterday 1131 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 3: and that was fun to. 1132 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: Watch, yeah that was. 1133 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 3: Cool it was the first TIME i feel Like i've 1134 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 3: Noticed Jack. Gibbons and that doesn't mean that he hasn't done, 1135 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 3: anything BUT i just the first real flash of, like, 1136 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 3: okay hey there he. Is So Christian ellis And Robert 1137 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 3: splaine right now divide not? Practicing are your top two 1138 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 3: linebackers pretty consistently every? Practice SO i think those two 1139 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 3: guys are. There Jack gibbons seems like a nice like 1140 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 3: third Linebacker corps special teamer type that will be in 1141 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 3: the mix as, well and then we have the experience 1142 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 3: experiment Of marte mop who at linebacker going on. Too 1143 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 3: so that's been like your top four in these practices so. 1144 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 4: FAR i kind of wish you had a guy Like 1145 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 4: gibbons last. 1146 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 6: YEAR i, mean it's gonna be a huge drop off 1147 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 6: As spolene went, down BUT i feel like he at 1148 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 6: least has the experience in the. SMARTS i real questions 1149 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 6: About Christian ellison. Exactly you, know last year felt like 1150 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 6: he was thrust into playing a full time role on. 1151 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 6: Defense he's primarily been a special. Teamer he's been a 1152 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 6: key piece right next To Robert spolne for most of this. 1153 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 6: CAMP i, mean is he ready to take a? Jump 1154 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 6: is he ready to really bloss him in this? OFFENSE 1155 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 6: i know he could, Run he's he's got, speed you, 1156 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 6: know but last year was it was. CHOPPY i don't 1157 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 6: think anybody would have come out of the end like 1158 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 6: after the last game last year and been, like that's 1159 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 6: a guy we need to hold on to one. 1160 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 4: Defense and so that to me a little bit. 1161 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 6: Interesting here was It Alex Park because So i'm interested 1162 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 6: to see how that all fits together and If ellis 1163 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 6: is able to really Compliment. Splaine but it all starts With. 1164 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 6: Splain he is now your guy in the, middle making the, 1165 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 6: calls setting the, tone and hopefully making the. 1166 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 4: Plays and he's been really active all. 1167 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: Camp Pete, seattle, right Sim we all agree That bradberry 1168 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: is a below average, center especially when it comes to pass. 1169 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: Protection that, SAID pff ranks him as an above average run. 1170 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: Blocker in twenty four with The, Vikings evan And barth 1171 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: spoke yesterday On cast twenty two about how good a 1172 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: run game can help pass. Protection my question is, this 1173 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: given that The vikings in twenty four had a stationary 1174 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: quarterback In, bradford and we're a very pass heavy. 1175 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 4: Offense, yeah who's not a stationary Quarter? 1176 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: YEAH i, Continue, YEAH i was thinking At bradford and 1177 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: that the twenty Five pats will have a run heavy 1178 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: offense with a mobile. Quarterback is it fair to think 1179 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: that the twenty Five patriot it might be a much 1180 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: better fit For bradbury's skill set at. CENTER i think. 1181 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 3: That's a long. 1182 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 10: Way. 1183 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 13: Yeah but. 1184 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 3: WHAT i like about BRAD i like his. Athleticism that 1185 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 3: was the thing that got him. Drafted it was very 1186 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 3: highly athletic, center and because of, that it translates to 1187 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 3: probably the run game a little bit better because he 1188 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 3: can get out and move and make blocks on the. 1189 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 3: Move but WHAT i like about Brad berry is the, 1190 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 3: experience you. KNOW i think it's a guy that you can. 1191 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: Trust he's a, steady experienced, veteran AND i think that 1192 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 3: that's going to go a long way if you have 1193 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 3: two rookies starting and you, know a lot of new 1194 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 3: faces on that offensive line to begin with a second year, 1195 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 3: Quarterback like it helps to have a center that's year 1196 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 3: seven in the league and has seen everything and knows 1197 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 3: what he's looking. At SO i don't really have very, 1198 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 3: many like big concerns About. BRADBERRY i Think bradbury is 1199 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 3: going to be fine for. Them it's also just it's a, 1200 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 3: center and that's a piece of it. Too BUT i 1201 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 3: think he's gonna be. 1202 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: Okay deshaun's In. Virginia Hate DeShawn. 1203 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 14: Good Oppeno yeah Hate. Hey that's WHY i thought to 1204 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 14: a few. Things like the first thing is LIKE i 1205 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 14: feel like as long as they picked the right receiver 1206 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 14: that's been playing in practice soot fall and they're competent, 1207 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 14: enough AND i think with made, playing biking ability will 1208 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 14: elevate the guys. Alone you, KNOW i played off to 1209 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 14: be much. Better uh you, know, uh such with Doctor 1210 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 14: jennis calling, it you know we'd go along with Jet 1211 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 14: mad's playing, ability playmaking. Ability excuse. Me then when it 1212 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 14: also comes to the call him about The manton thing or, 1213 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 14: WHATEVER i think That. Gonzo. Uh Eventually frona be like 1214 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 14: the very best corner because because the corner he's he 1215 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 14: has to package to benefit. 1216 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 10: HIM i like the other corners has telling me saying 1217 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 10: a little bits and SAYING i want to touch on. 1218 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 14: A seams before things like, That, uh the the right by. 1219 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 14: Selected uh REMEMBER i don't want to and they talk 1220 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 14: about will be the problem right? 1221 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: Now, okay thanks To, sean. 1222 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: Can you get all that? Virtually? 1223 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 6: Not, well you got the little camel, part AND i 1224 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 6: mean it's probably you know worth talking that that he 1225 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 6: got beat a couple of times to the, Inside, uh 1226 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 6: both in one on one drills as well as in team. 1227 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 6: Drills and you, know to me it was obvious because 1228 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 6: everyone talked about. It and how often do you you 1229 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 6: watch it an offensive line and everybody sees exactly what 1230 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 6: happened and what the problem. Was and to me like, 1231 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 6: that he just has to improve on that. STUFF i 1232 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 6: don't you, KNOW i don't know how you connect it 1233 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 6: to if he had an extra, inch he wouldn't get 1234 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 6: beat to the. 1235 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 4: Inside and we get into like always overset and all this. 1236 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: Stuff it's all about speed. 1237 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 4: There it. Is it's on. Tape it put it. 1238 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 6: Up you can't get beat like, that and THAT i 1239 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 6: mean that is that's anes that gets your. Beat play, right, 1240 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 6: like that's an s that gets you beat that he 1241 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 6: that can't. Happen so if it, continues then you have a. 1242 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 6: Problem but you, KNOW i don't want to go get too. 1243 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 6: Crazy but it was so obvious to everybody watching how 1244 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 6: cleanly he got beat to the. Inside so it's got 1245 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 6: to be. Fixed AND i JUST i refuse to believe 1246 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 6: that that's. Something they're, Like, nope that's just how it. 1247 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 6: Is he Can't that's that's always how it's gonna. Be 1248 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 6: he's never gonna be able to got to be. 1249 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: Fixed you, know you can't have. That but he's adjusting 1250 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: to the speed right. Now it's it's all about. Speed 1251 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: it's not like he doesn't have the ability to be 1252 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: a good. Tackle he's getting beat because he's just not 1253 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 1: getting to a spot quick. 1254 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 3: Enough, well he's getting but he's it's the same way 1255 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 3: he's getting beat in. College like it depends on who you, ask, 1256 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 3: right if you, ask like you, KNOW i took a 1257 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 3: talk To Duke mannyweather who's worked with him all off. 1258 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 3: Season duke will tell you it's it's, footwork, right it's, 1259 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: footwork and like just body positioning and like where he 1260 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 3: is opening his hips and and where his feet are 1261 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,720 Speaker 3: and things like. That The mays airs With Will campbell 1262 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 3: will tell you it's arm. Length and the big thing 1263 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,879 Speaker 3: with the arm length is is that he has when 1264 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 3: speed rushers are coming off the edge to, him he 1265 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,439 Speaker 3: needs to set aggressively out to them because he can't 1266 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 3: reach to get, them so like he has to get 1267 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 3: out there to get his hands on. Him and when 1268 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 3: he does, that he's over. 1269 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: Compensated but looking when you see and before we go any, 1270 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: further he's not getting beat on every, play but when 1271 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: he does get, beat you really think one inch more 1272 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: of an arm is going to make a. DIFFERENCE i 1273 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: don't really. 1274 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 7: KNOW i. 1275 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 5: CAN i just offer something you're not it's not you're 1276 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 5: not looking at it the right way at. All evan 1277 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 5: just explained. IT i think perfectly if you are concerned 1278 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 5: about your ability to, Reach you're. Cheating that's why he's 1279 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,919 Speaker 5: getting beat to the, inside say the. NAYSAYERS i don't 1280 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 5: want to say what we're saying Because i'm Not Dante. 1281 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 5: SCARNAKIA i do not break down the film at an 1282 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 5: expert level to. Understand but what people are, considering and 1283 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 5: this is what happened to him in, college is that 1284 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 5: he knew that he didn't have the, reach so we 1285 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 5: often would over commit with his set and get beat 1286 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 5: to the. 1287 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 4: Inside that is About. Armlanfeng, YEAH i. 1288 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: DON'T i. Disagree, Okay, yeah that's. 1289 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 4: Fine i'm not telling you that it. IS i don't 1290 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 4: Think i'm not qualified to tell you if it. 1291 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: Is, YEAH i don't think he's worried about his arm 1292 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: like other people might. Be, okay BUT i don't. 1293 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 3: Think he said he is worried about. ARMLENGTH i just 1294 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 3: think that that's the physical limitation that he's working. Against 1295 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: that's my. 1296 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: Point but, honestly, again when you look at, it do 1297 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: you think one inch would make a? 1298 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 4: Difference, YES i don't. Know, well can he can he 1299 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 4: stop over setting like? That can that be the? 1300 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: Coach? 1301 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 3: Okay BUT i don't don't know if he, overseets then 1302 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 3: the guy to the, outside he's not gonna be able 1303 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 3: to get his hands on the. Guy so then the 1304 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 3: guy is just going to go around his. 1305 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 6: Corner but the way you're describing it is like there's 1306 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 6: no answer and this is just how it's always going to. 1307 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 4: Be we don't know. THAT i Think evan AND i 1308 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 4: are very quick to say we don't know. 1309 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 14: That it's not. 1310 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 4: FIXABLE i think it's. 1311 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 6: Fixable but he's not going to grow, armlengths so he 1312 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 6: either has to stop over setting OR i think it's 1313 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 6: going to be an expressway through the. 1314 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 3: Want him to play, guard you. Know And i'm not 1315 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 3: saying that that's. Me i'm saying naysayers BECAUSE i don't 1316 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 3: agree with those people all the time about. It BUT 1317 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 3: i think With Will, Campbell i'm With deuce LIKE i 1318 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 3: would tell him he's got to be a little bit more, 1319 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 3: patient like and the main thing is is like trust your. 1320 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 3: Feet he has great, feet he's a really good. Athlete 1321 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 3: he's really. Smooth so just take a, second like sit 1322 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 3: back for just a half a second longer and react 1323 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 3: to what the rusher is where he's going. Right, instead 1324 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 3: instead he's trying to because he's got awesome grip, straight 1325 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: so he's just trying to get his hands on the 1326 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 3: guy and win the rep, immediately like just end it 1327 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 3: and shut it. Down and because of, that he's getting 1328 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 3: he's getting. Overextended and when he gets over, extended they 1329 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 3: can't they go back. 1330 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 4: Inside so it means it sounds like it and this 1331 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 4: is like a, habit like this is just something that they. 1332 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 9: Have it's. 1333 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 4: Not it's not a new habit that developed in the, internet, 1334 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 4: Right and that's. 1335 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: Why they could get away with it in. 1336 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 5: College but that's WHY i think it's reckless to suggest 1337 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 5: that it has nothing to do with, it that it's 1338 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 5: not a mental thing with. 1339 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 4: Him he's been doing it since he was AT. 1340 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 5: Ls that was one of the red flags on, him 1341 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,959 Speaker 5: and that's why some people felt he was a guard 1342 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 5: because they felt like he had to over, commit which 1343 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 5: allowed him to be susceptible to that inside. 