1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Everyone, Please welcome Pamela. Pamela, welcome to BAT your happy hour. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to meet you. Guys. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: I watched your season. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: Oh god, yes, Joe, I watched you because the first 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: night I was eliminated, and I know that you were eliminated. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, no, no, no, it worked out for he's 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 4: doing just so it's quite fabulous. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: But I absolutely loved you. I live in Chicago. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh do you where about? 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: I've lived just next door to Aprilville. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: It's called Roar. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: It's the second largest city in Illinois. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, we're in the boonies. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I used to. We had a 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: few restaurants out there that we delivered, uh, delivered produce too, 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: back in the day when I was yeah, yeah, oh 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, wow, okay you are man. Well, I don't 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: know what's wrong with the Chicago people. We can't last 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: very long after. So let's let's hear a little bit. 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Let's hear a little bit about more about yourself. What 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: do you do? What are you doing to day to day? 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: What do you do for work? You know what? 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: I used to own a salon about twenty years ago. 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: And I ended up. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: My daughter met her husband at my salon, and after 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: a couple of years, I said, I'm not doing this. 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: My kids are out of college, so I gave it up. 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: And that's when my daughter got married, my son got married. 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: I got started getting grandkids and they've been my job. 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: So I got it. 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Such a family day. 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, how and how long have you been single? 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: You know what? My husband passed away January twenty seventeen. 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: Get your It was pres date cancer. So I'm just 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: going to reiterate that's such an amazing test to take, 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: and he didn't take it, and he literally apologized up 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: until he passed away. I'm so sorry. I should have been, 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: you know, better at this. But anyway, we were married 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: for forty almost forty seven years. We met when I 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 3: was sixteen, he was seventeen and high school sweethearts. I 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: went to his prom, he went to my prom. We 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: got married in nineteen seventy and I had two great kids, 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: seventy two and nineteen seventy three, so I'm so lucky. 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: He was an amazing husband and father, and about twenty 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: years before he passed away, we decided to add some 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: spice because our kids I hope my kids aren't watching. Well, 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: we I didn't decide to add spice because the kids 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: were in college in a way, so we pretended we 50 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: were virgins again. We rediscovered. Honest to god, it worked. 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: We rediscovered. We start all over again, because come on, 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: we were in high school when we met. 53 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: We did we knew nothing right. 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have to say, I'm just so surprised 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: to how this story has evolved. Please keep please keep going. 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm telling you it saved our marriage because the intimacy 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: between two people is more important than anything in the world. 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: There's nothing that's going to keep you guys together more 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: than that intimacy. So even if it's ten, fifteen, twenty years, 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: spice it up again. 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: All that. 62 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: So you guys were virgins twice together, you were virgins like. 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: That, and your reborn virgins, born again, born again virgins 64 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty years ago. 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we really studied. 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 3: I mean we did films, we did books, and when 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: I got married, my education was my mom handed me 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: that mom and dad handed me this book. Everything you 69 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: need to know about sex, but we're afraid to ask. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: that was my training. 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: So you just like by like reborn versions. You just 72 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: med me like took it upon yourselfs like relearn about 73 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 4: sexual intimacy. 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I kind it's amazing. 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that for you. 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: What a way to celebrate your like twentieth anniversary together. 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: Honey, We're gonna watch a movie tonight. 78 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, not that kind of movie. That kind of movie. 79 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: It's that Titanic. 80 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna watch something else, all right, great, great, okay, So. 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: How do you know you're latching? 82 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 5: Is just I think? 83 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So how did you get on The Golden Bachelor? 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: Okay, another fabulous story. So in twenty nineteen, of course, 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: I have never missed an episode. I started in my 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: sixties fifties or yeah, fifties watching The Bachelor. So when 88 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: it started to come up that they were looking for 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: senior citizens, I'm like. 