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Speaker 2: Colts at the Falcons, Seahawks at the Titans, Lions at

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Speaker 2: the Vikings, Commanders at the Jets, Packers at the Panthers,

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Speaker 2: Browns at the Texans, and Ritchie. Good to see you

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Speaker 2: here on this Christmas Eve, getting ready for another big

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Speaker 2: day in the NFL. At a couple of games yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and we've got two games in particular this morning of

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Speaker 2: a lot of interest. The Lions trying to wrap up

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Speaker 2: an NFC North championship. They're on the road against a

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Speaker 2: Vikings team still battling to get them into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And then this Browns Texans game. The Texans have been

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable story this year. They sit an eight and

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Speaker 2: six a team that most people thought would be lucky

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Speaker 2: to win three games this year. They have a chance

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs. And the Browns, I mean, let's put

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Speaker 2: it this way, week sixteen, if you had circled this

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Speaker 2: game week sixteen before the season again said all right,

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Speaker 2: first of all, both these teams will be in playoff contection. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the quarterbacks will be Joe Flacco and case Keenum.

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Speaker 2: This is how ridiculous this season has been in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But to god, Joe Flacco and Case Keenum guiding two

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Speaker 2: teams that no one thought were gonna be much of

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Speaker 2: Well it is. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: We were just having a conversation that had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with football. But if you stick around long enough,

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Speaker 1: eventually good things will happen in your career. There is

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Speaker 1: a there's a certain, I don't know what you want

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Speaker 1: to call it, career durability that a guy like Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: guy like Case Keenum will have as backup quarterbacks after

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Speaker 1: lot to learn and maybe he's not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: Or you have a quarterback in front of you gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: with higher potential than you have in your career, and

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Speaker 1: he gets hurt too, and all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 1: foisted into action off your couch, like Joe Flacco, the

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Speaker 1: fourth starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns this year, or

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Speaker 1: Stroud has led this team admirably to where they are

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Speaker 1: today in playoff contention, in the wildcard race and the AFC,

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Speaker 1: and Case Keenum steps in and plays a mind blowingly

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Speaker 1: this year. We have a huge pass down the middle

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Speaker 2: They're inside the five yard line of the Texans. You're ignoring,

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Speaker 2: of course, Chris Now watching his Lions trying to wrap

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Speaker 2: well as they're approaching midfield in this game against the Vikings. Look,

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Speaker 2: you know rich I was talking about this last week.

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Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks in the NFL. The numbers are just down

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Speaker 2: across the board, brock Perty being the exception, obviously. But

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Speaker 2: Look at the Indianapolis Colts. Oh perfect. You know Shane Steichen,

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Speaker 2: Is anyone looking better? I mean, that connection to Pickens

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Speaker 1: It's it's exactly what George Pickens has been waiting for

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Speaker 1: sports betters wanting to take the over on every single

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Speaker 1: player prop that they bet for their home team, if

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Speaker 1: you don't have a good offense and you're not winning

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Speaker 1: So I think that Look, I'm not saying, well, we

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, I don't think that Mason Rudolph, for Kenny

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Speaker 2: The Browns have just scored on their opening drive, take

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Speaker 2: a seven to nothing league while pending the.

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Speaker 3: Extra point right now, So it's Ford who gets in

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Speaker 2: Also the Colts opening drive on the road against the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: a second at eight. Gardner Minshew off to a hearts

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Speaker 2: the mustache though? Oh yeah, but I mean it's so Minshew. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me see this. Oh dude, yeah, is that Gardner Minshew?

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Speaker 2: And you should keep it forever? How love that?

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Speaker 1: But that guy that is that is a hell of

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Speaker 2: That is a Gardner Man she must have. That is

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Speaker 2: I can't do anything like that. He's got a push

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Speaker 2: broom on his face. He really does so right now,

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Speaker 2: it's just amazing. I mean, look, I am looking at

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Speaker 2: the standings right now in both the the conferences and

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Speaker 2: most of the teams at the top have their quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You got Rock Purty, you got Dak Prescott, you got

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. Jalen Hurts is still in there. Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about a team the Rams that

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Speaker 2: I predicted last year Seattle would be the worst team

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Speaker 2: I predicted the Rams would be the worst team in

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Speaker 2: need is one more win to clinch a playoff position.

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Speaker 1: Well, and what's a little bit different in my opinion

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Speaker 1: is the Seahawks had Gino Smith. The Rams have a

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Speaker 2: And that was the question when healthy, because well, you know,

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Speaker 2: I completely amazing this year.

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Speaker 1: And you know, because we've had these conversations all throughout

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Speaker 1: the season and in the preseason, I said to you,

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Speaker 1: better than people think they are. You have Hall of

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Speaker 1: famers everywhere you look. Cooper Cup is on his way.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford I think is a lock. Aaron Donald most

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Speaker 2: Remember knock on the Rams was they have zero depth.

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Speaker 2: I mean they they overextended themselves to get that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They've been trying to, you know, dump salary as best

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Speaker 2: they could. But everyone said the Rams are okay if

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Speaker 2: they can stay healthy. Yeah, because they have no depth

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Speaker 2: clinching a playoffs spot. I mean, Matthew Stafford comeback player

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Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, you look at kyn Williams.

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Speaker 1: What he's meant to this run game Rams.

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at I mean, you gonna have

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Speaker 1: What was that on Thursday night? That was an unbelievable performance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Cooper cup esque. That was what

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Speaker 1: we got used to seeing two years ago in LA

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Speaker 1: with Cooper Cup. So look, yeah, football is a war

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Speaker 1: of attrition. We all know that, and nobody is lucky

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Speaker 1: enough to not have any injuries. But they had some

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Speaker 1: bad luck to start this season. Cooper Cup wasn't available

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Speaker 1: had already found Puka Nakua, who had really carried the

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Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford, and they built up some trust. So

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Speaker 1: oddly enough, probably the biggest injury that hampered them this

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Speaker 2: All Right. The Colts now have a third and goal

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Speaker 2: Lions meanwhile, have a first down at the Vikings sixteen

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Speaker 2: and they're opening drive at home against the Commanders. Trevor Simeon.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Simeon, that's right, is the quarterback for the Jets

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Speaker 2: right now. And that's a whole other story.

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Speaker 2: We're just getting started right now. Six games around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We got some huge games later today with the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: and the Dolphins, and of course that unbelievable maybe Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl preview matchup tomorrow between the Ravens and the forty

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Speaker 2: The Vikings, amazingly are just two and four at home.

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Speaker 1: He just he couldn't see the long view. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: you want to call the perfect play, but you can't

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Speaker 1: allow the play clock to run down to five seconds

435
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Speaker 1: before the ball snapped every single time because you want

436
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Speaker 1: to spend that long in the headset with your starting quarterback.

437
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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way in the league. You know,

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Speaker 1: I understand that you want to try to make the

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Speaker 1: right decision, but you can't let time expire on the

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Speaker 1: play clock and have a situation where you can't even

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Speaker 1: use the time out. You know, in that situation, he

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Speaker 1: was one of those examples of a head coach who

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Speaker 1: was in over his head, and that's the reason why

444
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Speaker 1: he was immediately fired by Denver and they brought in

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, who again him McVeigh Stefanski. You can make

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Speaker 1: the argument about Kevin O'Connell, Demico Ryans. They have this

447
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Speaker 1: incredible ability to see the long view on the season

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Speaker 1: and put the puzzle together the way it's supposed to

449
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Speaker 1: be or the best way you can week to week.

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Speaker 2: One team that'll be looking for a new coach will

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Speaker 2: be the Washing Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Rivera's done.

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Speaker 2: They're down seventeen nothing to the Jets. Total yards so

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Speaker 2: far for Washington in this game, how about negative eight?

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Speaker 2: Negative eight? Sam Hall is zero for five passing and

456
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Speaker 2: he just threw a pick to set up yet another

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Speaker 2: Jets score. So the Jets are up seventeen nothing. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now and bringing

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Speaker 2: Christmas cheer to this building as she does every single hollow.

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Speaker 2: Now you know is Monsei who just hands out gifts

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Speaker 2: and by the way, the last gift with that face stuff.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, on Father's Day, I.

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Speaker 2: Literally do not exaggerate. I use it every single when

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Speaker 2: I shave and get cleaned up. I'm not done until

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Speaker 2: I get a couple of scores. I've never felt smoother.

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Speaker 2: I am so sad, I know, and.

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Speaker 10: I would have got you more of that, but I

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Speaker 10: figured wine was good.

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Speaker 2: For both of them.

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Speaker 1: Wine is so good we should Yeah, maybe in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the show, will go quick.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, let me know how. I haven't tasted it, so

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Speaker 9: you got to let me know. But yeah, no, Merry Christmas, everybody.

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Speaker 10: I'm lucky to work here, so I'm just grateful to

475
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Speaker 10: hang out with you guys every Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You are a sweetheart and we appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: But mine seeing we have a big day.

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Speaker 10: We did six games that are pretty exciting so far,

479
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Speaker 10: some scoring, some not scoring, but so exciting. The Colts

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Speaker 10: and the Falcons are tied at seven late in the

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Speaker 10: first quarter. It all started with a Jonathan Taylor rushing touchdown,

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Speaker 10: but then Taylor Heineke finding Kyle Pits in the end

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Speaker 10: zone for Atlanta to tie the game.

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Speaker 9: So that's how that one's going.

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Speaker 10: The Seahawks and the Titans are late in the first

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Speaker 10: quarter scoreless, and the Lines and the Vikings are also

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Speaker 10: tied at seven apiece in the first first David Montgomery

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Speaker 10: with a rushing touchdown for Detroit, then ty Chandler with

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Speaker 10: the rushing touchdown for Minnesota to tie the game. The

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Speaker 10: Jets have come out swinging against the Commanders. They're opening drive,

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Speaker 10: they intercepted Sam Howell, got a field goal out of it,

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Speaker 10: and now they are up Trevor Simeon to Jason Brownlee

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Speaker 10: for an eight yard touchdown.

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Speaker 9: Pass Breeze haul with a rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 10: So there're being Washington seventeen zero early or not early,

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Speaker 10: but still like a lot of time in the first

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Speaker 10: quarter left, Like they came out swinging, about nine minutes

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Speaker 10: to go. The Packers up on the Panther seven to

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Speaker 10: three with about five and a half minutes to go

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Speaker 10: in the first and then it was Jerome Ford with

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Speaker 10: the rushing touchdown for Cleveland, who are beating the Texans

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Speaker 10: seven zero.

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Speaker 9: Again no CJ.

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Speaker 10: Stroud case Keenum in at quarterback less than five minutes

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Speaker 10: to go in that one. And if you haven't heard,

506
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Speaker 10: New York Jets owner Woody Johnson confirmed that Robert Sala

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Speaker 10: isn't going anywhere Fellas and neither is general manager Joe Douglas.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thanks Daron Rodgers.

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Speaker 9: Thanks to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: A nice nice.

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Speaker 9: But you can't.

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Speaker 10: You have to try what you were trying to try, right,

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Speaker 10: another shot.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, by the way, you.

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Speaker 2: Got to give him something special. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 2: if you're Sola to Aaron Rodgers, who are helping him

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Speaker 2: keep his shot, he should take the lead of show. Hey,

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Speaker 2: o'tana did you hear about that? Joe Joe Kelly say that? Ye,

519
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Speaker 2: Joe Kelly. They had a number swap.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and so Joe Kelly, I've got a new Porsche.

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Speaker 9: Right, But did you see what she did?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 2: I saw her like, yeah, she.

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Speaker 10: Had a campaign basically saying it was hashtag oh take

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Speaker 10: seventeen or something, And so she made this video and

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Speaker 10: was like, look at show. Hey, it's fine, look at

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Speaker 10: all the stuff I already have for you. Ready with seventeen,

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Speaker 10: we could give you this. I could cut this name out, no.

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Speaker 9: Problem, you could just had it. It's okay.

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Speaker 10: It was such a fun video. And then when he

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Speaker 10: finally signed, she's like throwing away all Joe Kelly seventeen's

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Speaker 10: because Otani officially signed, Like she she she had so

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Speaker 10: much fun with it.

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Speaker 9: And so how did he say, thank.

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Speaker 1: You pors Por.

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Speaker 2: That's wow. Yeah, that'll do. I think I think that works.

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Speaker 1: Although then again, you think about Otani's salary, he may

538
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Speaker 1: have underdid it.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, great stuff mine. See, we'll talk to you a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on once again, This is Fox Sports Red

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Speaker 2: dot com. Just a quick note on Otane. I was

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Speaker 2: talking to my finance guy. He goes, you understand, since

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Speaker 2: he already makes anywhere between forty and sixty million dollars

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Speaker 2: a year in endorsement money, his salary I think is

549
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Speaker 2: gonna be like two million dollars if he doesn't touch

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Speaker 2: that money once it's deferred payments, if it will double

551
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Speaker 2: every nine years if he just sits on it. Right,

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Speaker 2: So you know what is seven hundred million dollars becomes

553
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Speaker 2: one point four billion dollars in nine years, and that

554
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Speaker 2: becomes then two point eight billion, and it doubles every

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Speaker 2: nine years.

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Speaker 1: So he's gonna be like the next Bezos, like over

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Speaker 1: the next Elon Musk where like in in like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, thirty years, when is his playing career is

559
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Speaker 1: long over?

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be launching into rockets and things like this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know his spending habits. I'm gonna guess he's

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Speaker 2: you know, reasonable. And if you could survive on the

563
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Speaker 2: sixty million a year, you're just making an endorsement. We'll

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Speaker 2: be tough in LA, but we'll see it. And I mean,

565
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Speaker 2: never ever touch this money. That's seven hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: or six hundred and eighty million dollars. You never touch

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Speaker 2: it ever. They just let it double double, double, double

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Speaker 2: double for you know which billionaire built the clock in

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Speaker 2: the mountain? Like I wonder what what what Otani's gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean because at that point, like

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Speaker 1: you could do anything you want, So what is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. By I mean, when you think

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Speaker 2: about Elon Musk, when you think of a basis.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to colonize for the star. They're they're they're

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Speaker 1: colonizing Mars. Yeah, I mean it's wild. Wow, well, show

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Speaker 1: Heotani is a very rich man, but he's also one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest baseball players. In fact, I had this

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Speaker 1: argument because he was named second time in three years

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Speaker 1: AP Male Athlete of the Year in Cana twenty three.

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Speaker 1: And you know there have been four time award nominees

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Speaker 1: and four time winner.

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Speaker 2: Lance Armstrong won four years in a row.

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Speaker 1: I look at well, yeah, I look at Shoeo Tani

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Speaker 1: and I think Lance Armstrong, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, you know,

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Speaker 1: go through the list of the top athletes, Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: I think he is the greatest athlete who's ever walked

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Speaker 1: the planet. I mean, just think about win healthy, win healthy,

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Speaker 1: And I know that's a big if and a big

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Speaker 1: win and all those things, but have you ever seen

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Speaker 1: anybody spectacularly take over a sport at two different positions

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Speaker 1: with the level of I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's a perfect When people call him the unicorn, that's

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Speaker 2: what he is. He's absolutely unicorns. There has never been

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Speaker 2: anyone like show Hey Otani. However, in six years so

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Speaker 2: the Angels, he had six losing seasons. So despite having

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Speaker 2: the greatest player perhaps talent ever to see the game,

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Speaker 2: they never had a Winny season with him.

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Speaker 4: You know what's really a bummer about this? Guys, what's up?

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Speaker 4: I was singing about this the other day. Now that

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Speaker 4: Joeotani's on the Dodgers and he will presumably win more

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Speaker 4: often than he did with the Angels, we're we're not

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Speaker 4: gonna have any more Tungsten Armo Doyle tweets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, point yeah, I'm gonna miss those. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I've been obsessed watching Yamamoto's highlights from Japan. So this

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Speaker 2: guy is exactly like a young Tim Linsicam and Peter Martinez.

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Speaker 2: Is he a little guy? A little guy?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Interest that brings it? I mean both when you think

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Speaker 2: of Linsicum, I remember interviewing Linscam at the two thousand

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Speaker 2: and nine All Star Game. Was Henio eight No, but

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Speaker 2: he was like five ten five eleven am about one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds. It was tiny, and he

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Speaker 2: had the long hair, and you're looking at this guy

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Speaker 2: like there's no way. And Peter Martinez was the same way,

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Speaker 2: five eleven hundred and seventy pounds. In fact, the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: traded a young Peter Martinez because Tommy was sort of said,

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Speaker 2: he's not big enough to be a starting pitchers. He's

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Speaker 2: just gas. And this this guy, Yamamoda, has the same repertoire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he throws high nineties, you know, rising fastball.

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Speaker 2: He's got a wicked slider. I mean he's got one

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Speaker 2: of those curve balls that falls off the cliff. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't wait training, just this little guy and he just

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Speaker 2: brings it. So think about it. Over a billion dollars

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Speaker 2: just invested in those two guys. Yeah, he got the

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Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty five million dollars total contract of

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Speaker 2: any pitcher in history, and he's never pitched one game

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Speaker 2: in the majors.

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Speaker 1: And they had to pay a fifty million plus dollar

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Speaker 1: posting fee to his Japanese team, the right ORYX Tigers

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Speaker 1: or whatever it was. It Look the amount of money

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Speaker 1: that the Dodgers just spend or committed to, I should say,

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Speaker 1: because they haven't spent all of it yet, but just

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Speaker 1: committed to is I mean earth rattling. This changes sports forever,

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Speaker 1: because if you're ever going to want to compete with

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Speaker 1: the with the Dodgers, you're gonna have to spend yourself

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Speaker 1: into oblivion. That's just that's the way they're trying to

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Speaker 1: make it they're going to create such distance between them

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Speaker 1: and the next payroll, and that's that's what operating without

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Speaker 1: a salary cap looks like. They're going to be the

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Speaker 1: rich and the haves and the have nots.

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Speaker 2: Even the local Dodger station is promoting them as the

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Speaker 2: evil Empire. They become the evil Empire. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 2: that's us, but by everybody, that's maybe they're building a

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Speaker 2: death star. That's what they're doing with all that money anyway.

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Speaker 2: So but it'll be very interesting to see what kind

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Speaker 2: of Dodger team we see in twenty twenty four. Right now,

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Speaker 2: we're seeing some action the Packers on the road against

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Speaker 2: the pathetic Panthers and they're already on the board and

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Speaker 2: they're about to score again. Unfortunately for the pack Well,

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Speaker 2: they have to win out, all right. They if they

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Speaker 2: get to nine and eight, there's a possible scenarios that

652
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Speaker 2: could get him into the postseason. By the way, Aaron

653
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Speaker 2: Jones off to a hot start nine carries for eighty

654
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Speaker 2: two yards, Jordan Love a perfect four for four for

655
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Speaker 2: sixty yards. As far as Carolina is concerned, what can

656
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: you say, I mean, it's a do over. I'm trying

657
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: to figure out. What if you're the Carolinado, which has

658
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: been almost every single year since their new owner took over.

659
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Speaker 2: What direction do you go next? If you're Carolina boy,

660
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Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta salvage Bryce Young. Obviously that's got

661
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: to be priority one.

662
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Speaker 1: They need stability in the worst way. They need to

663
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Speaker 1: lure somebody like a Jim Harbaugh from Michigan. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. Jim Harbaugh makes sense everywhere he's gone,

665
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Speaker 1: almost immediately, He's been able to impact change and change

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Speaker 1: the culture quickly. Think about what he did at Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Think about what he did with the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers. Michigan was reeling some. He stabilized that program.

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Speaker 1: Now obviously they're under pressure. Michigan is to discipline this guy,

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Speaker 1: to get ahead of some of the investigations that are

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Speaker 1: taking place in the NCAA, And they just got hit

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Speaker 1: with the list of violations from the COVID dead period

673
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Speaker 1: recruiting and coaching both. But if you away and David

674
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Speaker 1: Tepper will spend If there's one thing he proved he

675
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: doesn't mind hiring coaches for big contracts and then firing

676
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Speaker 1: them and he's still paying Matt Ruhle. He'll be paying

677
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Speaker 1: Frank Reich for a while. It doesn't seem to bother him.

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Speaker 1: So if you're looking for somebody who can jumpstart a

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Speaker 1: culture and get things turned around real quick, Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: would who would be who I would target? If I'm

681
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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers owner.

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Speaker 2: It's over. Harbaugh's coming to the Chargers. I guarantee you

683
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: the League has stepped in and told Dean Spanhos, Dean,

684
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: we have put up enough crap from you. We've been

685
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: carrying your ass all these years. You haven't paid a

686
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Speaker 2: cent back of the six hundred and forty five million

687
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Speaker 2: dollars you owe the other owners. You have the money.

688
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: Everyone has the money. You. I don't care if it's

689
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Speaker 2: gonna cost you twenty million a year to get Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: You are going to spend that money if we are

691
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Speaker 2: taking over. Because here's the thing, With all due respect

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Speaker 2: to Carolina Panthers fans, Carolina doesn't matter as much to

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Speaker 2: the league as an LA team. They are trying to

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Speaker 2: get people to latch onto these LA teams. The Rams

695
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Speaker 2: have a fan base, the Chargers having a tiny fan base.

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Speaker 2: The problem for both these franchises, right now it's not growing. Well,

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Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about the Rams. Kronkey gave

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00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: him a gift of a six billion dollars stadium, so

699
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Speaker 2: he's paid his dues. Dean Spanos hasn't done anything. He

700
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Speaker 2: doesn't pay any rent. He's getting a free ride in LA.

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Speaker 2: They've been going on the cheap. I am telling you

702
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Speaker 2: they are putting the hammer on Dean Spano, Saint Dean.

703
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Speaker 2: If you don't think we can force you out as

704
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Speaker 2: an owner, you are sorely mistaken. We need this La

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Speaker 2: franchise to work. This ain't San Diego. You can pull

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Speaker 2: this in San Diego, not in LA. We have given

707
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Speaker 2: you a free ride for six years. You have a

708
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Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. You will spend the money and you will

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Speaker 2: do whatever it takes to get the right coach in

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Speaker 2: here to get this thing right.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a theory, and I'm not saying it's the

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Speaker 1: craziest thing I've ever heard, but I will say this.

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Speaker 1: The Rams don't have much of a fan base either.