1344 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Move. 1345 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, YEAH i don't. 1346 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 5: Know if he doesn't over, commit if he can handle 1347 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 5: the outside speed, rush we'll find. 1348 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 3: Out it's funny like because the first time that it's 1349 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 3: really came up was yesterday Against Bradon, swinson who was 1350 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 3: his teammate AT. Lsu so you, Know Brandon swinson's used 1351 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 3: that same move Against Will campbell for the last three. 1352 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Years and so he got up and he got a 1353 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 3: one on one against Against Will, campbell and what does he. 1354 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 3: Do first thing he does goes to the inside. Move 1355 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 3: so it's it's one of those vulnerabilities for. Him it's 1356 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 3: something that that he's worked on all off season and 1357 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 3: continues to work on. 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Chemistry throws THAT i WISH i had, 1424 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 8: back missed some, touchdowns you, know two practically go in 1425 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 8: the red. Zone there's just that's what you're out here, 1426 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 8: for you. KNOW i think you hurt myself on trying 1427 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 8: to make those throws and make the easy, ones but 1428 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 8: that that's what it's out, here timing and the guys 1429 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 8: up front and battling their butts. Off it's a little 1430 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 8: better against the. Defense were able to run the football 1431 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 8: on a little bit and they're not just playing the. 1432 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 8: Past SO i think we're coming, together you, know jeling, 1433 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 8: nicely AND i, think you, know just keep. On you've 1434 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 8: got a good look with our. Defense they have some 1435 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 8: good players over, there so we're getting some great work 1436 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 8: and we just gotta keep building into joint practices and 1437 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 8: keep it. 1438 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 4: Going you're not supposed to you go, ahead do you 1439 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 4: feeling work for? 1440 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 5: Corogression for yourself right. 1441 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 4: NOW i mean that's what you. 1442 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 8: HOPE i, think you, Know i'm trying to come from 1443 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 8: this offense kind of take the next steps as as we, 1444 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 8: go AND i, think you, know the real test will 1445 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 8: be when the games comes and when we getting these joint. 1446 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 8: Practices So i'm looking. Forward you, Know i'm proud of 1447 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 8: work we've done AND i feel. GOOD i feel a good. 1448 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 8: Spot but you, KNOW i think it's still a lot 1449 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 8: of work. 1450 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 4: Left you, now baseball you're not supposed to talk. 1451 01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 18: About, yeah the same thing applying guys going through six 1452 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 18: practices of training. 1453 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:03,439 Speaker 4: Camp and as a torn. 1454 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,439 Speaker 8: Pick you, KNOW i think it's one of those things 1455 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 8: Where i'm trying to take care of the football and 1456 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 8: maybe they could have had a few here and. THERE 1457 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 8: i think Pet make should have had one of the, 1458 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 8: first you know. PRACTICE i joke am in him about, 1459 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 8: it but, YEAH i think that's A i think that's 1460 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 8: a goal of ursc of the. Football AND i, think you, 1461 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 8: know not trying to LIKE i, said, yeah throw off 1462 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 8: the perfect game or no, Hitter BUT i think that's 1463 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 8: that's part of not scared to throw, them still not gun. 1464 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 18: Shy so that's what's interesting to watch is you're still 1465 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 18: throwing it into two tight areas checked. 1466 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 14: Out after checked. 1467 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 18: Out do you feel as if you're an equal opportunity 1468 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 18: quarterback at this point because you're still getting to learn 1469 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 18: a lot of these players. 1470 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 8: TOO i think it's you, know it's easy to throw 1471 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 8: the check down or you, know it's not, realistic you, 1472 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 8: know moving them moving the football and getting big kind 1473 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 8: of chunk, plays which is the plays you want in 1474 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 8: games where you're not throwing the ball down the field 1475 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 8: and throwing it tight. Windows AND i THINK i did 1476 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 8: a little bit that in the, spring trying throw some 1477 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 8: tighter windows and, uh you, KNOW i think just you, 1478 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 8: know through a little more. Interceptions but that's what you're 1479 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 8: out here, for you. Know you try to you know feel, 1480 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 8: it kind of, feel, hey can this work or can 1481 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 8: this work against these guys this. Level SO i try 1482 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 8: to use it as that and kind of once as 1483 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 8: they're closer to the, football time start playing some some 1484 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 8: real hey take care of the football. 1485 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 3: Mindset Josh jobs was. 1486 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 7: Saying at the end of the day That josh McDaniels 1487 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 7: is trying to take advantage of the quarterbacks all of your. 1488 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 5: Athleticism, yeah do you see a change in philosophy in. 1489 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 4: Terms of how much they may or may not want 1490 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 4: you to run the. 1491 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 2: Football, YEAH i MEAN. 1492 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 8: I think it's it's an even balance of you, know 1493 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 8: gain extra. Hat you, know were having the quarterback be 1494 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 8: able to run the, football he's get extra. Number you, 1495 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 8: know you're making eleven on eleven instead of ten on. 1496 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 8: Eleven SO i think it's always a you, know it's 1497 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 8: a useful AND i think at the end of the, 1498 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 8: Day i'll make some plays kind of all schedule, anyway 1499 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 8: but mixing in the quarterback run game is Something i'm open. 1500 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 8: To AND i think it's always tough when a defense 1501 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 8: has to cover that and keep that in. MIND i 1502 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 8: think whatever they whatever they put me up, TO i 1503 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 8: think it's you, know they do a good. Job and, 1504 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 8: coaches you, know want Some Super, bowls you, know coaching the. 1505 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 8: Offense So i'm kind of prayer for Whatever. 1506 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 19: Mike mike had, Mentioned, Minister i'm talking about the quarter 1507 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 19: Cons LIKE i get you to these young players are, 1508 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 19: fearless but there has to be you have to learn 1509 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 19: how to protect. Yourself is That are they hammering that 1510 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 19: point home to, you, like, hey we need you for Seventeen. 1511 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 14: YEAH i think that's. 1512 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 8: IMPORTANT i THINK I i faced that in. COLLEGE i 1513 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 8: was my first. YEAR i was really kind of running 1514 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 8: around and you, know doing some STUFF i probably shouldn't 1515 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 8: have them out there with with pads. On SO i 1516 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 8: think just taking care of my body and being, smart 1517 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 8: but also you, know knowing when it's third, down when 1518 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 8: you know near the end, zone Like i'm six five 1519 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 8: and two hundred and thirty, pounds go go get. 1520 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 20: Something so the offensive, line how are you seeing that 1521 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 20: come together after these you know first, take. 1522 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 4: Those guys are. 1523 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 8: BATTLING i think they're battling using different cades, is using different, 1524 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 8: pros were changing mic, points like they're really getting a 1525 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 8: good grasp of. It i'm proud of those guys up. 1526 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 8: Front we got next you, know next man up. Mentality 1527 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 8: some guys are getting banged up and some guys are 1528 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 8: fighting through. Injuries so just par our. Position they don't 1529 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 8: get enough love. Ever AND i think you, know the 1530 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 8: coaching staff and what the off of the lineman, doing you, 1531 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 8: KNOW i think they will be doing throughout the whole. 1532 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 8: Season has being going to be Impressive, josh you know working. 1533 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 3: With, him but where do you feel like he's been 1534 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 3: able to help develop you the most especially going through 1535 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 3: these first couple of days. 1536 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 4: Of a full pandem. 1537 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 8: Print, yeah just, uh just playing the. Position you, know 1538 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 8: it's it's tough to coach a, position let alone play. 1539 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 8: IT i think it's, uh you, know the big thing 1540 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 8: is having somebody in that room who you know wants 1541 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 8: to challenge, you wants to coach me. Hard and you're 1542 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 8: talking McDaniels Or dobs. Coach, Yeah i'll talk about coach. 1543 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 8: Anyway but, yeah that has been great in the room as. 1544 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 8: Well but, Coach, YEAH i think he was done at 1545 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 8: a high. Level he's been a head coach who've seen 1546 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 8: a lot of different, stuff who's seen the kind of 1547 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 8: evolution of the game of football in the past twenty 1548 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 8: years coaching. It SO i think he's got a lot of. 1549 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 8: Experience AND i Think i'm just trying to ask some 1550 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 8: questions and pick his brain and try, to you, know 1551 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 8: soak up EVERYTHING i. 1552 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 21: Can the, spring you talked a lot about added expectations 1553 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 21: and you, know being a, leader do you feel like 1554 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 21: the are who is still play in the right direction 1555 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 21: here at this stage to. 1556 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 8: Kill you, know it's hard to just put expectations on, 1557 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 8: it BUT i, think you, KNOW i like we're at 1558 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 8: think we're practicing. Hard we're coming out here in these 1559 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 8: walkthroughs and focusing and, details AND i think there's gonna 1560 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,640 Speaker 8: be times, where you, know there's there's DAYS i here 1561 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 8: we didn't feel like we had goose practices we. Wanted 1562 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 8: but right NOW i feel like we've got a, good you, 1563 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 8: know head of steam. GOING i think we're gonna have 1564 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 8: a scrimmage, tomorrow which will be fun splitting up the, 1565 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 8: Team SO i, think, uh looking forward to, that AND i, 1566 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 8: think you, KNOW i think it's really you find out 1567 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 8: you're gonna have a chance every, week you, know to 1568 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 8: go out there and prove. Yourself and, uh a lot 1569 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 8: of these games come down to one. Score so just 1570 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 8: what the details and the little things are about how 1571 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 8: much of people. 1572 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 21: Working with Specifically stefan seems like already you guys have 1573 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,440 Speaker 21: a nice, wore. 1574 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 1: Especially down in The Red. 1575 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 21: Zille what does he do specifically well that you like 1576 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 21: to see as far as getting open its, scoring. 1577 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: It's just a. 1578 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 4: Mindset it's attacking the. 1579 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 8: Football you, know a guy like, that you know his, 1580 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 8: stature who's you, know got a lot of touchdowns in 1581 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 8: this league and made a lot of big. Plays he 1582 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 8: wants to go get the, football and he tells me 1583 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 8: all the, time just you, know the balls in the 1584 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 8: air is gonna be. Mine SO i think that's it's comforting, 1585 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 8: here not from those, guys AND i think that's kind 1586 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,640 Speaker 8: of starting to become something in the receiver. Room that's the, 1587 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 8: mindset you, know the balls in, there go get. It 1588 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 8: SO i think, it's, uh it's comfortable hearing that it's 1589 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 8: comfortable a guy who's also gone out there improved. 