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Oh hell oh, hell yeah. And when they called me 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: this is. 92 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: My mom was ninety five and she passed away February eighth, 93 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: and five days later, the Bachelor called me wow, and 94 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: I felt like, oh my god, I'm going through this 95 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: horrible situation and there's something special to look forward to, 96 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: and they just passed me on and passed me on. 97 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: And I was so shocked when I got. 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: The final call, because come on, people, I'm seventy five. 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 5: Are you sevent Wait? Were you the oldest one there? 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I was. I was older than Sandra. 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you have very, very like youthful energy. 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you, what is I would 103 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: not have. 104 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 5: Guests you're seventy five at all? 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. Let me tell you. 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: I do a massage therapy, cryo therapy, light therapy, I 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: get facials, I. 108 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: Do everything I can. 109 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: I if you watch the Beverly Housewives. 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 6: No, the. 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: New York one, I do. 112 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: I watch the New York One. 113 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Okay, but they tell you certain things that they do 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: to keep themselves young. 115 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I learned. 116 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: I learned cryo therapy was helpful for inflammation. So I 117 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: walk a run, I can do anything. I have really 118 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: really good because I was tripping and falling, and so 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: I decided I needed to change, and so I started 120 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: doing massage therapy weekly. 121 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm getting one tonight. 122 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: He's coming over to my house and I'm getting a 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: massage because it keeps my muscles from Atrophyine. I mean, 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: at this age, you don't use those muscles. You know, 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: you can't walk, you can't talk, you can't do anything. 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: That was a really nice compliment. 128 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: Oh. 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: Of course, Joe's very into natural ways to help the 131 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: aging process, like he does a lot of like hot 132 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: cold therapy and that's bad. 133 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I would definitely recommend it because I'm super lazy. 134 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: I do wait train, but I have somebody and it's 135 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: twenty minutes twice a week, so I'm a I am 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: super lazy about my exercise. So I have specific places 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: that I go and they take care of me and 138 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't. 139 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: Have to do any I'm will say it. 140 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: I'll like book myself into like a workout class, like 141 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: the night before, so that was the morning comes. I 142 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: have to like hold myself accountable and go work out 143 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: because so cozy and bad. 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 6: But when I go to the gym, it's so hard. 145 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: But it's a good idea to start now in your fifties. 146 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, you're in your thirties. 147 00:07:53,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Right for twenty yet not yet? Okay, So what were 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts that first night out of the limo? What 149 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Gary when you first meet him? 150 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: Thank god, Oh my god, I was sitting between Edith 151 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: and uh Marina and gorgeous women and nervous as hell. 152 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: But I was so excited to meet him because I 153 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: had seen him on TV and I was so excited 154 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: to meet him. And again I've heard this from the 155 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: other women. It's getting out of a limo and you're. 156 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: At the beachher mansion. 157 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 158 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: The crazy thing was Edith had done a confetti. 159 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: Thing and it went everywhere. 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to wait thirty to forty five minutes 161 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: to get out. She was the first one. I was 162 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: the second one to get out. But I was sitting 163 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: there going, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. 164 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: Because they had to. 165 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: They had to clean it up. Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh. 166 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 4: They should have just gotten like a gigantic, like superpower vacuum. 167 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: Well it was wet, so everything. It was almost like 168 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: you had to pick it up with tweezersers. Yeah, coming up. 169 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how did that? How did that first conversation go? 170 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: Was there and he sparked, there, what do you think? 171 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I thought he was super handsome. He lives eighty five 172 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: miles from me, his lakehouse. 173 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: And. 174 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: I initially because the whole time that I was there 175 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: waiting to meet him, those three or four or five days. 176 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: I just knew that he and I were going to 177 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: end up together. That was in my head. And I 178 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: think that's why being eliminated was so difficult, because he 179 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: was tall, handsome, you know, an Indiana guy, you know, 180 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: normal regular guy. So I really thought we had. 