WEBVTT - 05/17/21 DPS Hour 2 Bill Plaschke 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.040 Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangs 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.160 all here, it's our two. We'll talk to the great 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.800 columnists the La Times. Bill Plishki will join us. We'll 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:17.560 talk about Kobe Bryant's Hall of Fame induction speech delivered 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:21.400 by his wife who did delivered it with such grace 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.520 and poise and class. Reggie Miller, hall of Famer, will 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.760 join us. We'll recap some of the speeches there. And 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.400 Rudy tom Jonovich, who got into the Hall of Fame, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.800 former great player and of course coach of the Rockets 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.839 when they won back to back titles. He said the 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:43.520 following that kind of created a different kind of conversation 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.360 today than we expected. I want to speak up for 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.960 Robert Are to be inductive into the Hall of Fame. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:59.920 He is truly a legendary player. He made so many 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.679 clutch shots. He's got seven rings to prove it. This 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.520 is where he belongs. All right, Well, we'll talk to 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.400 Reggie about that coming up. The NBA Hall of Fame 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.600 induction on Saturday was a bittersweet event, though, because Vanessa 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.880 Bryant's moving speech about Kobe was a reminder of what 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.160 made him so special, and she told you know, quite 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.680 a few stories, one that he was hurting, but told 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.000 her he wanted to play for the fans who stayed 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.039 up to watch him play. Load management was not part 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:35.679 of his vocabulary. He was old school and Vanessa's speech 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.360 was a reminder of what made him so special. And 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.600 it wasn't just physical talent he certainly had that, he 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.240 was just the competitiveness also basketball IQ like, the brilliance 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.480 of understanding the game, understanding what defenses we're going to 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:55.200 try to do. We saw that in the man standing 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.280 next to Vanessa. We saw it at a high level 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.720 Michael Jordan. The intangibles that's what separates all stars from 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.000 all time greats. And a lot of memories came back 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.240 this weekend. It's sad we didn't get to hear Kobe 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.119 speak because he probably would have taken a page out 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.600 of Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, maybe taken a 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.560 couple of shots at Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan in there, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.080 but he would have delivered in a big moment like 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.200 he always did as a player. But credit to Vanessa 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.800 for sharing that special Bryant Family Magic with all of 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:31.760 us on Saturday Night. Here is Vanessa talking about Kobe 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.320 being on a different level. Kobe was on a different level. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.120 He never took shortcuts when it came to basketball. He 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:44.000 gave this game his all. Kobe played through injury after injury, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.720 to name a few. He had ivs administered during halftimes 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.200 to play for food poisoning and the flu. He played 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.920 with a broken nose. He had a broken finger and 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.480 had it snap back in place just enough to finish 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.120 the game. He also taught himself how to use his 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.560 left hand to play the rest of the season while 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:06.160 his finger healed. He even swished two free throws with 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:12.120 the torn achilles and walked off the court on his own. Yeah, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.720 there were moments where he was not coming out of 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.480 a game and he was going to stay in the 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.080 game even if it man he was going to have 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:23.840 to shoot left handed. But when you look back when 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:27.040 he tore his achilles, we didn't know it was torn. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.600 But he was going to stay in the game. It 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:37.280 was a wonderful weekend, really was. And you know Tim Duncan. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.560 I met Tim when he first got to San Antonio, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.520 and I was there when they made him carry the bags. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.000 He was a rookie and the veterans made him carry bags. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.240 And I went to dinner with him, and I realized 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.840 he was really funny, really interesting, had all of these tattoos. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:03.839 He loved collecting knives like you just never with Tim 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.400 duncan you go, uh yeah, a great player, but we 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.840 don't know much about him. I found that he had 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.680 a great sense of humor and he was so driven. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.360 At one point he wanted to find out when ESPN 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.039 did the fifty Greatest Athletes of All time, and he 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.719 kept badgering me because I was hosting the show, and 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.599 he goes, you gotta tell me, like, it's Jordan one, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.560 It's Jordan number one. I said, I can't tell you, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.320 and at the time I didn't know, and I said, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:38.800 win the title and I'll tell you. He won the title. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:45.040 Comes in after they won the title. First thing he says, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.359 is Jordan number one? And I said yes. He goes, okay, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:56.799 thank you. It was just he just was a fun 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.480 person to be around, but he never wanted to share 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.719 any of that. I tried to get him on the 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.440 show a variety of time. He just didn't want it. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.559 He didn't. He didn't care about it. He never cared 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.240 about it. And even now I think if he probably 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.040 campaigned a little bit more when he was playing, he 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.000 might be a top five player of all time, maybe 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.919 maybe even higher. He just didn't care. His competitiveness was 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.240 never on display. It was there. He just didn't show 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.160 it like Kevin Garnett. He didn't show it like Kobe, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.240 but it was there. And what a prideful person. But 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.320 his speech was the fact that he didn't write it down. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.719 Everybody else had speeches on teleprompters. Jim just went up 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:47.440 there and talked. I'm surprised he got dressed up like 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.240 Tim is just a bigger version of Barry Sanders where 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:55.120 you just go They're different. They're just different, you know, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.599 a taller version of John Stockton. They're just they just played. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.839 They didn't ask for anything, but they gave you everything. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.039 And there was something poignant about how the people who 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.800 mean so much to him, Popovich went to visit him 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.840 in the Virgin Islands, and Tim thought that that was normal, 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.040 and it wasn't. Popovich wanted to know Tim wanted to 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.120 know his family, really wanted to know who he was, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:30.440 what he was all about and they developed that great relationship. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.560 So that was great. That was great to hear. It 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.040 was just fun hearing the stories. It's great seeing those 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.880 Hall of Famers be able to come back. But a 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.120 wonderful weekend. Yeah, Seeden, I like that Tim Duncan Cootes. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.400 If you added both of my parents together, there would 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.360 still be zero basketball knowledge, no nothing. He was He 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:54.440 was a swimmer. Yeah, and I remember, you know, at 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.080 wake Forest. It's like, Okay, oh that guy at wake 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.120 Forest seems like he's pretty good. But he was at 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.400 wake Forest. If he was in Kentucky to go, oh 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.839 my god, that guys he's best player of scene, it 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.760 was like there was something, Well he's at wake Forest. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:13.040 But Tim Duncan had that competitive drive, but it was 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.720 always like it was always hidden. But you can make 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:24.040 a case he deserves to be recognized as one of 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.920 the two or three greatest players of all time. Consistency 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:33.560 winning titles offense, defense, He did everything you wanted. He 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.040 just did it quietly in a town that suited his personality. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.120 Had he played on a bigger stage, had he played 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.560 in New York, had he played in LA, we would 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.120 remember Tim Duncan differently. I truly believe that if he's 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.560 winning titles, there would be a statue at Staples. If 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.360 he was winning a title titles in New York, there'd 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.760 be a statue. He's in San Antonio him couldn't care 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.480 less about how he's honored or have a statue there. Yeah. Point, 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.920 it's also so weird how he ended up in San Antonio. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.679 Five ninety six Spurs with David Robinson and Popovich before 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.760 Tim Duncan got there, were fifty nine to twenty three. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.840 They're first in the Midwestern Division. They're great. Back injury 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.920 to Tim Duncan, they finished sixth. In the next season, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.920 they were twenty and sixty two. They get deep in 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.600 the playoff lottery, they get Tim Duncan. First year with 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.600 Tim Duncan, they're right back on top twenty fifty six games. Well, 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.920 I think that it might have been encouraged for David 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.920 Robinson to not play those final games for the regular 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.880 season when he came back with his back injury, and 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.800 then they win the lottery. That's when Rick Patino thought, Hey, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.040 I'm coaching the Celtics and we're getting Tim Duncan, and 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.520 I am set for the next decade or so. And 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.760 it didn't happen. Obviously, Yes, McLevin. I wonder though with 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.400 his style play, I mean, it was boring. Let's face 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.440 it's his greatest moments for twelve foot bank shots. He 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.440 just was not a highlight player. You're right so with 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.280 how that. But if he was in LA, would the 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.719 LA and this have overwhelmed that and he'd be a 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.520 bigger name. I'm not sure, but you're so so low keyed. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.320 But he couldn't have been anybody but himself. I don't 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.960 think where he went. I don't think Oh san Antonio 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.520 made him that. That's who he is. If you're around him, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:21.280 he is chill, he is mellow. He steps on the floor. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.400 Avery Johnson and Vinie del Negro would tell me, don't 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:29.239 let Tim fool you like. He has a temper. He's competitive, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.880 and he's got five titles. He was an All Star? 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:40.040 What fifteen times I'm guessing offensively, what first second third 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:45.000 team All Defense? How many times first second team, third 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.960 team regular NBA? You know, a regular season All Star. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.360 It's just we don't. He wasn't exciting. And I had 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.120 a conversation with his former teammate a couple of weeks 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:02.559 ago Matt Bonner and he said, look, Tim's one of 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.640 the five greatest players of all time. Now you know, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.960 he's obviously territorial here, and you start to look at it, 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.440 and you could make a case that Tim Duncan is 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.360 one of the top five players of all time. It's 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.960 just there's no moment where you go, Wow, did you 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.880 see what Duncan did. It's one of those where you 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.079 look at the box score afterwards and you go, I 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.959 get twenty five fifteen, you know, five blocks, four assists. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.200 I know he played with great players. Nobody knew Tony 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.640 Parker was a great player. Nobody knew man who was 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:42.000 a great player. We knew David Robinson was. We didn't 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.560 know how good Great Popovich was as a coach. It 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.959 just kind of came together. But it helps when your 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.520 star player falls in line with what the coach wants 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:59.200 everybody to do. And he would yell at Tim, Yes, mclovin, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.720 I haven't the all time ESPN list. It was a 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.120 big deal two years ago. Tim is eight on there, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.440 right ahead of Larry Bird and right, I'm sorry, Larry 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.400 Bird seven and Kobe's nine. So he sandwiched at eight, 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.480 which is not far off the top five. But he's 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:18.800 got five titles. He has three MVPs in the finals. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:24.080 He's got two MVPs during the regular season. Fifteen time 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:30.040 All Star, ten time first team, eight times first team 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:36.520 All Defense, seven times second team All Defense. So fifteen 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.920 years he was first or second All Defense. He was 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:44.840 Rookie of the Year. I mean, that's a decorated resume there. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.360 But who could you possibly knock out of the top five? 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:52.280 These are like Russell, Chamberlain, Magic Bird Jordan kind of well, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.760 you have Russell and Chamberlain, and that's a different era 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.960 because you know, I get into this argument and I 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:04.400 hate doing it. Um Bill Russell's the most decorated. Does 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.360 that make him, you know, one of the top five players? 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.760 You know, wil't won a title, got a ton of scoring. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.520 I mean, he's got you know, you almost have to 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.760 take you almost have to start this in the seventies 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.079 or maybe the eighties, just to be fair to those players, 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.319 because Oscar Oscar is in there as well. It was 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.719 just a different game. But I think that's when you 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.520 talk you know about generational Is Tim Duncan there with 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:40.040 Michael Jordan, And the answer is yes, he is. I mean, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.800 his resume is every bit. He won five titles, you know, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:49.640 three times, the MVP in the finals. Where do you 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.640 find fault just because he didn't give you a highlight? 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.720 That's really it. If Tim Duncan had a couple of 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:03.240 Vince Carter highlights, he see McGrady highlights, took down a 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:08.600 backboard one time, like Garnett. Garnett was in your face. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.400 He was there, like you knew Garnett was on the floor. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.760 Tim what you could tune in and go who's the 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.320 best player on the floor, and it might take you 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.200 a little while before you realize that it was Tim 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.760 Duncan because Jun Nobley was far more exciting. Parker was 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.199 far more exciting. The Admiral was far more exciting. But 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:33.400 Tim played in accordance to his personality. There was fire, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.600 but it was never on the surface. Yeah. Point, this 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.439 is a very weird stat. Stay with me in this. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.520 Tim Duncan is the fifteenth leading score in NBA history. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.280 He's the sixth leading rebounder in NBA history. He's the 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.160 fifth all time in block shots. He never led the 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.960 league in any category ever for a season. He was 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.640 never the leading score in the league. He was never 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.760 the leading block guy, he was never leading rebound guy, 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.439 and his entire career he never led the league in 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.760 any of those categories. But he's he's one of the 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.120 few people was top fifteen all of them. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.200 I'm a cloth. Would you buy this that? You know? 