1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,799 Speaker 1: Welcome in. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: We are rolling into the Monday edition of the Clay 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you. 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: I met a lot of you up in Michigan over 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: the weekend, the great event at Mcinaw Island for the 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: Republican Party of Michigan. 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about that. 9 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: As we move along, but Sunday taken over by the 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk Memorial that I would venture to say almost 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: all of you out there listening right now watched at 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: least a part of, if not substantial parts of I 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: know that many of you were among the ninety some 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: odd thousand that were in that stadium or the overflow 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: crowd in the arena in the Phoenix area, and so 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: I thought, of course that we should start there. 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Buck, I'll bring you in right off the top here. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: I watched, full disclosure, a lot of NFL football, as 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I also bet many of you did on Sunday, but 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that I saw every minute 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: of jd Vance, every minute of Erica Kirk, and every 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: minute of Donald Trump. As the keynote for a day 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: of memorial for Charlie Kirk. It was I thought an 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: incredibly well done event. We've got several different cuts to play. 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: But I imagine you also were watching a lot of 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: this during the course of your Sunday, perhaps unburdened by 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: any concern about NFL football as well, you might have 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: had it on the entire day. You are accurate in 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: your assumptions there, Yeah, Kerrie, in particular, I wanted to 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: watch really almost the whole thing, I think. I mean, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: it was on for hours. I did a bit of babysitting, 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: and so I wasn't able to give it my undivided 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: attention because speed is adorable but fussy sometimes. But I 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: did get to watch. I watched Trump's speech, I watched 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Erica's speech, jd Vance, Stephen Miller, who I thought gave 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: a a in his own Steven Miller way. Spectacular speeches, 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: very much a rallying cry, very much about the fight 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: for the future that Charlie would want us all to 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: engage in and stay focused on. But it was an 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: incredible event and a fitting tribute to a remarkable young man, 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: remarkable conservative father, husband and American So it really it 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: really came together very well. 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: Let's play what I thought was the most unbelievable resonant 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: moment of a day filled with many of them, and 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: that was Erica Kirk, who I just what an incredible 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: job she did last week on the Friday, to within 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: forty eight hours of her husband's assassination. But then to 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: come out and perform in front of this crowd in 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: such a way that she did is frankly extraordinary. And 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: I thought the moment, and this is the cover of 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: the New York Post today, This is the clip that 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: is circulating more than any other, is Erica Kirk forgiving 53 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: Charlie's assassin. 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Here is cut one. 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: My husband, Charlie. 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: He wanted to save young men, just like the one 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: who took his life on the cross. Our savior said, Father, 58 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: forgive them for they not know what they do. 59 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: That man, that young man, I forgive him. 60 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean buck. That was and that's thirty seconds of 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: a five or six hour event. But I thought it 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: distilled perfectly her message. One more cut, And I do 63 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: think this is important to after Charlie Kirk's assassination, not 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: one person that I have seen who was a Charlie 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Kirk supporter has been arrested for an act of violence, 66 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: for lashing out, looting, rioting in any way, And Erica 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: Kirk pointed that out cut too. 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: After Charlie's assassination, we didn't see violence, we didn't see rioting, 69 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 4: we didn't see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband 70 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: always prayed he would see in this country. 71 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: We saw revival. 72 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I thought those two clips perfectly distilled the entire day. 73 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: Buck anything else stand out to you, And I'm sure 74 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: that you were as blown away by eric A. Kirk, 75 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: who was not a professional politician, who was not a 76 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: professional speech giver, and the fact that to me, she 77 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: was the most compelling of anyone that took the stage yesterday. 78 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: It was It was what we, I think all expected 79 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: it to be in terms of the power and the 80 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: emotion of the gathering. You had not just the President himself, 81 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: but every top White House advisor, top Republicans, people who 82 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: all wanted to pay tribute to Charlie and to turning 83 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: point into the movement that he has created it. And 84 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I just think that this solidified if anybody had any questions, 85 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: and I think there are people do have anxieties about, 86 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know, will the work continue, will 87 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: we stay in the fight. I think that this memorial, 88 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: this service for Charlie, with almost one hundred thousand people 89 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: in attendance, answered those questions and then some and showed 90 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a life's work. Is 91 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: that is celebrated, it's obviously incredibly sad, and we think 92 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: about his wife and his children and his family, and 93 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: that pain is still very much there. But Charlie accomplished 94 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: so much in his thirty one years that it will 95 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: continue to inspire Americans and I think have incredibly positive 96 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: effects on the country for not just years, but generations 97 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: to come. And that's what greater tribute for the movement 98 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: and the work that he did. Could you have them that? 99 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: I also think it's time for us to in the 100 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: event that we have these riots and this looting you 101 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: always hear, you know, looting and rioting is the voice 102 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: of the voiceless. All these things, No, it's just an 103 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: excuse to steal things and there is no emotion. If 104 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: if all of these people can see what happened to 105 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk killed in cold blood, the video widely distributed everywhere, 106 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: A innocent person engaged in a free speech event and 107 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: the response to that is a revival church like event, 108 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: then I think any argument that in any way, this 109 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: is what they try to say on the left, Oh, 110 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: it's justified. It's the voice of the voiceless. You know, 111 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: all the things that they that they trod out there. 