Speaker 1: Really Now, Really.
Speaker 2: Really Now Really, Hello and welcome to Really No Really,
Speaker 2: with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who respectfully say, don't
Speaker 2: wait to be a hundred before you subscribe to our show,
Speaker 2: because speaking of one hundred, Jason and Peter invite you
Speaker 2: today to enjoy this our special one hundredth episode as
Speaker 2: we celebrate two years of Really No Really. Our mission
Speaker 2: was to find answers to questions that intrigued us, and
Speaker 2: along the way we met many fascinating guests like Kit Boga,
Speaker 2: the online influencer who effectively scams the scammers, Brian Johnson,
Speaker 2: the tech entrepreneur who's attempting to turn back his biological
Speaker 2: clock and d age himself, Samuel West, the founder of
Speaker 2: the highly successful Museum of Failure, and George Church, the
Speaker 2: Harvard professor who's heading the scientific mission to bring back
Speaker 2: the Wooly Mammoth. We were also visited by some people
Speaker 2: that everybody knows, but we found out much more about,
Speaker 2: like William Shatner, who explained what would have happened on
Speaker 2: his recent mission to space if he'd suffered a heart attack.
Speaker 2: Actor Wayne Knight, who dished about the somewhat controversial atmosphere
Speaker 2: on the Seinfeld set, Dick Van Dyke, the beloved and
Speaker 2: inspirational performer, who discussed his amazing seventy year career and
Speaker 2: even sang for us, and Breaking Bad's Brian Cranston, who
Speaker 2: enabled us.
Speaker 3: To introduce Walter White to George Costanza.
Speaker 2: So please join Jason and Peter as they reveal their
Speaker 2: favorite episodes and recall the moments that collectively made us
Speaker 2: go really, no, really.
Speaker 3: Do do do? Boy? You're a really when you get anger?
Speaker 4: So this is this is memory lane, David, this is
Speaker 4: the great reminiscence.
Speaker 1: This is the hundredth episode we're commemorating, and we're thinking
Speaker 1: of all the great moments over the last two years.
Speaker 3: Wow, this is the one thing to go.
Speaker 4: I can I say of all of our endeavors together,
Speaker 4: all that we've done three television series together, We've done
Speaker 4: live shows together, We've created all kinds of things. Nothing
Speaker 4: Zephyr reached one hundred that we have we have touched.
Speaker 3: Ten is a big number for us. So here's a number. Yeah.
Speaker 5: In September, Yeah, I saw the three hundred and thirty
Speaker 5: thousand new podcasts were published.
Speaker 3: In September alone. September alone, and how many.
Speaker 4: Of them right now, at this minute, I have better
Speaker 4: ratings than ire. No, kid, I kid because IATI no.
Speaker 4: When people say, after two years, am I tired of
Speaker 4: doing this?
Speaker 3: You know, not at all. I Every time we sit
Speaker 3: down and do this, we learned something.
Speaker 4: It's I meet somebody that I'm fascinated by and I've
Speaker 4: learned something that I was not going to learn any
Speaker 4: other way.
Speaker 3: And so far they've all been interesting learning.
Speaker 4: It hasn't been you know, you could teach me about
Speaker 4: the great battles of World War One.
Speaker 3: I'm not. It's learning, but I'm not going to use
Speaker 3: it anywhere.
Speaker 4: This has all been stuff that I in conversations everywhere
Speaker 4: I go, I go. You know, we had a guy
Speaker 4: on the podcast who talked about such and such and
Speaker 4: and it it becomes useful information and interesting information to
Speaker 4: share with people. So so we're doing great. We're doing
Speaker 4: actually we are doing not say great?
Speaker 3: Should should I use mister k ABC line?
Speaker 4: But we're better than most, not as good as sung there.
Speaker 3: There you go. No, we're fine to David Walkers' got
Speaker 3: to do this.
Speaker 5: Our best friends get to hang together, yes, and find
Speaker 5: out interesting things like what David.
Speaker 3: Yes, David, what do we got. Let's remind us what we.
Speaker 1: Call Well, let's go back to our first video episode
Speaker 1: with everyone's favorite William Shatner.
Speaker 4: Oh, live long and prosper, and he continues to do so,
Speaker 4: my god, he continues to not only live long, somehow,
Speaker 4: he continues to prosper.
Speaker 5: And he looks. It's he's not aging like most people.
Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean? He still looked really well.
Speaker 5: And he still got all his beans, all his marbles
Speaker 5: at ninety so he's got.
Speaker 3: The ones he had. Yeah. Aha, you love Shatner, So
Speaker 3: I love those too. Yeah. He's been a friend of
Speaker 3: my captain, my admiral. We were thrilled to have him.
Speaker 5: And he had just been launched into space at age
Speaker 5: ninety one away, so God.
Speaker 4: And hadn't considered the fact that there was not a
Speaker 4: doctor or a medical team on board with him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I think the big line from that episode we
Speaker 4: said what if you what if you start to have
Speaker 4: a heart attack?
Speaker 3: And he said, they.
Speaker 4: Told me, They told me that the G force would
Speaker 4: act like a defibrillator and.
Speaker 3: On the way up, and I said, Bill, is that
Speaker 3: do you believe it? I can't remember what he said.
Speaker 6: They closed the door, and then a voice, the moderator
Speaker 6: of the guy's voice. So, all right, now, if anybody
Speaker 6: wants to leave, they should leave now because we're removing
Speaker 6: the gantry. If anybody want wants to leave, leave now?
Speaker 7: What are they talking about?
Speaker 3: Why would you want to leave? I can think about.
Speaker 8: Me.
Speaker 5: You can referl a list. So did they give you
Speaker 5: a contingency if it takes off and somebody has a
Speaker 5: heart attack on the way up, or somebody gets sick?
Speaker 3: Is there a doctor on the crew? Is there anybody
Speaker 3: if something? Man, you're dead floating? You're dead and floating.
Speaker 6: You're you're yes, you're floating.
Speaker 3: Wow? Did they bring it? Did they?
