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Speaker 1: humbled and excited to be in these five star matchups.

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Speaker 2: Five star matchup.

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Speaker 1: Somebody leaving here with the lows not gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good evening.

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Speaker 2: Stealer Nation, how we do it? Well, that's good us too.

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Speaker 2: Our number two here of the Drive on the day

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Speaker 2: after Christmas, on a Friday, as we get ready for

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Speaker 2: week seventeen across the National Football League, Matt, we got

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Speaker 2: to talk some matchups. We got to talk some more

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Speaker 2: of your stats. And you know what I did before

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Speaker 2: we before I asked you a couple of specific matchup questions.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you this from your stats packet.

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Speaker 2: There's always some good stuff about time of possession and

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Speaker 2: here yeah, yeah, both of these teams did a really

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Speaker 2: good job of possessing the ball last week.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's trending, or at least both of.

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Speaker 2: These teams have kind of struggled in that department overall

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Speaker 2: this season. Brown sitting at an average of twenty nine

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Speaker 2: minutes and thirty seven seconds. Steelers lightly below average, slightly

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Speaker 2: below exactly would be exactly thirty. Yes, Steelers at twenty

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Speaker 2: seven fifty three, which is thirty first out of thirty

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Speaker 2: two teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Getting out of the cellar, though only ahead.

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Speaker 2: Of the Raider climbing up one rung at a time.

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Speaker 2: In a game, hey, crazier things could happen, but in

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Speaker 2: a game that we anticipate playing out a little closer

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Speaker 2: to the vest, a little lower scoring. How important is

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Speaker 2: that total offensive play snaps, total time of possession, all

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Speaker 2: that stuff in this one, Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I think it's always important, but maybe a little more

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Speaker 3: so in this one. If it's going to be whoever

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Speaker 3: runs the ball better? That type of thing hard to say,

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Speaker 3: just because they're really low on running backs too. Their

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Speaker 3: best three running backs might not play. Ampson you mentioned

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Speaker 3: in the practice board, is still up in the air.

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Speaker 3: Ford's on Ir Judkins is done. The guys have finished

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Speaker 3: the game last week. I really didn't know who they were,

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Speaker 3: you know, So it's gonna be tough on them unless

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Speaker 3: the steel run defense is really poor, especially with a

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Speaker 3: bunch of backup linemen. But you know how much I

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Speaker 3: harp on it, so I like hesitate to even go

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Speaker 3: down this road. I don't think if the Steelers lose

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Speaker 3: time possession, that they can't win this game. Sure, by

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Speaker 3: no means sure, even without Metcalf and some explosive abilities.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you're spot on there, because again

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Speaker 2: it you wouldn't be worried that all Cleveland, if we

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Speaker 2: let them possess the ball for thirty five minutes, thirty

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Speaker 2: seven minutes, they're gonna grind us down, they're gonna wear

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Speaker 3: Kind of points, or they're running down your throat late

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. Necessarily, Yes, And frankly, sometimes you know,

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Speaker 3: if the Steelers win the turnover battle Ford to nothing,

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Speaker 3: well maybe they have some short, short, fee old short possessions.

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Speaker 3: You gain points, but you hand them the football back

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Speaker 3: or you know, so he important. Yes, controlling the games

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Speaker 3: more important, and time possession is off in a direct

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Speaker 3: reflection of that. But I don't think it's a must

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Speaker 2: Both of these teams pretty good at getting after the quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland tied for second in sacts per game this year

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Speaker 2: in the NFL and average of three point three per game.

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Speaker 2: Steelers are fourth with an average of two point nine

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Speaker 2: per game a Steelers plus fourteen. In the sack differential department,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland plus six matt We know that that talented Browns

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Speaker 2: defense that has has some yeah, some really nice pieces,

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Speaker 2: but we know the straw that stirs the drink where

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Speaker 2: the conversation begins is Miles Garrett. Yeah, it appears that

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Speaker 2: Dylan Cook is going to be tasked with. Yeah, imagine,

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Speaker 2: you know, anchoring the left side of that Steelers offensive

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Speaker 2: pass rushers and him and flaps certainly the one last

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Speaker 2: and Miles Garrett, who's Defense Player of the Year, is

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Speaker 3: He's also good versus the run and has a bunch

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Speaker 2: Everybody gets help in the NFL on the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlan was like, I watched the Niners and Trent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks great even at his age. Still he's

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Speaker 3: not like he's an old man just on his last legs.

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Speaker 2: Man him and Kittle and use check like some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff that they do in the run game is

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Speaker 2: just shane. But even like Mike Tomlin's point was, because

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Speaker 2: everybody gets help in the national football Yeah, one of

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Speaker 2: does this week look like for Dylan Cook's pacifically specifically

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Speaker 2: against Miles Garrett. How the tight ends factor into that?

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Speaker 2: How does Aaron Rodgers factor into that? From a matchup standpoint?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing to highlight to limit to try

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna make plays absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Every everybody on every team that they've played this year.

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Speaker 2: On Bill's Nation Radio and Ravens had these same conversations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that. So a couple of things. I was

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Speaker 3: asked in a mailbag podcast I did the other day,

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Speaker 3: what about Dylan Cook? Could he be the long term

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Speaker 3: starter here? Blah blah blah. And that's a conversation you

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Speaker 3: and I might have after this game or in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Testament to people are asking mix him.

