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Speaker 2: Oh, no, no big deal, just another series win, this

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Speaker 2: one over the Rainy World Series champions. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: Cardinal Territory, Katieu, Bernie Nicholas, here with you. The Saint

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Speaker 2: Louis Cardinals played another thrilling series here at Bushetia, and

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Speaker 2: they took two or three from the Dodgers, won five nothing,

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Speaker 2: shut them out on Friday, the walk off win two

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Speaker 2: to one on Saturday, and lost seven to three today.

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Speaker 2: But a lot to like about Michael mcgreevy's spots start,

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Speaker 2: which we'll get into. All around, though, pretty good weekend

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Speaker 2: for the Saint Louis Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: They seem to be back on track. Bernie, your opinions.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know, we'll talk about McGreevy. I'm totally cool

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Speaker 3: with the way he pitched the to day. You know,

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Speaker 3: he showed some real quality And as I told you

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Speaker 3: before we started recording, I mean, did we really think

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Speaker 3: that in three days the Los Angeles Dodgers wouldn't score

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Speaker 3: some runs?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's inevitable. They did an incredible

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Speaker 3: job really holding the Dodgers down, as like Otani and

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Speaker 3: Freeman especially so. But I like the way McGreevy looked

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Speaker 3: today like the way he battled back up. The other

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Speaker 3: thing is, and we were talking about this, so the Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: you know, win a series from the Dodgers, and is

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Speaker 3: it time? And I'm nationally is one thing, but I'm

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Speaker 3: even talking about locally, isn't it time that we sort

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Speaker 3: of view the Cardinals differently? You know? Whenever they beat

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Speaker 3: you know, something like that. You know, they beat the

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Speaker 3: you know, collectively, we're like surprised, we're a little surprised. Well,

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Speaker 3: why should we be surprised? The Cardinals have been once

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Speaker 3: they got their bullpen straight. The Cardinals have been winning

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Speaker 3: series against really good teams, you know, for more than

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Speaker 3: to say April May, you know, almost two months. So

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Speaker 3: this is who they are. But we we you know,

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Speaker 3: I think I think in Saint Louis, you know, and

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Speaker 3: this applies to everybody. I'm not dogging fans, there's almost

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Speaker 3: this tendency to just kind of like, okay, they you know,

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Speaker 3: they didn't have a good series against Kansas City, at

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Speaker 3: least what you know with It's like everybody's like, oh

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Speaker 3: the other shoe about the drop type thing. I think

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals when they lose a series, but we sort

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Speaker 3: of we almost minimize the fact that they've had so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're reading my mind. Shocker, because I

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Speaker 2: struggle with this a little bit. The Cardinals had that

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Speaker 2: of here they go aggressing to their met and the

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Speaker 2: real Cardinals are here, and I thought, well, they just

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Speaker 2: won eight of their last ten series and they tied

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Speaker 2: one of those, So really nine out of ten successful

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Speaker 2: happen over the course of a one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: two game season. I think we're being a little dramatic.

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Speaker 2: And the Royal series didn't go much better. But look,

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Speaker 2: there's a doubleheader in there. It is really hard to

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Speaker 2: win both games of a doubleheader. I know the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: have done that a couple times, but that does not

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Speaker 1: And came in and you know, it was like the

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Speaker 2: Falling, you know, the pitching. Here comes the regression. Matthew liberatory,

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Speaker 2: he is who he is. That was his first bad start,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's why we're a little hesitant to accept that

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Speaker 2: good things are happening here. But my argument there, especially

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Speaker 2: is I actually think the average is a series like this,

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Speaker 2: Are we ready to say that?

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Speaker 3: You know, you and I did this a couple three

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Speaker 3: they lost three three out of five series, two in

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Speaker 3: they've they've come back to earth. Now what now they

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Speaker 3: they've all had patches where they're terrible. They all, they've all,

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Speaker 3: it stinks a couple series. Everybody does that, everybody.

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Speaker 2: So literally, the Phillies got set by the Pirates this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Are we ready to say the Phillies are not a

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I didn't even realize that. And then the other

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Speaker 3: because number one, First of all, the Cardinals are very

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Speaker 3: Remember when the Cardinals got home from they had that

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Speaker 3: So I gotta admit, though, I'm not being a hypocrite.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna same way. I was the same way.

