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Speaker 3: Junior in the five o'clock hour here on KFI. One

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Speaker 3: of the stories that made news over the weekend, which

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Speaker 3: is a bit of a surprise, County District Attorney George

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Speaker 3: Gascon declines to prosecute deputies in what The Times describes

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Speaker 3: as high profile shootings of teens. And of course we

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Speaker 3: all know shortly after the people made the mistake of

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Speaker 3: electing this guy, we knew better. He was a know

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Speaker 3: on our voter guide, Do not make George Gascon in

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Speaker 3: the La County DA. We should have stuck with Jackie

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Speaker 3: Lacey that some of this stuff would be coming, and

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Speaker 3: But he really set off the alarms back in twenty

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Speaker 3: his directives shortly thereafter and his plans to dismantle all

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Speaker 3: traces of the criminal justice system in Los Angeles County.

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Speaker 3: The das, many of them the deputy DA's. They voted

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Speaker 3: overwhelmingly to support the recall, which unfortunately did not happen.

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Speaker 3: The former La County DAN were also upset by this.

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Speaker 3: We've talked to Steve Cooley many times about the policies

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Speaker 3: of George Gascon. Now he has already several challengers. There

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Speaker 3: won't be anybody voting until next year, which will begin

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Speaker 3: in November of twenty twenty four. But a couple of

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Speaker 3: who recently also decided that he will be challenging George

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Speaker 3: Gascon and Nathan Hackman, you may recall ran for a

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Speaker 3: state attorney general as well. Let's get him on the

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Speaker 1: Nathan, how are you.

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Speaker 4: Very well? Great to be back on your show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to talk with you again.

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Speaker 2: Just let's quickly lay out lay out your background, because

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Speaker 2: you've got quite a history. You were an assistant US

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Speaker 2: attorney and also an Assistant Attorney General during the Bush administry.

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Speaker 4: That's right. I was a federal prosecutor prosecuted over one

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Speaker 4: I also have a chance to be the president of

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Speaker 4: the LA City Ethics Commission. A defense attorney a civil

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Speaker 2: That certainly covers the whole industry, doesn't it. What do

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Speaker 4: You know I have a lifelong Angelino. I was born here,

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Speaker 4: fight for what I love. And George Gascon has literally

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Speaker 4: driven our criminal justice system into the ground. He's a

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Speaker 4: a gothamth dystopian society. Re lawlessness is running supreme, where

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Speaker 4: to bring independence and experience to the job. In order

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Speaker 1: Came up short on the recall.

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Speaker 3: Do you think in just over a year from now,

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Speaker 4: I think they will. I think what's happening, and I've

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Speaker 4: I think people will wake up. They never got a

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Speaker 4: vote George Gascon down, and then they're going to look

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Speaker 4: for the person who's both independent and experience and has

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Speaker 4: running as an independent in this race because I believe

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Speaker 4: that the DA or George Gascon has played politics with

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that ask gohing crowd is doing

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Speaker 2: this just destroying the justice system. You saw Mayhem in

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Speaker 1: Why are they pushing it?

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Speaker 4: Well? I think again, when Gascon came into office, he

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Speaker 4: prosecute violent and serious offenders on the front end. We're

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Speaker 4: not worse. I think what we've seen over the last

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Speaker 4: They see what's going on in their own community. They

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Speaker 4: see the peddler of lies that George Gascau has been,

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Speaker 3: Well, what do you think about the LA County Board

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Speaker 3: of Supervisors? Two of them just put forth a motion

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Speaker 3: you think you're running against the tide here?

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Speaker 1: What money?

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Speaker 3: Then you talk about La City Council. A lot of

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Speaker 4: This is absolutely the wrong direction. In fact, that proposal

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Speaker 4: there is such a backlash to their proposal that even

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Speaker 4: I think that people will speak out again in twenty

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Speaker 2: What do you think happens if we continue down this path?

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Speaker 2: If these prosecutors like Gascon stay in power. What's going

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Speaker 2: to happen to the cities? What's going to happen to

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Speaker 1: Rid of them?

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Speaker 4: I think people, you know, we've already lost a huge

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Speaker 4: You know, if we're going to be taxed at the

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Speaker 4: I refuse to do that. I think that I and

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Speaker 4: I think the voters are going to stay and fight

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Speaker 4: Shootings are up, quality of life, crimes are way up.

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Speaker 4: The community that the trust that the DA's office is

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: You can find out more at Nathanhakman dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's h O C. H M A N. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on once again. We'll be talking to you

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, all right.

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Speaker 3: Former US Assistant Attorney General Nathan Hockman. He ran for

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Speaker 1: So as we come back, it's time for a keyword.

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Speaker 2: They're selling space. Space costs money. You're taking up too

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Speaker 1: Called the doom loop.

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Speaker 3: It could be the end for many cities and regions,

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Speaker 1: Well, they call it.

