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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: speaking about the one the only, Paris Hilton, global entrepreneur, artist,

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Speaker 2: got to watch reveals the truth behind her evolution and

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Speaker 2: driving this next chapter of our life. I promise you

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Speaker 2: you won't want to miss the documentary, Infinite Icon. Go

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Speaker 2: and check it out right after you watch this interview.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome back Paris Hilton. Paris is so great to

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here and thank you for

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Speaker 2: I always say that my favorite guests keep coming back.

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Speaker 2: I love having guests back on the show because I

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Speaker 2: feel I get to deepen my relationship with you. The

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Speaker 2: really shows me just how much wonderful trust and connection

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Speaker 2: we built last time. And of course I've had the

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Speaker 1: Oh my pleasure. I always love seeing you and your wife.

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Speaker 1: You both are just such kind and inspiring and incredible people,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Baris Well. I want to dive right in

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Speaker 1: Wow, It's like I feel like I've just grown so

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Speaker 2: Last time you came on, we were talking about your memoir.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been through a lot in my life,

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Speaker 1: that today, like he would be like in jail, like

438
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: that would it would not fly? And I don't know,

439
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: I think I also think about it too, and like,

440
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I had to go through certain things

441
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: in life so it wouldn't happen to others because today

442
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: it would be a completely different story. But yeah, it

443
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: was just I feel like that's something that people, if

444
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: they don't know my story now, like that they would

445
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: judge me for the rest of my life for it.

446
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: And you know, growing up, I always like looked up

447
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: to people like Princess Diana and Grace Kelly, all these amazing,

448
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: elegant women, and I feel like when he did that

449
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: to me, it took that away from me, Like people

450
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: would never look at me in that way because of it,

451
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: and that is something that will probably haunt me for

452
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. And it just makes me

453
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: so sad for that girl who had to go through

454
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: that and just feel so alone and just so sad,

455
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: like I just didn't even want to ever see any

456
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: one again after that happened. I was like hiding in

457
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: my house. I canceled the whole press store for The

458
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: Simple Life because that was literally about to come out

459
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: like a few days later, and uh, yeah, something. I

460
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll ever fully heal from that, really,

461
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I will. But I

462
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: hope by telling my story that I can help others

463
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: from not having that happen to them and also having

464
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: it be illegal and now there's so many laws against it,

465
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: and there was nothing to protect me back then for it,

466
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: but today women are more protected in that sense. There's

467
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: still more work to do, and that's something also that

468
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: I want to use my voice for and fight because

469
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: it's not right for anyone to go through something like that.

470
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Was that the reason you've revisited in the documentary? What

471
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: was your reason for wanting to revisit such a horrific, terrible,

472
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: tragic and heartbreaking time? Why did you do it?

473
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: Just to let others know they're not alone? I've seen

474
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: it happened so many other women, had so many people

475
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: girls reach out to me on social media. Girls, boys.

476
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: So many people go through that, you know, where an

477
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: ex will go and do something like that to them

478
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: and put it online and then it's something that ruins

479
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: their lives as well. And so many people have been

480
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: through it. So I want people to know that they're

481
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: not alone and that's not their shame. They shouldn't be

482
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: a shame for something that someone did to them. And Yeah,

483
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: I think it's important for people to be able to

484
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: think about it that way because I feel that that

485
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't define and who you are, because that's not who

486
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: you are. That's what somebody did to you. And that's

487
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: been a really empowering thing for me to feel to

488
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: let go of that shame because it's something I should

489
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: never have held onto.

490
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's so interesting, isn't it Where someone hurts

491
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: you and takes advantage of you and exploits you. But

492
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: then you're the one who's left with the shame and guilt.

493
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: And then you carry that around and now everyone you

494
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: see you're reflecting back that shame and guilt, and like

495
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: you said, the media makes a storm out of it

496
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: to get attention off of it and makes it worse.

497
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what you went through at that time.

498
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: I can't even begin to fathom, especially as a nineteen

499
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: year old like to go through that. And I'm glad

500
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: that things are changing, but I still worry that the

501
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: media finds a way to target women. Like you said,

502
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have famous women to reach out to

503
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: you all the time as to how they feel targeted

504
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: in the media today to talk. Do you get people

505
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: reaching out and saying, Paris, how do you deal with this?

506
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people reached out to me and

507
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: just like how did you survive like all this? Like

508
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: you're so strong, You've been through so much, And they'll

509
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: be like, I'm going through something similar right now, like

510
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do, And a lot

511
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: of people even said like I want like take my

512
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: own life, like I don't want to live anymore. And

513
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just try to make people

514
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: feel strong and know that they'll this is something that

515
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: will pass and they'll get over it, and just to

516
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: take back their power in some way. But yeah, I

517
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: think it's just the shame is something that is just

518
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: so hard to hold on too. So I think that's

519
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: important for people try to try to heal from that

520
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: and to let go from it. But you know, it's

521
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: something that still happens today and it makes me so sad.