112 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: I hope that in the future, when there is a 113 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: scintilla of violent acts, that people are better than what 114 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Tim Walls was, because I think if Minnesota, Frankly had 115 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: a governor with a spine, I think they would have 116 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: stopped the rioting instantaneously in Minneapolis. I think if they had, 117 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: it would not have spread everywhere else. I hope that 118 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: we have learned how to shut down violent protests buck. 119 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I think what happened with Trump in LA is a 120 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: good example of this. I think he saw these could 121 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: be nationwide ice protests. No one wants to talk about it. 122 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: He called in the National Guard, they arrested people, and 123 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: basically the protest ended. And I'm not saying you can't protest. 124 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: You and I were big free speech proponents. I'm perfectly 125 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: fine with you making a poster board and going and 126 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: marching for whatever you believe in. But you don't have 127 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: the right to get a Molotov cocktail and light a 128 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: police car on fire. You don't have the right to 129 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: burn down buildings. You don't have the right to act 130 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: in anger, and the fact that we allowed that to happen, 131 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I think is a dark stain on America's soul. And 132 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I think the response to what happened to Charlie Kirk 133 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: has shown us that we can be angry, we can 134 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: be outraged, but we can be constructive and productive in 135 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the way that we respond to it. And I hope 136 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: that we have this example of how to deal with, frankly, 137 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: a political assassination the likes of which most of us 138 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: had never lived through. I hope it is something that 139 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: will be a lesson going forward. Well, this is also 140 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: a moment where you see that any attempt at both 141 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: sides ism in American politics today is dishonest because there's 142 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: no boarding up of stores, there's no fear of of 143 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: riots and bloodshed in the streets, which is obviously a 144 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: good thing, and that is also what our expectation is, 145 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: meaning that if that stuff started to happen, people on 146 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: the right would say, knock that off, we don't do that, 147 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: or what are you doing. You're playing into the other 148 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: side's hands to what you were saying a moment ago, 149 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: Clay the left can pick any issue and they can 150 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: start acting like maniacs in the streets. They can have 151 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: formerly Biden and then Kamala voters come forward and say 152 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: that what they're doing is somehow justified because of filling 153 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: the blank, you know, historical grievances, systematic racism, you know, 154 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: the transgenocide, whatever it may be, they have to make 155 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: or they choose to make allowances on their side for 156 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: those kinds of transgressions because it is baked into the ideology. Honestly, 157 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: emotional instability is one of the unifying characteristics of the left. Unfortunately, 158 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: at the extremes that means people that are violent and destructive, 159 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: and we've seen far too much of that. So it 160 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: was exactly the kind of memorial and remembrance and celebration 161 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: of life that we would want to see for based 162 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: on the principles that Charlie stood for and based on 163 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the kind of guy that he was. So I think 164 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: that everybody should, to the degree that we're all still 165 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: grieving and healing, but everyone should feel quite proud of 166 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: how the right came together and how people are celebrating 167 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: Charlie's life and his work. 168 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: I also think it's hard not to think that there 169 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: are going to be a lot of Charlie Kirks that 170 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: rise up. It's impossible to replace any legend. You and 171 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: I sit here at the golden microphone talking to everybody 172 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: out there every single day. What it takes is a 173 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: lot of people to lift their voices and be courageous 174 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: and brave. 175 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: And I do believe there are a lot of young 176 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: people that this will have a transformative impact on their life, 177 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: and I think you're already starting to see it. I 178 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: mentioned my boys, my teenage boys wearing coats and ties. 179 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: All the boys in their school doing it too, even 180 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: though Buck, you remember when you had to wear an 181 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: out they hate wearing coats and ties, but that is 182 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: something that they recognize is worthy of commemoration, of memorialization. 183 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: I think there are so many young people out there 184 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: that are going to be continuing to be impacted by 185 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk in a very very significant way. And I 186 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: think that's the positive evocation of the event. We'll take 187 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: some of your calls. Maybe some of you were there 188 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: no guest today, so we've got a lot to react to. 189 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: We'll have some fun that fallout of Kamala Harris's book 190 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: buck Ish. It is glorious. I have to say I 191 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts, Clay, I have a lot 192 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: of thoughts. And you and I were on We can 193 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: have some fun. You and I were on Katie Kaylee 194 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: mcaley's show, her debut, and a lot of people were 195 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: not happy with my lighting, not happy with my tie, 196 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: and so we will have some fun with that as well. 197 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: But congratulations to Kaylee on the new show, and we 198 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: were happy to be among her first guests ever. Her dad, 199 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: big Mississippi State fan, got a big game going on 200 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: in Starkviille this weekend against the University of Tennessee. I'm 201 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: sure he's listening right now. Awesome guy. Congrats to him too. Look, 202 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: scammers want your personal info. 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We 219 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 220 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 221 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 222 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck a bunch of news 223 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: stories to put on your radar. We're going to dive 224 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: into some of them here. Shortly. California has barred ICE 225 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: agents from wearing masks play. This doesn't go into effect 226 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: until January. They know it's going to be challenged, but 227 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: we should talk about this, just the the utter contempt 228 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: for immigration enforcement that the state government of California has, 229 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: along with some other states who are trying to pass 230 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: similar laws, which are these are lawless laws. They know 231 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: that they don't have the authority to do this. They're 232 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: just doing it anyway, and they know the court will 233 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: eventually overturn them, but they are just doing it anyway. 