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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Fam, Happy Friday. It's your boy, Jason McEntire.

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire for Friday, December tenth, the fund Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: football game. Uh. Following that up with a great podcast today,

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Speaker 1: got some really strong best bets. Got you all started

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Speaker 1: last night. I told you, I told you the Vikings

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Speaker 1: were gonna deliver, and they held on twenty nine nothing leading.

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Speaker 1: They nearly blow it. But any rate, we got a

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Speaker 1: great podcast today, a lot of best bets on the

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Speaker 1: NFL at the end of the podcast, and we have

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Speaker 1: a special guest today. He is one of the few

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Speaker 1: men that can claim to have worked with Belichick and

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Speaker 1: Sabin on that legendary Cleveland Browns coaching staff. His name

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Speaker 1: is Chris Landry. He's got a website, Landry Football. You

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Speaker 1: gotta check it out. A little old school NFL voice. Uh,

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Speaker 1: He's seen some battles, been in some trenches. Is a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback analysis. I think you guys will enjoy the

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Speaker 1: conversation today with Mr Landry. But before we get to

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Speaker 1: that and the bets, holy hell, I mean, the Vikings

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Speaker 1: never make it easy, do they ever? Never? Ever? This

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Speaker 1: is like the story of their season. Every game except

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Speaker 1: one has been a one score game. You just you

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Speaker 1: don't see this often. Twenty nine nothing lead your twenty

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Speaker 1: nine nothing in the third quarter and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: a full on meltdown. There's typical interception, there is I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing defensively. Uh, special teams has

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Speaker 1: been a disaster for the Vikings. A and a missfield goal,

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Speaker 1: first half. Pittsburgh ended up with four fifty eight I'm sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh get it up with three seventy five yards five

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Speaker 1: point four yards per play, and that's doing nothing for

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Speaker 1: two and a half quarters, a hardcore rally, and they

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Speaker 1: nearly pull it out the tight end friar mouth who

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Speaker 1: I have in fantasy? Are you already scored? So I

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Speaker 1: did not want this one because I bet on the game,

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Speaker 1: told you guys about it last night. Has the ball

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Speaker 1: of the defensive backs, and just a big exhale, because listen,

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Speaker 1: when you're up twenty nine nothing and maybe you're like

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Speaker 1: me and you've already spent that money on Christmas presents. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just I felt confident about the Vikings. They look

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Speaker 1: great as expected. Tomlins group unprepared. They're not used to

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football. Uh, short week after the rivalry game

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Speaker 1: and they came out doing nothing. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: But the Vikings, this is what they do. They let

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Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer's team is just not buttoned up. I will say,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Dalvin Cook. I'm gonna get a playoff, sorry,

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Speaker 1: a fantasy league where to get to the playoffs, I

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Speaker 1: entry fee for the league, so I kind of care

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Speaker 1: about this one. Dalvin Cook thirty five points, Friarmouth Moves,

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Speaker 1: and luckily I'm facing Jonathan Taylor who's on a bye week.

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Speaker 1: So I was texting my buddy who I'm facing. H

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Speaker 1: he has Calvin Ridley, he has Jonathan Taylor, both on

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Speaker 1: their bis toa who has been well for him. He's

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Speaker 1: also want to buy, but you don't care about my

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Speaker 1: You will hear about Ceedee Lamb later in the Best

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Speaker 1: bet Um. But really nice win for the Vikings. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I know some people, uh were chirping at me. Are

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Speaker 1: you watching the Lakers? What the hell's with the Lakers?

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Speaker 1: You were defending them? Blah blah blah. It's sending me

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Speaker 1: all these messages. I'm like, I did bet on the

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Speaker 1: the first quarter and they're rolling, and you're like Chris

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Speaker 1: Grizzlies on the back to back. No, John Moran, all right,

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Speaker 1: was the usual late night shenanigans by the Laker fans online.

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Speaker 1: about the Lakers. Stop sending me messages about Anton Davis stinks.

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Speaker 1: without further ado, let's get to our guests. Chris Landry

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Speaker 1: of Landry football dot com. Jason likes to think he

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Speaker 1: let's welcome into straight fire A big football guy for

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Speaker 1: a football Friday. Chris Landry runs and operates landry football

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Speaker 1: dot Com. You know, he's a coach, scout, at admin.

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Speaker 1: He's worked at all three levels. And uh, I saw

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Speaker 1: it in your bio, Chris, you work with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: year without Brady. But I don't think, as I said,

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Speaker 1: like somebody like Detroit wins it if Brady's over there.

