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Speaker 2: And welcome to five point fifty seven. This is Katie Akin.

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Speaker 2: She is the host of the Girls in Low Places

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Speaker 2: podcast and how this came together was I literally just

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Speaker 2: So Girls in Little Places they are based in London,

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Speaker 2: There were times I think, I don't know what was

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Speaker 2: But so yeah, we talked about country music. We talk

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Speaker 2: about a whole lot of stuff, and I encourage you

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Speaker 3: I will tell you the sea word gets used. Did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan's heavy, It's a lot. Dang, that's good.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing surrounding is a little what do you

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Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of words used in that time. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: Now we don't do that. Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: My estate will be soon surely. So this is Katie.

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Speaker 2: We did this the day of the Cmas. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: when we talk a bit, that's the episode, just like

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Speaker 2: called Girls in Low Places. The instagram is at the

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Speaker 1: Like it actually affects our politics, what's going on our

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, I'm a freaking cardigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we get to choose which one is our

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Speaker 1: the street stuff anything, talked to all the drunk people

440
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 1: and get just any content. And he took me around

441
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Speaker 1: like some cool places in East Nashville, and I kind

442
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,199
Speaker 1: of like got to see another side that felt so

443
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,120
Speaker 1: much more authentic.

444
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 2: Have you been to any more any other states just

445
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 2: in general in America?

446
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 1: New York?

447
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,080
Speaker 3: No, not, They're bad.

448
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 1: That's not going to be a honky tnk honky talk aboutist.

449
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,240
Speaker 1: I really want to go to Austin. Actually I know

450
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,640
Speaker 1: that you.

451
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Austin's great, like but like Oklahoma, Arkansas,

452
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 2: there's no reason for you to go.

453
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,919
Speaker 3: But if you do go, that's where that's.

454
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,239
Speaker 2: Where the honky honky honky tonks are. That's a lot

455
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 2: of used to the word honkey. I'll be honest with you.

456
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have that word over there.

457
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: And what do they say. They say that's more honk

458
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 1: and less tongue or something they say.

459
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 3: I don't know they are, I've not said that, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

460
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 2: Growing up, we had the Electric Cowboy in Arkansas, uh huh,

461
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 2: and a lot of honkey talks. Pull the real ones

462
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 2: sprinkle in like nineties or two thousands since hip hop.

463
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, the ones that are like trying to

464
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: be fake honky tonks really do the extra honk as

465
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Speaker 2: you'd say.

466
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Speaker 1: Extra honk.

467
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

468
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Speaker 1: Well, even when I went to the Nashville Palace, like,

469
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: I was so shocked that they were all line dancing

470
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 1: to like to the left, to the left, to the right,

471
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, take this desk a church.

472
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: I really hope you don't put that in. That is

473
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: I just knew that. But yeah, that that's like I mean,

474
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: I think that's also why all the hip hop is

475
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: all sort of like bleeding in to the country stuff

476
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 1: now and is doing so well. I mean, absolutely love it.

477
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Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Wow,

478
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

479
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Speaker 3: So you watch Mormon Wives?

480
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watch one.

481
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 3: I have a question, so.

482
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be completely up to date, but I

483
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 1: definitely all the.

484
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: Key players great because I don't and I watch Dancing

485
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,959
Speaker 2: with the Stars. Oh and so they kicked off the

486
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: Mormon wife girl.

487
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

488
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: Now I didn't watch Mormon Wives, but I found her

489
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: to be likable on Dancing with the Stars.

490
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, no, that I know the one you mean, And

491
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: she's not likable on Mormon wise.

492
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: That was what I was so confused about, because people

493
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: were acting like she was a villain.

494
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't know her from Mormon Wives at all. What's her?

495
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: What's she like on the Mormon show? She like kind

496
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 1: of she has a real thing for the lead girl,

497
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, the guy who's going to be on the

498
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor these names.

499
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gonna be the Bachelor at.

500
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, yeah, she's She was kind of like isolated.

501
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: Time was very I think she was very shameful because

502
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: the lead girl on Mormon Wives she was doing swinging, right,

503
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: She's like soft cheating.

504
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: What it was soft?

505
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean just keys in a bowl. Let's go like,

506
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: you're you're cheating, you're swinging whatever. She was doing some

507
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: explorative stuff, which is obviously shameful in the Mormon community

508
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: to a point, but apparently it happens a lot. Actually,

509
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. The real Housewives of Salt Lake City

510
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: have been suggesting that it's actually happening a lot more.

511
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: I think Whitney and Bromwyn had a really big conversation

512
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: about swinging this week. But anyway, I.

513
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: Died Whitney's the one is the one we're talking about?

514
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: No, so there's another confusing there's a Whitney on Real

515
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City and there's a Whitney on

516
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: Mormon Wives. I think is the one that.

517
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Speaker 3: You're talking about. I think is her name?

518
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but she was very slut shamey. I'd say,

519
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe that's a bit strong slut shamey of the lead girl.

520
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: The lead's the main central girl, and I think that

521
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: then she kind of like was pitting everyone against her.