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Speaker 1: But what you can say about the Rams is the

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Speaker 1: one thing you said that Stan Kronkey's made a massive investment,

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Speaker 1: and also they've done what they could to win. They've

717
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Speaker 1: been to two Super Bowls, they've won one of them.

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Speaker 1: Big trades, big signing bonuses, big free agent acquisitions. They've

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Speaker 1: been splashy and that's to their credit. So whether or

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Speaker 1: not the fans show up, they're trying their hardest. If

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Speaker 1: your theory is correct, then yeah, I could see a

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Speaker 1: way where the NFL tries to force them into making

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Speaker 1: a splashy head coach.

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Speaker 2: It's the only coach hiring that will move the needle

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Speaker 2: in a city like Los Angeles. It's the only one.

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Speaker 2: It's getting Jim harboll in Belichick from the now that

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Speaker 2: has been you'll bring him in walk of Shane Belichick.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Five years ago, obviously you would have been the biggest

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Speaker 2: name out here. But no, it's Jim Harbob That is

731
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Speaker 2: the one coach that will move the needle. All right,

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Speaker 2: we continue on here with all the latest six games

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Speaker 2: going on around the NFL. Some huge games this week,

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Speaker 2: Week sixteen. For all the latest, keep it here. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 5: Ball officially at the thirteen, first and ten Titans in

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Speaker 5: the pistol.

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Speaker 2: Hey roll, Henry, He's gonna throw it Datus.

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Speaker 11: Wide out touchdown Titans chick cockloam. What a half back

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Speaker 11: pass Derek Henry, who throws it well, makes the play.

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Speaker 11: Henry now eight of ten passing in his career for forty.

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Speaker 2: One yards at five touchdowns. That's WGFX one of four

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Speaker 2: point five the Titans Radio Network. Titans with a seven

744
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: to zing lead against the Seahawks. Second quarteraction. Seahawks though driving.

745
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: They have the ball at the Tennessee fifteen yard line.

746
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: Another team, the Seahawks, desperate for a win to keep

747
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Speaker 2: their hopes alive for the postseason. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger. We are

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Speaker 2: live from the tire rack dot Com studios. This is

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Speaker 2: so fun as you get down to these final weeks

751
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Speaker 2: of the NFL, and honestly, when we get to eighteen,

752
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: that's the best. Like you know, there's like an order, right,

753
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: so if this team wins, they're in, but if they lose,

754
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: then the next team they win, they're in. And then

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00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: if they lose, the next team And we've seen sometimes

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Speaker 2: where it goes four deep, like a team that was

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Speaker 2: like number four in the pecking order, needing the three

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00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: teams ahead of them to lose, and they win and

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00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: it happens. Yeah, it happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, and it is so tight right now for those

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Speaker 2: final playoff spots. I would guess at this point, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at Tampa. So the Buccaneers are hosting the Jaguars

764
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Speaker 2: today later on this afternoon. That's a huge game for

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Speaker 2: both of these teams. The Jags, they were looking really

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Speaker 2: good and all of a sudden they're not looking as

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Speaker 2: good as they were looking before, right right, I mean

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Speaker 2: they're battling the Colts right now, trying to hang on.

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Speaker 2: And then you have the Buccaneers, who I believe I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the Bucks schedule right now, Rich, So right

771
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: now they're sitting atop that NFC South and they got

772
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Speaker 2: a big help from the Rams, who knocked out the

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Speaker 2: Saints the other day. So Tampa's won three in a row.

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Speaker 2: They have the Jags at home, then the big showdown

775
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Speaker 2: against the Saints on New Year's Eve, and then they

776
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Speaker 2: finish on the road against the Panthers. Right, so they

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Speaker 2: win two out of three, they win that division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the four seed going into the postseason and

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Speaker 1: most likely well hosting the val either the Cowboys or

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Oh no, you're right yet, because it'll be

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Speaker 1: the fifth place team, and right now it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's gonna be the Eagles. Can I bring

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Speaker 2: on bow here our steam producer. Now, bo, I know

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Speaker 2: your Eagles have lost three in a row. That lost

786
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Speaker 2: to Seattle and Drew Locke was unreal by the way

787
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Speaker 2: that you talk about catch of the year. Not only

788
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Speaker 2: did he catch the back end of the football, it

789
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Speaker 2: was raining. Oh I know, how did he and he

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Speaker 2: got his two feet down? That was unreal?

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Speaker 1: And how could you not fall in love with Drew

792
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Speaker 1: Locke after hearing the way he spoke after the ame.

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Speaker 1: Now Genus Smith's back today and Seattle's having a hard

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Speaker 1: time with Tennessee. Yeah, so who knows, maybe we'll see

795
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Speaker 1: Drew Locke again. But yeah, what questions you have?

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Speaker 2: First? Well, I have this question. So three losses in

797
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Speaker 2: a row, you have three games left, two against the Giants,

798
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: one against the Cardinals. Now I know that there hasn't

799
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Speaker 2: been a repeat winner in the nfcas in nineteen years

800
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Speaker 2: since the Eagles rattle off four in row from one

801
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: to four. Tell me your Eagles are not going to stumble.

802
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: Playing the Giants twice and the Cardinals once.

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Speaker 4: Oh, good lord, they shouldn't. Anything is possible. Also, real quick,

804
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Speaker 4: vintage Joe Flacco to Amari Cooper right there, massive bomb.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, yeah, deep down the sideline, Cooper walks in.

806
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm as beautiful.

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Speaker 2: The Browns are doing it. The Browns are doing it.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles still have Bost and Scott, so they're good

809
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Speaker 4: for one win against the Giants at least, so you

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Speaker 4: would you would think.

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Speaker 2: I did talk to Adam Kaplan yesterday our Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio NFL insider is very connected to the Eagles, and

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Speaker 2: I said, are the Eagles still in the conversation as

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Speaker 2: a super Bowl team? He goes, No, the Eagles have

815
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Speaker 2: fallen down to the second level. The forty nine ers

816
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Speaker 2: are alone right now atop the NFC. Well, we'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens football. Well, I'll see what happens. I'm because

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Speaker 2: I look me. Are you picking the Ravens? I'm no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no.

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Speaker 1: So I put my submitted my pick already, Yeah, raping fire.

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Speaker 2: Yes, those picks and a lot more. Also going to

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Speaker 2: get a little preview coming up of games around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, it's all come in to you. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Somebody's got to make

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Speaker 2: up play and maybe it's Pierce. Kickoff return at the

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Speaker 2: two left side over the five ten fifteen twenty Piers

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Speaker 2: still going twenty five thirty out.

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Speaker 3: Of the right side, forty forty five fifty to the

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Speaker 2: Ten five brooking lool coast to coast, Damian Piers and

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Speaker 2: this place that's exploded. Yes, that's Texans Radio Network. Wow,

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Speaker 2: he called it. That was unbelievable. Real We need to

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Speaker 2: get something going here. Maybe Pierce and he goes for

834
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Speaker 2: the kickoff return for a touchdown. Brown still lead the

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Speaker 2: Texans fourteen to seven eleven minutes ago in the first

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Speaker 2: half of that game.

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Speaker 1: Once again, this is.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger

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Speaker 2: get a little preview of the game coming up between

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals and the Bears.

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Speaker 5: Now it's time for the NFL on Fox Focus.

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Speaker 2: Well, join us right now, one of our favorite people

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Speaker 2: in the world. He is a Fox Sports NFL analyst. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: dear friend, Mark Sanchez is joining us once again. You know, Mark,

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Speaker 2: this is an interesting matchup because you're like, all right, Cardinals, Bears,

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Speaker 2: these teams are out of it. But both teams have

852
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: a very similar situation with they're quarterbacks, justin Fields, Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to be the quarterbacks of the future.

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00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: Who do you think is in a better position right

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Speaker 2: now to retain their spot as the starting quarterback for

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Speaker 2: their team? Is it Fields or is it Murray?

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Speaker 12: Well, first of all, thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 12: Merry Christmas. And it's a heck of a question because

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Speaker 12: it is unique having two teams like this. But don't

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Speaker 12: count the Bears out all the way, right, I now,

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Speaker 12: one percent, it's very low, but one percent is one percent, right,

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Speaker 12: It's not zero. They're not mathematically eliminated. They're going to

863
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 12: need some serious help. But they can control what they

864
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 12: can control, and that's they got to go three and

865
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 12: oho these next few games. And it's against beatable teams

866
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 12: that don't have a winning record, So you know, they

867
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 12: like where they're at. But then how does that weigh

868
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 12: in in the offseason. Is this just like some beer

869
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 12: muscles for winning these games at the end of the year,

870
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 12: or does this really mean this team is taking a turn?

871
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 12: And you know, listen in the last I think it's

872
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 12: like four games. This team is this defense, this Matt

873
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 12: Eberflu's defense has had like twelve takeaways, So that's been

874
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 12: the change in their season. And then you look at

875
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 12: the offense. They go against the best defense in the

876
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 12: league last week and really had a rough outing. They

877
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 12: had control of the game at certain points, they had

878
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 12: chances to close out the game, and it just didn't

879
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 12: seem to work on third and short, fourth and one,

880
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 12: you know, scrambles, easy stuff for justin fields to handle,

881
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 12: and they seem to come up short. So he completed

882
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 12: less than fifty percent of his passes last week. So

883
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 12: people are you know, in this town, it is a

884
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 12: tough town. But remember they were in that situation three

885
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 12: years ago, right with Trubisky. The head coach like trying

886
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 12: to figure out, Okay, what are we doing this offseason?

887
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 12: And you haven't heard for sure, which tells me there's,

888
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 12: you know, something to be said about these next three games,

889
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 12: and they got a big couple of decisions to make.

890
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 12: You know, they got a kicker, they signed Cairo Santos,

891
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 12: they got a couple of good linebackers. Their defenses turned in.

892
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 12: It on the Teds effect from Montes what it's happening.

893
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 12: There's things that are getting better, but on offense, where's

894
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 12: the growth And that's what everybody's looking for, and everybody's

895
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 12: going to have to decide. For Kyler Murray, it's a

896
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 12: little different because, I mean, his head coach has just

897
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 12: come out and said it all the way, you know,

898
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 12: this is our guy. I'm telling him what I expect

899
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 12: from our franchise cornback. This is you know, I'm giving

900
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 12: him a list of expectations and I want him to

901
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 12: go out and handle it. And he is it. So

902
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 12: he's received the endorsement from the head coach, the organization,

903
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 12: the contract, everything. It sounds like everybody's bought in to

904
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 12: this idea that Kyler Murray's their guy. And whether that

905
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 12: means just for the rest of this year and next

906
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 12: year or for the long term future. At least he

907
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 12: has the endorsement from the headmen.

908
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: Well, and then you look at the head men for

909
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: both of these teams. You know, you have Jonathan Gannon,

910
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: and after a Super Bowl run in success defensively with

911
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles, he gets a head coaching gig with the

912
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Same thing with Matt Eberflus. Years of success

913
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: playoff runs with the Indiana Apolis Colts as their decordinator,

914
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: he gets the head coaching job for the Chicago Bears

915
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: a year ago. You look at both of these guys, though,

916
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: and they seem like odd fits in a age where

917
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coaches are like the flav.

918
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: Or do your where do you land on this discussion?

919
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Do you think defensive minded head coaches are a fit

920
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: with the current culture in NFL football?

921
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's interesting. Obviously, as an offensive guy,

922
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 12: I'm a little biased. I think it's important if you

923
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 12: are a defensive minded head coach that you have the

924
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 12: vision and awareness to you know, everything in that in

925
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 12: that franchise has to funnel through your starting quarterback and

926
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 12: you have to look at it through his lens and

927
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 12: make sure that that every decision you're making is helping

928
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 12: him win games, right, And that is a very offensive mentality.

929
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 12: So it's hard for defensive guys to say that there's

930
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 12: some defensive coaches that feel like offense is just a

931
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 12: necessary evil, right, Like they don't screw it up, you

932
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 12: know what I mean, Like score ten points and we'll

933
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 12: shut them out. Well, that's you know, that's an old

934
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 12: school model. Now. I mean, it's a race to get

935
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 12: thirty points in the league, you know, and whoever can

936
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 12: get to thirty first kind of control of the game

937
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 12: is the way this game is changing with all the passing.

938
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 12: So it's hard, and that's an easy like it's some

939
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 12: low hanging fruit to immediately just criticize because they're a

940
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 12: defensive minded head coach when a lot of these offensive

941
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 12: guys are having success. So I mean, of course I'm

942
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 12: going to land on the offensive side. But you can't

943
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 12: count out what Jonathan Gannon's done with his group when

944
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 12: he was in Philly, and then what Matt Ebersflus has

945
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 12: done in these last four or five games, really turning

946
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 12: this defense on.

947
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: The Cardinals are an interesting team. I mean they pull

948
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: two and thirty four yards up against the forty nine ers.

949
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah on the ground, yeah.

950
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a remarkable total.

951
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this mark because it's a possibility

952
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: both of these coaching jobs are going to be up

953
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: for grabs after this season. Which team has the most

954
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: in the tank right now? I mean, if you were

955
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: an elite coach, you.

956
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 12: Can't go anywhere. Hold on, I don't think Gannon's going well.

957
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: I look, I'm just saying that if he were. I'm

958
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: not saying either one of these coaches are going to

959
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: be gone. But if I were to give you the

960
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: option of coaching either one of these teams based on

961
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: what they have in the tank right now, which one

962
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: of these two organizations are in better shape heading into

963
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four?

964
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 12: Oh well, it sounds like got Lee. I mean, I

965
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 12: don't think we're comparing apples to apples though, because Gannat's

966
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 12: gonna be there, so he's got what he's got. They've

967
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 12: made their decision at quarterback. They're going to ride this

968
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 12: guy out with Kyler Murray and see what he can

969
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 12: do based on that contract. Now, whether that was his

970
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 12: decision or ownership or whatever, and they're saying, hey, this

971
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 12: is who you're stuck with. Make it work. And now

972
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 12: Gannon's fully bought in and trying to make Kyler the

973
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 12: best version of himself. With all these positive remarks about

974
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 12: him and all the encouragement. Okay, fine, but you know,

975
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 12: at least you have something. And here's what I'd equated

976
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 12: to is like, when you get to the line of scrimmage, Okay,

977
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 12: you always see quarterback point the center point. What they're

978
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 12: doing is they're like setting They're setting up the offense

979
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 12: for success, pointing out the middle of the defense and

980
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 12: it's the mic linebacker. Okay, he's the middle linebacker. They're

981
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 12: pointing at him. Even if they point at the wrong guy,

982
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 12: it's to tell everybody what's going on. So at least

983
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 12: we're on the same thing. Even if you have the

984
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 12: wrong guy pointed out, at least everybody knows what you're doing.

985
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: Right.

986
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 12: So, even if Kyler Murray's not your guy long term

987
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 12: for ten years, at least they have a plan for

988
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 12: next year and they're going to go build around him,

989
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 12: draft guys around him, and they have a plan in place.

990
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 12: You can react to a bad plan, it's just hard

991
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 12: to It's hard to do anything without a plan. So

992
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 12: I think the Bears have yet to establish what that

993
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 12: plan is, and a lot of that is because of

994
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 12: the shuffle the last few years with head coaches, quarterbacks, injuries,

995
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 12: you know, plenty of factors that have led to it.

996
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 12: And until they make a decision on the QB and

997
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 12: head coach, they don't have a plan. And it could

998
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 12: be a plan behind closed doors and they're just waiting,

999
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 12: you know, three weeks to figure that out and let

1000
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 12: everybody else know. But the bottom line is the Cardinals

1001
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 12: already have a plan and they're working towards something.

1002
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Hey, overall this season, Mark, I know you've watched that

1003
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: on a football up close in person during your calls

1004
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: throughout the season, but also at home like the rest

1005
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: of us, when you look at this playoff picture, have

1006
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: you seen any more competition than this year? If there's

1007
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: one thing that's really I don't know made this this

1008
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: season the most interesting compared to other years, is the

1009
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: whole league feels up for grabs. I know San Francisco

1010
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of looks like world beaters right now, but they're

1011
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: about to run into a buzz saw with Baltimore heading

1012
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: to their house this weekend.

1013
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens on Monday night. But is this

1014
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: the most.

1015
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: Parody we've seen in the NFL in a long time

1016
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: or potentially ever?

1017
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 12: I felt like this year I felt like last year,

1018
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 12: we're like last year, I felt like it was one

1019
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 12: of the best and then boom, this year blows it

1020
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 12: out of the water. But you see all that that

1021
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 12: column in the Hunt, And I know people get discouraged

1022
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 12: by in the Hunt when you see like seven and

1023
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 12: eight and seven and seven and eight and seven records,

1024
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 12: but they really are because of the way these teams

1025
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 12: have kind of cannibalized each other and beat each other.

1026
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: They're still on twenty five thirty.

1027
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 12: That's really what you want in the league. That's what

1028
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 12: the league is pushing forward. That's why the draft set

1029
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 12: up the way it is. That's why a lot of

1030
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 12: the rules and regulations of this enterprise is set up

1031
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 12: the way it's set up to have games like this,

1032
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 12: so everybody's city is excited about football. I mean the

1033
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 12: Detroit line like this has got to be one of

1034
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 12: the best Christmases in thirty years for the Detroit Lions,

1035
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 12: you know what I mean. So they're in the hunt

1036
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 12: more than in the hunt. They're in the driver's seat

1037
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 12: to win their division, and it makes it fun for everybody.

1038
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 12: But you're right, man, it is other than the forty

1039
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 12: nine ers and maybe Baltimore. You nailed it on those two.

1040
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 12: Those guys are gonna be fun to watch on Monday.

1041
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 12: But good lord, it's like everybody in any week, you know,

1042
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 12: any given Sunday.

1043
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, speak of timing, Mark, I mean,

1044
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: it's almost Bomby weather right now in Chicago, right, I mean,

1045
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: it's like low fifties, upper four. I mean, we've all

1046
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: been in Chicago when it is brutal cold at this

1047
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: time of the year.

1048
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: It's not that case.

1049
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: Mark. We wish you a Merry Christmas to you, your

1050
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: family and everyone. Always appreciate all your input. Have a

1051
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: good time at the game today.

1052
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 12: Thank you guys so much.

1053
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: Merry Chrismas Merry Christmas.

1054
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: That's Mark Sanchez again, Cardinals Bears. And it really is

1055
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: the story of these two quarterbacks, you know, justin Fields,

1056
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. How invested are these organizations in their future

1057
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: as their quarterback? All right, we're going to continue on.

1058
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: We got a lot going on right now, six games

1059
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: around the NFL. Keep it here for all the information

1060
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: you need. This is Fox Sports Red Zone.

1061
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 13: Radio, Bryce under Center, snap play action, the toss to

1062
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 13: a Meer Smith bar set on the reverse. He's got

1063
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Speaker 13: route twenty ten five touchdown, twenty yards of the end

1064
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Speaker 13: around to a mere Smith bar set.

1065
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: That's ninety nine seven of the Fox Panthers Radio network.

1066
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: Panthers hanging in, still trailing at home to the Backers,

1067
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: sixteen to ten, minute a half to go in the

1068
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Speaker 2: first half in that game. This is Fox Sports Red

1069
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1075
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: of the leader board right now. The Falcons leading the

1076
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: Colts ten to seven. It's a huge game for the Colts,

1077
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: but they're trailing right now ten to seven in Atlanta,

1078
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: two minutes to go in the first half. There inside

1079
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 2: a minute to go in the first half, and the

1080
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: Seahawks in a must win situation. I think it's time

1081
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: for Drew locked. Gino Smith is not having it today.

1082
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: They trail the Titans ten to three. Lions lead the

1083
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: Vikings on the road seventeen to seven. They just scored

1084
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: again in that game, won forty eight to go in

1085
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: the half. There Jets and Commanders. It has been all

1086
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: Jets twenty nothing over the Commanders six point fifty one

1087
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: to go in the first half. There about a minute

1088
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: to go in the first half. Ackers lead the Panthers

1089
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: sixteen to ten, and the Browns have scored again. DTR

1090
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: brought him in.

1091
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Well hang it in, but hang on, no, no, no, So

1092
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco to David and Joku over the middle.

1093
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: They connect for the score. So that's six points.

1094
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: And then DTR comes in a quarterback and a plan

1095
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: TD run and that puts the two point conversion on

1096
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: the board. Cleveland leads twenty two to the Houston Texans seven.

1097
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: In Houston, the only points the Texans able to put

1098
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: on the board so far was that Damian Pierce kickoff

1099
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: return for touchdown of one hundred yards plus. Here's the

1100
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: crazy thing about this game. You look at the Cleveland

1101
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: Browns right now, they're sitting in the wildcard seat, and

1102
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean right at the top of the wildcard standings

1103
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: with their nine wins about to be ten if they

1104
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: finish off this game, which it looks like they will

1105
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco leads you into the postseason. And right now today,

1106
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: if the regular season ends, Flaco and this Browns team

1107
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: face the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville. What if they win?

1108
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: What do you do If Joe Flacco off the couch

1109
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: gets this team to the postseason and gets you a win,

1110
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: gets you into the divisional round.

1111
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: You go back to Deshaun Watson and you're paying him

1112
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: into he was playing well good last half of football

1113
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: we saw from Deshaun Watson, he was lights out.

1114
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: DeShawn has been terrible for this franchise. He has been

1115
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: completely fragile. Do not get over and flow with Joe Flat.

1116
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying Joe Flacco is the future. But

1117
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: does he give you the availability to trade away Deshaun

1118
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Watson and to recover some of.

1119
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: What you you you had to give up for him? No, no, no, Look,

1120
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is a great story. And again today his

1121
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: numbers are ridiculous. Eleven of seventeen, two hundred and twenty

1122
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: three yards and two touchdowns. That's a passer radium one

1123
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: forty seven today for Joe Flat I'm just saying this

1124
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: is Sean Watson is the future.

1125
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: This Shawn Watson deal looks like the worst deal ever

1126
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: sign him, the.

1127
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: Last happy play. We are both sitting here. He engineered

1128
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: that incredible comebacks.

1129
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: Played one good half a football under the entire time

1130
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: of his contract.

1131
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: So you're not gonna hang your hat on Joe Flow.

1132
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: No.

1133
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: No, Like I said, he is not the future.