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Speaker 1: So I just kind of pushed back on the well,

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Speaker 1: this guy is more important that that. There's an such thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like a chain, Chaine, what do you mean, you

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Speaker 1: just you can't have a team. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: a team, you know, there's no there's some some things

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Speaker 1: that are bigger priority because they're harder to find. I

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Speaker 1: think a Brady is harder to find than even putting

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Speaker 1: together all the talent that Tampa has. But as I said,

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Speaker 1: you take put Brady on a bad team, they're not

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Speaker 1: they're probably not going to the playoffs, much less the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But if you put Tampa with that same

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Speaker 1: team with Jamis Winston, which we saw they're not even

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Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, you put Brady on it and

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Speaker 1: they win a super Bowl. So that tells you Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's pretty dog on important, the players that players around

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Speaker 1: him pretty dog on important. So I know that's not

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Speaker 1: a great you know, uh to fitting an argument, because

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Speaker 1: there's no there's no right answer to that question. In

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Speaker 1: my view, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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Speaker 1: I do a mock draft for Fox Sports, and they

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Speaker 1: had me submit one yesterday, and again we're far out there.

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Speaker 1: Process is barely even started. You've been doing the combine

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Speaker 1: in the draft like we're way early on this. But

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Speaker 1: I'm curious where you are on quarterbacks for the draft

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Speaker 1: because I think many would argue right now that nobody

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Speaker 1: has distinguished themselves as the clear he's gonna go number

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Speaker 1: one overall, even though the Lions and the Texans badly

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback. Who do you have number one? Right now?

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Speaker 1: And I get that the process is still underway, but

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Speaker 1: who do you have number one? Yeah, there's not anyone

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Speaker 1: that's distinguished himself. Uh, there's a bit of a fallacy

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Speaker 1: of this guy's moving up the draft board moving down.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing. Teams don't set their draft boards

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Speaker 1: to the spring. So the biggest thing that people need

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Speaker 1: to understand about evaluating any player, including quarterbacks, is that

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Speaker 1: you have to it's a process of studying them. And

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Speaker 1: just because the season is pretty much over in college,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean the tape stops because you can't look

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Speaker 1: at every play of every player during the course of

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Speaker 1: the week as the season unfolds. It's because I like

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Speaker 1: to say it's like running on a treadmill. During the season.

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Speaker 1: You can run, but you're not going anywhere. But when

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Speaker 1: the season's over, it's like you know, jogging in the park.

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Speaker 1: You gain ground. So when you're done with all the

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Speaker 1: film work in March and you get to the most

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Speaker 1: important thing we just talked about, studying the player, getting

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Speaker 1: the Noah player, that's gonna determine. So the way I

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Speaker 1: have them The way we do it in the league

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Speaker 1: is you have preliminary grades on guys and you just

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Speaker 1: stack them into areas. But but it's an incomplete it's

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Speaker 1: just kind of like a So it is not like

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Speaker 1: previous years where you've got some clear guys. There's some guys.

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Speaker 1: There's some guys that are I think have a chance

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Speaker 1: to be pretty good. There's some things I like about them,

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Speaker 1: but a lot more work to be done. There's really

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Speaker 1: not guys that in the preliminary grade that I would

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Speaker 1: have in the top half of the first round at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, um, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about quarterbacks. That's the most overvalued position.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys with what we call six four grades,

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Speaker 1: which your high second round value. If you're six fourth

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Speaker 1: grade quarterback, which your second round value, you go in

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Speaker 1: first round because you have to. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: supply and demand thing. So that is this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the year of beware of taking the guy that

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Speaker 1: look great or look really good or maybe even great

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Speaker 1: in college. That has a lot of limitations, but due

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Speaker 1: to the importance of the position, and and with the

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Speaker 1: most recent c b A where you can get a

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Speaker 1: fifth year on a guy at a real low contract value,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to you're gonna take Matt Ryan. You gotta

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Speaker 1: love Matt Ryan because you're gonna pay Matt Ryan a

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Speaker 1: ton of money. You take Sam Bradford, you better love

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Speaker 1: them because you're gonna be spending through the roof. Now

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Speaker 1: not the case. You can tell Macom you can groom

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Speaker 1: them and you can move on from him, or you

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Speaker 1: can sign them along to the second contract. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you will, you know whatever, And everybody's got to

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Speaker 1: make a decision. The Browns have a make a decision

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Speaker 1: on Baker. Well, yeah, no, I would say, like the

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Speaker 1: Lamar getting I think he was the last pick or

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Speaker 1: pick in the first round. I think the Ravens traded

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Speaker 1: into the first round to get him, and that was

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Speaker 1: a genius move. You get that extra year, get the

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Speaker 1: extra you to evaluate him and to make a decision,

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Speaker 1: and you other people are thinking the same thing, and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to with the way the draft is situated.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to go to bed and give other

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Speaker 1: teams an opportunity to work a trade for the number

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Speaker 1: one pick in the second round. Let me ask about

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Speaker 1: this kid, Kenny pick it out of Pittsburgh, So I

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Speaker 1: didn't distinguish himself for for basically three years as a

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Speaker 1: starter in Pittsburgh and then takes that extra COVID year

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Speaker 1: and is it is a Heisman finalist? He had there

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Speaker 1: forty two touchdowns this year after thirty eight in the

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Speaker 1: last two and a half years, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's turning twenty four next June, so he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an older, mature rookie. Is this guy similar

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Speaker 1: to a Joe Burrow who could not get on the

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Speaker 1: field Ohio State transfers to l s u is like, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe a seventh round guy, and then boom becomes a

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Speaker 1: first round pick because of that incredible year that he had.

