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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.

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Speaker 1: Alah and welcome to Cannabis Talking one oh one. My

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Speaker 1: name is Blue, alongside of me, Mark and Craig Wasserman,

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Speaker 1: the Pot Brothers at Law and Mr Joe Grande. Hello there,

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Speaker 1: Christopher Right Shelom and we have a fantastic show for

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Speaker 1: you today. Joe, let us know what's going down. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mark is at wass Law, Craigs at wash Law, Dog

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Speaker 1: Blue is at one Christopher Right and I am at

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande fifty two And today you guys, we have

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Speaker 1: a very special show for you because earlier I was

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Speaker 1: talking to oh, put your phones on silent, but if

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Speaker 1: it's not on side that this is what happens when

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Speaker 1: one of your boys calls you. And this is his

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Speaker 1: ring tone, which is which famous person is? Never know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna call you? Never know? But right now JT,

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Speaker 1: the bigger figure from San Francisco, gotta be on hold.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Um. The cool part about what I was

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Speaker 1: leading into about the show today is I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Mark Wasserman, and Mark settled a case and I go, Mark,

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Speaker 1: the cliff notes that you gave me, you gotta walk

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Speaker 1: the listeners through and walk me through the whole scenario.

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Speaker 1: You gave me the three to five minute version. I

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Speaker 1: want the twenty five minute version of this story because

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Speaker 1: it was so intense. And he goes, I gotta go

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Speaker 1: right now. I go white, go right down everything. Give

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Speaker 1: it to me where we have the first segment, second sement,

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Speaker 1: third time, because folks, you're gonna want to stick around

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Speaker 1: to hear the end of this because it is fucking awesome.

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Speaker 1: It is so Mark Wasserman, without further ado from the

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Speaker 1: Pop Brothers at Law, how did this case come to

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Speaker 1: you all? Right, and this is what we're calling when

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Speaker 1: cannabis goes bad, but not really, but not really, so

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Speaker 1: I'll do what we do out of the out of California.

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Speaker 1: The headline reads, or would read if I wrote it,

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Speaker 1: electrical fire leads to bust of cannabis cultivation farm. Now

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that for a minute. What exactly does

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Speaker 1: that mean? An electrical fire. So you've heard us talk

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Speaker 1: at nauseum about people's rights and you know, cops coming,

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Speaker 1: they need a warrant, you know, never consent to searches

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff that helps us get cases dismissed

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Speaker 1: when cops do things the wrong way and violate your

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Speaker 1: rights and do illegal searches. But when something happens and

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Speaker 1: they don't need a warrant. They don't. That is probable cause.

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Speaker 1: And you're kind of screwed. You are very so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know some examples, right, We've represented people who we're

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Speaker 1: Pop Brothers at law after being arrested for an ill yes,

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Speaker 1: like it's a let's go to camp. What happens Mark? Now? So,

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously you know that that's a great deal

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Speaker 1: You said that twice, now you said earlier and right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one. Mark is

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Speaker 1: to trial now or we're ready to go? Which I

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Speaker 1: told my client what happened, and he said, you know,

424
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Speaker 1: I'll take the deal. I'll take the deal, and I

425
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Speaker 1: go right I go, I know you will, I know

426
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Speaker 1: you will, and and you know what if if this

427
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Speaker 1: is where it remains, then you'll take the deal because

428
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Speaker 1: he started tap dancing. When you hear like now they

429
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Speaker 1: want to go to trial, there's always that chance, right, Like,

430
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Speaker 1: you can't sit there and go, okay, well, it's term

431
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Speaker 1: of art, term of art for attorneys. What does that mean?

432
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: Jack at the offer, which means I'm when I tell

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Speaker 1: a d a jack at the offer, that means that

434
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Speaker 1: offer is staying open until I'm told okay, you take it.

435
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Speaker 1: It's gone. So that's lawyer talked with the creator Jack

436
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Speaker 1: Jacket Jacket, and you literally will say that you said

437
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Speaker 1: a lot. I said, will you jack at the offer?