234 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. This just came out, Clay, and 235 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: because of some other bigger stories, I think got far 236 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: less attention that it would have otherwise. The the wacko 237 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: who said he wanted to kill a Supreme Court justice 238 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh is now identifies as a trans woman. Yes, so 239 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: there's that. We can discuss a bit more on that. 240 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: Just to mention that too, Buck nobody is covering it, 241 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: like the fact that this guy is trans. First of all, 242 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: we should dive into this in a little bit. But 243 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: the fact that we had a Supreme Court justice that 244 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: was attempted to be assassinated. The guy now says, hey, 245 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: I knew that if I killed enough people Roe v. 246 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: Wade wouldn't be overturned. I mean, this is another direct 247 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: political assassination from the left attempt and most people just 248 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: pretend it never happened. 249 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: And there's another part of that, Clay, which is that 250 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: they released the decision illicitly early a left clearly we 251 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: never found out who it was. Somebody knew that Roe 252 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: was about to be overturned. Somebody who works in the 253 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, Okay, k new Roe was going to be 254 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: done and decided, maybe we can change history or change 255 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: the future here if we put it out there and 256 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: someone takes action. That's exactly what this was. Yes, So 257 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: that should not be forgotten that there was a whole 258 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: series of events leading up to this now trends identifying 259 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: individual who said he wanted to kill Supreme Court Justice 260 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh, trying to keep Roe v. Wade the so 261 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: called law of the land. It was lawless all along. 262 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: That's one. And then on a far less serious note, 263 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: but an interesting note. Nonetheless, Clay, Kamala Harris's book is 264 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: not going over well with people. And I've got to 265 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: tell you this is not a surprise to me. I am, 266 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: I have, I have downloaded Kamala's book to my Kindle 267 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: and I have a long flight. You paid, you paid 268 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: for Kamala's book. Wait, hold on, Clay, you got. 269 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: After me for buying Original Sin and reading it and 270 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: there was actual news in there. This is big breaking news. 271 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: You bought Kamala's book. 272 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm I am. Actually it might even be in my 273 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: in my Amazon car. But by during the show today 274 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: it will be it will be bought. I would have 275 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: lost a lot of money on the bet. Will Buck 276 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: buy Kamala's book? Hold on, I Clay am an aspiring 277 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Kamala ology, Kamalala Kamalologists. Come, how do we say that 278 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: A a expert in Kamala? I am a expert in 279 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: all things Kamala. And so I am going to read 280 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: her book. I'm going to read her book. I'm going 281 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: to be able to bring you lots of mockery of 282 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: this have said book, and I am not the only 283 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: one because people out there are. They are not liking 284 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: the score settling, which goes to my point that her 285 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: future in the Democrat Party is essentially zero. 286 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: But we disagree you we should have some let's talk 287 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: about this when we come back. But I will say this, 288 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: a brilliant voice weight in on my side of this, Brillianah, 289 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: I know we will play that we come back. Let's 290 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: have some fun with this. I will say, if you 291 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: are out there and you play fantasy football, and you 292 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: are looking for punishments that someone might have to serve 293 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: if they come in last place, this is the thing 294 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: in fantasy football, Kamala Harris's book and a book report 295 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: with drafted analysis like a written book report as if 296 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: you are a kid, would be a phenomenal point. 297 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: People would just use chat GPT, but they should have 298 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: to read it on their on their Instagram or their 299 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: social media account. You know, they have to read their 300 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: book report of Kamala's book. That's good too, That's very good. 301 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: I want to tell you Pure Talk maybe you need 302 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: some Wi Fi to do your Kamala Harris book report. 303 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: Pure Talk can take care of you. They can save 304 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: you up to one thousand dollars over the course of 305 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: an entire year. It's not too long now, believe it 306 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: or not. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas into the year. Maybe you're 307 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: looking at that budget and you're saying, oh my goodness, 308 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: we spent way too much on summer vacation. Now we 309 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: got to figure out how to balance out all the 310 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: other costs. And extra thousand dollars at the end of 311 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: the year could give you a nice buffer. My kids, 312 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: my seventeen year old just turn fifteen, got to get 313 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: their ages right. They both have Puretalk phones. I trust 314 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 2: it to stay in touch with them. You can get 315 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: hooked up with the best possible deal. Puretalk, a company 316 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: for Americans, buy Americans that loves America as much as 317 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: you do. Switch pound two five zero, Say Clay and 318 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: Buck from your phones now pound two five zero say 319 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck. 320 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. 321 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and last week 322 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: you will recall with far more important stories in our site. 323 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: The suspension important word there. Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, a 324 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: an unfunny late night comedy host, became a cause among Democrats. 325 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Republicans are embracing cancel culture, the First Amendment, all this stuff. 326 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: I have a few thoughts on this, because, first of all, 327 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: the latest reporting is that Disney is considering bringing him back, 328 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: so this would be a suspend. That's why the suspension 329 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: versus cancelation is a very interesting part of the conversation. 330 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: I would also add that Clay the whole oh my gosh, 331 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: the FCC, all that, all that stuff that we were 332 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: hearing last week, Well, if they're just going to bring 333 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: him back, what does that mean about all that FCC talk, 334 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: It means that it was Disney's decision in the first place. 