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Speaker 1: Is that too much for Kenny Pickett here? Well, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Joe Barrow won't go number one, but he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that is a say, a better version of of Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins coming out of Michigan. Stay. Um, he's uh. I

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Speaker 1: think got a good chance. Kurt went in the fourth

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Speaker 1: round same year that they the Redskins took RZ three

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Speaker 1: that year than Redskins. Um. I think Pickett will go

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Speaker 1: high for the reasons that we mentioned different, somebody will

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Speaker 1: probably take him in the first even though he's may

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Speaker 1: not get a first round grade. That that's somebody's gonna

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Speaker 1: take them because of the need of the spot and

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Speaker 1: for the reasons that we mentioned. He is UM. He

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Speaker 1: is very bright. I think Mark Whipple, who's just left

545
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Speaker 1: this week for Nebraska UM to take over their offense

546
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Speaker 1: coordinator job leaving Pitt, did a great job with him.

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Speaker 1: Mark has been around a long time. Kenny's a good

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Speaker 1: field vision. I think he throws a good ball, He's

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Speaker 1: very accurate, he gets the ball out on time, UM,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a really good one

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Speaker 1: and he very well could be the number one quarterback

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Speaker 1: coming off the board. Where that is, you know, we'll depend,

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Speaker 1: But that's that's because there's not that elite guy that

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Speaker 1: would normally go ahead of him. So everyone that you

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Speaker 1: would put into that category is kind of m you know,

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Speaker 1: as as you like to say, um, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a first pick, the tenth pick pick, but not every

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Speaker 1: first pick or tenth pick is equal from year to year.

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Speaker 1: And so in this backdraft, the grades um there in

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Speaker 1: my mind at least, and again I just said I'm

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Speaker 1: not finished, dounn. But but likelihood is I probably won't

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Speaker 1: have a six five grade or higher amongst the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Um probably probably six four is gonna be the eyes.

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Speaker 1: But even though that's high second round value, anybody with

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Speaker 1: a six fourth grade quarterback, Joe Flacco, any of those

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Speaker 1: guys are all going in the first round. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask Chris again, we're early December. Who do you

568
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Speaker 1: have as your highest grade in so far in the process.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a highest grade. There's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys in clusters. There's just fun. You know, Pickett would

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Speaker 1: probably be in that group amongst them, but that probably

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Speaker 1: you know, throw him out there. But there is no

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Speaker 1: highest grade. I mean, I think there's you know, there's

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Speaker 1: when you know a little bit more about one than

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Speaker 1: the other. To this point, it's kind of unequal. So

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Speaker 1: you say, to say he's definitively better than Matt Corral

577
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Speaker 1: is a little bit unfair to either one of them.

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Speaker 1: But I would say that that Kenny would probably at

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Speaker 1: least off of the film grading alone, probably just a

580
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Speaker 1: tad better. But those two guys intrigued me the most

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Speaker 1: among the guys with some of the intangible stuff finish,

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Speaker 1: leadership skills that I think have a chance to be,

583
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Speaker 1: you know, fairly decent starters in the league at some point.

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Speaker 1: I I love Corral. The problem is we've seen him

585
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Speaker 1: with Lane Kiffin, dynamic offense, smart, sharp, new stuff, you know, Chris.

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Speaker 1: If he goes to the Houston Texans, the way that

587
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: team is coached right now, it's going to be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: You know. I feel I'll feel bad for any quarterback

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Speaker 1: who goes there, and I hope you don't have any

590
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Speaker 1: friends there. But you're watching the Texans offense, they're like

591
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Speaker 1: an expansion level team. Well, anybody anybody that goes anybody

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Speaker 1: that goes to uson Texans, I mean, Trevor Lawrence is

593
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: going to Jacksonville struggling. That's the whole point. Um. So

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Speaker 1: if you I mean there's a reason why mac Jones

595
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Speaker 1: is so much better, it's because he is very cerebral

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Speaker 1: and he's got a good team around case point of

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Speaker 1: what we just talked about with Brady. So the whole

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Speaker 1: you can't you can't downgrade a player because who he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go to. That's not scouting, that's just draft talk.