1134
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the future, but I'm saying he's

1135
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: done more for this team over the games that he's

1136
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: played in than this Shawn has done. I mean, Deshaun's

1137
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: barely been available, whether it beat a suspension or injury,

1138
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: he's and then he's had one good half and you're

1139
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: ready to bet the farm.

1140
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm not betting the farm, but I have a lot

1141
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: invested in him. And by the way, who's gonna take

1142
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: all that money off your hands? You may have to eat,

1143
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: somebody eat. That's a fully guaranteed deal. But it gives you, Look,

1144
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: it just gives you.

1145
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: We hit the pause button right, all of a sudden,

1146
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: you have a playoff berth. It gives you, if you're

1147
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, it gives you a second to take yourself

1148
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: out of the Deshaun Watson universe for a second and say, hey,

1149
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: if I can win with Joe Flacco, maybe we can

1150
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: we can do something at quarterback where we get we

1151
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: offload this Deshaon contract if you can convince management to

1152
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: do it and you find somebody else to bring in.

1153
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 2: Again, who's eating that contract? You're gonna have to pay

1154
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: some if you're if you're down on Deshaun Watson. Guess

1155
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 2: what sore or the other thirty one general managers around

1156
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: the league saying I'm not penning spending that kind of

1157
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: money for Zack.

1158
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: Listen, there's a lot more desperate teams out there than

1159
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: the Browns right now. Because Browns look like they're going

1160
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: to be the top wallcard team in the AFC side

1161
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: of the playoff bracket. There's a lot of teams out

1162
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: there who are looking for Joshaun Watson type quarterback who

1163
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: might pay a good amount of money on potential, just

1164
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: like the Browns did.

1165
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one guy that love show Flacco

1166
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: as Amari Cooper. Yeah, the game winning touchdown last week

1167
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: today three catches one hundred and fifty yards on its score,

1168
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: including a seventy five yard or by the way, I

1169
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: believe case Keenum has been benched. Why weren't they going

1170
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: with Davis Mills anyway? So Davis Mills comes in at

1171
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: quarterback Keenum five of eight twenty four yards. Mills come

1172
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: in and completes a pass. Why weren't they going with

1173
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: Davis Mills, who actually is playing pretty well when he

1174
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: was the Texans quarterback?

1175
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure what Keenum on the depth chart there.

1176
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: But Case had a good game last week, you know,

1177
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean good finish, good finish.

1178
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

1179
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still, you know, who knows what the practice

1180
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: weeks look like. Who knows what they saw in Case

1181
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: or Davis Mills for that matter. But yeah, the Texans

1182
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: right now smarting at home against the Browns team twenty

1183
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: two to seven lead for Cleveland. I saw this game

1184
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: going much differently at halftime. If you would have told

1185
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: me that the Browns would have a three score lead,

1186
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I mean, what game are you watch?

1187
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: And this is going to be way more competitive than that?

1188
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: All right?

1189
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: Looking at the playoff picture in the AFC is getting

1190
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: very interesting right now. So you have the Texans at

1191
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: eight and six losing, the Colts at eight and six losing.

1192
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: The Steelers had the big win against the Bengals yesterday,

1193
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: so they're bull City at eight and seven, and the

1194
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: Broncos are playing the Patriots, so they should win that

1195
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: game to get them to eight and seven, and then

1196
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: you have the Jaguars at a eight and six. I mean,

1197
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: there are so many different possibilities here. Remember the Jags

1198
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: are on the road later today against a Buccaneers team

1199
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: that is trying to win out and win their division.

1200
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: So you got all these eight and six, seven and

1201
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: seven teams trying to keep their heads above water. But

1202
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: right now, the only good news for the Texans is

1203
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: that the Colts are losing.

1204
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Yeah, they need help, you know,

1205
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're not going to do them. So

1206
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: what do you do with the Seahawks?

1207
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: You know, Geno Smith was such a story a year ago,

1208
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: but even after he went down, he has not played

1209
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: all that well as of late. And today, forget it

1210
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Tennis sixteen only sixty nine yards passing as they trail

1211
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: with a less than a minute ago in the first

1212
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: half to the Titans ten to three, three points. They

1213
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: have no offense right now. If you're Pete Carroll, do

1214
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: you say, hey, Drew get back in the game. What

1215
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: do you do You got to win this game. Well, listen,

1216
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: you cannot lose this game.

1217
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: Gino's deep enough that if you want to keep him

1218
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: on your roster, let him finish out this three year

1219
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: contract he signed and have him just help whoever is

1220
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: next that you bring in at quarterback for Seattle, whether

1221
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: that's Drew Locke or it's somebody from outside this program

1222
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: on their way in at some point in trade, free agency,

1223
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: or the draft, it makes sense. Twenty five million dollars

1224
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: a year. We're not talking about backbreaking money owed to

1225
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So you could get pretty cheap. You could

1226
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: get a young, cheap starter at quarterback out of the draft,

1227
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: and Gino Smith could operate as a bridge quarterback, just

1228
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: like he's been in the past. So if it was

1229
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle last year and that's all it

1230
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: ever was, or all it'll ever materialized, too, well, well

1231
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: that's fine. You took a chance on the contract he

1232
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: didn't give him. Again, he didn't get, you know, franchise

1233
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: quarterback money. He got three years seventy five, and you

1234
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: still have room on your salary cap to bring in

1235
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: somebody that he he can help bring along. Joe Flacco

1236
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: just threw a deep, deep pick down the sideline Texans

1237
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: football with a minute thirty left in this half, three timeouts.

1238
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: They're trailing twenty two to seven at home.

1239
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: Now Flacco's gonna test him. I mean, he's been throwing

1240
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: the ball deep. That's the one thing Flacco can do.

1241
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: He can get the ball down the field. Vikings are

1242
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: another team right now. They have to make a decision

1243
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: at halftime. They're trailing the Lions seventeen to seven, just

1244
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: like the Seahawks seven and seven. They have to win

1245
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: this game. You have to win this game if you're

1246
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: the Vikings.

1247
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: And Nick Mullens has.

1248
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: Two picks thrown in the first half, hikes, So he

1249
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: go back to Dobbs.

1250
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: Well, Dobbs Jaron Hall. I mean, you have two healthy

1251
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are back active for this, so Dolls is

1252
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: not active. So it's just Hall, It's Hall, that's it.

1253
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: The rookie.

1254
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, and you know, you know what Kevin

1255
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: O'Connell has said, he's not thrilled with the idea of

1256
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: throwing a rookie quarterback in if he wasn't scripted to

1257
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: be the starter that week. So we'll see what happens

1258
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: with the decision making a quarterback where right now trailing

1259
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: by ten against Detroit, and Nick Mullins just threw a

1260
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: touchdown to Justin Jefferson.

1261
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: To see how that always works every time after somebody

1262
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: they come up with a big play thing. You're welcome,

1263
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Nick Mullins, Jefferson.

1264
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: Just Moss whoever was deeing him up, and that just

1265
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: dropped right in the basket for number eighteen of the

1266
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: Vikings thirteen to seventeen ballgame, Boy, what happened there?

1267
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: Chris? What's going on? Your defense played well and all

1268
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden you have a breakdown, right Jordan half

1269
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: They've got Jordison, Jordan Edison out right now.

1270
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 8: This is probably a situation where you really put your

1271
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 8: best on it. But Cam Sutton the CD has been

1272
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 8: just getting torched on this drive repeatedly, and that one

1273
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 8: comes it props to Nick Mullen getting up one off

1274
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 8: because he's getting hit from behind us was letting it go.

1275
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: You didn't see that coming and that might have helped

1276
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: him because you got hit hard as you let that

1277
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: ball fly.

1278
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's a game changer. Twenty nine seconds to go

1279
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: in the half and the Vikings instead of being down

1280
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: ten are now down three. All right, let's find out

1281
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: what is trending right now. We've got some pretty good games,

1282
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: so yeah, what's happening.

1283
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 10: I mean, we're lucky this year where we've had one

1284
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 10: hundred and seventeen backup quarterbacks that there have actually been

1285
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 10: some exciting games.

1286
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question? I know the playoffs

1287
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: are coming up in fantasy football leagues.

1288
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Speaker 9: I rather not talk about my situation right now, do.

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01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: And she?

1290
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're a multiple, respect your privacy,

1291
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 2: difficult time still alive in one like to win the.

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01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 10: Thing and it's my my big it would be my

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 10: biggest payout if I win it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the only matter. Who's your starting quarterback?

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01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 9: Okay?

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01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 10: I have Patrick Mahomes, Okay, Rock Parties on my bench.

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: Wow, You've got some decisions to.

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Speaker 9: Make at this point. I'm like, I feel like, which

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 9: way would you go?

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Speaker 2: Do you think brock perty is gonna light up the Ravens?

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01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: I got, I have, I've okay, so I took the

1303
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: over and I took the Niners in that game.

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01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 9: I did too.

1305
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: So Mahomes is going against the race.

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01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 9: Against the Raiders.

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that.

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: Jeez.

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01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: You're you're in a pickle. I think I would still

1311
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: rock with Brock, but good luck. Basically you you have

1312
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: now taken control of her entire season with that predicata. No, no, no,

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm taking control of nothing.

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01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1315
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: But okay, you do what you want to do.

1316
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 10: I've been sitting on this for days, and then Jason

1317
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 10: Smith I chatted with them, I think Wednesday night, and

1318
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 10: Jesus's like, you have to do whatever is going to

1319
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 10: upset you the least if you're wrong. Interesting, like I see,

1320
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 10: because if I do put Patrick Mahomes in my bench

1321
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 10: and he goes off, I'm gonna be more mad than

1322
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 10: if I.

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01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 9: Leave Brock forty Okay.

1324
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: That may be your personally, that may be your personal belief.

1325
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna say this to you.

1326
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it out loud, so somebody said it

1327
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, the NFL MVP is on your bench

1328
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: right now.

1329
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. I said, no now, but I will

1330
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: keep in mind this Arizona ran the ball all over

1331
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. The Ravens can run the football, yes,

1332
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: which means if they run the football effectively, they control

1333
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: the clock, keeping purty and that forty nine er offense

1334
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: off the field. You gotta play my homes.

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: Against the rage. By the way, I love that that Ravens.

1336
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: That Ravens run game without Kim Mitchell who destroyed his

1337
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: knee last game.

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Speaker 9: Just say y yeah, no, listen, trust trust uh. I

1339
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 9: don't know what I'm doing. I don't knowe So back

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Speaker 9: to I have no comment, you.

1341
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: Know I have.

1342
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: You have to respect their privacy.

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Speaker 9: D please, thank you. Let's talk about Joe Flacco.

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 10: He has them for two hundred and twenty three yards

1345
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 10: and two touchdowns, but he just also threw a pick,

1346
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 10: So the Texans now have the ball with about thirty

1347
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 10: seconds to go in the first half, with.

1348
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 9: Cleveland of twenty two to seven.

1349
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 10: On this one, It's halftime in Carolina and it's been

1350
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 10: all Packers.

1351
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 9: They're of twenty three to ten.

1352
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 10: Jordan Love one hundred and twenty six yards and one

1353
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 10: touchdown in the air. He also has a touchdown on

1354
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 10: the ground. The Jets off to their hottest start of

1355
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 10: this season against the Commanders at home. Twenty to seven

1356
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 10: is the score. Two minutes to go in the first half.

1357
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 10: New York has the ball at Washington's twenty three yard line,

1358
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 10: So we'll see if they do anything with these final

1359
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 10: two minutes. Breeze Hall ten carry seventy two yards and

1360
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 10: a touchdown the Lions and the Vikings. The Vikings just

1361
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 10: cut the lead to three you were talking about justin

1362
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 10: Jefferson with that touchdown. The Lions are up though seventeen

1363
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 10: fourteen twenty seconds left in the first half. The last

1364
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 10: two games are at halftime, with the Falcons up on

1365
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 10: the Colts thirteen to seven, and the Seahawks, you know,

1366
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 10: this week put in Gino Smith after Drew Locke had

1367
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 10: a great game. They are currently losing to the Titans,

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 10: where Dereck Henry has the touchdown pass of the day.

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Speaker 9: They're up ten to three and it's halftime. Back to you, guys.

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Speaker 9: If you have any more advice.

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Speaker 1: Let me know.

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Speaker 2: Lame Holmes, lame of homes. All right, Monzie, we'll check

1373
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: in with you a little bit later on. This is

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01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: Fox Towards Red Zone Radio. Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger

1375
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: with you. What is the last time, especially this late

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: in the season, that the game of the week is

1377
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football? Yeah, yeah, I mean Monday Night

1378
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: has had so many dog games over the years, but

1379
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: to have a Week sixteen matchup, potentially a Super Bowl

1380
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: preview game between the Ravens and the forty nine Ers,

1381
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: no question, right in the moment, these are the two

1382
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: best teams in the NFL.

1383
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: I was listening to Brady Quinn on Two Pros and

1384
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio this week.

1385
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: I believe it was talking about this very situation about

1386
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: Monday night football in general, not necessarily talking about the

1387
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: matchup between the Ravens and the Niners, but just about

1388
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: how esteemed it used to be to turn on the

1389
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: standaload in game primetime Monday Night and where it's at now.

1390
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: It really has shifted over the past decade decade and

1391
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: a half.

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01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football feels like the show. Well, you're talking

1393
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: to somebody that remembers the very first Monday night football game.

1394
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: I was in junior high school, and I mean it

1395
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: was primetime. It was unlike anything else. My late great partner,

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01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: my original Loose Cannon Check, was the director and producer.

1397
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 2: Monday Night football didn't look like a game you had

1398
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: Howard Kosea did it was. It was completely unique. It

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01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: was an experience it was incidental who was in the game.

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01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: It was show was the show. Now that has changed.

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, with all.

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: Due respect to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, as good

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: a duo as there is out there, if they have

1404
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: a bad matchup, they're gonna get bad ratings. I mean,

1405
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: at one point, I don't know what the numbers are,

1406
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: but you know the numbers are down thirteen percent from

1407
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: the year before. Has nothing to do with your announcing

1408
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: team has just got bad matchups. This this game is

1409
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: going to get a huge number, huge numbers.

1410
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: And again I love and I know he's controversial, and

1411
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure why people think that they hate

1412
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: on their he hates on their teams when he calls games,

1413
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: But Joe Buck, his voice has been attached to some

1414
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: of my favorite sports memories over the course of my life,

1415
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: certainly some of the biggest games that I've watched in

1416
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: my lifetime. And then Troy Aikman, I still think after

1417
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: all these years, he's one of the most comfortable and

1418
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: competent on to listen to.

1419
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: So I like the pairing.

1420
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: I love Primetime Football, but I agree with what Brady

1421
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: Quinn was saying that it really is it's interesting that

1422
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of lost some steam over the years, but

1423
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: again it's about matchups.

1424
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: And of course we're a little partial with both Joe

1425
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: Buck and Troy Yikman because they both joined us many

1426
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: times on the show. Both were gracious every single time

1427
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: that came on the show. The Jets have a first

1428
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: and goal at the Commander's two yard line, trying to

1429
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: add to their already twenty to seven lead, and the

1430
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: Browns are trying to add to their lead right now

1431
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: watching there are five seconds to go in the half,

1432
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: so they overcame that interception and they are now at

1433
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: the Houston eighteen yard line. This could be the absolute

1434
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: dagger right now for the Texans, and again the only

1435
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: hope for the Texans is that the Colts lose as well.

1436
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: And right now it's halftime and the Atlanta Falcons are

1437
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 2: leading this game by a score of thirteen to seven.

1438
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: Taylor Heinike, it's having a hell of a game so

1439
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: far for the Falcons. Sixteen or twenty two, one hundred

1440
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: and seventy one yards of the score. It is really

1441
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: unbelievable when you look at these box scores week in

1442
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: and week out of the NFL how many changes we

1443
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: have a quarterback. I mean it's just unreal. I mean

1444
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: half of these teams right now are going with second

1445
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 2: or even third string quarterbacks. I mean, think about and

1446
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: teams that are incontentious.

1447
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: Some of the names that have cut through this year

1448
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: that at the beginning of the season would have been

1449
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 1: completely anonymous, Tyson Bagent, Tommy DeVito, the passing Paizano, Tommy

1450
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: Cutlets out there in New York. You know, you look

1451
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: at Aid and O'Connell.

1452
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: Easton Stick, Nick Mullins, case Keenum a blast from the past,

1453
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: and Joe Flacco Flaco, I mean, Joe Flacco was literally

1454
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: on a barka lounger and the Browns You're like, hey, yikes, we've.

1455
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: Got some problems and we have a very important question

1456
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: to ask you. We're just glad that you picked up

1457
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: your phone. No, it's been it's been a comedy in

1458
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: terms of some of these box scores at the end

1459
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: of these games. But it goes to show you one

1460
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: thing in the NFL, coaching matters, because the coaches who

1461
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: can keep a stable organization, uh through the I mean

1462
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: the injuries that you're inevitably going to incur. But this season.

1463
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: It's just been ridiculous. Those are the teams that typically

1464
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: rise to the top, and some of these young coaches

1465
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: are getting tested what we're seeing here against the Cleveland

1466
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: Browns in Houston. I mean, this is Demico Ryan's first

1467
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: rattle out of the box as a head coach in

1468
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: this league. It looked great with CJ. Stroud, it looked

1469
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: okay with case Keenum last year or excuse me, last game,

1470
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: and it's looked anything but through the first half here

1471
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: against the Browns.

1472
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, So the Browns made a decision. They had

1473
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: third and ten at the Houston eighteen yard line with

1474
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: five seconds to go in the half and flack out

1475
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: through it to Amari Cooper intercepted and that's how the

1476
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: aff ended. So instead of taking the gimme field goal

1477
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,480
Speaker 2: thirty five yard field goal, they went for the touchdown

1478
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: the ball was intercepted. So we're at halftime right now

1479
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: and the Browns lead the Texans by a score of

1480
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: twenty two to seven. I'm not sure why Stefanski did that.

1481
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: Man.

1482
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, wow, by the way, the Jets have

1483
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: scored again, Wow, twenty seven is seven over the Commanders.

1484
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: Sam Howell is four of fourteen for forty three yards

1485
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: in an interception. The Commanders only have sixty eight total

1486
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 2: yards in the first half. Meanwhile, with Trevor Simeon running

1487
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: the show, the Jets are a juggernaut. Hey, Breece Hall

1488
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: finally showed up, No dude, Yeah, eighty yards and two

1489
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: touchdowns on the first.

1490
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: Half, and he's got thirty yards receiving, He's got one

1491
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards from scrimmage.

1492
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: Breese Hall is having himself a game no look.

1493
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: And this again goes back to the conversation that I've

1494
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: been having with people all season long about the New

1495
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: York Jets. The New York Jets are a playoff team.

1496
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: Their quarterback away. I said that about them last year.

1497
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: I'll say that about them this year. That's what a

1498
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: playoff defense looked like. That's what offensive weapons on a

1499
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: playoff team looks like. What they need is a quarterback.

1500
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: You cannot win in this league right now with Zach Wilson,

1501
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: you can't do it. It's I mean, and anybody else

1502
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: who they've trotted out a quarterback other than Aaron Rodgers

1503
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: have given them zero shot at being anything that resembles

1504
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: a playoff team.

1505
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask a quick question here. So Brandon

1506
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: Staley obviously fired as the coach of the Chargers. We

1507
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: had predicted that was going to happen, maybe not during

1508
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: the season, but after that embarrassment against the Raiders, no choice.

1509
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, after they blew that twenty seven point late

1510
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: in the playoff game against Jacksonville last year, walked into

1511
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: that locker room after the game and said to his team,

1512
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 2: these things happen in the NFL. You know, don't basically,

1513
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 2: don't feel bad because these things happen. After the embarrassment

1514
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: against the Raiders, he gave the exact same speech, these

1515
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: things happen in the NFL. Obviously it didn't fly. So

1516
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: give Smith, who's a longtime assistant coach, finally gets his

1517
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: opportunity to be a coach for three games. He told

1518
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: the team before this game, and Easton Sticks shared this.

1519
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: After the Charges loss of the Bills last night, he goes,

1520
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: we're watching everybody. If we detect anything other than one

1521
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: effort on the field, we will yank you from the

1522
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:45,919
Speaker 2: game on the spot. No questions asked. Now as a player,

1523
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: when you've gotten embarrassed like they did against Jacksonville in

1524
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: that playoff game a year ago, or certainly on national

1525
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: TV against the Raiders. The idea of the coach trying

1526
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 2: to make you feel better by saying, hey, these things happen.

1527
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: Does that fly in a locker room. No, it doesn't.

1528
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: Look when.

1529
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: When you're a part of a team with a dead

1530
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: man walking at head coach, you know it, he knows it.

1531
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: Everybody's waiting for the acts to come down. It's just

1532
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: a matter of time. And whether that coach gets fired

1533
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: in season or he gets fired postseason, it doesn't matter

1534
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: because everybody knows it.

1535
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 5: The game.

1536
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 2: Do you want to coach going and saying, look at guys,

1537
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: it happens. It doesn't matter. Wouldn't you rather a coach

1538
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: come in and say and just tear you down after

1539
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: a game like that?

1540
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: If you run the risk of going into a locker

1541
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: room and trying to pull that stuff when everybody has

1542
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: lost belief in you as a head coach, of being

1543
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: humiliated if he goes in, Brandon Staley or anybody who's

1544
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: allowsy coach in this league walks into a locker room

1545
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: with a bunch of highly paid athletes, highly motivated players

1546
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: who realize that their playoff hopes have been dashed by

1547
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: some of your decision making, and you walk into the

1548
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: locker room and you try to talk to us like

1549
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: you're the boss. Get the hell out of here. It

1550
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: ain't working, it ain't happen. You're about to You're about

1551
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: to get run out of the room. And if you

1552
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: question somebody's manhood hard enough, holy smokes, then all of

1553
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,440
Speaker 1: a sudden it comes down to who's the alpha.

1554
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: In this room. You may be in some jeopardy there.

1555
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: So no, the answer is he shouldn't. He can't.

1556
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't have any room, any sway to do something

1557
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: like that. What he was doing was the things in

1558
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: saying the things of somebody who's walking the plank. What

1559
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: else could he say? You know, so he gets he

1560
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: gets voted off the island, you know, if it's survivor,

1561
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: he gets his torch extinguished and gifts. Smith says, the

1562
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: only thing that a coach should say in that situation.