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 5: On paper, like, it's definitely a fit. 182 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: It was, oh my god. 183 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: You know the our kids went to Iowa University. 184 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: Have wow. 185 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: You know, Iowa was a big, big part of my 186 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: kid's education, so and so was his. 187 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know. 188 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: I I just assumed I would be the one. 189 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: Did you did you not get Did you get any 190 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: time in the house after that initial yes, a little entrance, 191 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: you got more time with them? Yes? And how did 192 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: that conversation flow? 193 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: Horrible? 194 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Really? Okay? 195 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: All right, okay. 196 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: So the thing was, I was going to bring up 197 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: the fact that you can learn a lot about somebody 198 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: by what they choose to eat. I decided that I 199 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: would present Gary with a plate of a hot dog, 200 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: a broad worst and a pig and a blanket, and 201 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: see what he would pick. 202 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: Was the hot dog in like a hot dog bun? 203 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: Yes, everything was in fun and stuff. So it was 204 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: in a dome, you know, so I had to lift 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: up the dome, and when I looked at him, I 206 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: saw this look on his face like, oh no, she 207 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: didn't what what? 208 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: Why? Why? 209 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I think it was I think maybe I was a 210 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: bit uncomfortable after making that choice. 211 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: I was. 212 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: I think I was a bit uncomfortable because the topic 213 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: was something that it wasn't easy to talk about hot 214 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, and then it just kind of and 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: then thank god Ellen came over and grabbed him, and 216 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: I have never felt so much relief in my life 217 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: because I felt like that initial initial sitting down with him, 218 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: talking to him, looking into his eyes, I didn't get. 219 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: That you didn't have like a connection. 220 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: I did not. 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to because you know you, like you said, 222 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: like you kind of romanticize the idea of him before 223 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: getting out there, but like you just never know because 224 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: you just don't know these people from Adam and then 225 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: like there's thirty other women there and it's just I 226 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: think that first night's just so difficult. I think a 227 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: lot of it truly is just like luck of the draw, 228 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: Like you know, you just don't know, Like like it 229 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: is it's hard, but like you don't hit it off 230 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: with Gary, But how about any of the other women, 231 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: if you made friends with any of the other women. 232 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Faith, I gave her some advice, and I think 233 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: she took it. We were talking about Yes, she is 234 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: in everything, she's in a band, she does teaching, she 235 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: did his horses, she has everything and I and I 236 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: said are you happy? And she goes, well, I said, 237 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: is there something that you could eliminate? Because it sounds 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: to me like you're not enjoying your life. 239 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: And she was. 240 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: Talking about teaching and got to hate to leave my 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: teaching job because these kids are relying on me. And 242 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: I said, but how does that make you feel? She goes, 243 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: I don't like it? And I said quit. Yeah, and 244 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: I found she did that she had Now, Okay, she 245 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: probably didn't get it from me. 246 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: No, well you might have. 247 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: Still like that conversation could have sparked some solid leash 248 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: for sure. You know, sometimes it just takes someone to 249 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: ask the right question for you to go huh, yeah, 250 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: maybe I shouldn't do that. 251 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: Well. 252 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: It was so sweet because when I saw her women 253 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: tell all. She came up to me and she hugged 254 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: me and she said, she says, you're my best friend, 255 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: and then you gotta live it. So we had, you know, 256 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: And then Theresa was in my car and I just 257 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: loved her because she was more interested in everybody else 258 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: than she wasn't herself, And I thought that was a 259 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: wonderful trait to have. 260 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts in the 261 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: finale and the whole Teresa and Leslie thing of it all? 262 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, A little cringey, a little sad, a 263 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: little oh my god. If I had been in that place, 264 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: how what I have acted? 265 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 266 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: You know, you never know how upsetting something like that 267 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: can be. You've been invested, you've been away from family, 268 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: you've been away from your phone, and now you're being 269 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: pushed into these situations or not pushed, but you find 270 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: yourself in these situations and the only people you can 271 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: rely on is a bachelor and the girls in the mansion. 