522
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: And now, you know, with all these platforms and you know,

523
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: the iPhones and all, it's just like the hidden camera.

524
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: There's just so many things that are happening, and it

525
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: just people need to stop, and people need to be

526
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: held accountable for it, so they don't think that they

527
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: can just get away with it.

528
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: What was that twelve month period after the tape release

529
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: like for you? Like, what did life look like? You

530
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: said you put off the press tool for a simple life.

531
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: I just for several months did not leave my house.

532
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to see anyone. I don't want

533
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: to talk to anyone. I canceled everything. I didn't want

534
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: to speak about it. I just wanted to ignore it

535
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: and just pretend like it never happened, so I would

536
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: just like not even have to think about it. People

537
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: just kept saying like Paris, like we need you here,

538
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: like your show just came out. And then SNL called

539
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: and they asked me to come on, and Jimmy Fallon

540
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: had this really funny script that they wanted me to do,

541
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and I was really nervous to do it, but I

542
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: love Jimmy. He's always been so kind and so lovely

543
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: and just a really amazing person. So I went and

544
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: did it, and I feel like that made me feel

545
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: a little bit better, like I was almost taking my

546
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: power back and away, and I don't know, it just

547
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: like was like a turning point for me. Where after

548
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: that then I felt more comfortable. And then, you know,

549
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: it was always difficult and horror, but I knew that

550
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I needed to be strong, and I knew that I

551
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: needed to just go on with my life. But it's

552
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: something that will always be in the back of my mind.

553
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that moment in the documentary, which that clip of

554
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: you on SNL, it feels like that was the moment

555
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: where you leaned into the narrative, owning it, claiming it

556
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: in your own way. Redefining it and that sounds like

557
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: such a that's so counterintuitive, but for you, it was

558
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: marketing genius but also healing. It's like it's almost it's

559
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: so it's such a hard moment because it's like there's

560
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: so much pain internally, but then you have work and

561
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: a life and you're trying to get it back. And

562
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: so talk to me about what reclaiming your narrative meant

563
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: to you in that moment and what you went on

564
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: to do that felt empowering internally and externally because I

565
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: think we see externally how it made sense as a brand,

566
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: but you're a human and as I'm sitting in front

567
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: of you now and I'm hearing you speak, I'm like,

568
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: oh no, this is this is not over for Paris.

569
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: It never was, even though the ads and everything took

570
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: off and everything changed. What was that internal journey after

571
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: that that was happening while the external brand was being reclaimed.

572
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: I think in my mind I just felt like, I

573
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: don't know, the whole world had this kind of like

574
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: what they thought of Miss Persona, and I was already

575
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: creating a care turn away because of all the other

576
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: trauma I had been through as.

577
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: A teenagers last time.

578
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was like almost like my armor, like

579
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: this caricature where I was like, this will keep me strong.

580
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: And you know, they're not actually laughing at me, They're

581
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: laughing at this character that I purposely am doing. So

582
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I was kind of just like leaning

583
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: into it, like oh, you think this about me, all right,

584
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Well I'm going to take it to the next level

585
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: and I'm going to build an entire like brand around

586
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: an empire. And I don't know, I just felt like

587
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: always that character, you know, kind of like that dumb

588
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: blonde persona just kind of just was like shielding me

589
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: from everything else. And also because I had so much

590
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, internalized pain and trauma I had been through

591
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: that I was not ready to discuss back then because

592
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I just didn't even have the time to reflect on it.

593
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: Because I was young.

594
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: I was like a million things were happening, and you know,

595
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: people were not even talking about mental health or or

596
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: any of that. You know. I think up until like

597
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: five years ago, it feels like like literally, yeah, so

598
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: there was no room to even do that because nobody

599
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: if you even said the word mental health back then,

600
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: people wouldn't even know what they would be like what

601
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: like a mental hospital, Like they wouldn't even understand what

602
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: that meant. So it was just like a timing was

603
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: not even right to be able to be serious or

604
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: talk about or reflect in that way. And I was

605
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: so young and I wouldn't even have known how to

606
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: put anything into words. So I kind of just I

607
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I think everything is Also, my careers just

608
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: always happened so authentically. We're just like I just kind

609
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: of like lean into things and just have fun with it.

610
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: And with the ADHD, I have like this kind of

611
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: almost like silly fun side, and then with a simple

612
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: life show as well. It's just like kind of all

613
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: turned into this thing. And then I just was like

614
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: okay and started getting offered all these deals and my

615
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: new perfume and just you know, getting paid a million

616
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: dollars to show up at a party. I was like, okay,

617
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: like let's do this. So I kind of was just

618
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: like going with the flow and with life. And also

619
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: it was more I think easier for me just to

620
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: like laugh through the pain than actually feel the pain.

621
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of been easy. That people were saying,

622
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: you put the tape out on Papasida.

623
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: That was the thing that was the most painful for

624
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: me as well, for people to believe that, because you know,

625
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: something that's the most personal thing that you would never

626
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: want anyone to see, and then people thinking you did

627
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: it on purpose, that was something that really upset me.