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Speaker 1: So it is it's it's the whole point is the

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Speaker 1: problem there is the organization and the inability to put

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Speaker 1: good talent. And you know, I would make the case

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Speaker 1: that none of these guys are going to really hit

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Speaker 1: for them. They're in dire need of a quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: their in dire need of a football team around a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, um, can you pickett um Tom Brady

607
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Speaker 1: deciding he wants to right into the sunset with a

608
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Speaker 1: cowboy hatt and jeans with the Houston Texans would not

609
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Speaker 1: look good with the Houston texts. Well. But the interesting

610
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Speaker 1: thing is, like, for instance, the Pittsburgh Steelers Chris Uh,

611
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Speaker 1: the infrastructure there is really good, the offensive coordinator and

612
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: we'll see, but the skill position players are awesome. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think whoever goes to Pittsburgh in the draft, assuming

614
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Speaker 1: they don't go to Garoppolo and free agency, we'll have

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Speaker 1: a better chance than say, you know, the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans franchises where you know they're there. I

617
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Speaker 1: don't want to be harsh, but they're just bad franchises

618
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Speaker 1: that turn the crap, of course, but that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: the player better. That makes a situation better. Yeah, that's

620
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Speaker 1: a difference. So it's not like, well, this guy is

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Speaker 1: not any good and you know that. Well, No, the

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Speaker 1: player is the player. What he's grated is he's grated.

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Speaker 1: How good he's going to be is going to be

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Speaker 1: relative that to what's around him. So, yeah, Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Jet skuy. Zack Wilson goes there. There's

626
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Speaker 1: all this hype about him. Um, we know he can

627
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: sling it, good athletes, cerebral guy, and he's not playing great. Um,

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Speaker 1: it didn't help that he started out the season against

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Speaker 1: some of the best defenses or the best defensive coaches

630
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Speaker 1: in the league. Belichick. Um, but he struggled early. I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not down on Zack Wilson at all. Where

632
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Speaker 1: are you on him? You know, midway through his his

633
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: rookie season, same thing. The guy, you build a team

634
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: around him, he'll be very, very good as a starter.

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Speaker 1: If you do what the Jets typically do, they'll be

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Speaker 1: They'll they'll be talking about how bad he is and

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Speaker 1: they'll be redoing it again. More quarterbacks get ruined in

638
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Speaker 1: this league, then get poorly drafted. It's how you develop

639
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Speaker 1: them that's what's really important. Um. A lot of guys

640
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: are really talented and really capable, but he just hit it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the answer to the Zach Wilson question is

642
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: less to do about Jack Wilson. He has to do

643
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Speaker 1: about the talent around and now Sam Donald would be

644
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Speaker 1: the counter to that. A lot of people loved him

645
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Speaker 1: in the traits coming out of USC. He goes to

646
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the Jets, Adam Gaines blah blah blah. Um. Then he

647
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Speaker 1: goes to Carolina and they start three and up. He's

648
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Speaker 1: got Joe Brady is his offensive coordinator, he's got McCaffrey,

649
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Speaker 1: and then the wheels fell off. Um, I don't where

650
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: are you on, Sam? The wheels fell off, offensive line

651
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Speaker 1: kit changed, McCaffrey's out, the defensive line's bad, so the

652
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Speaker 1: team's not. Let's good around him. Um. I'm not saying

653
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Speaker 1: that Sam Donald's an elite level, but we've seen Sam

654
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Speaker 1: play well or better when the teams around him not again,

655
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Philip Rivers. I mean, we go on and

656
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Speaker 1: on and on. Even the ones that we know are good,

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Speaker 1: that we know are really really good, like some that

658
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Speaker 1: are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, didn't have

659
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: very productive years when the team around them wasn't. It's good.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a good defense, you're gonna struggle

661
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Speaker 1: at quarterback because you're gonna constantly be behind and you

662
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Speaker 1: can't run your offense through the run game. You have

663
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Speaker 1: to constantly play from behind. You're gonna have a hard time.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, if you don't have weapons, you

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Speaker 1: don't have protection. Well, look, if you can't have very

666
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Speaker 1: good defense, you don't have good protection, and people can

667
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Speaker 1: tee off on you, and all all they have to

668
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Speaker 1: worry about is Russian the pastor and defending the past.

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Speaker 1: You could be the best quarterback in the league and

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Speaker 1: you construct. Patrick Mahomes is a is a dynamite, you know,

671
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: tremendous talent um and we've seen him have a lot

672
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Speaker 1: of success. In the Super Bowl. The offensive line with

673
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Speaker 1: other injuries had no shot. It was just like, well

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Speaker 1: what happened to him? Well, gee, Liz, he didn't take

675
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Speaker 1: you know, he just didn't wake up in a bad

676
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Speaker 1: mood or anything. He just the play around him. It's

677
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Speaker 1: the biggest part of it when you can you know,

678
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Speaker 1: learn this a lot from Bill Walsh. If a guy

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Speaker 1: can do it, and you see him do it, and

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00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: you see it fairly consistently, you know for stretches. I

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Speaker 1: think now. Bill always used to say, if a guy

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Speaker 1: can do it, it's your job to coach him to

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Speaker 1: do it all the time, or mostly all the time.