Speaker 6: Presumably the GE's going up and the g's coming down
Speaker 6: will bring you back to life because they're so uh grocious.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's what they tell you. Do you believe it?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't either. That doesn't make any sense. But he
Speaker 3: did it, God, but he is.
Speaker 5: He's a pretty unique, unique individuals around a long time.
Speaker 3: That's more in a week than we do in a month. Yes,
Speaker 3: you got it, Yes, David. Well.
Speaker 1: Another thing that's that's made it through the one hundredth
Speaker 1: is so does we still have the bell, the much
Speaker 1: maligned belt.
Speaker 5: You don't know what that does to me and Laurie
Speaker 5: every time that's the producer lawyer, every time he hits that.
Speaker 5: The things I think of that I could do to
Speaker 5: him that involved this membrane flitting as it's just it's enough.
Speaker 5: It's enough, it's a great belly. It is the signature
Speaker 5: of our show. It's the signature of our show.
Speaker 1: The belt, unlike, unlike the clown cookie.
Speaker 3: Away, I didn't I that was not my I didn't
Speaker 3: bring that in.
Speaker 5: I wanted to use that for picking really no release
Speaker 5: for guests out of the head and being creative.
Speaker 3: He nixed it. I didn't mix it. You just you
Speaker 3: just made a statement.
Speaker 4: And I want to say categorically what has happened repeatedly
Speaker 4: over these hundred episodes is you make statements as if
Speaker 4: you know because of the depth of our friendship and
Speaker 4: the time we spent together. You make a declarative statement
Speaker 4: that is categorically false, and I have no way to
Speaker 4: push back against it.
Speaker 3: So the statement just made it is I.
Speaker 4: Mixed the clown. I didn't mix the clown. We came
Speaker 4: and the clown was gone. I hadn't said Schnai about
Speaker 4: the clown. The clown was inconsequential to me. You didn't
Speaker 4: use it, so it was here or it wasn't here.
Speaker 4: I didn't mix the clown. Let it be known. I
Speaker 4: didn't mix the clown.
Speaker 3: Category let me do that. I don't. I'm a terrible
Speaker 3: driver compared to you know you're bringing out it. Let's
Speaker 3: let's address the clown.
Speaker 4: Let's address the clim David, what he does will not
Speaker 4: be one hundred and one episode, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: What he does, what he does repeatedly is forgets what
Speaker 5: he has said.
Speaker 4: So really, who's the one that memorizes the lines for
Speaker 4: a living?
Speaker 3: Who's the one that has to retain?
Speaker 5: There you go, this is our relationship. Okay, So David,
Speaker 5: the clown he nixed. I brought it in. I wanted
Speaker 5: to do it. He said, I don't understand what this is.
Speaker 5: Let's not do it. So that was it. The clown disappeared.
Speaker 5: Why would I bring the clown it? Get rid of it, myldern.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, don't do that, because you don't.
Speaker 10: I wish we had a I mixed the clown, made
Speaker 10: fun of him about the clown. I even mixed the
Speaker 10: clown I don't mix anything on this show. If I
Speaker 10: was gonna mix anything, there's about twenty other things I
Speaker 10: could think.
Speaker 3: Of that I would mix before I got to the clown.
Speaker 3: Let's move on, let's move on very high. Let's move
Speaker 3: on and just say the clown's name was Nick.
Speaker 1: To get back to better times, Yes, we had we
Speaker 1: had a dancing guest who was about to hit one
Speaker 1: hundred years old, Dick Van Type.
Speaker 10: Oh.
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, that's why you can say my way, I
Speaker 5: should say I hadn't met Dick before whatever. But he
Speaker 5: loved you. You actually did special. There are certain people
Speaker 5: you melt and go. He's authentic, is everything, is everything
Speaker 5: you wanted to get back. He made it to ninety nine.
Speaker 4: And there's there's no reason to believe he won't make
Speaker 4: it to a one hundred. Yeah, and by the way,
Speaker 4: kudos because also on that episode was his wife, Arlen,
Speaker 4: who was wonderful. It is wonderful, and you know, it's
Speaker 4: one of those marriages where there is you know, decades
Speaker 4: between them and some of us who are I don't
Speaker 4: know why people raise eyebrows at these things, but you
Speaker 4: know some people go, oh, you know when they see
Speaker 4: it made the simber thing.
Speaker 3: They go, it's a gold digger kind of thing. This
Speaker 3: is a couple that truly loves each.
Speaker 4: Other and enjoy takes every matter of each other, enjoys
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 3: There is it was.
Speaker 4: It was actually one of those relationships that you go, oh,
Speaker 4: that's how it should be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it right away. We weren't sure. And
Speaker 3: then as soon as you see them together, I told.
Speaker 4: And I said to Arlene, you know what, and she goes,
Speaker 4: we sing together every day.
Speaker 3: And they said I had lost music and he.
Speaker 4: Brought music back into my life and they sing together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what was What were you?
Speaker 4: What were you thinking when when you're on a joyous
Speaker 4: hit show and the boss wants to pull the plug?
Speaker 3: What were you? I mean, did you go that's it,
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm finished.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I didn't know what we were going. Everybody
Speaker 8: and Mary Taylor Moore.
Speaker 11: You had the movie, you had Mary Poppins in between
Speaker 11: those did Poppins?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be that was that during the run
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 8: Yeah, uh huh, yeah, it was yeah, right, that's right.
Speaker 8: During the time off we shot it only took four months.
Speaker 8: Chitty Bang Bang took over a year. Really, we couldn't
Speaker 8: find any sun in England, was waiting for the.
Speaker 5: Yeah we got shot, amazing, amazing, So Dick van Dyke
Speaker 5: to one hundred and plus, go get.
Speaker 1: Him brother right, and then another one of our most
Speaker 1: popular epiod you actually do you guys know what the
Speaker 1: most popular episode that we would.
Speaker 3: Guess either Brian Cranston or Wayne Knight. Wayne Knight, Wayne Knight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm laughing because Wayne, you keep fires differently
Speaker 5: than most people.
Speaker 3: You know. But he's a joy and he's fat.