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Speaker 3: because this is just going to be the most difficult one.

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Speaker 3: He's done really, really well and I'm super excited about him,

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Speaker 3: and maybe he can't be a starter, but he's definitely

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Speaker 3: Pete dynamic is more relevant this week than ever. Now.

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Speaker 3: They do move Garrett around, but less than they have.

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Speaker 3: He's almost always going to go or if history shows

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Speaker 3: he's gonna spend a lot of time going against the

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Speaker 3: it's a heavy Washington game too. I mean I probably

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Speaker 3: I mean you want to double in the run game too,

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Speaker 3: You absolutely do, even when you run away from him,

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Speaker 2: And you're right he in the past, we've seen him

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think that that's like something that they've been

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Speaker 2: waiting to unleash though Week seventeen and really confuse the

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Speaker 3: They're probably looking at Cook like that's the matchup we

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Speaker 3: want that too, Yeah, right, right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times, like when you've seen Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: you do that all the time. It's like, I want

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Speaker 3: They'll twist him and stun him. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: the left tackle is always going to block them right right.

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Speaker 2: That to me is going to be very interesting because

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Speaker 2: you've got to You've got to do your best to

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Speaker 2: the rest of that defense. The other ten yeah, who

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Speaker 3: There's a bullet point in the in my stats there

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Speaker 3: But that makes it sound like all the other defensive

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Speaker 3: and it's not true. I mean, like any great player,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, of course.

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Speaker 3: But if Garrett or to miss this game, they'd still

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Speaker 3: have a good pass rush, you know, a good pass.

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Speaker 2: Rush and there it'd still be a good defense without him. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Wants to hear Bush is a good player though, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we didn't do the pick a player off

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Speaker 2: we already did that exercise earlier this year for Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: And it's Miles Garrett times one thousand.

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Speaker 2: And it's right. But if we did it, because normally

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Speaker 2: we have the caveat of you can't take a quarterback. Yes,

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Speaker 2: for so many opponents, that's too easy, that's a cheat.

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Speaker 2: If we did it with the caveat of you can't

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Speaker 3: I would take Schwesterner who's next to a match. That's

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be fine, fair fair point because he's younger

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Speaker 2: and higher ceiling wins. The Browns of two, three, three,

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Speaker 3: I believe they're gonna have the defensive player of the

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's nuts.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: so this will be this third season, I think is

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Speaker 3: got hired till now, they're number one Jim Schwartz, yep,

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Speaker 3: they're number one in defensive EPA from that whole stress

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Speaker 3: this second, but their last in offensive EPA from the

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Speaker 2: Like if we were just average on offense, right, yes.

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Speaker 2: We got to hold these guys to ten points if

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is, if this game is nine to seven,

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Speaker 3: there's some horrendous quarterbacks out there right now. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Even back when he was a Colorado like, he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: We see it with Rogers, Rogers with Flacco at times

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Speaker 3: But then that stuff inevitably always wears out, you know

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Speaker 2: By the second half, they've got it.

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Speaker 3: And it turns into a drop back passing game. And

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be great, but he'd be like fans, Our

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Speaker 2: Isn't that what happened when the Steelers and the Browns

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Speaker 2: it was one of their first drives. Oh no, because

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Speaker 2: they only scored nine points in that game. No, sorry,

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Speaker 2: they had a field goal. Field goal. Okay, so that's

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Speaker 3: But like they walked right down on the bills and scored.

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Speaker 3: You know. So they they're well coached, sure, I mean

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's one defensive note. I found it yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: In the last two weeks they played the Bills, who

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Speaker 3: But I would expect to see a lot of base persons, yes,

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Speaker 3: Friar moves on the bench, and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, stick with the tight ends, stick with Gainwell heavy.

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Speaker 3: I have not been to practice. No one's told me this.

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Speaker 3: But I would expect to see Warren and Gainwell on

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Speaker 2: Rogers want to go round you and I have been

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Speaker 2: plenty to get to before we get up out of here.

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Speaker 2: Well Shuler, Matt Williams, and it is the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four We're seven Home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goals Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio Week seventeen across the National Football League. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a week to week thing here, Matt, But that's

443
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: still as wild to say. Out always happens quickly, Penn.

444
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: Ultimate week of the NFL regular season, and you know,

445
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Speaker 2: just about two weeks from now, we'll be getting ready

446
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Speaker 2: for the wild card round of the playoffs. Across the NFL,

447
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: it's staring down a new year in the process, Matt.

448
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 2: We kind of, but not really before we go across

449
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Speaker 2: the weekend slate of games, because we do have two

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Speaker 2: games Saturday and then a full day Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Was there, right, games?