272 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: There's nobody else, you know, to really to listen to. 273 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: So but I was thrilled for Teresa. 274 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: She invites me to her weddinge, watching it as a viewer, Yes, 275 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: who did you think it was going to be? You know, 276 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: I for a. 277 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: Long long time I thought it was Leslie because she's 278 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: very vibrant and very She'll keep any man excited with 279 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: things to do and talk about. But the closer I got, 280 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: the more Theresa really keyed in on him and his 281 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: needs and what he needed, and she just really focused. 282 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: And I think her relationship with her husband who had 283 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: passed away that was key to her responding to Gary 284 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: so well. 285 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 5: So I really connected over their shared experience. 286 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, And there's something incredibly intimate about 287 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: that kind of an experience. You know, the vores. You 288 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: can bash your husband, but when you're a widow, what 289 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: are you going to say? 290 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 291 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: People are They kind of get bored when you start 292 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: talking about your late husband because you know it's your 293 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: late husband. He's not here, why are you talking about him? 294 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: So you don't feel comfortable about bringing him up. But 295 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: I think because both of them lost their their spouses, 296 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: they felt comfortable about talking about them. It's not always 297 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: easy as a widow. You you have to pretend you're 298 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: not a widow, because first of all, you're invisible as 299 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: an older person, and if you're a widow, it's like oh, ultra. 300 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: But this show has produced a confidence. I walk into 301 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: a room and it's like, Hi. 302 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: Well, I'm here at the party's good start. 303 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: That's amazing feeling. 304 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: Of I'm not just a widow anymore. 305 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: And I feel like a lot of the women we've 306 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: talked to have talked about, you know, their new sense 307 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: of confidence and their ability to connect with people and 308 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: you know meet hopefully new roomen to partners and friends. 309 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: And we did hear. 310 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: That you made a special new friend on social media? 311 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes, I did. I got a text 312 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: or somebody got a hold of me on Instagram. Okay, 313 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: she's only six, she's six. She's six years old. And 314 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: her mother sent a video to me of her when 315 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: I got eliminated and she turned the camera onto her 316 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: daughter and her daughter was crying. But I wanted him 317 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: to pick her, and her mom goes, Lissy, why why 318 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: did you want her to be picked? Because she's so pretty. 319 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: So we started texting and she has sent me videos. 320 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: I'm expecting something in the mail because Lizzie drew me 321 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: a picture. She literally connected with me from never meeting 322 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: me or never seen maybefore. I'm probably, you know, almost 323 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: seventy years older than her, and the relationship that we 324 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: have is and during the Women Tell All, I sent 325 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: her a secret message. 326 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: Really, what was it? 327 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: Well? When they when Jesse said, Pamela, I went, I 328 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: went like this, and I told her how that this 329 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: the v. 330 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: Was for her, for those for our listeners, just because 331 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: they can't they can't see the symbol. If you watched 332 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: the woman tell her, you might remember. But Pamela's holding 333 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: up like a peace sign, but sideways, side ways. 334 00:18:54,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And she was so so she videotape 335 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: that that she was watching me do that to her, and. 336 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: She was like, oh, that's fun. Little social social media 337 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: combined with a little national television. I really can't connect people, 338 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: you know. 339 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was so cool. 340 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: I never it never occurred to me. 341 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for all the the men with private gets 342 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: to call me welcome. I have to tell you. My 343 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: son said to me. My son Rob said to me, 344 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: he says, Mom, what if the only reason that you 345 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: were on the batcher was to connect with one little girl? 346 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 3: I said, then it's all worth it. Yeah, just a 347 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: small connection one hundred years from now, fifty years from now, 348 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: is that little girl gonna say, gosh I remember? You know, 349 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was just for me because 350 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: my grain, my kids were like, oh really, Grandma, Oh 351 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: my god. 352 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to be teased. 