1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's nine o Gene Engine with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: He played Derek Driscoll, the con artist on nine O 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: two and Oh he's here, Jen, I'm excited corn Nemic. Hello. 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Hi. Can we just go. 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Back in time. Let's rewind, because by the time you 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: joined nine o two and now you had already had 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: you already had a lot of success as an actor. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: You'd already done seventy three episodes of Parker Lewis Can't Lose. 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: How did this happen? How did you get to the 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: role of Derek Driscoll, the criminal on nine two and 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: l Well. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: I was desperate for money, No, Tiffany Amberthiessen's money. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: No. 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: I honestly, it was it just popped up through my 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: agency at the time and they just called and asked 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: if I was available to, you know, to do the character. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know that it was that it had more 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 3: than one episode at that at the time, but uh uh, 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, fortunately for me, I was available and it 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: worked out. I was uh uh, you know, I thank god. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: I've always stayed very busy as as an actor, even 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: even at the present time. It's been it's been one 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: of the greatest blessings in my life for sure, besides 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: meeting my wonderful wife and uh, good job, thank you. 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: But so it was it was really exciting because uh, 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: you know nine O two one oh and and part 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: of Lewis they both launched at the same time, and 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: I was around a lot of you all. In fact, 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: you and I went to Israel together yea and which 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: was which was very interesting. It was the first time 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: I ever heard uh sirens in Tel Aviv for like 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: incoming scud missile attacks and I was like, wait a second, 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: am I even safe here? 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: But we had a fun time. 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: Who cares? Right right? 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: We had a good memory. 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: What about me? 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: We didn't want to go, You didn't. 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Get to go. It's really hard for me not to 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: call you quirky because. 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it is hard to not call you you sorry. 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: Because Brian and Green were best friends. 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: So we were very close and we still are. We 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: still are. We are good buddies. 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: So I got to see lot we can. I ask 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: the question, is this going to upset your wife? I 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: don't think so. It's like thirty years ago. Do you 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: remember ever kissing me once? 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: I do? I have that recollection. It's very vivid as 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: a matter of fact. Yes, yes, of course, howvid is 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: it and vivid enough to recall. Yes, yes, those those 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: were fun days. Back then it was you know, everybody 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: that was on television at that time. You know, it 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: was a much smaller world. 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you who hung out with and that 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: was an absolute blast. 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: I think I think both you can agree that that 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: with the industry being so which might knit at that time, 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: you know there was, it was kind of a luxury 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: being at nowadays it's you. You can be on a 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: on a hit series, you know, on one of the 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: platforms like Paramount Plus or TV whatever. You can be 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: on like your your fourth season, fifth season, and nobody 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: will know who the hell you are out in the 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: real world except for people who watched that platform of course. 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 3: Alf Soda Pop Club. 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Was like. 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: It was like the place to be, uh when you 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: were a young actor back day it was. But but yeah, 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: that was where everybody hung out. It was wild. I 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: have very vivid memories of being at that. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Place and at the different locations I had such as you, 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: but I like your friends, so I could never firt 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: with you. And then one night, no, it was me 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: and my friend Hammy and you and your friend and 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: we had just gone out to some like nightclub. 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: I think it was the Roxbury. 78 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: Was the Roxbury? Yeah, so far drive back and we 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: were staying at my parents' beach house which burned down 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: the fires in January, but we were staying there and 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: you guys like followed us back and the securities like 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: your friends are here, and we took a walk on 83 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: the beach and that's where it happened. And I'll never 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: forget it. 85 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, mission accomplished. 86 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, Brian doesn't find out, 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: which is weird because Brian and I weren't dating, but 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: I still felt like it was me and Brian, like 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: you know the type of girls guys are like, it's 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: cool brown. 91 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 92 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, I have to ask you a question. You were 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: nominated for an Emmy. Didn't you want it? Did you win? 94 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: Or were your nominated? Seventeen years old? 