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Speaker 2: The Saturday games are very good. Yeah, yesterday's games were

453
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Speaker 2: not so good. No, I just didn't know because we

454
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Speaker 2: haven't really talked. I mean we kind of mentioned the

455
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Speaker 2: Broncos and kind of mentioned the Lions, But yeah, was

456
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Speaker 2: there anything specific from yesterday that you that you wanted

457
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Speaker 2: to discuss that you felt was worthy of conversation.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of texts from my buddies, you know, boys,

459
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: Steeler win doesn't look as good now because the Lions lost,

460
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: you know, the Brasmo. Yeah, I'm like, I didn't see

461
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: it that way. They lost a turnover battle six to nothing. Yeah,

462
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not gonna win in this league very often,

463
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Speaker 3: especially against the Flora's defense, when you turn the ball

464
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Speaker 3: over six times and don't get any yourself. Now, I

465
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Speaker 3: think the Lions are not the Juggernaut. Maybe I thought

466
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Speaker 3: they were, especially on the offensive line in the running game.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that's that's safe to say. But

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Speaker 3: my biggest takeaway from yesterday was we sell these teams

469
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Speaker 3: short when you preview teams like, man, the Chiefs have

470
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 3: nothing to play for? Why would Kelsey and Jones play?

471
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: These guys are proud on national TV on Christmas. You know,

472
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Speaker 3: Washington had nothing to play for, Minnesota nothing to play for.

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Speaker 3: They're highly competitive games.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Let's back to the mote stuff about like what's a

476
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Speaker 3: blowout or you know Merrill always talking about how don't

477
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: over underestimates.

478
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Speaker 2: An embarrassing professional.

479
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, these guys play hard and the

480
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: Browns could be Steelers, is what I'm telling you, folks.

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Speaker 2: You know totally. Yeah, there are certainly instances, like Max

482
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: Starks has told this story before about how there was

483
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: a couple times in his career it'd be the end

484
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Speaker 2: of the season. They'd be playing some Cancun ready team

485
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: it was, you know, four and eleven, and the you know,

486
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Speaker 2: one of their defensive ends comes up to me during

487
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Speaker 2: warm ups and it is like, hey, Max, big dog, like,

488
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Speaker 2: let's go easy today, all right? Me and you like,

489
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Speaker 2: let's take it easy on each other. But I think

490
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Speaker 2: that's the exception to the rule. I think in large part,

491
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Speaker 2: these guys they didn't make it to this level the

492
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Speaker 2: one percent of the one percent by taking games off,

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Speaker 2: taking snaps off, taking practices off. I mean, just that

494
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Speaker 2: intensity in that mindset doesn't translate to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I bet thirty or forty percent of the players in

496
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 3: every game contracts are expiring after this year free agents. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: like you're putting it on tape and every team that's

498
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Speaker 3: going to sign you were decide not to know these things,

499
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: Like tanking to me is benching brock Bowers. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not like Giants Raiders. As soon as what's going

501
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: to happen there, it's not the players are like, let's

502
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: just play Patty Cake.

503
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Speaker 2: So we can draft two of this this offseason.

504
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: Like this was this was terrible. It bothered me to

505
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Speaker 3: no end. But when I was with the Browns. We

506
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Speaker 3: were horrible, but our two of our best players, which

507
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Speaker 3: says a lot of how bad we were. Courtney Brown

508
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: was the first overall pick. He was a good player.

509
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Speaker 3: He didn't live up to being he wasn't Bruce Smith

510
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Speaker 3: his first overall pick, but he was good. And Ross

511
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Speaker 3: Berber was the left tackle who was our best offensive lineman,

512
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Speaker 3: you know, which Our line was so bad, but those

513
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: two would take it's so easy on each other. Every practice.

514
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: It'd always line up against each other like it was

515
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: a big heavyweight fight and they would play paddy cake

516
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 3: the whole time and everyone team sees it, you know,

517
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: like and that that wasn't how they were on game day,

518
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: but like that's not how. You can't do that in

519
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: this game.

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Speaker 2: Too. Yeah, as opposed to I mean, I remember my

521
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: first year, first training camp with the Steelers twenty eighteen,

522
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: when it was like they should have charged people money.

523
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: You should have had to pay admission to show up

524
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: in Latrobe and watch Antonio Brown and Joe Hayden work

525
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: against each other for two hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they draft Burns in the first round, like you

527
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: got ab all day, Like wow.

528
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Speaker 2: An Ab practicing like his literal life depended upon every snap,

529
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Speaker 2: every rep. Yes, and I wonder how that guy ends

530
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Speaker 2: up being so good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was the hardest working guy in the field

532
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Speaker 3: every practice.

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Speaker 2: Matt. Let's get into this weekend slate of games here

534
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Speaker 2: beginning Saturday at four point thirty at beautiful, gorgeous SOFI

535
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Speaker 2: Stadium in southern California, where the Chargers are a point

536
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Speaker 2: and a half favorite over the Texans and one that Matt.

537
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: Both of these teams are going to the playoffs, but

538
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: has a lot of seating and division implications on the line.

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Speaker 3: It does, so it matters. I sell a Charger short

540
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 3: every week, and I'm gonna sell him short again, especially

541
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Speaker 3: against this D line in this past rush.

542
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Speaker 2: This I feel like it asked to finally jump up

543
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: and bite the Chargers this week. They've gotten away with

544
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: it with that offensive line so often.

545
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: So often, you know, And I don't expect to be

546
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: a high scoring game, but I think Houston's better. I

547
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: don't consider that any kind of home field advantage. I'm

548
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: shocked there getting points.