353 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: Please don't do this, Please don't do this. You know, 354 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: they were little sick skeptics. 355 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 5: So so heartwarming to hear about. You know, all the 356 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 5: connections I get made from the show. 357 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: I feel like the golden butterl of women all have 358 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 4: like wonderful stories about connecting with football. 359 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: And honestly, you looked great during it. You look great 360 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: night one, and you did a good job, and honestly, 361 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: you beat out a lot of women for that position, 362 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: and we have you on this podcast. So Pamela, honestly, 363 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on Happy Hour and 364 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: sharing your story. 365 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: My pleasure and best wishes to you on your wedding 366 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: and your marriage. You know, I wish you nothing but 367 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: re Virginine again. Thank you so much you guys, it 368 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: was such a pleasure. Honestly, I'm thrilled to have met 369 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: you and to be in your presence and hamiderful, wonderful holiday. 370 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: Okay you, thank you you as well. 371 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Christina. Welcome the Happy Hour. 372 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Hi, so good to be here. So good to see 373 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: you guys. 374 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: Good to see you too. 375 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: We got the chance to meet you at the Bachelor 376 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: mansion for the finale. You went and watched the finale 377 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: in the audience of Golden Bachelor, and correct. 378 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was just at the mansion. 379 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: You were just at the mansion. 380 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I know a few of your ladies were there, 381 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: but we got the chance. 382 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: We had dinner together, we had drinks. It was so fun. 383 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 6: It was so fun. It was such a great night. 384 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 6: It was just the energy level and everything was just 385 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 6: off the charts. It was just every everything was about 386 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: fun and having a good time. 387 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 388 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 389 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: I spoke with you for a little bit and you 390 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: and Joan were telling me about an idea for a 391 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: show that you guys want to pitch. Am I right, 392 00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: do you remember that? 393 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: Of course? Of course. 394 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 5: I want to know what it is. 395 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 6: Well, you know, first of all, I just think this 396 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 6: whole franchise stuff with the Golden Bachelor being included is 397 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 6: obviously from things you see on Facebook and stuff is 398 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 6: gaining a lot of traction. 399 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: People are really happy about it. 400 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you see everybody like talking to 401 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 6: people a little older, and people talking about dating and 402 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 6: what's going on in our age group, and so you know, 403 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 6: looking for things that maybe are maybe a little more 404 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 6: age appropriate. So one idea we had, we had a couple, 405 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 6: but the one was like, because you have such a 406 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 6: fan base with these women, now that not to pick 407 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 6: just one bachelor rep, but pick three. And then you 408 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: have the guys still come in in the limo and 409 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: everybody meets and greets when they go in the house. 410 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 6: They go in the three ladies let's say three too, 411 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: I think three is a good number. And you go 412 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 6: into each rooms and then they do the speed dating 413 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 6: thing and so each you know, a guy comes through 414 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 6: when he does, you know, five minutes with this person 415 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 6: five minutes and that, and they get to ask questions 416 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: and such, and at the end of that then everybody 417 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 6: rates each other. So then the producers get to go, oh, 418 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 6: this person like, this person best, this person best, and 419 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 6: they put people together and have one on one dates, 420 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 6: half day dates, real dates like ice cream in the 421 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 6: movies or walking on the beach or you know, real 422 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 6: stuff that people do. And then at the end, the 423 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 6: woman can either give the fellow a rose but they 424 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: still have the rows, or she can say, you know, 425 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 6: I think I want to go with my number two choice. 426 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: So then that leaves that guy out there for one 427 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 6: of the other two women and she gets to go 428 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 6: to number two. I mean to me, it's creating constant 429 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 6: drama and anticipation, and that's kind of the base of 430 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 6: the idea. 431 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 4: Wait, I have a question though, So then what happens 432 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: if so let's say you're one of the three Baucherretts, right, 433 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 4: what happens if you like one of the guys and 434 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: they like you, but they end up going let's say Jones, 435 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: the other bachelrette, they end up going on a date 436 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: with Joan instead. 