628
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: And then seeing other people come out after and purposely

629
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: do it, which then people are like, oh, well everyone

630
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: purposely does and was like, no, like, that is not

631
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: why I wanted the world to know me like I'm

632
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: people don't know. I'm actually like a very like, extremely

633
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: painfully shy person and I've always been very like shy.

634
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was something that always upset me. And

635
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: then seeing other people do it purposely, that was another

636
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: thing where I was like, this is I don't know.

637
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: I just think it's sad of people would purposely do

638
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: something like that.

639
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being so open and vulnerable

640
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: about it, because yeah, it's just when you talk about

641
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: it in the documentary too, and it's so interesting how

642
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: your recovery from this moment is it's brave. But what

643
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: you just said now is actually it's me laughing through

644
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: something that I wasn't ready to confront. And it's interesting

645
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: because when you look at it It's a brilliant case

646
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: study in marketing from a business standpoint of someone leaning

647
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: into a narrative, But then there's a human healing component

648
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: that we just forget about. That we forget that someone's

649
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: still having to go through this, someone still having to

650
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: heal through this. What was the most important part of

651
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: your healing journey? Like when did you confront in what helped?

652
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: Like what really worked to recover from something dis traumatic?

653
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that you said you haven't fully you

654
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: maybe never fully hear, which is completely fair. But what

655
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: has helped you even be confident to sit here right

656
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: now and speak about it with so much composure, which

657
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: I can't believe is easy.

658
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: It's definitely been in a journey, you know. The beginning,

659
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: I didn't want to even speak about it at all

660
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: because it was just too difficult to talk about and

661
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: just the most humiliating, you know, thing to go through.

662
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: But now seeing so many other people who went through

663
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: it as well, it gives me the strength to be

664
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: able to talk about it for them as well. And

665
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: now being a mother with a daughter, it makes me

666
00:35:53,880 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: feel extremely protective of her and of other women and girls.

667
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: But I don't want anyone to ever feel that pain.

668
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: So I feel like by me talking about it, maybe

669
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: it will help others not make that same mistake to

670
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: not trust someone in that way, because unfortunately, you know,

671
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: it's not It's very rare to find someone you can

672
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: trust like I've I'm so lucky now I have such

673
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: an amazing husband who I trusted my life and who

674
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: had never hurt me and loves me to the moon

675
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: and back and is obsessed with me. But you know,

676
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't even think I would have been like ready

677
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: for this type of love at my point, at this

678
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: point in my life if I had not healed the

679
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: way I have. Yeah, I've been through a lot in

680
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: my life, and I'm proud of how strong I am

681
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: and resilient and you know, no matter what happens to

682
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: me in life, it just makes me stronger every single time.

683
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: And it's Yeah, I'm really really proud of who I

684
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: am today.

685
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: You shouldn't be spend a lot.

686
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: You definitely should be. I mean, after reading your memoir

687
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: and speaking to your last time about everything that happened

688
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: in your teenagers and now talking about this, I'm like,

689
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: you should definitely be so proud, and I'm so happy

690
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: as well that you've been able to find a partner

691
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: that respects you and has an amazing you know, as

692
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: I said earlier, I love Carr. I think he's awesome.

693
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: He's just such great energy and he definitely adores you

694
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: in the most beautiful special way. And for you both

695
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 2: to have that now and to have a beautiful family together,

696
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: I think it also is inspiring to other people to go, Wow,

697
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: you can go through that and by the healing still

698
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: be with someone who does that. Do you feel Cart

699
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: was the first person to truly see and understand you,

700
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: like to see you truly.

701
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: This was the first time that I've shown myself truly wow.

702
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Like we started dating in twenty nineteen. That was right

703
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: before the documentary came out, so I had just finished

704
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: filming it, and you know, I wasn't even looking for

705
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: a relationship or anything. I was like, you know, after

706
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: what I've been through in life, I'm just gonna be

707
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: single forever. Like I don't need anyone. I can have

708
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: children on my own, I can support myself. And I

709
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: just was had. I had such a wall around my

710
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: heart that I didn't think I'd ever let anyone in.

711
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: And you know, when I met him that day on

712
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in the Hamptons. I just like saw something like

713
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: in his smile, like just the way I could see

714
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: in his eyes, like he was a kind person. And

715
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I gave him the chance and like,

716
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, let down the walls a little bit from

717
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: my heart. And it's just been life changing and to

718
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: have such an amazing close relationship with someone. And I

719
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: think before just I was not ready for that because

720
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: of what I'd been through in my life, especially with men,

721
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: that it made me not trust anyone. But I feel

722
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: like everything happens for a reason and timing is everything.

723
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful that I did the documentary because

724
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: it really made it possible for me to now have

725
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: this amazing family and my beautiful babies, and yeah, just

726
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: this incredible life that I just feel so grateful for.

727
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: Every single day.