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00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Only game this week that has a lower over and

550
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Speaker 2: under is in Cleveland on Sunday between the Steelers and Rose. Yep,

551
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Speaker 2: they're like Packers Ravens has the same over under as

552
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Speaker 2: Texans Chargers, but there's only one lower and that's the Steelers.

553
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: In the Browns, it's just thirty nine and a half

554
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Speaker 2: points is the over under? Wow, Chargers favored by a

555
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Speaker 2: point and a half. I'll take Houston plus one and

556
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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're better.

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00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: I do too, Yeah. Yeah, And again I think you've

559
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: been real guilty of this, but I have been too.

560
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Speaker 2: Just kind of like this is the week that it

561
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Speaker 2: blows up on the Chargers and all the win win. Yeah,

562
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Speaker 2: And I don't think it's going to blow up on them.

563
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't think that Houston's gonna go there and win

564
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Speaker 2: by twenty one. Now, if you're giving me the Texans

565
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: and points, and what you and I have discussed is

566
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Speaker 2: a beautiful stadium but not really a hostile in environment.

567
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: There could be like a Bowl game. I'll take the

568
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: I'll take the Texans plus one and a half. And

569
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Speaker 2: then Saturday night one that all the Steeler nation will

570
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: be watching Matt That is a little different now with

571
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: that Lion's loss yesterday.

572
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: Who's playing and who isn't And.

573
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: The Packers have now for those that really weren't paying attention.

574
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: Maybe you were doing the family thing and actually gathering

575
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 2: on Christmas instead of just watching football. Ravens Packers. We

576
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: all kind of thought, you know that that was Ravens lose.

577
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: They're out. Uh, Packers win. The Steelers are in, and

578
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: that's still the case. But Green Bay has now clinched

579
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: a playoff spot in their own right due to that

580
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: Lion's loss yesterday. Tell TV to leave you alone and

581
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: stop worrying about your hair. Okay, something's going on a

582
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: little sticking up here. It's fine. He's distracting you over there.

583
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: Break all right, my kids.

584
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: He doesn't have any he doesn't even here to worry

585
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: about it. I'm sorry, TV, I'm sorry. That was rude.

586
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: That was rude. I apologize.

587
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: You knew it was going on there, right Packers.

588
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: Pack Packers have now clinched a playoff spot. They could

589
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: still fight for a division title, but it's very unlikely.

590
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 2: They would need a ton of help. They would need

591
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: a lot of things to go their way and to

592
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: go wrong for Chicago. But they're also pretty banged up.

593
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: Georgie Love is questionable, Malik Willis is questionable, and they

594
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: don't need now, and they don't need it as much.

595
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Now they're still four and a half point favorites because

596
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Lamar is questionable. There's just so much unknown about this game.

597
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: Who is a quarterback for both teams? How in tune

598
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: is Green Bay to really, you know, go out there

599
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: and put it all on the line to win when

600
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: they know they've already secured a playoff spot. I don't

601
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: know what to think. I don't four and a half's

602
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: a lot of points. I might take them for Baltimore.

603
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: I think this game, okay. I mean, maybe that's just

604
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: Lamar news when he officially was doubtful, but it's gone

605
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: up and up and up all week. From what I understand,

606
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick it like it's Huntley versus Willis.

607
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: I think that's probably a safe assumption.

608
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: And I'll take the Packers in their building, I would

609
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: hope from a well not from a Steeler perspective, but

610
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: if I'm the Ravens, I want to give the ball

611
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: to Henry a million times in a row. But the

612
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: Packers on defense isn't bad, and Baltimore doesn't do that

613
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: as much as they should.

614
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: They should.

615
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: They get away from him too much they.

616
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Do, especially this time of year, like where he's yeah,

617
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: historically one of the best.

618
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: Just lean on him.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I'm with you on that.

620
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Speaker 3: I wish it was under a field goal, though.

621
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Speaker 2: I think I'm taking the points because I just think

622
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: it'll be close either way.

623
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Speaker 3: When it was two to two and a half and

624
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: there was a chance on Mars playing and I thought

625
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: Love was playing, I was like, I like green Bay.

626
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: Now I just don't know, and probably when you don't know,

627
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: you should probably take a point.

628
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: I think I'm taking the four and a half with

629
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Speaker 2: Baltimore on Saturday night, although that's again that's just a

630
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: weird one with the injuries, with the quarterback situation, and

631
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: with what now is a Green Bay team it yeah,

632
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: still wants to win and all of those things obviously,

633
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: but doesn't need to from a playoff perspective. They have

634
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: clinched due to that Lion's loss onto the Sunday slate here.

635
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: I find interesting and next week's even more important. Well,

636
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: most years, the order of when the games are played

637
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: this time of year matters a lot, you know, like

638
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: the like.

639
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: There's probably some people kicking themselves about this one being

640
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: on a Saturday, when the Lions played Thursday and the

641
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Steelers play Sunday.

642
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: Right right, right, right, like it really influences those two

643
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: teams a lot.

644
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: It does, and they have done a pretty good job.