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: Well, I was actually while I was fourteen when I 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: did I know my first name is Steven. And then 97 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: obviously it took however long it took for it to 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: come out, it didn't come out until I was fifteen 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: late and then then sixteen when they did the actual 100 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: Emmy nominations for it. So when when uh, you know, 101 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: I was up against like Danny Glover and uh uh 102 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: Arma Assanti and whoever else it was. It was it 103 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: was a slew of of of of uh you know, 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: grown grown ass men. So it was. It was pretty incredible. 105 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: I think, if I recall correctly, I was the youngest 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: person to be nominated for an Emmy at that time 107 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 3: in that category, which was pretty cool. It was a drag. 108 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: I would have loved to have won it because the 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: real Stephen Stainer had had been hit by a drunk 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: driver on his motorcycle the night before the Emmys and 111 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: was killed. And and yeah, it was very tragic, and 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: I really really I didn't want to win for me. 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to win so I could thank him and 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: and and honor him, uh you know, uh and and 115 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: and let the world know what a great guy he 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: turned out to be. And so it was, you know, 117 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: it was dually tragic that evening. It was a tough 118 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: evening actually, because he was on set quite a bit. 119 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: If that was the character you were playing, Yeah, yeah. 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what what a what a terrible he 121 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: lost his youth, you know, to a total pervert. And 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: uh and and the fact that he turned out so well, 123 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 3: you know, he was he was married, he had kids, 124 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: He wanted to become a police officer. He was doing 125 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: the police training thing and all of that, and and 126 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: it was his his goal in life to you know, 127 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: try to try to protect those he couldn't protect themselves. 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: And uh. And that was, you know, a beautiful, you know, 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: a beautiful outlook he had on life. So yeah, it 130 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: was that was wild to be nominated that age. The 131 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: Emmys were a blast as well. Uh, back then it 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: was it was fun to go to them, even if 133 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't nominated. I went to them a couple of 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: times after that. 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: What a I mean, what a weird night. Yeah, that 136 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: mix of like exhilaration and excitement and happiness and yeah 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: and then. 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: That Yeah, I know, tell me about it. 139 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: Crazy timing, Yeah it was. 140 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: There was another mini series Simon Windsor did. It was 141 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: a Western one, Lonesome Dove Cleaned House that year, and 142 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: oddly enough a number of years later I worked on 143 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: a movie that Simon Winster directed called Operation Dumbo Drop 144 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: with Danny Glover, who he had worked with on Lonesome Dove. 145 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: And Radioda and Dennis Leary. That was that was a 146 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: blast that came full circle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: funny how that works in the industry, how the industry 148 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: does signs. It always goes like, you know, in weird 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: circles like that, you know, you ended up working with 150 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: somebody that you met somewhere or you knew in this 151 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: project or whatever. It's it's very cool. It's it's again, 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, it's just I can't I'm I'm never more 153 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: thankful in life than when I when I think about 154 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: the fact that I'm still a working actor in Hollywood 155 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: after starting in nineteen eighty six. 156 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: It is quite a vast career. You've had so many 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: different roles, drama, comedy, sci fi. Your character Jonas Quinn 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: in Stargate SG one Yes, was that one of one 159 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: of your most memorable? 160 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: For sure? I think, and you know, and you know, 161 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: in more modern times oddly enough, you know, that was 162 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: like two thousand and and four whatever when we shot that. 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: When I shot that, that the couple of seasons that 164 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: I was on, which is mind blowing right now to 165 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: think about. But what was what's really cool about that 166 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: is I was I was completely unaware that that these 167 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: comic con things go on and these big you know, 168 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: all the world, and there's there's these events that you 169 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: can you know, go to that they'll they'll pay you 170 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: handsomely to to to do an appearance at and all 171 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: of that. And I was so ignorant of any of that. 172 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: And suddenly I did that show and next thing I know, 173 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: I'm being like flown to Australia, Germany, Belgium, the UK, 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 3: you know, all over the world to you know, to 175 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: do these appearances for that character. 176 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Will you hook me up with your person? 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: And uh and and and still even to this day, 178 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: I mean I I just got back from France and 179 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: the UK a couple of months ago doing appearances for 180 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: for Stargate as well as for Parker because Parker Lewis 181 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: was a huge phenomenon in France, and uh it, you know, 182 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: I still get brought over there to do appearances for 183 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: for Parker Lewis and we In fact, a few years back, 184 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 3: maybe four or five years ago, they flew over me 185 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: and half the cast for a big reunion uh you 186 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: know thing at one of their events in Paris. So 187 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: it was like me and and Troy Slayton who played Jerry, 188 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: and Billy Jane who played who played Mikey and Abraham 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: Ben Ruby who play Kobiac, and Maya Bruton who played Shelley, 190 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: my sister. They brought us all over there. 191 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: Do you guys all still keep in touch or was 192 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: that for some of you see each other in a while? 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well I keep in touch with Troy uh and 194 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: aber Ham and Maya for the most part. And Tim 195 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: Stack a bit who played my dad on it. He's 196 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: hilarious when he did Son of the Beach A Son 197 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: of a Son of Son of Son of a Beach. 198 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: I think that was it. But that was such a 199 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: funny series. It was so good, great actor. 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Parker Lewis can't Ley is. I loved that show. I 201 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: mean obviously new you in real life, but like as 202 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: a teen and like watching that show, it's just such 203 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: a good show. 204 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. You know, they did Long Dimon and 205 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: Clyde Phillips. They went and pitched a reboot at a 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: series with Sony TV, but unfortunately they didn't pick it up. 207 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: It was, you know, God blessed them. But I went 208 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: and met with them with Lawn about about doing a 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: reboot because I had a concept for it that I 210 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: thought would be really good, but I didn't get to 211 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: go in and pitch that that concept at all. They 212 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: had a different idea, which was Parker Lewis's kids and 213 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: Mikey's kids and all their kids were now, you know, 214 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: in high school together, and so you know, and and 215 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: it was sort of a similar show as the Earth one, 216 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: except with twice the amount of characters. 217 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: What was your what was your idea? Because that sounds 218 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: like the like typical, let's do a reboot. 219 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine was. Mine was called Parker Lewis Can't Win. 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: And it was Parker as an adult, and his heyday 221 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: was in his high school years. And and miss Musso, 222 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: who was the principal, has now become the mayor of 223 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: Santo Domingo, and Lemmer, who was her little arch villain assistant, 224 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: has become the sheriff. And my my sister, Maya Shelley, 225 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: who hated me, was the local DA. And they thwarted 226 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: every plan I had to try and be successful in life, 227 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: you know. And so my my, my my years spent 228 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: being the man in high school were now over. Or 229 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: now everybody else, yeah, everybody else is successful around me, 230 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what, you know, so trying to like 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: relive though still wearing the same shirts with the same hair, 232 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: but you know, now my forties or whatever, and they're like, 233 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, and so that was kind of that was 234 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: like flipping the that is so good. Yes, yes, yeah, 235 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: I think it would have been funny. I had I 236 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: had a whole you know plan for you know, for 237 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: the show. 238 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: How many seasons was Parker Lewis Can't Lose On? 239 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: Well, we did seventy eight episodes, but only three seasons, 240 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: so we did some long seasons, but we were only 241 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: ten episodes away from the from the minimum for syndication, 242 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: which is like eighty eight episodes. 243 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: Why didn't they do it? They could have done it? 244 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the big problem was is that I 245 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: don't know if you recall that they they sold Fox 246 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: to you know, Ruper Murdoch Company whatever. They sold Fox 247 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: TV and kept Fox News. They sold Fox TV to 248 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: two years into our show, and the new executives when 249 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: they came on, they looked at because our show was 250 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: very costly. We were as expensive as nine o two 251 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: one oh and we were a half hour comedy, you know, 252 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: with a smaller cast. But it was very expensive to 253 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: make that show, and they and and our ratings obviously 254 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: weren't quite as good as y'all's, you know, And so 255 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: they were they were trying to make sense out of 256 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: the budget, and they thought the new execution that came on, Yeah, 257 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: the new executives who were hired on were like, well, 258 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: what we need to do is make Parker Lewis more 259 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: like nine oh two and oh but a comedy version 260 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: of it. So our third season they changed the entire 261 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: dynamics of the show. The shooting style, the clothing style, 262 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: all of that was was was altered. No, yeah, really heavily. 263 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: So our third season just didn't have the pizazz and 264 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: the and the outrageousness that our first two seasons had. 265 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: And that was sort of the nail, you know, the 266 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: nail in our coffin. Unfortunately, if they had just left 267 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: it alone, we I'm sure that we would have gone 268 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: at least four or five seasons with it. But but 269 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: they didn't. They just they just let a good thing. 270 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: Lie, changing of the card, that's what happened. 271 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: Yes, they always think they know better than the previous people, 272 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: which yeah, necessarily true. Sometimes it is, yes. 273 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Yes, sometimes it helps, but yeah. 274 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: Well, if you had to. 275 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: Go back and say, what was your favorite character you 276 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: played thus far in your career, what would you which 277 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: one would you pick? 278 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: I have a couple of them. One of them is 279 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: definitely my favorite because it was my first time getting 280 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: to really, really do do a true character role. And 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: that was in the original Stephen King mini series, The Stand, 282 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: when I got to play this character Harold Louder, who 283 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: was a pivotal character in the overall mini series and 284 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: uh and also had the biggest arc. He went from 285 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: being this this really you know, introverted nerdy guy to 286 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: becoming this sort of like extrovert villain, you know. And 287 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: and it was that it was the first time in 288 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: my career as an actor to really get to break 289 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: the mold of what I was generally cast as, and 290 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: that opened me up to a lot of other roles 291 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: later on after that, getting to play villain characters that 292 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: I never would have gotten to play. I don't think 293 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: if I hadn't done The Stand. 294 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: Guy's a question. I'm a huge Stephen King fan. I 295 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: heard he's really hands on. Was he with the production well. 296 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: In his later ones? Yeah, yes, I had to audition 297 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: for him for he and Mick Garris for that role. 298 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: And I read the character description is like this really overweight, 299 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, nerdy guy with greasy hair and dandriff and 300 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: all of that. And and I'm sitting there going I'm 301 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: not going to get this part, you know. But I 302 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: understood that the character very well. And it turns out that, 303 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: fortunately for me, Mick Garris had really liked me for 304 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: another movie called Sleepwalkers that he had directed. I love 305 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: that movie out, yeah, and I didn't get the role 306 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: in it, but he really liked my audition that I did, 307 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: and he was telling Stephen King that I was the 308 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: right guy to play this character of Harold Louder that 309 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: doesn't hurt, yeah, yeah, And Stephen King was looking at 310 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: my head shot though, going no, he's not. He's not 311 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: the right guy. Look at this guy. But they had 312 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: tried casting somebody who physically fit the description of the character, 313 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: and Mick Garris told me that they they auditioned in 314 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: La New York, Chicago, San Francisco, even Miami, trying to 315 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: find that, you know, the person that fit the exact 316 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: description of the character that Stephen was in love with him. 317 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: They just didn't find anybody, thank god. So when I 318 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: went in there and auditioned for it, I mean before 319 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: I walked out of the room, I could they were 320 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: back there having their little quiet discussion. And it was 321 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: one of those rare moments when by the time it 322 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: was back when we still had answering machines. But by 323 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: the time I left that audition and got home, there 324 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: was a message for my agent saying that I had 325 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: booked the job. Yeah. I was like, that's crazy. Because 326 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: I walked out there, I felt good about it, but 327 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: I thought they were whispering, like Stephen King was going, 328 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: I told you this guy doesn't Eric, I'm not gonna 329 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I was like, oh, well, 330 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: there goes that one. 331 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: But I love stories like that. 332 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. 333 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: They didn't want to see you because visually that's not 334 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: what he saw. But you came in and he was like, 335 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: he is the character. 336 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Wait, did you like play yourself down? Did you do 337 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: anything to your physic to alter your appearance when you 338 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: went in there. 339 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I just I just put 340 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: like Gid. 341 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 1: In shower for a few weeks or what. 342 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh god, that would have been something there. I 343 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: have some funny audition stories where I went too far, 344 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: I can. 345 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: Tell you that really tell us one. 346 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, well I had two of them. I had 347 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: one where I was. There was in Teluca Lake. There 348 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: were where I had I had a house there. And 349 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: up the street was this this store that sold all 350 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: of the makeup and special effects stuff for the movie industry. 351 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: I forget what it was called, but it was this 352 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: massive store. No, I don't think that was it. It was. 353 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: It was something like, you know, like Cinema Secrets or something. Yes, 354 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: And uh so I used to go in there and 355 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: you know, and just kind of just browse and check 356 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: things out. And they had they had this whole collection 357 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: of mustaches, you know, these really really awesome mustaches, and 358 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: I couldn't grow. Look, I still can't grow a mustach. 359 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what this thing is doing on my 360 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: face right now. 361 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: It's cute. 362 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: So I'm actually growing it out for a part I'm 363 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: supposed to play next year. 364 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: But you've got you got a long lead. 365 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: Next year's not next year. It's like, whoa, it's gonna 366 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: take you that long. 367 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: But we're there. This is already like a month and 368 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: a half. Okay, But yeah, so I so they had 369 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: all these mustaches, and I was like, wow, these mustaches. 370 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: Look at the characters I could play, you know. And 371 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: so I bought like, I don't know, like four or 372 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: five of these different mustaches, like the one that goes 373 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: out like that, a big bushy one, some other, all 374 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: these different mustache And I had this audition for this 375 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: World War two mini series or film or something, and 376 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: I was like a captain of like a B fifty 377 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: bomber pot you know, bomber uh. And I thought, Wow, 378 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: this is a perfect audition for one of these mustaches. So, 379 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: you know, I applied this ridiculous mustache and had. 380 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: The handle bars we now. 381 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: Not handlebars, but kind of just like went out to 382 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: a little point, you know what I mean, or like 383 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: the evil villain mustache, you know, but it felt like 384 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: nineteen forties to me. This mustache did dusterally do? 385 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Right? Is something? Yeah? 386 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: So I put this thing on and I went in 387 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: and I did my audition and uh, my my agent 388 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: to my agent calls and goes, accorn, did you did 389 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: you put a mustache on for this audition? And I 390 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I did. Did they like it? And 391 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: They're like, no, they didn't like it. No, absolutely not. 392 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: They couldn't they. In fact, they couldn't even watch your audition. 393 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: They just kept staring at this ridiculous thing on your face. 394 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Oh man. 395 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: And and I want to get back in and do it, 396 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: but take it off. I'm like, no, no, no, they've 397 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: moved on from you. 398 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: That's the best. 399 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: That's the best. That's good in auditions. Winter props too much. 400 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the second one is even worse. I was 401 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 3: auditioning for some Vietnam miniseries or something, and uh, my 402 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: character was like the captain of his platoon or whatever, 403 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: and and he and in his in his hoot, in 404 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: his hangout spot, he had a pet monkey that that 405 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: that that his his guys had adopted. And this monkey 406 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: was wore a little army outfit. Yeah. I have this 407 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: whole scene with this monkey where I'm like talking to 408 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 3: the monkey, I'm holding the monkey, I'm doing this, you know. 409 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: And so I'm like, well, how do I do this 410 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: scene without like a real monkey? Like, it doesn't make 411 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 3: any sense. So I went to Toys r US and 412 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: sell real monkeys. 413 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: There you got like a round up monkey. 414 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: I went to the doll section and I was like, 415 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: just just in case, and I and I and I'm 416 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: walking through and there's this little monkey that's in in 417 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: like a Safari outfit that looked kind of like an 418 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: army outfit. So I took the hat off of it, 419 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 3: you know, and I was like, I thought it was 420 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: like destiny. I was like, I'm destined to get this 421 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: part because I found this monkey. It toys r Us 422 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: and it's the exactly it's like wearing practically the outfit 423 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: they describe and in the show. So I go into 424 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: the audition. I've got it into my backpack, so I 425 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: don't like, you know, like show everybody right off the 426 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: bat when I walk in and I do the first scene, 427 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: which is like a shorter scene, and then I get 428 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 3: to the big scene with the monkey, and I unzit 429 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: my backpack and I pulled the little stuffed monkey out 430 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: and I could literally, I mean it was like somebody 431 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: sucked all the air out of the room, you know 432 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: what I mean. It was one of those moments where 433 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this was probably a bad choice, 434 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: but did you just go with it? So I went 435 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: with it. I did the whole scene. I was talking 436 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: to the monkey, I was doing the little you know, 437 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: tickling a little bit, all the all the stuff with 438 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: the monkey, and and it was it was my same 439 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: agent for the other thing too. I was probably later on, 440 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: but but you know, so I do the audition and 441 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: I leave and everything, and I'm like, you know, I 442 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: felt good about it. I was like, you know, I mean, 443 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: I know it was weird, but what am I going 444 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: to do? They're the ones who wrote the scene. 445 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 446 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: So I get home and sure enough, my agent Calle 447 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: is like, did you you take a stuffed monkey into 448 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: the audition with you? I'm like, yeah, but I wasn't 449 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: wearing a mustache, this sign this, you know. I figure, 450 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: oh my god, you are so I didn't get the part. 451 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Sorry about that. The things we do, the things you 452 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: remember you being this funny when. 453 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: We were kids, I was hilarious. 454 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: Dam yeah, he's always been funny. 455 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: Yes, it was something else. 456 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: It was just such a fun just get for us 457 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: to have you on our show. I remember that. I 458 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: just remember the vibe. Everybody was so happy you were there. 459 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: It was like more fun than we were already having 460 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: when you were around. 461 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: Well, I know that, you know, I'm my my acting 462 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, I've always studied acting in acting classes since 463 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: I was eleven years old. And then even even during 464 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: Parker Lewis, I was I was studying with. Of course 465 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: his name is gonna slip my mind right now. He 466 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: was like this this big method acting teacher in Santa Monica, 467 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: Larry Moss. 468 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: Larry. 469 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: I was studying with Larry Moss, and like he's all 470 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: method and all that. And that's when I started doing 471 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: all this weird stuff with the mustache and the monkeys 472 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 3: and all this stuff, because I was all, you know, 473 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: heady into the whole method thing, like I got to go, 474 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: I gotta go extra far for the you know, for 475 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 3: the job and for the character and all that. And uh. 476 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: But then I ended up studying with a guy named 477 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: Manutupo after you know, like in the in the early nineties, 478 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: around ninety four Une nine, for after Parker Lewis canceled, 479 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: and and uh he had he was the exact opposite 480 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: of the method. He was like had this whole really 481 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: really unique way of approaching creating a character, which which 482 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: I absolutely loved. And but uh, I forget where I 483 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: was going with this. 484 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: What do you use now? I'm curious when you like, 485 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: when you go in for a new role, like what 486 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: are you going with method? Are you going with. 487 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: No, it's not method. Well, his you know, Monotupo's technique 488 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: was called the New Era acting technique, and it was 489 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: kind of like a creationist way of approaching acting, where 490 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: you know, where the character has to be one believed 491 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: and so you're not drawing from your own life. You're 492 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: creating a really detailed backstory of the character's life. So 493 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: all the stuff that's not written in the script that 494 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: that that you create a character. Oh, that's what I 495 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: was getting. It was the props and all of that. 496 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: But uh so, but you know, always working with props 497 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 3: was a big thing to me. So, I mean, I 498 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: know when I did note in too, and oh, I 499 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 3: was like, I need a coffee cup. I need some 500 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: coffee in it. I need to you know what I mean, 501 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: I need a pan, you know. So I'm like trying to, 502 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, just like crush some type of reality into 503 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: into the scene work and stuff. And yeah. Yeah, Well, 504 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: in fact, on on on Stargate, I ended up being 505 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: banned from props. Uh after like after like eight episodes 506 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: or so. My character was from another planet and I thought, Okay, well, 507 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: now he's here on Earth, what's he going to be 508 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: interested in Well, it's gonna be like the food thing 509 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: is going to be a major, you know factor for him. 510 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: So all these different scenes I would introduce, you know, 511 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: like like we did one scene where me and one 512 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: of the characters are in a space ship and outer 513 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: space and it's like a five and a half page 514 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: scene of dialogue and we're just sitting there staring out 515 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: at space talking and I'm like, this is just this 516 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: scene is going to kill me, you know. And I 517 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: was by the craft service table pacing around, going Okay, 518 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 3: what can I do with this scene? What can I 519 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: bring to it that, you know, so it's not too 520 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: aliens sitting in space having a conversation. And I look 521 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: over and there's a big fruit display there and I'm 522 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: like a banana, a freaking banana and out of space. 523 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there talking. I pull out a banana. 524 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: I eat the banana. At the end, I realized, oh, 525 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: I didn't offer the other actor a banana, so I 526 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: pull out another banana. I'm like, without changing any dialogue, 527 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: just all silent, you know, behaviors and uh. And the 528 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: director was U was David DeLuise, dom Deluize's son, and 529 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: uh and it was great that he was the director 530 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: because he he I was trying to I was pitching 531 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: him this thing. You know, I got this idea, got 532 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: a banana, banana and out of space and everything like that. 533 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: And He's like, h a banana and out of space. 534 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: I like it, And so it's stuck in there. And 535 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: it actually a big thing, yeah, a big thing for 536 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: the fans. You know, Jonas's banana. There was actually a 537 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: whole group of fans back in like two thousand uh 538 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: five and six at the at the conventions over in 539 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: the UK. I used to do that would wear these 540 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: these brown robes with a big hoodie thing on it. 541 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 3: It said OJB on the back and it was the 542 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: Order of Jonas's Banana. And it was this whole whole 543 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: group of really strange nerdy type that would walk around 544 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: in these things and they look like Jawas basically. But 545 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, Order of Jonas's Bananas 546 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: sounds a little phallic. I don't know if you really 547 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: want to roll with this one, but okay. And people 548 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: will bring me bananas to sign, like autographed bananas. 549 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't, that's wild all because you saw 550 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: it in a fruit bowl. Oh my gosh. See. 551 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: Yes, So I introduced you know, quite a number of 552 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: different things in different scenes. And around episode six or so, 553 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: six or seven, I we had this big scene in 554 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: the boardroom. It's like, you know, shit has hit the fan. 555 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: They're trying to figure out how they're going to save 556 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: the world, all this stuff. There's like twelve people in 557 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: the scene, and I have like one line of dialogue 558 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: like near the end of the scene where I come 559 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: up with, you know, like the solution to you know, 560 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: whatever the problem is. But I have no other dialogue 561 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 3: in the whole scene. And again, the damn fruit baskets. Right. 562 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: So I'm standing there at this table and they have 563 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: in the scene they have this big fruit basket, you know, 564 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: fruit display and all this uf that that people, you know, 565 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: need to snack on. And and so I decide, well, 566 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: in the beginning of the scene, I'll start peeling this orange, 567 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: you know, and I'll be peeling the orange throughout the scene, 568 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 3: and when they finally get to my line of dialogue, 569 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: I'll be like eating, you know, my bite of orange, 570 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: you know, like crush realities here. And it went over fine. 571 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: Nobody said anything, but when they got into the editing room. 572 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: Every time they would cut to one of the wide 573 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: shots or whatever, all you see is me over there 574 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: peeling this bright orange. They're just like, and you're completely 575 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: out of the scene. Now You're like, what is he 576 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: doing back there? 577 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: You're you're basically upstaging everyone with your orange. 578 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: One hundred percent upstaging everybody with my orange. And that 579 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: was the point when the writer producers were like, Corn, 580 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: we love what you're doing, but if it's not in 581 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: the script, you're not allowed to do it anymore. 582 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: My god, you need to be you need to be 583 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: kept in the you know, you need to. 584 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: Have some security. I can't win. 585 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: Totally totally. 586 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: One last question, do you still do your grooffin the art? 587 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: I do absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I've 588 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: never I mean, I've never really stopped ever. I was 589 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: very prolific up until the whole COVID thing when a 590 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: lot of my traveling went went under and all of that. 591 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: But I would take advantage of all of these events 592 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: that I would do all over the all over the world, 593 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: and I would extend my stay a little bit. I 594 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: really got into street art heavily as well, Like stencil art, 595 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: and what's called like poster art. The nickname for it 596 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: is wheat paste art. But it's when you when you 597 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: do like a graphic or stencyl type poster and all 598 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: painted and then you go and glue it up someplace 599 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: and all of that and uh and then the sticker stuff. 600 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: So I would anywhere I would travel, I would just 601 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: take my kit with me. I'd stay a few extra 602 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: days and I'd go around and put up my street 603 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: art and do all that, or or I'd hook up 604 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: with another graffiti artist and uh, and I'd go and paint, 605 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, a legal wall or sometimes in illegal one, 606 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: but mostly legal walls, and uh, you know. And even 607 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: now I do more mural type stuff. I've done some 608 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: murals in La too that are still there on Melrose 609 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: in the back alleys at pos Poser's Punk rock Store. 610 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: On the back side of that, there's a big painting 611 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: I did of sid Vicious that's still there, and a 612 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: couple other paintings back there. 613 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: What year did you do that? 614 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: Oh, that was probably like twenty sixteen or so. 615 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, everybody go, look, yeah, we're gonna be hunting 616 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: that down. 617 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, take your pictures in front of it guys. 618 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: With robes and bananas, They're going to be looking for me. 619 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: Yes, But I just did one recently that won Best 620 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: New Mural in Tampa Bay at a coffee shop that's 621 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: here in my area called bell Air Coffee. I did 622 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: a big, huge coffee plantation mural on the side of 623 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: the of their building, and then and then another one 624 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: of like an old coffee farmer drinking an espresso and 625 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: it turned out really awesome. It's cool. The pictures are 626 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: on my Instagram. I am corn Nymic on Instagram if 627 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: anybody wants to scroll down and find them, or I 628 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: have my graffiti Instagram site which is at the one 629 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: six nine THHG one six and nine. If anybody's wait, 630 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: wait at what it's at V one six nine THHG 631 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: and then the numbers one six and nine D one 632 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: six nine is my graffiti? Did you get that, lucky? Well, 633 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: My my graffiti name is Pike one six nine and 634 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: one six nine was my art room at North Hollywood 635 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 3: High That was where they where we did our art 636 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: class and I was in there with a bunch of 637 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: other graffiti artists, and so I chose that as my 638 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: kind of because back in the in New York, a 639 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of graffiti artists would use their 640 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: street that they lived on or whatever to signify like 641 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: where they were from, like Tacky one, three eight or whatever, 642 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: and they'd have their and I was like, like, I 643 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: need a number, you know, But I didn't live on 644 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: a numbered street or anything. 645 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: Were you and Brian the same class? 646 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: We weren't in the same class. We were at North 647 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: Hollywood High together though, but I I left. I'm like 648 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: a year and a half. 649 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 2: Older than him, but he both went there. 650 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, we went there. But I left in 651 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: eleventh grade and went over to Excelsior School, which was, 652 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: you know, like the school for ornery working. 653 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: Actors to get it done the actors. 654 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I mean I was at that school with 655 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: the I mean what. 656 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: It was that school in Lese, right. 657 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: I can't remember the other one, but I went at 658 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: that one. I was there with like Christina Applegate, balls Argetti, 659 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: Seth Benzer from crazy Town unfortunately passed away. It's very sad, 660 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: and Sleigh Moonfry and Mili Joviovic and Jenny Lewis and 661 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: crew and Johnny Whitworth and I mean this the list 662 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: goes on and on, Ernie Rays Junior, a whole bunch 663 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: of folks. It was. It was a hilarious experience. We'd 664 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: only go to school from I think it was like 665 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: eight forty five to twelve noon every day. This one 666 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: teacher named mister Van who was an avid surfer, and 667 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 3: he would lock the principles out of his room and 668 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: change his clock if there was a big surf that day, 669 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: and he'd leave. He'd leave school like forty five minutes early. 670 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: He's gotta he's got to get to the waves. That's 671 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: what happens in California with the people. 672 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: They have to get to the ocean totally. 673 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: You are so multi fascinated. 674 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: Is that the right word? Multis fascinating? 675 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: I'll take fascinated either one. Right. 676 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Such an interesting career you've had and just so many 677 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, just like you were the nineties guy. 678 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: It was fun, Yeah, the guy. 679 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: And it was just such a thrill to have you 680 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: on our show. And I know that we both love 681 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: getting to know. 682 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: It's excited to see you and. 683 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: Catch Yes, it's great to see both of you again too. 684 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: It's so cool. I love it. It's it brings back 685 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: a lot of memories, so. 686 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Great to see you. 687 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on with us today. 688 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 3: It's my pleasure you too.