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Speaker 1: Some guys to me, not to disagree with the great

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Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, but sometimes guys just have a day in

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Speaker 1: a moment, in a situation. But but his point was,

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Speaker 1: if you see a guy that's capable of doing it, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: any other position, but specific to the quarterbacks, five, if

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Speaker 1: you can do it, you know that you've got the guy.

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Speaker 1: It's your job to give him every opportunity to do

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Speaker 1: it more consistently, with coaching, with development players around them.

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Speaker 1: And the biggest factor because people I love football, but

693
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Speaker 1: very few understand it from a coaching and scouting standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Look at it and say that quarterbacks are not any good.

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Speaker 1: He threw all these picks. Look at the stats. They

696
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Speaker 1: don't understand why the interception took place, what are the problems?

697
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Speaker 1: They don't understand protections, they don't understand route concept, they

698
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: don't understand what went wrong. And yes, the quarterbacks gonna

699
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: get too much credit and too much plane. But that's

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Speaker 1: why a lot of people get kind of put into

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Speaker 1: the category of their a bust or they're they're the

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Speaker 1: greatest of all time when when they've just done it

703
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Speaker 1: so quickly. It's anything in life, in any profession, it's

704
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Speaker 1: about consistency, doing it over time. But it's also the

705
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Speaker 1: case in life. You usually have to have good people

706
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Speaker 1: around you, but without it. You know, you know, some

707
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: things are very individualistic, golf, tennis, but football is not

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Speaker 1: that way. It is not that way even for the

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Speaker 1: very best and so um. You know, it's the It's

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Speaker 1: the thing that I've learned in almost forty years in

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Speaker 1: this business that sometimes things, a lot of times things

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Speaker 1: are not what they appear to be. Um. I tell

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Speaker 1: my son and daughter, you know, they're into sports. You're

714
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Speaker 1: not going to be good until you're consistent, and the

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Speaker 1: only way to get consistent is practice daily and work

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Speaker 1: on everything. But Chris, I'll wrap up with this. Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield one of the more controversial quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious a where you had him coming out and

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Speaker 1: be where you have him now after what is three

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Speaker 1: years in the league and he's looking for a big

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Speaker 1: money extension. Pretty much how I had him coming out.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had playmaking ability, but I thought he

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Speaker 1: was very inconsistent with the ball, would force the ball

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Speaker 1: a lot. Thought he could again extend plays, make plays,

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Speaker 1: and he's done that. I think they've done a really

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Speaker 1: good job with him. Kevin has Defanski has with building

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Speaker 1: a pretty good defense and a good running game when

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Speaker 1: the game has to go in his hands and he's

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Speaker 1: more inclined to force it and make bad reads. Still, um,

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Speaker 1: some of that can be improved. Some of that is

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Speaker 1: just the the aggressive nature of what he is. I

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Speaker 1: think he can get a little better. He not somebody

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Speaker 1: I'd be comfortable spending a ton of money on. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna ask forty Yeah, no, I mean that that type

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Speaker 1: of money would concern me. The issue is quarterbacks don't

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Speaker 1: get paid for what they're worth. Quarterbacks players get paid

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Speaker 1: for what are the other options if you don't sign?

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Speaker 1: So the issue is he may not be worth it.

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Speaker 1: It's the rising tide raises all ships. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: coaching salaries, it's player sALS. It's not about what this

741
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: guy's is not worth that um worth it? What his

742
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: play may not be worth it? But what are the

743
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Speaker 1: other If you've got another option, then you take that

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Speaker 1: other option. If you don't have that other option. You

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Speaker 1: end up saying, man, I I don't know. That's a

746
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Speaker 1: tough decision. Look, it is very easy to sit there

747
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Speaker 1: and say in Kansas City and say, let's get this

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Speaker 1: deal done. Yes, that's happened. That not so easy in Cleveland. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, well let's let's just quickly talk to it.

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Speaker 1: Since we're here on the Browns A Baker. So Jimmy

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00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: Garoppolo looks like he's gonna get shoved out for Trey

752
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Lance in San Franz. I think that's a mistake, but

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Speaker 1: it's it looks like we're headed there. Do you see

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Speaker 1: any other big name quarterbacks hitting the market in free agency?