645
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: The NFL has of that, that shuffling at the end

646
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: of the year, but you're never gonna play them all

647
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: one exactly exactly exactly right onto the Sunday slight Here, Matt,

648
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: the highest over under of the weekend is in Cincinnati.

649
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: Where that has to Bengals card where the.

650
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: Bengals host the Cardinals.

651
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: You guys in your fantasy championship.

652
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Speaker 2: Yes, fifty three and a half is the uh the number,

653
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: and I mean yeah, lowest, lowest get in price of

654
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: the weekend, just seventeen dollars in Arizona. You can have

655
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: it in Cincinnati, where it's actually supposed to be sixty

656
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: two degrees in a light rain, So not terrible. Whether

657
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: they're the Bengals seven and a half point favorites.

658
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: Ooh, I thought it was under seven. Last I saw

659
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: it was six and a half. I think it's moved.

660
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: I'll still take the Bengals. I felt good with them

661
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: over a touchdown.

662
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: I think like they're gonna do what they did to

663
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: Miami last week.

664
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Brissette can keep up with.

665
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: Burrows, They're gonna blow out a bad team.

666
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: They're blow a bad team.

667
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying the Bengals are a good team,

668
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: but they've got some good pieces off. Yeah, because and

669
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: I think they'll win by fourteen or twenty or something

670
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: like that.

671
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: And I might take the over though.

672
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate it, wouldn't hate it. Uh. Titans hosting

673
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: the Saints in a battle of two teams not playing

674
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: for much. This is super interesting but me too because

675
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: it's it's two teams that have their quarterback and are final.

676
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: Something like Raiders Giants Junk Bowl. This is like two

677
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: fun young teams.

678
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: Saints have won a couple games in a row. Here

679
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Titans are coming off of a win.

680
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are playing the best of their of the

681
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: season with their young quarterbacks.

682
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: Which isn't a high bar to clear.

683
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: But they're getting better. Yes, Like Tennessee's running on everyone.

684
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: Chuck's putting up big numbers, A Lave's blowing up ward.

685
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: Looks good. I interrupted you, what's the spread? And when

686
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: it's at Tennessee, right.

687
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: It's in Nashville, Yes, in Tennessee, where New Orleans is

688
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: a two and a half point road favorite. Oh, I'll

689
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: take the points with Tennessee.

690
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. At home, I think I'll lay in with

691
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: New Orleans. I think New Orleans is playing a little better.

692
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: I think they're a little better.

693
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: They're on a winning streak.

694
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: You, they are on a little bit of a winning streak.

695
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: I think the Titans are moving in the right direction,

696
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: but I think the Saints got there a couple of

697
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: weeks ago. I'll take New Orleans in a close one.

698
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: I'll take the two and a half.

699
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna pay a lot of attention to this game.

700
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: I think that's a fun one for just kind of

701
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: ev ow. Yeah, standpoint a.

702
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: Free time during the week, I might watch you all

703
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: twenty two of the both quarterbacks.

704
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: And what we had circled a few weeks ago as

705
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: a massive week. Seventeen games still means plenty now for Jacksonville,

706
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: but not as much for the Colts. In Indianapolis, the

707
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: Jags are five and a half point favorites at Lucas

708
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: Oil Stadium.

709
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: I just saw when I was getting coffee that Buckner's

710
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: now out for the year. The Wheels are kind of off,

711
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: I think so, and I think Jacksonville's not who I'm

712
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: betting against right now. They're hot, Lawrence is hot.

713
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: The Colts man just from seven to.

714
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: One to yeah eight, really all their fault, No, not.

715
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Really all their fault, but I just, man, they pushed

716
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: all their chips in at the trade deadline, and it's

717
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: just I don't think any of us, you the whole

718
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: way were like, this team isn't guaranteed a playoff spot,

719
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: this team isn't guaranteed. You were saying that when they

720
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: were like eight and two.

721
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: And credit to the Jags. Their division's gotten good now,

722
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: so it's last ten years has been like the worst division.

723
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Real good. So obviously Houston they'll be keeping an eye

724
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: on that one. Jacksonville watching the Texans on Saturday. But

725
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: I think we'll both lay the points with Jacksonville minus

726
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: five and a half. Yeah, yeah, I think they'll win

727
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: by ten, you know, touchdown town rolling something like that.

728
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: They're rolling, and the coach the Colts just feel like

729
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: it's I think it's over all over. But the crying

730
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: in Miami where a Dolphins team, the little Battle of

731
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: Florida here, Matt between the Dolphins and the Bucks, a

732
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: Bucks team that is kind of desperate for some feel

733
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: good to head into this last week against the Panthers.

734
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: They want to keep pace with the Panthers and and

735
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: all that, and you know, still have a week eighteen

736
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: meaningful the Bucks.

737
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: I think if the Panthers win and Bucks lose, it's over.

738
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the Panthers host the Seahawks, which is a

739
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: tough but you're right. If the Panthers winning the Bucks lose,

740
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: it's over. Ye. The Bucks are five and a half

741
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: point favorites in Miami Gardens against the Dolphins.

742
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: I don't like how Tampa's played it.

743
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: I don't like where the Dolphins are at either. They're

744
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: like starting to shut people down and play.