1563
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: Anybody who plays is giving one hundred percent effort. Otherwise

1564
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: you're yanked. Everybody get it? Everybody got it good?

1565
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: All right?

1566
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: Ready break, Let's go out there and give the Bills

1567
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: the hardest time they've ever had this season so far,

1568
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: and to be frank, they kind of did. Oh.

1569
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they played hard and you know they had a chance. Obviously, Bill,

1570
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 2: we're able to pull out a huge game as far

1571
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 2: as their future on the season is concerned. We continue

1572
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: on halftime around the NFL with the six games, big

1573
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: games coming up. Will take a look at some of

1574
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 2: those as well. Keep it here. This is Fox Sports

1575
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio.

1576
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: Hawkinson goes in motion, Lions blitz. It's all picked up.

1577
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 7: Nick them pay Nick, come on, He rolls out to

1578
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 7: the right, throws to the end zone.

1579
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: Tout touchdown.

1580
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 7: Jajay and how we missed that gritty it's seventeen thirteen Lions.

1581
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: That's k Fan one hundred point three FM, Vikings Radio Network.

1582
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 2: Huge score for the Vikings right before the half. And

1583
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: right now the Vikings as we have started the third quarter,

1584
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: are threatening again and trying to take the lead. Lions

1585
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: lead this one seventeen to fourteen.

1586
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,440
Speaker 1: Look at this ball from Nick Moans to kJ Osborne.

1587
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 1: He just a little post route.

1588
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: Forty seven yards on that play down to the Detroit

1589
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: six yard line.

1590
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: That was one of those routes where look, it's a post.

1591
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: Everybody runs a post. You run it from you know,

1592
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: flag football in your early days playing football all the

1593
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: way through your collegiate career and into the NFL.

1594
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: But he put touchdown Vikings touchdown Vikings aj Osborne again.

1595
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: They got him choking up right now on the corner route. Yeah,

1596
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm almost spit out my coffee watching that pass.

1597
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: So Nick Mullens with two strikes to the same receiver kJ,

1598
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: I not just call out Nick Mallins. Since then he

1599
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: has been absolutely on fire. Two touchdown passes just like that.

1600
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: He's now fourteen to nineteen two and fifty nine yards

1601
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: two stores. He had two interceptions earlier, but the Vikings

1602
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 2: on the roll have the.

1603
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: Lead and again, so the last one was all Mullens

1604
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: putting the money on the ball with the post route

1605
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: and kJ Osborne's and the way he ran the route

1606
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Setting up with a little outside shake, he

1607
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: got the the defensive back to flip his hips and

1608
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: so he was running three yards behind the defense when

1609
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: he caught that post route on this corner route. You

1610
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: could give all the credit to koc the head coach

1611
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: and offensive play caller for the Vikings. They set it

1612
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: up like they were gonna run power. They pulled the

1613
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: backside guard and kJ Osborne actually looked like he was

1614
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: coming down into the box to block one of the

1615
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: load defenders. And then he bursts out and runs a

1616
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: corner route untouched on the play action fake and he

1617
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: catches it for a touchdown. And so the Vikings all

1618
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: of a sudden, not only do they have a pulse,

1619
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: they have a lead in this game.

1620
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is again a musk game for the Vikings.

1621
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: And right now they lead this one twenty one to seventeen,

1622
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: twelve minutes to go in the third quarter, the Colts

1623
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: are in trouble. They are now down twenty to seven

1624
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: on the road against the Falcons. Colts came in at

1625
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: eight and six. Falcons obviously still have an outside chance

1626
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: to win that NFC South with the Saints losing this week.

1627
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: If the Falcons win, they would be both at seven

1628
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: and eight. And of course you have the Buccaneers and

1629
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: they have a big game coming up a little bit

1630
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 2: later on hosting the Jaguars, another team desperate to win.

1631
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: So you got all these matchups of these seven and

1632
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: seven and eight and six teams, a lot of desperate

1633
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 2: teams trying to keep their head above water. I want

1634
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: to get in. I'm actually gonna wait till the next

1635
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: hour because we're pretty close to the top of the hour.

1636
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: About a game coming up a little bit later on

1637
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, another team in need of a victory going

1638
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: against the Titans, team that's out of it. But the

1639
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: Titans still lead this one ten to six, and I

1640
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: can Pete Carroll understands. You got to throw all stops out.

1641
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: Your defense is getting the job done. Ryan Tannehill, by

1642
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: the way, a quarterback for the Titans today. They don't

1643
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: have much of an offense outside of Derrick Henry, but

1644
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: you got to get your offense going. And Drew Lock

1645
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: played well last week.

1646
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew Lock played well. I think they're gonna stick

1647
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith. He hasn't stunked it up out there.

1648
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: I think the Tennessee came with a good offensive plan

1649
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: and they're playing some some tight defense. But it's not

1650
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: it's not that Geno Smith is ruining their opportunity for

1651
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: a victory.

1652
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 2: Well, he's got plenty of time to bring him back

1653
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: down ten to six. All Right, we got more coming

1654
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: up with exciting second half and a full sleight of

1655
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: NFL football. This is Fox Sports Red Zone.

1656
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: Radio. Here's the toss.

1657
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 7: Algier going to run to the right, fist trying to

1658
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 7: help him squeezes it. Aljier down the far side, touchdown, Atlanta.

1659
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: How about that?

1660
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 7: You know what the old adage is, right, You draw

1661
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 7: them a line here and a line here, and you

1662
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 7: run the play in the alley.

1663
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: That's ninety two to nine in the game. Falcons Radio Network.

1664
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: Falcons in control at home against a Colts team that

1665
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 2: needs a win to keep in that playoff chase. Five

1666
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: point forty seven to go on the third quarter. Falcons

1667
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: lead at twenty to seven. This is Fox Sports Red

1668
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,960
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Speaker 1: All right.

1675
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: The Colts right now are got a fourth down. They

1676
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 2: are at the Atlanta fifteen yard line. I don't know

1677
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: if they're going to go for it here a little

1678
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: early for that, but it's twenty to seven Falcons. Colts

1679
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 2: come in at eight and six. Falcons obviously also need

1680
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: a win today keep their playoff hopes alive, which is

1681
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: really the story of just about every one of these games.

1682
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: The Lions, after the Vikings scored to take a twenty

1683
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 2: one to seventeen lead. Now are at the Minnesota seven

1684
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: yard line. Chris, give us an update on your Lions.

1685
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: What's happening in this game?

1686
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Lions were up on fourth and one. Very

1687
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 8: odd game with Jared Goffey, I think this is his third,

1688
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 8: had his third delay of game on this drive. But

1689
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 8: fourth and one they convert. Jamir Gibbs almost breaks it

1690
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 8: for the touchdown, gets tripped up at the last bit

1691
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 8: here Jamisons picked up some more yardage. So yeah, they're

1692
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 8: knocking on the doorstep once again.

1693
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: All Right, they're third and two right now at the

1694
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: eight yard line of the Vikings. Vikings leader twenty one

1695
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: to seventeen, seven and a half minutes to go. One

1696
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: of the big games this week, Rich obviously later on today,

1697
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: the Cowboys on the road against the Dolphins. A week ago,

1698
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: going into Buffalo, the Cowboys were the flavor of the week.

1699
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about the Cowboys and they were awful, awful

1700
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: and getting blown out by the Bills. In that game,

1701
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott had his worst game of the season. He

1702
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: went from MVP favorite to well down the list. But

1703
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: then the Dolphins this week Mike McDaniel, So he gets

1704
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: out there and talks about the media, making a big

1705
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: point that they don't have a single win against a

1706
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: team with a winning recker right now. Their best win

1707
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: ironically the seventy they put up on Denver. That's the

1708
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: only five hundred team they have a victory against. So

1709
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: he said, with all due respect to the media, I

1710
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 2: love when it starts with that, With all due respect,

1711
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: He's told his players to tell them me to go themselves, right,

1712
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, you know what, he really

1713
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 2: didn't have to go there. I mean, he you know,

1714
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: he was making the point leading up to that where

1715
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: he says, look, I just tell my team we got

1716
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: to get ready for the game that week. We can't

1717
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: be worrying about how, you know, how who we beaten,

1718
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: or what's the playoff scenario. He could have just left

1719
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: it at you know, right now, we're just focused on

1720
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. We're not worried about anything else, about anything

1721
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: in the past. What's done is done, we got to

1722
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: worry about the Cowboys. But he had to take it

1723
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: a step further. To me, it seemed a little out

1724
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: of character for a guy that is pretty chill McDaniel

1725
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: to use that. You know, hey, with all due respect,

1726
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: tell the media to go f themselves. Where does that

1727
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: come from?

1728
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: I think it was an effort to be funny. I

1729
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: think it was an effort to.

1730
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: Sound like he was laughing.

1731
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: I I well, I think he says a lot of

1732
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: things that are They kind of land in my eyes

1733
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: in the area of, oh, that's that's a cute thing

1734
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: for a head coach to say, you know, like he

1735
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: has a charm to him, like he has a sort

1736
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: of boyish wonderment when he talks about the accomplishments of

1737
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: his players like Tua, he fawns over Toua, and when

1738
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: he talks about Tyreek Hill and some of the playmakers

1739
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: around that offense. You know, there really is like a

1740
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: genuine wonderment and excitement that he has for the game

1741
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: that I think it comes off as charming and the

1742
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: media has eaten it up. I mean, you see his

1743
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: clips at his postgame press conference and his midweek press

1744
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: conferences go viral. All the time. He is more candid

1745
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: and more open, I would say than other coaches, even

1746
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: though he doesn't give a whole lot to the media

1747
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: in general. And we have a Touchdownsons Detroit Jared Goff.

1748
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: He finds a receiver in the back of the end

1749
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: zone as Saint Brown scores on the deep crossing route

1750
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: and that was just a well designed play.

1751
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: A shootout of it, dude, this was going to be

1752
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: a shootout game. Yeah, that was. I mean, both secondaries

1753
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: are getting lit up. Man, that's just a busted coverage

1754
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: right there.

1755
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, defenders and they're now safety.

1756
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 2: Get bite on the play fake in the backfield. Well,

1757
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: here's my point about it. If a coach throws a

1758
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: line at me and I'm covering the team, then my

1759
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: follow up is, so, why should we take any legitimacy

1760
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: in your ten wins considering you haven't beaten anybody with

1761
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: a winning record. I mean, you're telling me, with all

1762
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: due respect, tell them to go at themselves. Fine, I

1763
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: will continue to ask you that question. Why we should

1764
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: even consider you a legit Super Bowl contender when you

1765
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: haven't had a quality win all season. I have to

1766
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 2: be perfectly honest with you.

1767
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I think I think even if it was an attempt

1768
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: at humor, even if even if there was some truth

1769
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: behind it, it's kind of a non story for me. However,

1770
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 1: I know how hard beat writers work. Yeah, I know

1771
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: how hard that job is, and I know what they

1772
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: pay to do those jobs. In many places around this country,

1773
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: even in places like Miami. You think, oh, that's a

1774
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: big media market, those beat writers are probably compensated.

1775
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know, these guys have to.

1776
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: Eat a lot of crow from a lot of people,

1777
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: and they do this work because they're passionate about it

1778
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: and they love it. And when they have a coach

1779
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: say something like that to them, some of these guys

1780
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden have an ax to grind. So

1781
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: while the majority of people have fallen in love with

1782
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, if you have to work with him on

1783
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: a daily basis and you hear something like that, like

1784
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: you have a coach instructing the players to tell the

1785
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: media to go bleep themselves, well, all of a sudden,

1786
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: it may turn some of these relationships. So I wouldn't

1787
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: be completely shocked if in the very near future we

1788
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: start seeing a little bit more of a negative press

1789
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: standpoint covering the Miami Dolphins, especially if they get their

1790
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: doors blown off at home by the Cowboys this weekend.

1791
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 2: Well, that is where I was going. Now, I am

1792
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: picking Dallas in this game, as bad as Dallas has

1793
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: been on the road all season long.

1794
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: I have a Miami half week. I think Miami's got it.

1795
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like Miami's a logical here, right. We

1796
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: just saw what happened in Buffalo and what's gonna happen

1797
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: in Miami. Miami has been a juggernaut all season long,

1798
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:14,959
Speaker 2: except when they play quality teams. And I actually believe

1799
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: that I'm going to go against logic in this game.

1800
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: Miami at home should be favored. Let's put a slice

1801
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: of beats on it.

1802
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Let's put a slice of pizza on it, because this

1803
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: is basically an even spread here. I mean it, Well,

1804
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: Miami is a two point favorite.

1805
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 2: Maybe a point and a half something, Okay, I I

1806
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to go against logic here, which is something

1807
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: that I've done my entire career and without very much success,

1808
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: by the way, But I just have this sneaking suspicion

1809
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: We're going to see a much different Cowboys team in

1810
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: Miami than we saw in Buffalo.

1811
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: I feel like Johnny Public here a little bit because

1812
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: I think I don't know what the sharp betters are

1813
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: doing with this game. I haven't looked, I haven't discussed

1814
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: this with any of my people who are tied end

1815
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: to that stuff.

1816
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: But what I will say, mine's coming down. So money's

1817
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: coming in on the Cowboys. It is a point and

1818
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: a half.

1819
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: So there you go. And if that is sharp money,

1820
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: it makes sense because look, the Dolphins have problems. They

1821
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: have injuries all over their offensive line, and like we've

1822
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: talked about, I mean right here, and we've been talking

1823
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: about all season long, the Dolphins struggle against better competition.

1824
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: It's no secret.

1825
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why Mike McDaniel was bristling at

1826
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: the media when they were bringing up the fact that

1827
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,440
Speaker 1: they're better against some sub five hundred opponents.

1828
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: I gotta laugh right now. Cleveland had a third and two.

1829
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm a full two, and they had Flacco, of all people,

1830
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 2: sneak it up the middle and get the first down.

1831
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, Deshaun Watson, that was a

1832
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: design play for two yards Watts lacka got.

1833
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like forever ago. Right now,

1834
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: it is all Flaco Flack Clevelin.

1835
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, if the Browns make the playoffs,

1836
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: and right now now pass from Joe Flaca, that's three

1837
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: touchdown passes over three nights.

1838
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Cooper again in the middle of the end zone. So

1839
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: that's two scores for Cooper. He's having a career day

1840
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: every switch. Elite, elite quarterback.

1841
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: Okay, keep in mind again, Joe elite. He well, I'll

1842
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: put him this way. In his six years that he

1843
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 2: got the Ravens to the playoffs ahead, in all six years,

1844
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: he won one playoff game. At least survey all six

1845
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 2: gay years, he was never eliminated in his first playoff game.

1846
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 8: We are going to have playoff Joe Flacco, and that

1847
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 8: is something I never thought i'd.

1848
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 4: Got to see again.

1849
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 2: And hang on a second, why did the Jets get

1850
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: rid of Flacco so they win this game? Check this

1851
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: out and they will.

1852
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean they're there right now and dtr is in

1853
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: a quarterback again. It looks like they're going to do

1854
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: another wildcat type play here. Jerome Ford actually motioned to

1855
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback and they're running an outside play for the

1856
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: he gets kicked out about okay, twenty eight to seven

1857
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Houston trailing at home against the Cleveland Browns. So they

1858
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: advanced to ten wins. Okay, they're the leaders in the Wildcard.

1859
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: They're in fifth place in the AFC playoff chase. Okay,

1860
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: can the cast the Ravens.

1861
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if the Ravens lose at San Francisco,

1862
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 2: they're only game back, they can. Okay, there's games left

1863
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: here and they still have to play each other.

1864
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: They could end up as high as the four seed.

1865
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: But say they're the five seed. I was just looking

1866
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: at it.

1867
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: Joe, I'm sorry they have they have not games left. So,

1868
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: by the way, the Ravens Yes, after the forty nine

1869
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 2: Ers host the Dolphins and the Steelers. Correct, Okay, so

1870
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: those are They're not the games they're favored in, but

1871
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 2: not not cupcakes. And then as far as the Browns

1872
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: are concerned, they play the Jets next week at home.

1873
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 2: That should be a walk home.

1874
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, one of the Ravens' most embarrassing

1875
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: losses this season was two the Browns.

1876
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and then they finished the season against the Bengals.

1877
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 2: Bengals brutal loss. There was another flavor of the Week

1878
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: with Jake Browning. Jake Brown he was actually second in

1879
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 2: the NFL and passing efficiency behind brock Perty going into

1880
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 2: that game against the Steelers, and there were actually people

1881
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 2: making comparisons that he is like the new guy, like

1882
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: Jake Browning is showing everybody maybe we don't need Joe Burrow.

1883
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 2: Oh boy.

1884
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 1: And then the Steelers are up twenty four. Let me

1885
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: tell you something about Jake Browning and about and this

1886
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: is with all due respect just like Mike McDaniel, with

1887
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: all due respect to the media, with all due respect

1888
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: to Jake Browning. Yeah, him and Joe Burrow aren't even

1889
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: on the same street. They're not in the same neighborhood,

1890
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: they're not living in the same zip code.

1891
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 2: They don't they.

1892
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like, Jake Browning is a nice quarterback and

1893
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: he probably earned himself some money and credibility in this

1894
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: league for what he's done since Joe Burrow has been down.

1895
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has intangibles that cannot be taught. Now he

1896
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: needs to become more durable otherwise it's gonna become a

1897
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: huge problem for the Bengals moving forward. There's no question

1898
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: that part of the equation is your durability as a player.

1899
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: If you're a great player, well, that's fantastic, But if

1900
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: you can't still stay healthy, you're of no use to

1901
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 1: your franchise. Just go ahead and see the Cleveland Browns

1902
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: starting Joe Flacco off the couch because Deshaun Watson can't

1903
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: stay healthy. By the way you digress, Joe Burrow and

1904
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: Jake Browning are not the same. No, they're not. Obviously.

1905
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: By the way, we were remiss in telling you that

1906
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 2: after the Lions scored to take the lead, they missed

1907
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: the extra point. Wow, badgely missed blockstra point blocked. That's

1908
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: a miss. So instead of twenty four to twenty one,

1909
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 2: it's twenty three to twenty one, three minutes to go

1910
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: in the third quarter.

1911
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: In that game, the honey badger got his paw stuck

1912
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: in the jar. That's what he does.

1913
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: All right, we'll continue on here. It looks like we're

1914
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 2: going to have some exciting finishes for all the latest.

1915
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1916
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 7: Takes the snap, fleckle fire, get at the end zone

1917
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 7: Cooper touch down.

1918
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 1: Oh, Maury Cooper does it again.

1919
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 2: That's Browns Radio. Never We're right there. Browns lead to

1920
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 2: that Texans twenty eight to seven, three hundred and thirty

1921
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: eight yards passing three touchdowns are Joe Flacco. This is

1922
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve Harbin, Rich Ormberger live

1923
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 2: from the tirag dot com studios. I'm telling people have

1924
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: lost their minds during this latest time out. I got

1925
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: Chris running in here. No, no, nobody's lost in my

1926
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 2: hang on.

1927
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Let me let me set this up, because just put

1928
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: out this tweet at Ornberger on x dot com, the

1929
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 1: site formerly known as Twitter. Guys, Yeah, okay, this is

1930
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: the tweet. I'm gonna read it verbatim because this this

1931
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: is this is serious business, gang, serious question. What do

1932
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: the Browns do if Joe Flacco gets them into the

1933
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Now, listen, this is a ten win team

1934
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: after today, with an opportunity to win the AFC North

1935
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 1: move up in the AFC standings. They have the Jets

1936
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: and the Bengals left on the schedule. You're telling me

1937
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: that this Browns team can't beat the Jets and the

1938
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: Bengals to finish out to finish out their season, both

1939
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: the Jets in the Bengals playing with backup quarterbacks and

1940
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: the Flacco led Brown's offense just absolutely tuning up this

1941
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: Houston Texans defense that's been vaunted throughout the year.

1942
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 2: You guys have got You've got Flacco beating mahomes hang

1943
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson, hang on the forty nine Ers to win.

1944
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: That's in its fielding. You guys have lost your mom whoa, whoa,

1945
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: hang on Steve Hartman, Okay, lost your mind.

1946
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: So if if the season ends today, Jacksonville is in

1947
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: the four seed, the Browns are in the five seed.

1948
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: You're telling me because of the brown you.

1949
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Cannot you cannot squint and see away where Joe Flacco

1950
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 1: in this elite Browns defense beats the Jacksonville Jackson.

1951
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 8: Feels like the twenty twelve Ravens and then had a

1952
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 8: good defense, a good O line in the receiver that takes.

1953
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about getting in the playoffs of beatting

1954
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Jacksonville to win a title. You guys are talking about

1955
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: him getting through Mahomes Hark Jackson. I don't want the

1956
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers to win a Super Bowl.

1957
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 4: I don't know if Joe Flacco can do that, but

1958
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 4: I know that Miles Garrett can.

1959
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 2: See thank you, thank you. I knew I know that

1960
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 2: ray Lewis could. Yeah, I knew that ray.

1961
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 4: Lewis all Joe Flacco has to do is score a

1962
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 4: couple of touchdowns and not turn it over. I'll let

1963
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett got the.

1964
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: Arm for it too, and Amari Cooper just goes.

1965
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean, all of a sudden, you guys have thank

1966
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 2: Fao with his second Super Bowl MVP award in hand. Dude,

1967
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: the flak is back. Joe was elite.

1968
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Joe finally have our answer after ten years collective.

1969
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 2: Second, by the way, because this is the Houston Texans.

1970
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 2: The Texans have been outrageously over in all.

1971
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 1: Season elections, have been without their starting let Stroud was

1972
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: on path to be the NFL MVP one.

1973
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,759
Speaker 2: This was case Keenum going against the Browns today against

1974
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 2: elite Joe Flacco again, Houston has no offense.

1975
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: This is what great teams. Dude's a bad team, Steve.

1976
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: They have a kickoff return for a touchdat. I mean,

1977
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 2: that's it. That's it. That's the entire huge offense. But

1978
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: hang on, do not overplay. No, this is what happened.

1979
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: Not overplaying any week.

1980
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 2: I Am not over play every week. Do tell me

1981
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 2: that a crazy Steven, you've lost your mind. I have

1982
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 2: not lost my mind.

1983
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco twenty twenty four. Flacco Cooper all the way

1984
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: to the White House.