728
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: We see we get to see the babies in the documentary,

729
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: you know, it's so beautiful seeing you with them and

730
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: as a mother. What's been your favorite part about becoming

731
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: a mother?

732
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Just everything, like I did not know like love like

733
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: this could exist, and they just bring me so much

734
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: happiness and every morning just seeing their big smiles and

735
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: just how excited they are and just seeing all these

736
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: just like special moments and the holidays and the excitement

737
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: and going to Disneyland and just it feels like being

738
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: a kid again with them, and just I'm just like

739
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: so obsessed, so in love. They're like my two best friends,

740
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: and we everything together and travel the world together. And

741
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: they're so smart or so sweet, so kind loving, they're

742
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: so cute together. They're best friends. And just he's obsessed

743
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: with her. She looks up to him so much, and

744
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: it's just so cute just to see their relationship. And

745
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: they look exactly like me as well. So I just

746
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: like look at them like I'm looking at myself almost,

747
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: and I just want to give them the most amazing,

748
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: beautiful fun life and make them incredible human beings. And

749
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: just I don't know, just like I feel like all

750
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: of my dreams have come true, Like everything I thought

751
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: about as a little girl has come true. And wow,

752
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: I really believe like I manifested Carter, the babies, my home,

753
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: my pets, all my things. So you'd say you were happy, Yeah,

754
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. Like I used to always make eleven

755
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: eleven wishes and now every time it's leve eleven and

756
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: that I look at Carter, I'm like, I don't even

757
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: know what to wish for anymore. Like I like all

758
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: my wishes have come true, and I just feel like

759
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: the luckiest girl in the world.

760
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: I love that. What's been with the kids? What's one

761
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: lesson from the Paris Playbook that you want the kids

762
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: to learn from you.

763
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: I want them to know that kindness is the most

764
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: important thing, Like that's something that is so important to me.

765
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: And just to feel comfortable, to be able to tell

766
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: me anything and always feel safe, Just to know that

767
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I'll always be there for them, and I'll always support them,

768
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: and I'll always give them the best advice and just

769
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I want them to always

770
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: just feel comfortable that they can tell me anything, because

771
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, if your kid is too scared to

772
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: say something to you, then I don't know, then bad

773
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: things might happen because they don't feel comfortable to say

774
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: something to you.

775
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. I think all the trouble

776
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: I got into as a kid was because I didn't

777
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: feel comfortable telling my parents' stuff. Like I wouldn't I

778
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: would have avoided so much trouble I got into as

779
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: a kid. I was a troublesome kid and I was

780
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: a good person, but I was I was always just

781
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: getting involved in the wrong things. And it was all

782
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: because I couldn't talk to them about anything, and if

783
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: I tried, it would be shut down or I'd be

784
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: told not to do that or whatever it was. And

785
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: there was just no openness and dialogue. And I love

786
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: my parents. They're amazing. They felt they were doing it

787
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: from a good place from what they knew. We have

788
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: a great relationship. But at the time, now I look

789
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: back and I think I wish I could have just

790
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: told my mom about that. I wish I could have

791
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: told my dad about that, And maybe I wouldn't have

792
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: because I was scared and I felt fearful, and that

793
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: way you end up relying on yourself, but then you

794
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: end up making mistakes because you're just a kid. And

795
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: so I really liked that lesson because to me, that's

796
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: a really standout lesson of just how do you truly

797
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: make them feel comfortable to tell you everything and they

798
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: don't feel judged and they don't feel unloved. You know,

799
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: you've had you've had the media treatment in so many

800
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: different ways, I wanted to ask you what was harder

801
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: being misunderstood or underestimated?

802
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: Hm? Hm hm. I feel like so much life and

803
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: career I've been underestimated, And something I love doing is

804
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: proving people wrong. So I guess I don't mind that

805
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: as much now because I've really proven them wrong. But yeah,

806
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: being misunderstood, I think people just having you know, a

807
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: certain way to think about you, which there's always been

808
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: so much more to me than what people ever thought,

809
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: and I'm showing that side of me now, which has

810
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: been so freeing. To be able to show that there's

811
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: so much more than you know, the girl that they

812
00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: thought they knew, and that there's so much harder and

813
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: compassion and just showing who I truly am and how

814
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: strong I truly am. I think that's been amazing to

815
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: show people like what I've been through and now to

816
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: be able to turn that pain into such a huge

817
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: purpose and make a difference in so many others' lives

818
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: through that has been so empowering.

819
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's someone shared a quote with me the other

820
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: day that said something like the person who can see

821
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: beauty in everything is undefeated. And when I'm sitting with you,

822
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: I think of you, is that someone who's been able

823
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: to find a way of turning their pain into purpose

824
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: in so many different areas of their life. Like you

825
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: can't beat someone who does that, Like that's the strongest

826
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: person you'll ever meet, is someone who just can find

827
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: the meaning, the purpose, the beauty, the lesson in everything,

828
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: and then that person can rise from you know, anything

829
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: that they go to and everything that they go through.