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Speaker 3: I thought, maybe, like, well, they'll probably yeah, maybe they'll

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Speaker 3: I think maybe we need to give the fellows a

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Speaker 3: I tend to have a little bit of an overreaction

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Speaker 3: I don't like it. It's also a good sign because

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Speaker 3: it means that I expect more from them, and we

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Speaker 2: They are, They've I think they've earned this kind of again.

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Speaker 2: I know when you've had trust issues with his organization,

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Speaker 1: I certainly understand you have this. You've been guarded. I

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Speaker 2: A here and after the Rangers series sucked and they

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Speaker 2: Then you're all of a sudden looking at the Los

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Speaker 1: They could not let up.

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Speaker 2: And that was so true because while the Cardinals didn't

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Speaker 2: That's a sign of a good team that they came

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Speaker 2: They fought, They took two out of three, and even

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Speaker 1: Sure, but look how many good teams do the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's look at the records between the two

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Speaker 2: right now, Bernie at the Dodgers are thirty nine and

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Speaker 2: That's not that far apart from each other. So the ironically,

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Speaker 1: No, of course not.

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Speaker 2: But when I'm looking at the National League, do I

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Speaker 1: The competitive team bucket? I do, I very much, do

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Speaker 3: And yeah, one more point to add, and this is

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Speaker 3: even the Cardinals loss today, but coming into today, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Mets and the Yankees. They were. They have they

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Speaker 2: We're declaring this five fifty two pm Central Time Sundays.

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Speaker 2: You may say, Louis Cardinals are a good baseball team.

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Speaker 3: They got, they got they got another test though Toronto

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Speaker 1: Ollie Marble, everything looked good.

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Speaker 1: Saw him?

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Speaker 1: That thing is magical. Give people what they.

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Speaker 3: Because that really it was a victory because he saved

437
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Speaker 3: the bullpen with Toronto coming in. But it was a

438
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Speaker 3: victory also because he earned credibility even though he's the

439
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Speaker 3: losing picture in the game. He earned credibility as a

440
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Speaker 3: young starter because he was a total pro. It's like, Okay,

441
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 3: these are the Dodgers they're getting wax, I better change

442
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Speaker 3: some things up and approach this different, and he did.

443
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Speaker 3: This is a kid, I mean, this isn't an experienced

444
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Speaker 3: major league starting pitcher. So I was very impressed by

445
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Speaker 3: the way he adjusted on the fly.

446
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Speaker 2: Same and this is how we evaluate under Kiwante might

447
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Speaker 2: be liberatory, right, if their starts are going walking to

448
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: begin the outing, how do they adjust? And you know,

449
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: Livy especially has been able to do a really nice

450
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Speaker 2: job of that. But with macgree this is the first

451
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: time that we really seen him at the major league

452
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Speaker 2: level have to do that, and that game could have

453
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Speaker 2: gotten really out of hand. I mean, it could have

454
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Speaker 2: been six seven, nothing after three innings if he didn't

455
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Speaker 2: do that. So that to me shows where he is

456
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Speaker 2: as an early major league caliber starter. Look, I know

457
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 2: Michael McGreevey does not have anything left to prove in Memphis.

458
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Speaker 1: He should be on the major league club.

459
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Speaker 2: We all know this. The Cardinals know this, he knows this,

460
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: we know why he's not. And we're not going to

461
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Speaker 2: rehash the say margament we had alive spring training because

462
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Speaker 2: I do. While I don't lug it, I do understand it,

463
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Speaker 2: and I do ultimately think it's the right call for

464
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Speaker 2: the organization. But in terms of what's next for Michael mcgreeby,

465
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Speaker 2: I can see him taking his immediate.

466
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Speaker 1: Future at least one more spot start this month.

467
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be any time in

468
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Speaker 2: the next week or so, because the Cardinals on June

469
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Speaker 2: sixteenth have their one off day this month, so there

470
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Speaker 2: is a way to keep the projected five your five

471
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Speaker 2: starters on.

472
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Speaker 1: Their six day schedule using that off day.

473
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Speaker 2: But after that off day, the next scheduled off day

474
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Speaker 2: is not July third, So I believe this is my speculation, but.

475
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Speaker 1: It makes sense somewhere.

476
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Speaker 2: Between June sixteenth and July third, we will see Michael

477
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Speaker 2: McGreevy in the same role again, the same spot start.