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Speaker 3: And this is a wonks who study this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: a doom loop. A doom loop in reference to cities

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, households earning more than one hundred

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Speaker 2: The you know, we had we had John Coupaul from

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Speaker 3: And even if it's not like the top one percent

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Speaker 3: And we have created a state over the decades, which

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Speaker 2: So thereer people live here, fewer people coming into work,

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Speaker 2: And all the big cities are projecting budget shortfalls, and

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Speaker 3: a tech company, and he says, what because we can

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Speaker 3: Now we're gonna We're going to Arizona, New Mexico, because

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Speaker 3: the crime is expensive.

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Speaker 1: Home.

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Speaker 6: The crime and the vagrants wear you down. It gets

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Speaker 6: so tiresome. You get tired of being afraid, tired of

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Speaker 6: looking over your shoulder, tired of doing the poop hopscotch,

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Speaker 6: tired of dealing dealing with crazy meth guys screaming at you,

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Speaker 6: and now a lot of these these meth cases are

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Speaker 6: getting more and more violent, and you think, am I going.

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Speaker 1: To be the nextport on the news?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the next one with my throat slit or

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Speaker 2: a knife sticking out of the back of my head.

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Speaker 2: It's like, what am I doing? And then you hear

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Speaker 2: from your friends who've moved away to a smaller town

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Speaker 2: or they've gone to Miami, and they tell you, know,

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Speaker 2: we don't have any of this here. This is great.

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Speaker 2: The taxes are low and life is good, and you're thinking, man,

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Speaker 2: I feel like a fool. What am I doing?

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Speaker 3: Strangely, a decent percentage, well, one of the highest percentage

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Speaker 3: is only twelve twelve percent of people that moved from

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Speaker 3: the Bay Area actually came down to LA.

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Speaker 6: Eleven percent went to Sacramento, SOS. You would say, San

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Speaker 6: Francisco's like, I know, the whole Bay area. LA looks good,

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 3: And then about eleven percent went to Sacramentice And I

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Speaker 3: read the Sacramento got a boom during the pandemic because

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Speaker 3: obviously the cost of living there is lower, the homes

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Speaker 3: are lower priced, and not really I don't think a

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Speaker 3: very pleasant place to live.

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Speaker 1: But if people are moving to Texas, they'll move to Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: That's true, there's probably some similarities there.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 3: We got work up it up Johnny Ken kf I

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Speaker 3: AM six forty. We're not in the doom loop yet,

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Speaker 3: are we on the show?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Well, of course we're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: A couple of stories from Florida to and the show.

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Speaker 3: It looks like the Florida House of Representatives has passed

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Speaker 3: a bill that would require only a two thirds vote

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Speaker 3: by a jury to give somebody the death penalty. You

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Speaker 3: don't have to be unanimous. And some of this comes

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Speaker 3: about because Nicholas Cruz, remember him, the Valentine's Day killer

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Speaker 3: at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School, killed seventeen students, but

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Speaker 3: the jury deadlocked, well nine to three, that was good.

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Speaker 3: Could not get a unanimous agreement that he should be executed,

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Speaker 3: so he got life without.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, you know what, it's a little crack

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Speaker 6: in this stupid jury system, dumbest system imaginable. You're getting

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Speaker 6: twelve yahoos off the street to try to figure out

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Speaker 6: what all those lying lawyers who are trying to manipulate

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Speaker 6: their emotions.

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Speaker 1: I'm ridiculous. System. They should be a simple majority should

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Speaker 1: should rule. An increasing problem for some people that own properties,

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Speaker 1: particularly with the rise in homelessness or squatters. And in Florida,

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Speaker 1: apparently a couple of women took over a rental property

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Speaker 1: for more than a month before the owners were they

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Speaker 1: caught up to that.

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Speaker 3: They went there to a victim and it got ugly.

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Speaker 3: They threw a brick at them, human poop and they

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Speaker 3: had a pitbull with brand new puppies on the property.

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Speaker 3: The women that owned the property are Patty People's Did

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Speaker 3: you see Patty People's picture there John with the She

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Speaker 3: has the largest eyeglasses I have ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 3: They look comic. There is umongous she's one of the

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Speaker 3: co owners of the property.

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Speaker 1: She said.

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Speaker 3: These two women tried to tell them, well, we got scammed.

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Speaker 3: Somebody pretended that they were the rightful owner of this property,

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Speaker 3: and they took a security deposit and one month's rent

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Speaker 3: from us, so we're not leaving. So it took a

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Speaker 3: while for them to get them out of there.

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Speaker 2: It is difficult to evict even if they're squatters, even

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Speaker 2: if you know, even in Florida, California, the squatters would

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Speaker 2: get the right to the home.

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Speaker 1: Said they were the victims of a Zillow rental scam.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the photos of the damage.

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Speaker 2: Cabinets ripped out, huge holes punched in the wall, The

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Speaker 2: washer and dryer were missing.