1985
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 2: In the many years I've been sitting with you, I

1986
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: have You've lost you my many times.

1987
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 1: But this is your most extreme. All right, this is.

1988
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 2: This is out there by the way. I'll tell you

1989
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 2: what is happening. Gino Smith has led the Seahawks back.

1990
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 2: They have finally taken the lead on the road against

1991
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: the Titans thirteen to ten. We got nine and a

1992
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 2: half minutes ago in the fourth quarter in that game

1993
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: as a Geno Smith touchdown pass to DK Metcalf. So

1994
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 2: Gino Smith actually putting up some decent numbers right by

1995
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: the way.

1996
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: Who did Baltimore beat in that Super Bowl back in

1997
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen February.

1998
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers. That was the lights out game?

1999
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Interesting, I know, I know that was a Jim Harbaugh

2000
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: forty nine ers and the forty nine ers the most

2001
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: people thought.

2002
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: They remember they were inches away for the forty nine ers.

2003
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: How close crabtree right there right, everybody said.

2004
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 1: Everybody said about Jim Harber, he's a great regular season coach,

2005
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 1: and then you get him into the postseason, he's.

2006
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: Gonna do something stupid.

2007
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 1: What if they said about Kyle Shanahan over these years,

2008
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: great regular season coach, gonna be the posts, He's gonna

2009
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: make the big mistake.

2010
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 3: Joe Flaco is going to look the Brox of the

2011
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl's what's gonna happens?

2012
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 2: Here's gonna happen. So the Browns are going to be

2013
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl ahead against the forty nine Ers. Yes,

2014
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 2: and then Rock Party gets hurt. The week of the game,

2015
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: they signed Colin Kaepernick, who gets his revenge, comes back

2016
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,839
Speaker 2: after six years out of the league and beats Joe

2017
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Flacco of the superinting I love it so much, I'm

2018
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 2: gonna throw up. Yeah, that's how I range. Is your

2019
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 2: flac raight now, Monty, I'm opening the wine. Yes, there

2020
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 2: it is. It's go time. I know it's a present.

2021
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: I know that's for later on. So what is more

2022
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 2: likely winning the Super Bowl or Colin Kaepernick coming back

2023
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers and winning the Super bowst.

2024
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but I'm just saying,

2025
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 1: all right, you know, to bring this back down to

2026
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: planet Earth. Yes, I'm just saying this had ten win

2027
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: Browns team. Yes, they're facing the Jets of the Bengals next.

2028
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: If they finished the season with twelve wins. This is

2029
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: going to be a two or a three seed and

2030
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: an AFC North winner.

2031
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: Would you pick them to win on the road in

2032
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: case in the playoffs? Dude, look at Casey this year, Casey,

2033
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: look at Casey. They are beatable this year.

2034
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 4: This year.

2035
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh Yeah's a city for

2036
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: like six games, and.

2037
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be something where

2038
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:39,759
Speaker 1: Kadarius Coney does something foolish and then our lasting memory

2039
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes is in the.

2040
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,839
Speaker 2: Lions right now, trying to get into the end zone

2041
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: and they get the first down there though if they

2042
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: didn't get the first down inside the four yard line.

2043
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Right now, Lions lead the Vikings by a score of

2044
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,520
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty one. Remember a Lion's victory today clinches

2045
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: an NFC nor A title for them and pretty much

2046
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: be curtains for the Vikings in terms of their playoff hopes.

2047
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 2: All right, So looking around the league right now, game

2048
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about for good reason, there's no nothing

2049
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 2: really writing on this one. Packers trying to stay alive.

2050
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm okay, So the Packers would have to win out.

2051
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 2: They're six and eight. They're winning today by two touchdowns

2052
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 2: on the road against the Panthers. They're at the Vikings

2053
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 2: next week that would officially be an elimination game, and

2054
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 2: then they host the Bears. Yeah, so I guess the

2055
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 2: Packers would a win today. I mean nine and eight.

2056
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 2: We could literally get a wildcard team.

2057
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 4: At eight and nine.

2058
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could in the NFC, Yeah, yeah, quite easily.

2059
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 2: But nine and eight to me would seem to be

2060
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 2: a sure puncher ticket to the postseason. On the NFC side,

2061
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 2: I just I look at.

2062
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: The NFC as being so intriguing, especially considering what we

2063
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: have this weekend with the San Francisco forty nine Ers

2064
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: hosting the Ravens. Look the forty nine Ers, excuse me,

2065
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: they look like like a team that nobody really can beat.

2066
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: But what happens if the Ravens figure it out? Like

2067
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: what happens if all of a sudden that brings them

2068
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: back down to Planet Earth all of a sudden, the

2069
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: same parody that we feel in the AFC, we may

2070
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: start feeling that way about the NFC, Like it sort

2071
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: of feels like, oh, it's the forty nine ers and

2072
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: everybody else in the NFC. They're gonna be who emerges

2073
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: in the NFC play Championship game. But what happens if

2074
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: they don't have a good showing here on Monday Night football?

2075
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: This to me, it would be the best thing for

2076
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: the league in terms of storyline. I don't necessarily seeing

2077
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 1: it going that way for the Ravens, but all of

2078
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, we would have a much different feeling about

2079
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 1: what we've seen from the NFC this year.

2080
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 2: By the way, you remember a couple of weeks ago,

2081
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 2: Sam Hall was actually leading the entire NFL in passing yards. Yeah,

2082
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 2: here is the worst passer rating this week so far,

2083
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 2: Sam Hal against the Jets today is six of twenty

2084
01:40:55,640 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 2: two fifty six yards, two picks, no touchdowns. That is

2085
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 2: a passer rating of one point seven one point set.

2086
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 2: Remember perfect is one fifty eight point three like Baker

2087
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 2: Mayfield put up last week. His passer rating today is

2088
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 2: one point seven. Not a good day at the office.

2089
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. We know Ron Rivera's got

2090
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 2: to be obviously gone after the season. I mean, he's

2091
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 2: had a long run as the Washing coach and it

2092
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 2: hasn't worked out for a variety of reasons. Is that

2093
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: a job you want if you are looking for a

2094
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 2: head coaching job in the NFL.

2095
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna rewind back to twenty twelve for just

2096
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 1: one more se I can leave it with the Baltimore Rivens.

2097
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: You know who Joe Flacco beat in terms of quarterbacks

2098
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: in the Wildcard Divisional AFC Championship brown Who did he

2099
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: beat that? He beat Andrew Luck with the Indianapolis Colts

2100
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: inde Wildcard Browns.

2101
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:45,839
Speaker 2: He's retired.

2102
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: He then beat Peyton Manning okay, Denver proctied, Yeah, and

2103
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: then he then beat Tom Brady in the AFC champion

2104
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: He retired all three of those guys on his way

2105
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: to face Colin Kaepernick, who was thrown out of the

2106
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: league on on one on one that season with the

2107
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:02,719
Speaker 1: San Francisco Fortnite Just playoff, Joe.

2108
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 2: Flack, Okay, that was.

2109
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: Still the Cleveland Browns.

2110
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 2: Okay. It's like the Detroit Lions. They're the Lions until

2111
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 2: they prove otherwise. The Cleveland Browns are the Cleveland Browns

2112
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: until they prove.

2113
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: By the way, We're going to prove something to you

2114
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: this year.

2115
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 2: We'll see the job is a good job, and I'll

2116
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 2: tell you why.

2117
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 1: Because the commanders are going to have some draft capital

2118
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 1: here to work with. The Commanders have a lot of

2119
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: money to spend on whoever they hires their next head coach.

2120
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 1: The history actually helps them because a guy like Bill

2121
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 1: Belichick may be available for hire.

2122
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: This offsely nobody wants him.

2123
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: What what?

2124
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 5: What?

2125
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: What?

2126
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 2: Don't we even seventy two year old Belichick? He's done,

2127
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: by the way, Shortly after this show, our podcast is

2128
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 2: going out. That's what they said about Joe show. Be

2129
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 2: sure to.

2130
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Check it, probably on the same couch.

2131
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the bad cast and they

2132
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 2: will walk of shame situation for Belichick. Just search Yes

2133
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: and me. Sure also follow rate and review of the podcast. Again,

2134
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio whenever you get your podcasts.

2135
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 2: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

2136
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 2: the air. I don't know how you would rate this

2137
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 2: show other than complete insanity. Find out what is trending

2138
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: right now? As Monsey I'm sure wants away in on

2139
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 2: all the conversation. So we got the Browns winning the

2140
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl with Joe Flacco.

2141
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 10: Did Joe just throw another touchdown pass to a Mariy

2142
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 10: Cooper or is my my thing just delayed?

2143
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: No, you saw it correctly Joe Flacco only throws touchou.

2144
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that was a two point conversion. Okay,

2145
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 2: hang on with your after by.

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01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 10: Yes, you're right, Kareem Hunt with the rushing touchdown, and

2147
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 10: then he threw it to a Marie Cooper for a

2148
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 10: two point conversion.

2149
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 9: There there we go.

2150
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 2: Do they not have a kicker? They don't need them? No,

2151
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 2: wonder why why are the Browns going for two every time?

2152
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,839
Speaker 1: Because you got etr and Joe Flacco taking turns?

2153
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I do believe per Brown's insider Mike Mayer that

2154
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 4: their kicker is injured.

2155
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,839
Speaker 2: Wow, so Dustin Hopkins who had two extra points earlier

2156
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 2: in the game. I mean, you wouldn't be going for

2157
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: two when you're up thirty far, But I mean a

2158
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 2: kicker when you have Joe Placco.

2159
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 10: Joe Flacco has thrown for three hundred and fifty seven yards,

2160
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 10: three touchdowns, two interceptions in this game.

2161
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 9: I mean he's thrown for more.

2162
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 10: Than three hundred yards in three straight games for the

2163
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 10: first time in his career.

2164
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,759
Speaker 2: How many people out there are playing with Joe Flacco

2165
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 2: their quarterback in a fantasy imagine.

2166
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 9: If you have both? Oh, I would cry, I would

2167
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 9: just weeping tears. Of Well, it depends are you playing

2168
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 9: against it? Then you're crying just because you have no chance.

2169
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 2: Two and fifty two yards receiving for Amari Cooper.

2170
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that's insanity.

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01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, he actually joins Chorrell Owens as the only wide

2172
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 10: receivers with two hundred yard receiving games for three different franchises.

2173
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Sean, who do you know what? Deshaun is my favorite

2174
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: mustard in terms of quarterbacks.

2175
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 2: No one's taking that money off your watch.

2176
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 1: You gave him the money.

2177
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Now you're stuck with you.

2178
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, but they could be stuck with Joe Flacco.

2179
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 9: Thirty six to seven is a score against the Texans.

2180
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 10: The Packers are still beating the Panthers, but Carolina does

2181
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 10: have the ball. There's about nine and a half minutes

2182
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 10: to go. Green Bay up thirty to sixteen. The Jets

2183
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 10: happened all over the Commanders, but they actually haven't scored

2184
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 10: in the second half. All of the score he came

2185
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 10: in the first half. Twenty to seven is the score.

2186
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 10: Commanders are in the red zone at New York's thirteen

2187
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 10: yard line and five minutes to go in the third quarter.

2188
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 10: I was really hoping that Detroit would score with Sam Laporta,

2189
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 10: but no, I think it was Jimior Gibbs for his

2190
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 10: second touchdown of the day, Detroit beating Minnesota thirty to

2191
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 10: twenty one early in the fourth. You mentioned Gino Smith

2192
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 10: finally throwing that touchdown late in the game in the

2193
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 10: fourth quarter, and it has taken the lead.

2194
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 9: Over the Titans thirteen to ten. Four minutes to go

2195
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 9: in the game.

2196
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 10: The Colts have struggled a little bit, but the Falcons

2197
01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 10: continue to just extend their lead little by little with

2198
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 10: another field golder of twenty three to ten halfway through

2199
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 10: the fourth quarter.

2200
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 9: And Tyreek Hill is active for.

2201
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 10: The Dolphins, So don't worry, fantasy managers. He's ready back

2202
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 10: to you.

2203
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 2: Guys, all right, mon see, thank you very much. This

2204
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. All right now, I

2205
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 2: want to update here on the Colts and the Falcons.

2206
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 2: Colts have just gotten nothing today. They have This is

2207
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 2: not only a twenty three to ten Falcons lead, but

2208
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,959
Speaker 2: they've dominated statistically in this game. Taylor Heineke is outplayed

2209
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew really quick. If Joe Flacco wins the Super

2210
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 2: Bowl with the Browns, any Super Bowl MVP, is he

2211
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame?

2212
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: No? He's not.

2213
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 5: How is he not?

2214
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 1: He's a two tea's never super Bowl winner or two

2215
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl MVPN. He's not in the Hall Fame

2216
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 1: with two different franchises.

2217
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 2: Okay, not in the Hall of Fame again, Jim Plunkett

2218
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 2: won two Super Bowls. He's not in the Hall of

2219
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 2: Fame for him in Well, he never made a pro

2220
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 2: bra Canton. We need revisionist history, and we have a few.

2221
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: You've never Jacket, never been a Pro bowler, if you

2222
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 2: never made first team All Pro or even second team

2223
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: All Pro.

2224
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're just gonna put Super Bowl right

2225
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 1: the history of the game without Plunket and.

2226
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: Flask this, if you're just going to put Super Bowl

2227
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 2: MVPs in the Hall of Fame, is Malcolm Smith going

2228
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 2: to be in the Hall of Fame.

2229
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm putting him in simply for the list of quarterbacks

2230
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 4: that Rich listed off that he beat on that Super

2231
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 4: Bowl run.

2232
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 8: Look, it wasn't AFC that year, great, Oh it was nuts.

2233
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 2: Okay again, that was a good Ravens team of the

2234
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 2: really cod coach and Jarhdan Harvey. By the ways, quarterbacks

2235
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 2: are gone, but John Harbaugh is still there. Who did

2236
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 2: they have at quarterback that year. Me okay, And then

2237
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: did you look at his postseason sight?

2238
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I saw them that year. Yes, they were good.

2239
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: All right. Now I'm talking about the press, and I'm

2240
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 2: not going to go back to twenty twelve. I'm talking

2241
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 2: about twenty twenty three. Assuming the Colts cannot come back

2242
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 2: in this game against the Falcons, and obviously the Texans

2243
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: are going down hard to Joe Flacco today, So that

2244
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 2: means the Colts will be eight and seven, Houston be

2245
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 2: eight and Sevenburg is at eight and seven, Cincinnati is

2246
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: eight and seven. If the Broncos beat the Patriots at home,

2247
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 2: they would be eight and seven. That's five teams with

2248
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: the same record competing for one playoff spot.

2249
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 8: This is one playoff spot. I mean the NFL they

2250
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 8: got the Bills are nine and six. Their scriptwriters got

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01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 8: busy this year. They wanted this to be wide open

2252
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 8: on the AFC side, and it is it. Look this

2253
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 8: is this is the most fun I've had watching football

2254
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 8: this year. And that's crazy to say.

2255
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: With all the injuries to starting quarterbacks, this league has

2256
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 1: been in more flux this season than I've ever seen.

2257
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 2: And also, like I can make.

2258
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: An argument that we've seen some of the most compelling

2259
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 1: games from some of the most underwhelming names in football.

2260
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. Drew Lock captivated audiences in primetime this past week.

2261
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 2: It's nuts what we've seen so far this year. Lions

2262
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 2: are just intercepted a pass, so get the ball back.

2263
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 2: With a nine point lead, Vikings are in trouble.

2264
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 1: And guess what.

2265
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: The Titans just scored to retake the lead against Seattle.

2266
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,839
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry up the middle for the two yard touchdown.

2267
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 2: He's got eighty eight yards in a couple of scores,

2268
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: so right now penning the extra point. The Titans have

2269
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 2: the lead against the Seahawks, and again, Titans are going

2270
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 2: nowhere this year. But the Seahawks need to win this game.

2271
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 2: Three twenty one to go in the fourth quarter, Titans

2272
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 2: lead it by a score of seventeen to thirteen, and

2273
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 2: Gino Smith is going to have to come up with

2274
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 2: some magic or it is over for Seattle.

2275
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: What's crazy is I don't know if the Browns are

2276
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,759
Speaker 1: going to be able to afford Joe Flacco after this season.

2277
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,719
Speaker 2: You are just unbelievable. Look to stop with the Joe Flacker.

2278
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 2: Here's the deal.

2279
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 1: I think that the Tennessee Titans are much better team

2280
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: than a lot of people want to give them credit for.

2281
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 1: And it comes down to one name and one name only.

2282
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: And it's not Derrick Henry and I thought Will Levis,

2283
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 1: it's really loving Mike rab Mike Rable is a hell

2284
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: of a ball coup.

2285
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: Well he's five and nine right now.

2286
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: I understand that, But this lock loves him. This team

2287
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: plays hard every single week. That is one coach who

2288
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: there have been some rumors that he may be one

2289
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 1: of these guys on the hot seat, that he may

2290
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: be on his way out of tennis.

2291
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 2: Well, well he'll be the new England Patriots new coach.

2292
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the case. Lady saying, you

2293
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 2: know Belichick is gone, all right, So he's gone after

2294
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 2: the season that has already been decided and he has

2295
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 2: a legacy with Atriots. Got you just said that he's gone.

2296
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 2: You don't know that he's gone. If he had won

2297
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 2: out he didn't, then they're gonna lose again today to

2298
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: the Denver So he's gone. Mike Vrabel with Mike Rabel,

2299
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 2: if you were Mike Vrabel, would you leave the Tennessee

2300
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 2: Titans as they are right now? To take that New

2301
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 2: England job. Let me ask you this question. You haven't

2302
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 2: answer my question. If you are Mike Vrabel, and I

2303
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 2: agree with he's a hell of a coach, would you

2304
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 2: leave your situation with the Titans to take the job

2305
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: with the Patriots? Okay, hang on, this is what you

2306
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 2: do if you're Mike Rabel. Okay, m hmm.

2307
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: Your agent tells you that the Patriots haven't they are looking.

2308
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: They're looking to hire you. He he is currently under

2309
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: contract with the Tennessee Titans.

2310
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: Think Mike Rabel has interest in the New England job.

2311
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 2: But here's the deal. He would have to get fired first.

2312
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: He would have to get fired.

2313
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 1: Trade for him. It happens you are trading coaches. I

2314
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 1: do not think that's what's going to happen. Let me

2315
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,679
Speaker 1: is New England and A he has to be fired

2316
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 1: and be or traded for. Or B he has to

2317
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 1: go to the Tennessee Titans and ask him ask them

2318
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: to allow him to resign from his post so he

2319
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 1: can go coach against them.

2320
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: And won compensation that much. This is crazy. This is

2321
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 2: crazy if you're trying to get those New England Patriots

2322
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 2: back on track. May all agree that Mike Rabel is

2323
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 2: a heck of a coach being worth a draft pick

2324
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 2: right to get a quality coach in to try to

2325
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: get the Patriots back on track. What about Jerrod Mayo? Okay,

2326
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 2: who I'm just saying that. I'm just talking about.

2327
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 1: Paid for the Patriots for years. He's been a loyal soldier.

2328
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 2: He's not Mike Vrabel. You have Vrabel available defensive coach,

2329
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 2: given everybody's looking.

2330
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: For a defensive minded head coach this year these days. Yeah, No, listen,

2331
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots X coach is not gonna be Mike Rabel.

2332
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 1: The Patriots next coach next season most likely is still

2333
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in my opinion, No, he's gone.

2334
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 2: Why do you keep hanging on to this? Belichick? How

2335
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 2: do you sell the Patriots with Belichick coming back? How

2336
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 2: do you sell them?

2337
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 4: Do you think their quarterback next year kind of changes

2338
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 4: that job as well?

2339
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 2: Who is going to be their quarterback? Is going to

2340
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: be Mac Jones or Bailey Zappi? Neither one of those

2341
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 2: is moving.

2342
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: You're going to have a top pick B one or two. Yes,

2343
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: they're a rookie, they're gonna go into the draft. Okay,

2344
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: So here's here's my pitch. If I'm Belichick to Robert Kraft.

2345
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: My pitch is, look, Bob, we haven't had a good

2346
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: quarterback on this roster since Brady left. We went in

2347
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones and remember, and he's gonna convince him

2348
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 1: of this. He's gonna say, and remember you got behind

2349
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 1: that pick as well.

2350
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 2: And it told me, hold on, if man Craft, I say, no, no, no, Bill,

2351
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 2: don't get the I have allowed you to put this

2352
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:15,520
Speaker 2: roster together, including the fact that we don't have a quarterback.

2353
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 2: So all these moves were one hundred percent on. You

2354
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 2: don't say you know you backed me up. I've backed

2355
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: up everything you've done. If you're Belichick told me Mac

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01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 2: Jones was the guy.

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01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: If you're Belcheck and you're smart, you say, and I

2358
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 1: remember we had that conversation in the offseason last year. Yeah,

2359
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 1: and you said, why not have two offensive coordinators? And

2360
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 1: I said, that's a great idea, Bobby. We'll have to

2361
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: We'll have Matt Patricia and Joe Judge both talked to

2362
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: our and you.

2363
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't trust anymore. You're gone, and we're gonna make it.

2364
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 2: How much does vrabel costs us? We'll make the deal.

2365
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 2: I will continue on here down to the finish line.

2366
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,680
Speaker 2: And the Seahawks engineer a comeback. They need one desperately

2367
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 2: on the road against the Titans. For all the answers,

2368
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2369
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 4: Tannahill gifts Henry up the middle.

2370
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 1: The zone now.

2371
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 11: Touchdown titles Derrick Hinry not to be tonyed touchdown number

2372
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 11: eleven on the campaign, and the Titans take the lead

2373
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:13,839
Speaker 11: with three.

2374
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:14,919
Speaker 1: Twenty one remaining.

2375
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: All right, that's WGFAX one to four point five Titans

2376
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 2: Radio Network. Titans lead the Seahawks seventeen to thirteen, but

2377
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 2: the Seahawks are in Tennessee Territory trying to pull this

2378
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,799
Speaker 2: game out. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Hartbin

2379
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 2: and Oremberger with you. We are live from the tyraq

2380
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. All right, so let's keep her eye

2381
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 2: on the Seahawks. Seahawks have a first and ten at

2382
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 2: the Tennessee thirty eight yard line. They need a touchdown.