335 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Disney's decision. In the last place, it is a private 336 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: company that is making this choice. Uh, now I wonder 337 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: what they're going to do here. And Clay, you understand 338 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: that I want you to lay this out for everybody 339 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't follow the machinations of corporate 340 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: of the of the corporate suite of media as closely 341 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: as as you do. Right then, the mergers and acquisitions 342 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Uh, you know who owns who? 343 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: I still I have to remind myself who owns NBC again? 344 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: And who bought Paramount? And where's Viacom in all this? 345 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: And Discovery Channel is what? And you know these things 346 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: are always in flux. You have a very good handle 347 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: on that. You follow that stuff pretty closely. Before we 348 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: get into that, I would just point out though the 349 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: the oh my gosh, Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled. We 350 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: should all be so upset about this. And of course 351 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert and others were jumping on this bandwagon. The 352 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: guy from Ozark I saw him saying something about it. 353 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: What's his name Bateman, right, the actor Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman. 354 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: He is actually I think he's a very good actor. 355 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: So It's always kind of a bummer when you see 356 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: somebody like, can't you just be the good actor and 357 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: not say the dumb things? But he spoke out on 358 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: They say, oh, look, people allowed to speak out on it. 359 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm just alowed to say I I don't care and 360 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: their opinions are irrelevant. But Douglas Mackie, I'm not sure 361 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: who this fellow age? You see this he put out 362 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: on Twitter? This one very viral. Clay, I'm sorry, I 363 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: must have missed it. I haven't caught up in the 364 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: latest news. Did PayPal cancel Jimmy Kimmel's personal account, did 365 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Chasin Bank of America shut down his account? Did Twitter 366 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: ban him? Did Facebook suspend him? Did Stripe shut him down? 367 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: Did the FBI open up an investigation into him? Did 368 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: protesters force him to evacuate his studio? Did they chase 369 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: him to his house and force him to evacuate that too? 370 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: Is there an entire ideology centered around the idea that 371 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel can't be allowed to speak anymore? Et cetera, 372 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: et cetera. He went into all of this, and I 373 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: just say, yeah, they're very of cancelation versus the so 374 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: called right wing version of cancelation are also very different things. 375 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: But you tell me there's more going on here even 376 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: than just is Jimmy Kimmel an unfunny jerk. Yeah. 377 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: My basic takeaway here is unless you advocated for Roseanne Barr, 378 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: and unless you advocated for Gina Carano, and I'm specifically 379 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: referencing Disney corporate decisions based on speech, then I don't 380 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: want to hear a word from you about Jimmy Kimmel. 381 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: Now I advocated aggressively for Roseanne bar I don't think 382 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: anybody should be canceled for a tweet. I really don't 383 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: in the creative space, because I think it blows up 384 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: eventually on all of us. I even defended a guy 385 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: that I think is a total war on, Keith Olberman, 386 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: that has said all sorts of crazy things in my 387 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: opinion about Charlie Kirk. And I defend this company iHeart, 388 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: which says, hey, we want to put out every single 389 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: type of audio known to man, just like in music. 390 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: I mean, leave aside political opinions. Some of you may 391 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: really care a ton about rap music, others of you 392 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: hate it. Some of you love country music, some of 393 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: you love classical music. I heart provides it all right, 394 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: we should. I think the company give everybody every option 395 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: out there, a big buffet of audio choices, and you 396 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 2: should be able to dive into it. Even if I 397 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: think people like Keith Olberman or moronic, and I think 398 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: on his podcast, I'm pretty sure he called me a 399 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: white supremacist. 400 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: You can say a lot. Sure he's called me. He's 401 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: called me tug sex butt, which is very mean, exactly 402 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: to his credit. That's actually pretty funny. 403 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: But my point on it is, even inside of the 404 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: same company, there are people that are taking shots at us, 405 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: and I'm totally fine with it because there may be 406 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: some of you may find this shocking. 407 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: There may be people who don't like Buck or me, 408 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: even though I think they have awful taste. It's very 409 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: search and my mom and Buck's mom we just didn't 410 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: understand how you could ever have that opinion, but some 411 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: people do. Does your mom still kind of want to 412 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: fight everybody who doesn't like you online? Because my mom 413 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: totally does too. It's such a mom thing. I'm like, 414 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: don't worry about a mom. She's like, I will finish them. 415 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: I told you. 416 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: About when I first started writing that my mom got 417 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: in the mentions underneath my articles to defend me. Oh yeah, 418 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: back in two thousand and five, like twenty some odd 419 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: years ago, I was writing and they started to allow 420 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: all the mentions underneath you know, articles, and my mom 421 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: created an account and went in and was defending me, 422 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: and uh, I think it was I think it was 423 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: my sister. She was like, Hey, just so you know, 424 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 2: Mom is in the comment. 425 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Your mom is a great lady in the mom My 426 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: mom would totally do the same thing, by the way, 427 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: like if she hasn't done it, she totally would, because 428 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's we're always there, little boy, you know 429 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? 430 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: An account to respond to people saying mean things about 431 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: me in the comments underneath my articles. 432 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: And I had to call. I was like, Mom, you 433 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: know this is great, but it's going to turn into 434 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: a story if you're in the comments all the time. 435 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Ten Clay anecdote like this is up there with the 436 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: zero people showing up to the book signing, like this 437 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: is a great Clay story. I like this a lot. 438 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: Mom. 439 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mom was in the comments and well, you know, 440 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: and just defending me. You know, like my son is 441 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: a really I mean, it's really, I mean, every mom 442 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: out there can appreciate it. And I was like, Mom, 443 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, but you can't do this because it's 444 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: going to turn into a big story in the years 445 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: ahead if you're always in the comments fighting with people. 