745
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: It every week. I keep saying, well, I think the

746
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: Bucks will get back. You know, Evans is back. I'm

747
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: gonna do it again, just like I picked against the

748
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: Garden and Chargers again. You know, guess because I don't

749
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: like where Miami's at. I don't like the five and

750
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: a half though, No, I don't like the Miami can score.

751
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: But I think I'm with you. I'm going to air

752
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: on the side of the Bucks get back, as opposed

753
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: to like Quen yours is going to go out there.

754
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: That's the thing is yours are playing too.

755
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: I just I don't see it. For the Dolphins. I

756
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: give them credit because they've had plenty of opportunity this

757
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: season to roll over and give up. But I think

758
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: the Bucks will find a way to go in there

759
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: and not blow them out, but control that game. Yeah,

760
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: what should be a blowout. Matt is Sunday one o'clock

761
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: at MetLife Stadium, where the Jets host the Patriots in

762
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: an AFC East battle. Yeah, Patriots looking to stay a

763
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: leg up on Buffalo, where they are biggest spread of

764
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: the weekend. Matt thirteen and a half point favorites against

765
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: the Jets.

766
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

767
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: That's two touchdowns they gotta win by.

768
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take the New England. I mean, the

769
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: Jets d's been really bad. Cook's playing again for a quarterback.

770
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: I mean, New England needs it and they're pretty darn

771
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: good right now.

772
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: The perfect on the road this year to the Patriots

773
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: haven't lost a road game.

774
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't truly bet it, but if I

775
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: had to pick, I'm gonna take New England.

776
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: Same but I would stay away from this.

777
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a big line.

778
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: The grinch thirty nine and a half foot Poles. I

779
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: don't want any part of a thirteen and a half

780
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: point line. Even in a game the Patriots could be up.

781
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: The Patriots could be up twenty the whole game. They could, yeah,

782
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: but they could also be up by twenty points at

783
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: the end and the Jets score a garbage time touchdown

784
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: and back door cover by a half point. I don't

785
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: like it, but I will lay them for New England

786
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: for the sake of this exercise. We talked about the

787
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: Panthers in that tough one against Seattle, even Charlotte where

788
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: the Seahawks have to do that West Coast team playing

789
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: a one o'clock East Coast game, but we know they're

790
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: great at it. Seattle a seven point favorite on the

791
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: road in Charlotte. I might take the points in this one.

792
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: It was seven and a half this morning, then I

793
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: would definitely take it. And I would definitely take the points,

794
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: and you beat me to it. So I think they

795
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: can keep it close. And Seattle's great, but their offense

796
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: is taking a small step back. I mean, I thought

797
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: it was like an A or and a minus. Now

798
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: it's a B, you know. And Carolina, I'm not a

799
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: bright young fan at all, but he's playing pretty well

800
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: last couple weeks. And Cocher and Ted McMillan.

801
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: And they can run the ball.

802
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they always run the ball well. When it was

803
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: seven and a half, I was really interested. But I'll

804
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 3: still take the points. I'm with you, Matt.

805
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned it the first overall pick ball maybe here.

806
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: I think it is.

807
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: Raiders hosting the Giants at Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas.

808
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: The Giants one and a half point. I don't know

809
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: how the over under for this is forty one and

810
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: a half. It's not even close to the lowest. Raiders

811
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Giants battle of two win teams. I guess they could tie,

812
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: but somebody has to win. Yeah. Yeah, Giants haven't won

813
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: a road game all year, Matt. They are o and

814
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: eight on the road. Do they get it done in Vegas?

815
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes. I mean again, not a hard

816
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: place to play. Vegas can't have any home wins.

817
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: They are one in such.

818
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of wins between either one of

819
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: these teams. I think the Giants are just better than

820
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: the Raiders, which is weird because the Raiders weren't bad

821
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 3: last week.

822
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think the Raiders should be

823
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: much better than the Giants. Agree Again, if you just

824
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: look at the roster on paper, Yeah, they did. They

825
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: show them signs of life in Houston. They shut down Bowers,

826
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: which is a massive loss for.

827
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 3: Them when they only had a couple of good players

828
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: and you just got rid of one of them.

829
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: Again, this is another one I just would wouldn't even touch.

830
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: No, but it has massive ramifications. I think the loser

831
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 3: will end up with the first overall pick.

832
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: I might take the Raiders plus one and a half.

833
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take the Giants.

834
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: Bill's Eagles big one, Matt for seating purposes, for I

835
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: think for both of these teams some momentum, some feel good.

836
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: Let's go knock off another double digit win team right

837
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: before the playoffs. Buffalo at Orchard Park four twenty five

838
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday, the Eagles on the road. Buffalo a one

839
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: and a half slight favorite at home against Philly.

840
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: Lema taking points.

841
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna take the Eagles plus one and a half.

842
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a close game. I think both

843
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Eagles are back to running the ball really well. I

844
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: mean it's kind of been unreported. You just look at

845
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: the offense and be like, oh, it's struggled all year.

846
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: I think Lane Johnson comes back to this game too,

847
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: and I trust their defense more than I do Buffalo's,

848
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: so I think they have his equal chance to win

849
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: this game as Buffalo. I'll just take the points.