522
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: Then it turned out that like her husband was addicted

523
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: to pawn, so like it was kind of like hypocritical

524
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: that she was being so because he was having some

525
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: extramarital things going on. So it was kind of like,

526
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: don't project your insecurities on another woman, and it kind

527
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: of just I think that's that was my take on it.

528
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: But she generally is just a bit insecure.

529
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: I think I understand a bit. Then white people didn't

530
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: like her.

531
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Speaker 2: I liked her just fine because I didn't know how

532
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: that show painted her. Yeah, as you know, those shows

533
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: find your need and then just totally paint you in

534
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: the character development.

535
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: I think she was a little self righteous, and then

536
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: it turned out, like you know, the call was coming

537
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: from inside the house.

538
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: To be self righteous though as a Mormon, Like they

539
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: can dance, like generally religion that dances the best Mormons.

540
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Really, why is that?

541
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: Because I think they can't have sex.

542
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: Oh, so they can they do it with like a barrier.

543
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: I think pants are the ultimate condom.

544
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So you think that like ballroom dancing

545
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: is like their way of getting off.

546
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's true.

547
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: But I did dance, and they're but all those dancers,

548
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: they're all Mormon. Most of them are Mormon guys and girls,

549
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: and so they were so good at it. Yeah, And

550
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: so I came up with that conclusion myself.

551
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: I saw that you've I mean, if you want to.

552
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: Go about that, I'll talk about whatever you want.

553
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I saw that you have sent back your trophy. I

554
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: did so told me through that what's happened? You said?

555
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: They've been saying things about Yes.

556
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: A good interviewer here, Katie. I haven't really talked about

557
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: this at length, so I'm happy. So I did the

558
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: show six or seven years ago, and I think I

559
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: was not misquoted, but I think what I said was misinterpreted.

560
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: When I said I'd never wanted to do the show.

561
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: What I had meant, hopefully in that clip, was I

562
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: never wanted to do the show. It wasn't I didn't

563
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: want to do the show. I just never wanted. My

564
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: desire was never to do Dancing with the Stars. Yeah,

565
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: And so I was working for the network doing a

566
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: different show, and they said, go on Dancing with the Stars.

567
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: You'll last four weeks, You'll be kicked off. You have

568
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: no experience, nobody that has no experience. And also, I was,

569
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: isn't as famous as some other people.

570
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not.

571
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: I'm like regionally known in rural areas. Like there's a

572
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: difference between that and fame, and so I like that

573
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: I'm regionally That's just what. So they said, go on

574
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: the show, all things considered, like we need you back

575
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: on American Idol, so we'll see in four weeks you'll

576
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: probably get kicked off. So I'm like, great, I go

577
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: over to the show again. I don't think i'd ever

578
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: watched a full episode. I'd kept up with it as

579
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: far as like it was a cultural thing, so like

580
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: I would see like clips and stuff I wasn't anti

581
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars.

582
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: I just never watched it.

583
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: No, you're not like you know, you're a stand Yeah.

584
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: So it wasn't negative, wasn't positive, but I thought I'll

585
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: do it. And they paid me like one thousand or

586
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: something to do for just the intro.

587
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: For just being on the show'd be really helpful. Right now,

588
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: I'll go out in week one.

589
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: Well, well, you have to last at least two weeks

590
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: because nobody gets kicked off week one.

591
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: Wait, you don't get anybody if you get kicked off

592
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: on No, you do.

593
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: But you get paid. You're just on for two weeks regardless.

594
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: Nobody gets kicked off week one. It's like dancing communism.

595
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: Everybody is the same, nobody goes home. So I do

596
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: the show, and I was so fish out of water

597
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: on that show. Never had danced. I didn't know what

598
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: an eight count was because I have no And most

599
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: people in any sort of performance have done some sort

600
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: of training. Even if you're like a Broadway actor, You've

601
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: you've done some sort You've done a box step.

602
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: Yes, and my partner at the time, I don't know

603
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: what a box step is? Now? Is that a four?

604
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: Come on?

605
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: You know? What a box.

606
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know what that's called.

607
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: You've won dancing with this, you know, maybe you should

608
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: have said.

609
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, maybe they deserve to have it. I don't

610
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: know what a box.

611
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: So my partner had been a finalist multiple times, she

612
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: had never won, and I think I know she was.

613
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: Oh so she was like hungry, she was like ready

614
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: to win.

615
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: She deserved to have a good partner.

616
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: And I know that when she got me, or I

617
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: feel when she got me, she was like, oh my god,

618
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: not because who I was, not because like me as

619
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: a person, I'm fine in a work hard But I

620
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: had no clue, like she was having to start from negative,

621
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: and so did the show.

622
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: I had no idea because they don't tell you week

623
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: to week.

624
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: There's like a federal law because of a quiz show

625
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: that you know, way back in like the maybe the sixties.

626
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: When there's money involved in the show, you can show

627
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: no favoritism to any contestant. You can't cut somebody because

628
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: you just don't want them on the show, like it

629
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: has to be done by the book. So, but they

630
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: also wouldn't tell us where we were finishing each week.