446 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: And I've seen this from other moms sports message boards. 447 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: Every now and then, somebody's mom, you know, the kids 448 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: getting attacked because not playing quarterback or whatever. Well enough, 449 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: and mom will just go out And I want to 450 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 2: give her credit because I thought this was really funny. 451 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: More of Rutledge super talented ESPN employee, did an interview 452 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: recently where she said her husband Josh, who was a 453 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: baseball player, played for the Red Sox other teams, major 454 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: League Baseball player, really talented guy that people would would 455 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: rip him, and she created a burner account. 456 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: She came clean. She was like, I just I had 457 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: a burner account on social media where I would just 458 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: go in and defend my husband because people would be like, oh, 459 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: he went eight over four, and she's like, did you 460 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: see the great catch that he made in center field? Which, 461 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: again I think sometimes what we do is harder on 462 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: the periphery the people who are not us, than it 463 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: is us ourselves. Much like if you are an athlete 464 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: on the field and it's a stressful moment in a game. 465 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: You will often say, yeah, I didn't feel the stress 466 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: because you controlled the outcome in some way. But Mom 467 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: or dad, girlfriend, whoever it is, sitting in the crowd, sister, 468 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: brothers that they feel the intensity and the nervousness more 469 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: than the person on the field. 470 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: I think that's true for what we do too. And 471 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: I know the periphery, the p numbers surrounding us to 472 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: people and family feel that. But so that's a true story. 473 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: Mom probably listening right now. I appreciate her stepping in 474 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: now on your point on media. I love all this stuff. 475 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: And again, if you didn't defend Roseanne, if you didn't 476 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: defend Gina Corano when Disney canceled both despite the fact 477 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: that they had far more successful shows they were a 478 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: part of. In the Roseanne show whatever it was called, 479 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 2: the Connors, I think, and in The Mandalorian, which at 480 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: the time was the most popular show on Disney Plus, 481 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: and I'm told from my kids and my wife who 482 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: watch it was fantastic, really good show. 483 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: They canceled Gina Corano. I don't want to hear a 484 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: word about Jimmy Kimmel. 485 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: But I think what's being actually at play here Buck 486 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: that nobody's talking about. There's multiple different media angles. First 487 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: of all, Disney is trying to buy the NFL network. 488 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: In order to buy the NFL network, they're gonna have 489 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: to get Trump approved. I think Bob Iger saw this 490 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: saw an opportunity to just curry favor with the Trump 491 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: administration by benching Jimmy Kimmel, potentially kicking him to the curb. 492 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it was about Kimmel at all. I 493 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: think it's about the NFL. Other part, Next Star and. 494 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: Sinclair are two major affiliate groups of ABC. A lot 495 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: of people think, oh, if I watch ABC that's owned 496 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: most of us actually watch on an affiliate station my 497 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: for instance, ABC affiliate in Nashville is owned by Nextstar. 498 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: I think those guys are also trying to curry favor 499 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: over some of the decisions that are going to be 500 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: made by the Trump administration over the next few years, 501 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: and they see it as an opportunity to curry favor 502 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: by kneecapping Jimmy Kimmel as well. So while everybody's focused 503 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: on Jimmy Kimmel and what he said, which was wrong, 504 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: and which I think that he should have to apologize 505 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: for the way that it was conveyed because it wasn't 506 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: a joke, it was the background of a joke. And 507 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: so but I think this is the bigger story that's 508 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: going on, is there is a desperate desire for the 509 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Disney Corporation to buy the NFL network. They want to 510 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: get Trump approval, and then I think also the affiliates 511 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: are seeking Trump approval as well, and Jimmy Kimmel in 512 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: that way is just kind of a just kind of 513 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: a random anti Trump zellot that they don't really they're 514 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: not committed to because they're making no money on okay, 515 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: But final answer here, are they bringing Jimmy Kimmel back. 516 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: It's a big decision. I think they will. They will. 517 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I think they will as well, and I think that 518 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: that's going to show a lot of bad faith to 519 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: people that feel like Disney finally did something to show 520 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: respect to the half the country that Disney has been 521 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: effectively from a corporate level spitting on for a long 522 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: time now. Yep, I think Disney is playing with fire 523 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: here more than they are. 524 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I think Disney has managed 525 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: to put themselves in a position where they may well 526 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: be boycotted in both directions simultaneously. 527 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: Yes, because everybody that's right when you don't. 528 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: This is a great line from Charles Barkley and uh 529 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: and and I think it's it's great lesson for life. 530 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: No matter what you do, if you worry about trying 531 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 2: to make the people who don't like you like you, 532 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: then the people who do like you won't like you anymore. 533 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: And so much of social media is trying to make 534 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: people who don't like you, oftentimes operating in poor and 535 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: bad faith, like you. 536 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: And if you worry about that, if you worry. 537 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: About that, then you're going to end up in a 538 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: situation where the people who do like you and respect 539 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: you will no longer like and respect you either. And 540 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: I think Disney, frankly, Bob Iger has he made too 541 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: really good decison. He bought Marvel, he bought the Star 542 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: Wars and then and Pixar, a three good decisions. Basically 543 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: since then he's been an awful CEO. You go look 544 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: at Disney stock and I bet a lot of you 545 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: own it. It hasn't gone up in a decade, a 546 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: full decade. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars as CEO. 547 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: I think he's destroyed the brand to a large extent 548 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: that Disney built. And I don't think that he has 549 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: tended to create great content. He's become more political than creative, 550 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: and that's a bad combination. 