2383
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 2: They're down four in this game. A minute forty nine

2384
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: to go. Gino Smith now over two hundred yards passing

2385
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 2: in this game. How big is this for the Seahawks?

2386
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: It's pretty much their season. They lose, they fall to

2387
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: seven and eight, and then they would need to win

2388
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: a couple of games and need some help along the way,

2389
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 2: so they need this. Meanwhile, the Lions right now are

2390
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 2: looking good with a thirty to twenty one lead. By

2391
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 2: the way, it's amazing. So I'm looking here. I am

2392
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 2: to watch this lower TV. I'm looking through this lamp.

2393
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not quite sure.

2394
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 1: Why this lamp is there.

2395
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 2: The Christmas story leg lamp, the leg lamp right here, which,

2396
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm for Agila. That must be Italian.

2397
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful lamp, it really is, except it's right

2398
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: in the middle of them.

2399
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Displayed you'd missed through the lamp, a beautiful Nick Mullins

2400
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 1: passed down the sideline to one of those tight ends.

2401
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: So the Vikings are in scoring distance again here first

2402
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: in goal and plenty of time left in this game.

2403
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: But Tren is to go here.

2404
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 2: So the Vikings first and goal at the nine yard line,

2405
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 2: trying to get back in this game. Mullins is looking

2406
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: throws to the end zone and it is overthrown. Nick Mullins,

2407
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 2: by the way, three hundred and thirteen yards, passing a

2408
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns. He's also thrown three interceptions.

2409
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: I will say that this game that the Lions got

2410
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: very lucky. Justin Jefferson, who is being guarded in the

2411
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: end zone, had a case for a little defensive pass

2412
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: interference a high thrown ball, but he might have had

2413
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 1: a chance at it. Mullins gets hit as he throws.

2414
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 8: Ooh, that is nothing to something watching the Lions defense,

2415
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 8: Kirby Joseph got flagged for a targeting and also got

2416
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 8: injured on the play and had to leave the game.

2417
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 8: He's responsible for two of the picks so far today.

2418
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 8: On Nick Mullins, he's he's out of the game.

2419
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.

2420
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna need something out of Aiden Hutchinson here because

2421
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: every time the Vikings have gotten in the scoring area

2422
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 1: in the red zone, they've had some success. Thirty to

2423
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's where the ballgame currently is at in Minnesota.

2424
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Detroit with the lead here and like you said, fighting

2425
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: for control of this division overall, looking like they're gonna

2426
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 1: be the NFC North winners if they hang on here.

2427
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 2: What happened here the Packers and the Panthers, and the

2428
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 2: Panthers down eight have a first and goal at the

2429
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay ten yard line. Packers with a lake game

2430
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 2: call lapse against the pathetic Panthers. This would not be

2431
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 2: good for the Packers. Well, that would eliminate them from

2432
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 2: any chance to make it into the postseason. I'm just

2433
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 2: wondering they had gotten the ball back here. So the

2434
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 2: Packers had the ball after the Panthers scored at a

2435
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 2: three and out, and now the Panthers are on a

2436
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 2: roll right down the field with five minutes to go,

2437
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: plenty of time in the fourth quarter.

2438
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, incomplete yeah yeah, thrown out of the back of

2439
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 1: the end zone looking for a corner route there brings

2440
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: up third and goal for the Minnesota Vikings at the Detroit.

2441
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 8: Nine touchdown Panthers DJ shark. Wow conversion away from tying

2442
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 8: this game.

2443
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

2444
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 2: So the Packers collapsing on the road against the Panthers,

2445
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 2: and as you mentioned, still four minutes to go in

2446
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: that game.

2447
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 1: Now everything has to go through the tinge, the coloring,

2448
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 1: the hue of the fact that Chris Purfet is a

2449
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions fan. However, he did call the Green Bay

2450
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 1: Packers collapse. He did call it our our engineer here.

2451
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 1: He is a Detroit Lions fan. So I remember when

2452
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 1: he was whispering this into my ear I said, yeah,

2453
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 1: but listen, you're a big Jared Goff guy. He goes, Now,

2454
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's something wrong here. I don't trust

2455
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: all of the buzz around. Jordan Love and Chris you

2456
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 1: were one hundred percent correct.

2457
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 2: All right. The Seahawks right now trailing the Titans seventeen

2458
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 2: to thirteen a minute nineteen ago. They have a second

2459
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 2: and ten at the Titans twenty seven yard line. Seahawks

2460
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 2: need to win this game.

2461
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 4: Since what's happening here Carolina?

2462
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: So Carolina just got the two point conversion to tie

2463
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 2: up that game against the Backers. Wow, what a collapse.

2464
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 1: Yours fans have got to be really sick right now.

2465
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: All right.

2466
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 2: Geno Smith on second and ten at the twenty seven

2467
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 2: yard line, throws to the end zone. It is incomplete,

2468
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 2: but a flag on the play. It could be passing interference,

2469
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 2: giving Seattle a first down at the one yard line.

2470
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: Avery was face guarding DK Metcalf on that throw by

2471
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 1: by Gino Smith. And if you look at it, he

2472
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 1: never even turned his head around for this football, and

2473
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean he was all over him.

2474
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there it is pass interference. Ball will be placed.

2475
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't know about the two yard line. I would

2476
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: imagine giving Seattle the ball first in goal with a

2477
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 2: minute nine to go. Mike Rabel not happy with that call. Okay,

2478
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 2: so Minnesota kicks off.

2479
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh, actually they're.

2480
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 2: Gonna They're actually gonna place at the five yard line.

2481
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: It is thirty to twenty four in Minnesota. Detroit still

2482
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 1: has the lead there. Okay, So why state it all

2483
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: from the five yard line? I think because they called

2484
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: it on the hold before the end zone throw.

2485
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 2: Well, the Seahawks run it up the middle and they're

2486
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 2: gonna be short of the goal line. I don't Why

2487
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 2: was the infraction at the five?

2488
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: So basically as dk Metcalf was making was stemming off

2489
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 1: of the initial route. You saw Avery get his hands

2490
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: around his waist, and that's when they call defensive pass

2491
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 1: interference because the.

2492
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 2: Ball was already in the air.

2493
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 1: So first and goal at the five turns into second

2494
01:59:56,880 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 1: and goal at the Tennessee two or three yard.

2495
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:03,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee has two timeouts remaining, so they can stop it.

2496
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 2: If the Seahawks score with not a lot of time left,

2497
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 2: how is the game gonna end up? It's simple for

2498
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:09,839
Speaker 2: all the answers.

2499
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 1: Keep it here.

2500
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 2: Much more coming up this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2501
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 13: Shotgoke Snap, Rice Young, pressure off the backside, throw the

2502
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 13: end zone, Chark hauls it in with his fingertips. Touchdown Panthers.

2503
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 2: That's ninety nine to seven of the Fox Panthers or

2504
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 2: Radio Network Panthers have come all the way back. They

2505
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 2: have tied this game against the Packers thirty all two

2506
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 2: minute warning in Carolina. This is Fox Sports Red Zone

2507
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,560
Speaker 2: Radio Steve Hartman and rich Oremberger broadcasting live from the

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02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 2: tirag dot com studios tyrack dot com. We're gonna help

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2512
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: is over in Tennessee and the This is a huge

2513
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 2: win on the road for the Seattle Seahawks. They come back.

2514
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,880
Speaker 2: They were trailing this entire game until late Geno Smith

2515
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 2: delivering the game winning touchdown pass. So the Seahawks moved

2516
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 2: to eight and seven with a twenty eight to seventeen

2517
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 2: victory there. Meanwhile, we got a lot going on in Minnesota.

2518
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 2: The Lions have the ball and a lead of thirty

2519
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 2: to twenty four. There is still more than four minutes

2520
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: to go in this game. The Vikings are hanging in there. Again,

2521
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: a Vikings loss could be fatal for them. Lions trying

2522
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 2: to clinch the NFC North Division title with a victory today.

2523
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 2: So the Lions have the second and seventeen at their

2524
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 2: own thirty seven yard line, four minutes to go. Another

2525
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:45,080
Speaker 2: game that we thought was over, that's not, Commanders at

2526
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 2: the Jets. Jets have dominated this game throughout, but the

2527
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,120
Speaker 2: Commanders have come back, and all of a sudden, the

2528
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 2: Commanders now have the ball and trailing twenty seven to

2529
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:58,080
Speaker 2: twenty one. Yeah, so the Jets are being the Jets,

2530
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 2: the Jets. The Jets are Jets themselves as always.

2531
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2532
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 1: The game to watch is, in my opinion, is this

2533
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Browns Texans game, Because all of a sudden, it's closer

2534
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 1: than it was.

2535
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're two touchdowns up with four minutes to go.

2536
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 1: Can we see a little magic here in Houston?

2537
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 2: Is it possible? Are we going to write off this

2538
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 2: game before it's over? Well, the Texans attempted a on

2539
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 2: side kick that was recovered by the Browns. That'll hurt

2540
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 2: their chances. That'll hurt their chances with their chances.

2541
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 4: It might be flickering here.

2542
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 2: Well, I still I'm still got my eye in this

2543
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 2: Minnesota Lions game. Right now, third and sixteen for the

2544
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 2: Lions from their own thirty eight yard line. We're at

2545
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 2: three minutes in this game. So if they don't get

2546
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 2: a first down here, they will punt the ball back

2547
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 2: to Minnesota. It's been a quite a battle of the

2548
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this one. Jared Goff thirty of forty two

2549
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven yards and a touchdown, no picks.

2550
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 2: Nick Mullins nineteen or twenty nine three hundred and thirty

2551
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 2: six yards, two touchdowns, but he has thrown three interceptions

2552
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:04,120
Speaker 2: in this game. And I mentioned the fact earlier that

2553
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 2: Sam Howe was having the worst game ever. His passer

2554
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:14,839
Speaker 2: rating was at one point seven. Uh, and he got yanked.

2555
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 2: So they put in Jacoby Brissett. Yeah, who goes seven

2556
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 2: for ten seventy four yards and a score. So bet

2557
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,960
Speaker 2: Sam hol with his one point seven passer rating got yanked.

2558
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 2: They bring in Jacoby Brissett, there's another name for the

2559
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 2: pass and he leads him for a couple of touchdowns.

2560
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 1: I know that it's Trevor Simons starting a quarterback. And

2561
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: I know the way it's gone for the New York

2562
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 1: Jets this season, but if you find a way to

2563
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:42,839
Speaker 1: lose this game.

2564
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 2: Yes easily. And I know what are we talking about.

2565
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 2: We're talking about that Jets. They're gonna lose this game.

2566
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. They're safe, Robert Sala safe.

2567
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson came out this morning and he spoke to

2568
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 1: the New York Post and he said, if there's one

2569
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,760
Speaker 1: thing I know is who my head coach, and my

2570
02:03:58,840 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 1: general manager.

2571
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers told him that that's gonna be your head said.

2572
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 1: Robert Sala and Joe Douglas have nothing to worry about

2573
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 1: when they sit down for Christmas Ham, when they're carving

2574
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: the turkey, when they're when they're you know, finishing, when

2575
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 1: they're smelling the lamb chops roasting in the oven tomorrow morning.

2576
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 1: One thing they can be assured of is that daddy

2577
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:22,840
Speaker 1: has a job next season. Like when the kids are

2578
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:26,040
Speaker 1: finishing opening their presence under the tree. There is one

2579
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 1: thing the Douglas household, in the solid household, can rest

2580
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: assured on is that nobody is Nobody's moving to Washington.

2581
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: They're not nobody's moving to La to accept a new job.

2582
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 1: They're staying right where they are in New York.

2583
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 2: All right. So again, it was twenty seven to seven

2584
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 2: at halftime Jets and Sam Hall gets binched and they

2585
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 2: bring in Jacoby Bersett. He's had two consecutive touchdown drives

2586
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 2: and they just got a twenty six yard play on

2587
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:58,480
Speaker 2: the first drive. A first play of this latest drive.

2588
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 2: There's still like eight minutes to go in this game.

2589
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:04,880
Speaker 2: So if the Jets, the Jets blow a twenty seven

2590
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 2: to seven halftime lead at home, this is what I'm

2591
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 2: telling you're telling me, Woody Johnson won't change his mind.

2592
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson, he's filling the stockings at the Solace House

2593
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 1: right now for the kids. He Woody Johnson knows what

2594
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 1: he has at head coach and at general manager. He

2595
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 1: knows that they he's assembled a super team. It's gonna

2596
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 1: be fine for the Jets.

2597
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:29,000
Speaker 2: I watched Hard Knocks. They convince you was a super team.

2598
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 2: The Packers now hold on a second ahead. Panthers had

2599
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 2: tied the game. But we have twenty two seconds to go,

2600
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 2: and the Packers have a fourth down at the Carolina

2601
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 2: fourteen yard nine, and there is the field goal. Yeah,

2602
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 2: we're good.

2603
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:46,880
Speaker 1: We have a Green Bay lead in Carolina, as Bryce

2604
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: Young looks on and says, how why what has happened here? Yeah?

2605
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 2: And as far as the Browns and the Texans, the

2606
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 2: Browns are at the Houston twenty six yard line with

2607
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 2: a fourth down, leading by two scores three forty nine ago.

2608
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:02,720
Speaker 2: That game is now. The Lions have just punted the

2609
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 2: ball to the Vikings, and the Vikings are going to

2610
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 2: be starting deep in their own territory around the eleven

2611
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 2: yard line. We got two point fifty to go in

2612
02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and the Vikings get the ball trailing

2613
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 2: the Lions thirty to twenty four. The Lions have a

2614
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 2: missed extra point.

2615
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear about us in this game?

2616
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 1: A straight up act of disrespect?

2617
02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay?

2618
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:27,560
Speaker 1: The the Cleveland Browns were facing a fourth and seven

2619
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 1: on their side of the field and they have a

2620
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: huge excuse me, they have a sizeable lead, a two

2621
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: score lead here against the Houston Texans, and instead of

2622
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: punting it away, they said, you know what, in Flacco,

2623
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: we trust. We're gonna throw a sideline route to a

2624
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper who has two hundred and sixty five receiving

2625
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 1: yard That is a new Cleveland bounds record. Oh excuse me,

2626
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 1: they were on the Houston side. So they get down

2627
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 1: to the Houston thirty at the twenty six yard line version. Yeah,

2628
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:55,480
Speaker 1: so there you go.

2629
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the Browns. The Browns may not

2630
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 2: lose again this week. Okay, stop, all right, let's uh

2631
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 2: there's a game that just kicked off, by the way,

2632
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 2: huge game for both these teams. Jaguars at the Buccaneers.

2633
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 2: Of course, Baker Mayfield coming off a perfect passer rating

2634
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 2: a week ago. But what has happened to the Jags?

2635
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 2: They have lost three games in a row. And remember

2636
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 2: they seem to have that division all wrapped up. Oh yeah,

2637
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: I do, and all of a sudden, a three game

2638
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 2: losing streak has put their playoff hopes at jeopardy and

2639
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 2: now on the road against a Buccaneers team. If they

2640
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:36,880
Speaker 2: win today, the Buccaneers again find themselves leading that NFC South.

2641
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 2: All right, we got a sideline pass for the Panthers.

2642
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 2: That's a nice pass. It's a good ball. That was

2643
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 2: a good ball by Bryce Young. There's only thirteen seconds ago,

2644
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 2: but they're just trying to get into field goal range.

2645
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 2: Look at this pass. Wow, buddy, we got a ball game.

2646
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, don't count out Carolina against the Green Bay Packers.

2647
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 1: Right now they are playing runers here in in Carolina.

2648
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with with what thirteen seconds left of game?

2649
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:07,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think about this. Carolina has no timeouts remaining.

2650
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they are got down pretty low here.

2651
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 2: Okay, well it's okay. It's thirteen seconds to go. They

2652
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 2: need about twenty yards to have any chance at a

2653
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 2: field goal. Young throws over the middle. It's caught. Can

2654
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 2: they stop?

2655
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 1: Oh? They clock?

2656
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 2: No. I don't think they're gonna have to spike it yet.

2657
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 1: Run three to the f one.

2658
02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 2: Hit that ball off? No, it was zero's. They're gonna

2659
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 2: call the game? Is it over? I think they're gonna

2660
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 2: call the game. I think they're gonna come it over.

2661
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,880
Speaker 2: Thirty three right now, thirty three to thirty. No, they're

2662
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 2: gonna have to they have the lead. Did you get

2663
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 2: the snap off before the zero's on the clock. I

2664
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 2: knew that clock was going to run out, And right

2665
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 2: now it looks like are they reviewing the play. There's

2666
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 2: zero's on the clock. The officials are gathering right, five

2667
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 2: of them. There's five By the way, if a rule

2668
02:08:57,240 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 2: the complete pass. It is in field goal range. But

2669
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:03,160
Speaker 2: he took a big risk by throwing the ball over

2670
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 2: the middle with no timeouts. I'll tell you what normous.

2671
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:08,000
Speaker 2: Watch the clock. Let's check this out.

2672
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 1: They're playing to replay here again, Carolina would have it

2673
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 1: at the Green Bay thirty one yard.

2674
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 2: Line clock on the left.

2675
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 1: Five. They're handing the ball.

2676
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 2: The official everything is, everybody gets set, everybody throws no zeros. Dude,

2677
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 2: do you think it was zeros? Yeah? Well they have

2678
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 2: officially called it. It is a final. Green Bay beats Carolina.

2679
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.

2680
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:30,520
Speaker 2: When he lifted his arm to throw it down, it

2681
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 2: hit zeros. He did not get the ball spiked in time.

2682
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:37,040
Speaker 2: So the Commanders, who excuse me, The Green Bay Packers

2683
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:39,840
Speaker 2: get the victory on the road against the Panthers, keeping

2684
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 2: their playoff hopes alive. Meanwhile, the Commanders now have a

2685
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 2: third and one at the Jets two yard line, ready

2686
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:49,919
Speaker 2: to punch it in and take the lead. Oh my goodness,

2687
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 2: somewhere are from there. It is into the end zone

2688
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 2: and the Commanders are a point away now of taking

2689
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 2: the lead. The Jets have blown a twenty seven to

2690
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 2: seven half time lead.

2691
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 1: Somewhere our Fox Sports radio host and friend Jason Smith

2692
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 1: is just I mean, yeah, he is just hugging a

2693
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 1: throw pill. He's been forever. They are the Jets. I

2694
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:13,640
Speaker 1: mean he is Is he crying? I mean, is he

2695
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 1: desponded with?

2696
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:14,880
Speaker 11: All Right?

2697
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings two minute warning in Minnesota trail the

2698
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 2: Lions thirty to twenty four. They have a first down

2699
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 2: at their own thirty three yard line, so they have

2700
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 2: a long way to go as they hit the two

2701
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 2: minute warning there. Meanwhile, the Texans, they did hold the

2702
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,040
Speaker 2: Browns on so what I'm saying, I'm saying this game.

2703
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Is not quite over yet, all right.

2704
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:39,080
Speaker 2: Texans have the ball at their own seventeen yard line

2705
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 2: with two oh six to go, down two touchdowns. Meanwhile,

2706
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 2: Buccaneers opening drive going right down the field against the

2707
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 2: Jaguars and they are at the nineteen yard line of Jacksonville.

2708
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield a perfect three for three thirty one yards

2709
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 2: to start this game. All right, We're watching the Vikings

2710
02:10:57,640 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 2: right now. Vikings have the ball at their own thirty

2711
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 2: three year cardline. Two minute warning. Nick Mullins has had

2712
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 2: some great throws and he's had some mistakes. Three interceptions

2713
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 2: on the day again, Minnesota, one of those teams that

2714
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 2: comes into today needing a win desperately pass has deflected,

2715
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 2: had the line of scrimmage, could have been an interception that.

2716
02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:21,480
Speaker 1: Looked like Aiden Hutchinson was going inside on a stunt

2717
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 1: and got his hand in a throng lane was able

2718
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 1: to knock that one down. He is a sensational athlete

2719
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 1: at defensive end pass rusher for this Detroit Lions team.

2720
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 1: What a draft pick for them? Yeah, and he was

2721
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:36,440
Speaker 1: responsible for batting that ball down. I'll JJ Watt. So, yeah,

2722
02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions hang in there, and this game is contentious.

2723
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 2: There's no question. Can I go back to the old

2724
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 2: Robert Salas So what thegument was? Robert sala Is, this

2725
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 2: defensive genius, Jacoby Vers said, has come in for Washington

2726
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 2: and led three consecutive touchdown drive.

2727
02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 1: Listen, I am against that Jets defense. He Robert Sola fan,

2728
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: because how could you ever trade away Joe Oh.

2729
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:02,080
Speaker 2: We got a fumble recovered by the lines, though there's

2730
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,959
Speaker 2: a scramble for the ball. It's actually recovered by the vikings.

2731
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 2: But for a huge loss, huge loss there.

2732
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:13,000
Speaker 1: It got very energized in the production booth A second

2733
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,920
Speaker 1: ago as Chris Purfett leaped to his feet watching this.

2734
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Nick Mullens got hit. He fumbled the ball instead of

2735
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 2: just falling on the ball. One line player trying to

2736
02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 2: be a hero to run in the end zone. So

2737
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 2: the Vikings still have life. The Vikings are seven. Nick

2738
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 2: Mons unloads downs for the first down, for the first down.

2739
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:37,520
Speaker 2: Where are they marking the ball? That's a bad mark,

2740
02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:40,680
Speaker 2: that's a bad mo. They give him the first down,

2741
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 2: they give him the first down. That was a bad

2742
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,160
Speaker 2: Mark's fourth and one. That was a bad mark for

2743
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:48,600
Speaker 2: Minnesota podcast for whatever reason, has it as a first

2744
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 2: in ten. Yeah, he had to because he just spiked

2745
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, he would have done that on fourth down. Okay,

2746
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:58,400
Speaker 2: so it was first intent. Jefferson, with two Lions defenders

2747
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:02,520
Speaker 2: draped all over him, comes up with a grab on

2748
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 2: third and twenty seven. Wow what did we just watch?

2749
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:07,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

2750
02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:10,440
Speaker 2: All right, so here's where we are in this game.

