1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and I just 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: want to say I appreciate you guys. You can be 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: getting your NFL content from anywhere, but you're here with me. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm thankful for you. So hit that sub button so 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: you can get the notifications when I'm dropping a new episode. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: All love, Hope you guys are having a great New 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Year's accomplishing all your New Year's resolutions and staying healthy. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And we got 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: another incredible guest, the receiver for the San Francisco forty 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: nine ers, Kendrick Boring My boy KB suck Sure what 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: upby Man? You had a fun year. You had it, 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: You got your bonus, you that foy look, got your chippers. 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: What does the future hold for young KB? You're coming back. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: I'm trying to come back. Talk to Kyle Man. You know, 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: Kyle got a good relationship with him. 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Man. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: We had a good exit meeting Man. So you know, 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make it happen. Man, That's always the goal. 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: San Francisco is home, man, and so coming back having 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 2: a good year, like you said, was powerful. So I'm 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: trying to run it back money talk, but that's just 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: definitely home. So that's holding a special place in my heart. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Yes, money definitely talks, But it was just it just 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: was so real when you came back and how everybody 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: received you. You put that eighty four on and it just 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: looked right. 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: It just it just was right back to how it felt. So, man, 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate Kyle John and I love how I left 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: on a good note, left with a good relationship. That's powerful, man. 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: So any players out there, don't don't don't leave it, 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: go on Twitter. Died down your last team, never know 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: where you might need to come back, So kind of 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: left on that note and it was good for. 34 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: You, right right. Don't don't speed past the facility. But 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: it will talk to me about this substation thing because 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: they make it such a big deal about this, and 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, nobody, how has this been around this long? 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: And nobody ever said anything, And that was the biggest. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: So I'm running off with a story. You you've been 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: on that grass, you know when it turned brown. 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: It turned brown at the end of the year. 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: But the soccer field over there, the little girls soccer field, 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: it's stay green all year. Low key. I just start 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: driving past noticing. So I don't know, Jay, but it 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: be brown. I'm like, how the grass brown? It's not 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: to rainy in San France, it ain't too hot. It 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: should really be green. Right, you've got a gardener. But 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: I'm telling you so, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Bra But 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: it's just crazy, man. It's too many injuries. So what's crazy? 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: Said? 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: They gonna look into it. 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: What's crazy is the team has been trying to acquire 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: that field for the longest and then acting like they 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: can't give the team that field because of the soccer 55 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: And that's a story different. Oh, they've been trying to 56 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: get it. It was a huge fight. They've been trying to 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: acquire that land, and maybe things would be different if 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: they were over there. But uh, you know, so the 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: city of Santa Claire, you know easily this we got 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: that chee. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: Look, you can build a whole nother soccer field. I 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 4: promise you. I promise you. 63 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: We can build another soccer field for him. That's not 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: right next to an inn. But tell me about this matchup. 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: You obviously played against the Seattle Seahawks and you played 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. What Mike Brable has done 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: for this team has been incredible. What Mike McDonald has 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: done for this team has been incredible. How do you 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: see this matchup going? 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a defensive game. 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: Man. 72 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to my guys in New England. Man, you 73 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: know them is all my guys went to war with 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: those guys, so I'm happy that they getting to experience it. 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: Just telling them the Soga Dotland man enjoy it. And 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: then I got my guy Cooper Cup over there. So 77 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm kind of room for both sides. But them both defenses, man, 78 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: are phenomenal. Man like me experiencing going against New England 79 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and practice and stuff. They know what they're doing. Braids 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: got the mindset, the mentality right. McDonald got them right 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: from me playing against them. Them boys were jumping routes 82 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: bro Dreeland and Wis Moon. I'm like, hey, I'm taking 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: six steps. How do you know you count my steps? 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: I'm like nah, bro, nah bro. 85 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: And so they just on that that they ain't sync 86 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: right now with the d line. They're confident, and you 87 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: know some dv is gonna just sit there like all right, 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 2: let them break and then go nah treaking them. They 89 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: Antsy and so in New England got those playermakers too, 90 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: Marcus Jones, Gonzo. So it's gonna be a defensive matchup 91 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: and both offense is gonna to be locked in. But 92 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: I think whoever makes the most players on defense comes 93 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: out top. 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: It's it's been crazy to watch the run that New 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: England's on and the defenses they've had to play against. 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean they've played against Houston, who and now Fraake Maiden. 97 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 4: Got to take a beating. 98 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it done. 99 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: They got it done. 100 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: And then they played against Denver, took a beating, but 101 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: they got it done. 102 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: And it's just one of those years you know, you 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: never know, the ball tipping away, more injuries and they 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: having a good year. Everything is kind of falling their way. 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Not to take credit from them, but a lot of 106 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: people doubting them were. 107 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: Like their schedule. 108 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: But then when you say they get to the playoffs, 109 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: Houston ain't no pump. We struggled against him in the 110 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: San fran They kept us off the field. So just 111 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: them holding it down against Denver too, like you said, 112 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: it shows that they're in the right position. But Josh 113 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: McDaniel's Drake Vrabel the coach of their building. They kind 114 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: of bringing it back in your Patriots kind of back 115 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: people mad. 116 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, they super mad. 117 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: But it's it's the things that that people don't appreciate 118 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: about Rabel and the Patriots that they've done well for 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: so many years. They rarely make mistakes in terms of 120 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: in game decision making, like when it's time to take 121 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: the points, that the points is taken, when it's a 122 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: third down and they should go for a fourth down, 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: they should go for what it's going for. You really 124 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: go into those games and you're like second guessing what 125 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: they did. Later on, you're like, they probably they probably 126 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: played it exactly how it should have played. 127 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: Nothing unorthodox, right, you know, bro and so and what 128 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: they and they take the risk at the right time. 129 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: What you're saying, like the fourth and two, fourth and one, 130 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: They're like, it makes sense. So I love Josh Man, 131 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: you know, I was with Josh so just seeing him 132 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: get back to who he is and in the same 133 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: place he was his I think it's his third tenor 134 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: and so man, I people asking me today like do 135 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: you wish you was in it? Heck, yeah, I wish, 136 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: of course, I mean lying if I was, But that's 137 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: just situations happened. God put me on a different path. 138 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: But I'm happy for those guys, man, And it it's 139 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: just dope to see from a distance. And I know 140 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: that I'll play in the Super Bowl. We've experienced together, man, 141 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: which is dope. And so just the experience in itself, 142 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: it's special for those guys. 143 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it was fantastic and and and even then 144 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: for Josh, I mean, he's still getting paid from the Raiders, 145 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: so he ain't doing that at all. The Raiders fan Hiven, 146 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the coach of the Super Bowl. 147 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm gonna get ahead coaching job and get 148 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: fired on purpose. Good day. 149 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: But talk to me about your clothing, man. We got 150 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: your T shirt up here. What we got going? 151 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: We got born blessed man, Born blessed talks about man, 152 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: your purpose. Man, You're here for a reason. Everybody born 153 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: for a reason. Everybody got a purpose in life. But 154 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: you ain't gonna just find that. God gonna show you. 155 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: And when you make it there, you figure out why 156 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: you living. You born blessed man. 157 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: Boy, Well, I'll tell you what this ice seed sounds like. 158 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: You're born blessed. I'll tell you what. 159 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: Amazon Jewelers Amazon jewlers bringing down the chest over here. 160 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't bring it. 161 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: Don't don't bring it. They say they bring it. 162 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: Don't bring it, don't bring it, don't bring It's it's 163 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: so great to see the growth and maturity that you've 164 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: shown at this point in your career. Obviously, I saw 165 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: you as a younger man, and I heard a lot 166 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: about you from Junior Adams, who coached. 167 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: You know, June Bug in Dallas. 168 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Man. 169 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: Yes, with them bugging pickings and then. 170 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: Right and getting them right. And he said, he said, 171 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: his experiences with. 172 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: You and Cop get them right because dealing with. 173 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: A different different, different energies. No, that's fire, that's fire. Oh, 174 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: go ahead, go ahead. 175 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: How does it feel coming from Eastern and everything you 176 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: experienced there to this point in your career, that journey 177 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: that you've been through and in the growth that you've shown. 178 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, Like I was talking about Coop, Man, that's 179 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: my God. Man, that's being connected for so long. I 180 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: always talk about you know, God put him in my 181 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: path for a reason. He was grinding when he was there, 182 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: doing the right things. And I didn't understand it at first. 183 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: I was like, man, he get more passes than me. Man, 184 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: he balling more than me. But as I got an 185 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: older now being around him in the league, in our 186 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: in our careers, it's like God was showing me a 187 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: long time ago how to carry myself, how to train, 188 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: how to think, how to operate. 189 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: And that's special. 190 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: But it all led to me and my career, you know, 191 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: and understanding once I got to league. And then when 192 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: you say I was young, I got to the league, 193 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: I was bloy and cheese and having fun. And I'm you, 194 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: ma Church, you get over you start to realize, man, 195 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't need everything. I don't need every I got 196 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: a lot of change on evening wrong, But I've got 197 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: to a point where I can do a little bit now. 198 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: You know you you you buy certain things, you invest right, 199 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: you you do good with your finances, you can move different. 200 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: So I've grown in so many spaces through football. That's 201 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: why I love the game, man, because it it gives 202 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: you so many ventures in life that if you do 203 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: it right. You know what I'm saying you you can 204 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: You can do this for a long time in life. 205 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: No question. 206 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: And you're USO talk about that and and what that 207 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: means to you and and just being able to inspire 208 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: that community. 209 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: Bro, My culture is look, I got some more on 210 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: my chain. I'm promoting my guys. But the love my 211 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: my Siman culture gives and how we we love people, 212 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: it's powerful, man, and I always I keep that in 213 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: my heart. Show love. You know what I'm saying, be caring, 214 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: help people, and my fan amily is a different look. 215 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: I got it. I can't hinder them. I was hindering them. 216 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: How I help him. 217 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: But it's a coach of that that I'm connected to 218 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: and I love and that's part. 219 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: Of my brand too. 220 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: So I got a poly cross on my on my 221 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: on my thing, and it's just it's about keeping what's 222 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: connected real. 223 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you joining me always. It's always love, brother. 224 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Thanks sure, I appreciate you man, since you having me, Bro. 225 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and we have 226 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: an incredible guest today, one of the best corners in 227 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League, Denzel Ward. 228 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: Appreciate you joining me. 229 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: Appreciate you man, Appreciate you having me. 230 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: How you feeling about this Super Bowl? This looks like 231 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: a great matchup. The Patriots have gone through some of 232 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league to get here, and 233 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: obviously the Seahawks have one of the best defenses in 234 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: the league. What do you think the issues are going 235 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: to be for both teams going in? 236 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like you said, it's gonna be a 237 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: great match up. You know, I got a lot of 238 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 5: respect for coach Vrabel and his team and what he's 239 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 5: been able to do in in his first year being 240 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: in New England. But for me personally, if I had 241 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 5: a pick, I think I got Seattle. I'm not just 242 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: saying that, you know, as you on your show right now, 243 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: but no, I think I got Seattle taking it. I 244 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 5: know they got that Buckeye Jackson Jackson, and man, them 245 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: boys been bawling and doing their things, so I'll see 246 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: them taking it by y'all. 247 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: Y'all, Buckeyes. 248 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Put the receivers in the league, now, don't y'all? 249 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: We do, Yeah, y'all have to put. 250 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Some receivers in the league, y'all, and put some great 251 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: corners in the league. Talk about being a corner in 252 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: this league. You've been one of the top corners. We 253 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: talked about that for a long time. And do you 254 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: ever find yourself watching the other corners extingly? 255 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: Certain Gonzales. 256 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, these guys because obviously when I was playing, 257 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: it was revis it was Pat p, it was myself, 258 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Slay was, it was in the league playing well Gilly. 259 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: But you don't, you know, it's a friendly rivalry. It's 260 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: it's hey, I watch, I see what you're doing, and 261 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I go try to strap and put up some numbers 262 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: as well. 263 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 264 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 5: No, it's definitely like that, like I'm friends with all 265 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: those guys. But during the season, like you said, it's 266 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 5: a competition. Like I'm looking like, okay, what they do 267 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 5: this week? You know, they got Jamar Chaz, they got whatever. 268 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: See what they was they stat line against them, how 269 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: many pbu's interceptions and what type of game did they have. 270 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, I got Okay, I got to go out 271 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: and do my thing this next weekend and top that, 272 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 5: you know, just trying to say a step ahead and 273 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 5: just competing like from a distance. 274 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: You know. So I'm definitely keeping eyes. 275 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: On everybody and checking out their game, what they good at, 276 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 5: and try to apply to my game a little bit. 277 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a friendly competition. 278 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly how I felt. That's exactly bro. 279 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: It was to the point where before game sometimes I 280 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: had a stat shee like he got two today. 281 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: All right, I'm going out there hunting exactly. 282 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: But it's a friendly competition, you know. 283 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: We would trade notes sometimes, but also as a corner 284 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: trying to evolve your game. You learn so much about yourself. 285 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: You watch your tape. You know the things you do well, 286 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: you know things you don't do well. That's that's being 287 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: an honest player. The only way you can elevate is 288 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: being able to see what you do well, improve your game, 289 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: work on your weaknesses. But sometimes you see something in 290 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: somebody else's game. I saw something in a key to 291 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Leave's game. His off coverage he played with like a 292 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: real short step and he would just quick shuffle. His 293 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: off was just a quick shuffle. He getting pedal. He 294 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: just quick quick shuffle and then if it was quick game, 295 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: he's transitioning out and if it was if it was long, 296 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: he would have usually flipped his hips and get itself 297 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: into a transition. I was like, I think I could 298 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: play it like that, and it helped my off so much. 299 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: Because everybody running these condensed formations, do you ever find 300 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: yourself and even practice squad dude, sometimes if they had 301 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: something in they bag that I wanted. 302 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: Like exactly. 303 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: I need that. 304 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's the biggest thing. 305 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: Like it don't just have to be from the top 306 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: guys that you're getting things that add to your game 307 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: from like even in practice, like seeing how gods run 308 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: routes or seeing what DB's doing practice and stuff like that, 309 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 5: you could take something from their game. So it's really 310 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: just staying open minded to everybody into the game, you know. 311 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I agree. 312 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: That's the way you keep evolving and staying at the 313 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: top of your game. Talk about Top Monkey, you guys 314 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: just hard top Monkey. He was a coordinator for for 315 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, your rivals for a while. Obviously, Jim Schwartz 316 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: is still under contract. But talk about the good things 317 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: that you've heard about him, and have you had a 318 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: chance to go meet him. 319 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 320 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: I haven't got a chance to meet him yet. He 321 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 5: did text me yesterday. I wanted to reach out to him. 322 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 5: I had the Pro Bowl game though, so I got 323 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 5: to get back to him still. But I heard a 324 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: lot of great things about him, like picked up the 325 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 5: Baltimore's offense. I heard great things of raising Lamar Jackson's 326 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: game and Derrick Henry and just having a dynamic offense. 327 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: So I'm hoping he could bring that to Cleveland. You know, 328 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 5: we need need an amazing offense, and you know, I'm 329 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: hoping they saying he'd have got to do it, so 330 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: we go find out. 331 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Obviously, you're hoping to bring Jim Schwartz back. He's been 332 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: such a fantastic coordinator. You guys have been a top five, 333 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: top three defense for majority of your career. Talk about 334 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: his scheme and what he's meant to you. 335 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: Man, I can't say enough great things about coach Schwartz. 336 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: I feel he's elevating my game. Like I talked about 337 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 5: with Monkin and to Lamar, I feel like that schwarts 338 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 5: to me and a lot of guys on the defense 339 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 5: and on the team. Schwartz, like I said, elevating my game. 340 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 5: Just his scheme is great. I feel he always calling 341 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: a perfect call, putting us in the right position to 342 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 5: make a place. So I'm hoping we could keep him 343 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: on the team. And you know he don't go nowhere else. 344 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 5: You got a great young middle linebacker. How have you 345 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: seen him evolved throughout this season? 346 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: Man? 347 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: I think Swetzinger he came in as a veteran, like 348 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: a veteran as a rookie, so it's been exciting to 349 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: see him grow. Just a great player, should win defensive player, 350 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 5: rookie Defensive Player of the Year, I believe, along with 351 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 5: Miles winning, Garrett win a defensive Player of the Year. 352 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: But just a great player. Man. 353 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: We gonna need him, a good young core talent that 354 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: we got. Were gonna need him for the long run. 355 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: It ain't many times you get a defensive Player of 356 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the Year candidate and a rookie defensive I mean defensive 357 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: rookie of the year Canaday on the same defense and 358 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: y'all not winning at least, you know, but on that roll. 359 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: But y'all you lost your running mate too. 360 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: And people don't understand the relationship that corners have, especially 361 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: the corner that place opposite of a great corner like yourself. 362 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: They get a lot of attention, You get a lot 363 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: more attention than normal. You lose Newsome, but you get 364 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell. How was that for you during the season? 365 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 5: Honestly, it was it was tough at first, Like Greg 366 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: news like, that's my brother, Like you know, we got 367 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: real close over the time that he came into the league, 368 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: and uh like he getting married just all sine and 369 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: go go to his wedding and everything, and they trade 370 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: on So it hurt me, but you know, that's the 371 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: NFL and that's what happened. But Tyson, he had great 372 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: fit for the team, came in, locked in, played man 373 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: and man and and. 374 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: He's just a great dude to be around. 375 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 5: So I think it was still it was a good trade, 376 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: you know that. You know, Greg doing well for Jacksonville 377 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 5: and Tyson doing well, and me and Tyson were coming 378 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: closer and closer. But I think he a great fit 379 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: for the team. 380 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: Though, I agree. I agree with that. 381 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: So what's Cleveland sometimes gets a bad rap, and I 382 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: want to give you a chance today to tell people 383 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: something they don't know about Cleveland, some positive So you know, 384 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: you gotta give Eveland some love. We're gonna give Cleveland. 385 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: A love, right you know, Hey, Lebron from Cleveland. So 386 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: that's all. That's all you gotta say. 387 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 5: Lebron from Cleveland, So that's all you need to know. 388 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: But uh, the Browns man, we about to be about to. 389 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: Bring it, pick it back up, pick it back up. 390 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: This heason to. 391 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: Hopefully make the playoffs, and uh yeah, we're trying to 392 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: win some games and bring some winning back to the city. 393 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: God, I believe that. I believe that Shador Sanders my 394 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: name to the Pro Bowl this year. That was that 395 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: was a little different, they said, they said, y'all had 396 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: two quarter Pro Bowl quarterbacks in flak on Shador so uh, 397 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: but talk about him and with the growth that you've 398 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: seen from him. Obviously as a corner, you see if 399 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: up close and personal, we understand these quarterbacks. We understand 400 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: what they're seeing and the way they they kind of 401 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: try to diagnose and dissect these defenses. 402 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: Did you see the growth that you expected from him 403 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: this season? 404 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been well. I mean, like I said, he 405 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 5: is just a rookie. He got all the confidence in 406 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: the world. I think you need a quarterback position, and 407 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: I think he's going to continue to develop and grow 408 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 5: to a great player. 409 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: And he did well. He did well. 410 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: He made some mistakes, but I mean that's expected for 411 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: a rookie. 