551 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I also just think to what you were saying a 552 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: moment ago and about the sage, the advice from mister Barkley, Yeah, 553 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: which I would I would say that that's very, very true. 554 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: Part of being an adult. I think part of maturing 555 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: is just understanding that people are going that You're going 556 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: to have people dislike you for reasons that you should 557 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: be proud of, and therefore it shouldn't bother you. All. Like, 558 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: people are going to be mad at you for telling 559 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: the truth, and you have to embrace that. And I 560 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: mean that in a very general sense. I mean that 561 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: in your day to day life, not just in politics. 562 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: People will be mad at you for saying what is true, 563 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: will be mad at you or not like you for 564 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: calling them on their stuff or refusing to play their games, 565 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. If everybody likes you, you 566 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: are not doing what you need to do. That is 567 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: another truism of life. I'll tell you one other thing. 568 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: Make the circle that people that you care about small. 569 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: And that's going to sound mean, but what I mean 570 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: is if you can't control anything like I care. And 571 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: I say this all the time about my three boys 572 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: and my wife, that's in my household, that's the things 573 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: that I'm directly involved in. I can't control a lot 574 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: of what everybody else does. And so much of life. 575 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: Is focused on people that you have no ability to 576 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: actually try to make good choices. You worry about, you 577 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: get concerned about, and you can't You don't have any 578 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: an ability to impact it. 579 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Like when your boys said that you were an unk 580 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: for wearing quarter length socks. Let me tell you I'm 581 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: in the blast radius of that enough that whenever now 582 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: I go through my drawer, I find those socks that 583 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: are low. No. I don't want to be an unk, 584 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: don't I don't want the Travis boys to find out 585 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: that I'm dressed like that. So you know what I'm saying, 586 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: You got to pay attention to who you pay attention to. 587 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: The boys light me up all the time for being 588 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: an UNK, and I just look around and I'm like, 589 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, unks are right about a lot. And that's 590 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: why I'm fine taking the shrapnel here for being an 591 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: old guy who wants things to not change. There you go. 592 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: We brought it full circle. Our look. A home burglary 593 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: happens every thirty seconds on average. 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Appreciate all 628 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. 629 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of different clips that I want 630 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: to make sure that we get to to kind of 631 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: update you on how everything is going out there. 632 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: And I've sent a couple in. Let me pull them 633 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: up to see exactly what's going on here. 634 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to. 635 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: First play a clip of Harry Inton we are not 636 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: that far away, one year away from the election taking 637 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 2: place in the midterms. And here is what CNN's Harry 638 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: Inton says, Republicans are advantaged by. Let's listen to that cut. 639 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 6: So what are we seeing, you know, Donald Trump being 640 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 6: underwater Democrats and all this guarantees us we're gonna fly 641 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 6: high in the midtrans Let me tell you this guarantees 642 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 6: you nothing. Nothing because at this particular point, the Democrats 643 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 6: are the New Orleans Saints of political parties. What are 644 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 6: we talking about, trust the Dems or GOP? More on 645 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 6: the economy? Who leads on the economy Republicans by seven Immigration, 646 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 6: Republicans by thirteen. How about crime? A big issue for 647 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 6: Donald Trump? And the Republicans look at that lead by 648 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 6: twenty two points. So the bottom line is this, at 649 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 6: this particular point, the ball may be on the ground, 650 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 6: but the Democrats have not picked up the ball. 651 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: I'm running with it. If anything, at. 652 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 6: This particular point, it's the Republicans who are running with 653 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 6: the ball on the top issues the economy, immigration, and crime. 654 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so that is out there worth paying attention to. 655 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: As we said, about fourteen months away from the midterms 656 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: taking place, I also wanted to play this because Buck, 657 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 2: you talked about it, and there was the report from 658 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: Mary Margaret Olahan at the Daily Wire came out on 659 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: Friday afternoon that the individual who tried to kill Supreme 660 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: Court Justice Kavanaugh in the Washington, DC area, this would 661 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 2: be assassin, was motivated by the fact that he wanted 662 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: to overturn the overturning of Roe v. 663 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: Wade. 664 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: That is, he wanted to kill a justice. Why this 665 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: is so important and I feel like it's totally been 666 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: snowed under you mentioned it. We still have no idea 667 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: who specifically leaked to this opinion, but the goal was 668 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: to put pressure on Republicans and potentially meaning Republican appointees 669 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: on the Court and potentially get one of these individuals killed. Remember, 670 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 2: Democrats had control of the Senate and they had control 671 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: of the White House, So if the Brett Kavanaugh assassin 672 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: had succeeded, this was a draft opinion. It doesn't become 673 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: law until there is actually the release of the opinion. 674 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: So if you kill a Supreme Court justice, you get 675 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 2: a new one appointed. The outcome of this case could 676 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: have potentially been changed based on assassin goals, and I 677 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: believe we have audio, if somebody will share me the number, 678 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: but that was just discussed by the White House Press 679 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: briefing with Caroline Levitt thirty four. 680 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's play that and then I'll get you to react 681 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: as well. 682 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 7: Buck, Charlie's killer lived with his boyfriend who identifies as transgender. 683 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 8: And then we have the Annunciation shooting, the Covenant shooting, all. 684 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 7: Of these incidents. 685 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 4: The President said that we're looking into transgender violence. 