2751
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 2: It'll be second and ten for the Vikings, and we

2752
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:18,240
Speaker 2: are at a minute five to go in the fourth.

2753
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:22,200
Speaker 1: Cordina trail by six, tends his football game and they

2754
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 1: are out of time out.

2755
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 2: So Nick Mullins staring at three seconds left on the playoffs.

2756
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 2: So they're at their all forty four yard line right now.

2757
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 2: He's got to get some yards down the field and

2758
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:33,879
Speaker 2: they're gonna.

2759
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:34,440
Speaker 1: Throw the sideline.

2760
02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 2: Another huge game for the Vikings and runs out abounds.

2761
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 1: To stop the clock.

2762
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:44,240
Speaker 2: Geez, fifty eight seconds to go right now, and the

2763
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 2: Vikings are in business now within striking distance of what

2764
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 2: be the touchdown. And again go back to that fumble

2765
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:55,080
Speaker 2: by Mullins and the Lions defensive lineman who tried to

2766
02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:58,400
Speaker 2: pick scoop the ball instead of just falling on the

2767
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:00,320
Speaker 2: ball to in the game.

2768
02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 1: You gotta understand situational football. So now the Vikings they're

2769
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:09,240
Speaker 1: deep in Lions territory again, thirty to twenty four. Lions

2770
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 1: have to lead fifty eight seconds left yard line.

2771
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 2: They're at the thirty yard line, first down right now,

2772
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:17,720
Speaker 2: Mullins is back to pass again. Man if I got Jefferson,

2773
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm going for He's going the end zone. It's interception,

2774
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:21,880
Speaker 2: septed inner super.

2775
02:14:21,600 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 1: Better get down, buddy, Yeah, there he goes. He lays

2776
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 1: down on the ground and so that game is over.

2777
02:14:27,120 --> 02:14:28,920
Speaker 1: The Lions will kneel this one.

2778
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:32,120
Speaker 2: As that ball tip that thing flutters geez, on that

2779
02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:35,440
Speaker 2: may happen on that throw by Mullins over four hundred

2780
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:38,200
Speaker 2: yards passing, but it will not be enough. The Lions

2781
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:41,480
Speaker 2: have clinched the NFC North title.

2782
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:44,800
Speaker 1: Listen, I don't mind the play call. You go for Jefferson.

2783
02:14:45,080 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 1: He is your best option in that situation. But a

2784
02:14:47,800 --> 02:14:52,440
Speaker 1: not that throw wasn't great and uh and four turnovers

2785
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 1: in a tight game. That will do it for the Vikings.

2786
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,760
Speaker 1: Here today, all right, we got much more coming up.

2787
02:14:57,880 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 1: Keep it here.

2788
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:01,840
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Minnesota. Nowt thirty

2789
02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:02,880
Speaker 2: yards from the end zone.

2790
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:06,400
Speaker 1: They've got to have down six fifty eight seconds to go.

2791
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 1: Clock will start on the snaff. Mullins takes the shotgun. Snap,

2792
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:10,440
Speaker 1: he's back.

2793
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 2: Mullins looking pressure comes step it up, looking throwing deep

2794
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 2: down field.

2795
02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:17,640
Speaker 1: It is picked up by the Lions intercept it. Come

2796
02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:18,600
Speaker 1: it back the other way.

2797
02:15:19,160 --> 02:15:20,520
Speaker 2: He fought to Malafanwu.

2798
02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 12: This is gonna be over Lions.

2799
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:23,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna win it.

2800
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:26,920
Speaker 1: C Lions for bringing the NFC North title back to Detroit.

2801
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 2: That's ninety seven to one. That taken Lions Radio network.

2802
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 2: You heard it all right there. Lions survive, meet the

2803
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:38,600
Speaker 2: Vikings and they move on. They'll be in the postseason

2804
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:43,840
Speaker 2: as NFC North champions. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2805
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:47,000
Speaker 2: We're live from the tire rack dot Com studios Steve

2806
02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 2: Hartman and Rich Ornberger keeping an update on everything. So

2807
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:55,280
Speaker 2: the Jets on fourth and twenty punted, So the Commanders

2808
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:57,320
Speaker 2: have the ball back, and they have a third and

2809
02:15:57,400 --> 02:16:01,600
Speaker 2: eleven from their own twenty four yard line, and the

2810
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 2: Jets are going to get the ball back, and again

2811
02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:06,560
Speaker 2: they're down by one. This is a Jets team that

2812
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:10,560
Speaker 2: was leading at halftime twenty seven to seven, and the

2813
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:14,360
Speaker 2: Commanders bench Sam Howel. They bring in Jacobi Brissett and

2814
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:17,360
Speaker 2: he leads them on three consecutive scoring drives to take

2815
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 2: a twenty eight to twenty seven light. But the Jets

2816
02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:23,919
Speaker 2: are going to get the ball back if the Commanders

2817
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:26,440
Speaker 2: don't get a first down here again just under two

2818
02:16:26,480 --> 02:16:28,760
Speaker 2: minutes to go. Meanwhile, the Buccaneers win an early three

2819
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:32,560
Speaker 2: to alten lead, taking on the Jaguars and getting ready

2820
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:34,440
Speaker 2: for a couple of games to kick off. We talked

2821
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:37,640
Speaker 2: to Mark Sanchez earlier. Cardinals of the Bears. Not much

2822
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 2: of a matchup from a team standpoint, but an interesting

2823
02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 2: matchup of quarterbacks with Kyler Murray and Justin fields, and

2824
02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:46,680
Speaker 2: then of course also we get ready for the Cowboys

2825
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins. Rich and I are on different sides.

2826
02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:51,880
Speaker 2: He's going the easy route. Dolphins are a point and

2827
02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:53,720
Speaker 2: a half favorite. He's going with the Dolphins at home,

2828
02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:56,240
Speaker 2: which makes all the sense in the world. I'm taking

2829
02:16:56,760 --> 02:16:59,000
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. We went in Miami and we put a

2830
02:16:59,040 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 2: pizza on it.

2831
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this is a big deal, guys, Yes it is.

2832
02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 1: But the bigger deal is when the Browns face the

2833
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:10,240
Speaker 1: Ravens in the AFC Championship Game and Joe Flacco gets

2834
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:13,119
Speaker 1: this win, advancing the Cleveland Browns to their only ever

2835
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:17,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl visit, two things will be accomplished. A. He's

2836
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 1: gonna poke John Harbaugh the EY saying you should have

2837
02:17:19,959 --> 02:17:23,480
Speaker 1: never replaced me with Lamar Jackson. B he's going to

2838
02:17:23,640 --> 02:17:28,760
Speaker 1: avenge this Cleveland Cities losing the Browns the first time

2839
02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:32,840
Speaker 1: around to the Baltimore to the Baltimore Ravens when Art

2840
02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:35,560
Speaker 1: Modell got the Mayflower trucks out.

2841
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:37,040
Speaker 2: In the middle of the night. Maybe to be a

2842
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:39,360
Speaker 2: plenty good move for him, because then they won two

2843
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:41,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowls as the Ravens, and one of them was

2844
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:42,959
Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco.

2845
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it was let me tell you something. I mean,

2846
02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:49,880
Speaker 1: if there is a better storyline that could come to

2847
02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:53,360
Speaker 1: fruition in the NFL this NFL postseason, you name it.

2848
02:17:53,560 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay, how are the Jets coming back to win this game?

2849
02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:58,879
Speaker 2: There's a better storyline. Joe Flacco, by the way, finished

2850
02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:01,160
Speaker 2: twenty seven to forty two, three hundred and sixty eight yards,

2851
02:18:01,160 --> 02:18:03,520
Speaker 2: three touchdowns. He threw a couple of picks in is

2852
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 2: a final Browns beat that Texas thirty six to twenty two.

2853
02:18:06,640 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 2: All right, the Jets have the ball and the clock

2854
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:11,280
Speaker 2: is running with one twenty to go. They're at their

2855
02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:14,400
Speaker 2: own forty yard line, and that play is going to

2856
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:17,600
Speaker 2: go for a loss short of a first down, and

2857
02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:20,000
Speaker 2: the clock just continues to run. The Jets have one

2858
02:18:20,320 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 2: timeout remaining. They blew a twenty seven to seven, a

2859
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:26,280
Speaker 2: halftime lead, the Commander's lead twenty to twenty seven, and

2860
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:29,160
Speaker 2: one of the Commander's players is on his hands and

2861
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:32,120
Speaker 2: knees hurt, and that's a break for the Jets, so

2862
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:35,800
Speaker 2: the clock will stop. The Commanders have three timeouts left.

2863
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:39,200
Speaker 2: By the way, a stun Robert Sala, knowing that he

2864
02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:41,400
Speaker 2: has job security, is that for life for just as

2865
02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:42,880
Speaker 2: long as Aaron Rodgers is the court.

2866
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:46,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if the Jets were smart, they

2867
02:18:46,280 --> 02:18:50,240
Speaker 1: sign him to a lifetime contract. But listen, what Robert

2868
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 1: Sala has proven over the course of this seasons proven

2869
02:18:54,440 --> 02:18:58,480
Speaker 1: is that he has maintained a phenomenal relationship with Aaron

2870
02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:00,879
Speaker 1: Rodgers appareently and that is the reason why he's keeping

2871
02:19:00,959 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: his jump. Because if you look at what the Jets

2872
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 1: have done this season and you really try to imagine

2873
02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 1: a way or a reason why the general manager, manager

2874
02:19:11,680 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 1: and the head coach should retain their positions, you just

2875
02:19:14,920 --> 02:19:18,560
Speaker 1: have to you have to swallow hard and remember this,

2876
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:23,400
Speaker 1: this whole team, this whole experience we went through, was

2877
02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:26,160
Speaker 1: all because we went all in on Aaron Rodgers, and

2878
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:28,120
Speaker 1: we have another year left on the deal, and he

2879
02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 1: says that he's happy to come back and play with it.

2880
02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:32,480
Speaker 2: All right, thirty one for the Jets. They're gonna run

2881
02:19:32,560 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 2: the ball and they're gonna get the first down. They're

2882
02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:39,080
Speaker 2: still in their own territory. The clock is running. They

2883
02:19:39,160 --> 02:19:42,360
Speaker 2: have just the one time out remaining fifty six fifty five.

2884
02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 2: They're trying to line up right now, a lot of

2885
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,280
Speaker 2: time coming off the clock. They're finally gonna get a

2886
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:51,119
Speaker 2: snap off at about Simeon is that quarterback? Forty five

2887
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:54,280
Speaker 2: forty four, They finally get a playoff. They still need

2888
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:56,880
Speaker 2: at least ten yards. They got Greg the leg zerline

2889
02:19:57,080 --> 02:19:59,039
Speaker 2: and they get yardage up the middle.

2890
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:04,080
Speaker 1: Just keep it to briest Hall, goodness gracious. Thirty three,

2891
02:20:04,280 --> 02:20:07,200
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty one. The clock is ticking.

2892
02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:09,600
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera is on the sideline for the commanders. His

2893
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:11,440
Speaker 2: mouth agape, what's going on here?

2894
02:20:11,560 --> 02:20:11,880
Speaker 1: All right?

2895
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:15,800
Speaker 2: Twenty four three? Team, you're probably gonna run at least

2896
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:18,680
Speaker 2: one more play. They need a quick almost intercepted that

2897
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:21,360
Speaker 2: is incomplete. Wow, Simmy, and what are you doing?

2898
02:20:22,040 --> 02:20:22,360
Speaker 1: All right?

2899
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:26,520
Speaker 2: So nineteen seconds the clock stops on the incomplete pass.

2900
02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:29,480
Speaker 2: Here the Jets trailing twenty eight to twenty seven, after

2901
02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:33,880
Speaker 2: leading twenty seven to seven at that spirited comeback, after

2902
02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 2: leading twenty seven to seven at that Yeah, I mean,

2903
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:39,600
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable that they blew this game again. Sam, how

2904
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:43,800
Speaker 2: got bitching? Jacoby said, of all people got dusted up

2905
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 2: by the Commanders of lead three consecutive touchdown drives to

2906
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:48,920
Speaker 2: take the lead. All right, here we go second and

2907
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 2: ten right now, balls at the thirty nine yard line.

2908
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:53,680
Speaker 2: We're looking at about a fifty six yard field goal

2909
02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:56,600
Speaker 2: right now, simmy and looking for some kind of yard Joe,

2910
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 2: keep the ball run up the middle. He gets the

2911
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:01,160
Speaker 2: ball down to the thirty six. At this point, they're

2912
02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:05,520
Speaker 2: gonna let the clock run. No, did they call a

2913
02:21:05,640 --> 02:21:06,160
Speaker 2: time out?

2914
02:21:06,320 --> 02:21:07,440
Speaker 1: Why would you do that?

2915
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:11,800
Speaker 2: Well, the clock has stopped. I'm not quite sure. Why

2916
02:21:11,959 --> 02:21:16,039
Speaker 2: is the clock stopped? So they had one, so they

2917
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:18,040
Speaker 2: did call a time out. All right, Well, now what

2918
02:21:18,080 --> 02:21:20,199
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? You can't run a play twelve

2919
02:21:20,240 --> 02:21:21,360
Speaker 2: seconds left on the clock.

2920
02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the most you could do here is tell

2921
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:27,360
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon, Hey, listen, We're gonna throw one sideline route

2922
02:21:27,360 --> 02:21:28,720
Speaker 1: to get us a little bit closer?

2923
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:30,480
Speaker 12: Is it?

2924
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 2: If it isn't open, you throw it ten stories above

2925
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:38,080
Speaker 2: the head of your receipts. I would not risk anything here, seven,

2926
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:41,480
Speaker 2: trust me in this situation. But what if he throws

2927
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:44,280
Speaker 2: a sideline pass and the guy goes down before the

2928
02:21:44,400 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 2: clock will run out? They're gonna run a play here?

2929
02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:47,120
Speaker 5: Wow?

2930
02:21:47,320 --> 02:21:49,600
Speaker 1: And to be honest, in seven, I approve of this.

2931
02:21:49,879 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 1: I hope they send all go right.

2932
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Look into the sideline and he throws it away.

2933
02:21:56,600 --> 02:21:57,120
Speaker 4: What I told you?

2934
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 2: That's fourth and that route isn't open. You row it

2935
02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:02,400
Speaker 2: to a coach, and that's exactly what he did. All right,

2936
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:05,480
Speaker 2: So Zeroline is gonna come on, Greg the Leg, try

2937
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:07,480
Speaker 2: to win this game for the Jets after blowing a

2938
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:09,199
Speaker 2: twenty point halftime lead.

2939
02:22:10,040 --> 02:22:12,119
Speaker 1: They are gonna try to savage this one.

2940
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:14,240
Speaker 2: And showing the mess out of his gum with that

2941
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:16,600
Speaker 2: very dark beard. Does he dye the beard? I don't know.

2942
02:22:17,160 --> 02:22:18,640
Speaker 1: There's no hair on the top of his head. It's

2943
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:19,040
Speaker 1: hard to tell.

2944
02:22:19,160 --> 02:22:21,280
Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, Zeroline. It looks like it's

2945
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna be a fifty four yard field goal. He can

2946
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:27,800
Speaker 2: make it that He's got the leg. That's never a

2947
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,880
Speaker 2: question about Zerolein's legs, literally his nickname. Here we go

2948
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:33,680
Speaker 2: Greg the Leg. As we go for the field goal

2949
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:36,720
Speaker 2: to win the game. The kick is up and it is.

2950
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:43,080
Speaker 11: They come all the way back from a twenty seven

2951
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:48,120
Speaker 11: to seven lead thee Rogers.

2952
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:50,560
Speaker 2: She showed Aaron Rodgers on the field.

2953
02:22:50,600 --> 02:22:55,039
Speaker 1: He goes, I told you, Sala sala, dude.

2954
02:22:56,320 --> 02:22:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I that was uncredible.

2955
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:00,800
Speaker 9: That is a bit.

2956
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Greg's got the leg, but man,

2957
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:06,480
Speaker 2: that is whatch That's a fifty five yard field goal

2958
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:06,920
Speaker 2: to win it.

2959
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:09,440
Speaker 4: Do you think that exercises the demons of the butt fumble?

2960
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:09,800
Speaker 4: Right there?

2961
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:11,200
Speaker 2: No one, that's it.

2962
02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 1: That's it.

2963
02:23:11,879 --> 02:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Now you can watch the stink of the butt fumble

2964
02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:15,720
Speaker 2: off of You can ask you this. When we have

2965
02:23:15,959 --> 02:23:17,800
Speaker 2: Sanchez on the show, do you bring up the butt

2966
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:19,920
Speaker 2: fumble with him before some point there? At some point?

2967
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,720
Speaker 1: No, never, at some point we will, but I think

2968
02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:24,920
Speaker 1: we need to give him a little little more distance.

2969
02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he also led the Jets to back to back

2970
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:29,120
Speaker 2: AFC championship. We can talk to him about. All right,

2971
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:32,480
Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now. As Monsi's

2972
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:35,480
Speaker 2: been watching everything we've been watching, It's been sort of

2973
02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:36,240
Speaker 2: a crazy day.

2974
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:39,400
Speaker 9: I mean, the emotions that the fans in New York

2975
02:23:39,560 --> 02:23:42,000
Speaker 9: just went through. How unfair, Like just.

2976
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:47,160
Speaker 10: Pure joy for a whole first half to absolute misery

2977
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:48,400
Speaker 10: up until the end.

2978
02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:52,959
Speaker 9: Like unbelievable game. Jet's get it thirty to twenty eight,

2979
02:23:53,120 --> 02:23:54,000
Speaker 9: Thank you, Zerline.

2980
02:23:54,040 --> 02:23:57,120
Speaker 10: I mean, what a game, Fellas we do have the

2981
02:23:57,320 --> 02:24:00,480
Speaker 10: afternoon or evening games, depending on where you're watching, they've

2982
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:04,200
Speaker 10: already started. The Buccaneers have the early lead against the Jaihuaraz.

2983
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:06,560
Speaker 10: It's a field goal, so plenty of game left three zero.

2984
02:24:06,760 --> 02:24:09,520
Speaker 10: They're about to start the second quarter. The Cardinals, the Bears,

2985
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:12,640
Speaker 10: the Cowboys, the Dolphins. They're all scoreless early in the

2986
02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:15,920
Speaker 10: first Let's wrap up what has happened, what is trending

2987
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:19,240
Speaker 10: the Lions because they are the NFC North champions.

2988
02:24:19,320 --> 02:24:20,760
Speaker 9: Chris Purfec congratulations.

2989
02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:25,240
Speaker 10: I mean two years ago, this team was three thirteen

2990
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:27,800
Speaker 10: and one just two years ago.

2991
02:24:28,160 --> 02:24:29,879
Speaker 9: What a change they survived.

2992
02:24:29,959 --> 02:24:32,520
Speaker 10: They beat the Vikings thirty to twenty four and proved

2993
02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:33,280
Speaker 10: to eleven and four.

2994
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:35,440
Speaker 9: The Vikings fall to seven and eight.

2995
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:38,160
Speaker 10: Jared Goff two hundred and fifty seven yards and one

2996
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:41,640
Speaker 10: touchdown in the air. Junior gives two rushing touchdowns in

2997
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:44,680
Speaker 10: the victory. I mean Nick Mullins threw for four hundred

2998
02:24:44,720 --> 02:24:48,080
Speaker 10: and eleven yards from Minnesota two touchdowns. He also had

2999
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:50,800
Speaker 10: four interceptions and it went down to the wire, but

3000
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:53,600
Speaker 10: the Packers held on and edged the Panthers thirty three

3001
02:24:53,720 --> 02:24:54,320
Speaker 10: to thirty.

3002
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:56,320
Speaker 9: Panthers just didn't have enough time.

3003
02:24:56,640 --> 02:24:59,040
Speaker 10: Aaron Jones twenty one carries for one hundred and twenty

3004
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:01,760
Speaker 10: seven yards. The Seahawks had a slow start, but they

3005
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:05,119
Speaker 10: beat the Titans twenty to seventeen. Gino Smith two hundred

3006
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:07,720
Speaker 10: and twenty seven yards and two touchdowns. The Falcons they

3007
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:10,680
Speaker 10: defeated the Colts twenty nine to ten, Taylor Heineke with

3008
02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:12,560
Speaker 10: two hundred and twenty nine yards in the air and

3009
02:25:12,760 --> 02:25:16,000
Speaker 10: one touchdown, and the Browns they beat the Texans.

3010
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 9: Thirty six to twenty two. Let's talk about Joe Blaco

3011
02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:19,760
Speaker 9: one more time because I love rich.

3012
02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:24,200
Speaker 10: For Joe Flaco, I mean three hundred and sixty eight yards,

3013
02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:25,600
Speaker 10: three touchdowns in the air.

3014
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:27,480
Speaker 9: He did have two interceptions, but it doesn't matter.

3015
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:30,240
Speaker 10: He's thrown for three hundred or more yards in three

3016
02:25:30,320 --> 02:25:31,560
Speaker 10: straight games for the first.

3017
02:25:31,360 --> 02:25:34,040
Speaker 9: Time in his career. But it was a two man show.

3018
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:37,800
Speaker 10: Amari Cooper eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty five yards,

3019
02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:40,960
Speaker 10: two touchdowns. That's the most single game receiving yards in

3020
02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:44,560
Speaker 10: Browns franchise history. He also joins Terrell Owens as the

3021
02:25:44,640 --> 02:25:48,560
Speaker 10: only wide receivers with two hundred with two hundred yard receiving.

3022
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:50,720
Speaker 9: Games for three different franchises.

3023
02:25:50,840 --> 02:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco man hedge, Joe Flacco, Oh got him in

3024
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:56,840
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Hey on black Over if he

3025
02:25:56,879 --> 02:25:59,480
Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl Super Bowl MVP, how do you

3026
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:05,720
Speaker 1: not eighty one for one hundred thirty two fifty three

3027
02:26:05,800 --> 02:26:08,320
Speaker 1: yards and eight touchdowns and three wins over the last

3028
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:08,800
Speaker 1: three weeks.

3029
02:26:08,879 --> 02:26:11,720
Speaker 9: Yeah know, like that's Joe Flacco rush tagle.

3030
02:26:11,800 --> 02:26:14,000
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this. Do you do

3031
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,680
Speaker 2: you guys? Do you think Eli Manning's a Hall of Famer?