478
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Speaker 2: But to me, it seems like the Cardinals that's how

479
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Speaker 2: they're gonna use him, that's how they're gonna keep him

480
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Speaker 2: in the majors.

481
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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's gonna be on the major league roster

482
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Speaker 1: all the time.

483
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Speaker 2: In fact, I would not be surprised if he's optioned

484
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Speaker 2: on Monday just to bring in a new bullpen arm.

485
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Speaker 2: Because the Cardinals aren't spots of through fifty pitches right,

486
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Speaker 2: They'll be down to six bullpen arms.

487
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Speaker 1: That's not gonna fly.

488
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Speaker 2: So if the Cardinals do option McGreevy tomorrow, I still

489
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Speaker 2: think we see him at least one more time this

490
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Speaker 2: month and then who knows from there. But again, McGreevy

491
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Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to prove in the minors.

492
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Speaker 1: He should be at the majors. He's not right now

493
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Speaker 1: because of the lack of depth issue.

494
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Speaker 2: But I think the way that they're using him right now,

495
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Speaker 2: they're alling Marble and Dusty Blake, are finding ways where

496
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Speaker 2: he can come help them win.

497
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Speaker 1: It's smart and hopefully.

498
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Speaker 2: Soon well not hopefully soon, because I would mean someone

499
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Speaker 2: is hurt, but hopefully we'll get to see Michael McGreevy

500
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Speaker 2: in some capacity as a regular starter going forward right now,

501
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: although using him as a spots start I think makes

502
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Speaker 2: sense for all parties, including McGreevy, and I'm excited to

503
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Speaker 2: see what he does when he does take that next one,

504
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 2: or whenever that is.

505
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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this because I'm curious, and

506
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Speaker 3: I know everyone watching us, listening to us, and thank

507
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Speaker 3: you very much. As always, I know that this is

508
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 3: on the minds of the masses. So let me ask

509
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Speaker 3: you this. How long do they stay with Polante. He's

510
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: got a five eight er eight his last night starts.

511
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Speaker 3: More problematic than that, I don't have the stats. I

512
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Speaker 3: ask people to trust me because I'm all over this stuff.

513
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: He is. He is statistically one of the worst pitchers

514
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: in the major leagues starting pitching the major leagues. In

515
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: his performance against right handed batters, they're just crushing them.

516
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 3: He's almost I'm going to I'm gonna exaggerate it, but

517
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: he at times he's almost defenseless against them. If that continues,

518
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: how how long can you stick with that because you

519
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: face a lot of right handed hitters. You know you can't.

520
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: There's no way for him to duck right handed batters

521
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: right The numbers are terrible and they are what they are.

522
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: And then there's a also, Matthew Libator, And I'm gonna

523
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: get differ to you on this one because you were

524
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: down there talking to everybody. But I'm glad that what

525
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: appeared to be a big time scare the Cardinals are

526
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: minimizing and saying everything's fine. Libby said, everything's fine, But

527
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: I think we all want to see evidence of that,

528
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: you know, not that anybody's lying, not that anybody's lying.

529
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: I really don't think anyone's think so. But still his

530
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 3: next time out, you know you were going to be wondering, Okay,

531
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: what's up? Is he going to get in sync this

532
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: time or is he going to maintain his velocity? So

533
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: my point is there are Polonte, especially, there's a rotation

534
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: spot that is very wobbly right now. And Polonte starts

535
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: against the Blue Jays tomorrow night, He's scheduled to very

536
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: very wobbly. So to play the devil's advocate, how could

537
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: they stay with him if nothing gets better? When they

538
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: have a guy like McGreevy who's earned a lot of

539
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: respect up here already, but keeping him down, Like, at

540
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: what point do they reconsider that? Do you think this

541
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: is a.

542
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: It's a great question because this brings our theme of

543
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: the year, runway verse results back into play. If you're

544
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: playing for results right now on June eighth, which there's

545
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: honestly not really that much of a reason to I

546
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: think maybe you're having a different discussion. But this season,

547
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: for as successful as the Cardinals have been in the

548
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: win loss column, remains focused on Runway. So they're going

549
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: to give onre Polante an extended look. They're same with

550
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: Matthew Libert where we know this and that meant good

551
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: or bad.

552
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: He's staying in.

553
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: The rotation because we need to figure out what he has. So, yes,

554
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: the last month for Polante has not been great. It's

555
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: been frustrating. He's frustrated about it. We saw the results

556
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: in a it was Texas, right, all the day, all

557
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: the time, one together. Okay, we saw the results in

558
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: Texas and no, do you know he's not happy with that.