1590 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 3: It really makes a comment like, that do you already 1591 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 3: have the confidence in him that when you throw the 1592 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 3: ball up, there like he's gonna be able to catch? It, 1593 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 3: like how are you going to build that connection that 1594 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna son that he's got? 1595 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 8: IT i mean it comes with me making a good 1596 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 8: throw as. Well so that's, uh just trying to do 1597 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 8: my part and let those, guys you, know they get, 1598 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 8: paid you know a lot of. Money you, know you know, 1599 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 8: Too so let those guys make their plays and just 1600 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 8: kind of kind of comes off the you, know feeding 1601 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 8: off each other of letting them do their part and you, 1602 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 8: know kind of doing mind. 1603 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 10: Stuff is if he doesn't tell you what you want 1604 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 10: here and tells. 1605 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:36,600 Speaker 7: You what you need to. 1606 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 14: Hear, yeah have you had that kind of. 1607 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 8: EXPERIENCE i think that's. HUGE i think that's kind of 1608 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 8: what we're trying to build around. HERE i think it starts, 1609 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 8: with you, know the head coach of telling you what 1610 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 8: you need to hear instead of what you want to. 1611 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 8: HEAR i think that's that's that starts A it's a 1612 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 8: good start to where we want to. Go AND i, 1613 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 8: think you, know there's times where we need to love 1614 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 8: somebody up a little, extra BUT i think it comes 1615 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 8: down from the head coach and it's kind of you, 1616 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 8: know top down. 1617 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 5: Like. 1618 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,719 Speaker 4: STUFF a couple of issues with center quarterback in this. Change, 1619 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 4: yeah what do you think is causing? Those and do 1620 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 4: you think you guys are fixing it at this? 1621 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 7: Point? 1622 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 8: YEAH i MEAN i think you, know sometimes it gets 1623 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,600 Speaker 8: it's fall campus ninety five degrees out. Here you have 1624 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 8: at the same, time you can't put the gall on the, 1625 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 8: ground and some of it's little pre snap, uh you, 1626 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 8: know be on the same. Page AND i think other than, 1627 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 8: that it's my part to you, know get on there 1628 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 8: and get the. Ball So i'm not it's not a big. 1629 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 8: Issue and you, KNOW i think it's something that that 1630 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 8: these guys have figured out they got a tough. Job 1631 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 8: they got a not talking, football but they got you, 1632 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 8: know a big three hundred and fifty pounds guy and 1633 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 8: they're moving right and they're snapping it with the same 1634 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 8: hand and then coming up to block. Them it's tough 1635 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 8: part of them and it's uh just feeling stuff like. 1636 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 8: That that's it's pretty cool seeing how that stuff works 1637 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,719 Speaker 8: out and how much that stuff. 1638 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 3: Changes SO u pre snap stuff is going just you, 1639 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 3: know setting the protections and all that stuff at the. 1640 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 8: Time, yeah you will. 1641 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:53,640 Speaker 1: HELP i did in. 1642 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 8: College you'll kind of send the. Line me and my 1643 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 8: center we kind of sent the line where we wanted 1644 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 8: and and changed it and uh will bit. That and 1645 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 8: there's a little bit of that last year of getting 1646 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 8: the protection. Right BUT i, think uh it's. Starting it's 1647 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 8: it's started to come. ALONG i think it's it's nice 1648 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 8: knowing you, know it's my job to send those guys 1649 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 8: the right spot and you'll get them the same page 1650 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 8: and get all those guys you, know all loving. Us 1651 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 8: it starts with, me you, know on you, know uh 1652 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 8: kind of route the huddle of getting the guys in 1653 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 8: the right spot and getting the play. Started and it's 1654 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 8: starting with a good. Huddle so it's Like i'm a 1655 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 8: good spot AND i think those guys are are doing 1656 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 8: a good job of listening to. Me and if it's 1657 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 8: a look that we need to change, it they've done 1658 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 8: a great. 1659 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 4: Job so thank, you. Guys and now great moments in. 1660 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 4: History she's my lines are way off this. Week, YEAH 1661 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 4: i JUST i. DON'T i don't believe. 1662 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: In do you get your lines From jimmy The? 1663 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 4: Barbers it's week too the spread AND i JUST i 1664 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 4: just go to draft. 1665 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 3: Cans ESPN's had the same lines As. 1666 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 4: Paul so we go to. 1667 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Draft no. 1668 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:54,719 Speaker 3: Listening. 1669 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 5: DRAFT i mean they are are presenting sponsor for the 1670 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 5: post game. Show SO i think that we can draft, 1671 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,640 Speaker 5: OUT i mean show a little of every. Week you, 1672 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 5: MOCKING i can't go to you go to? 1673 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 3: Draft why don't you go to? 1674 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 1: DRAFT i. 1675 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 4: Can't i'm not allowed. 1676 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 6: To FRED i signed a, contractably it's not allowed to use. 1677 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 4: It you can't even look at, It, paul they don't even. 1678 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,760 Speaker 4: GO i look at it every. Week you can see 1679 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 4: Every thursday, MORNING i. 1680 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,560 Speaker 1: Come grandfather. 1681 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 3: Has different, rules like this is not? 1682 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 4: Serious, right that's another great? 1683 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Moment all? 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Community, so AS i teased, 1692 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 1: EARLIER i, said we're going to have a special guest 1693 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: after the break and none other than the host of 1694 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,519 Speaker 1: the world Renowned Claire perspective podcast emanating from THE. Uk 1695 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: It's Claire. Cooper, everybody we need a hell over in 1696 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: there you. Go claire is. Here she's visiting The, states 1697 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: particularly training. Camp you've been here for the last two, 1698 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: days so first Welcome and is this the first time 1699 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: you've been to? Camp, Yes so tell us from your, 1700 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: perspective The Claire. Perspective how was? Camp talking to the, ye. 1701 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 7: It was. 1702 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 22: Great yesterday was. Practice there was a lot going. ON 1703 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 22: i think the one thing is so much going on 1704 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 22: though and not watching the ghost. 1705 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 20: Practice you kind of get in the atmosphere of The patriots. 1706 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 20: Fans you've got the media as well if you want 1707 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 20: to come and, say. 1708 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 3: Oh do some of the media that you. 1709 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 22: See so there's just so. Much and it was yesterday as, 1710 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 22: well it was a bit more hard to. 1711 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 3: Concentrate it was. 1712 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 6: Cooler, Sorry, yeah, no you got kind of the spectrum 1713 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 6: Of patriots. Camp you got a super, hot padded practice 1714 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 6: and then today you got a cold walk. 1715 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 4: THROUGH i don't. KNOW i don't know if there's anything 1716 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 4: in between. That that's the two. 1717 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Extremes so from what you've heard about camp and seen and, 1718 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 1: video was there any were you surprised by anything the 1719 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 1: layout or how it, looked or was there anything different 1720 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 1: than what you. Imagined i'll be, HONEST i. 1721 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 22: Didn't really picture. 1722 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 20: ANYTHING i kind of knew where the practice field was 1723 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 20: from walking past when we came To jellett four, five 1724 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 20: six years, ago SO i knew. 1725 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 1: It was this is. 1726 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 22: Separate but it's, yeah it's just. It deuce is. 1727 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 20: Right it is amazing to come as a. Fan if 1728 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 20: if you're going to do, anything if you can do 1729 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 20: anything like, that you. Should it's great that it's. Free 1730 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 20: obviously there's always but there's also perks as, well if 1731 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,560 Speaker 20: you like see the ticket holders and stuff like, that 1732 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 20: which is which is really. Cool but, yeah you get 1733 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 20: sort of semi FaceTime with some of the. Players you 1734 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 20: get them to sign. THINGS i got to Ask rabel a. Question, so, 1735 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 20: Yeah rabel might remember me now BECAUSE i called him 1736 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 20: Mister rabel coach. 1737 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:21,679 Speaker 1: Sir so he like any interaction with any tight. 1738 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 4: That you much preferred him as a tight end and a. 1739 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 4: LINEBACKER i didn't have. 1740 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 20: CHANCE i did ask him who on the roster would 1741 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 20: make the best tight end out of the linebackers at the, 1742 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 20: moment and he kind of, SAID i don't want to 1743 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 20: play favorites at the, moment so he. 1744 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: DIDN'T i pronounced. IT i emphasized the instead of tight, 1745 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: ends they said. Tightens any interaction. 1746 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 7: With a. 1747 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 22: No, comment, okay all, right she's interacting with a couple right. 1748 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Now, Okay so besides coming to, practice what have you 1749 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 1: done while you've been? Here have you visited anything in the. 1750 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 20: AREA i really haven't Had champ it turned up like 1751 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 20: for one. Reason yeah, Today, yeah complete labor not, yet 1752 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 20: but it's on the. 1753 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 1: List, yeah that's one of my favorite. Place any restaurants not, Yet, 1754 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 1: NO i haven't been here long. 1755 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 4: Enough have you been eating? Food i've had some food two. 1756 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 4: DAYS i, know. 1757 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 3: Practice is two. 1758 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 1: HOURS i mean you. 1759 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 20: Know there was breakfast at the hotel on where are 1760 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 20: We thursday to day, yesterday and then we went to 1761 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 20: practice and then we had food in the hospitality BECAUSE 1762 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 20: i had SOME vop. 1763 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 22: Passes for some big shout out To, andy thanks for THE. 1764 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Vip it was. 1765 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 22: Awesome it was, awesome amazing. 1766 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 3: Yesterday so good. 1767 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 20: Yesterday so, yeah we are there and then kind of 1768 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 20: crashed because of jet lag and it was so. 1769 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 22: Hot, yesterday so, yes it wasn't. It, yeah, okay, yeah you're. 1770 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 4: Crazy he LOVES i love it when it's like sixty 1771 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 4: eight in the summer with a twenty hour. Winter, same 1772 01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 4: you love it when it's one hundred and. Five it was. 1773 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 4: Awesome the last three that was heat. 1774 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 20: Stroke, yeah, yeah exactly. Perfect i'm a delicate pale flower 1775 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 20: to cope with. It, yesterday SO i kind of crashed out. 1776 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 20: Yesterday today was just. 1777 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 1: Well, today we've got more sun yesterday than you're. Doing, yeah. 1778 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 4: Everybody stepped on that. 1779 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: One all. Right so let's talk some, football because you 1780 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 1: know the clear perspective you talk. 1781 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 22: Football, yeah and ice cream sometimes as. 1782 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 8: Well so tell us what. 1783 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 1: You're thinking about the wide receivers because we had a 1784 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 1: lengthy conversation to start the show about how they're going 1785 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,360 Speaker 1: to handle the amount of receivers that they, have who, 1786 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: stays who? Goes will they keep an extra? Receiver what 1787 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 1: do you think about the current state of the wide 1788 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 1: receivers with The? 1789 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 20: Patriots to be, FAIR i agree with What paul said 1790 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 20: with the whole it's you're looking at, receivers not just wide. 1791 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,560 Speaker 20: Receivers so it really needs to be what's best for the. 1792 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 20: Offense because of the offense he WAS i hate to 1793 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,799 Speaker 20: say so bad last, season but, okay because the offense 1794 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 20: wasn't great last. Season it's it's really needs to be 1795 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 20: about who the best players are and what the best fit, 1796 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,639 Speaker 20: is regardless of what the letters, are so to, speak did. 1797 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,600 Speaker 6: Any of those guys stand out, yes straighter and practice 1798 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 6: to you or did you find? Yourself what do when 1799 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 6: you find your gravitating towards because you're, right, like there's 1800 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 6: so much to. 1801 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Watch hell of course. 1802 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 4: Non tight. 