686 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 7: Does that mean the FBI is looking into it? 687 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 8: And can you give any more clarity on how the 688 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 8: administration is viewing this of taking specifically transgender violence. It's 689 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 8: definitely something worth looking into, and I think anyone who 690 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 8: denies that at this point is being willfully ignorant, and 691 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 8: the administration is taking it seriously. All causes of violence 692 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 8: and why these people would be driven to such evil 693 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 8: and such hatred, and there's probably many answers to that question, 694 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 8: but the administration is really focused on all of them 695 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 8: for individual investigations. In cases, of course, the FBI and 696 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 8: the Department of Justice are eating those. 697 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so this would be assassin also trans So Buck, 698 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: you just heard that question. The extent the audio wasn't great. 699 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: Minneapolis trans shooter, Nashville trans shooter, the it would be 700 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Brett Kavanaugh assassin, trans shooter, and the person who just 701 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: assassinated Charlie Kirk living with a trans person and motivated 702 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: in some way by trans related issues. Seems kind of 703 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: like a significant trend just in the last year of 704 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: outrageous levels of trans violence. 705 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, you have people who are disproportionately in let's just say, 706 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: in need of mental health assistance. That's that's part one 707 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: of this. It used to be that transgenderism was considered 708 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: something that alone was grounds for serious mental health treatment, 709 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: and now we've reached an era where there has to 710 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: be not only affirmation of it, but celebration of it. 711 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: And if you don't go along with that. As we 712 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: have seen in the press for years now, there are 713 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: these really wild claims about like the transgenocide, you know, 714 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: the effort clay just to stop the surgeries and hormone giving. 715 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: It's mostly hormone giving, but sometimes surgery too, and these 716 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: clinics that are doing this in places around the country. 717 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: That has been responded to by the pro trans community 718 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: with a complete outrage, Like the notion that you wouldn't 719 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: want a twelve year old or a fourteen year old 720 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: to start taking puberty blockers. They can't answer these questions 721 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: like what are the long term studies on first of all, 722 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: will this make this person actually feel better? Long term 723 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: studies than that if you really look at it, very 724 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: poor What are the long term health implications of this? 725 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Very poorly understood? And yet they push all of this 726 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: and they still don't really know what to say about 727 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this has cut twenty Clay. This is Abigail Spanberger, 728 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: who's supposed to be the great moderate hope of the 729 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Democrat Party in Virginia, right, the sort of a throwback. 730 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: Mostly I think she's just boring and doesn't really stand 731 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: for anything that's their version of a moderate. Here she 732 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: is saying, well, I'll let you listen to her on 733 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: the trans issue play twenty. 734 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 9: Do you support biological males who say they're women using 735 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 9: women's locker rooms and bathrooms and competing in women's sports. 736 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 10: Well, the circumstance as this legal case plays out is 737 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 10: really one of we've had court cases settled or judged 738 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 10: here in Virginia in the fourth District, the former Gavin 739 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 10: Grim case related to bathroom usage, and in fact the 740 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 10: argument is the assessment is. There needs to be much 741 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 10: clearer guidance in terms of what is an executive orders 742 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 10: binding assessment of Title nine versus what has been a 743 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 10: decision of a court. 744 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: Do you personally support these policies? 745 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 9: You personally support them, But do you support these locker 746 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 9: room or bathroom policies? Congresswoman? Why can't you answer this 747 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 9: question directly? Congresswoman? Congress women, do you support these bathroom 748 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 9: and locker room than you? Why can't you answer these 749 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 9: questions directly? 750 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: We know why, and she won't, And I'm dizzy from 751 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 1: her answer that was that was a remarkable, uh, series 752 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: of just non sequiturs and spewing nonsense. 753 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: This is what media should do. I don't know, guys, 754 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: can you give me the guy's name who asked that question. 755 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: There's no reason to be a media figure if you're 756 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 2: going to ask questions that no one wants to know 757 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: the answer to. And sometimes that non answer is more 758 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: revealing than an actual answer would be. This is how 759 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 2: broken the Democrat Party is. If you ask me, should 760 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: men be able to compete in women's sports? I would say, 761 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: of course not. Ninety nine percent of you listening to 762 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 2: us right now hecket, maybe one hundred percent would say 763 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 2: no doubt. What does it say about the Democrat Party 764 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: that that answer, which is all just gobblygook and designed 765 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: to distract from the question itself, is basically the standard tenant. 766 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: By the way, give him credit. I don't know what 767 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: else he's ever done, so I'm not endorsing everything he's 768 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: ever done. I feel like you need to say that. 769 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: But that is. 770 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: WJLATV reporter Nick Minnock. So that's the person who followed up. 771 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: That's the person asking this question to me. If I 772 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: lived in Virginia, this would be enough for me to 773 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: vote single handedly against Abigail Spamberger. I don't know anything 774 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: else about her positions. But if you will not honestly 775 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: tell me what you believe on this issue, how can 776 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: I trust you on anything. That's why I think this 777 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: issue of men and women sports is such a crucible marker, 778 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,479 Speaker 2: because if you'll lie to me about this, I can't 779 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: trust you on anything else. 780 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: Well, this is also where Democrats find themselves, as we're 781 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: going to be getting ready for a midterm election here 782 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: constantly playing the game of well, I'm not one of 783 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: those Democrats. I'm some other Democrat. I'm not one of 784 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: the open borders trans guys in your daughter's locker room. 785 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, go down the list of all these things. 786 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: Notice how I just want to point this out. When 787 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 1: was the last time you heard anybody talk about climate change? 