559
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: But for the Cardinals, is it really fair for Polante's

560
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: long term career and what they need from him long

561
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: term to yank him after a month?

562
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: Probably not. It's it's complicated because it's pitcher.

563
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: You get one start every five six days, and very

564
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: much the team result hinges on how a starting pitcher does.

565
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: So I understand that.

566
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: But in a season that was designated about runway and opportunity,

567
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 2: they're going to continue giving Polante some until they have

568
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: to make a choice between runway and results.

569
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: Right now, they still don't have to.

570
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: The one thing I would say is that you know,

571
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: earlier in his career, you know, when he came up

572
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: to the Cardinals. One of the reasons why they liked

573
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: him in the bullpen a first because he was very

574
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: good against left handed batters, but they also realized that

575
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: he was ironically, because he's a righty pitcher, he was

576
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: vulnerable to right handed batters. And for a time they

577
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: kind of fixed that. In fact, was when he took over,

578
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: when he got a rotation spot. From May twenty ninth

579
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: to the end of the season last year, he did

580
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: a nice job of neutralizing right handed batters. They did

581
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: some damage, but it wasn't like it was a route.

582
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't like they were beating him up. So I'm

583
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: not sure what's happened here. They're killing his four seam fastball.

584
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: I did a lot of numbers on that. Just trust me,

585
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: they're killing his four seam fastball. But this year, because

586
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: I looked it up, Yeah, I can multitask, even doing

587
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: live believe, even doing a live recording right handed batters.

588
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: This year, hitting three hundred with a three sixty four

589
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: on base percentage and a four ninety six slug eight

590
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: sixty oh ps, six home runs, five doubles in a

591
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: triple and he acts and he also walks. He doesn't

592
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: get much swing missing strikeout against him because they're just

593
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: crushing his four seam fastball. So my only thing is

594
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: that he sort of went through this earlier. And I

595
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: definitely get your point about the runway, and he had

596
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: to show this year that he could do what he

597
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: did last year because he was a very pleasant surprise

598
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: last year. So I'm just wondering He's like, this is

599
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: a this is a question for Dusty Blake. But I'll

600
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: ask ally about a Tuesday when he's on KMOX, what

601
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: is it noon on Tuesday? I'll ask him, you know,

602
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: what is it about Palante where he that's where he's

603
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: sort of back to where he began in a way

604
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: where he's so vulnerable against right handed batters, because that's

605
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: a big problem.

606
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Speaker 2: I think it's a fair question and we'll see that.

607
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: We'll see that with Polante. There's early yes tomorrow against

608
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. Again they've had.

609
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: They've been on a year lately, so it should be

610
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: a good test for Polante. We'll see where he's going.

611
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: I get why this is a question, and I don't

612
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: disagree with the sentiments behind it, but also just knowing

613
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: how the organization is thinking and knowing the overall point

614
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: of this season was to figure out what you have

615
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: long term if Libby was struggling like this after a month,

616
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: would we be having the same conversation.

617
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Probably not.

618
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: And I think while Polanate has had an extended role

619
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: as a starter much longer than Libby, it's still the

620
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: same sentiment.

621
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Speaker 1: It's still we need to see what he is.

622
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: We need to give them the opportunity to bounce back

623
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: and figure things out at the major league level, because

624
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: I too say similar with the Greevy, don't think Polante

625
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: has anything left to prove in Triple A. I don't

626
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: think we know who he is as a Triple A pitcher.

627
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: We need to know who he is as a major

628
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: league pitcher, and part of that is figuring out how

629
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: to make those adjustments when things aren't going well, Very

630
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: similar to offensive players.

631
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: So that's where I think there are Burnie out. We'renna

632
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: come back to you with one more segment.

633
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: Good good discussion, good discussion.

634
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah I like that one because I can see both

635
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: sides of it. But we'll do one more. We'll get

636
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: you ready for the Blue Jay Series. After a quick

637
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: message from Arena Club, I just want to.

638
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: Say before Arena Club, if you were trying to very

639
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,320
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640
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,080
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641
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,400
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642
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: but I'm glad we have Arena Club now because it's

643
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: a one stop shop for everything card related.

644
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760
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645
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,480
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646
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040
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647
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648
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Speaker 4: out Arena Club. Go get after it.