438
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: Will you jack at the offer? And more often than

439
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: not they'll say yes, yeah. And what happens at that

440
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: point then they get one more chance to say it's clients,

441
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: we're going to trial, but we're taking this off the

442
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: offer today. And he could have probably said that in

443
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Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, the could have said that day you

444
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: take this, we're done. If we're gonna if we're saying

445
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Speaker 1: we're going to trial, the offers closed you. But that

446
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. That didn't happen. That was awesome. So that's

447
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Speaker 1: a good feeling for you. Then going hey, man, it's there,

448
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: don't trip, it's there, right and so okay, so the

449
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: case was continued. What is that again, they'll give us

450
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Speaker 1: the last scenario. No, No, it's thirty days in jail,

451
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Speaker 1: thirty days county jail, two years informal probation, fourth waiver,

452
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Speaker 1: violating no laws, eighty hours of community service. Okay, now

453
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Speaker 1: two and a half months later to today's day to day,

454
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Speaker 1: this is a day today. What was blue here it

455
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Speaker 1: goes is what was called a trial setting conference where

456
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Speaker 1: we were going in to set the trial date. That

457
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Speaker 1: was the plan as far as the d A knew,

458
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: we were going ready to set the trial date. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I was assumingly ready to do. But I

460
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Speaker 1: was going to start with the d A by saying, okay,

461
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Speaker 1: you know what trial date, and then see what is

462
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: going to say and like you know, in May one,

463
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna start taking a mile, we're going to court.

464
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: So I actually I said, you know what trial date?

465
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Speaker 1: Dad day, and we were actually looking at calendars and

466
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Speaker 1: looking at your FaceTime. You guys just on the phone.

467
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Speaker 1: It's on the phone virtual and it's the d himself. Correct.

468
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: And then the videos the conference with the court and

469
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I'm beforehand this particular judge and

470
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Speaker 1: all judges are different, wanted the d A and I

471
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Speaker 1: to talk first, so we're all ready and they know

472
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Speaker 1: what's going on when we actually get in front of

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Speaker 1: the judge and have to talk to judge. So I said,

474
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Speaker 1: as we were doing that, I go, you got a

475
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: new offer for me out there? I mean, easy, you

476
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Speaker 1: tell me something where I don't hear jail I think

477
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: we could again in this case. Did you say that too? Yeah,

478
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: of course, no jail time, everything else, you know whatever,

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00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: no jail time, you know, And so I get the

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Speaker 1: new offer. What is it? Does he hold on? Does

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Speaker 1: he pause? Does the d A pause? How's that reaction

482
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Speaker 1: when you say this? So? And this is great and

483
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: this is the great thing with attorneys adversarial and it's like,

484
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Speaker 1: this is a nice gal that I would come. I

485
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Speaker 1: got to know every time we So you've you've have

486
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Speaker 1: interactions with this d A before you've done you've done cases. Yeah, yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: And even if it's just the first time on anyone

488
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Speaker 1: particular case, it's it's a year going and we've been

489
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: corresponding back and forth, chopped it out, and it's no

490
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Speaker 1: secret who we are. You know. You know what's funny

491
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Speaker 1: is I forget that. I forget that right right now

492
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Speaker 1: in my head. I forgot that the d A might

493
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Speaker 1: be going, oh ship, that's Mr Mark Washington, not that

494
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a celebrity attorney. Yeah, and in

495
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: their file is my card stapled to it? Right, So

496
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: if they don't know, they're like pomp brothers what is

497
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: And then they're googling and you know, and so that

498
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Speaker 1: leads your videos, very good videos. By the way, Maybe

499
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: tell your clients a little better. Huh yeah, thanks, and

500
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: tell your big brother Comma's hair better. Wait till she

501
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: was a new pet, I did have a d A

502
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: one say well this this client didn't nest tf you okay?

503
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Speaker 1: So so now all right? So so I said, yeah,

504
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: a new offer for me, and she kind of laughed

505
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: at it, was like a little laugh and uh, she goes, yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: I do, and she didn't sound too happy about it.

507
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get the you know, I don't ask or anything,

508
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: but I got the feeling that somebody up there, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: the supervisor, whoever somebody up there was, you know, saying

510
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Speaker 1: this is what you need to do. Is my guess.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but one year informal probation. Hold on

512
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: a second, this is the final offer. This is what

513
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: she said. This is this is the final offer. And

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00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: she she did say, this is this. They take this

515
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: or we are going to trial. Okay, one year informal probation, violate,

516
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: no laws, fourth waiver. I'm done, guys. So no jail time. Nope, no, no, no, no,

517
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Speaker 1: just one year probation. How amazing is that? Exactly? Service?