412 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: But just his. 413 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 5: Growth and his willingness to want to learn and get better, 414 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: I think it is gonna go a long way for him. 415 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Did you ever find yourself having conversations with him? You know, 416 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: I think they're they're usually corners. Quarterbacks and corners sometimes 417 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: quarterback and receivers, receivers in corners have those conversations what 418 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: did you see here? Especially great players like yourself, You 419 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: did you find yourself going up to him and like, hey, 420 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I saw you do this, I saw you giving away 421 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 1: this tale or you trying to let him learn now 422 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the whole. 423 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really letting him learn the hard way. 424 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: You know. 425 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 5: I definitely stay in his ear, though, but the mostly 426 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: conversations just trash talk, like you know, I'm about to 427 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 5: pick you off all day and practice today, and you. 428 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: Know it's mostly just a trash talk. 429 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: But I definitely try to stay in his ear, and 430 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: you know, I'm always here for whenever he needs some 431 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: advice him about something or if I got a question, 432 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: you know, I go ask him and see what he saw. 433 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: You've been in the league long enough to ask you 434 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: this question. How much different is the league than you 435 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be when you were a kid 436 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: growing up and watching it versus you playing in it 437 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: and getting to be an elite player in it. 438 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. I think when I growing 439 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: up watching it, I thought like, oh, man, like the 440 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: NFL is just like, I don't know, like a juggernaut, 441 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: like guys is just unbeatable, and you know, you just 442 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: the guys are the top of the top. But once 443 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: I actually got to the NFL, and like, I'm like, okay, 444 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 5: I could play with these guys, Like guys are beatable. 445 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: You know, it's gonna be good players. Like you said, 446 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 5: it's gonna be great players, but guys could be being 447 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: on any given day. 448 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: It still is juggernaut. You just happen to be. 449 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: You sit there and you look at it, like, oh man, 450 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: these guys can be played with. But it's because you're 451 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: one of the top athletes in the world. But that 452 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: was the thing when I came in, it was so 453 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: much different than I expected. It was. Once you get 454 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: here and you have the confidence to understand you belong 455 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: here and you can be dominant, you can play at 456 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: a high level. 457 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: Then it changed the game for that. 458 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: You know how I approach it is, I'm approaching human beings, 459 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm approaching schemes. I'm studying the scheme, seeing, hey, this 460 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: offense coordinated likes to do it. Diss in this situation. 461 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: I have yet to see a receiver that calls his 462 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: own play. So from that perspective, I'm like, hey, you 463 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: might run fox two four three, you may jump out 464 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: of the gym and all that, but if he say 465 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: you running. 466 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: A curl, you better run the curl. You know that's 467 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: where the ball go be. 468 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: That's what a ball gonna be. 469 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: We in San Francisco a couple of times we would 470 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: play and we be in practice and a receiver would 471 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: just just run the wrong route because I've run the 472 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: route for him, Nigue, I'm already running there. If it's cral, 473 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm already breaking. And they make up routes and Kyle 474 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: used to go off. That's the most fun I have 475 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: watching him, Like, you can't just make stuff up because 476 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't play exactly. 477 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: You can't change the rout up. 478 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: No, you can't. And once I knew that, it changed 479 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: the way I played this game, and I think that's 480 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: what helped me play at a different level. What do 481 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: you think gives you the advantage that you have to 482 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: play at the level you have for so long. 483 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 5: I think one consistency, just staying consistent and my workouts, 484 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: my routine, Like I found a great routine coming into 485 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: the NFL, and just really just being able to stick. 486 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: I know what works for me. 487 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 5: But it don't work for me, and just sticking to that, 488 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 5: you know, not getting complacent and any anything that goes on, 489 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 5: and just continue to stick to it. And yeah, I 490 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 5: would say that's the biggest thing for me. 491 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: What what what have you changed about your off season 492 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: routine as you've gotten older and I don't mean older 493 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: like that, but just as you've matured in this leng 494 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: and really have an understanding of what you need and 495 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: what you don't need. Is it spending more time with family, 496 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: is it working out more, is it the training facility, 497 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: is it the diet? 498 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 3: What is it? Yeah, that's a good question. 499 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: I think like initially, what I learned like going into 500 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: like soon as the seasons over with, is really taking 501 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: that break, like you know, I don't need to be 502 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 5: football every single day, you know, so really just kind 503 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: of taking a break and clearing my mind and then 504 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 5: once I do get back to it, still staying in 505 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: shape like working out and getting those lifts in and 506 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: stuff like that. But just finding that routine I think 507 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 5: is the biggest thing for me. I got a routine 508 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 5: that I feel worse, and like I said, diet, whether 509 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: it's the diet, workouts, and then just sticking to that 510 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: year in and year out. You know, I don't really 511 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: change too much in it, and I feel it helps 512 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 5: me out every year. 513 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, creatures are habit. We have that, creatures a habit. 