1803 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 3: End you were Just, HENRY i, mean is, Great it's 1804 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 3: going to be. Good, yes it's gonna be somebody else. 1805 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 20: That's, Fair Oh, Bell, yeah more BECAUSE i didn't necessarily 1806 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 20: see him as, much but more because he came over 1807 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 20: was really nice to. Me WHEN i told him THAT 1808 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 20: i was all the way From. England he thought it was, 1809 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:48,560 Speaker 20: brilliant and he signed my football and My titans rule, sign. 1810 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 22: My football and my Sign you're. 1811 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,680 Speaker 4: Gonna go back. Loaded you got you got all the 1812 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 4: all the. Stuff but that's WHAT i. 1813 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,679 Speaker 6: Like, LIKE i, mean because we all sometimes you watch practice, 1814 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 6: together it's sometimes we, don't and then we congregate and 1815 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 6: we compare, notes AND i, MEAN i think that's WHAT 1816 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 6: i like about it is you, know sometimes we'll see 1817 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,600 Speaker 6: something that the other guy doesn't see or you, know so, 1818 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 6: yeah you just kind of have fun and that's, like all, 1819 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 6: right Well i'm gonna watch WHAT i. 1820 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,599 Speaker 4: Want but that was, it though Tight. Ends you didn't 1821 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 4: like No Kyle wyne catches or. Anything Just hunter And 1822 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 4: henry was a Little Austin hober too. 1823 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,400 Speaker 6: Well and then they signed like two Tight ends last. 1824 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 6: Night so did you think that was because of your? 1825 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 4: Arrival so? 1826 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 1: Clear how do you have a clear perspective if all 1827 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 1: you're focused on is Tight? 1828 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 20: Ends, well to be, FAIR i did actually watch the 1829 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 20: rest and there was you, know there was some good. 1830 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 20: Places BUT i saw ft and chish and. 1831 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 22: Runs around a. Lot saw his. 1832 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 20: NUMBER i mean he's quite, small well from a distance, 1833 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 20: anyway it was quite relatively and he was, yeah well, 1834 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 20: yeah relatively, speaking everybody's huge Because i'm only, like, yes, 1835 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 20: so but, yeah saw him running around a. Lot, now 1836 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,560 Speaker 20: whether that was just the context of WHAT i was 1837 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 20: watching at the time and the whole grand scheme of, 1838 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,799 Speaker 20: things he wasn't as, much but, yeah saw he's jersey flashing. 1839 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 22: Around so that was that was. Interesting what did you. 1840 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 1: Think Of Drake may in? Person he's. 1841 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 22: Cool, YEAH i didn't get to see him much when 1842 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 22: you watched. 1843 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,639 Speaker 20: Him, yeah he was oh, yeah oh, yeah definitely has 1844 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 20: that presence AND i was excited as soon as he was, 1845 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 20: drafted to be honest with, You so it's it's. 1846 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 3: Just all all. 1847 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Right so you know we're going to get into the. 1848 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 1: Show if you have something to, say chime right. In 1849 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: if you disagree with SOMETHING i want to. 1850 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 5: Hear ESPECIALLY i WAS i was going to suggest if 1851 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 5: you could to get into an argument with, me that 1852 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 5: would be part of the. Show. 1853 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah we talked To chism after practice today and Uh 1854 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 3: Dan roach of course because It's. Dan roach Asked chism if, he, 1855 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,919 Speaker 3: uh you, know the smile is just permanently On chism's, 1856 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 3: face to which he, said, yes it is Because i'm 1857 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 3: playing in THE. Nfl AND i thought that was kind of. 1858 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 3: Cool you, know, rookie this FIRST nfl training camp and, 1859 01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:01,559 Speaker 3: uh you, know obviously he's compete for a roster spot 1860 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 3: and he knows. That but at the end of the, 1861 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,560 Speaker 3: day like it is pretty freaking cool like that he 1862 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 3: gets to be in THEE i. 1863 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,240 Speaker 4: Think that's a refreshing perspective in. 1864 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 3: All, yeah. 1865 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned after, Practice Drake may had a press conference 1866 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: which we just showed. Here what did you think about 1867 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 1: what he had to say today because you were, There. 1868 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 4: YES i. 1869 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,640 Speaker 3: WAS i thought that it was. Interesting WHAT i look 1870 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 3: about his perspective is that he always says that he 1871 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,879 Speaker 3: kind of gives the iverson like we're talking about practice 1872 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,240 Speaker 3: and like his real litmus tester the, games the joint. 1873 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 3: Practices he mentioned the next couple of, weeks you, know 1874 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 3: he said that he likes to think that they're headed 1875 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 3: in the right, direction but until they get into games 1876 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 3: like scenarios where they're joint, practices preseason, whatever you really 1877 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,160 Speaker 3: don't know one hundred if you're going in the right 1878 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 3: direction until you hit that. Part SO i thought that 1879 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 3: was like, good sort of you, know we ride the 1880 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,680 Speaker 3: roller coaster of good, day bad, day good, day bad, 1881 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 3: day and to, him it's kind of just, like, well 1882 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 3: we're hoping we're in the right, direction like we feel 1883 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 3: good about where we, are but we'll. See and then 1884 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 3: he was asked a couple of questions about running and 1885 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 3: like how they're managing that and how they're scheming, that and, 1886 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 3: he you, know said that he agreed with sort of 1887 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 3: the premise that it's on him to keep himself healthy 1888 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 3: and to keep himself in. Games but he also said 1889 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 3: he's sixty, five two hundred and thirty, pounds and when 1890 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,559 Speaker 3: he's by the goal, line if he sees an opening 1891 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 3: and it's third down and he's ready to run it. 1892 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 5: In the only one that gets a skied by, That, 1893 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 5: yes you. Are i'm not suggesting we never run. Him 1894 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 5: i'm not doing that part of. It BUT i don't 1895 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 5: like when he talks about how big he is and 1896 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 5: when he gets the other goal line he's looking to 1897 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 5: plow guys. 1898 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,679 Speaker 3: OVER i don't know if he necessarily meant plow guys. 1899 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 3: OVER i think he just, meant if it opens up 1900 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 3: and the opportunity presents, itself he ain't. Afraid, well if 1901 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 3: it opens, up. 1902 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,760 Speaker 5: You don't need to be two hundred and thirty five, 1903 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 5: pounds you know What i'm, saying run in which he 1904 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 5: DID i think once last. 1905 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 3: Year, yes it's in the, preseason, okay but, YEAH I 1906 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,080 Speaker 3: i like those. Answers paul. Doesn't that's. 1907 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,080 Speaker 4: OKAY i just want to keep them. Healthy is that 1908 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 4: asking too? 1909 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 3: MUCH i want to win football? GAMES i do. Too 1910 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 3: he has to risk it for the biscuit a little. 1911 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 4: Bit then when they get to the point where. 1912 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 5: They're playing in really important games and it's make or 1913 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,160 Speaker 5: break by all, means lower the shoulder and do what 1914 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 5: you need to do to get the. Win but you, 1915 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 5: know dancing down the sideline in the first quarter of 1916 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 5: a game against The chargers when you're like two and 1917 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 5: twelve is not one of those. 1918 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 3: Times to, me fair, enough that's. FAIR i don't think he. 1919 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 3: Was he was talking, about, like you, know we're down 1920 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 3: inside the. Red, yeah fourth and. 1921 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 4: Goal gotta have it some game by all, means you, 1922 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 4: know third and goal in the second. Quarter it's just 1923 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,760 Speaker 4: NOT i got to have it play to me LIKE i. 1924 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 4: DON'T i want to make. SURE i want to make 1925 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,840 Speaker 4: sure we preserve, him even Though I'm i'm A Joshua allen, 1926 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,600 Speaker 4: fan AND i still just when he does some Of 1927 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,720 Speaker 4: you're like you're, Crazy like don't blower your. SHOULDER i 1928 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 4: think he's. 1929 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,600 Speaker 5: Crazy but this whole season would end if one of 1930 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:07,679 Speaker 5: those hits goes the wrong. 1931 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 1: Way if five five past five hundred is the. Hotline 1932 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:15,880 Speaker 1: let's go To jared In. California what's, Up, Jared, jared what's? 1933 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 3: Up? 1934 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 4: Guys he went to Join Hey. 1935 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 2: Jared LAST i went to the first week of training. 1936 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 2: Camp incredible. EXPERIENCE i loved. It it really looked like 1937 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 2: the new coaching staff had of graph and everything was 1938 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 2: running pretty. Efficient my card question, is how would you 1939 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 2: contrast this training tamp with the new regime compared to old? 1940 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 2: Regimes And i'm taking off the. 1941 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 1: Air, okay, Thanks. JARED i mean old regime meaning last. 1942 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:48,360 Speaker 1: YEAR i mean it's it's it's very. SIMILAR i mean 1943 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 1: in terms of how it's. Organized it's the. Same you, 1944 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 1: know you have you have your sessions and you break 1945 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 1: it up and you go on to, team you go 1946 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 1: to seven on seven eleven. Eleven you, know all that's the, 1947 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: same just, say the competitive LEVEL i think is a 1948 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 1: little bit. BETTER i THINK i THINK i can see more, competition. 1949 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 1: Certainly And, evan you mentioned this this. Morning you were 1950 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 1: on one Of paul's shows this, morning and you had 1951 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 1: an excellent hit. Today by the, way you mentioned you mentioned. 1952 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 1: It you mentioned it today that this, year you, know one, 1953 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,920 Speaker 1: day the offense is, better one day the defense is. 1954 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Better last, year offense was rarely winning the. Day you, 1955 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 1: know it's a little bit more even this year in 1956 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:42,040 Speaker 1: terms of who's winning even within a certain. PRACTICE i 1957 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 1: think that that's probably a better. 1958 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,840 Speaker 4: Thing that has nothing to do with the structure Of. 1959 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 5: No, no, no it. 1960 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 1: Doesn't it. 1961 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,639 Speaker 4: Doesn't BUT i have a Couple. 1962 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,280 Speaker 6: Paul AND i always joked and it became almost a 1963 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 6: joke with how much time they spent in the red 1964 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 6: zone With Bill, belichick AND i, mean it was, like you, 1965 01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:59,880 Speaker 6: KNOW i don't remember last year if it was the 1966 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,560 Speaker 6: BUT i specially remember With bill And. Mack it was 1967 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 6: like every day you were in the red zone every, 1968 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,880 Speaker 6: day and they did periods over the last few days 1969 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 6: in the red. Zone but it's obvious to me the 1970 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 6: progression of how they're stacking this all. Together you, know 1971 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 6: it's all, right first we're going to be high red, 1972 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,720 Speaker 6: zone that we're gonna be with a low red zone 1973 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 6: now today we're going to be in the middle of the. 1974 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 6: Field now we're going to add in third. Downs it 1975 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 6: just it's easier to decipher exactly how they're installing everything to, 1976 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,400 Speaker 6: me whereas With bill was like every like they're in 1977 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,200 Speaker 6: the red zone, Again like it would seem like every 1978 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,480 Speaker 6: day they were stressing. 1979 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 1: That, brady you knew you were going to be in 1980 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the red. 1981 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 5: Zone last, YEAR i would say one of the big, 1982 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 5: DIFFERENCES i felt like it took a long time to 1983 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 5: get into practice on a routine. BASIS i felt like 1984 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,560 Speaker 5: the walm up period was like forty five, Minutes AND 1985 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 5: i think they're much quicker into practice what they actually 1986 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,719 Speaker 5: do in practice for all Three, Belichick, mayo And, VERABLE 1987 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:49,120 Speaker 5: i agree With. 1988 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 4: FRED i think they're very. 1989 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 5: SIMILAR i think the end of The belichick regime kind 1990 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,320 Speaker 5: of had a little bit less of this competition stuff 1991 01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 5: that you're talking, about AND i think people criticize that 1992 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 5: that seem to be a little bit, Easier BUT i 1993 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,640 Speaker 5: didn't think that last year With mayo had to be. 1994 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 1: The first five minutes of the practice was dealing With Matt. 1995 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,719 Speaker 1: Judon that was like baked into the into the. Rundown 1996 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 1: this is period, one period, one deal With now we. 1997 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 4: Can be like my. Shows one other thing, too is 1998 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 4: just like we haven't seen the. Host the host hasn't come. 1999 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,200 Speaker 5: Out for the you know when they get all the 2000 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,519 Speaker 5: agree With the progression of practice is generally very. Similar 2001 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,759 Speaker 5: it's Like fred, said it's you, know individual it's position, 2002 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 5: drills it's seven on, seven it's team periods and roughly 2003 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 5: the same. 2004 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 4: Amount Now mike is. 2005 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,920 Speaker 5: Right belichick used to always start with the red, zone 2006 01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 5: And mike has sort of worked his way to the red. 2007 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 5: Zone AND i think they're probably getting the same amount 2008 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,479 Speaker 5: of reps in the red. Zone it's just going to 2009 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 5: come in different times of. 2010 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 3: Practice, yeah like we're talking about like that's like organizing. 