437 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: So is that like a. 438 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: Good conflict or is that gonna like hurt people's feelings? 439 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 6: Well, you know, the maturity level of the women is 440 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: a little bit different, and you go into it knowing 441 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 6: the rules, I think people would be okay. I think 442 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: where you're gonna get the real big drama is when 443 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 6: it gets down towards the end. 444 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: So that's I mean true, it's true. 445 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: Throwing it out there, it's like. 446 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 6: Giving somebody giving them something to think about instead of 447 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 6: staying with the same format. And I mean, they could 448 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 6: expound upon it in all different ways. But that was 449 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 6: just one of our ideas. 450 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: To kind of get it based. 451 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: Going because some of these women are so popular. Yeah, see, 452 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 6: you'd hate to see only one get picked, you know, I. 453 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: Know that is true. 454 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: It is so hard, you know that they can only 455 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: choose one bachelorette, one bachelor. 456 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: We did have Did you watch Gabby and Rachel's season 457 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 5: any show? 458 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 459 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: So yeah, they had two bachelorettes in that season and 460 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: so kind of be a similar esque. 461 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, except these Well, I think those two girls were 462 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 6: pretty much good friends. But I mean, we have such 463 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 6: a camaraderie among all of us, it's I think that 464 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 6: would be a beneficial. 465 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: Thing for it. 466 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 467 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my that's my my thought. 468 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 5: I love it. 469 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: I love that you guys are coming up with such fun, 470 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 4: creative ideas for the franchise, and that you've kind of 471 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: become invested in the show the same way that we 472 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: have now having been on it. 473 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: Yes, very much so. 474 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 6: In fact, I told them I wanted to be a 475 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 6: consultant that, you know, because the producers and people, you 476 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 6: guys are all pretty young and so understanding kind of 477 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 6: were a more mature mind. We've all lived like two 478 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 6: or three lives, right, and it's like understanding where that 479 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 6: kind of a mind is coming from. That sometimes maybe 480 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 6: you know, there needs a couple of ladies to consult with. 481 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: Wow, I thought, there. 482 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 5: Change, let's hired higher. 483 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: How don't you care getting hired? 484 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 6: I just really want to help this, this whole concept 485 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 6: go forward. I think it's hugely important and it's really 486 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 6: been beneficial. 487 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, all of you ladies seem to feel so passionate about, 488 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: you know, the show and the message of the show 489 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: and the impact that it's having, which is so wonderful. 490 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 6: Well, did I think in my lifetime that at seventy 491 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 6: four years old, I'd be doing this, that I'd be 492 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 6: on a TV show, I'd be dating, I'd be talking 493 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 6: about the life of a single older person. And you know, 494 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 6: it's been interesting some of the people, the questions they 495 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 6: ask me and such, because. 496 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm up there and so I how are you 497 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: wildest dreams? Would I think that this would happen? 498 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: How old are you? 499 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: Seventy four? 500 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Okay? And what do you do? You do you still work? 501 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: No? 502 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: Gosh no? And what did you what did you used 503 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: to do? 504 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: I retired at sixty six from Nesley Foods. I retired 505 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: as a purchase manager. 506 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: I had worked at another food company and then I 507 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 6: worked at Disney, and then I worked at Fox for 508 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 6: a while and that ended back up in the food industry, 509 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 6: but always in kind of like the supply chain operation 510 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 6: side of it. 511 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: Got it? And how how did you manage your way 512 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: onto the Golden Bachelor? 513 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: I did see that first ad. 514 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 6: I went and I applied, and I was like on 515 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 6: my fourth interview to go downtown LA for a face 516 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: to face when COVID happened. So I'm thinking, oh my god, 517 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 6: I'm sixty eight, this is never going to happen for 518 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: me now. So when they came out and announced it 519 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 6: again and went higher in the age range, it was like, 520 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 6: of course I'm going to apply, so because I was 521 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: really really disappointed when the first time it had to ceased. 522 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So let's so let's go back to 523 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: that tonight one you get out of the limo, you 524 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: meet Gary for the first time. What are your thoughts? 