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.480 The antithesis of him is Shack, who did everything with 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.040 such bravado, and he was in Superman movies and he 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.240 got all the attempt regardless of how you compare him 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.520 as players, just like sort of persona. Why Shack, which 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.360 is such a big persona. Yeah, well, just his presence 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.960 when you saw him on the floor, and then the 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.680 style that he played, just the physicality dunking. He was 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:33.480 very expressive. You know for a guy named Duncan. How 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.760 many dunks did Tim have in his career because he 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.280 just I think I just don't remember him, you know, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:46.120 doing some violent dunk on somebody, posterizing somebody his name 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.560 should be Tim, you know a layup or you know 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:53.600 Tim bangshot. But Tim Duncan, if you could choose, you 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:59.120 start your team with Kobe, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, and 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:06.240 I'm gonna give you these guys for fifteen years. It's 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:10.520 hard not to take Tim Duncan it is, I mean, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:16.760 I would, I would say Kobe. Ah yeah, yeah, See, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.280 Kobe is the next best thing to Michael Jordan. Yes, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.920 gotta start with Kobe. You don't have to. I mean, okay, 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.440 I'm getting opinion. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.120 yell at you my bed. Yeah, you get your hair 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.560 cut and you look like you're about thirteen, just trying 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:44.040 to Kobe will give you excitement every night, sell some tickets. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.600 Tim would not. Tim will make you money when you 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:53.200 get to the postseason. But then Kobe one. Kobe won titles, 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.120 five titles. Yes, Nick, what year are we talking about, 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.920 Like when they both came in the league. Are now? 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.320 Because I don't know, they're not twenty twenty one players. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.960 Kobe probably could have been, but no, now, centers are 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:08.320 a little less valuable. Yes, if you're talking about today's NBA, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.960 then you're probably looking, say, anybody else on that list. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.960 Although Kobe could have become, you know, a dangerous three 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.080 point shooter, maybe Duncan becomes a joker type who moves 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:25.040 outside a little more. Yeah. I could see that KG. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.360 I mean, KG had a little bit of arranged I 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.360 just don't. He didn't. He doesn't. He's not Kevin Garnett 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.720 or Kevin Durant. Yeah, I'm going with Kobe on this list, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.480 not shockingly, but you know, d Garnett had a run 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.400 where in the middle of his career between like twenty 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:44.280 four and thirty, He's average like twenty four, fourteen, five 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.040 and two. Yeah, I mean two steals, two blocks, five assists, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.560 thirteen and a half rebounds, twenty four points. He had everything. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:56.560 But he was doing that for a bad team. Yeah, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.640 I mean they're pumped up numbers, they are, man, he 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.240 was doing it. Tim was doing it in big games, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.280 like all of those games with the Spurs, they were 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:10.680 important games. Ye. If we're getting down, but I could 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.800 say after the break, but I just found the list 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.919 of the three biggest Hall of Fame snubs from post 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.560 two thousand. Webber was number one on this list, but 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.920 it was from last week and he got in. Okay, 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.000 I'm curious if you can name the three guys. They're 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:31.760 guys right in our wheelhouse. Can you give us some hints. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.119 One of them was on that Detroit team that we 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.720 talked about with Ben Wallace, and I did not realize 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:41.320 that this guy was not Rip Hamilton. Not Rip Hamilton. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.920 Another another fellow big man on that team with the 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.400 same Rashid. Yeah, Rashid because he went to three finals, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.920 had eight conference finals, four All Stars. He's he's better 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.560 than Ben Wallace. Yes, yeah, because remember he was on 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.840 that Blazer's team that went to Ben one defensive player 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.680 of the year, and that resonates here. Ben was not 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.240 an all around polished player at all, but hey, he's 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.560 the defensive player of the year. Yeah, mclub. The Rashid 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.159 if that Portland remember that great Portland team, if they 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.879 had just gotten over the hump, then he'd be a 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.159 Hall of Famer. I Rashid was a great player. It 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:27.800 was just Rashid's toughest opponent was Rashid. And it's like, hey, Rashid, 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:33.560 who's guarding you me? My personality? O, I'm gonna take 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.840 your personality probably a favorite here, yeah club? Yeah, the 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.080 two real quick, because you guys love these guys. Sean 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.560 Marion with the Suns and Tim Hardaway, who I actually 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.200 would have thought might be a Hall of Famer. I 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.200 didn't know he wasn't the former, the older Tim Hardaway. Yeah. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:55.679 I loved Hardaway, fascinated by by Tim, But I'd have 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.840 to look at his numbers. You know. I don't think 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.359 Sean Marion ever on a title, and he could be 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.720 a product of the system as well. But how a 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.159 guy could get his shot off and he shot it 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.560 like almost you know, from his belt buckle. It was 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.359 quick blue, yeah. Pol Tim Hardaway's career in Gold States 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.640 started grade twenty four, twenty five, twenty six years old. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.719 He was an All star. He was averaging like twenty 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.920 three and ten and then he had a knee injury 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:23.840 at age twenty seven took him out of the league 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.959 and he kind of cooled off. He became more like 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.960 a seventeen and eight guy for the rest of his career, 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.920 and he wasn't hot again because he bounced around the league. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.240 He gets some good days in Miami. He had that 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.720 crossover though, that was and he had this ability to 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:43.680 bump you with his off arm, but he would crossover, 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.800 bump you, create separation, and he didn't have a great 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:52.000 shot like the rotation on it, but that was that 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.760 was the first crossover. I think that was before Iverson. Right, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.359 he's an innovator that's got to help, yeah, contribut usance 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.240 to the game. All right, twenty one after the hour, 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.840 Bill Plashki will join us. 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Here comes that? 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:21.160 What stat of the day? Great columnists for the La Times, 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.000 Star of Around the Horn, Bill Plashki, joining us so 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.240 on the program. Bill, thanks for joining us. Level of 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:32.160 concern over repeating the Lakers or the Dodgers right now, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.439 more people are freaking out about the Lakers, really freaking out. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.960 What's Lebron James doing in the game last night so 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.280 late in the blowout which it didn't matter, and he 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.400 turned his angle again. Yeah, people people think the Dodgers, 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.680 And I agree the Dodgers. They've got a lot of 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.320 season left, they got great pitching, They're gonna make the playoffs. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:53.920 They're gonna be fine. They may they may not be 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.240 the best team in baseball history, as I predicted before 0:21:56.240 --> 0:22:01.600 the season, not one of my miner moments, but um, 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.880 but they're gonna be They're gonna be fine. The Lakers. 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.640 People are freaking out because Lebron's you know, they don't 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:12.080 know how Lebron's ankle is, AD's fragile. They if they 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:16.080 win this thing, it'll be Lebron's greatest achievement ever because 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.479 no team's ever come from a seven seed to win it. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.159 No teams ever had to win seventeen games to win it, 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.480 and they gotta do it all. Lebron's back, and he's 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.399 been hurt most of the year, and he keeps getting 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.440 hurt and Ads always do you know, it's when Ad 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.600 hits the floor, He's always win seen, he's always grimacing, 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.080 he's always groaning, So he's got all that going for him. 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.520 So yeah, there's there's quite a bit of concern about 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.840 the Lakers. I think people think they'll they'll get they'll 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:42.920 beat Golden State, or at least they'll get it. They'll 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.680 get him this seven or eight seed, and they'll probably 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.160 win the first round. But I don't think people think 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.720 they can beat the Clippers, and I think that's what 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.159 people are really concerned about out here. Do you think 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:58.080 the Clippers tried to avoid the Lakers strategic Absolutely so 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.040 of the Nuggets, they were both fighting each other, trying 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.520 to invest all their players. Absolutely, they're trying to avoid 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.440 the Lakers. They're trying to wait. They're trying to wait 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.919 to get them to the last round of the of 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.240 the conference finals, but that may not work. By then, 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.840 the Lakers could be in rhythm and Lebron could have 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.320 his confidence and they could be rolling by them. I 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.720 think you want to get the Lakers early. Yeah, I 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.080 agree with that, But I was wondering about with Lebron 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.200 and load management, like, do you think that there's any 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.920 chance that maybe he, you know, stayed out even longer, 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.680 just as precautionary measures so he'd be ready. Absolutely. Oh, 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:36.679 I wrote before the season he should take at least 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.880 one one or two one vacation. He was mad from 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.520 the very start. Remember this, Dan. He was upset at 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:45.239 the seventy one game, you know, break that's all they had. 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.679 He wanted to start the season after January, so he 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.280 was upset about that already. Yes, I think absolutely he 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.359 held out, and that's why I think the sky's not falling. 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.560 I think Lebron and a d I think they're both 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.639 going to be fine. I think Lakers is gonna win 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.439 in our championship. But I think, and I think one 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.199 of the reasons is you're gonna wake They're gonna wake 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.440