2011 01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 3: Practice WHAT i was talking about on the radio this 2012 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,639 Speaker 3: morning was like some DAYS i come out of practice 2013 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 3: And i'm, LIKE i don't really know who. 2014 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 4: Won like it was kind of like this was like 2015 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 4: it was pretty to, me is, different AND i agree with. 2016 01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 5: You last year there was one or two days where we're, like, 2017 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,479 Speaker 5: oh the offense actually punched back. Today, yeah but most 2018 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,720 Speaker 5: days it was the defense just, dominating, right and then you, 2019 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 5: know guys are right about back and. 2020 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 4: Forth this year WHEN. 2021 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 3: I said this morning was like it was always is 2022 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 3: the defense actually that? Good or is the offense actually this? 2023 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,519 Speaker 3: Bad and how do we judge the defense against this? 2024 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 3: Offense and like you had that whole mind game that 2025 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 3: you were sort of playing with yourself of how what 2026 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 3: does all this really? Mean whereas this, YEAR i feel 2027 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 3: like it is more of like an iron sharpening iron 2028 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,800 Speaker 3: type of situation hopefully at. Least but in terms of 2029 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 3: the structure, PRACTICE i just have noticed different, Drills like 2030 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 3: there's there's different drills for, sure the different stretch different 2031 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 3: they've been, doing like different drills with the offensive and 2032 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 3: defensive lines where they're like doing these like grappling drills 2033 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,400 Speaker 3: where they're not actually moving but they just are kind 2034 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,800 Speaker 3: of hand fighting with each other and you know that 2035 01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 3: sort of. Thing and THEN i just call it in my, 2036 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 3: day we call it inside six where it's just like 2037 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 3: six blockers against like THE d line and the linebacker 2038 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,560 Speaker 3: level and there's no secondary and there's no. Receivers and 2039 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,200 Speaker 3: they've been doing a lot of. That but it's like 2040 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 3: one half of the line and it's like one half 2041 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,720 Speaker 3: of the defense and then like the other half on 2042 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,800 Speaker 3: the Other and they actually have mixed in like run and, 2043 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 3: pass WHICH i think is really. Interesting like and usually 2044 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,439 Speaker 3: withinside sex it's all. Run it's just a run. Period 2045 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,880 Speaker 3: but in this, day like mix in the pass every 2046 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 3: once in a while just to throw it, off you, know. 2047 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,640 Speaker 4: Just to Get jay And polk a. Touch there's no. 2048 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 3: Receivers he walked in right behind us off the. 2049 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 4: Field where was? That then there's no. 2050 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Receiver the other THING i would. Say the other THING 2051 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,360 Speaker 1: i would SAY i would notice Is i'm just you, 2052 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,639 Speaker 1: know more than, one more than one player has, inferred 2053 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,640 Speaker 1: if not out and outset it that they see a 2054 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,240 Speaker 1: noticeable difference in the coaching players that were here. 2055 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,200 Speaker 3: Last corrections and things like. That, YEAH i think, that you, 2056 01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,880 Speaker 3: Know i'm sure that's. Happening you can see that With rabel, 2057 01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,559 Speaker 3: though like with some of the drill that they're doing 2058 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,439 Speaker 3: on the on the line of, scrimmage like that's that's 2059 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,960 Speaker 3: his Flot like you can tell that that's his, stamp, 2060 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 3: Right like he wants to be a physical football. Team 2061 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,680 Speaker 3: he wants to be fundamentally sound up. Front they were 2062 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,120 Speaker 3: so sloppy up front the last couple of, years AND 2063 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 3: i JUST i don't see, that, like, yeah guys get. 2064 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,560 Speaker 3: Beat guys are gonna get, beat you, know over the 2065 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 3: course of multiple, practices but you just don't see a 2066 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 3: lot of like the fundamentals just totally embrace. 2067 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,000 Speaker 1: Many stops and. Stars. 2068 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah it's interesting BECAUSE i feel Like bill And 2069 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 6: mike both have similar philosophies of want and create a tough, 2070 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,679 Speaker 6: team but they kind of go about it different. Ways 2071 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,640 Speaker 6: it's you, know different, personnel different schemes and even just you, 2072 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,640 Speaker 6: KNOW i mean both hopping into drills a little, Bit 2073 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 6: mike more Than, bill but you, know just more than 2074 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 6: one way to skin a. Cat and, clearly to, Me, 2075 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 6: mike we're able putting his stamp all over this, team 2076 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 6: and that's that's a really good. 2077 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 4: THING i think they'll reflect his. 2078 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 1: Toughness H Lindon georgia writes In she says she had 2079 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 1: to write in even THOUGH i have no true football comments, 2080 01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 1: today thanks for having a very special yes. Today walk 2081 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,679 Speaker 1: through today was, enjoyable especially seeing the returning team members 2082 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,720 Speaker 1: Of hollands And. Davis great analysis of all Things patriots as, 2083 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,160 Speaker 1: usual so she just wanted to. 2084 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 6: Like where's your, crew where's all your where's Like shutters 2085 01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,360 Speaker 6: and And tom and all these guys that you know 2086 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 6: support you and you should be calling in and, NO 2087 01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 6: i guess. 2088 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,640 Speaker 4: Not, Well claire's been very nice because you, know. 2089 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,160 Speaker 6: BEFORE i worked, HERE i wrote a blog Called Past 2090 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 6: propaganda and it just kind of went, dead and her 2091 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 6: And tom have you, know continued to keep it alive 2092 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 6: and put some posts. 2093 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,160 Speaker 4: Up SO i appreciate that it lives, on but he lives. 2094 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:36,600 Speaker 1: On and you gave them the keys to the. 2095 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:37,640 Speaker 3: CASTLE i gave him the keys of the. 2096 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,439 Speaker 6: CASTLE i just you, know keep it. Running and they 2097 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,200 Speaker 6: put up all the posts and. Everything ALTHOUGH i did 2098 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 6: post one of our one. 2099 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 4: Of our preview videos on. 2100 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,040 Speaker 6: THERE i was, like, HEY i was just making sure 2101 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:46,559 Speaker 6: the site was all run, Around, like, HEY i Think 2102 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,680 Speaker 6: i'll put up our our preview, camp you, know our 2103 01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:49,640 Speaker 6: training camp preview that we. 2104 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,800 Speaker 1: Did so have you started the? 2105 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:58,439 Speaker 6: BEST a good, question, FRIEND i MEAN i noticed two 2106 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 6: days ago was the first Time brable was in his 2107 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 6: standard blue vest with the red. 2108 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,760 Speaker 4: Sleeves he had just a windbreaker. On so maybe like 2109 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,680 Speaker 4: me WHEN i wore pants yesterday and everyone had a 2110 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,040 Speaker 4: comment for. Me maybe it was washed. ODAY i, mean, 2111 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,080 Speaker 4: now maybe that's why you were so ungodly. 2112 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,400 Speaker 3: HIGH i mean that was a crazy move. 2113 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 4: As soon as you watch, it are mine? Today how 2114 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,400 Speaker 4: and THEN i wore long sleeves. TODAY i thought you 2115 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 4: didn't mind being well. TODAY i could see the long 2116 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,600 Speaker 4: sleeves because it's like. Cold it's not cool to. 2117 01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:30,479 Speaker 1: Hear curtis And Saint louis writes in with the health 2118 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,560 Speaker 1: questions at the outside cornerback, position would you like to 2119 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 1: see The patriots add some? Depth call it a plan 2120 01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 1: or managing him or. Whatever the fact that we've only 2121 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 1: Seen davis one day this offseason training, camp on top 2122 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 1: of That gonzo's hamstring, SITUATION i have some. CONCERNS i 2123 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,000 Speaker 1: would love to see them bringing a guy Like gilmour 2124 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,439 Speaker 1: or maybe A. Sante samuel just wanted your. 2125 01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,400 Speaker 4: Thoughts he's talking About junior. 2126 01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 1: There. Yeah, Second, evan it's your. Call from everything you've 2127 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 1: seen to this, point where would you Put Jared wilson 2128 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 1: on THIS o line left? 2129 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 4: Guard you? 2130 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,599 Speaker 3: Would, Yeah I've i've had reservations about him playing center 2131 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,280 Speaker 3: as a rookie for a. WHILE i JUST i. 2132 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,719 Speaker 5: Would need to know more information about his mental abilities 2133 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,280 Speaker 5: BECAUSE i have the same reservations That evan's talking. About 2134 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,040 Speaker 5: but if they were okay with that part of, IT 2135 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,200 Speaker 5: i would rather have him at center because. 2136 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 3: It's not just but it's like not just the impact 2137 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,400 Speaker 3: that he, has it's across the, board its impact it 2138 01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,120 Speaker 3: has on. Him it is the impact it has On, 2139 01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,840 Speaker 3: drake like in the offense as a, whole you, know 2140 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,360 Speaker 3: and LIKE i A drake at his press conference today 2141 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,759 Speaker 3: about the pre snap stuff because he's he's in control, 2142 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,719 Speaker 3: now like The josh McDaniels that runs through the, quarterback 2143 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 3: but the center still has input and the center still 2144 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,800 Speaker 3: makes calls certain, calls you, know, uh four, down three, 2145 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:47,960 Speaker 3: down like he calls out the. Front how is it? 2146 01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:48,519 Speaker 1: Odd is it? 2147 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,840 Speaker 3: Even? Uh and Then drake takes that information and then 2148 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,000 Speaker 3: he sets the mic and YadA, YadA yo down. 2149 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,040 Speaker 6: CORRECT i totally hear What paul sand though in a 2150 01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,280 Speaker 6: perfect more important, position perfect, world him And drake and 2151 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 6: we just pulled the band aid off and let them 2152 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:04,720 Speaker 6: take some lumps. Together but then you have that. 2153 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 4: Stabilized and this is the DUDE i totally. 2154 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 5: Get AND i Get evans's point of. View if he's 2155 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 5: not ready for, THAT i don't WANT i don't want 2156 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,960 Speaker 5: to put you, like what if his game falls apart 2157 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 5: right right and now you're you, know you're potentially damaging him, 2158 01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 5: too like by playing him too quickly if he's not 2159 01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,800 Speaker 5: ready for the mental side of, it which you know 2160 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 5: is a mild concerned With Will campbell with the stuff 2161 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 5: that we talked about before the break about what was 2162 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:29,840 Speaker 5: it a mental? Thing is that why he's over? 2163 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,120 Speaker 4: Setting you? 2164 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,560 Speaker 5: Know is he constantly worrying about you, know or's just 2165 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,679 Speaker 5: kind of Habit and it's Not he's not worried about 2166 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:38,640 Speaker 5: being fast, enough because by all, accounts he's one of 2167 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,519 Speaker 5: the most athletic left tackles that's come out of the 2168 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 5: draft in a. 2169 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 3: WHILE i think it's like it's almost all of play 2170 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,879 Speaker 3: sports like a feel, Thing like you just feel yourself 2171 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 3: losing the edge right like and you just can't help, 2172 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,200 Speaker 3: it and you just. Can, Guy it's like one of 2173 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 3: those things where like you, know you just kind of 2174 01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,840 Speaker 3: like it's not even like you're purposely trying to do. 2175 01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,240 Speaker 3: It it's just like it comes Over you're, like, oh, 2176 01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,160 Speaker 3: oh he's likechallenge me out, here and then all of a, sudden, 2177 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 3: YEAH i. 2178 01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: Don't, know like we're all you, know Pseudo Dante scarneki 2179 01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 1: is talking about, this but. 2180 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:08,920 Speaker 3: CORRECT i. 2181 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: Like SOMETIMES i look at it and engage, quicker, like 2182 01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:16,240 Speaker 1: don't back up so? 2183 01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 3: Deep, WELL i think that's what he's, doing, though is 2184 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,040 Speaker 3: he's trying to come out and get his hands. 