649
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: You heard them, go get after it all right, Bernie.

650
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: As we're heading to another week, we'll have three against

651
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays and then four in Milwaukee, my favorite

652
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: road city.

653
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Speaker 1: You can't wait for that? What are you looking at?

654
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: What's what's as a player that you're monitoring Nolan Gorman?

655
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: And again I say that without looking ahead to seeing

656
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: who the Blue Jays are scheduled to start uh in

657
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: the series. But Nolan Gorman has been doing really, really,

658
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: really well. I mean, whether you want to talk about

659
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: his last ten or eleven games, but his numbers are

660
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: very good and he's had some big hits. How many

661
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: times you and I have talked about this here on

662
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: Cardinal Territory, He has made major, major improvement in his

663
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: plate discipline. Strike out total down, chase rate way down,

664
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: swinging mis rate way down. And he had to slow

665
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: up his bat a little bit, not to be so

666
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: jumpy and ferocious. He had just stay within himself to

667
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: make that plate discipline work. So he wasn't really doing

668
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: a lot of damage. But now he's starting to. He's

669
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: starting to take what he learned with Brent Brown about

670
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: plate discipline and the way he's got to approach his

671
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: at bats. But now the bang is starting to come.

672
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: Now the are starting to come, and I think especially

673
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: with this offense at times sagging a little bit, they

674
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: need they need, you know, an infusion or a transfusion,

675
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: whatever the proper word is there. They need another guy.

676
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: They just need another guy to start, you know, cranking

677
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: some big hits and hitting for power. And Jordan Walker,

678
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: you know, was he had found a lot. He had

679
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: found a lot, and he was still striking out too much,

680
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: but boy was he just blasting baseballs. So Gorman is

681
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: starting to do that now. And that's a pretty scary

682
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: thought for opponents if if these two guys get going

683
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: at the same time. So Gorman's first up, while we

684
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: wait for Walker to get back. And uh, this is

685
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: a big week for the Cardinals. They all are because

686
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: Toronto's a good club, Milwaukee has been on a roll,

687
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: and they're getting pitching back so these and it's a

688
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: four game series, which are always tough. So I'm really

689
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: curious to see how this will play out this week

690
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: because it's going to be an interesting week. If the

691
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: Cardinals go three and four, No, I'm not going to

692
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: be I won't be sitting here next week and saying, oh,

693
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: well see they they can't sustain theirs And I'm not

694
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: going to overreact to that. Well maybe if they go

695
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: one and.

696
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: Six and six we can never react.

697
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, deal, But it's like this is the Cardinals have

698
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: so many checkpoints and this is another one. And it's

699
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: not that I doubt that they're a good team, because

700
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: we talked about that they are a good team and

701
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: their record against other good teams shows that. But the

702
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: Cardinals all season long, locally and nationally, people are going

703
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: to be keeping an eye on. I'm still wondering if

704
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: it's for real.

705
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's fair because of the hole that they

706
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: put themselves in two seasons ago, because of their weird

707
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: ass off season because of their transition plan. I'm not

708
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: saying I get it, again, I do I get it.

709
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: I would probably feel a little bit of the same

710
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: way if I was a fan. But seeing this team

711
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: every day, seeing the buy in, which I know is

712
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: like kind of a tired cliche phase a phrase.

713
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say it if I didn't see it.

714
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Seeing the work that Alling Marble is done, seeing the

715
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: clubhouse get behind him, and seeing most importantly, these young

716
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: players start to believe in themselves. I mean it's it

717
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: gives me optimism that this summer might be a lot

718
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: more fun than we envisioned.

719
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Also, is that a younger hat?

720
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: It is? Yeah, you told me.

721
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: I would have worn my younger shirt. We could have matched.

722
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: Because I you know, I know some people say, what

723
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: is a senior citizen man wearing a younger Yet well,

724
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: first of all, I'm not young, but I am hungry

725
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: because all I do is say I'm so hungry, and

726
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm literally physically hungry too. Spaghetti's waiting downstairs. But but no,

727
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: But but also I got this like timing because Victor

728
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: Scott's really struggling right now. I'm not turning on them, see,

729
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: but I just don't believe.

730
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: So that's my pick.