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00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if Teddy Bridgewater excites you in the least. Um, no, no,

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Speaker 1: there's not. We just don't know what Aaron Rodgers just

757
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna do and how he's gonna do it. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know that that's worth discussing in the free agents

759
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: gonna want to go to Cleveland? Well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't know what Aaron's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's a free agent. But

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Speaker 1: there's no one because the minute I say there's no

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Speaker 1: one warrior. People said, what aout Aaron Argent? Well, I

764
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Speaker 1: don't know what Aaron Rodgers is gonna do. Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where he certainly would have his choice when

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Speaker 1: we have a picket. It would be an unusual circumstances

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Speaker 1: kind of like you know, along the lines of what

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Speaker 1: Peyton was able to do. Peyton was coming off the

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Speaker 1: neck injury, Drew Brees was coming off the shoulder injury.

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Speaker 1: This would be And I don't know that he's gonna leave.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that maybe that he might survive

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Speaker 1: it and somebody else may leave Green Bay. I don't know,

773
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Speaker 1: but no, I don't expect that. And certainly Teddy bridgewarder um,

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Speaker 1: Teddy bridgeworders a backup in this league that you can

775
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Speaker 1: win with to a point. But you know, of the two,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna spend big money, but you're

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Speaker 1: spending quite a bit of money for number two quarterbacks now,

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Speaker 1: so you know, Um, but Baker's gonna get Baker is

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Speaker 1: gonna get a real heavy deal. And and the market

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Speaker 1: dictates that, so somebody might pay it. Um, And it's

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Speaker 1: how about this for Garoppolo a year and Baker says,

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Speaker 1: I want thirty five. If you're Stefanski and you know

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Speaker 1: your offense, which is primarily run play action, do you

784
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: need to spend that extra ten MILLI on Baker could

785
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: get by with Garoppolo and then reinvest that money elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know the secondary or or the defensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you'd have to consider that personally. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be excited about Garoppolo personally, but I'd be excited about

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Speaker 1: saving ten million dollars. Uh, you know, that's about it.

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00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think they'd have a better chance on

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00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: the upside of Um. Look, I mean, you know, Garoppolo

792
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: is not the reason why that offense works in San Francisco.

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00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: It's the run game. Um, it's also the reason why

794
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: the Brons have gotten better the run game, you know.

795
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Speaker 1: But I do think of the two, Baker can make

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00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: more plays consistently in the passing game off schedule. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's worth an extra ten million, because

798
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make a lot of mistakes. But

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Speaker 1: to your to your point, is it worth the extra

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Speaker 1: ten mean, I'm not sure either one of them is

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Speaker 1: worth what they're going to get on the market, which

802
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: is why they get that money, because they're not enough

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Speaker 1: of them. It's it's like any form of business, it's

804
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: supply demand. There's more demand than there is supply. And

805
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: with the quarterback pool in this draft that we're just

806
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: talking about, it makes these guys even richer because you

807
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: start looking at the other options. You're thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we might have to bite the bullet and we might

809
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: have to with the increase in cap going forward, we

810
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: might have to make a tough decision and we might

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Speaker 1: make a decision and structure or contract where we can

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Speaker 1: get out for under it to three years from now,

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00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: so that maybe you stick with a a player of

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00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: that ilk and maybe you can find someone to replace

815
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: the Look the Niners, whether they have found them or not,

816
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: their goal was in the past draft with Trey Lance

817
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: to find the replacement. We'll see if they're right or not.

818
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: But that's what they did so they don't have to

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Speaker 1: pay gon Rop all the money because they presumably have

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00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: their guy now, whether they do or not, only time's

821
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna tell. But that was the plan anyway, so they

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Speaker 1: were in a position to do that. That's smarter on

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Speaker 1: their part. We'll see if they were smart in making

824
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Speaker 1: the decision that they made. All Right. He is Chris

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Speaker 1: Landry from Landry football dot com. Great stuff. Check out

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Speaker 1: his website follow him on social media. Chris, thanks a

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Speaker 1: lot for the time man, Thanks for having me. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. The best of luck at your podcast. Sounds

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Speaker 1: like it's going great, so thanks a lot for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris, Thank you. Take care of God bless

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Speaker 1: happy holidays to you. The only thing better than sitting

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Speaker 1: you do it. Here's your best bet, good good stuff

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Speaker 1: from Chris Landry Landry football dot com. You should check

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Speaker 1: out his site, Little old School Flavor. He's been around

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Speaker 1: the block. I love the Belichick Saban stories. Those are

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Speaker 1: gold gold, Jerry Gold. All right, let's get to NFL

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Speaker 1: best bets for this weekend. Week four team college football.

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Speaker 1: Last week it was incredible three oh and one, including

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Speaker 1: Alabama getting points Alabama on the money line. I tried

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Speaker 1: to tell you guys, don't go against Saban. Now I

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm done done, I tell you done going

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Speaker 1: against Belichick there on the by this week, and I'm

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846
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: doing it anymore. It's just not hazardous for my bank roll.