2185 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 1: OFF i don't not on. PASS i don't see. THAT 2186 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 1: i see him on back, pedaling, backpedaling and the first 2187 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,040 Speaker 1: point of contact is like three yards. 2188 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,479 Speaker 3: Deep when he gets bet on the ins like yesterday 2189 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,720 Speaker 3: Against swinson and one on ones he tried to come 2190 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,920 Speaker 3: out and two hand punch him and he got over 2191 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 3: extended And swinston. 2192 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 1: JUST i keep working on, That, YEAH i keep working on. 2193 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 3: That that's that's where he's going to have to strike that. 2194 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 1: Balance, Ye mars In connecticut on the. Hotline what's, Up? 2195 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,479 Speaker 10: Mark, hey guys were doing? 2196 01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:51,280 Speaker 7: TODAY i. 2197 01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:56,040 Speaker 1: Got a good one for. 2198 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 7: YOU i don't believe That bulk And baker have A 2199 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:04,560 Speaker 7: john making the. Roster so what my plan, is is 2200 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 7: there any trade? Possibility is there any value in these two? 2201 01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:12,599 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i think you package them up for a first. Two, 2202 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 1: No i'm only Kidd i'm only Kidding. Mark, NO i 2203 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 1: don't think there is much trade value there, NO i didn't. 2204 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,000 Speaker 7: Think so when are you guys going to be at 2205 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,800 Speaker 7: the in uh in the stadium practice to, Morning. 2206 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 1: We'll be there, yeah five twelve, Okay, mark. 2207 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:32,720 Speaker 4: Thanks i'm not going around the, stands not a meet And. 2208 01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Greek oh, yes you don't go around the. 2209 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 4: RIM i hide in the press boxing right as much 2210 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:41,960 Speaker 4: AS i. Can, well practice is going, on SO i 2211 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:42,720 Speaker 4: can go home when it's. 2212 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Over afterwards you go down the field that when people 2213 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,599 Speaker 1: what's going on and what do you do when you're? 2214 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:53,480 Speaker 3: Done make when you're Doing no one gets more shoutouts 2215 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 3: Than deuce at training, CAMP. 2216 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,840 Speaker 4: I will tell, you is a, legitimate legitimate. 2217 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,519 Speaker 3: Celebrity when we did the pre practice, thing went to, Salt. 2218 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for A t. 2219 01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,759 Speaker 5: SHIRT i always feel that's very honored that WHEN i wander, 2220 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,880 Speaker 5: around people just give me the cat calls And i'm, 2221 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,280 Speaker 5: like you, know people know, me except for When i'm 2222 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,680 Speaker 5: walking back from all access during training camp With Mike, 2223 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,240 Speaker 5: greece THEN i might as well not even be, there 2224 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,840 Speaker 5: my GRE i might as well not even be. 2225 01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,920 Speaker 4: There it's, like, oh That's mike and that other guy 2226 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 4: in his own with single person on the planet. 2227 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,720 Speaker 6: Knows, yeah, yeah that's they should should you know what's 2228 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,160 Speaker 6: gonna fun tomorrow And paul is figuring out who's on 2229 01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:37,639 Speaker 6: the blue team and who's on the white. 2230 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:38,840 Speaker 4: Team, OH i can't wait for the. 2231 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,360 Speaker 3: Tweets it sounds, like you, Know drake said it today 2232 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,479 Speaker 3: in his press, conference like they're. Expecting he, said we're 2233 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 3: going to split the teams up and we're going to. 2234 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:52,040 Speaker 5: Scrimmage and basically what they've, done and That bill used 2235 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,639 Speaker 5: to you, know you'd have to identify which offensive guys 2236 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:55,640 Speaker 5: are wearing, blue. 2237 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 3: Right but they but he made it Build it wasn't, 2238 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 3: Competitive LIKE i don't think it's. Gonaive wasn't. Competitive they're 2239 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 3: saying it's a. 2240 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,479 Speaker 6: Scrimmage, well but, seriously, though isn't there just a small 2241 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 6: part of your brain that thinks Like frable's just crazy 2242 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:11,799 Speaker 6: enough to have some overly physical. 2243 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,679 Speaker 4: Practices, well it's a small. 2244 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,600 Speaker 5: Problem i'll tell you guys THAT i didn't see this 2245 01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,400 Speaker 5: coming Because bill called it. 2246 01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 4: A scrimmage every. Year, no he didn't that market is 2247 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 4: going to say scrimmage every. Year it was never. COMPETITIVE 2248 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 4: i don't expect it to be AND i don't expect 2249 01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,000 Speaker 4: to be much different than what we've. Seen why is, 2250 01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 4: that BECAUSE i just don't think it makes a lot of, 2251 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,800 Speaker 4: sense especially after three padded days, earlier in that continuation 2252 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:41,280 Speaker 4: of what you've. 2253 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,840 Speaker 1: Seen, YEAH i would say if if this is overly, 2254 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,920 Speaker 1: physical it would be counter to what he's been doing 2255 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,840 Speaker 1: and what players say he's been. Doing like he is 2256 01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,800 Speaker 1: cognizant of our health right, Now he's not going to 2257 01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,599 Speaker 1: beat us up this. Early but at some point you've 2258 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,920 Speaker 1: got to get ready for tackle, football you. Know but 2259 01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,720 Speaker 1: it's never been during this in stadium that they do. 2260 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,840 Speaker 5: That so and if they're if there are, guys you, 2261 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,920 Speaker 5: know like there are guys catching passes across the middle 2262 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,240 Speaker 5: and safeties are lower in the, boom Then i'll, say. 2263 01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 4: Hey bill never did. That that's knocking guys. 2264 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 5: OUT i don't think they'll be. TACKLING i don't think 2265 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,439 Speaker 5: they'll Be they'll be hitting on the line like we've. 2266 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,640 Speaker 1: Seen, YEAH i don't think we want to see that right. 2267 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 1: Now you don't want to see open. Field we. 2268 01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,360 Speaker 3: Did we did see that last year with had them 2269 01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,479 Speaker 3: tackling to the ground in, practice and it was like 2270 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:25,439 Speaker 3: it was eye. 2271 01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:26,479 Speaker 4: Opening, yeah it. 2272 01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,880 Speaker 3: Was that's a good way to describe. It, YEAH i. 2273 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,840 Speaker 5: Was And bill has had full padded practices and, that 2274 01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,519 Speaker 5: and he's had practices when they're in the. 2275 01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:34,800 Speaker 4: Shell, well, yeah the. 2276 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,559 Speaker 1: Shells, yeah even with the full padded they. 2277 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,320 Speaker 4: Don't, NOW i still think it's all just for, you 2278 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,839 Speaker 4: the only. One the pomp and circumstance of the, game. 2279 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,280 Speaker 5: And you, know this is where we go and then 2280 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 5: this is how It, WELL i think that's a big 2281 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 5: part of what they do is the whole game. Operation you, 2282 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 5: know you want to get a play clock, going you 2283 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 5: want to have you, know defensive. 2284 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,800 Speaker 4: Stuff them coming from the. Sideline you don't want to 2285 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 4: make sure that the right personnel groups on that is it. 2286 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:01,439 Speaker 4: Is it's like a big part of. 2287 01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:03,160 Speaker 3: IT i know it sounds silly because these guys are 2288 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 3: professional football, players but you, know coming from the sideline 2289 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,439 Speaker 3: and the signals in the in the play calls coming 2290 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,599 Speaker 3: from the sideline on the headset like that is different 2291 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:11,559 Speaker 3: than what it is at. 2292 01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,400 Speaker 5: Practice so it would be another one who's calling the 2293 01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 5: plays for the blue. Team McDaniels is calling the offense 2294 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:27,640 Speaker 5: for the white, Team todd Down Thomas, brown but Experienceator. 2295 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:30,200 Speaker 1: David And bethlehem writs and please comment On Todd downing 2296 01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,560 Speaker 1: being an improvement Over tyler Hughes, In Taekwan, underwood, McDaniels 2297 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,120 Speaker 1: And downing seem a potent. Combo first blush ten and 2298 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 1: seven in. 2299 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,800 Speaker 6: Playoffs, well he's just an experienced coach who's been an 2300 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 6: offensive coordinator. Before AND i mean that was TYLERHES i think. First, 2301 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,559 Speaker 6: yeah time he had AN nfl. Receiver room came from 2302 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 6: college a brief time, Here so it's JUST i want 2303 01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 6: to see what it looks like BEFORE i just deemed it. 2304 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:54,800 Speaker 6: Better i'm crazy like. 2305 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,679 Speaker 3: THAT i STILL i still wish that they had hired 2306 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 3: a like skill, coach like a wide, receiver former wide, 2307 01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 3: receiver like A Wes welker type or something like, that 2308 01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 3: that is a guy that played the position that LIKE 2309 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 3: i Think Todd downing conceptually can teach and can coach 2310 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,640 Speaker 3: the offense like this is your route, depth this is your, 2311 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,680 Speaker 3: release this is where you're supposed to. Be this is 2312 01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,080 Speaker 3: the Concept like you, know this is what this guy's 2313 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 3: doing next to. You but like who's who's Taking Kyle 2314 01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 3: williams to the side and like coaching him up on 2315 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 3: the top of the route or his release or you, 2316 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,720 Speaker 3: know something like like those real like details like the 2317 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,519 Speaker 3: minutia of playing the. Position you, Know Todd downing has 2318 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,040 Speaker 3: also never done it before at that's. Position so at 2319 01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:38,599 Speaker 3: the risk. 2320 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 22: Of Rolling paul, Up i'm going to Say i'm going 2321 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:40,840 Speaker 22: with the ten and seven. 2322 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 1: Though, OKAY i think there's a lot of. 2323 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 5: People a lot of people will tell you that's. Low 2324 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,400 Speaker 5: i've heard eleven twelve. Wins i've heard. 2325 01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 3: Only one person said twelve. 2326 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 4: WINS i just hate those, Predictions. 2327 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,200 Speaker 1: Steven ireland writes In Great, camp so far they've given 2328 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,120 Speaker 1: me optimism of the coming, season without the over the 2329 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,280 Speaker 1: top we're going to the Super bowl feeling that other 2330 01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,639 Speaker 1: shows will give you and Not paul. SHOWS i don't, 2331 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,040 Speaker 1: sup But i'm my massive fan of. 2332 01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,680 Speaker 4: PAULS i have not heard any Super Bowl just you 2333 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,160 Speaker 4: wait a question for. 2334 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,800 Speaker 1: Today after seeing Mac hollins go right into the top 2335 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,519 Speaker 1: receiver group, today is there any feeling that he is 2336 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,160 Speaker 1: there to kind of Mentor booty and the other young 2337 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,320 Speaker 1: guys mainly in a watch and learned kind of way 2338 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,880 Speaker 1: for the, season and also keep what was a messy 2339 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,679 Speaker 1: group last year working with a high professional standard through each. 2340 01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,800 Speaker 1: Week and then that also Gives diggs more of a 2341 01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,920 Speaker 1: chance to rehab and be the top receiver without having 2342 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,920 Speaker 1: to worry about the. OTHERS i don't Think hollins or 2343 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,840 Speaker 1: Boot digs are worried about the. 2344 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,479 Speaker 3: OTHERS i think that's exactly Why hollins is. Here is 2345 01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:47,040 Speaker 3: what the emailers said to mentor to. Babysit. Yeah, REALLY 2346 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,280 Speaker 3: i think he's been known as a as a guy 2347 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 3: that it's a pretty good locker room, guy good. 2348 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,840 Speaker 1: Character oh okay, that but he's not out there coaching 2349 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:55,800 Speaker 1: other players. 2350 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,640 Speaker 3: Coaching, no BUT i think that he's there to and 2351 01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 3: hold for. 2352 01:43:58,240 --> 01:43:59,479 Speaker 4: Sure, no that's setting. 2353 01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 6: EXAMPLE i would say that's the biggest thing for me 2354 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,760 Speaker 6: With diggs is just watch and, learn, guys this is 2355 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,000 Speaker 6: what this is what it's supposed to look. 2356 01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,439 Speaker 5: Like and evidently that's been a positive process because all 2357 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 5: the other receivers are talking about. 