Speaker 5: First of all, he's a fascinating, very intelligent, very well ranged,
Speaker 5: one of the one of the smartest, smart, really smart,
Speaker 5: but man, he fires and whey that We've done a
Speaker 5: bunch of projects with him. You of course worked with
Speaker 5: him on Seinfeld, but we did a couple of things
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 3: Remember when we did a Donnie Clay with him? We
Speaker 3: did it? Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: He's just and he never does the same thing twice
Speaker 5: and he kills you every time he does it.
Speaker 4: Very funny man, very smart man with a with a
Speaker 4: with a range of ability that you know, as most
Speaker 4: characters do, they they don't get to show you the
Speaker 4: full right uh. And I remember for me the seminal
Speaker 4: exchange on that episode was I. I had said to him,
Speaker 4: you know, I had found out there were one or
Speaker 4: two notable people who said that when they did the
Speaker 4: show as a guest, they didn't have the best experience.
Speaker 4: They they found us to be I guess cold or whatever.
Speaker 4: And so I said to him, did you think we
Speaker 4: were a warm group or a cool group?
Speaker 3: And he went, do you remember what he said? It
Speaker 3: was a great answer. Were we cold? Were we welcoming?
Speaker 3: Were we warm?
Speaker 7: Were you were professional? And you were the top show
Speaker 7: on television? And it was like, this is opening night
Speaker 7: on Broadway? Don't up?
Speaker 3: Is that the vibe?
Speaker 7: The vibe is that everybody was thrilled to be there
Speaker 7: and they and they understood the nature of this beast.
Speaker 7: And Jerry was very was welcoming and friendly. Larry was
Speaker 7: scary as hell because he was too relaxed seeming, and
Speaker 7: you couldn't like, how could somebody so laconic and loose.
Speaker 3: Scary? Right right, right, right right?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 7: I think that.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 7: I think that I enjoyed being on the show because
Speaker 7: every time you started a scene, you knew it delivered.
Speaker 7: You just had to not be in the way of it,
Speaker 7: right find the joke, hit the joke, the joke is there.
Speaker 7: So I mean the number of shows I've been on
Speaker 7: where you know, you go on an expedition to find
Speaker 7: the joke. This was not that The material it was
Speaker 7: always good, he said.
Speaker 4: Even if you guys had been the most welcoming people
Speaker 4: in the world, there was still attention because you go,
Speaker 4: I can't miss this up.
Speaker 3: This is the best.
Speaker 8: Ye.
Speaker 4: I never having that perspective because I really did think
Speaker 4: we were kind of over the other.
Speaker 5: Thing about that, and that jumps to the Friends with
Speaker 5: Matthew Perry who died when you found out that he
Speaker 5: was in such pain because he knew, like on Friends,
Speaker 5: they were always bringing it and he felt he needed
Speaker 5: to bring it. You don't even realize the pressure or
Speaker 5: casts of a successful show is under the deliver every day.
Speaker 5: So his insight was refreshing. And also he's just outspoken
Speaker 5: with talked about Sharon Stone in the famous scene and
Speaker 5: Wayne is looking at it and.
Speaker 3: He revealed, yeah, she was, she was, probably she was
Speaker 3: not that he couldn't see it a light box exactly, So.
Speaker 1: Who could forget as you said, Jason the Brian grantson
Speaker 1: episode where we finally had George Constanza meet Walter White.
Speaker 3: Why so I got two iconic characters here.
Speaker 5: I just want to see, because you can cry on
Speaker 5: on c how quickly you can both get into that,
Speaker 5: how quickly you can get into Walter the White and
Speaker 5: Jason can get into George three to one go, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Just had my name. I just have to put on glasses.
Speaker 3: He has to shave his head. That's not Walter the
Speaker 3: White White Wall, So that's not Heisenberg.
Speaker 4: And first of all, why Heisenberg?
Speaker 3: Why and what? And what's what the hat? Yeah? What
Speaker 3: was what the hat? You talk a lot, little man. Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm supposed to be scared now right. I
Speaker 3: don't live in his world? Blue myth? Was the blue mistake?
Speaker 3: Or did you plan that? Did he come out blue
Speaker 3: and you went, let's leave it came out blue? Why not? Probably?
Speaker 5: I would watch the George Constanzo Walter White interview show.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine those if.
Speaker 3: Jesse had been George? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Exactly, true iconic characters. And that was based on the
Speaker 5: fact that Brian said, I'm retiring. Have you heard a
Speaker 5: peep about the retirement since he said?
Speaker 4: You know, Brian and are good friends. I think he
Speaker 4: is cutting back. I think he is cutting a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff out of his life. You know, we know
Speaker 4: Brian as an actor, but Brian has been a producer.
Speaker 4: Brian's been developing Brian. Brian's been a very busy guy.
Speaker 4: Here's a liquor, you know, and right exactly all that
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, I think he made a
Speaker 4: promise to Robin that come age seventy, which he I
Speaker 4: think he's two years from now.
Speaker 3: Maybe forgive me if I'm aging here.
Speaker 4: Brian he made a promise to her that he would,
Speaker 4: in fact, you know, cut a lot of that out
Speaker 4: and make a lot more time for them. But we yeah,
Speaker 4: we were exploring, you know, why would you retire If
Speaker 4: you love what you're doing and people are asking you
Speaker 4: to do it, why would you retire?
Speaker 3: We were exploring.
Speaker 5: He's another one fascinating multi multi third guy. Who did
Speaker 5: you meet him on Seifer? Was that the first time
Speaker 5: you met him?
Speaker 4: Probably? I know I did a Malcolm episode and I
Speaker 4: can't remember. I must have been doing something.
Speaker 5: Was he supposed to be on one time as a
Speaker 5: dentist who wanted to convert to be funny, but he
Speaker 5: saw on more than one time because he.
Speaker 4: Whenever, whenever we got somebody and we went, oh, that's
Speaker 4: that's special.
Speaker 3: I mean Jackie Child. Well, okay, Greg Morris.