850
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles have a better roster, certainly have

851
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: a better roster.

852
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: Agreed. Allen's also fighting a foot.

853
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 2: Fighting a foot injury. I don't know, though, Man, there's

854
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: just something weird. I hesitated to pick the Eagles the

855
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: last month or so because they just feel so volatile.

856
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I think there's some of that kind of feels

857
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: like it might be the Bills year, and.

858
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 2: It kind of feels like, and I know the Josh

859
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: Allen injury aside, things are coming together for Buffalo at

860
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: the right time. They have these last two weeks at

861
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: home only home games. They're guaranteed left at Orchard Park

862
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: because remember they're not in the first place in the division.

863
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: They're you know, they could there'll be a wild card

864
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: could end up, So this could be it. This could

865
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: be the kind of penultimate. They've got the Jets at

866
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: home next week two to close it down. For the

867
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: for the you know, official regular season and all that.

868
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take the Bill. I think I'm

869
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: gonna lay the point a half of Buffalo. I don't

870
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: know why. I just feel better about them at this

871
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: point than I do the Eagles.

872
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: I understand that Eagles have a better roster, yeah, but

873
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: those have been pretty consistent.

874
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: Bills have been consistent lately. And then Matt what is

875
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: for for playoff seating? Both these teams going to the playoffs,

876
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: but this could be the most fun game of the

877
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: weekend from a neutral perspective. Sunday night football in Santa Clara,

878
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: the Niners host the Bears. Eleven and four against eleven

879
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: and four. Some seating stuff at potential at play here

880
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: the Niners, they still have a shot to win that division.

881
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: Outside the.

882
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: One. Both these teams could still enough at the one seam.

883
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: This matters.

884
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: This matters for two eleven and four teams that are

885
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. San Francisco a three twice, You

886
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: know they could, They absolutely could. San Francisco a three

887
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: point favorite at home.

888
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: I went to points.

889
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: How do you totally now this is.

890
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: A little misleading, But San Francisco is not punted in

891
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 3: December and it's Christmas. Uh they had to buy.

892
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: Though, but still that's an impressive stat.

893
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: Their offense is on fire. I mean, they score points

894
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: every time they get the ball, and it feels that way.

895
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: I mean, whether they're running pass and whatever, I think

896
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Kittle's gonna play. But I still look at their defense

897
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: and don't trust it. San Francisco's so baged up, and

898
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: I don't love the Bears either defensively, but it's better

899
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: than where San Franz is at. And I think Chicago

900
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: can hang with this team. I mean, if we were

901
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: to power rank these teams, they'd probably be right next

902
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: to each other.

903
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, both in the top seven orrange.

904
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I'll take the points. Caleb Williams is

905
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 3: a legit dude man.

906
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: Cheap or most expensive part of me. He is, by

907
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: the way, absolutely most expensive. Get in price of the

908
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: weekend things are pricing in San fran I've heard so

909
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: I've heard apparently brock Party had to like live in

910
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: a van down by the river when he was still

911
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: on his rookie contract because that's how expensive housing is

912
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: out there. Three hundred and forty six bucks to sit

913
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: in the nosebleeds. Wow, who with fees and everything, you're

914
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: pushing four hundo by that point.

915
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: Sunday night, right, Sunday night.

916
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: Yes, which I should should be back off the buses

917
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, and time and time to watch it.

918
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: Bill's Eagles also, Matt to eighty five cheapest get in

919
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: ticket there and you know again, kind of the end

920
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: of Orchard Park and a big one between two good

921
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: teams Bears Niners, second highest over under of the weekend,

922
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: just a point lower than that Cardinals Bengals game fifty

923
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: two and a half. I'm with you. I'll take the

924
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: Bears plus three. You're gonna give me the Bears plus

925
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: a field goal. I'll take the Bears plus a field

926
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: I might do that.

927
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: Anybody there played right now? Yeah, football tea.

928
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: Of course, we'll talk about Monday's Falcons Rams game when

929
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: we're back here on Monday. But that means we have

930
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: to get to our final break return on the other side,

931
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: final thoughts and predictions for Steelers Browns before we get

932
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: up out of here. We'll do that when we return.

933
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Cross the t's dot, the i's here on the drive

934
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: on this Friday. Wesheeler Matt Williamson Steelers Nation Radio on

935
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, your Tunes.

936
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

937
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

938
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on a Friday. We've got

939
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: to predict the Steelers and the Browns before we get

940
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: out of here. We've also got an injury report to

941
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: update you on. But I did want to make sure

942
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: to mention on today's show, Matt saving the best for

943
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: last type here. Pretty cool. You know, we do this

944
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: from time to time. We kind of highlight some of

945
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: the stuff that maybe the Steelers Video department content team. Yeah,

946
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: the work they do, awesome stuff. You know, like we

947
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: mentioned one of these when the Steelers went to Dublin,

948
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, the Ambassador a Steelers Story. The Ambassador just

949
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: kind of on the history of the Rooney family in

950
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: Ireland and the relationship and how much that all meant

951
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: to the Steelers, you know, more kind of in depth

952
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: document style history features.