830
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: And for me, I want to ask you, what boundary

831
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: have you put into your life that you think changed

832
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: your life? Have you set boundaries that you think changed

833
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: the trajectory of your life.

834
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of my life, I just

835
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: cared so much about what other people thought of me.

836
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: And I think an important message to other people as well,

837
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: as it doesn't matter what others think of you. What

838
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: matters most is what you think of yourself. And that

839
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: has been like a powerful message for me to remind

840
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: myself of. And now I just feel like I'm more

841
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: myself than ever and I want others to be able

842
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: to feel that they can do that too. And the

843
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: power of being vulnerable because before and how I just

844
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: always grew up thinking like, oh, like being strong and

845
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: being perfect, like that is you know it matters. But

846
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: being real and being authentic and being vulnerable and talking

847
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: about even the things that hurt are things that are

848
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: scary to talk about, like that really just opens the

849
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: door for others to feel safe to do the same thing.

850
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's been an important thing, an important

851
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: message of my life.

852
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I'm sitting here listening to you, I'm almost

853
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: thinking that. You know, when we're young, you all feel

854
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: you have to be one version of yourself because you

855
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: want to be the cool person or the person who

856
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: fits in, or the person who sets trends. And you

857
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: almost become this persona of who you think people like.

858
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: And then as we get older, it's almost like we

859
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: give ourselves permission every decade to be more of ourselves.

860
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: Like I feel so much more of who I am

861
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: three sixty today than I ever did when I was

862
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: eighteen years old. And it would be ridiculous to expect

863
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: your eighteen year old self to be your most complete

864
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: self because you haven't even had all the experiences of

865
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: life yet. And now I look back and I think, oh, yeah,

866
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: every decade is just about me becoming more of me

867
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: and giving myself permission to even be the parts of

868
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: myself that other people would have laughed at before or

869
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: poked fun out or not being interested in it. It's almost like, no,

870
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: I like this part of me and I'm happy to

871
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: live with it because it's not going anywhere. Yeah, Like

872
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: it's always going to be here. What's something you used

873
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: to think was love but now you realize it wasn't.

874
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: I was just watching it on TikTok the other day.

875
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: There's like this girl who's like an ADHD kind of influencer,

876
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: and she was just saying, like, how a lot of

877
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: us like confuse love, but it's actually the ADHD with

878
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: the hyper focus. So I feel like so many times

879
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: that I thought I was in love was just actually

880
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: my ADHD where it's like, yeah, you just like you

881
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: want that, like we love like dopamine dopamine rushed or something.

882
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: So it's kind of just like you think it's love,

883
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: but it was just actually your I don't know, but

884
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: then you get bored right after. So I think there

885
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: was just so many times like I thought it was

886
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: really love, but it was literally just because of the ADHD. Wow,

887
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: it was a really funny video.

888
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: I'll send you right now when people are watching.

889
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was just like, oh my god, I

890
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: love this. I sent it to Sony and my friends

891
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: have ADHD. I was like, this makes so much sense,

892
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: Like so many times I thought I was in love

893
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: and it was not at all. This was literally just

894
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: the ADHD.

895
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: Well there's poor guys. Sorry guys, that's so funny.

896
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: Wow. So because you get hyper focused but then you

897
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: get bored quickly. Yeah, it was that you could get

898
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: fixated on someone, you totally head over heels for them,

899
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: and then tomorrow.

900
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: It's like you forget they exist. Wow, forget?

901
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because another thing with the ADHD is like if

902
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: it's out of sight, it's out of mind, Like you'll

903
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: just people, even objects anything like if it's not there,

904
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: you just it's called object permanence, Like you just don't

905
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: even realize the exists anymore. So sorry, guys.

906
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: Does that affect any other of your life? Like do

907
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: you have to be mindful of it now that you're

908
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: married in a mom And does it affect life still

909
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: today or not?

910
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: Like with Carter because I love him around for him,

911
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: but yeah, with other parts of my life. That's why

912
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: I did this show actually with YouTube and I partner

913
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: with Google on this and it's called Inclusive by Design,

914
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: and it's literally a show that teaches you how to

915
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: make inclusive spaces in your home, in your office, or

916
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: just in your life for people with ADHD. So that's

917
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: something that I've been like learning a lot about, which

918
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: has been so interesting and so much fun.

919
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: That is interesting, I mean, it's it's it's brilliant though,

920
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: because I feel like found all these tools and principles

921
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: or concepts that you understand about how your brain works,

922
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: and therefore you can actually create a space in a

923
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: way that fulfills you and you know, makes a difference

924
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: in the morning rather than waking up feeling reactive to

925
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: whatever you go through. What are some of the rhythms

926
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: and routines you've had to put into place that help

927
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: you thrive with your ADHD. I mean we see in

928
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: the documentary, I mean you're performing in front of thousands

929
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: of people, You're rehearsing, you're writing. You know, it's it's stressful.

930
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: We see moments of you breaking down as well, Like,

931
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: what are the routines you've had to set up that

932
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: have allowed you to thrive at this level for this long.