514 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing for me, because 515 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: when you're young and you want to you want so 516 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: of the seasons over. You're like, man, I want to 517 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: get back to working out and I want to get 518 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: back to lifting and get back on the field. And 519 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: then you get to this and your body hurt, me 520 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: sore and you having hamstring and calf issues in training camp, 521 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, you didn't get your body a big 522 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: enough break. You know after the season that he'll love 523 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: to recover and to do with all the things you necessary. 524 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: So it's it's great that you found that routine. What's 525 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: what's your goals in the future, outside of obviously the 526 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: team goals, super Bowl and playoffs, what are your personal goals? 527 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 5: Personal goals, I would say defensive player of the Year, 528 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 5: definitely keep stacking on the Pro Bowls, Super Bowl, and 529 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: just really like my main goal. 530 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: Every year is just to be that guy at. 531 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 5: The corner position, Like they need me to go out 532 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: there and be a dominated number one corner, take away 533 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 5: my side of the field, and that's what that's my 534 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 5: goal to go out there, don't give them no catches, 535 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 5: make plays, and just be that guy for the team. 536 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: You know, somebody that could be counted on you, dang 537 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: sure counted on right. 538 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: Now and and and when you're that guy, your pockets 539 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: get counted on. So I'm happy to see you getting 540 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: what you deserve and continue to play at a high level. 541 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: Let me know if you got any questions for me. 542 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to hold up your whole day. 543 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. 544 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: No, I definitely got a question here with a great 545 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame player, great talent. So I'll say, what 546 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 5: separated you or what allowed you to play in such 547 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: an elite level throughout your years in the NFL. 548 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: I think it was the mental side of it. 549 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: I think understanding the coordinators, understanding situational football. When I trained, 550 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: I tried to make sure I kept it mental even 551 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: when I'm training, even when I'm fatigued, and even when 552 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm working my body and my body's breaking down and 553 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: we're running gasers, I'm let my brain function because a 554 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of times you're in those situations in the game 555 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: that's when it's passed w It's not when you're comfortable 556 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: and you're feeling good and you're doing all this. It's 557 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: when you dead tired, your shoulder kind of hurt because 558 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: you just made a tack with you a little bit dazed, 559 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: and you're like, it's third and five. Can I remember 560 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: the concept that I run on thirty five? I remember 561 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: the concept they run it on third and eight out 562 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: of a bunch, Like, Hey, when the receiver going motion 563 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: and come back? Is it that double follow? Is it 564 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: that drive? Does it drive basic? Is it spot seven? 565 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: What is the route concept? And I would challenge myself 566 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: when I'm super fatigued to be able to diagnose and 567 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: really digest that information. And it helped in a lot 568 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: of those games, because when you get those big games, 569 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: it's a two minute drive. You're seeing Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, 570 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: You're seeing these dudes, and you gotta process it. It 571 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: can't and that's the most uncomfortable time. And I think 572 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that's the hardest thing for guys, even when they're great 573 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: in the classroom and even when they can go and 574 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: walk through and diagnose it and you figured it out 575 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: in practice, can you do it in that game when 576 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: the lights is brightish, she's tired, you're hurting, and be 577 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: out there and go up and make the play. It's 578 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: something to be able to see it and hey, I 579 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: know it's curl, I know it's dig and do this, 580 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: but can you break? And then when the ball come 581 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: and can I get the booking? 582 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 5: So that's why I want to ask you too, So 583 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 5: what makes you comfortable in those high tense situations? So 584 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: you're going against Tom Brady like two minutes on the clock, 585 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 5: you know, tod game, Like, what makes you comfortable in 586 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: those high pressure situations? 587 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: It was something that Pete Carroll really preached to us 588 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: throughout our time. Everything is a championship game every like 589 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: if you came to our practices, it'll make a lot 590 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: more sense because our practices were like games, like we 591 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: out there. 592 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: Like trying to kill each other. 593 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: In fact, we out there full speed yet attacking like 594 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: so when you get in the game, it's easier than 595 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: practice because they're not matching the intensity a lot of 596 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: times every now and then they are, but for the 597 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: most part, like we never turn off, So that's what 598 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: makes it tough, and offseason, when it's time to turn 599 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: turn it down. They'd be like, you know, our thing 600 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: was turned down for what Like we were running and 601 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: hitting everything moving. So just just making sure that we 602 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: took everything that serious. And and the guys around I 603 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: would say, held that standard. Like you got Bobby Wagner, 604 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: you got Earl Thomas, you got Cam Chancer, you got 605 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: Mike Bennett. 606 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: You got real we had some boys. So the standard 607 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 4: is the standard all the time. 608 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: And when you when you have that, you consistently are 609 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: getting pushed every day like we if y'all don't if 610 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: y'all want the offense to move the ball, don't put 611 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: them out here with us. Like if y'all it's the 612 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: off season you want you want us to not go 613 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: after the ball, you want us to not, then don't 614 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: put them out here, and don't put us out here. 615 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 4: Sure they're gonna find you. They're gonna take your draft picks. 