788 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: Just to give you a sense of what a absolutely 789 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: manufactured delusion book plug climate change is. It was Clay 790 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: Obama gave a speech and I think it was the 791 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: Coastguard Academy. He said, the biggest national security threat we 792 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: face is climate change. This was a and I understand 793 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: right now, Buck, why are you even wasting our time? 794 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: Who cares about climate change? Exactly a few years ago 795 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: it was the biggest thing that we all had to 796 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: be so worried about. Now it's absolutely nothing. Democrats are in. 797 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: The party is saying their ideas make no sense. And 798 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: here you have Chuck Schumer, who's one of a perfect 799 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: example of this. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and these 800 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: others exist to pretend the Democrat Party today isn't what 801 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: it really is to fool older voters who just don't 802 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: know where is Where's Schumer? 803 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 9: On? 804 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 6: Mom? 805 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: Donnie Clay, here you go listen to this play seventeen. 806 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 7: Please, there are two key questions here that you haven't answered. 807 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 7: One is will you ever endorse him? And two what 808 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 7: do you need from him to get your endorsement? 809 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 11: Okay, well, first of all, you know, I know him. 810 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 11: We've had a good relationship in the past, and we 811 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 11: had a good meeting two weeks ago, a very long 812 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 11: meeting with a lot of serious questions. And all I 813 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 11: can tell you is I'm going to continue talking to him. 814 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 7: What's the hold up? 815 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 11: I got to continue talking to him, and that's. 816 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: What I'm going to do. 817 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 7: Is part of the calculus that if you endorse a 818 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 7: Democratic socialist, you're worried it will be damaging to your 819 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 7: maybe they've been your chances of winning back the Senate. 820 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to continue talking to him. Danny, you can 821 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: answer me again. I mean a CNN actually doing real 822 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: journalism for a second there. I was shocked by it, 823 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: but that's legitimate. She can see Clay, we can all 824 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: see it. The whole game here is people like Schumer 825 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: who have been in this game forever. They are at 826 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: the top of the Democrat power structure, but they have 827 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: to tell the general public that the Democrats are something 828 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 1: other than what they are, especially this up and coming 829 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: generation of lunatics. 830 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is why I've said, sorry, New York, 831 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 2: maybe Mam Donnie just is an awful mayor for you, 832 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: But I think that the premise of her question is accurate, 833 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,959 Speaker 2: and so is the response of Chuck Schumer by trying 834 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 2: to dodge it. He's terrified that Mam Donni and AOC 835 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 2: are going to be seen as the face of the 836 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: Democrat Party in the midterms because overwhelming majorities of America 837 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: I think will reject them, and that's why he's trying 838 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: to dodge the question. But even see it in now 839 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: is on and starting to ask a little bit at 840 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: least basic questions that. 841 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: That they're afraid to answer it. Sometimes somebody's afraid to 842 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: answer a question, say it's all about, you know, boiling 843 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: the frog slowly. AOC is a Democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders 844 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: a Democratic Socialist. They just they want to wait and 845 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: wait so that people, you know, don't really understand what's 846 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: going on and who's really calling the shots and what 847 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: kind of policies they really want to do. He just 848 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to say it out loud. He doesn't want 849 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: to tell people the truth Chuck Schumer about the direction. 850 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't think the mom donnyism play is some fringe 851 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: thing Democrats are going to walk. I think that's what 852 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is. Well, Chuck Schumer's just there to 853 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: lie about that, and I think that's certainly what a 854 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: AOC believes, which is why I know you talked about this. 855 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 1: On Friday, Axios reported she's going to run for president probably. 856 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: I think she's definitely going to run for president. Oh 857 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,479 Speaker 1: and I. 858 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 2: Think she sees herself as the heir to the Bernie 859 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 2: Sanders left of the party, and you can see that 860 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 2: with the way that she's been handling the attacking the 861 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 2: oligarchy tour when this is all very funny. They only 862 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 2: traveled via a private plane, and reports are AOC stayed 863 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: in one thousand. 864 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: Dollars a night hotel rooms. 865 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 2: I just some of this stuff, Like, I bet that 866 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 2: no one listening to us right now hardly. There may 867 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: be some billionaires out there that have stayed in one 868 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a night hotel rooms, And there is just 869 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: no way that all you had to do was just 870 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 2: fly commercial first class. You can fly first class and 871 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: just stay in normal hotel rooms. They want to live 872 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 2: like oligarchs, but they want to live like oligarchs while 873 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: being members of Congress and the Senate. Right, they want 874 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: all of the benefits that come with making a lot 875 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: of money without having made the money themselves. Instead, they 876 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: want the taxpayer to fund it, or they're donors to 877 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: fund it. 878 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: That's the story of these people. Remember Tax the Rich. 879 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: When AOC showed up at the fifty thousand dollars per 880 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: ticket Mechala in her white Tax the Rich dress. I mean, 881 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: these people are such frauds. 882 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 2: This coming week in New York City, Tunnel the Towers 883 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 2: Foundation having their annual Tunnel the Towers five k Run 884 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 2: and walk, held each year on the last Sunday of September. 885 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and 886 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 2: two now considered one of the top five k runs 887 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: in the country, drawing forty thousand people last year. It 888 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 2: retraces firefighter Steven Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning 889 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 2: his car, he ran with sixty pounds of gear from 890 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 2: the foot of the Battery Tunnel to the Twin Towers. 891 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,479 Speaker 1: He never made it out the five thousand. The five 892 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: K pays homage to the three hundred and forty three 893 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: FDNY firefighters, law enforcement officers, and thousands of civilians who 894 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: lost their lives on nine to eleven. Proceeds from the 895 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: event support the foundation's programs, including those benefiting first response unders, 896 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: catastrophically injured service members, and more. 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