933
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: A lot of putting systems in place, a lot of

934
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: like coming to organize explaining people on my team, what do.

935
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: You have to say to them? Like, what do you

936
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: say to someone? Your team's wonderful by the way they

937
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 2: thank you, They're amazing, Like everyone's got such great energy,

938
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: But like, what do you have to say to them

939
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: to explain what they're going to be in for because

940
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: they may not have had that experience with you.

941
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, how just how just like certain systems need to

942
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: be like I just need like things Like it's hard

943
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: to describe because there's so many things that I do

944
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: in different areas, like from like the music, the business,

945
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: all of it, the AFFCACI work, But it's really just

946
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: like I don't even know how to describe it right now.

947
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: But I'm also lucky that a lot of the people

948
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: on my team have ADHD as.

949
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: Well, so they get it.

950
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: They get it as well. And you know, we're we're

951
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: very creative, but we do need like systems and we

952
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: need people to understand that. And yeah, I don't even

953
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: know why I can't describe it right now.

954
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 3: No, I get it.

955
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: No, it's like, no, it's I'm intrigued because I think again,

956
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: there'll be lots of listeners who might be helped by

957
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: that because I think a lot of people are trying

958
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: to figure it out and are trying to thrive with ADHD.

959
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: We're seeing people being diagnosed, and I think, as you said,

960
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: you've become successful, you're reinventing yourself. You do a lot

961
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: of different things and you and you're doing that with ADHD,

962
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: and so the Yeah, my reason for asking was more

963
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: just so that people could learn some of those tricks,

964
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: but the documentary shows a lot of what you're working through,

965
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: so people can definitely what's there, Yeah, figure it out there?

966
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: All right, I've got a few last questions. I want

967
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: to ask you. What did you used to apologize for

968
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: that you no longer apologize for.

969
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: Trying to think what I would apologize for. Hmmm, I

970
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: feel like I've been unapologetic, Like I feel like that's

971
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: always I've lived my life.

972
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good answer, But.

973
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Maybe apologizing like like always having to be perfect, And

974
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: now I'm like, don't always have to be perfect, because

975
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: no one is perfect and what life is about and

976
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: then you can make a mistake, but you learn from

977
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: it and you grow from it. So I feel like

978
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: everything in life happens for a reason, and even if

979
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: you don't know what the reason today, you'll find out.

980
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: So you just have to like think about, like in life,

981
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: that everything is a journey and it's all just going

982
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: to bring you up to the next level of like

983
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: who you are in life. So yeah, it can be

984
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: hard sometimes, but it makes you stronger. I really believe that.

985
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: Paris. We were talking about this before before we started recording.

986
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: You posted a really you know, heartbreaking video of losing

987
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: your home earlier this year, and I had so many

988
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: friends lose home. I'm sure you had so many friends

989
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: lose home. It was it was you know, it was terrible.

990
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: And La is so large that when you're driving through

991
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: it you could even not see all of it. And

992
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people who are visiting La

993
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: would be like, where where were the fires? And it's

994
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: like LA's just shoes. There's so many areas that are

995
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 2: sadly completely torn down and torn apart. Losing a home

996
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: feels like one of the deepest grieving that you go

997
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: through in life. To your memories, everything else. Talked to

998
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: me about what it felt like to even go through

999
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: that this year, and of course it was such a

1000
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: shock for everyone.

1001
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: It was terrifying. You know, just to see just so

1002
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: much devastation. I've grown up in La my whole life,

1003
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: and just to see so many people lose everything was heartbreaking.

1004
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: And the night after the first night of you know,

1005
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: the wildfires here, my husband and I are our kids,

1006
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: and we were just eating breakfast, watching the news, and

1007
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, we see this woman

1008
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: standing in front of this house and Carter looks and

1009
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: he's like, that is our house, the blue door in Malibu,

1010
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: and I looked. I was like, no, it's not. And

1011
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: then I saw the address and it was just like

1012
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: in the background, just like our house, just in flames,

1013
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: burnt down to the ground, completely gone, and that's how

1014
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: we found out about it, and just, you know, right away,

1015
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: I was just thinking of all of you know, the

1016
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: memories that I had with my babies there, all of

1017
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: the art that we made together, family heirlooms, just so

1018
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: many you know, things that were irreplaceable, and just so

1019
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: many memories, you know, all gone. And then I just

1020
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: started thinking about all of the other you know, families

1021
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: and mothers and children who had lost everything. And then

1022
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: I had nowhere to go that night, and I was

1023
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: just completely heartbroken and I reached out to my team,

1024
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: Rebecca who's the head of my impact called eleven eleven Impact,

1025
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: which is my impact arm of my company, and it's like,

1026
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: what can I do to help? And immediately went over

1027
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: to Baby to Baby and started helping them with just

1028
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: packing up supplies for families, and then went down to

1029
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: Pasadena Humane Society and fostered a dog and started filming

1030
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: all the pets there that had been lost in the

1031
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: fires and they didn't have callers, so just reuniting them

1032
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: with their families and posting them up so that people

1033
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: would know about them, and making donations to them as well.

1034
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: And then called up Hilton, I'm like, what else can

1035
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: we do? Like, we need rooms for these people. They

1036
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: have nowhere to you know, know where to live now,

1037
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: So put a bunch of families up in homes and

1038
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: then started the whole thing online. We raised like one

1039
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars within two days, and then

1040
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: partnered with GoFundMe and then raised even more money and

1041
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: then gave fifty small owned businesses women businesses that lost

1042
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: their businesses in the fire all big grants and to rebuild,

1043
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: and then went out and been visiting in the Altadena

1044
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: and just helped with the Altadena girls and built this

1045
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: living lounge where it's like this whole place where all

1046
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: these girls can go and hang out and it's like

1047
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: really pink and beautiful and so fun. And we just

1048
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: they just had an opening with like two weeks ago,

1049
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: and the girls were all there. So it's just so

1050
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: amazing just to see how much happiness it brought them.

1051
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: So even though you know, losing our home, I immediately just

1052
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: started thinking about everyone else who'd been affected by it

1053
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: and seeing what I could do to make a difference.

1054
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: And you know, it's people are still rebuilding, you know,

1055
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: even though the media is not talking about it anymore

1056
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: because the news cycles move so fast, people are still

1057
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, trying to rebuild their lives and we are

1058
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: still actively working with them to help that happen. So

1059
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: it's been traumatizing, but also just seeing all the communities

1060
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: come together and so many people supporting each other. I

1061
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: thought it was such a beautiful thing to see.

1062
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was incredible to see the resilience

1063
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: of lading La get such a bad rap sometimes for

1064
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: being weak or soft, to being you know, to whatever,

1065
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: and everyone was out on the streets helping each other.

1066
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: There was just so much community and there was so

1067
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: much camaraderie and everyone showed up and it was all

1068
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: the examples that you were beautifully involved in and just

1069
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: so much just I really felt alive here, like it

1070
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: felt that everyone was trying so hard to help each other. Yeah,

1071
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: and it was so beautiful to see the city come

1072
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: together even though it was, you know, extremely tragic and

1073
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: traumatic for everyone who went through it. The fact that

1074
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: people showed up and served in everyone else's time of need,

1075
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: I was so needed and I couldn't agree with you more.

1076
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: The work continues. It's not solved, and it's not over,

1077
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: and it keeps going. Paris. You've been amazing today. As always,

1078
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: I love talking to you. I learned so much from you.

1079
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: I was getting to know you the terminal. When I

1080
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: read your memory, I transformed everything I understood about you.

1081
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: And when I saw this documentary and even today after

1082
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: talking to you about it, I feel the same way

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: that I don't know how you did it, and I

1084
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: don't know how it felt, but I do know that

1085
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: it's extremely inspiring and it's going to give a lot

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: of courage to a lot of people. And I really

1087
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 2: hope that it saves a lot of people from some pain.

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: And I'm grateful that someone like you is able to

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: put their story out there in a way to uplift

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: and empower others and own their narrative and reclaim it.

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00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: It's beyond needed. And I hope so many young men

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00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: and women wats the documentary radio memoir and recognize that

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00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: their lowest point doesn't have to be a continuation of

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 2: their life, and that they can transform it and turn

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00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: it into something beautiful. And I want to end with

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: asking you we had to redo this because it's your

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00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: second time. We're doing a quick fire around with you

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: of some fun and some profound questions. So these are

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00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: your fun questions. So what trend from the early two

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01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: thousands do you wish the world would bring back? And

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01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: what trends should stay buried forever?

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01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: I love seeing just so many people inspired by all

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: of the trends that I created back in the two thousands,

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01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: Just seeing just like all of the you know, things

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01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: that are blinked out, all the slogan teas, just the

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Speaker 1: the motorol eraser flip phones, just all of the different

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01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: styles of outfits. Like the fashion was just so much

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01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: fun back then. One thing I don't like is that hardy,

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: which I've noticed some people are wearing again. I can't

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Speaker 1: with it. It's not into it.

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Speaker 3: I love that answer.

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Speaker 2: We all wore had haarty because of you. Yeah, I'm

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: glad we didn't have that many pictures taken of us

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: back then.

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Speaker 3: Yes I did.

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you did, but that's we all

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: did it. So I'm glad there's no pictures of me

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Speaker 2: and Ed Heartie. That's what I'm saying. What's one headline

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Speaker 2: from that decade that shocks you because it was so

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Speaker 2: far from the truth.

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Speaker 1: There was a story that said I was dating Michael Jackson,

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: which I was. I've grown up with him my whole life.

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Speaker 1: My mom and him were best friends since they were thirteen,

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: so he was like a family to me. So when

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Speaker 1: I heard that rumor, I was like, you guys will

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01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: literally make up anything that is ridiculous.

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01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: That is bizarre. Okay, all right, when you said that's

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Speaker 2: hot for the first time, did you realize what you'd created?

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Speaker 1: I was like seven years old. My sister would always

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01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: say with me like it was something she actually said

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01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: at first, and then I was like, I love that

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01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: so I started saying it a lot, and then when

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Speaker 1: I got The Simple Life, then I had it trademarked,

1134
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: so I actually own that's hot. But back then I

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: would never have known it would turn into such a

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Speaker 1: pop culture.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely infinitely iconic.

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01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the infinite icon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you and Nicole did The Simple Life today,

1140
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: what job would you want to try? First?

1141
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Well, we did for Peacock the Anniversary special, which was

1142
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: so much fun, and we went back to Arkansas and

1143
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: went and visited the family we stayed with and all

1144
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: the people we worked for. Was so much fun. But

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: if we had to do something again, I think it

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01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: would be fun to be like nursery school teachers because

1147
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: we both love kids and we're so fun with them

1148
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: and they're I love how kids just say so many

1149
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: funny things. I think that would be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I love that. That's a great answer. You've had an

1151
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: incredible multi decade career. What is the most full circle

1152
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: moment that you've had so far?

1153
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Being in DC and passing my first federal bill to

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: protect children, Like that's something I've done a lot of

1155
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: in my life that I'm proud of, but doing that

1156
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 1: work has been just the most healing and empowering work

1157
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: of my life. And I'm extremely proud that I'm able

1158
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: to protect so many children and to change fifteen S

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Speaker 1: day laws as well, which as a little girl, I

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Speaker 1: never would have thought it would be possible that I

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Speaker 1: could ever do something like that.

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: But how hard was that to get instated? And how

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01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: was it already not in stated?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's.

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: Amazing, Like that's incredible. I mean that's huge.

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Speaker 3: Thank you like that.

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Speaker 2: How hard was it to get something like that into action?

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot of work, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: continue doing the work. It's been four years of going

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Speaker 1: back and forth to DC and speaking with all of

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Speaker 1: the senators and legislators and telling my story and bringing

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Speaker 1: other survivors with me to tell their stories. And it's

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Speaker 1: something that my team and I are, you know, working

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis because all children should be protected

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: all around the world. And this is work that I'm

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: not only doing in the States and doing an on

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01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: global level because this is unfortunately something that is still

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01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: happening today and you know, hundreds of children have died

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Speaker 1: in the name of treatment and it needs to stop.

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Speaker 1: And you know, no one was talking about it before

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01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: I was, and now it's turned into an entire movement

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: where survivors are finally being believed and it's been so

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: validating for so many of them, and it's made such

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: a difference. So that's just been something that I can't

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01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: As a little girl, I never would have thought that

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: was possible. But proving anything as possible, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, that's beyond powerful. Sounds incredible, like that's to be

1188
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: able to have that impact of that scale and protect

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: so many people coming forward, and if we don't protect

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Speaker 2: our kids, then what are we doing? It's to do

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01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: that is That's that's really really powerful. I can't wait

1192
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: to continue to see you do that internationally, especially because

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: sadly it's such a global issue.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's the last version we ask your Paris and my

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01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: last question is what's a piece of advice that has

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: kept you going through all the incredible highs and the

1198
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: incredible lows till this day. What's the advice, what's the insight,

1199
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: what's the wisdom that you carry You.

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: Can survive anything if you have heart, and that you

1201
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: spread love and kindness throughout the world, and that everything

1202
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: in life comes back to you. What you put out

1203
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: really comes back to you and that people should just

1204
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: lead with kindness always and the kindness is iconic.

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01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: I love that kindness is iconic. I'm going to say

1206
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: that all the time now because you said that. And

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01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: if anyone sees me wearing anything blingy, it's because Paris

1208
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: told me that because I shine a light, I'm allowed

1209
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: to do that. Exactly, you might start seeing me in secret.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wore today because you're trying to light

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: so I was like, the light reflects on the lay

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: and we're both late.

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Speaker 2: I love that, Paris Hilton. I'm so excited for people

1214
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 2: to watch Infinite icon today again. You've illuminated so much

1215
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: hidden meaning behind so many moments. I learned so much

1216
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: when every I'm with you. I'm so excited for the

1217
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: world to get to see all of these incredible messages.

1218
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: And I continue to be a fan and supporter and

1219
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: feel so fortunate that I've got to know you, and

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what's next. Thank you for

1221
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: your time and energy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Means so much coming from you,

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01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy and I can't wait to do

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: it again.

1225
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Absolutely, we'll have you back in two years.

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Speaker 3: I Love SA.

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Speaker 2: If you love this episode, you will also love my

1228
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: interview with Kendall Jenna on setting boundaries to increase happiness

1229
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: and healing. You're in a child You.

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01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: Could be reading something that someone is saying about you

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01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: and being like, that is so unfair because that's not

1232
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: who I am and that really gets to me sometimes.

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01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like,

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: but I know who I am. Does anything else matter?