Speaker 5: What I read about Brian was that he made Jerry
Speaker 5: laugh because during the scene they didn't know he was
Speaker 5: going to put on the put the stuff on his
Speaker 5: own and take a hit. Yeah, and when he took
Speaker 5: everybody went, oh, oh my gosh, this guy's goal.
Speaker 3: No, it was it was clear Brian was you know,
Speaker 3: whatever happened to him after sign it right anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they all disappeared. The opposite of that.
Speaker 1: Another one of our big ones the Secret to Happiness
Speaker 1: with doctor Laurie Santo. So we were talking about the
Speaker 1: course in how to Become a.
Speaker 5: Happy Person, Yeah, which which so many people man. There
Speaker 5: are ways to be grateful and thankful.
Speaker 4: Well that was basically what she was talking about, was
Speaker 4: you know, in a lot of ways. If I remember
Speaker 4: the conversation correctly, she talked about one of the things
Speaker 4: that I understand and I agree with and try to
Speaker 4: spout if you want to be happy, concentrate on other people,
Speaker 4: because it's it's it's when you put the spotlight firmly
Speaker 4: on yourself and you're going, how do I feel about this?
Speaker 3: Am I? Okay? Do I have what I want? Am
Speaker 3: I happy? Am I?
Speaker 4: And the minute you go, hey, I see somebody who
Speaker 4: could use a hand. That that is more of the
Speaker 4: path to happiness.
Speaker 12: So much talk these days about like self care. You know,
Speaker 12: people are like, oh, do you talk about self care
Speaker 12: in your class? You know, an idea of treat yourself? Right,
Speaker 12: you know, parks and recreation kind of gut us on
Speaker 12: the wrong path because we think that happiness is all
Speaker 12: about me, me, me. But if you look at happy people,
Speaker 12: what you find is happy people are doing stuff for
Speaker 12: other people. Controlled for income, Happy people are giving more
Speaker 12: of their money away than not so happy people. Right,
Speaker 12: So I think we get this idea of self care wrong.
Speaker 12: The really easy hack for our own self happiness is
Speaker 12: to do something nice for other people to kind of
Speaker 12: get out of our headspace. And you know, if people
Speaker 12: are listening right now and feeling you know, depressed or
Speaker 12: kind of this some of the nasty stuff we've talked
Speaker 12: about is resonating. Pick one thing you can do for
Speaker 12: somebody else, Text a friend, you know, donate five bucks
Speaker 12: to charity if you've got free five bucks, right, Just
Speaker 12: something you can do to get out of your own
Speaker 12: headspace and become a little bit more other or ended.
Speaker 12: You know, the data suggests that that will instantly start
Speaker 12: to make you feel better, and it'll create a positive
Speaker 12: feedback loop. Hopefully we're doing more stuff for other people
Speaker 12: and starting to feel better and better, and then that's
Speaker 12: just great for everybody.
Speaker 1: We have spoken with several comedians on the program that
Speaker 1: have just been so hilarious. I mean, we have Kevin Pollack,
Speaker 1: we have Judd Apatow, we have LeeAnne Morgan, and even
Speaker 1: AI George Carlin.
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, George's act. And it turned out that they
Speaker 5: didn't AI if they lied about AI, and two comedians
Speaker 5: actually wrote it. And that's what we think happened.
Speaker 3: That the AI and his voice doing it. They had
Speaker 3: his voice doing it.
Speaker 5: So you got a legacy of not being that funny
Speaker 5: towards the end of your life and a whole generation
Speaker 5: of people being exposed to not George Carlin as George carl.
Speaker 4: But it was a really interesting conversation with his daughter
Speaker 4: because not only did these guys do it and should
Speaker 4: they have the right to do it as a legal question,
Speaker 4: but she and the estate got nothing. They're they're appropriating
Speaker 4: essentially her father and presenting it as new material from
Speaker 4: her father that even if it was good, better and different,
Speaker 4: her father should profit from it to some degree. Didn't
Speaker 4: write and it was as she was suing at the time.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what became of that lie.
Speaker 3: I think she won.
Speaker 5: And they admitted, if I'm correct that they admitted that
Speaker 5: they used there for his voice, but they wrote the material.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then of course we had we've we've actually covered
Speaker 1: the scams and cons and several different angles. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked about just your basic scammers online. We've had
Speaker 1: fake psychic scammers and the PI that was looking into.
Speaker 3: That wine fraud what we've talked about.
Speaker 1: And even we had kit Bogan who goes online and
Speaker 1: pretends to be a victim of scam artists to the
Speaker 1: scammer's busy with the fake scam so they're not scamming
Speaker 1: old people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we did one online. I played his mother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did it very well, but I was going, well,
Speaker 4: sort of yeah, sort of. Absolutely, it was a little
Speaker 4: bit of my mother, a little bit of how it
Speaker 4: sturn's mother. Well, ask him, why is he asking me?
Speaker 4: I don't know these answers he's a robot. I think
Speaker 4: he's a robot.
Speaker 3: Tell me your body name, your last name. Oh and
Speaker 3: he wants your last names, and you just hold on. Okay,
Speaker 3: Richard and Maureen Andrews look us up. Of course we're here.
Speaker 3: We need your help.
Speaker 8: Brought you the five hundred dollars five hundred that I
Speaker 8: don't know if we're going to be around for another
Speaker 8: five years.
Speaker 3: He wants five five years. We get sold right now.
Speaker 3: We can solve it now, that's what you don't evolve it? Ahead? Yes,
Speaker 3: what is wrong with you? My god? We will not
Speaker 3: fight the machine right in front of the machine. Do
Speaker 3: you know what you do?
Speaker 5: You play an old woman as if she could last
Speaker 5: into the ten years, but potentially go this afternoon, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Because there's a bit of pain
Speaker 3: in the voice. What do you so? Yeah? No, Kit was?
Speaker 3: Kit was? He was fascinating. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the fact that that that he came up with,
Speaker 5: that that I'm going to scam the scammers and tie
Speaker 5: them up and put them out of businesses a pretty
Speaker 5: good thing. I think he could do that all day long,
Speaker 5: because that's coming up with new scamm yeah constantly.
Speaker 1: And then of course we've we've talked to people about
Speaker 1: the jobs that other people.
Speaker 3: Don't want to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've we've had uh, Tom Cruise's stuntman, the
Speaker 1: stomach coordinator. We've had python hunters that went out into
Speaker 1: the crocodile handlers and how they're putting their heads in
Speaker 1: the crocodile's head.
Speaker 3: A number of the My favorite.
Speaker 4: Thing that came out of the the animal Handlers is
Speaker 4: a personal in house story that you know very well
Speaker 4: about our different mister Guggenheim who the year that we
Speaker 4: had the Python Lady on. This is a woman, a
Speaker 4: tiny woman by the way, she's five foot you know
Speaker 4: nothing is credited with catching one of the world's biggest
Speaker 4: pythons in the Florida ever Glands single handedly. Well that
Speaker 4: year for Christmas, I had sent friends of mine a belt,
Speaker 4: a very special belt that has a unique locking system.
Speaker 3: It's not there's no holes in the belt. There's just
Speaker 3: a little ratchets.
Speaker 4: And I sent one to David, and David apparently emailed
Speaker 4: you and said, hey, can do you have the address
Speaker 4: of the Python Lady?
Speaker 3: I need it desperate.
Speaker 4: It does and you rode back wide he said, put
Speaker 4: Jason's belt on.
Speaker 3: I can't get out.
Speaker 5: So our lawyer sent a series of pictures of him
Speaker 5: trying to get out of the belt, and he had
Speaker 5: a chainsaw blow blow all this stuff. And I admitted
Speaker 5: to Jason, I think it's how long goes up Let's
Speaker 5: list last year. So I have not I tell David
Speaker 5: the other day, I have not attempted to use the
Speaker 5: belt because I'm scared because.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time wearing it right now. But
Speaker 3: the first time you.
Speaker 5: Used it, you had to go to the bathroom and
Speaker 5: panic because you couldn't.
Speaker 3: Get it off. Well, that's true. So I put it
Speaker 3: on the first time and I had to. I was
Speaker 3: at Defcom one and I told David.
Speaker 5: So I told David, it's not that I don't like
Speaker 5: the belt. I'm scared of it, but I do care
Speaker 5: it with me all the time because if I get
Speaker 5: into my snake or something bad happens, it's a tourney.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'll never be a block. I'm wearing it
Speaker 3: right now. It's easy, peasy to use. And you just
Speaker 3: said I have to go to the bathroom. Somebody cut
Speaker 3: cut this off me. No, that's that you're a great belt,
Speaker 3: great belt, great belt. I'm I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: I could unratchet myself right now if I could hear it.
Speaker 3: We also we've.
Speaker 1: Done a lot on technology, some of the really cool
Speaker 1: things about technology.
Speaker 3: We have TikTok bands.
Speaker 1: We've talked about the AI realities and possibility. They're cloning controversies,
Speaker 1: they're bringing back the man mammoth, human computer connections. We're
Speaker 1: making cyborgs here. Elon Musk is the next thing after
Speaker 1: Tesla is a cyborg.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We did and and all kinds of human engineering and technology.
Speaker 4: We also had the guy who's the aging.
Speaker 3: Dan Brian John. He's doing he's doing great.
Speaker 5: Out to him for something and he got right back
Speaker 5: to be funny for you had him and again in
Speaker 5: another year and an eight year old books like he's
Speaker 5: just starting preschool whatever. It's like wow, and we laughed
Speaker 5: at you. Look at you, yeah, putting it together, look
Speaker 5: at you always there's so much tech.
Speaker 3: He's like the end of two thousand and one. He's just.
Speaker 13: I had this experience where in the evening seven PM,
Speaker 13: this version of me evening Brian would come out and
Speaker 13: he's a monster. Okay, that's not too entirely true. He
Speaker 13: would be saddled with all of the burdens of life,
Speaker 13: the stresses of the fires at work, that the fights
Speaker 13: with the partner, that the kids are hanging on the legs,
Speaker 13: you know, like you're trying to bathe them and put
Speaker 13: them to bed. And the only thing evening Brian wanted
Speaker 13: was relief from the pain. And he would then think,
Speaker 13: those damn brownies, right, the whole ten is there in
Speaker 13: the kitchen. It was the only thing he could do
Speaker 13: to try to offset the pain he felt in life.
Speaker 13: And so for every night or years, evening Brian would
Speaker 13: show up and eat something and I tried everything I
Speaker 13: could have stop him.
Speaker 7: I never could.
Speaker 13: It was just overwhelming. One day I said, out of
Speaker 13: you know, like almost tongue in cheek, evening, Brian, you
Speaker 13: make my life miserable.
Speaker 7: You're fired.
Speaker 13: And I felt this relief, and so I said, Okay,
Speaker 13: this is fun. I'm gonna play with this from five
Speaker 13: pm to ten pm. The version of Brian that runs
Speaker 13: me does not have authority to eat food, no matter what.
Speaker 13: He cannot eat food did He is not responsible. He
Speaker 13: makes mourning Brian hate life. He makes you know, dad
Speaker 13: Brian a bad dad. And so then I started building
Speaker 13: this idea and it developed into this concept where we
Speaker 13: built an algorithm using machine intelligence that takes better care
Speaker 13: of me than I can myself. I basically said, my
Speaker 13: mind is not qualified to run me. My mind is
Speaker 13: going to eat bad food, it is going to eat
Speaker 13: junk food, it's going to overeat, it's going to do
Speaker 13: all these terrible things. And we have these algorithms that
Speaker 13: do a much better job at many things when we
Speaker 13: can ourselves. So why wouldn't I have an algorithm run me?
Speaker 13: And so then we started measuring. I became the most
Speaker 13: measured person in human history with all the data we put,
Speaker 13: look at the scientific evidence. We built an algorithm, and
Speaker 13: then my only thing I had to say to let's
Speaker 13: say yes to was yes to operate the algorithm. And
Speaker 13: so that's what I think the twenty fifth century would
Speaker 13: say is it's say humans figured out their default cognition
Speaker 13: ran them into trouble, and that algorithms were actually much
Speaker 13: better and made them happier and more prosperous and more
Speaker 13: successful than they ever could be themselves.
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's happy doing all that stuff. He
Speaker 3: seemed pretty joyous. I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You don't keep that up if you're not getting something
Speaker 4: out of it because his sing.
Speaker 3: But he's selling supplement, he's got a business, he's a
Speaker 3: multi he's like my father would say, if you see
Speaker 3: his books, you know, but.
Speaker 4: It's it's uh. He has to men because he described
Speaker 4: what he does every day to do this, and.
Speaker 3: It's that's what I mean. That's that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: So if he's not getting some pleasure out of that,
Speaker 4: it's not That's why I'm saying, is he happy?
Speaker 5: Because you know, what are you doing today? I'm going
Speaker 5: to see wicked? You say to him, what are you
Speaker 5: doing today? I'm inserting something in my penis. I'm starting
Speaker 5: up my head.
Speaker 3: I gotta taken five miles three times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I'm taking him squeezing my eyeballs to
Speaker 5: get a thing that I'm going and then it's all
Speaker 5: day long. I'm eating this which is like hardboard with
Speaker 5: nutrition and it.
Speaker 3: So I don't know how happy he is. By the way,
Speaker 3: it's my prominence.
Speaker 5: The comedy writer said, I went to the doctor and
Speaker 5: the doctor said, if you do treadmill, it'll left five
Speaker 5: years to your life.
Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, but it's five years of treadmill.
Speaker 3: So that's what I mean. It's a guy happy. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I think he's happy. Okay.
Speaker 1: We have these these trends tourism, right, we have sleep
Speaker 1: tours in there. We were talking about We've talked about
Speaker 1: what happens to your luggage when it loses it and
Speaker 1: how to buy it from other people. We had CNN's
Speaker 1: Richard quest On to talking about airline safety with a
Speaker 1: year of you know, things popping off of plans, and
Speaker 1: of course our friend that went down to the bottom
Speaker 1: of the seed and look at the Titanic a few
Speaker 1: months before the darn thing popped.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Mike, Mike Gas one of the writers and was a
Speaker 5: producer on The Simpsons for a long long time.
Speaker 4: And he and his wife go to the most dangerous
Speaker 4: places in the world. He's been kidnapped, he's been threatened.
Speaker 4: He told us the long story about when we were
Speaker 4: the most frightened. He said, I was in the middle
Speaker 4: of some sub Saharan desert and the guy had no
Speaker 4: gas or the car wouldn't start, and we brought nothing.
Speaker 3: They got no Yeah, right.
Speaker 5: And the wife is more the Adventures of the two
Speaker 5: and convinced him to do so. My favorite thing is
Speaker 5: that when he went in submersible to go that Titanic.
Speaker 5: They were supposed to go together, and she, for some reason,
Speaker 5: something came up.
Speaker 3: She couldn't. So he's sitting in that thing.
Speaker 11: They bolt you in and they pushed it in the water,
Speaker 11: and then it just drops like a stone. It just
Speaker 11: drops for two and a half hours, two and a
Speaker 11: half It goes two and a half miles down, but
Speaker 11: that's all there is to it. It just drops like
Speaker 11: a stone. And I fell asleep. That's how unscared I was.
Speaker 11: I fell asleep on the way down. It was boring,
Speaker 11: and I woke up when we hit bottom. And so
Speaker 11: we hit bottom, and you know, they pull out the
Speaker 11: Xbox game controller that steers the ship, and we knew
Speaker 11: for some reason, we knew we were five hundred yards
Speaker 11: from the Titanic, but we couldn't see it. Here it
Speaker 11: is the biggest thing man had ever built, and we
Speaker 11: were right by it and couldn't find the thing. And
Speaker 11: everybody's springing into action, you know, both the crew and
Speaker 11: the paying customers. And I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 7: I'm just ballast.
Speaker 11: And so with twenty minutes to go, we found the
Speaker 11: Titanic and we we just had enough time to get
Speaker 11: all the glory shots we got. I got photos of
Speaker 11: the anchor and the bow of the ship and the
Speaker 11: side where it says Titanic, and then we had to
Speaker 11: go back up.
Speaker 5: You would sign a release that had death in there
Speaker 5: quite a few times, right, that said you could die
Speaker 5: quite a few times, I mean right.
Speaker 3: Or froot.
Speaker 11: You sign a waiver that mentions death three times on
Speaker 11: page one and you just page through it. And they
Speaker 11: thought of every way you can die on this thing.
Speaker 9: So anybody, you know, again, this is the news developed
Speaker 9: and narrative, which was totally unfair, and you know, like
Speaker 9: people had done what they were getting into.
Speaker 11: They everyone knew exactly what they were getting.
Speaker 5: Even if it was safe, the safest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: I'm not going down sitting in a tub with water. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're sitting on the floor. You're sitting on the water. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Mike, there's no there's no bathroom on the thing,
Speaker 4: you know, bathroom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the guy's got a game controller and you're sitting
Speaker 5: on top of right with water slashing right, and then
Speaker 5: you're waiting for two hours in darkness and you go, oh,
Speaker 5: there's the Titanic.
Speaker 4: But Mike's gone to North Korea, He's gone to Syria,
Speaker 4: He's gone to I mean, he's gone to every place
Speaker 4: where where the minute he opens his passport, they go.
Speaker 5: He goes to the most dangerous places in the world
Speaker 5: except certain parts. Yeah, well, because of the drones.
Speaker 1: We we've done a couple of museums, right, We had
Speaker 1: the Mafia Museum there in Las Vegas, and of course
Speaker 1: we had the Museum of Failure, which we learned about
Speaker 1: a lot of things that didn't pan out for Yeah.
Speaker 4: That one of my favorite episodes, by the way, because
Speaker 4: it's just such a great idea because everything in it.
Speaker 4: Every time he showed us something, we went, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it was just a washout.
Speaker 5: Memory Lane depends for women, and you go, why would
Speaker 5: a woman need a different pen?
Speaker 3: And why would both think to do that?