2358 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,000 Speaker 4: How good he's been to. 2359 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,680 Speaker 6: THEM i just point out to like almost every Day 2360 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,840 Speaker 6: digs goes in signs. Too SO i KNOW i was 2361 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 6: hard on him when he was a member of The 2362 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,720 Speaker 6: bills and kicking our, butt but, like, YEAH i love 2363 01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 6: WHAT i love What i've seen on the field off 2364 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,320 Speaker 6: the field so. Far you, know we had a little 2365 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,559 Speaker 6: hicke up earlier this, year but otherwise that's behind him 2366 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 6: and they all come. 2367 01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,280 Speaker 4: Around so LATER i, know, well just. 2368 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,120 Speaker 3: Like a little story about mc. Collins Uh soft And 2369 01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,680 Speaker 3: chisholm was talking after. PRACTICE i mentioned that and uh 2370 01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,479 Speaker 3: he said that mac collins asked him for a ride 2371 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,560 Speaker 3: home one, day WHICH i think is. Hilarious like he 2372 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,519 Speaker 3: doesn't have cover shoes so he didn't, walk so so 2373 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,840 Speaker 3: he asked mccollins Asked chisholm for a ride, home And 2374 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,800 Speaker 3: Fton chishm said, sure of, course they're driving home and 2375 01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,519 Speaker 3: mc collins, said, OH i Like i'm. Going you. Know 2376 01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,040 Speaker 3: chisten said what you were what are you? Doing what 2377 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,160 Speaker 3: are you doing after? This and mac collins, said, Oh 2378 01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,719 Speaker 3: i'm going and going to study the playbook and ft chism, 2379 01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,160 Speaker 3: SECOND i come with, you and he, said, yeah sure 2380 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:05,000 Speaker 3: we can do it. Together and then so now after 2381 01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 3: every day mccollins And Efton chisholm are watching film, together 2382 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,679 Speaker 3: studying the, playbook preparing for the next day, together doing 2383 01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,559 Speaker 3: all these types of. THINGS i think that's exactly why 2384 01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,040 Speaker 3: mac collins is, here is to do that kind of 2385 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 3: stuff and play special teams and run. 2386 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 4: Block. 2387 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he needs to get on the, field jump. 2388 01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:25,439 Speaker 4: Balls he is on the. 2389 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:29,680 Speaker 20: Field now he's back but didn't digcite sorry on his 2390 01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,880 Speaker 20: FIRST i think it was his very first. Presser the 2391 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,040 Speaker 20: tone of what he was, saying BECAUSE i can't remember 2392 01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,200 Speaker 20: it word for, word was that he's setting an example 2393 01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,120 Speaker 20: sort of thing for the younger guys to come. 2394 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 22: IN i, MEAN i know it was like months and months. 2395 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,080 Speaker 4: Ago, now well he's playing like it for. 2396 01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,120 Speaker 6: SURE i, mean everything you've seen of, him AND i 2397 01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,559 Speaker 6: just to me at the bottom line is watch him 2398 01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:53,200 Speaker 6: play like, that jumps, out watching him run, routes catch the, ball. 2399 01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,320 Speaker 4: Turn it up, field show a little. Speed and you're 2400 01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:57,920 Speaker 4: telling me this guy is still. Recovery do you. 2401 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,000 Speaker 1: Think it's kept him from being you, know and every 2402 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 1: redown Receiver. 2403 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,599 Speaker 4: Matt, Collins, yeah oh. Uh was he with The raiders, 2404 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,120 Speaker 4: THOUGH i MEAN i. 2405 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,240 Speaker 6: DON'T i mean when we saw The, raiders it was those. 2406 01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,360 Speaker 6: Three it was him And adams And Hunter renfro AND 2407 01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,320 Speaker 6: i really was impressed with. Him AND i remember looking 2408 01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,479 Speaker 6: on my phone and being, like how's this guy kind 2409 01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:16,800 Speaker 6: of bumped around because he's got good. 2410 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:18,400 Speaker 4: Size he's tearing The patriots up right? 2411 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:19,080 Speaker 3: Now you? 2412 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:20,720 Speaker 5: Know it was it just he stood out to, Me 2413 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,640 Speaker 5: AM i saying with him THAT i can't figure, out 2414 01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 5: AND i don't know how good he is, technically you, 2415 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:31,439 Speaker 5: know quote unquote how. Good but everybody talks About Matt 2416 01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 5: collins the Way evan, described you, know how good he's 2417 01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,360 Speaker 5: been to teammates and positive presence in the locker. 2418 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 4: Room yet he's been on a million. Teams yeah, right 2419 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,000 Speaker 4: and that's usually a red flight for there's a lot 2420 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,439 Speaker 4: of like one year stops because he's a. 2421 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 3: Nomad you can't you can't cage mccollins. 2422 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,639 Speaker 5: Like this is like not a LIKE i think he's 2423 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,519 Speaker 5: overrated as a leader or as a. TEAMMATE i don't 2424 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,560 Speaker 5: think that at. All i'm wondering why a guy with 2425 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,840 Speaker 5: that reputation has been on five. 2426 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,080 Speaker 3: Teams, yeah so he played a ninety three percent of 2427 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,600 Speaker 3: the snaps With, vegas With josh And. 2428 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,560 Speaker 4: Vegas he wasn't every down player and. 2429 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 3: Things, yeah last year with The, bills it was sixty 2430 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,760 Speaker 3: six percent of the. Snaps well that's not that. 2431 01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 4: BAD i would have got. It so last year with 2432 01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,599 Speaker 4: The bill, down they also had absolutely no. Receivers, yeah, 2433 01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,920 Speaker 4: yeah they got rid Of diggs and started all. Over 2434 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:20,679 Speaker 4: so he probably had to mentor. 2435 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 5: People, yeah now they feel Like shakir is at a 2436 01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:24,800 Speaker 5: different level and they probably didn't. 2437 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:27,640 Speaker 4: Special you know what ELSE i wonder ev is he 2438 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 4: seems like special Team no, no. 2439 01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,240 Speaker 6: Uh he seems like the perfect guy to do what 2440 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,200 Speaker 6: we've been talking so much about THE x And josh 2441 01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:38,200 Speaker 6: at McDaniel's, offense where you're really just kind of running 2442 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,360 Speaker 6: goes or comebacks and there's not you, know when the 2443 01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,400 Speaker 6: ball's probably not going to you a. Lot and he 2444 01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,559 Speaker 6: seems to have that perfect personality to be that guy, who, 2445 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:47,040 Speaker 6: Yeah i'm happy to be the guy who takes the 2446 01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:48,880 Speaker 6: top off the defense and maybe makes a contest to 2447 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,599 Speaker 6: catch downfield or you, know occasionally gets behind the. Defense 2448 01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,960 Speaker 6: so maybe that's part of it, too is he's well 2449 01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,840 Speaker 6: equipped to kind of do What josh is gonna. 2450 01:47:55,840 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 3: Ask he's SACRIFICIAL x and, yeah SACRIFICIAL. X how was 2451 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,640 Speaker 3: how does he crack the end to you, know like 2452 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 3: he's a good run, blocker AND i think that's a 2453 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:09,519 Speaker 3: big part of his game as. Well you, know he's 2454 01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 3: the guy like at receiver that you can like use 2455 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,240 Speaker 3: as like a weapon in the run, Game like you 2456 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 3: can have him block you, know different body types and 2457 01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,599 Speaker 3: things like that that like you can move him around 2458 01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,960 Speaker 3: and take him from different angles and stuff that allow. 2459 01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:26,000 Speaker 4: WEAPONS i. 2460 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,360 Speaker 1: Heard the weapon in the run. 2461 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,719 Speaker 3: Game it's one dimensional. 2462 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,320 Speaker 6: WEAPON i JUST i think you add it all up 2463 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,320 Speaker 6: and you see why he's, here and we'll see if 2464 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,080 Speaker 6: he goes back to that. ROLE i think that's what 2465 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,040 Speaker 6: everybody's perked up for. Now is he going to Push 2466 01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,439 Speaker 6: booty for for significant playing time or is you, know 2467 01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,559 Speaker 6: we're going to be a spot, receiver which and special teams, 2468 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,320 Speaker 6: guy which is WHAT i think we thought he'd be 2469 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:49,760 Speaker 6: all off. 2470 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:51,880 Speaker 4: Season, okay. 2471 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 1: Let's see lots of, emails not a phone calls, Too 2472 01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,840 Speaker 1: so let's get to the phone. Calls what do we? 2473 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:01,599 Speaker 1: Who i'm looking at the line up? 2474 01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:03,240 Speaker 4: Here who's From Order? 2475 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,519 Speaker 1: Lost Johnny todd's In North? Carolina Hey, Todd Todd Tad 2476 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:08,599 Speaker 1: hey Get? 2477 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,880 Speaker 7: Thanks, okay. Thanks SO i think you guys came to 2478 01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,920 Speaker 7: a conclusion That may is going to be what drives 2479 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 7: this season and his progress and his. Maturity i'm still 2480 01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:26,560 Speaker 7: worried about the, line not so much the, tackles BUT 2481 01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 7: i really don't Like bridberry at the. CENTER i went 2482 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,960 Speaker 7: watching him with the film last, year and at times 2483 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:36,679 Speaker 7: he's a turnstile when the passing. Protection he just doesn't 2484 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,120 Speaker 7: seem to he's snapping the, ball he should be able 2485 01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,479 Speaker 7: to act, immediately and he seems like. Slow have you 2486 01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,200 Speaker 7: guys seen that at? All and what you've been watching 2487 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 7: the training? Camp and who could we reused to replace 2488 01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:52,280 Speaker 7: in this strange a possibility? Still or is that shift? 2489 01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,559 Speaker 7: Sailed thank? G all? 2490 01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:54,760 Speaker 9: Right? 2491 01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:56,400 Speaker 1: Thanks so Was Ben? Brown? 2492 01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,680 Speaker 3: YEAH i Think Ben brown's kicking. Around SO I bradberry's 2493 01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,400 Speaker 3: issue his play Straight like he's just not a particularly 2494 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,719 Speaker 3: strong or big, center and so in pass, protection especially 2495 01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,719 Speaker 3: like against bigger nose, tackles he can get bullied a little, 2496 01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,920 Speaker 3: bit you, know just go backwards and put it. 2497 01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:16,600 Speaker 1: Politely but having said, that the season does depend On 2498 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 1: Drake may. 2499 01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,479 Speaker 6: It, DOES i, Mean and then that's the extreme, example 2500 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,600 Speaker 6: AND i hate comparisons to, him but his ability to 2501 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 6: get the ball out quick and read the defense and 2502 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,280 Speaker 6: nowhere to go with it right after the snap The 2503 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,320 Speaker 6: josh McDaniels thing helped mitigate some of the ups and 2504 01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,759 Speaker 6: downs they had along their offensive. Line, again that's an extreme. 2505 01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,840 Speaker 6: Connection but at the same, time If drake continues to 2506 01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,080 Speaker 6: progress and gets the ball out, fast AND i mean 2507 01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,000 Speaker 6: he said it, himself that was the biggest. TAKEAWAY i 2508 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 6: think it was also AN nfl network yesterday When josh 2509 01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,280 Speaker 6: Shows Tom brady's, film and it was the same thing 2510 01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,840 Speaker 6: WHEN pauli AND i sat with. Him WHAT i came 2511 01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,000 Speaker 6: away most to me is was was that he knew 2512 01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,400 Speaker 6: exactly what he was doing after the snap, before you, 2513 01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,720 Speaker 6: know he could process. EVERYTHING i mean Even tom said 2514 01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,559 Speaker 6: it himself that he would look at The chiefs defense 2515 01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:00,479 Speaker 6: and be, like, YEAH i know exactly what they're every. 2516 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,800 Speaker 6: Time so If drake can get to that, level some 2517 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:04,880 Speaker 6: of these concerns that we have about some of the 2518 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:06,680 Speaker 6: offensive line or some of the weapons like that. 2519 01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:11,240 Speaker 1: Stuff it's not all good if the offensive line isn't, 2520 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,160 Speaker 1: good but it'll he can make it. 2521 01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,400 Speaker 4: Better, yeah he can at least help and avoid some of. 2522 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,280 Speaker 6: Them if the line is really good And Drake may, isn't, 2523 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,320 Speaker 6: well he's he's he knows when they're going to send. 2524 01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:23,519 Speaker 4: PRESSURE i don't think that's going to. 2525 01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,720 Speaker 1: Happen by the, Way i'm just, SAYING i still put 2526 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,439 Speaker 1: the hopes of the season On Drake. 2527 01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,600 Speaker 20: May CAN i push back and, say, well wouldn't you 2528 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,320 Speaker 20: maybe put it On RABEL i would understand what you're 2529 01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,080 Speaker 20: saying About Drake. May, yes he's pivotal but it feels 2530 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 20: like Now rabel's in the, building everything feels. 2531 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 1: Maybe BUT i think he has made things. Better where 2532 01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:49,600 Speaker 1: do you fall on The brady Versus belichick? Debate you 2533 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,439 Speaker 1: better fall on the right. Side going to get no? 2534 01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 22: Comment, Okay, no to be, fair it's it, was it's 2535 01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 22: a tandem. One they have to be. 2536 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,840 Speaker 20: Together it's a lightning stroke and they were both there 2537 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,559 Speaker 20: at the right, time and it and it Created that's 2538 01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:05,920 Speaker 20: a great. 2539 01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,719 Speaker 3: Answer no hit, me good, ANSWER a terrible. 2540 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,840 Speaker 4: Answer one of those guys won a Super bowl without the. 2541 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:16,839 Speaker 22: Other, yeah, well completely honestly. True he also has Well, Listen. 2542 01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,880 Speaker 1: I've always said behind each of them made the other. Better, 2543 01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 1: yeah this is BUT i think THAT i Think. Brady 2544 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,400 Speaker 1: IF i had to start a team, TODAY i would 2545 01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:27,600 Speaker 1: start With brady. 