847
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: And before we get the picks, I'm gonna start with Survivor.

848
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: And you know, in hindsight, I probably should have saved Miami.

849
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I switched off Philly because of the change to Minshoe,

850
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: dumb because Minshew was fine at Miami covered for me.

851
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: But next week is a great spot for Miami. Up

852
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: against the Jets this week, and again I'm afraid to

853
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: look at next week. That's how rough the board is.

854
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: The games that are super close there are. The only

855
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: big spreads are teams that have burned. But again that's

856
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: next week. We gotta get through this week first. So

857
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: this week pretty obvious and Survivor and again a large

858
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: amount of money on the line, apparently two K to

859
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: the winner. Um, there's still twenty five people left entered

860
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: right about there. Anyways, I could go Seattle, but on

861
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: the road. And one of the quirkiest stats is teams

862
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: that have faced the Niners the following week or one

863
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: and eleven could just be an oddity, could be the

864
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: Niners are tough and physical, even with all those backups.

865
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't love Seattle in this spot. I like hiving

866
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: a teaser which I'll give out later. Tennessee an obvious choice.

867
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: They scare me. Man, this team just so limited offensively,

868
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: so many injuries. It probably could take Tennessee. I'm gonna

869
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: check because their schedule is easier. I've liked them way

870
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: more with A J. Brown. Ultimately, I'm going with the

871
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. I don't know if you guys have seen

872
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: this situation with the Lions, but they clearly partied like

873
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: rock stars after getting their first win over the Vikings.

874
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: Must have parted all Sunday, maybe Monday too, because half

875
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: the team is sick and has the flu, including it

876
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: looks like eleven starters miss practice Wednesday and Thursday. Goff

877
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback back at practice, which is always good. Um,

878
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: but Jared Goff is gonna be in cold weather in

879
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: the elements in Denver, and um, you know how his

880
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: history says he has not done great outdoors cold weather.

881
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: There was a memorable Chicago, I think a Sunday night

882
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: football game where the Rams were rolling and they just

883
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: absolutely golf melted and he was awful. I don't know

884
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: if the stats in front of you, but cold weather

885
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is just not good. So I'm looking Sunday,

886
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: no role wind high of fifty eight, low of twenty nine. Uh,

887
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: the game is in the let's see. I think it's

888
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: a late afternoon, so it'll probably be in the thirties

889
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: by the fourth quarter. Um, I just there. I don't

890
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: think there's any way possible Detroit wins this game off

891
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: winning their super Bowl, between the illnesses, the regression to

892
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: the mean after the big cover and I think I

893
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: guys have I've told you guys this. Like teams that

894
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: cover the spread one week versus teams that did not

895
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: cover the spread is sevent this season. Last week it

896
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: was four and one. Okay, Detroit covered last week, Denver

897
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: did not. So I'm taking Denver Foreshore in Survivor and listen,

898
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: if Teddy Bridgewater gets ruled out Saturday, I'll have to

899
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: give it some thought because Drew lock is awful. But

900
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I guess my backup would be Tennessee. I don't know.

901
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm considering the Saints as like a dire option only

902
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: because it looks like they're getting Kamara, two offensive line

903
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: starters back and I don't know what's going on the Jets.

904
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Elijah More looks like he's hurt. Not good for my

905
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: fantasy team, But I digress. Let me start with the teasers,

906
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: because you know, there's some really good teaser options. I mean,

907
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: you've got Seattle is in almost all my teasers, down

908
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: to one one and a half against Houston. Davis Mills

909
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: starting for the Texans looks like the rest of the season,

910
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: and he's quite bad Seattle. No Jamal Adams, he's done

911
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: for the year. That being said, I there's no scenario

912
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: where Seattle loses this game, right, I mean, I could

913
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: see it being close, maybe a field goal, but that's

914
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: why you tease it. So I like Seattle and all

915
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: my teasers. I like Tennessee as we talked about against Jacksonville.

916
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: I could see Tennessee really struggling with this one. But

917
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: they had their clunker, they had their bye week. It

918
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: looks like Julio Jones is probably gonna be a go

919
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: I can Jacksonville sounds like they packed it in And

920
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: did you see the Trevor Lawrence quotes, which doesn't sound

921
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: like he's happy that they keep pulling Robinson and out

922
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: of the lineup. It's been a rough year for Urban Meyer. So, um,

923
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: I tease Tennessee. I think you tossed the Saint ten

924
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: and teaser against the Jets. You guys know I'm a

925
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: Jet fan. Not a great spot for them last week.

926
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: I thought they could have showed well, and they did

927
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: for a half. But again, Sean Payton, really strong coach.