Speaker 5: Right that a guy's going to buy a big pen
Speaker 5: and he's got let me get one from my wife
Speaker 5: or she can't use this one.
Speaker 4: And flavors of soda that nobody wants. But what I
Speaker 4: loved about the Forgive Me. I can't remember the gentleman's
Speaker 4: name who is the curator of it, but but what
Speaker 4: the episode became about was how much success comes out
Speaker 4: of failure. There's really no such thing as failure. It's
Speaker 4: just a step on the way to something that's right.
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 4: Are you aware of anything that began as a completely
Speaker 4: abject failure and was turned around to become a success.
Speaker 4: Is there anything that jumps out like that?
Speaker 9: There?
Speaker 14: There are the sort of examples that everybody knows about
Speaker 14: with the posted note and Viagra, which both were sort
Speaker 14: of unexpected successes. But but I mean I often get
Speaker 14: approached by both journalists and and and and the corporate
Speaker 14: side where they say, hey, we really want you to
Speaker 14: give a talk, or we want to come visit the
Speaker 14: museum or something, but we'd like to focus on the
Speaker 14: failures that lead to something successful, right, And I always
Speaker 14: resist that because I think, I think that's talking about
Speaker 14: failure within the narrative of success, and I think there's
Speaker 14: there's failure in and of itself even when it doesn't it.
Speaker 14: Success is interesting also and should also deserve some attention.
Speaker 3: That was doctor Samuel West. There you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was great and great product, great products which
Speaker 5: you believe that big companies took a shot at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody saw that.
Speaker 5: Some are so obviously wrong but they did it anyway,
Speaker 5: and you figured I'd love to be in the discussion
Speaker 5: of why they did it, Yeah, because there must have
Speaker 5: been some reason, because they're smarter than us.
Speaker 4: And and also you always want to be that I
Speaker 4: always want to be with the moment where they go, Well,
Speaker 4: I think we got I think we got face facts.
Speaker 4: Boys didn't fan out quite the way we thought it might.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: And of course we've we've gotten into the substances that
Speaker 1: make us see the world a little a little bit different. Right,
Speaker 1: We've talked about microdosing, We've talked about psychedelics, we've talked
Speaker 1: about even cannabis. Right, we were rolling in cannabis literally
Speaker 1: and talking about some of the things that cannabis does
Speaker 1: that maybe we don't want it to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that has become the cannabis issue.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 4: I think, Peter, you told me the most pushback we
Speaker 4: got on any episode, it was the cannabis one, because
Speaker 4: you know, I would imagine we got pushed back on
Speaker 4: the psychedelics too, because the thesis of that episode became
Speaker 4: our guests said, look, anecdotal, Yes, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: positive results from people doing microdosing and using those kinds
Speaker 4: of hallucinogens and what not to for therapeuty therapy, for therapy,
Speaker 4: but scientifically.
Speaker 3: The evidence wasn't there.
Speaker 4: And then we had the woman on who is talking
Speaker 4: about scientific research into modern day cannabis and talking about
Speaker 4: how the use of it and the excitement about the
Speaker 4: use of it and the claims about what it can
Speaker 4: do are far ahead of what the actual science might support.
Speaker 5: And they finally could have touched They finally now have
Speaker 5: enough of a focus group to test it.
Speaker 4: And you know, we're not we try anyway to not
Speaker 4: be propagandists for anything on this on the show. We're
Speaker 4: just you know, here's a guest that has, you know,
Speaker 4: a viable an interesting point of view on this stuff.
Speaker 3: But that was the that was the biggest pushback, that.
Speaker 4: This thing that was an important part of their lives
Speaker 4: that is bringing them whatever it may be, whether it
Speaker 4: be emotional health.
Speaker 3: Or for the stuff.
Speaker 5: You should know, it's it's tough, but it was interesting.
Speaker 5: Was an interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I will tell you because I know we have
Speaker 4: to Laurie's looking at us to wrap this up, so
Speaker 4: let me let me do this. Do you have after
Speaker 4: one hundred episodes a favorite episode for them. I will
Speaker 4: tell you because I know we have to. Laurie's looking
Speaker 4: at us to wrap this up, so let me let
Speaker 4: me do this. Do you have, after one hundred episodes,
Speaker 4: a favorite episode for the forgiveness?
Speaker 5: I think that episode just because it surprised me so
Speaker 5: much and it so organically became a wonderful episode that
Speaker 5: took it took me to a place and took I
Speaker 5: think you to a place that we didn't anticipate in
Speaker 5: how powerful forgiveness is for the person doing it and
Speaker 5: the person receiving it. And it sounds again just saying it.
Speaker 5: If you're listening, you said, oh, I forgiveness episode the
Speaker 5: Gentleman does forgiveness, dude was really special. It's like like
Speaker 5: mister Rogers. You get the same feeling that he's genuine,
Speaker 5: he's authentic, and that he's making a difference.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm so glad you said that because that
Speaker 4: was absolutely, without question.
Speaker 3: My favorite among many favorites.
Speaker 4: How do you make the argument for it being beneficial
Speaker 4: for the person doing the forgiving?
Speaker 3: What is what is the benefit?
Speaker 4: What does the person who is offering the forgiveness feel
Speaker 4: or experience that makes it doable?
Speaker 15: We're not saying, let's think about that. That's an important question.
Speaker 15: When people treat us deeply unjustly, what tends to happen
Speaker 15: is anger starts building in the hearts, and psychologists make
Speaker 15: a distinction between healthy anger and unhealthy anger. Healthy anger
Speaker 15: is when someone treats you unjustly. At first you say, look,
Speaker 15: I'm a person of worth, it's not fair. I'm offended,
Speaker 15: but you get over that quickly. Unhealthy anger is a
Speaker 15: very unwelcome guest in the human heart. The unhealthy anger
Speaker 15: comes into your heart, takes off his shoes, sits on
Speaker 15: the couch of your heart, and doesn't want to leave.
Speaker 15: And as you live with this unhealthy anger, which literally
Speaker 15: you could keep it for forty years, you tend to
Speaker 15: have lower energy. You tend to be disrupted in sleep.