953
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

954
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they just released one today that you can

955
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: watch on YouTube, you can watch on Steelers dot com

956
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: called a Steelers Story The Terrible Towel Oh you and

957
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: me both of course, highlighting the day that it all

958
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: began December twenty seventh, nineteen seventy five, when the Terrible Towel,

959
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: of course, conducted and instructed by Myron Cope, became Matt

960
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Now fifty years later, I mean, arguably the you know,

961
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: the single most iconic kind of sports fan item.

962
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, I think it probably is.

963
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: It's on that short list.

964
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

965
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: Like the only other thing that even comes to my

966
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: mind is the Packers cheesehead, but that doesn't have nearly

967
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: the history of the Terrible Towel. Yeah, Like, I love

968
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: how it just started as a as a you know,

969
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: a yellow dish rag and then evolved into something official,

970
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: so really cool history. Fifty year anniversary, big shout out

971
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: to Nate Hogan and everybody that that had a part

972
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: in that. But a Steeler's Story, The Terrible Towel now

973
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: streaming available, Steer Steelers dot com, YouTube, all those places.

974
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: Pretty cool stuff that the that the that the team

975
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: puts together. As always, Matt, quickly, before we give our

976
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: predictions and get up out of here, we have our

977
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: final practice participation injury report for the Steelers. You can

978
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: rule out Calvin Austin, Brandon Eccles, James Pierre, and TJ.

979
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: Watt, who that's not exactly what you wanted to hear.

980
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: TJ. We all assumed, and Calvin Austin as well, but

981
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: Eckles and Pierre both being out. Little finn in the

982
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 2: secondary again, especially when you consider Jalen Ramsey is listed

983
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: is questionable with that illness.

984
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: I assume he'll play a lot more slot.

985
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Would have to, yeah uh. And Isaac Samalu questionable with

986
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: his triceps.

987
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: The other porter might get a helmet again or yeah.

988
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: Corner situations a little dire so, but again, this is

989
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: not the concern challenge for that.

990
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: It's concerning. So good news for her big, you know.

991
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: Good news for Jalen Warren, well, he's listed his questions,

992
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: but he's not ruled out.

993
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm putting good news for anybody's not. Yes, it does so.

994
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: Calvin Austin, Brandon, Eckles, Pierre, and Watt all ruled out.

995
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: Samlu and Jalen Ramsey will be game time decisions. That's

996
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: the latest on the injury front for your Pittsburgh Steelers.

997
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Not great, but not great.

998
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: Not the end of the world but not but but

999
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: but not great. Matt Sunday in Cleveland one o'clock There

1000
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: at Huntington Bank Field, the Browns host the Steelers, where

1001
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers are three point road favorites, lowest over under

1002
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: of the week, just thirty four and a half.

1003
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna go first, tough one to predict. I mean,

1004
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: you don't really even know who's playing and the motivation

1005
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: and all that stuff.

1006
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ooh, I'm gonna go twenty one to

1007
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: thirteen Steelers. Okay, although for those who know, I'll go

1008
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: like twenty one thirteen Browns just to keep up with

1009
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: the tradition of the Steelers winning when I play against them.

1010
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: But now I'm kidding twenty one thirteen Steelers.

1011
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: So I think the Ravens lose the night before. Steelers

1012
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: still basically play their guys, but maybe in the fourth

1013
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: quarter you might see a Rudolph or something like.

1014
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: That, or Jalen Ramsey if you're still dealing sniffles a little,

1015
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 2: he comes.

1016
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: In for see them all, or you know, something like that.

1017
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: I just don't know where the points are coming from

1018
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: from the Browns. So I think I got the Steelers

1019
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: seventeen nine.

1020
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I love scoring. You're way under on the over under.

1021
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: I could see our Monday going that wasn't the prettiest.

1022
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: But let's justocus on the results as opposed to play

1023
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: after play that didn't go so great. Yeah, yeah, right,

1024
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: if if Monday, if they're THEFTY North Champs, that's all

1025
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: I care about.

1026
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: Hi. If I'm looking at however you get there, if

1027
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm looking into my crystal ball, Monday, there AFC AFC

1028
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: North Champs. It was a little bit of a boring

1029
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: game to dissect and break down, but we're going to

1030
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs. We're hosting a playoff game, and we've got

1031
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: a week to get right in the process. From a

1032
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: health standpoint too.

1033
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be That's the goal here and hope

1034
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 3: and no new injuries.

1035
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: And no new injuries of course, that'll do it for

1036
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 2: us this week. Thanks to everybody for rocking and rolling

1037
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: with us. Thanks to Missy Matthews for joining us today.

1038
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully everybody out there and joining your Christmas your holiday,

1039
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: safe travels if you're going to and far h this

1040
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: weekend from your holiday travels, and as always, win Loser

1041
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: Draw will be back on Monday to break it all

1042
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: down for you. Big thanks to TV mister Tyler v

1043
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: our video guy, for keeping us crisp on YouTube and

1044
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: for being Matt's personal hairstylist here in the second hour

1045
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: of the show as well for Matt Williamson, I am

1046
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: Wes Sheeler. Take care, everybody. We'll talk to you Monday.

1047
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: You know where to find us. It's on your twenty

1048
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold. It's

1049
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.