2546 01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:29,800 Speaker 5: The. 2547 01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:33,120 Speaker 1: Player he's the, player and that's why you Mentioned Vrabel 2548 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:39,360 Speaker 1: absolutely important change the, culture, positive, Positive but it's the. 2549 01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:40,960 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i Think bill would. 2550 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,880 Speaker 3: AGREE i know you probably don't think he, would But 2551 01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:44,400 Speaker 3: bill would definitely not. 2552 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,200 Speaker 4: AGREE i don't think he would say the right. 2553 01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:48,760 Speaker 3: Thing, no we. Wouldn't you don't think that If bill 2554 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,640 Speaker 3: it was if someone said To, bill would you like 2555 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,920 Speaker 3: rather yourself Or? Brady he would say me. 2556 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,920 Speaker 4: Would start the team with, no he would think. 2557 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,680 Speaker 3: ME i, WOULD i, mean might not say. That but 2558 01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,880 Speaker 3: if you said, so all of the players win the. 2559 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,400 Speaker 3: Game stuff is all lip. Service for twenty five, years 2560 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:05,880 Speaker 3: we just. 2561 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:06,280 Speaker 1: Go by his. 2562 01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:08,040 Speaker 4: Act how many times have we said, this don't go 2563 01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,080 Speaker 4: by go by what he. Does? 2564 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 20: Yeah SEE i can throw something more inflammatory because you 2565 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,439 Speaker 20: say About brady and one of the things THAT i 2566 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 20: think particularly sort of the second half of his, career 2567 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 20: BECAUSE i know you split it up into, two is 2568 01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,600 Speaker 20: the ground. Connection there was a big deal in the 2569 01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,479 Speaker 20: success of the, offense and he took that To. Tampa, 2570 01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,080 Speaker 20: now Whilst i'm not saying that Like gronk Replaced bill 2571 01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,679 Speaker 20: and that's why they won A Super bowl and things. 2572 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 22: Like, that but it isn't just the summer of one. 2573 01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,960 Speaker 5: Part, YEAH i wouldn't suggest that they only won a 2574 01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,000 Speaker 5: Super bowl because Of, brady ALTHOUGH i would say it 2575 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:40,040 Speaker 5: was ninety five percent of. 2576 01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:40,760 Speaker 18: It but. 2577 01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,840 Speaker 5: If you ask me if it's about a great coach 2578 01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,120 Speaker 5: with a bad quarterback or a bad coach with a great, 2579 01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,200 Speaker 5: Quarterback i'll take the ladder every single. 2580 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:53,320 Speaker 22: Time, YEAH i can see. 2581 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,439 Speaker 3: THAT i, MEAN i see, WHY i, MEAN i know 2582 01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,840 Speaker 3: what you think Of Zach, Taylor ZACK i was gonna Go. Tony, 2583 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,000 Speaker 3: honestly she was. 2584 01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:08,800 Speaker 4: A pretty Good Zach. Taylor he he did With Sean 2585 01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,960 Speaker 4: king to THE Nfc championship, game For god's, sakes that's. 2586 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:13,360 Speaker 4: Good Sean king couldn't. 2587 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:13,639 Speaker 9: Play. 2588 01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:16,360 Speaker 6: No part of the problem with, Argument paul is that 2589 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,880 Speaker 6: he's done all these five hundred. Times, no What you've 2590 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:20,880 Speaker 6: also done all of, Them and so you Started claire 2591 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:22,720 Speaker 6: out with just Like i'm gonna start off with level, One, 2592 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:28,360 Speaker 6: paul you just gave. HER i can't give player, no, no, 2593 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:30,160 Speaker 6: NO i, know but that's but you were JUST i, 2594 01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:34,680 Speaker 6: can but can't. You but see what's happened to me 2595 01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,600 Speaker 6: Is i've been on this show. Longer is that when you, 2596 01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:38,760 Speaker 6: know every DAY i start talking football with my dad 2597 01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 6: and he started or when best was WHEN i went 2598 01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,320 Speaker 6: away with all my college buddies and they start laying 2599 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,400 Speaker 6: into me about their thoughts on The, patriots and ALL 2600 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,920 Speaker 6: i could think about is just Like i've Had i've 2601 01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,760 Speaker 6: had these arguments a hundred different, times And i'm, like 2602 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:50,280 Speaker 6: you don't like. 2603 01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:52,880 Speaker 3: That, No it's Like i'm, trying like this is my time. 2604 01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:54,720 Speaker 3: Off LIKE i. 2605 01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:59,320 Speaker 5: Figured he would like put Like awn, no you, know 2606 01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,520 Speaker 5: he's Like brando at the, Opening evan will see. 2607 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:04,640 Speaker 4: You this is WHAT i. 2608 01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:05,760 Speaker 1: Do this is WHAT i. 2609 01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:09,320 Speaker 3: DO i walk into like a holiday AND i say twenty, 2610 01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 3: minutes this is. It and then when we're, done we're. 2611 01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:14,880 Speaker 3: Done And i'm not doing this AND. 2612 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,720 Speaker 23: I HAVE i know you said twenty BECAUSE i questions 2613 01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:23,760 Speaker 23: like no one just please because THE a on the 2614 01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:27,480 Speaker 23: back side of ball soup, peace just. 2615 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:30,240 Speaker 4: Come, in come. 2616 01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,960 Speaker 5: In you don't like when you are out with like, friends, 2617 01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,840 Speaker 5: FAMILY i shut it. Down so, NO i think we 2618 01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,840 Speaker 5: all would like, to BUT i, do you, KNOW i 2619 01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:41,200 Speaker 5: just LIKE i don't know. 2620 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:41,360 Speaker 4: That. 2621 01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,400 Speaker 5: Yeah my favorite part of What evan's talking about is 2622 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,920 Speaker 5: the people that sort of recognize that you really don't 2623 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,080 Speaker 5: want to talk about and they're, LIKE i know you 2624 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:50,600 Speaker 5: talk about this stuff all the, time. 2625 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,200 Speaker 4: But then they doesn't stop them from going to a 2626 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:55,760 Speaker 4: ten Minute and that's why all the things they. 2627 01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,040 Speaker 6: Think with my college, BUDDIES i just started throwing some 2628 01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,320 Speaker 6: little level one perilla with, them like you did you 2629 01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:01,920 Speaker 6: know just well you know what about you. 2630 01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:03,920 Speaker 4: Know, this like you, know oh, yeah how many? 2631 01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:04,720 Speaker 1: Levels that's a good. 2632 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 4: Point there's. 2633 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:11,280 Speaker 3: He's like an, onion what's like level, five level? 2634 01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:11,520 Speaker 9: Ten. 2635 01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:12,880 Speaker 4: Parillo oh, man that's a. 2636 01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:18,440 Speaker 3: Lookout i've only seen level Ten parillo like once or. 2637 01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 3: Twice it hasn't been a level ten levels, REALLY i 2638 01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,600 Speaker 3: can think of one, time but all The Joe milton. 2639 01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,440 Speaker 4: That was about as heated AS i get on this. 2640 01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:34,560 Speaker 12: Show but that is funny because when you're the. Rational 2641 01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,440 Speaker 12: they had to get rid of. Him why because it 2642 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,720 Speaker 12: was a Problem drake may thank, you bite no. Further 2643 01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,879 Speaker 12: he was just a problem For, drake. 2644 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,640 Speaker 3: You, know for defenses. 2645 01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:48,200 Speaker 4: Too my, god you will not even admit that that 2646 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:49,120 Speaker 4: was why they got rid of. 2647 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:52,880 Speaker 1: Him, no it. Wasn't it was level because he and 2648 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:56,160 Speaker 1: his agent were a pain in the. Ass you're not 2649 01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,640 Speaker 1: who you think you. Are see you, Later. 2650 01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,360 Speaker 5: OKAY i would suggest you do a little bit more. 2651 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,680 Speaker 5: Research i'm not guessing on, this. 2652 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay the, way all, RIGHT i, know all, right we're 2653 01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna do real quick because we're running to the Show White. Ground, 2654 01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:10,920 Speaker 1: yeah real. 2655 01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 9: Quick. 2656 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:12,480 Speaker 1: Shows, eldred what's? 2657 01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:12,720 Speaker 4: Up? 2658 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:15,480 Speaker 1: Aldred? 2659 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,360 Speaker 9: Hey Hey? 2660 01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,880 Speaker 7: Claire good see how You let's? 2661 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:22,360 Speaker 4: Go let's, Go. 2662 01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:26,720 Speaker 10: Claire Was Tom brady twenty five. 2663 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,440 Speaker 4: Boom level Ten eldred drop throw. 2664 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:36,200 Speaker 7: No bad he did read no no. Team OH i. 2665 01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:41,000 Speaker 4: Don't know about reading good. FRIENDS i was some videos 2666 01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:46,160 Speaker 4: to help. Them we're going you could be a. 2667 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,840 Speaker 10: Great coach with no player. 2668 01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:50,840 Speaker 11: The. 2669 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:56,520 Speaker 10: Playbook, oh you gonna be a great coat book player 2670 01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,840 Speaker 10: and you wear a Super bowl and the great player to. 2671 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,920 Speaker 4: Break that's. Fair i'm, sorry all, right all, right. 2672 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:13,280 Speaker 1: Thanks let's go To danny And. Daytona what's, Up? Danny, yes, yes, quickly, 2673 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:14,920 Speaker 1: hey so. 2674 01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 10: QUICKLY i just want to say one. 2675 01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,560 Speaker 7: Thing everybody is going crazy about the ten and seven 2676 01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 7: and eleven. 2677 01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:22,040 Speaker 6: Wins that's. 2678 01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,440 Speaker 10: CRAZY i think realistically the team's gonna go nine and. 2679 01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,240 Speaker 10: Eight About, paul he was kind. 2680 01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:33,120 Speaker 14: Of you, know being negative, fancy BUT i, think like he. 2681 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:38,360 Speaker 7: Said maybe work they get six, wins BUT i think realistically. 2682 01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:42,160 Speaker 1: Eight, okay that's. Fair Thanks. 2683 01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:43,120 Speaker 4: DANNY i could see. 2684 01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:46,200 Speaker 1: THAT i, said, SEE i, said floor, six ceialing. TEN i. 2685 01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 3: Win if they go nine and, Eight i'm. 2686 01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,000 Speaker 5: Happy i'd Be i'd be happy with nine and a, 2687 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 5: Too But i'm not. NEGATIVE i think they could go 2688 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,680 Speaker 5: nine and. Eight christian In New, york what's Up? 2689 01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:55,120 Speaker 1: Christian? 2690 01:58:56,480 --> 01:59:01,320 Speaker 4: You Claire, Claire, Hi Christian. 2691 01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:03,720 Speaker 7: New. 2692 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:09,440 Speaker 10: York do you get uh better offended when the guys do? 2693 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:14,120 Speaker 22: That, no it's just what they do it's. 2694 01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:14,640 Speaker 4: Fine it's. 2695 01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:15,320 Speaker 22: Cool, no it's. 2696 01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:15,760 Speaker 1: Cool It's. 2697 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:18,560 Speaker 22: Christian it's nice to be recognized In New, York. 2698 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:20,440 Speaker 5: New. 2699 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:24,400 Speaker 10: York i'm In New. York, unfortunately defendited my. Dad we 2700 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:25,720 Speaker 10: have to put him in a nerdy. Home. 2701 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:34,680 Speaker 4: Ho i'm, Sorry. Christian the end of the it's going to. 2702 01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:37,000 Speaker 10: Happen several of you guys have been, there right the 2703 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,360 Speaker 10: first time you see your dad like mall and. Weak 2704 01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:43,160 Speaker 10: it's a real like transformative, thing you. 2705 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:46,760 Speaker 1: Know UNFORTUNATELY i never got that. Chance but, anyway all, 2706 01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:47,440 Speaker 1: Right Christian. 2707 01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:52,240 Speaker 2: Football What i've noticed is our guild players and even 2708 01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:54,640 Speaker 2: some of our offensive linemen seem to be. 2709 01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:58,040 Speaker 10: Undersigned is that like a trend in the? League or 2710 01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,280 Speaker 10: are we just like under By? 2711 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,400 Speaker 9: Tea, Yeah i'll. 2712 02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:05,000 Speaker 10: Take Up eric to see you. Guys, Okay, claire keep 2713 02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,520 Speaker 10: coming back and on the state. 2714 02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:10,160 Speaker 4: Guys oh yeah for, sure. Thanks, Thanks will you in 2715 02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:10,600 Speaker 4: like handle? 2716 02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:14,640 Speaker 1: GUYS a trend for? Lineman, NO i haven't thought about. 2717 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:17,400 Speaker 3: That, YEAH i mean, Underside Like campbell's arms are a little, 2718 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,520 Speaker 3: short but he's six, six three hundred and thirty. Pounds 2719 02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 3: that wouldn't call that. 2720 02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:23,400 Speaker 4: UNDERSIZED i really think their offensive line is underside. 2721 02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:25,600 Speaker 3: When cold strange wasn't the biggest guy, Now Colt strange, 2722 02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:27,840 Speaker 3: undersized And Jared wilson's built more like a center than 2723 02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:30,440 Speaker 3: a guard in terms of his. Size maybe he's. 2724 02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Never huge, guard he's huge most. 2725 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,000 Speaker 4: In campbell regular size. Tas. 2726 02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah all, right that's gonna be it for this edition 2727 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Of Patriot's. Unfiltered we will be back next. 2728 02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:48,320 Speaker 3: Week uh you, Won't, well he'll be here for The 2729 02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:49,640 Speaker 3: commander's joint, practice won't. 2730 02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:53,080 Speaker 1: You, Yeah so stay tuned With patriots dot com and 2731 02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,240 Speaker 1: social for all the. News we've got the in stadium 2732 02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:57,920 Speaker 1: practice tomorrow that we'll be reporting, On so we'll give 2733 02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:00,839 Speaker 1: you everything we see there and we will see you Next. 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