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Speaker 1: Forty dollars in damages.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly, dog in a house like that in Florida doesn't

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Speaker 3: cost like a million dollars, so that's a pretty sizable

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Speaker 3: chunk of it's worth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had human feces thrown at him, but there

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Speaker 2: was dog poop all over the home. Now here's a question,

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Speaker 2: all right, because uh the landlords were hit by a

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Speaker 2: brick and human poop throwing it. Would you rather be

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Speaker 2: hit by human poop or a brick?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Wow, where where am I hit? Uh? I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get hit in the have of the brick.

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Speaker 3: So if you're telling me that I'm gonna get hit

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Speaker 3: in the head, I'll probably take the feast.

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Speaker 1: You take, You take the feces. Yeah, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to get hit and having the brick that could do

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Speaker 1: the damage about the face. I don't know. I want

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Speaker 1: to get in ahead of the brick. In the face

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Speaker 1: of a brick. I don't know do I get paid

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Speaker 1: for this?

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Speaker 3: People's told the local media there's a forty day plus

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Speaker 3: process that we have to go through to get repossession

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Speaker 3: of our home that's been taken by squatters.

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Speaker 1: How is that because possession is nine tenths of the law.

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Speaker 1: That cliche? Is that true?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's true. So if you're in there,

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Speaker 1: they protect you to be in there. Oh man. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Only after giving the squatters of the boot did the

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Speaker 3: landlord see how badly they destroyed the There were holes

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Speaker 3: punched in the wall, ripped out cabinets, the washington and

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Speaker 3: dryer were missing, and you're right, dog poop was everywhere.

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 2: This is what keeps me from ever renting out property.

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Speaker 2: Every time that brings up, she goes, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: we should buy iron an apartment and rent it out,

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Speaker 2: but use it to know. You don't want to be

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Speaker 2: you want to deal with I've heard from many people

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Speaker 2: that is the worst. I said, you are dealing with

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Speaker 2: the tenant's not me. I am not responding to tenant

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Speaker 2: issues and I'm not getting hit in the head with

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Speaker 2: a break or poop or poop. Yeah, Rottweilers or yeah,

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Speaker 2: or taking on Rottweiler's you're getting hit with Rothwiler.

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Speaker 1: Pooh, none of it conways here.

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Speaker 6: Hey, now, can I tell you quick John and Ken's

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Speaker 6: story that happened today?

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Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know if we believe it, but go ahead.

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Speaker 6: It's totally true. I'm eating McDonald's in the car listening

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Speaker 6: to John and Ken show. You're living and you do

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Speaker 6: an entire two segments on Ken brought up this article

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Speaker 6: about the weather and predicting al Nino and La Nina,

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Speaker 6: and they can't predict ten minutes from now right right,

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Speaker 6: And you guys do a whole run on It's it's

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Speaker 6: just like guesswork. You know, forty chance of El Nino,

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Speaker 6: that means six fifty nine percent chance there won't be right.

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Speaker 6: So you do the whole segment, and then I what's

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Speaker 6: your name? Deborah Mark comes on. The first news story

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Speaker 6: she has is the next fifteen years aren't gonna be

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Speaker 6: good for bats because of it, the temperature might go

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Speaker 6: up by a degree.

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Speaker 1: What are you saying?

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Speaker 6: Did you just listen to that well that they can predict?

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Speaker 1: She unraveled everything we tried to estap. That's right, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, man, that's too.

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Speaker 2: If I have a two stations fiers running a news department,

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Speaker 2: all prediction stories are banded again.

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Speaker 3: They're completely separate independents.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: That's yeah, that is evident some nights, not with Krozier,

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Speaker 6: but some other people. I LA Mayor Karen bass is

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Speaker 6: going to deliver a first state of the City.

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Speaker 1: You carried it live, Yeah, I carry that live. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna travel.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna butt it up against the Viragosa's speech really

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Speaker 6: sound the same. Hollywood Writers' Union members are going to strike.

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Speaker 6: They said a strike so if the talks failed to

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Speaker 6: walk out out and I'm stream actors guilt. Sorry you guys,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna support them if they strike, I'm out, is

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Speaker 6: that right?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: Coming in, Well, you're lucky. There's going to be no

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Speaker 6: picket line in front of our building.

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Speaker 1: Time out.

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Speaker 6: And then Beverly this is shock. Beverly Grove restaurant. Their

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Speaker 6: windows were smashed and there's a homeless encamp and nearby

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Speaker 6: they think it may have something to do with the home.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's the one where the naked woman.

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Speaker 6: And you know there's still some young guys who like

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Speaker 6: drove over to try to get a glimpse of.

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Speaker 1: That, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like when you're young, you don't care how old

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Speaker 6: or what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's just nude. Right, she hasn't washed in a month.

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Speaker 6: Fine, it takes no problem, that's true, man, big all right,

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Speaker 6: tig Dog Conway.

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Speaker 3: Brig on that show, Buddy Livenay for our Camfin newsroom. Hey,

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Speaker 3: you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. You

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Speaker 3: can always hear us live on caf I AM six

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Speaker 3: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 3: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app