518
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Speaker 1: No jail time. I'm going back to the game. Let's go.

519
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are really fucking contemplating it right now.

520
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: Hold on, you really are. Stop you're not cut it out?

521
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Cut out? I mean, this is beautiful. For every one

522
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: of those did he give you a he a dozen

523
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: others that got to cut a deal and go to

524
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Speaker 1: jail for some time. So this is like a rare

525
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: case of I gotta know where wou. I wouldn't say rare,

526
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: but I mean, these these types of cases and these

527
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: settlements only happen when everything's right. I mean, if I

528
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Speaker 1: had a different d a who hate Maryland, when I

529
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: get those guys, you know, it's like a deal like

530
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna happen. You know she likes you. How

531
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: many plants to how many? Two thousand plants? Blue? No

532
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: jail time, no community services any year, probation only. And

533
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. I think it's real quick. I mean,

534
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: that's crazy. What kind of what? What? What? What? What

535
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: does this man look like? That's a good I mean,

536
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, is your white boys black Mexican? That's a

537
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: good question. I'm just saying, that's a great question. You know,

538
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Speaker 1: I'm a little brouder than the white How about this?

539
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but granted it's your last name. Did they

540
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Speaker 1: even see the person? They've seen him? Is it? I'm

541
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: going to tell you, no, I can't. I can't. You

542
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: can't say he's a minority. No, no, no no, I can't. Yes, no,

543
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: the answer to that is yes, but he's a brown

544
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: or black or what? Can you go that far? Sure? Brown?

545
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: He might be your cousin. Okay, that's fair, that job. Yeah,

546
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: he's got last name. It sounded like a grande a

547
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: last name. That might be your cousin. I don't know

548
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: my last name works. They don't even know right here, buppy. No,

549
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: but in all seriousness, actually his last name you wouldn't

550
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: really know to tell you the truth. You wouldn't know

551
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: from the last name that he was a minority. But

552
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: there's a booking picture of you know and all that,

553
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: so you know, so they know. But it was, it

554
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: was a phenomenal deal. And you know, nobody should go

555
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: to jail for it. Nobody should be arrested for it

556
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: in the whole nine yards. But I'm just in that

557
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: same city. If next door is popping pit, you ready,

558
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: let's go do what a great story that is? Right?

559
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: Help to have more in the future. Well that's California

560
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: based people, though, you know, I mean just you know,

561
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: we have so many listeners across the world that I

562
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: want to get that word out. Like, look, if you

563
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: if you're in New York, if you're if you're in Mexico,

564
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, different states they may not be

565
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: so nice. And you screwed doing Kansas, You're going down,

566
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean you know it's going down. So

567
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: there it is. Maybe Oregon you'll be okay, Maybe Washington

568
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: you'll be fine, you know the better, but no matter

569
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: what you stunk up when cops ask questions. Yeah, and

570
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: and and one last thing, guys, I really want to

571
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: say this is get licensed you know what I'm saying,

572
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Just get licensed, do it right, especially if you're rocking

573
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: two thousand, I mean two thousand plants. Don't to give

574
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: an idea a box of them like this. If they're

575
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: small ones, you know where they fully mature playing huge? Really,

576
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: are you seeing the pictures and everything? He said, of

577
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: course he's seen them. Did you get any Yeah, I'm

578
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: sure he had a stash. Father show. They destroyed all

579
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: the medicine. Gosh man, and then they took all the

580
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: candidate They didn't get back. That would have been sweet.

581
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, we can't get that back when it's illegal.

582
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: If it was a license, why didn't he just pull

583
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: it out? I mean, one, I know we're going back.

584
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Why didn't he just pull it out and run there?

585
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Would have tossed it out the window, and I got

586
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: all kinds of sneaky. You need to have your boys

587
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: meet you at two three four trucks to get that

588
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: out quick enough, especially if they were big. Not the

589
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: plants I'm saying, the and I always kept something chop it.

590
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: I would always had something to chop it, you know

591
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, Just bag it up and boom, we're out,

592
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Like literally, what was growing there tomatoes, nothing, nothing, nothing,

593
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: There's a stem right here. It is guys, this Cannabis

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Speaker 1: Talk one one. We want to thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to this show and remember this if no one else

596
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Speaker 1: loves you, wait, thank you are listening to Cannabis Talk

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