616 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: If you put that ball up, we're going for It's 617 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just kind of guys. 618 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: We work real, that's real. I appreciate that, man. 619 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: It was great having you. 620 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: Man. I appreciate you. I appreciate you taking the time 621 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: to be on here with me. I got a lot 622 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: of respect for your game, and I want to keep 623 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: in contact. 624 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: Likewise, man, I appreciate. 625 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And today we 626 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: got an incredible guest receiver for the Green Bay Packers, 627 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs. Appreciate you joining me, brother, I appreciate you. 628 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: So you've been with the Packers your whole career. Talk 629 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: me through your journey with them. It's been an incredible deal. 630 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, it looks like you've had a tremendous amount 631 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: of success, gotten better every year, been really dominant on 632 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the field. 633 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 4: But tell me how you see things going. 634 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 6: I thought my growth internally was the biggest thing for me. 635 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 6: I know, because I know football, that's another world. I 636 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 6: know that's the main thing. But I just want to say, yeah, 637 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 6: those four years outside of football, I thought just my 638 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 6: growth as a human also aligned with just some of 639 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 6: my football player you know what I mean? And yeah, 640 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 6: I mean I love the organization. I love how they 641 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 6: how they're structured. I love the process on how they 642 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 6: go about things, and ultimately, if you just go down 643 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 6: the line of who's been there, like, it shows that 644 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 6: they give opportunities for the players not only to grow 645 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: in the football world, but just as a person as well. Man, 646 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 6: And you know, I appreciate Green Bay dearly, and yeah, bro, 647 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 6: I mean I love the organization. 648 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Man, You've you've played fantastic and you never know how 649 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: other places are because you know, your experience is only 650 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: the team you played for and you got drafted to 651 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay. 652 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: How different? What's that? 653 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: Because from the outside looking at it, I've only played 654 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: there a few times, we've gone there with Thursday night football, 655 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: but it looks like such a close knit community, it's 656 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: such a great fan base obviously, such a historic team. 657 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 4: But what you've been your experience as a player, I thought, just. 658 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: That's a great question, man. 659 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 6: I think it just I feel like everything was so 660 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 6: on time, just how everything. 661 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: Played out throughout my years. 662 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 6: Like it wasn't like I was a guy that came 663 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 6: in and had a blazing season, you know what I'm saying, 664 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 6: Like every year it was it was something you know 665 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, playing ball and you know, again, just 666 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 6: and in a situation alone like it, especially this year specifically, 667 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 6: it gave me an opportunity to actually I wouldn't say 668 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 6: I will being a leader, you know, because again our 669 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 6: team was so young where there was no guy that 670 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 6: was in year seven, year eight, that can literally show 671 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 6: us the ropes where in this case we were growing 672 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 6: as a unit. And I emphasized that. I want to say, 673 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 6: going into my second year being under Matt Lafleur, you 674 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: know what I mean, y'all. 675 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and I guess your entire team, your entire 676 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: at least offensively, have preached this. You know, everybody he 677 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: eats kind of what Buffalo says. But you guys have 678 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: said the same thing. Like, you guys have a really 679 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: great receiver receiving group. You know, Christian Watson, you, Matthew Golden, Read, 680 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: so many guys that you know, at any given time 681 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: can just go off and take the game over. But 682 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: but in some capacities, I know, you know, just being honest, 683 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: And then I've said this a few times, but I 684 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: know how receivers are and mentally everybody feels the other guy, 685 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: and when when the ball spreads around like that, there 686 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: could be a little bit of frustration and divisiveness. 687 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 4: But your group hasn't. 688 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like, at least from outside looking in, 689 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: you guys haven't dealt with that. You guys have been 690 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: really unselfish really supportive of one another and talked me 691 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: through that. 692 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: How how that receiver room is so tight? 693 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: Uh, like you said, man, just supporting one another, bro. 694 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: And again like when again you get in the game 695 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 6: and you know, Jayden takeover. 696 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm taking pride of my blocking. 697 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's just what it 698 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 6: That's just what it was, you know what I mean. 699 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: And ultimately, I mean just being around them, it was amazing. 700 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 6: And like I said before, the biggest reason for it, 701 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 6: it was just our growth, bro, And I apprecate all your. 702 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Long man, But when it comes down to this time, 703 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: when you finally become a free agent, it leads to 704 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: that question, can you be a true number one receiver 705 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: in the National Football League? And I think teams are 706 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: gonna want that question answered. Obviously your play answers it, 707 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: but the opportunities are limited for them to see that. 708 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 6: What do you have to say to those teams? I mean, 709 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 6: I believe I could be a number one guy. That's 710 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 6: a no brainer. 