3032
02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3033
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Eli Manning won two Super Bowls, both against

3034
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:26,040
Speaker 2: the Patriots. In no other season did he even win

3035
02:26:26,120 --> 02:26:28,840
Speaker 2: a single playoff game. So he had two runs. Steve

3036
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:29,560
Speaker 2: never all pro?

3037
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:33,200
Speaker 1: You ever any Can you write the history of the

3038
02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:37,959
Speaker 1: NFL without Joel without Eli Mannings and his two super

3039
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:41,039
Speaker 1: Bowl victories over the evil Empire of the New England Patriots.

3040
02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:45,040
Speaker 1: Can you write the history of the NFL without Jim Plunkett?

3041
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Can you write the history of the NFL along two

3042
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:54,320
Speaker 1: time super Bowl winner, two time Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco?

3043
02:26:54,920 --> 02:26:57,240
Speaker 9: You don't know if that's the yeah, but yes, yes.

3044
02:26:57,400 --> 02:27:00,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people have said it's the peoples quarterback.

3045
02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying that a lot of people.

3046
02:27:03,240 --> 02:27:06,360
Speaker 2: First of all, I since I know just about every

3047
02:27:06,400 --> 02:27:09,200
Speaker 2: name in NFL history, I can't write it without every name,

3048
02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:13,520
Speaker 2: and I put the whole NFL Rich Ornberger, Paul of Faith.

3049
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:18,320
Speaker 1: I haven't made a ballot yet I've been retired for longer.

3050
02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:20,800
Speaker 2: Now you're led, I'm eligible.

3051
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've been elible for a few years for you.

3052
02:27:23,320 --> 02:27:25,560
Speaker 2: Rich all right, I want to do a little update here,

3053
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,840
Speaker 2: thank you, Moncie. On the standings, here's where we are

3054
02:27:29,080 --> 02:27:32,360
Speaker 2: up to date standings. Starting in the AFC right now

3055
02:27:32,640 --> 02:27:35,400
Speaker 2: as of the moment, the Ravens are the one seed, Dolphins,

3056
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:40,240
Speaker 2: two Chiefs, three Jaguars four. So here's your wild cards.

3057
02:27:40,280 --> 02:27:42,959
Speaker 2: You got Cleveland at ten and five. They're the five seed.

3058
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:46,119
Speaker 2: The Bills are the sixth seed at nine and six,

3059
02:27:47,080 --> 02:27:51,320
Speaker 2: and you have the Colts, Texans, Steelers, and Bengals all

3060
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:55,520
Speaker 2: at eight and seven. And right now, of those four teams,

3061
02:27:55,640 --> 02:28:00,000
Speaker 2: it's the Colts who have the seventh and final playoff

3062
02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:03,520
Speaker 2: spot in the af seed. Now on the NFC side,

3063
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:06,400
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers of the one seed Lions, two

3064
02:28:06,520 --> 02:28:11,040
Speaker 2: seed Cowboys, three seed Buccaneers are the four seed Eagles

3065
02:28:11,080 --> 02:28:14,959
Speaker 2: at five. The Rams and Seahawks are the six seven,

3066
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:18,279
Speaker 2: both at eight and seven, and then you have the Vikings,

3067
02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:21,520
Speaker 2: the Falcons, the Packers and the Saints all at seven

3068
02:28:21,560 --> 02:28:21,880
Speaker 2: and eight.

3069
02:28:22,400 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 1: Still live, dude, Still live. I love the NFL this

3070
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 1: year and nothing guess what we're living in the upside down,

3071
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:33,800
Speaker 1: everything that used to make sense. Tear up the script,

3072
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:37,920
Speaker 1: throw it away. The Lions are a division winner this year.

3073
02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:42,960
Speaker 1: The the Joe Flacco Cleveland Browns are going to be

3074
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:45,440
Speaker 1: a two seed or dare I say a one seed

3075
02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:49,879
Speaker 1: in the AFC. Heading into the postseason, cats and dogs

3076
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:54,520
Speaker 1: are living together, humans as pets, mass hysteria. This is

3077
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:57,000
Speaker 1: the best NFL has ever done in.

3078
02:28:57,120 --> 02:28:59,880
Speaker 2: A battle of quarterbacks. Take a number one overall in there,

3079
02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:03,200
Speaker 2: it's all Baker Mayfield. The Buccaneers lead the Jags ten

3080
02:29:03,240 --> 02:29:08,119
Speaker 2: to nothing. Jags won possession ended with the Trevor Lawrence interception.

3081
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:10,640
Speaker 2: The wheels are coming off the Jaguars.

3082
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:12,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Wick right now, they.

3083
02:29:12,480 --> 02:29:15,920
Speaker 2: Were sitting at eight and three, they lose. Today, they're

3084
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:18,520
Speaker 2: eight and seven and in a three way tie for

3085
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:21,240
Speaker 2: a division lead with the Texans and the Colts.

3086
02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 1: That's where they would be. I look at the Jacksonville

3087
02:29:24,959 --> 02:29:29,680
Speaker 1: Jaguars as a team that has truly an elite level quarterback,

3088
02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:33,920
Speaker 1: a playmaker, and Trevor Lawrence and an elite coach. But

3089
02:29:34,600 --> 02:29:38,640
Speaker 1: they're they're not looking that way. Now, Have we spoken

3090
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:42,280
Speaker 1: too soon? Is Trevor Lawrence all that we've built him

3091
02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:45,560
Speaker 1: up to be over the years, because look, Doug Peterson,

3092
02:29:46,240 --> 02:29:46,560
Speaker 1: does he.

3093
02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Have a lot to prove.

3094
02:29:47,720 --> 02:29:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I would argue he's proven a lot. He

3095
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:52,600
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with a backup quarterback in Nick Foles.

3096
02:29:53,240 --> 02:29:55,880
Speaker 1: He's made Carson Wentz look better than he's ever looked

3097
02:29:55,959 --> 02:29:59,040
Speaker 1: in his entire career as a football player. I mean,

3098
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:02,680
Speaker 1: if you really look back and review the history in Philadelphia,

3099
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he built that program up, he and Howie

3100
02:30:05,560 --> 02:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Roseman from nothing. It's interesting. Man like Trevor Lawrence. He

3101
02:30:11,879 --> 02:30:14,880
Speaker 1: needs to start being what Trevor Lawrence was promised to

3102
02:30:14,959 --> 02:30:17,320
Speaker 1: be here at some point because if you look at

3103
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:21,160
Speaker 1: the Rams and the special season they're having, and everybody

3104
02:30:21,280 --> 02:30:23,680
Speaker 1: was counting them out to start the year. You know,

3105
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:27,200
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay, I mean, they're making good

3106
02:30:27,280 --> 02:30:27,840
Speaker 1: on the promise.

3107
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Lay at what they do.

3108
02:30:29,480 --> 02:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely So, I think Doug Peterson is an answer to

3109
02:30:33,360 --> 02:30:37,440
Speaker 1: the question of who should replace the disaster of a

3110
02:30:37,480 --> 02:30:40,720
Speaker 1: situation they had with Urban Meyer. But is Trevor Lawrence

3111
02:30:40,840 --> 02:30:42,480
Speaker 1: that guy? Is he that dude?

3112
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Well, here's the good news for the Jaguars. Let's say

3113
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:48,840
Speaker 2: they lose today in Tampa and again, they would drop

3114
02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:51,240
Speaker 2: into a tie with Indianapolis and Houston all at eight

3115
02:30:51,320 --> 02:30:58,600
Speaker 2: and seven. They host the Panthers next week, Jacksonville host them, Yeah, okay,

3116
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:01,440
Speaker 2: and then your final game is on the road against

3117
02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:06,000
Speaker 2: the Titans. Yeah, I mean, I mean you should win

3118
02:31:06,120 --> 02:31:09,360
Speaker 2: those two games. Sounds like an on ramp less less

3119
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:12,039
Speaker 2: of a less of a two games.

3120
02:31:12,040 --> 02:31:14,920
Speaker 1: It's not a look. If they don't win these last

3121
02:31:14,959 --> 02:31:17,560
Speaker 1: two games and they have a little bit of momentum

3122
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:20,240
Speaker 1: building leading into the postseason.

3123
02:31:20,480 --> 02:31:22,640
Speaker 2: Here's here's the here's the bad news. Even if they

3124
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:26,120
Speaker 2: limp into the postseason, Unfortunately for them, they will not

3125
02:31:26,240 --> 02:31:30,520
Speaker 2: be playing a Brandon Stally coach team. You remember last

3126
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:32,400
Speaker 2: year what Lawrence drew fourth picks in the first half.

3127
02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was awful in the first half, and then

3128
02:31:34,440 --> 02:31:36,520
Speaker 1: the second half happened. Well, he came all the way

3129
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:38,480
Speaker 1: back and he won that game with that offense. Credit

3130
02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:42,000
Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrence there, and they gave the Chiefs all

3131
02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:43,840
Speaker 1: they could handle on the divisional round.

3132
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Now they did.

3133
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:48,520
Speaker 1: There's no question that in the postseason, at least for

3134
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:53,960
Speaker 1: you could argue six quarters Trevor Lawrence played toward his billing.

3135
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:59,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, it just seems Jacksonville they've got. If

3136
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:02,160
Speaker 1: you have as special of a quarterback and as special

3137
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:05,720
Speaker 1: of a coach as they have in Doug Peterson, it

3138
02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:07,880
Speaker 1: just feels like the picture should look a little bit

3139
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:10,400
Speaker 1: clear right now, and the future still looks cloudy.

3140
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:12,800
Speaker 2: You know one thing I have to laugh about for years.

3141
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:16,880
Speaker 2: You remember how the NBA own Christmas Day, and then

3142
02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:21,040
Speaker 2: last year the NFL said no, and they have three

3143
02:32:21,080 --> 02:32:25,640
Speaker 2: games tomorrow Raiders, Chiefs, Giants, Eagles, Ravens.

3144
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers.

3145
02:32:26,400 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, three games on Christmas Day Monday, which just literally

3146
02:32:30,920 --> 02:32:35,920
Speaker 2: erases NBA's Christmas domination again if they did it last year,

3147
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:38,240
Speaker 2: They're like, no, NBA, wait here, we give you no

3148
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:41,600
Speaker 2: days last year? Last year? Did Christmas fall on a Sunday?

3149
02:32:41,959 --> 02:32:45,000
Speaker 2: It didn't. Was it a Sunday? I forget when Chrismember

3150
02:32:45,080 --> 02:32:47,200
Speaker 2: last year looked that up. Bally, Well, this is a Monday,

3151
02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:49,240
Speaker 2: and wipe them out.

3152
02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:52,040
Speaker 1: This is the big test, though, So next year Christmas

3153
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:53,560
Speaker 1: falls on a Wednesday.

3154
02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:54,600
Speaker 2: This is done.

3155
02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:58,480
Speaker 1: This is really so if Christmas falls on a Wednesday

3156
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:01,960
Speaker 1: next season, do if they schedule multiple games to go

3157
02:33:02,040 --> 02:33:05,480
Speaker 1: against the NBA again, Well, they leave the bingos space

3158
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 1: open for the NBA to recapital.

3159
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:10,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, if it's Week sixteen, there's

3160
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:12,560
Speaker 2: still got two more weeks after this. Would you want

3161
02:33:12,560 --> 02:33:15,600
Speaker 2: a Wednesday game? If you're a team in contention, would

3162
02:33:15,640 --> 02:33:19,600
Speaker 2: you want a Wednesday game in Week sixteen? I didn't

3163
02:33:19,640 --> 02:33:23,000
Speaker 2: wear contention for a playoffs. I'm me personally, no, if

3164
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm a coach, if I'm a player.

3165
02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:26,680
Speaker 4: The NFL did say this week that if Christmas falls

3166
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:28,960
Speaker 4: on a Tuesday or Wednesday, they would not schedule games.

3167
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:31,120
Speaker 4: But also, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I

3168
02:33:31,160 --> 02:33:32,000
Speaker 4: would love to sell you.

3169
02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, this is what I'm saying, Like, how could

3170
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:36,120
Speaker 2: they okay own whatever night they want to?

3171
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:38,520
Speaker 1: So even if you want to call it week seventeen

3172
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:40,039
Speaker 1: next year, I mean, if it falls to the same

3173
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:43,160
Speaker 1: way right Week seventeen game, you just move up that

3174
02:33:43,280 --> 02:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Thursday night football game. You make sure you schedule a

3175
02:33:45,720 --> 02:33:48,800
Speaker 1: great one. You move up that Thursday night schedules football

3176
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:49,640
Speaker 1: game you put on Wednesday.

3177
02:33:49,720 --> 02:33:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the NFL schedule makers could absolutely find a way

3178
02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:53,240
Speaker 4: to make sure that any team do it on a

3179
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:55,000
Speaker 4: Tuesday or Wednesday would have a buye or something like that.

3180
02:33:55,040 --> 02:33:58,000
Speaker 2: They don't care about the welfare of the players Tominate.

3181
02:33:58,240 --> 02:34:00,640
Speaker 8: I feel like this started with them just having coincidental

3182
02:34:00,680 --> 02:34:06,320
Speaker 8: and how much fell on a weekends or round. They

3183
02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:09,080
Speaker 8: they wiped out the NBA leg Now that they've seen

3184
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:11,440
Speaker 8: the numbers, now they see how much they've dominated, They're like,

3185
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:12,680
Speaker 8: all right, this is our house now.

3186
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:14,200
Speaker 4: You know what's funny is Chris and I were looking

3187
02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:17,240
Speaker 4: at it earlier and the NBA s comes tomorrow. Isn't bad? No,

3188
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:19,280
Speaker 4: there's lots always game.

3189
02:34:19,360 --> 02:34:23,760
Speaker 1: You got Lebron, Lebron, no Embeid, but like Lakers Celtics,

3190
02:34:23,800 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 1: you have Bucks.

3191
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:28,320
Speaker 4: And Bucks, Nicks, Warriors, Nuggets. Yeah, oh it's always Lakers.

3192
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:29,440
Speaker 4: They will be obliterated.

3193
02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:31,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, they'll they're gonna they'll get completely dark. Are

3194
02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:33,840
Speaker 1: you gonna turn off your Eagles game to watch the

3195
02:34:33,959 --> 02:34:34,600
Speaker 1: NBA tomorrow?

3196
02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:36,720
Speaker 4: You couldn't pay me to watch basketball?

3197
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:42,520
Speaker 2: All right, guys, look, Johnnie and Jayalen Brunton, we'll wrap

3198
02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:45,160
Speaker 2: this thing up here as we still have plenty of

3199
02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:48,039
Speaker 2: action around the NFL. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

3200
02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:51,720
Speaker 1: There's the snap hole kick on its way.

3201
02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:53,000
Speaker 9: It's got the leg.

3202
02:34:54,080 --> 02:34:54,640
Speaker 1: It's good.

3203
02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:59,840
Speaker 6: From fifty four, Greg Zerlin gives the Jets a thirty

3204
02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:02,960
Speaker 6: to twenty eight lead with only five seconds to go.

3205
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:12,520
Speaker 2: That was big one hundred Commanders Radio network. I figured

3206
02:35:13,320 --> 02:35:14,879
Speaker 2: that wasn't exactly exciting.

3207
02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:18,440
Speaker 1: It was a little subdude. Let's hear now from the

3208
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Jets side of that same field goal by Greg, the

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Speaker 1: legs are line to come all the way back from

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Speaker 1: a twenty seven to seven lead to win the game.

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Speaker 2: At the buzzer fifty four yards away.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee will snap there. It is to placement down, it's away,

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Speaker 1: it's got the distance.

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Speaker 12: It is gone.

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Speaker 1: Gregs Zarlock does it five seconds to go.

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Speaker 2: Slightly different, just slightly different call on that same kick

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Speaker 2: live from the tire Rack dot com studios. All right,

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02:36:13,840 --> 02:36:16,520
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of distractions today. You gotta have it, amitt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a crazy day.

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02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:21,440
Speaker 2: Today Ausi Monsey doing a brilliant job as he always does,

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02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:24,959
Speaker 2: plus bringing gifts for everybody. She's off the charts. Bo's

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02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:27,320
Speaker 2: ready for his big game tomorrow with his Eagles trying

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02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:30,119
Speaker 2: to end their three game losing streak. And then there's Chris.

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02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:32,879
Speaker 2: This has gone through a lot. It's been a day

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02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:38,600
Speaker 2: of celebration the Lions clinching the NFC North Division today.

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02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:42,400
Speaker 2: It's been a crazy day. I mean, look at we

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02:36:42,520 --> 02:36:44,720
Speaker 2: have situations. You have to understand how this works here

3235
02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:47,280
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio, so we all seem to have

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02:36:47,400 --> 02:36:50,880
Speaker 2: our own teams. I have had broadcasts like during UCLA

3237
02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament basketball games where I know I'm here to

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02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:57,680
Speaker 2: do a job. Yeah, but I mean I get a

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02:36:57,720 --> 02:37:01,040
Speaker 2: little distracted right before you're watching games. You can't help yourself.

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02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:04,320
Speaker 2: You can't help yourself. You know, Chris has got a

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02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:07,320
Speaker 2: thousand different things to do today. Sure, but it has

3242
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:08,240
Speaker 2: been a crazy day.

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02:37:08,440 --> 02:37:11,480
Speaker 8: I you know, I cover the Lions and I go home,

3244
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:13,800
Speaker 8: and I do like the podcast of everything I can

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02:37:13,879 --> 02:37:16,440
Speaker 8: say safely though, and I will admit it, I will

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02:37:16,480 --> 02:37:18,240
Speaker 8: come clean. Today is the first day I have been

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02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:21,920
Speaker 8: genuinely distracted by a Lions game to the point where

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02:37:21,959 --> 02:37:24,640
Speaker 8: I have probably made several egregious errors on my job,

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02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:29,439
Speaker 8: including running that Washington play instead of the Jets.

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02:37:29,200 --> 02:37:32,760
Speaker 1: Waiting for the big set off, you know, like Jets waiting.

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02:37:32,840 --> 02:37:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, I'm like that does that sound

3252
02:37:35,320 --> 02:37:35,920
Speaker 1: like the Jets?

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02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:39,920
Speaker 2: I think that's the other I mean, but that's okay.

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02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:44,120
Speaker 2: Chris is first of all, anyone that is dedicated to

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02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:45,560
Speaker 2: their life to being an a Lions fan of my

3256
02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:48,519
Speaker 2: brother in law for over thirty years as a lifelong

3257
02:37:48,800 --> 02:37:51,480
Speaker 2: Lions fan, So I know what you guys are going through.

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02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a long time.

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02:37:53,240 --> 02:37:55,240
Speaker 8: The first division title that they've ever had for the

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02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:58,840
Speaker 8: NFC North since it existed, Yes, first division title since

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Speaker 8: I believe nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 1: It has been thirty years.

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02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:06,280
Speaker 8: Yes, Like I have people who are sharing stories with

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02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:10,080
Speaker 8: me on Twitter saying that their parents bought them a

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02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:12,760
Speaker 8: Lion's jacket because they were a fan as a kid,

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02:38:13,240 --> 02:38:16,720
Speaker 8: and that Lion's jacket has not seen a division crown

3267
02:38:16,879 --> 02:38:19,400
Speaker 8: until this very moment.

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Speaker 1: That's what this fan base has gone through. You you're

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02:38:22,800 --> 02:38:27,640
Speaker 1: describing like some of the saddest things, like imagine doing

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02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:30,920
Speaker 1: that to your child, Imagine giving them that first Lion

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02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:35,280
Speaker 1: starter jacket and saying, son or daughter, you're going to

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02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:38,160
Speaker 1: live a life of sweet, sweet misery when you're in

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02:38:38,200 --> 02:38:39,920
Speaker 1: the nineties, and they were winning like they were in

3274
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:41,959
Speaker 1: the nineties, I don't think you understood what you were

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02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,720
Speaker 1: signing your kid up. I guess that's the reason why

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02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:47,360
Speaker 1: the city of Detroit together hated Barry Sanders so much

3277
02:38:47,400 --> 02:38:48,040
Speaker 1: for retirement.

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking this up, Chris. And So the Lions

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02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:54,840
Speaker 2: did win the division title back in nineteen ninety three

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02:38:55,040 --> 02:38:57,520
Speaker 2: when it was the NFC Central, Yes, and they had

3281
02:38:57,560 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 2: a tough loss in the playoffs twenty eight tween twenty

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02:39:00,240 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 2: four loss to the Packers despite hosting that game. Do

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02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:07,120
Speaker 2: you have any idea who the starting quarterback was for

3284
02:39:07,240 --> 02:39:08,600
Speaker 2: the Lions in that game?

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Speaker 8: Okay, ninety three, so I'm gonna say it wasn't Scott

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02:39:12,560 --> 02:39:15,000
Speaker 8: Mitchell at that point, it was framer.

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02:39:14,720 --> 02:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Erek Kramer, who of course foutted him to their only

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02:39:18,120 --> 02:39:21,960
Speaker 2: playoff win since nineteen fifty seven two years earlier. Was

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02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:24,520
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback threw a couple of picks and got

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02:39:24,560 --> 02:39:26,720
Speaker 2: out play by a guy named Brett Faarr.

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Speaker 1: Favava never heard.

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02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:31,320
Speaker 2: I believe it's for printout free by the way Barry

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02:39:31,360 --> 02:39:34,480
Speaker 2: Sanders in that playoff game, twenty seven carries for one

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02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:35,880
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty nine yards.

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02:39:35,959 --> 02:39:40,400
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, guy was Barry. Barry was a joystick. Barry

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02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:43,199
Speaker 1: was a video game in real life.

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02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:46,240
Speaker 2: He was absolutely crazy, all right. So Lewy Lamb just

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02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:50,320
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown for the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for that pizza next week. It is

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02:39:52,680 --> 02:39:55,280
Speaker 2: going to be three lead for the Cowboys ensuing extra

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02:39:55,360 --> 02:39:57,560
Speaker 2: point of wink. Bears have a seven nothing laid over

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02:39:57,600 --> 02:40:00,440
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, Bucks ten to nothing over the jet We

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02:40:00,560 --> 02:40:02,120
Speaker 2: got a lot of football still to play.

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Speaker 1: That boy, that pizza is gonna taste good. Keep in here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio