Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangs
Speaker 1: all here, it's our two. We'll talk to the great
Speaker 1: columnists the La Times. Bill Plishki will join us. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about Kobe Bryant's Hall of Fame induction speech delivered
Speaker 1: by his wife who did delivered it with such grace
Speaker 1: and poise and class. Reggie Miller, hall of Famer, will
Speaker 1: join us. We'll recap some of the speeches there. And
Speaker 1: Rudy tom Jonovich, who got into the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: former great player and of course coach of the Rockets
Speaker 1: when they won back to back titles. He said the
Speaker 1: following that kind of created a different kind of conversation
Speaker 1: today than we expected. I want to speak up for
Speaker 1: Robert Are to be inductive into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He is truly a legendary player. He made so many
Speaker 1: clutch shots. He's got seven rings to prove it. This
Speaker 1: is where he belongs. All right, Well, we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Reggie about that coming up. The NBA Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: induction on Saturday was a bittersweet event, though, because Vanessa
Speaker 1: Bryant's moving speech about Kobe was a reminder of what
Speaker 1: made him so special, and she told you know, quite
Speaker 1: a few stories, one that he was hurting, but told
Speaker 1: her he wanted to play for the fans who stayed
Speaker 1: up to watch him play. Load management was not part
Speaker 1: of his vocabulary. He was old school and Vanessa's speech
Speaker 1: was a reminder of what made him so special. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't just physical talent he certainly had that, he
Speaker 1: was just the competitiveness also basketball IQ like, the brilliance
Speaker 1: of understanding the game, understanding what defenses we're going to
Speaker 1: try to do. We saw that in the man standing
Speaker 1: next to Vanessa. We saw it at a high level
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. The intangibles that's what separates all stars from
Speaker 1: all time greats. And a lot of memories came back
Speaker 1: this weekend. It's sad we didn't get to hear Kobe
Speaker 1: speak because he probably would have taken a page out
Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, maybe taken a
Speaker 1: couple of shots at Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan in there,
Speaker 1: but he would have delivered in a big moment like
Speaker 1: he always did as a player. But credit to Vanessa
Speaker 1: for sharing that special Bryant Family Magic with all of
Speaker 1: us on Saturday Night. Here is Vanessa talking about Kobe
Speaker 1: being on a different level. Kobe was on a different level.
Speaker 1: He never took shortcuts when it came to basketball. He
Speaker 1: gave this game his all. Kobe played through injury after injury,
Speaker 1: to name a few. He had ivs administered during halftimes
Speaker 1: to play for food poisoning and the flu. He played
Speaker 1: with a broken nose. He had a broken finger and
Speaker 1: had it snap back in place just enough to finish
Speaker 1: the game. He also taught himself how to use his
Speaker 1: left hand to play the rest of the season while
Speaker 1: his finger healed. He even swished two free throws with
Speaker 1: the torn achilles and walked off the court on his own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were moments where he was not coming out of
Speaker 1: a game and he was going to stay in the
Speaker 1: game even if it man he was going to have
Speaker 1: to shoot left handed. But when you look back when
Speaker 1: he tore his achilles, we didn't know it was torn.
Speaker 1: But he was going to stay in the game. It
Speaker 1: was a wonderful weekend, really was. And you know Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1: I met Tim when he first got to San Antonio,
Speaker 1: and I was there when they made him carry the bags.
Speaker 1: He was a rookie and the veterans made him carry bags.
Speaker 1: And I went to dinner with him, and I realized
Speaker 1: he was really funny, really interesting, had all of these tattoos.
Speaker 1: He loved collecting knives like you just never with Tim
Speaker 1: duncan you go, uh yeah, a great player, but we
Speaker 1: don't know much about him. I found that he had
Speaker 1: a great sense of humor and he was so driven.
Speaker 1: At one point he wanted to find out when ESPN
Speaker 1: did the fifty Greatest Athletes of All time, and he
Speaker 1: kept badgering me because I was hosting the show, and
Speaker 1: he goes, you gotta tell me, like, it's Jordan one,
Speaker 1: It's Jordan number one. I said, I can't tell you,
Speaker 1: and at the time I didn't know, and I said,
Speaker 1: win the title and I'll tell you. He won the title.
Speaker 1: Comes in after they won the title. First thing he says,
Speaker 1: is Jordan number one? And I said yes. He goes, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. It was just he just was a fun
Speaker 1: person to be around, but he never wanted to share
Speaker 1: any of that. I tried to get him on the
Speaker 1: show a variety of time. He just didn't want it.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't care about it. He never cared
Speaker 1: about it. And even now I think if he probably
Speaker 1: campaigned a little bit more when he was playing, he
Speaker 1: might be a top five player of all time, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe even higher. He just didn't care. His competitiveness was
Speaker 1: never on display. It was there. He just didn't show
Speaker 1: it like Kevin Garnett. He didn't show it like Kobe,
Speaker 1: but it was there. And what a prideful person. But
Speaker 1: his speech was the fact that he didn't write it down.
Speaker 1: Everybody else had speeches on teleprompters. Jim just went up
Speaker 1: there and talked. I'm surprised he got dressed up like
Speaker 1: Tim is just a bigger version of Barry Sanders where
Speaker 1: you just go They're different. They're just different, you know,
Speaker 1: a taller version of John Stockton. They're just they just played.
Speaker 1: They didn't ask for anything, but they gave you everything.
Speaker 1: And there was something poignant about how the people who
Speaker 1: mean so much to him, Popovich went to visit him
Speaker 1: in the Virgin Islands, and Tim thought that that was normal,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. Popovich wanted to know Tim wanted to
Speaker 1: know his family, really wanted to know who he was,
Speaker 1: what he was all about and they developed that great relationship.
Speaker 1: So that was great. That was great to hear. It
Speaker 1: was just fun hearing the stories. It's great seeing those
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers be able to come back. But a
Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. Yeah, Seeden, I like that Tim Duncan Cootes.
Speaker 1: If you added both of my parents together, there would
Speaker 1: still be zero basketball knowledge, no nothing. He was He
Speaker 1: was a swimmer. Yeah, and I remember, you know, at
Speaker 1: wake Forest. It's like, Okay, oh that guy at wake
Speaker 1: Forest seems like he's pretty good. But he was at
Speaker 1: wake Forest. If he was in Kentucky to go, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that guys he's best player of scene, it
Speaker 1: was like there was something, Well he's at wake Forest.
Speaker 1: But Tim Duncan had that competitive drive, but it was
Speaker 1: always like it was always hidden. But you can make
Speaker 1: a case he deserves to be recognized as one of
Speaker 1: the two or three greatest players of all time. Consistency
Speaker 1: winning titles offense, defense, He did everything you wanted. He
Speaker 1: just did it quietly in a town that suited his personality.
Speaker 1: Had he played on a bigger stage, had he played
Speaker 1: in New York, had he played in LA, we would
Speaker 1: remember Tim Duncan differently. I truly believe that if he's
Speaker 1: winning titles, there would be a statue at Staples. If
Speaker 1: he was winning a title titles in New York, there'd
Speaker 1: be a statue. He's in San Antonio him couldn't care
Speaker 1: less about how he's honored or have a statue there. Yeah. Point,
Speaker 1: it's also so weird how he ended up in San Antonio.
Speaker 1: Five ninety six Spurs with David Robinson and Popovich before
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan got there, were fifty nine to twenty three.
Speaker 1: They're first in the Midwestern Division. They're great. Back injury
Speaker 1: to Tim Duncan, they finished sixth. In the next season,
Speaker 1: they were twenty and sixty two. They get deep in
Speaker 1: the playoff lottery, they get Tim Duncan. First year with
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, they're right back on top twenty fifty six games. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that it might have been encouraged for David
Speaker 1: Robinson to not play those final games for the regular
Speaker 1: season when he came back with his back injury, and
Speaker 1: then they win the lottery. That's when Rick Patino thought, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm coaching the Celtics and we're getting Tim Duncan, and
Speaker 1: I am set for the next decade or so. And
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Obviously, Yes, McLevin. I wonder though with
Speaker 1: his style play, I mean, it was boring. Let's face
Speaker 1: it's his greatest moments for twelve foot bank shots. He
Speaker 1: just was not a highlight player. You're right so with
Speaker 1: how that. But if he was in LA, would the
Speaker 1: LA and this have overwhelmed that and he'd be a
Speaker 1: bigger name. I'm not sure, but you're so so low keyed.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't have been anybody but himself. I don't
Speaker 1: think where he went. I don't think Oh san Antonio
Speaker 1: made him that. That's who he is. If you're around him,
Speaker 1: he is chill, he is mellow. He steps on the floor.
Speaker 1: Avery Johnson and Vinie del Negro would tell me, don't
Speaker 1: let Tim fool you like. He has a temper. He's competitive,
Speaker 1: and he's got five titles. He was an All Star?
Speaker 1: What fifteen times I'm guessing offensively, what first second third
Speaker 1: team All Defense? How many times first second team, third
Speaker 1: team regular NBA? You know, a regular season All Star.
Speaker 1: It's just we don't. He wasn't exciting. And I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with his former teammate a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago Matt Bonner and he said, look, Tim's one of
Speaker 1: the five greatest players of all time. Now you know,
Speaker 1: he's obviously territorial here, and you start to look at it,
Speaker 1: and you could make a case that Tim Duncan is
Speaker 1: one of the top five players of all time. It's
Speaker 1: just there's no moment where you go, Wow, did you
Speaker 1: see what Duncan did. It's one of those where you
Speaker 1: look at the box score afterwards and you go, I
Speaker 1: get twenty five fifteen, you know, five blocks, four assists.
Speaker 1: I know he played with great players. Nobody knew Tony
Speaker 1: Parker was a great player. Nobody knew man who was
Speaker 1: a great player. We knew David Robinson was. We didn't
Speaker 1: know how good Great Popovich was as a coach. It
Speaker 1: just kind of came together. But it helps when your
Speaker 1: star player falls in line with what the coach wants
Speaker 1: everybody to do. And he would yell at Tim, Yes, mclovin,
Speaker 1: I haven't the all time ESPN list. It was a
Speaker 1: big deal two years ago. Tim is eight on there,
Speaker 1: right ahead of Larry Bird and right, I'm sorry, Larry
Speaker 1: Bird seven and Kobe's nine. So he sandwiched at eight,
Speaker 1: which is not far off the top five. But he's
Speaker 1: got five titles. He has three MVPs in the finals.
Speaker 1: He's got two MVPs during the regular season. Fifteen time
Speaker 1: All Star, ten time first team, eight times first team
Speaker 1: All Defense, seven times second team All Defense. So fifteen
Speaker 1: years he was first or second All Defense. He was
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. I mean, that's a decorated resume there.
Speaker 1: But who could you possibly knock out of the top five?
Speaker 1: These are like Russell, Chamberlain, Magic Bird Jordan kind of well,
Speaker 1: you have Russell and Chamberlain, and that's a different era
Speaker 1: because you know, I get into this argument and I
Speaker 1: hate doing it. Um Bill Russell's the most decorated. Does
Speaker 1: that make him, you know, one of the top five players?
Speaker 1: You know, wil't won a title, got a ton of scoring.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got you know, you almost have to
Speaker 1: take you almost have to start this in the seventies
Speaker 1: or maybe the eighties, just to be fair to those players,
Speaker 1: because Oscar Oscar is in there as well. It was
Speaker 1: just a different game. But I think that's when you
Speaker 1: talk you know about generational Is Tim Duncan there with
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, And the answer is yes, he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: his resume is every bit. He won five titles, you know,
Speaker 1: three times, the MVP in the finals. Where do you
Speaker 1: find fault just because he didn't give you a highlight?
Speaker 1: That's really it. If Tim Duncan had a couple of
Speaker 1: Vince Carter highlights, he see McGrady highlights, took down a
Speaker 1: backboard one time, like Garnett. Garnett was in your face.
Speaker 1: He was there, like you knew Garnett was on the floor.
Speaker 1: Tim what you could tune in and go who's the
Speaker 1: best player on the floor, and it might take you
Speaker 1: a little while before you realize that it was Tim
Speaker 1: Duncan because Jun Nobley was far more exciting. Parker was
Speaker 1: far more exciting. The Admiral was far more exciting. But
Speaker 1: Tim played in accordance to his personality. There was fire,
Speaker 1: but it was never on the surface. Yeah. Point, this
Speaker 1: is a very weird stat. Stay with me in this.
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan is the fifteenth leading score in NBA history.
Speaker 1: He's the sixth leading rebounder in NBA history. He's the
Speaker 1: fifth all time in block shots. He never led the
Speaker 1: league in any category ever for a season. He was
Speaker 1: never the leading score in the league. He was never
Speaker 1: the leading block guy, he was never leading rebound guy,
Speaker 1: and his entire career he never led the league in
Speaker 1: any of those categories. But he's he's one of the
Speaker 1: few people was top fifteen all of them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a cloth. Would you buy this that? You know?
Speaker 1: The antithesis of him is Shack, who did everything with
Speaker 1: such bravado, and he was in Superman movies and he
Speaker 1: got all the attempt regardless of how you compare him
Speaker 1: as players, just like sort of persona. Why Shack, which
Speaker 1: is such a big persona. Yeah, well, just his presence
Speaker 1: when you saw him on the floor, and then the
Speaker 1: style that he played, just the physicality dunking. He was
Speaker 1: very expressive. You know for a guy named Duncan. How
Speaker 1: many dunks did Tim have in his career because he
Speaker 1: just I think I just don't remember him, you know,
Speaker 1: doing some violent dunk on somebody, posterizing somebody his name
Speaker 1: should be Tim, you know a layup or you know
Speaker 1: Tim bangshot. But Tim Duncan, if you could choose, you
Speaker 1: start your team with Kobe, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you these guys for fifteen years. It's
Speaker 1: hard not to take Tim Duncan it is, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would, I would say Kobe. Ah yeah, yeah, See,
Speaker 1: Kobe is the next best thing to Michael Jordan. Yes,
Speaker 1: gotta start with Kobe. You don't have to. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm getting opinion. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to
Speaker 1: yell at you my bed. Yeah, you get your hair
Speaker 1: cut and you look like you're about thirteen, just trying
Speaker 1: to Kobe will give you excitement every night, sell some tickets.
Speaker 1: Tim would not. Tim will make you money when you
Speaker 1: get to the postseason. But then Kobe one. Kobe won titles,
Speaker 1: five titles. Yes, Nick, what year are we talking about,
Speaker 1: Like when they both came in the league. Are now?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, they're not twenty twenty one players.
Speaker 1: Kobe probably could have been, but no, now, centers are
Speaker 1: a little less valuable. Yes, if you're talking about today's NBA,
Speaker 1: then you're probably looking, say, anybody else on that list.
Speaker 1: Although Kobe could have become, you know, a dangerous three
Speaker 1: point shooter, maybe Duncan becomes a joker type who moves
Speaker 1: outside a little more. Yeah. I could see that KG.
Speaker 1: I mean, KG had a little bit of arranged I
Speaker 1: just don't. He didn't. He doesn't. He's not Kevin Garnett
Speaker 1: or Kevin Durant. Yeah, I'm going with Kobe on this list,
Speaker 1: not shockingly, but you know, d Garnett had a run
Speaker 1: where in the middle of his career between like twenty
Speaker 1: four and thirty, He's average like twenty four, fourteen, five
Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, I mean two steals, two blocks, five assists,
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half rebounds, twenty four points. He had everything.
Speaker 1: But he was doing that for a bad team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're pumped up numbers, they are, man, he
Speaker 1: was doing it. Tim was doing it in big games,
Speaker 1: like all of those games with the Spurs, they were
Speaker 1: important games. Ye. If we're getting down, but I could
Speaker 1: say after the break, but I just found the list
Speaker 1: of the three biggest Hall of Fame snubs from post
Speaker 1: two thousand. Webber was number one on this list, but
Speaker 1: it was from last week and he got in. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm curious if you can name the three guys. They're
Speaker 1: guys right in our wheelhouse. Can you give us some hints.
Speaker 1: One of them was on that Detroit team that we
Speaker 1: talked about with Ben Wallace, and I did not realize
Speaker 1: that this guy was not Rip Hamilton. Not Rip Hamilton.
Speaker 1: Another another fellow big man on that team with the
Speaker 1: same Rashid. Yeah, Rashid because he went to three finals,
Speaker 1: had eight conference finals, four All Stars. He's he's better
Speaker 1: than Ben Wallace. Yes, yeah, because remember he was on
Speaker 1: that Blazer's team that went to Ben one defensive player
Speaker 1: of the year, and that resonates here. Ben was not
Speaker 1: an all around polished player at all, but hey, he's
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year. Yeah, mclub. The Rashid
Speaker 1: if that Portland remember that great Portland team, if they
Speaker 1: had just gotten over the hump, then he'd be a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I Rashid was a great player. It
Speaker 1: was just Rashid's toughest opponent was Rashid. And it's like, hey, Rashid,
Speaker 1: who's guarding you me? My personality? O, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: your personality probably a favorite here, yeah club? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: two real quick, because you guys love these guys. Sean
Speaker 1: Marion with the Suns and Tim Hardaway, who I actually
Speaker 1: would have thought might be a Hall of Famer. I
Speaker 1: didn't know he wasn't the former, the older Tim Hardaway. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved Hardaway, fascinated by by Tim, But I'd have
Speaker 1: to look at his numbers. You know. I don't think
Speaker 1: Sean Marion ever on a title, and he could be
Speaker 1: a product of the system as well. But how a
Speaker 1: guy could get his shot off and he shot it
Speaker 1: like almost you know, from his belt buckle. It was
Speaker 1: quick blue, yeah. Pol Tim Hardaway's career in Gold States
Speaker 1: started grade twenty four, twenty five, twenty six years old.
Speaker 1: He was an All star. He was averaging like twenty
Speaker 1: three and ten and then he had a knee injury
Speaker 1: at age twenty seven took him out of the league
Speaker 1: and he kind of cooled off. He became more like
Speaker 1: a seventeen and eight guy for the rest of his career,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't hot again because he bounced around the league.
Speaker 1: He gets some good days in Miami. He had that
Speaker 1: crossover though, that was and he had this ability to
Speaker 1: bump you with his off arm, but he would crossover,
Speaker 1: bump you, create separation, and he didn't have a great
Speaker 1: shot like the rotation on it, but that was that
Speaker 1: was the first crossover. I think that was before Iverson. Right,
Speaker 1: he's an innovator that's got to help, yeah, contribut usance
Speaker 1: to the game. All right, twenty one after the hour,
Speaker 1: Bill Plashki will join us. We'll talk about the Lakers
Speaker 1: going into this playoff game with Steph Curry. Albert Pujols
Speaker 1: is signing with the Dodgers. We'll get the temperature of
Speaker 1: LA with Bill coming up twenty one after the hour.
Speaker 1: Back after this. It's amazing. Discover matches all the cash
Speaker 1: back you earn on your credit card at the end
Speaker 1: of your first year automatically. There's no limit on how
Speaker 1: much you can earn, which is amazing. In fact, even
Speaker 1: more amazing because of all the places where Discover is accepted.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the places in the United States
Speaker 1: that take credit cards take Discover. So when it comes
Speaker 1: to Discover, getting used to hearing the word yes more
Speaker 1: often and you can learn more Discover dot com slash yes.
Speaker 1: That's Discover dot com slash yes twenty twenty one Nielsen
Speaker 1: Report limitations do apply. Thanks for listening to The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every
Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on
Speaker 1: the cock app. Last Name is Duncan. How many dunks
Speaker 1: did he have in his career? He had eleven hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one. Stay stat of the day, but stat
Speaker 1: of the day? Stat of the day? Here comes that?
Speaker 1: What stat of the day? Great columnists for the La Times,
Speaker 1: Star of Around the Horn, Bill Plashki, joining us so
Speaker 1: on the program. Bill, thanks for joining us. Level of
Speaker 1: concern over repeating the Lakers or the Dodgers right now,
Speaker 1: more people are freaking out about the Lakers, really freaking out.
Speaker 1: What's Lebron James doing in the game last night so
Speaker 1: late in the blowout which it didn't matter, and he
Speaker 1: turned his angle again. Yeah, people people think the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: And I agree the Dodgers. They've got a lot of
Speaker 1: season left, they got great pitching, They're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be fine. They may they may not be
Speaker 1: the best team in baseball history, as I predicted before
Speaker 1: the season, not one of my miner moments, but um,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be They're gonna be fine. The Lakers.
Speaker 1: People are freaking out because Lebron's you know, they don't
Speaker 1: know how Lebron's ankle is, AD's fragile. They if they
Speaker 1: win this thing, it'll be Lebron's greatest achievement ever because
Speaker 1: no team's ever come from a seven seed to win it.
Speaker 1: No teams ever had to win seventeen games to win it,
Speaker 1: and they gotta do it all. Lebron's back, and he's
Speaker 1: been hurt most of the year, and he keeps getting
Speaker 1: hurt and Ads always do you know, it's when Ad
Speaker 1: hits the floor, He's always win seen, he's always grimacing,
Speaker 1: he's always groaning, So he's got all that going for him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's quite a bit of concern about
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I think people think they'll they'll get they'll
Speaker 1: beat Golden State, or at least they'll get it. They'll
Speaker 1: get him this seven or eight seed, and they'll probably
Speaker 1: win the first round. But I don't think people think
Speaker 1: they can beat the Clippers, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: people are really concerned about out here. Do you think
Speaker 1: the Clippers tried to avoid the Lakers strategic Absolutely so
Speaker 1: of the Nuggets, they were both fighting each other, trying
Speaker 1: to invest all their players. Absolutely, they're trying to avoid
Speaker 1: the Lakers. They're trying to wait. They're trying to wait
Speaker 1: to get them to the last round of the of
Speaker 1: the conference finals, but that may not work. By then,
Speaker 1: the Lakers could be in rhythm and Lebron could have
Speaker 1: his confidence and they could be rolling by them. I
Speaker 1: think you want to get the Lakers early. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that, But I was wondering about with Lebron
Speaker 1: and load management, like, do you think that there's any
Speaker 1: chance that maybe he, you know, stayed out even longer,
Speaker 1: just as precautionary measures so he'd be ready. Absolutely. Oh,
Speaker 1: I wrote before the season he should take at least
Speaker 1: one one or two one vacation. He was mad from
Speaker 1: the very start. Remember this, Dan. He was upset at
Speaker 1: the seventy one game, you know, break that's all they had.
Speaker 1: He wanted to start the season after January, so he
Speaker 1: was upset about that already. Yes, I think absolutely he
Speaker 1: held out, and that's why I think the sky's not falling.
Speaker 1: I think Lebron and a d I think they're both
Speaker 1: going to be fine. I think Lakers is gonna win
Speaker 1: in our championship. But I think, and I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons is you're gonna wake They're gonna wake
Speaker 1: up a month from now. Everybody's gonna realize how rest
Speaker 1: of Lebron is and how rest of the ad is.
Speaker 1: And I think clearly, I think he nursed an ankle,
Speaker 1: and I think he clearly wanted the vacation and smart
Speaker 1: for him. The NBA messed up schedule this year, and
Speaker 1: the NBA was so messed up. You all talked about
Speaker 1: him on the show. He had knowledge them. All the injuries,
Speaker 1: all the forced games, the rush games, of compressed schedule.
Speaker 1: It made for a terrible, terrible regular season, and Lebron
Speaker 1: was just getting you know, was just paying him back.
Speaker 1: He was just getting his They do well against Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: but there's always that if Steph somehow goes crazy. Here,
Speaker 1: Steph Kine score one hundred points. I mean, Kenny well,
Speaker 1: but let's say he gets forties, something like when doesn't
Speaker 1: become dangerous here, Oh he's got to get I just
Speaker 1: don't think it everyb becomes dangerous. I just don't think
Speaker 1: that's I just don't think the Warriors that they're great
Speaker 1: to get this far. They're they're a worthy opponent. But no,
Speaker 1: Steph's whole team, and I don't think it. I don't think,
Speaker 1: and I don't think. I don't think the Lakers think
Speaker 1: that either, I think they their sites are set on
Speaker 1: Phoenix right now. I think probably. I think they think
Speaker 1: they could beat Golden State. I think that I think
Speaker 1: and I would agree with him on that. I don't
Speaker 1: think this is but it will be the most watched game.
Speaker 1: Remember that the last time he played it was like
Speaker 1: thirty million people watched it. There'll be a me it's
Speaker 1: just gonna be the most watch playoff game this early
Speaker 1: ever in history. But I just don't think it'll be
Speaker 1: much for a contest. But do you think he truly
Speaker 1: believes Steph Curry's the MVP because his buddy Chris Paul
Speaker 1: has been equally valuable for the Phoenix Suns. But Lebron
Speaker 1: campaigning late for Steph Curry. No, Lebron thinks he's gonna
Speaker 1: he should be the MVP. He always does thinks. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just he's just saying that. He was just saying
Speaker 1: that to jack up the game and get you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe getting his STEP's head a little bit that
Speaker 1: that's what he was he was saying that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he believes. I think he would vote
Speaker 1: for Chris Paul for He probably vote for Joel MB
Speaker 1: before he vote for vote for he'd vote for Yoki. Probably,
Speaker 1: he'd vote for himself. He doesn't think Rod, doesn't think
Speaker 1: anybody should be MVP ever but him any year, ever, period.
Speaker 1: He's built Planski of the La Times, contributor to Around
Speaker 1: the Horn. What was waking Dan? When I started the
Speaker 1: Stow I was a star. Now I'm just a contributor.
Speaker 1: I'll be lucky to be a freelance about time of
Speaker 1: the show in you said star, I said contributor, So
Speaker 1: I covered both both kind of Woody Page just text
Speaker 1: me and said he's a contributor, you're not a star.
Speaker 1: So he's right, He's actually correct about that accurate. Your
Speaker 1: takeaway from the Hall of Fame weekend was what it
Speaker 1: sucked because Kobe wasn't there. I don't care what. We
Speaker 1: wrote a million stories before this ceremonies. We talked about
Speaker 1: Kobe and wrote the whole history of his life. It
Speaker 1: was about Kobe and he wasn't there. I mean it
Speaker 1: just it really stunk to me. It was really Obviously,
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan's speech was incredible. I thought that was really, really,
Speaker 1: really incredible. Him talking about Pop was really incredible. Rudy
Speaker 1: T's speech was off the hook. Off the off, but
Speaker 1: I missed Kobe, and Kobe should have been there to
Speaker 1: exchange jazz with the guys. He should have been there
Speaker 1: to thank you know, Vanessa didn't thank any Laker, and
Speaker 1: he didn't not mention any Laker in her speech because
Speaker 1: she didn't know what Kobe would have said. She wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna speak for her late husband, So a lot of
Speaker 1: Lakers went unrecognized. I think a lot of the emotion
Speaker 1: was drained out of the thing. I just thought it,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know I'm supposed to be emotional about it,
Speaker 1: thinking it's so cool that Kobe's in, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: he's in, but it really sucked that he wasn't there.
Speaker 1: It really stunk. It was really I thought the whole
Speaker 1: thing was just a real hard It was real painful.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be celebrating his greatness, and I
Speaker 1: thought we'd just remember the absence of his greatness, and
Speaker 1: it was. It was really hard. I thought it was hard.
Speaker 1: Rudy tom Janovich, though, grabbed some headlines when he said
Speaker 1: Robert or he belongs in the Hall of Fame. Oh
Speaker 1: he does, Oh he does, he absolutely does. I was
Speaker 1: here for a lot of that big shop, Bob. He
Speaker 1: was the best player I've ever seen under pressure in
Speaker 1: the finals. In how many ringss he have? I mean, no,
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna put different people like that
Speaker 1: in the Hall of I think absolutely he belongs to
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for what We're gonna celebrate championships and
Speaker 1: we're gonna celebrate pressure shots and pressure players. And I
Speaker 1: loved it because he said he told me once the
Speaker 1: reason he was so good in April and May instead
Speaker 1: of early the season is that the Kings, the La Kings,
Speaker 1: who shared the Staples Center with him, were done playing,
Speaker 1: so they got the ice off from under the floor,
Speaker 1: so the floor was warm. So it's his feet weren't
Speaker 1: cold in April and May, as long as the Kings
Speaker 1: get loosen. That's true story. I thought, I think he
Speaker 1: should be. And he's a great guy too, So he
Speaker 1: put great guys in the Hall of Fame. We're Reche's
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. But put Dorie in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Okay, But is Derek Fisher hall of Famer? Well,
Speaker 1: he made a couple of he didn't. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think he had the impact that or he had, but
Speaker 1: he had five titles. He's got, I know, more career points,
Speaker 1: He's played in more playoff games than any buddy in
Speaker 1: NBA history. Yeah, But who's made more bigger shots than Ori?
Speaker 1: For different teams? Also, Fisher did it for the same team.
Speaker 1: How many different teams did or win the championships with?
Speaker 1: But if I can put Orien, But if I put Orion,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, am I putting Julian Edelman
Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Well? Maybe so?
Speaker 1: I just think we talk about championships so much and
Speaker 1: then we don't do anything to celebrate him and these guys,
Speaker 1: certain guys are like that. But I know, I'm I
Speaker 1: know him. I'm in a minority. I'm sure most most
Speaker 1: both people think Rob shouldn't be in there, But I
Speaker 1: think I was there and I saw it. I saw
Speaker 1: his big shots, all right. He had the shot like
Speaker 1: the beat Sacramento in Game four of the of the
Speaker 1: Conference finals. You know, he had that great three pointer.
Speaker 1: After that game, Glenn Fry of the Eagles walked past
Speaker 1: me in the press row, pounded his fist on the
Speaker 1: press table. Look at me, he said, the Eagles never
Speaker 1: wrote a song this good, and kept walking that that
Speaker 1: was big shot, Bob, that was Robert or uh. Explain
Speaker 1: the logic of the Dodgers signing Albert Pools. They're really desperate,
Speaker 1: They're really really desperate for hitting against left handed pitching.
Speaker 1: They really need someone. They think they're they have thirteen
Speaker 1: players on the injured list. They gotta They figure if
Speaker 1: they figure he can win that, if you can win
Speaker 1: him one or two games with a late inning home run,
Speaker 1: maybe start a few games when they need him at
Speaker 1: first base, just fill in, they think. And they think
Speaker 1: the clubhouse is vetteran enough to absorb him, and if
Speaker 1: he complains or if he gets disgruntled. This is again
Speaker 1: I've heard this analogy made many times, but it's so true.
Speaker 1: David Freeze worked in there, Chase Utley worked in there.
Speaker 1: They have a history of getting veterans who come in
Speaker 1: there and are tutors and mentors and then go into
Speaker 1: the system, and they're they're banking on him suddenly saying
Speaker 1: I got I can win a ring. I'll be quiet,
Speaker 1: I don't need to play, And I think it's a
Speaker 1: it's a no lose for them. They don't do any good.
Speaker 1: That has cut them. They don't care and customer only anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my concern is he was not happy with not getting
Speaker 1: playing time with the Angels. Now he's going to be
Speaker 1: happy with not getting playing time with the Dodgers. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna he's on a press call today. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask him that direct question. There, or somebody who ask
Speaker 1: him that question. We'll find out. That's that's a concern, Dan,
Speaker 1: that's a concern. But I think again, you've seen players
Speaker 1: like this, veterans who have a chance to win a ring.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers still have the best run differential in the
Speaker 1: National League. It's still the best team in the league.
Speaker 1: I think they learn to subjugate their egos and learn
Speaker 1: to and realize it's about biggest, it's about more than them.
Speaker 1: Where the Angels had no shot, they have no shot,
Speaker 1: Dodgers have a real shot. Maybe he'll be more of
Speaker 1: a team player there. We'll see, But that's a definite.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be one of the first questions he's asked
Speaker 1: to day the press conference. I'll leave you with this,
Speaker 1: if you could start your team with one Kobe, Tim Duncan,
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett. Oh, I'm taking Kobe. I'm taking Cobe because
Speaker 1: because I want to end. I want to start my
Speaker 1: team with a guy who can end the game, who
Speaker 1: will end in the game, who will end the moment,
Speaker 1: who will own the moment. And Tim Duncan was great,
Speaker 1: and Garnier was great, but Kobe was a man on
Speaker 1: that I would I would start with, how about you.
Speaker 1: If it was today's NBA, then I'm going to take Kobe.
Speaker 1: But if it's back in the you know, eighties, nineties,
Speaker 1: then I probably strongly considered Duncan. I think Duncan's underrated.
Speaker 1: You know, he won five titles. He was MVP in
Speaker 1: the finals three times, he won two league MVPs. He
Speaker 1: was first or second, you know, all NBA defense fifteen years,
Speaker 1: All Star fifteen like he he did everything you would
Speaker 1: ask a great player to do, without any fanfare and
Speaker 1: really no signature moment. He just he was kind of
Speaker 1: perfect for San Antonio. I wonder, though, Bill, if he
Speaker 1: played in LA or New York or Boston, would we
Speaker 1: be looking at Tim Duncan differently if he had this resume.
Speaker 1: That's a great question, because I mean a guy like
Speaker 1: Clayton Clayton Cruise y'all is very quiet, like done and
Speaker 1: just does his job. And he's he's revered out here.
Speaker 1: But I want the Kope brings the mamba mentality. I
Speaker 1: know that's such a cliche and everybody laughs, Nason, when
Speaker 1: did I say it? But I want my club to
Speaker 1: have the mamba mentality. That's why I want to Coope. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a wrong answer in there, but well,
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Garnett would be wrong answer. Well, he
Speaker 1: had a run there where he put up you know,
Speaker 1: like twenty five fifteen, you know, five block shots or
Speaker 1: four block shots like he he put up some pretty
Speaker 1: big numbers. Yeah, he did, but he wasn't didn't have
Speaker 1: the consistency and the length of career that these other
Speaker 1: guys did. He didn't have and he wasn't He wasn't
Speaker 1: as good as him. He just wasn't as good. Great
Speaker 1: to talk to you. He's the star of around the
Speaker 1: Horn it's your words, not mine, Your word's not mine,
Speaker 1: and does a decent job as the columnist for the
Speaker 1: La Times. Bill, thanks thanks for joining us. Great to
Speaker 1: catch up with you. See if that Bill Plashky, We'll
Speaker 1: take a break play of the day we had of
Speaker 1: our best and worst of the weekend coming up Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon
Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and
Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR
Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, what's
Speaker 1: up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington and
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast
Speaker 1: called Up on Game. What is Up on Game? You asked,
Speaker 1: along with my fellow pro bowler t J. Hushman's Otta
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Birds. You
Speaker 1: can only name a show with that type of talent
Speaker 1: on it. Up on Game. We're going to be sharing
Speaker 1: our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to
Speaker 1: Up on Game with Me, LeVar Arrington, t J hudshmans Atta,
Speaker 1: and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts from. We have a new
Speaker 1: member the fifty forty ninety club, although maybe you don't
Speaker 1: give him full credit for fifty forty ninety. You shoot
Speaker 1: fifty from the floor, forty from three point range, and
Speaker 1: ninety from the line. Steph Curry, Larry Bird, Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: and this player fifty forty ninety. Anybody want to take
Speaker 1: a guess? This player was eight of ten from the
Speaker 1: floor on Sunday, two of three from three point range,
Speaker 1: and six for six from the free throw line. And
Speaker 1: he guesses some stunned faces there, Yes, McLevin, I'll go
Speaker 1: with a little Malcolm Brogden. Malcolm Brogden, No, but he's
Speaker 1: been close before. I think Seaton O'Connor, do you have one. Well,
Speaker 1: those numbers seem a little flat to me, flat earth,
Speaker 1: Oh boom. Kyrie Irving fifty forty ninety. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many games he played in this year compared to Bird,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant. But I thought Steve Nash
Speaker 1: was a fifty forty ninety. Yeah, Paul, I was gonna
Speaker 1: guess Devin Booker. That was the name that popped in
Speaker 1: my head. And I don't know if he's even close
Speaker 1: to that. Kyrie shot fifty from the floor, forty from
Speaker 1: three point range, and ninety from the line. So right
Speaker 1: there on those numbers, fifty, forty and ninety, can we
Speaker 1: check because I, for some reason I thought Malcolm Brogden
Speaker 1: did do it. Yeah, he was the last guy to
Speaker 1: do it. He did it in nineteen Oh, I thought him.
Speaker 1: I totally screwed that out. I knew he was fifty
Speaker 1: forty nine. I couldn't remember. Okay, and then did Steve
Speaker 1: Nash go fifty forty ninety multiple times? Okay, Todd, that's
Speaker 1: stuff from an article I was looking at. That's what
Speaker 1: we're calling out to journal I was just gonna give
Speaker 1: Todd credit for stat of the day. And this he
Speaker 1: didn't send it to everybody, Just send it to me.
Speaker 1: He joins Larry Bird, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant, is
Speaker 1: the only players to average at least twenty five points
Speaker 1: per game during the fifty forty nineties. So I guess
Speaker 1: that's the separation there. But you've got guys who have
Speaker 1: been fifty forty ninety and uh, he's somehow averaged twenty
Speaker 1: five game. Yes, Paula, it's from a website called horrendous
Speaker 1: stats dot com. No, because he's he's averaging twenty five,
Speaker 1: whereas Nash didn't and Brogden didn't. But he is a
Speaker 1: member of the fifty forty ninety. So it's a little
Speaker 1: confusing there, Yes, he so it looks like he did
Speaker 1: it in fifty four games. Yeah, which I think the
Speaker 1: next closest one would be Malcolm Brogden at sixty four games.
Speaker 1: But he has the least of anybody else. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: but he averaged uh wait, what's his sad here? Because
Speaker 1: saying it over how many points a game? Twenty five? Okay,
Speaker 1: twenty five because yeah, Dirk was like twenty four point
Speaker 1: four or something. Yeah, yeah, but Bird, Steph and Durant
Speaker 1: average at least twenty five and fifty forty ninety yes, point,
Speaker 1: did you go round up? Like if durk Navisky averaged
Speaker 1: twenty four point eight, is that twenty five points a game? No,
Speaker 1: you don't round up? No? Would you say he averaged
Speaker 1: twenty four that year or twenty four point eight? Like
Speaker 1: would you go to point? I probably do twenty four
Speaker 1: point eight? Men round up in everything else, and like
Speaker 1: this nice, you're not a round up guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: a round up guy. I don't even use it on weeds.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean that's how much I am. Not
Speaker 1: a round up guy like Kyrie already averaging twenty six
Speaker 1: point nine points per game this year. We can't say
Speaker 1: he's average of twenty seven a game. Oh, it's twenty
Speaker 1: six point nine? Really, yes, because you know later on
Speaker 1: in you know, ten years, you're gonna be like, dude,
Speaker 1: I averaged twenty seven a game that year. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: actually is twenty six point right? Actually? I don't think
Speaker 1: I sound like that. Maybe I did, Allen. You know
Speaker 1: you're doing that wrong. Do you know Kevin Garnett didn't
Speaker 1: acknowledge Ray Allen that I was a little curious about,
Speaker 1: right right on brand? Is he gonna mention Ray? No,
Speaker 1: he's done. Man. Are they gonna take that to their graves?
Speaker 1: They are not gonna welcome back Ray Allen. Let's give
Speaker 1: our best and worst of the weekend. Todd, I'll start
Speaker 1: with you best of the weekend, after having been eligible
Speaker 1: for eight years. Great to see one of our favorite guests,
Speaker 1: Chris Weber, get the NOD for the Basketball Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame and to an interview with his former Fab five
Speaker 1: A teammate Jalen Rose. Over the weekend worst. Although Popovitch
Speaker 1: coach Popish wasn't there and a number of players were
Speaker 1: resting or hurt, the Spurs give up one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty points in regulation at home Saturday night to the Suns.
Speaker 1: They give up forty one in the third. We're down
Speaker 1: at one point by as many as forty two. This
Speaker 1: is a team that's involved in the plane and I
Speaker 1: was corpecting a little more from San Antonio. Well, they
Speaker 1: took the night off too. I mean, they figure what
Speaker 1: pop is, so we will too. Mclov and best and worst,
Speaker 1: So my best obviously, his Vanessa Bryants speech was pretty incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My worst is how late the games were on Sunday
Speaker 1: night for the NBA, and how I could not make
Speaker 1: head nor tail of who was trying to win or lose.
Speaker 1: I felt like the last day of the season was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a big like seating battle and it
Speaker 1: was very confusing. Yeah, I don't think Denver and the
Speaker 1: Clippers wanted to win. The Celtics didn't care about winning,
Speaker 1: But you did have some teams who did try to
Speaker 1: win these and the Celtics gave the Knicks a little
Speaker 1: bit of a ran out of that game. I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Seaton O'Connor, best, I worst. I'm gonna go two best
Speaker 1: one best is uh the Keegan Michael Key on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. This weekend. There's a couple of funny skits
Speaker 1: there with the involving sports, especially with Jordan documentary one.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty funny. Yep, Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1: It went a little long, and then it went so
Speaker 1: long that it became funny again, like absurdly long. You're like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is great. Um. And then my other best of
Speaker 1: the weekend, Um, well, I don't know. I guess it's
Speaker 1: a best like Hall of Fame career. But Marv Albert
Speaker 1: announcing his retirement, Yeah, that's a dude who growing up
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. He was like the sound of basketball
Speaker 1: for me, you know, just like Phil Rizzuto was the
Speaker 1: sound of East Ball. He was the same thing. Yep.
Speaker 1: And Marv is eighty years of age and he's one
Speaker 1: of those guys that you wonder what he's gonna do
Speaker 1: without a game, and whenever he's on he feels younger
Speaker 1: than that. But just legendary boys. He made hockey sound
Speaker 1: great on radio, that's how great he was. Yes, I
Speaker 1: did ask him over the weekend if he was sure
Speaker 1: he want to retire. What do you think? He said, yes,
Speaker 1: yus so to make sure you're playing along. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Todd and our buddy Mike Breen getting into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame as a contributor. One of those people who
Speaker 1: are great people who also are great at what they do.
Speaker 1: That's Mike Breen. PAULI beston worst FCS football title game,
Speaker 1: Dan May Football, We love it. Eric schmid Schmidty the
Speaker 1: quarterback of sam Houston State. Touchdown was sixteen seconds left
Speaker 1: for sam Houston State to beat South Dakota State. And
Speaker 1: the other best of the weekend. Liverpool need a late
Speaker 1: goal against West Brown. They really need one. They bring
Speaker 1: up their goalkeeper Allison and he has one in for
Speaker 1: Liverpool to keep them in the Champions League. Mix. He
Speaker 1: just has one name. He kind of goes by Allison
Speaker 1: A L I S. S O N. Alison Becker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you look like about six to five. They put
Speaker 1: him in the box and they got a header. Kind
Speaker 1: of a Gerard Butler thing going out with more range.
Speaker 1: I love the announces too, because it's such a way
Speaker 1: with words to love all the dramatic stunning. Yeah, clawing
Speaker 1: their way back from deats from one more game Liverpool
Speaker 1: shadow home. Some defending continue coming up. Reggie Miller recap
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame weekend more phone calls, best and
Speaker 1: worst to the weekend. We're back after this final hour
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show one more writems, second hour a M drive.
Speaker 1: Are you finding it harder to keep up with the
Speaker 1: younger guys at the gym or at work? Not me?
Speaker 1: I take M Drive. M drive is the everyday supplement
Speaker 1: for guys who want to compete with guys twenty years younger,
Speaker 1: and you want to win. I don't want to compete.
Speaker 1: I want to win. M drive gives you energy and
Speaker 1: strength and stamina. Then you can fight back, maintain your
Speaker 1: edge no matter what your age is. Pack with clinically
Speaker 1: tested ingredients. M drive helps you burn more fats, stay
Speaker 1: lean and boost your drive. Try it sixty day money
Speaker 1: back guarantee. There's free shipping M drive dan dot com.
Speaker 1: Try it for yourself, or you can find M drive
Speaker 1: at Rite Aid, Walgreens and Vitamin Shop. I've been using
Speaker 1: M drive for a year now and I can feel
Speaker 1: a difference every single day. How do you feel now?
Speaker 1: You ready to try M drive? Go to M drive
Speaker 1: dan dot com today. Don't let age beat you. rEFInd
Speaker 1: your prime with M drive mdrive dan dot com, or
Speaker 1: you can go to the stores Write Aid Walgreens, Vitamin
Speaker 1: Shop and ask for m drive dot com.