731
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: That's actually who I'm picking to watch this next week

732
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: because the ups and downs are going to come offensively,

733
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: especially with Victor, who you know, never really profiled as

734
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: an offense for a centerfielder. His glove is going to

735
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: earn him plain time every single day. There is going

736
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: to be no optioning Victor Scott to Memphis. As many

737
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: of you have decided to DM me on Twitter if

738
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna if you plan on dming me that, do

739
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: yourself a favor, don't. There was not gonna be a

740
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: diminished playing time of Victor Scott as he struggles through this.

741
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: This is part of the plan.

742
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: This is part of the transition season, part of your

743
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: favorite buzzwords of the year. He is supposed to struggle

744
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: and figure it out. Same thing with Walker. It was

745
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: a brutal three weeks and then he started figuring things out.

746
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: You're starting to see the light hopefully with Nolan Gorman.

747
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: So same things apply with Victor Scott. The second how

748
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: is he going to adjust to players making adjustments to

749
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: him and so on and so forth.

750
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: It is that's.

751
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Baseball, you guys, and we're just gonna see it we're

752
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: seeing it a lot because there are so many young

753
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: players on this roster, but that's the whole point.

754
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: The other thing is like, again, I agree, listen, it's

755
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: it's a weird season because yeah, you know they're gonna

756
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna keep the runway in place, and they should.

757
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: That was the whole main objective of the season. So

758
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: the Cardinals better than a lot of people thought. So

759
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: now there's we all have to fight these impulses to like, oh,

760
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: you got to send this guy down, or you know,

761
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: you gotta bench this guy if he's off to a

762
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: as a bad couple of weeks. It's just not going

763
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: to happen. And some people say, well they benched Gorman,

764
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: they didn't Bence Gorman is more more more along the

765
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: lines of Burlesson deserved more playing time than he did.

766
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: And also just again, they see so much left handed

767
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: pitching that works against Gorman's bid for playing time. But

768
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: now some people would argue, and I think I would

769
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: be one of them. But if you ever want him,

770
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: if this this is major League Baseball knows you're top

771
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: heavy with left handed hitters. You can't hide a guy

772
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: that can be an impact hitter. He how is he

773
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: ever Gorman, how is he ever going to get better

774
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: against lefty pitchers unless he faces them? You know, that's

775
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: a great right, you know. So the runway is going

776
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: to be in place. And I would also I would

777
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: also say this, and I know that we have all

778
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: not me because I'm being sarcastic. Now we've all turned

779
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: Thomas to Jayce into Rogers hornsby Okay, Like I'm surprised

780
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: they don't have the hall of fame like the Bronze

781
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Bust outside the state him yet you know, just settle

782
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: down on that. That's my thing because his time's coming.

783
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: His time is coming. But it's really hard to sort

784
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: of have it all, like, you know, you can't when's

785
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: going to be the shortstop every day? Gorman will play

786
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: third when Aronatto can't. Uh, Donovan is really good at

787
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: second base, second here, So if j C was a

788
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: corner outfielder or he could play center field, I would say, yeah,

789
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: get him here. But he's not right. So, you know,

790
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: the Cardinals are still the island of misfit toys when

791
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: it comes to the roster. There's no question about it.

792
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: You know, they's still there, and there's even going to

793
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: be more of that coming. When you look at all

794
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: the left handed hitters they have in the system making

795
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: their way up here, come on Joshua Bias.

796
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Oh, he's going to tear it up.

797
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: He's a right handed power bat and he's he is

798
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: on all of a sudden, taken off right, and it's

799
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 5: I looked because I want to say, oh, but don't

800
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: tell me he's another left handed hitter outfielder, because I

801
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: couldn't remember.

802
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: This is like two am. This is my life. So

803
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm looking at him up last night at two am,

804
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: laying in bed, I'm like, oh, my gosh, is he

805
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: another left hand edding outfielder. Not that he's going to

806
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: be up here, like in an imminent basis, but he's

807
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: you know, he now has put himself on a much

808
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: faster track. And they got JJ weatherhold coming up, you know,

809
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 3: Chase Davis in the mix somewhere. It's all lefty, lefty, lefty, lefty, lefty.

810
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: So the argument for j C is, you know, you

811
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: need a better right handed bat than Barrero coming off

812
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: the bench. But I just don't see where j C

813
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: would get that much playing time. I just don't.

814
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: So what's the point.

815
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what's the point, what's Yeah, what's the point

816
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 3: of keeping him in there, keeping him up here to

817
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: sit on the bench. And so I'm just sort of

818
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 3: doing a little preemptive strike on the rogers hornsby talk.