Speaker 15: You tend to perhaps ruminate on the other and that
Speaker 15: person and all the bad stuff from that person is
Speaker 15: now living in your heart. That person has a lot
Speaker 15: of power over you. Think about it. That person might
Speaker 15: have been unfair to you forty years ago, and all
Speaker 15: the effects of that are still in your heart. What
Speaker 15: forgiveness does. Paradoxically, our science shows this. When you decide
Speaker 15: it's your free choice, to be good to those who
Speaker 15: aren't good to you. That anger in the heart starts
Speaker 15: chipping away, it starts going down, and then the anxiety,
Speaker 15: the depression, not even the not liking yourself can change
Speaker 15: and that person no longer has power over you.
Speaker 4: What I loved about that is how emotional you and
Speaker 4: I got during that show. He really was able to
Speaker 4: touch us in a very unexpected way, and it was
Speaker 4: what he had to say and when he had to
Speaker 4: offer was absolutely beautiful and presented so beautifully.
Speaker 5: And I'm proud to put it out there. It was
Speaker 5: an episode and.
Speaker 3: What I love about the show.
Speaker 4: Just to wrap this up, what I've really enjoyed about this,
Speaker 4: other than your company, which.
Speaker 3: Is always a joy, is.
Speaker 4: My favorite episodes are the ones where we go in
Speaker 4: with a bit of an attitude, right like the Wooly
Speaker 4: Mammoth guy that was gonna he's bringing back the Wooly Mammoth,
Speaker 4: and you and I and our prep went, oh, we're
Speaker 4: going to cut this guy in, who asked, what didn't
Speaker 4: you see Jurassic Park? This never goes well And the
Speaker 4: first thing out of our mouth is, why are you
Speaker 4: trying to bring back the Holy Mammoth? And he goes
Speaker 4: not trying to bring back the wily mammoth, I'm trying
Speaker 4: to save the elephant, and we go, excuse me that.
Speaker 3: And I'm dealing with climate climate treth, and.
Speaker 4: We get we you know, our silliness becomes oh oh,
Speaker 4: and it becomes a great learning episode.
Speaker 3: Thanks you for inviting.
Speaker 4: Me to this little soiree, and thank you David, and
Speaker 4: thanks Laurie and everybody that is a part of our
Speaker 4: team that makes it happen, because it has been truly
Speaker 4: a joyful experiment to do this.
Speaker 5: I've had a great task has and thank you. Thank
Speaker 5: you for breathing such a huge part of a majority.
Speaker 5: And again, getting to do something with your best friend,
Speaker 5: that's an additional thing.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: I always say, yeah, Jason and I do this, we
Speaker 5: play whatever. But being on a stage, we got to
Speaker 5: do something with you. Yeah, And Lauren knows this. Producer,
Speaker 5: Laura knows this. We were walking out of We're in
Speaker 5: HOWI Meant a studio, which is also fun, which is
Speaker 5: amazing because I've known how for a long time. So
Speaker 5: Laurie did a magical thing I produced. We're trying to
Speaker 5: figure out with your schedule, how we do this and
Speaker 5: Lauria said, why don't you do one day, one day
Speaker 5: a month, you just record a bunch so that we
Speaker 5: can do it that way. And that has become magical
Speaker 5: because we love the studio, we love the people that
Speaker 5: are here, we love we love to get to do this,
Speaker 5: the way that we get to do this, and the
Speaker 5: support that we get, so it's all been it's all
Speaker 5: been just a plus for me to get see people
Speaker 5: you love.
Speaker 4: The only really, the only thing that is missing for
Speaker 4: me is any kind of remuneration that isn't Deli sandwiches.
Speaker 4: If there was something that I could use as currency,
Speaker 4: maybe I can use it Deli Sandwiches.
Speaker 5: Are you having trouble after every episode taking home five
Speaker 5: hundred Dellly sandwiches?
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5: They go right in the same bag with a yeah, right, Well,
Speaker 5: thank you and thank you for everybody who's helped us
Speaker 5: with the show out there watches and listen.
Speaker 3: Thank you for watching and listening.
Speaker 4: And we're going to keep going and uh look forward
Speaker 4: to bringing one hundred more.
Speaker 2: And as our one hundredth episode of Really No Really
Speaker 2: comes to a close, we wanted to take this opportunity
Speaker 2: to thank everyone who has listened and supported us, and
Speaker 2: let you know that we look forward to bringing you
Speaker 2: the next hundred episodes and more. As I say at
Speaker 2: the beginning of each show, if you are a listener,
Speaker 2: it would help our show immensely. If you would become
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Speaker 2: we go forward, you'll meet more and more celebrities sharing
Speaker 2: stories they've never told before, and we'll cover topics that
Speaker 2: make us scratch our heads, raise an eyebrow and ask
Speaker 2: the time honored question, really, no, really, We hope you
Speaker 2: will continue to join us for all of it, because
Speaker 2: if you enjoy listening to our show even half as
Speaker 2: much as we enjoy doing it, well, then apparently we're
Speaker 2: enjoying it.
Speaker 3: Twice as much as you. Really.
Speaker 5: I never you forget, but then again, I know as
Speaker 5: you get older you're forgetting a lot. So I, oh gosh,
Speaker 5: I gotta start something that you gotta start recording for you.
Speaker 4: Jason clown, isn't it the microphone? I can't see the screen.
Speaker 4: I can give you the thing Jason must have nixed
Speaker 4: the short.
Speaker 3: Mic I can give you the underlying attitude.
Speaker 4: I'll give you the attitude patches that said, really, no, really,
Speaker 4: if we can next, if we can face is now
Speaker 4: we're frown.
Speaker 3: I heard you say, oh sure, yeah, it's all me,
Speaker 3: all me. They don't know the real you. I'm the
Speaker 3: nixer mixer in the clown.
Speaker 6: Where is he?
Speaker 3: I'm having lunch.
Speaker 2: Brillian o'really is production of iHeartRadio and Bloise Entertainment.
Speaker 11: Mhm