525 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: How is the spark between you two? 526 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, you know, in a Good Morning America, 527 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 6: he was introduced and he's you know, obviously everybody is 528 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 6: a very handsome guy, great personality, And when I saw 529 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: all the things that he enjoyed, literally, I had something 530 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 6: in common with him and every aspect of it, and 531 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 6: so I went very hopeful. 532 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: And even my daughter called me and she goes, Mom, 533 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: this guy's like so made for you. And because my kids, 534 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: you know, I just I don't. I don't. 535 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 6: I'm not very successful in my dating life just finding 536 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 6: someone with my same energy level and my same interests. 537 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 6: So I went in very hopeful and it was such 538 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 6: a crazy night just to think that I was there 539 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 6: and that whole environment and then actually like meeting him 540 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 6: was was really awesome. 541 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that first I can be pretty overwhelming. What 542 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: like did you when you you and Gary had that 543 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: first conversation, did you feel anything? 544 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: Like? 545 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts about him? 546 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 6: I was like ecstatic because in person he's even more 547 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: handsome and he was so friendly because I got out 548 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 6: and I kind of came at a wrong angle and 549 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 6: he was so cute of kind of just kind of 550 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 6: inching me to the side to like you need to 551 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 6: be stepping here, and it's like, oh my god, because 552 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: I wasn't thinking anything. It was like I needed help 553 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 6: just to like talk, so and it was wonderful. 554 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: It was really really fun. 555 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: Coming out of the limo is such like a wild experience. 556 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: I remember I had a stepping stool. I had like 557 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: a little prop for my intro, and I stepped out 558 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: of the car. It was the first one out of 559 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: my limo, and I swung back and I knocked the 560 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: limo with my step stool, and then I was walking. 561 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Like 562 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 5: it's such an overwhelming night. 563 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: You're looking around, everyone's looking at you, and they're looking 564 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: at the lead, and you don't. 565 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 6: Know what they're going to show on what they're not 566 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 6: going to show. So you're so conscious of like every movement, 567 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 6: you know, everything you say and all that kind of stuff. 568 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 6: You really are because you have no idea how it's 569 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: going to end up coming out. 570 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 4: So then you go into the first rose ceremony. Do 571 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: you remember feeling confident if you were like felt like 572 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 4: you were going to go a home, if you were 573 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: sure you were getting get a rose. 574 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: I felt very confident. 575 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 6: We'd had a very very nice conversation and I served 576 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 6: in wine, so I thought that was a big plus, 577 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 6: and we had a delightful conversation, and so I was 578 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: pretty confident that I would get one. 579 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 5: What did you guys talk about in that first conversation. 580 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 6: Well, I have my family's like my heart and all 581 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 6: of us girls. Again as we're older, we have grandkids 582 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 6: and kids. So we talked about family, We talked about 583 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 6: things we like to do. Let's see, we talked about oh, 584 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 6: things that I was really passionate about and interested in 585 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 6: and travel. 586 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: I travel. Since I've retired, I've been like thirteen countries. 587 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 588 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 6: So I shared with him that, and then I shared 589 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 6: with them this. I have this philosophy you're in your 590 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 6: go go years, your slowgo years, or your no go years, 591 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 6: and that I'm still in my go go years and 592 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 6: hope to be for quite a while. And so that's 593 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 6: why I stay so active. 594 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: You've been to thirteen huntries. Do you have a favorite 595 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: place that you've ever been? 596 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, I do not. 597 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 6: Most of them have very special uh things about them, 598 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 6: each one of them. 599 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: If I had to pick some, I couldn't pick just one. 600 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 6: But going to Africa and seeing the animals and stuff, 601 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: that's pretty tough to yeah, you know, get over. And 602 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 6: then the Galapic Ghost was amazing. And then I did 603 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 6: about three different trips that were give back that you 604 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 6: go and you you actually you stay in like two 605 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: star places and you work, but you also still get 606 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 6: to see all the things that the country has to 607 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 6: offer and the tip the regular. 