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Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants Mobile, the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the news edition of the Giant Shuttle Podcast, John

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Speaker 1: Smoke with you. Today's guest is Dan Orlowski from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: But first, as a reminder of the Giant Shuttle Podcast

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Speaker 1: Mobile app. And now we're joined by our guest. He

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Speaker 1: is Dan Orlovski. You know him from ESPN. He does

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Speaker 1: some color analysts on some of their college games. He's

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Speaker 1: always on NFL Live and you should check out his

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Speaker 1: new podcast. It got right to the top of my list.

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Speaker 1: It's called Tape Heads. It's what Scott Pioli Bob with

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Speaker 1: Susan and of course Dan who studies all that tape. Dan,

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Speaker 1: you got smelk here. Good to talk to you, man.

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Speaker 1: How's everything? Yeah, everything is great. But it's really really

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Speaker 1: good to talk with you, especially for the Giants after

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Speaker 1: coming off a really good win on the road, right,

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Speaker 1: So it's good to be with you, man. Yeah, absolutely, Man.

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Speaker 1: We were we were texting last week and we were

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Speaker 1: joking back and forth about the Giants you needed to

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Speaker 1: get big plays, and I think they listened. They lead

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Speaker 1: the league in explosives in in in Week four in

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Speaker 1: terms of passes over fifteen yards. What you see in

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Speaker 1: that game that that allowed them to start getting some

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Speaker 1: of those explosive plays. Yeah, I think first of all,

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Speaker 1: that the coaches understood that, you know, specifically Jason Garrett,

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Speaker 1: they had to help some of those. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: not often, Hey, I called this play, just gonna make

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Speaker 1: it happen. A couple of plays stand out to me.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the John Ross touchdown. UM. That was

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Speaker 1: what we call a p and ten. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: first down within the physic you get that there's often

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Speaker 1: these tendencies that defenses will give you. Hey, the defense

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Speaker 1: loves to come out. When we give them twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: to start a position, they're gonna give us their nickel

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Speaker 1: front and um cover four. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: happened in this situation. P and ten. You get the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to understand or or kind of assume the defense

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Speaker 1: is gonna be in a coverage and you take your shot.

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Speaker 1: So that is coaching. Now. Credit Daniel Jones and Ross

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Speaker 1: for the execute issue, but that is coaching. UM. A

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Speaker 1: couple of chunk throws in the play action game I

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Speaker 1: loved because they presented the defense with the same formation

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Speaker 1: slot two back, condensed splits and ran one row concept

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Speaker 1: and came back in the second half the same formation,

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Speaker 1: same look, same action, but a different row concept. That's

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Speaker 1: not something that Giants have done. UM. I love the

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Speaker 1: fact of the Sa Kuon Barkley touchdown because earlier in

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Speaker 1: that game they ran empty set Sa Kuon Barkley outside

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Speaker 1: and ran that stick route and Daniel Jones through its form. Well,

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Speaker 1: they come back to the same thought process and the

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Speaker 1: thing for me is that that is something that has

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Speaker 1: talked about on the sideline with Daniel Jones. Hey, Marshall

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Speaker 1: and Latimore is getting nosy, he's getting eyes in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: When we put Sa Kuan Outtark, we're gonna give him

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Speaker 1: the same look. Let's take our shot down field. And

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Speaker 1: again it's always tied together. UM. But I just love

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's seen the coaches really understood, all right,

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Speaker 1: there there's some stuff here that we can do to

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Speaker 1: help these guys go creative of these explosive plays. Now, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Four, those explosive plays came on first

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Speaker 1: set those up. And how much, too, had to do

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Speaker 1: with what the defense was showing them, right, because the

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Speaker 1: first three weeks the Falcons, Denver and Washington they play

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Speaker 1: How much is what defenses are showing you going to

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Speaker 1: So when you're playing these zone defense, because we're seeing

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Speaker 1: But the big thing is when the opportunities present themselves,

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Speaker 1: You know? Why? Why Daniel? Why? And I I said

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Speaker 1: that's part of it. Number Two, we're watching this team

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Speaker 1: given sometimes it's just you know, it's nice to clear

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Speaker 1: when you get some more play action on first down,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Enjoy the rest of the season. Brother.

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Speaker 1: episode of The Giant Subtle Podcast. Great conversation. Hope you

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