711 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: But it's just I mean, yeah, I don't really got nothing. 712 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: But it's on the field. You have been fantastic. 713 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: You're an incredible deep ball runner, You're incredible route runner. 714 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: When the balls in the air, you're You're a great guy. 715 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: You win a lot of those matchups. Talk about what 716 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: you could do with the amount of opportunities some of 717 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: these receives get, because some of these receivers are. 718 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: Geting one hundred and fifty targets. Again, I mean a year. 719 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: It's like, you give me one hundred and fifty targets, 720 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm going crazy. 721 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that's any that's any receiver. You know what 722 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I thought, again, just being under this system, 723 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 6: I did a fantastic job just making the most of 724 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 6: my opportunity of what. 725 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: I was given being there. 726 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: Because again, man, everybody in that room can go ahead 727 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 6: any moment, bro, So no question. 728 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: So what what would you want for the future? Obviously 729 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: you've been with Green Bay your entire career. Would you 730 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: want to stay there? Have those conversations happen? Have you 731 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: started to walk down the avenue or are you just 732 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: letting your agent handle everything? 733 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna let my agent handle everything because again, 734 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 6: you know, I'm new to this. I do have Again, 735 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 6: I have some experience under my belt, but I don't 736 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 6: want to do too much. I'm gonna let him do 737 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 6: his job. He's amazing at what he does. And yeah, man, 738 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 6: I'm gonna just leave everything unknown because it's a lot 739 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 6: there right now. 740 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk through this season, because you guys came in. 741 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: I thought you guys were amongst the super both favorites 742 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: coming into the year. You got you got Jordan Love 743 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: and he's been incredible. He's been talking about him as 744 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: a teammate and how he's helped elevate your game and 745 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: the guys around him in the growth that you've seen. 746 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this bro. 747 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, because I mean I've been around Jordan. I 748 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: mean I was around him obviously when Aaron was there, 749 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 6: my rookie before he took off or whatnot. But I 750 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 6: just thought his growth just as a player and the 751 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 6: system as a human, I just think it's amazing to 752 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 6: see because not only is he the same person, but 753 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 6: just some of the traits that he's been able to 754 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 6: add on amongst himself. I just thought it was really 755 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 6: I thought it was really great to. 756 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: See, man. 757 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: I thought I thought in that playoff game against Chicago 758 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: that might have been his best game of the season. 759 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: I thought he executed the offense really well. What do 760 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: you feel like went wrong in that game. I felt 761 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: like you guys were in complete control. We had the game, 762 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: so you guys were in the ball well with Josh 763 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Jacobs early on, you guys freaking were controlling that. It 764 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: looks like he was unstoppable in that game. You guys 765 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: passed the ball efficiently, and then things in the second 766 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: half just kind of fell apart. 767 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: What did you see? 768 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 6: I don't you know, and I still question it, But 769 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 6: ultimately there's a winner, there's a loser. Clearly the winner 770 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 6: had the better game plan. And again I'm just being 771 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 6: on the bright side of things. Obviously, losing in the 772 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 6: league is not it, and yeah, it just gives me 773 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: something to learn from, the grow from, and obviously just 774 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 6: be better moving forward. 775 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: You talk about you're talking to somebody who know heartbreak 776 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: from loss. Now you're talking to somebody who knows whose 777 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: heart's been broken. 778 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: So believe you be. 779 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: I know how much it hurts losing those playoffs, But 780 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: you guys just played such a had such a great 781 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: offensive season, You played such a great game that way, 782 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and I just I really admire how you guys support 783 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: one another, because in the league that can be incredibly 784 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: individual and selfish. You guys show an unselfishness in that room. 785 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: That's that's uncommon. Yes, yeah, man, So talk to me 786 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: about Lafleur. How great of a coach he is? 787 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: Oh, man, I love I love the floor man, you 788 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 6: know now that man, Yeah, I'm gonna take my time 789 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 6: with this one. Brouh great offensive mind and he's a 790 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 6: huge part of you know, I am where I am 791 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 6: now just in terms of just my football knowledge and 792 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 6: just understanding the game, understanding the situations. 793 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: I give I give him a ton of credit for that. Bro. 794 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 6: I just think, you know, he's very upfront, just honest, 795 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 6: and very understanding, you know what I mean. So yeah, 796 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 6: I mean the system that he runs. A lot of 797 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 6: teams run, you know, in some version of that system. 798 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 6: So it's easy to see how you could fit in 799 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 6: other places because so many of these teams have have 800 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 6: really tried to pattern their offensive scheme behind him, and 801 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 6: they sha and you know, which is a really cool 802 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 6: scheme which gives you a lot of opportunities in my mind, 803 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 6: But you know, we're not to go. 804 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: There. 805 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 6: But I appreciate you. You got anything for me? I appreciate you, man, 806 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 6: you know, glad to meet you in person. That's you 807 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Amazing ball player. Thank you, no 808 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 6: problem at all. 809 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you joining my brother, an honor to 810 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: have your own good luck down the line, and I 811 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: hope you get all the money you deserve.