928
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: I think you have to have the Saints and teasers,

929
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: and lastly you gotta have the Chiefs and teasers. I'm

930
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: not taking the Chiefs straight up, but I mean these

931
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: are these are all really strong teaser legs. Um, I

932
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: guess from a straight up perspective games that I've already taken.

933
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I got the Cowboys, I don't. I don't see the

934
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: case for Washington. I could go long on you, but

935
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: like if you look at this hot four game win

936
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: streak for Washington. Yes, the win over Tampa was good,

937
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: but Brady had two early picks and they basically got

938
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: the ball in plus territory and we're able to capitalize.

939
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Look at the other wins. Carolina Panthers Cam's first start,

940
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, you've seen Kim got bench. The

941
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: following week, I couldn't throw the ball, they had a

942
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: two minute row with a chance to come back, and

943
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: it's like Cam's like, I don't know the plays. I

944
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: just got here, you know. And then they beat Seattle

945
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: where the Seahawks were still getting health and they had

946
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: looked bad for a long several weeks, even with Russ

947
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: returning early. And then last week they get the Raiders

948
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: who did not have Waller, don't have rugs. It was

949
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: basically Hunter renfro and Derek Carr and they lost Kenyan

950
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: Drake in the middle of the game broken ankle. So

951
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: it's like Washington has not seen an offense like Gallop

952
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: and Lamb and Cooper, and they're all healthy. Tony Pollard

953
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's a go. He's been he's got

954
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: some foot thing, plant our fasciitis. But the defense Mega

955
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: Gregory back Lawrence, who's on like a pitch count last week,

956
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: he looks like he's gonna be back fully Parsons. I like,

957
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I like Dallas here. Um they're the class of that division.

958
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: I I think Dallas, you know, thirty four twenties something

959
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: like that. Um, I for sure Dallas is one of

960
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: my sides in the contest. I'm also gonna lay it

961
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. Unfortunately three in the contest. There's two and

962
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: a halves out there. But Ravens just not ideal right now. Um,

963
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: the cornerback injuries, the struggling offense. Lamar Jackson has been

964
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: sacked more than any quarterback in the league. He's kind

965
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: of regressed this last five weeks. He's not looked good

966
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: at all. So I'm on Cleveland and I'm on the Niners.

967
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: Actually significantly. Big Joe Burrow hasn't really practiced this week

968
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: due to the hand injury. There is some chatter that

969
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's more serious. And listen, I know that. Um,

970
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, you've got the reporters like rap rap sheet

971
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: and schefter. They report what information they get. They're not

972
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: getting the information that pro betters get. You know, guys

973
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: who are putting six figures on games, hundred thousand, two

974
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on games, they're getting the best information.

975
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: And that's why this line moved from Bengals two and

976
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: a half at the open too, now Niners one and

977
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: a half. Now there's been no public news, but somebody

978
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: knows something. And I'm on the Niners here. I I

979
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: like that spot for them and the last one. As

980
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: much as I want to take Arizona against the Rams,

981
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm not taking it because I kind of like the

982
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Rams in this spot. But I'm not. I'm done going

983
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: against Arizona. They they killed me this year. The final,

984
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: the final game that I like, I'm gonna go. Are

985
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: you guys ready for this the Buffalo Bills. Yes, I

986
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: just had the Monday night. It was a tough loss.

987
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: Every square gambler I know is on Tampa Bay here.

988
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: Everyone remember I told you the strategy. Yeah, I just

989
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: ask a bunch of guys who aren't really sophisticated gamblers,

990
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: don't get big money. Who do they like? Everybody likes Tampa? Well,

991
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: I mean that Tampa Secondary has been beat up. They've

992
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: been taken through the woodshed by Dac who had like

993
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: fifty eight pass attempts, and uh, Jamis Winston before he

994
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: got hurt through the ball a ton with success. Trevor

995
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: Simeon came in and passed it all over him. Tampa.

996
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Carson Wentz had a good game against them

997
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: until the turnovers happened. And I think Josh Allen has

998
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: a lot of success in this one. I do think

999
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: we'll miss trade devious white in the secondary because you

1000
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 1: know Tampa's gonna have its way. Uh, Mulano against Gronk

1001
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: will be fun. But overall, I think Buffalo can certainly

1002
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: hang here. I don't expect them to win. But if

1003
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: I can get the three and a half, and it's

1004
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: three and a half in the contest almost everywhere else,

1005
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking it. Buffalo is a bit of a square play,

1006
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: So I mean on Buffalo getting three and a half. Um,

1007
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: the teasers I mentioned like Dallas a lot. I like

1008
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: Cleveland a lot. The other one I kind of like

1009
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: is Atlanta at three, not two and a half as much.

1010
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: But those are those are mine this weekend. I hope

1011
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: it's a profitable weekend. Everybody have a safe one. We'll

1012
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: talk to you Monday.