819
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: You know, we got oh, you got to get you

820
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: got to get the next Rogers hornsby up here. You know, No,

821
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: actually you don't, you know, because okay, it's okay.

822
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Right now, should be time for Gorman and I hope

823
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: we see that, you know you were I mean, do.

824
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: People really want to pull the plug on Victor Scott?

825
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: Do they really want to pull the plug? How many

826
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: people pull the plug on Walker and Gorman? I mean,

827
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: we talked, everybody talked about this for months in the offseason,

828
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: what this was going to be all about. And just

829
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: because they're better and expected, it doesn't mean you just

830
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: bury these guys now.

831
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: That would be the worst thing. That'd be the worst

832
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: thing they could do.

833
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: And it's not like they have great options in the

834
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: minor leagues either.

835
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: They're they're not They're not.

836
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: Like, like, look at who they brought up right, No

837
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: disrespect to him. I mean, I know he's trying the loatti,

838
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: but you know they're starting him every day like me

839
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: and Kevin Wheeler of the you know cam Wix. We

840
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: were texting each other like, my gosh, he started how

841
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: many games in a row now? And Gorman's on the bench,

842
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: you know.

843
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I have a little bit of

844
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: an issue with.

845
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: I would like to see more Gorman and nothing against

846
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: Brian whose I just thought he'd be up here as

847
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: a twenty six man, right, but you know, he had

848
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: a really good at baut today and he did it

849
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: was wonderful. That was a very good at bat. So

850
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: maybe they'll turn things around. But I would like to

851
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: see more of Nolan Gorman this week. So Ollie Marvel,

852
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: if you're watching, you're not just no, just not that

853
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: someting to ask you about tomorrow for pregame. Uh, speaking

854
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: out of the future, we have a lot of fun

855
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: things coming up on Cardinal Territory. Both Andre Polante and

856
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: Matthew Libertoo are going to join the show early next week,

857
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: and Dusty Blake will be our second guest, that's right,

858
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: two guest episode week, yes, and then Berniane, I'll be

859
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: back with.

860
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: You, hopefully after the Brewer series. So let's look forward

861
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: to here on the show.

862
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: Lots of lots of lots of look forward to in

863
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: Cardinal Land as well.

864
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: I know, Bernie, and I certainly appreciate your support.

865
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: Bernie, got anything any fun projects up on STL Sports Central?

866
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: Long story, long long story, short stop. STL dot com

867
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: still exists, it's under a different name. There's some station

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Speaker 3: in radio station in Boston. Because we were using the

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Speaker 3: turn you know, sports Hub STL, they called themselves the

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Speaker 3: Hub and some I didn't realize that gave you international

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Speaker 3: rights to use the PIP.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Bernie. I think I know of a

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Speaker 2: certain other hub that's much more popular.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right, So yeah, So

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Speaker 3: rather than give money to lawyers, Dave Green, who runs

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Speaker 3: it up, just said we're going to change the name.

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Speaker 3: And they are actually there. There used to be a

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Speaker 3: STL Sports Central and people at our place actually own

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Speaker 3: the name, so they just flipped it to that. So, uh,

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Speaker 3: five five videos a week, five columns a week for me,

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Speaker 3: plus I jump in on Randy Characters show, and they

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Speaker 3: have shorts for my videos. I'm all over the place.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you thanks for letting me plug that

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Speaker 3: and let people know where they should go. Don't be

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Speaker 3: confused by the name.

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Speaker 1: Change, same same site, different name, but here are Cardinal Territory.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna stick with you.

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Speaker 2: And you can read all about Michael McGreevey what's next

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Speaker 2: for him on the Athletic that will be out tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, and hopefully lots of fun stuff ahead for

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals. So Bernie, thanks as always for doing this.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get out of Bush Stadium. I've been

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Speaker 2: here for entirely, way too long this week, and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know what's on my agenda.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so excited to go home. You know.

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Speaker 3: They turned the light out on you.

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Speaker 2: I know. I'm actually I don't I don't even think

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be here. I don't Cardinal pr If

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Speaker 2: you're watching this, sorry, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just need a quiet place. Yeah, Bernie, Thanks is always.

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Speaker 2: Courting Territory subscribers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll be back with you with Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Andre Polante Matthew Libertore two guests of Specials.

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Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun. Thanks for watching