608 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: That you would want to see. 609 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 6: But like in Thailand, I had my own elephant for 610 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 6: four days, had to cut the elephant grass and feed 611 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 6: them and walk them down to the river and bathe them. 612 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 6: And then in Cambodia, that trip was a Thailand and 613 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 6: Cambodia trip. We taught school for half a day and 614 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 6: oh my god, it was just that trip was life changing. 615 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: So that trip's pretty far up there. 616 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds amazing. 617 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: Yea, it was okay, So then we see you. You 618 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: last on the show for a good amount of time, 619 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: but you end up going home after the talent show. 620 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: Just kind of looking back at your experience, what would 621 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: you say was your favorite part of it all of. 622 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: The whole experience. Of course, meeting the women. One of 623 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 6: my goals was to leave with friends. It's hard finding 624 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 6: women in this age group that have the same energy 625 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 6: level and are adventurous and like to do some of 626 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 6: the same things I like to do. And so I 627 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 6: went with great anticipation that I would find, you know, 628 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 6: a couple ladies that I could you know, connect with 629 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 6: and stay in touch with. And I found more than 630 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 6: a couple, and so that was one of my goals I. 631 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: Was Unfortunately my talent didn't get shown. 632 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 6: But I had so much fun working with the producers 633 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 6: and putting that together. And that was a really fun 634 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 6: day because that was like, you know, we all were 635 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 6: in front of an audience and every to see what 636 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 6: the ladies had come up with was over. 637 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: It was I mean, even Jesse goes, I'd paid to 638 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: see this. 639 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 6: Show, and I mean it was amazing some of the 640 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 6: talents these ladies had. 641 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: What was your talent that then it gets shown? 642 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 6: So I did a dialogue about kids today and you 643 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 6: know that they're inside and they're you know, and I 644 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 6: made different names up for like Twitter, I just called 645 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 6: it titter, and I made different names up for everything, 646 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 6: and you just they're not experiencing like what I did. 647 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 6: And then in my day, we had like Jack's and 648 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,239 Speaker 6: pickup sticks and dodgeball and teatherball, and you had to, 649 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 6: you know, put a key and have these skates that 650 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 6: gripped your shoes and you'd skate and you're always outside, 651 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 6: and you know, you had hula hoop and we would 652 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 6: take our dad's clothes and stuff and stuff newspapers in them, 653 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 6: and ty Rope took and throw it out in the 654 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 6: street and cars would run over it, and then people 655 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 6: would get out yelling and we'd run. 656 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: And then when I was eleven. 657 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 6: I won a yo yo contest, and so at that 658 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 6: time in the show, I brought out my yo yo 659 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 6: and started doing yoyo's and I did tricks that actually 660 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 6: all worked. I was successful on all of them. And 661 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 6: then I brought Gary to the stage and had him 662 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 6: do yoyo. 663 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: How was he? 664 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 6: He got it up and down a couple of times, 665 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 6: but you know that was cold, that was you know, 666 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 6: he didn't have time to warm up. 667 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: But he was a trooper of course, as he always was. 668 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: Got it well before we before we let you go. 669 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the way it ended? Gary 670 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: and Teresa and Leslie? 671 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 6: You know, from day one I had picked Leslie and 672 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 6: Nancy to be the finals. I of course hoped that 673 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 6: I would be, But once you see the cow over 674 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: women that were there, those two girls were the ones 675 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 6: I had picked. 676 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: But as you went. 677 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 6: Through the product, well I didn't get to go that 678 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 6: far to see it firsthand, but as I watched it 679 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 6: on TV. 680 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 2: It was pretty it was. 681 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 6: It was very difficult because I saw that they both 682 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 6: had such connections and stuff. 683 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: But I think he made the right choice. 684 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too well. Christina, thank you so 685 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: much for coming on Happy Hour and taking the time. 686 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it getting to know you. 687 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It was really good seeing both 688 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: of you. 689 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 6: Hope to see you again and I wish you well 690 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 6: and happy holidays. 691 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: Thank you, Happy holidays to you till bye. 692 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 2: Guys, good to see you, bye bye. 693 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of 694 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 4: Happy Hour. 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