631
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: All I know is I was never in the bottom three,

632
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: and so the show happened, and I just kept on it,

633
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: kept living. Every week I was not in the bottom three,

634
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: I'd skate by with sevens and eights and finals come

635
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: and I win, and I'm like, holy crap. And it

636
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: was the first like non at least middle to great

637
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: dancer that won the show.

638
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: That was me. I won by far because of fan vote.

639
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: So we'll finish the show and every year around October,

640
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: just in whatever algorithm it is, I just get trashed

641
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: by that audience because they're like, we can't have another

642
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: Bobby Bygone sucks.

643
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything except win the freaking show.

644
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: And so I just get for like a month because

645
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: this year it was Andy Richter who was on the show,

646
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: and they were like, if we have another Bobby.

647
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: Last year it was somebody.

648
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: So I've now been the person that is associated with

649
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: somebody who sucks.

650
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: But it's okay. So let me just get this super literal.

651
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: So you were a great sort of cost member personality

652
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: who could dance pretty well, worked really hard, and it's

653
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: one like the best amazing dancer ever. But you kind

654
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: of like won people over throughout the time, and then

655
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: you won and it was great. Yes, but you feel

656
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: you feel that other people feel that there were stronger

657
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: dances that year.

658
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 3: We know there were stronger to every dancer, right, stronger, But.

659
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: You were slow, steady and won the audience over and

660
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Speaker 1: it was good and you won, and there we go.

661
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: Yes, but now I've been the what a bad dancer

662
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: is because I won.

663
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's you.

664
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: There were worst dancers on my season than me, but

665
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: I won. So now it's often when someone lasts for

666
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: a long time, they compared them to me, and it's

667
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: every year, it's every dight in whatever.

668
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't care. Fine. I had surgery on my foot,

669
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: so I was.

670
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: I was on paint pills and I love Tom bergeron

671
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: the old Host, and he was saying some things and

672
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: it was reflective of me in a negative way, and

673
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: I was like, a, feelings are hurt. So I meld

674
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: a mirrball back and I was, it's a little dramatic.

675
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: I was on paint pills, and I thought, if I'm

676
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: gonna get on say this, I should at least show it,

677
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: just not be a video.

678
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: I'll just send the trophy back.

679
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: And so I send the trophy back is a gesture,

680
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: like you guys don't want me to be there. Here's

681
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: a trophy. But I love my time on the show.

682
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: I loved everybody associated with the show. The network has

683
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: reached out to me and said, hey, sorry about that.

684
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Have you heard from anyone?

685
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, a few days ago.

686
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh, get the receipts I can read to you. Oh my,

687
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: I've not talked about it this yet.

688
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: It's not nice to be the scapegoat for someone else's agenda.

689
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: I feel like we sometimes get a little bit of

690
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: that because we're pushing the envelope with our interviews. I

691
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: get I get a lot of heat from things like that,

692
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: so I can relate.

693
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: And I get heat a lot for saying things. But

694
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that because I said it it. Yeah,

695
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: this is I've now been the guy that represents everybody

696
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: the thing, and I rewatched all my dances for the

697
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: first time ever and did a whole series that had

698
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this and actually wasn't that bad.

699
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: But I just believed that was so bad because the

700
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: Internet had told me I was so bad for so long.

701
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: This is I won't say who this is, but this

702
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: is an high executive saw your post. I'm broken hearted,

703
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: and I said it's okay. I'm a feeling started. I

704
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: was also on pain pills and they said, I'm not

705
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: sure why Tom did that, and I said, yeah, and

706
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: you know that sucked. He isn't even on the show anymore,

707
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: and it's so disappointing on his part. I can speak

708
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: for the show and the network.

709
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: We all love you.

710
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: We loved your time on the show. Clearly America loved

711
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: you as well. Don't listen to people trying to get

712
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: their ten minutes. And then there was some other network stuff,

713
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: so they reached out and they were like, hey, I

714
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know who opens that that trophy

715
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: and gets it as like, what is this in the mail?

716
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: I like the your reactive though you like me, someone

717
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: hurts me, I'm doing something back. But interesting that you

718
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: say that, is that like they're getting their ten minutes

719
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: like when I So we're most known probably for when

720
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: I crawled across the table to Riley green Wright and

721
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: there was like ten people in the in the room,

722
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: his team in London, his team from Nashville, like some

723
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: of my producer, everything like that. So everyone everything was

724
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: above board. I'd interviewed him before. His managers followed like

725
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: us from day one. He liked what I did and

726
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: knew we were going to get some good personality out

727
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: of him and talk about the music. And we then

728
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: had i'd say like three or four people interview Riley

729
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: after that went out and said, you know, well known

730
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: publications and well known things in the UK, saying did

731
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: you feel uncomfortable when she did that? Did you feel uncomfortable?

732
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: How did you feel if a woman did that? Sorry,

733
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: if a man did that, it would be completely different.

734
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Thank Yeah, yeah, yeah, it not obviously realized. Well, just

735
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of like leading the audience. And it's such a

736
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: strange thing to do for a one interviewer to talk

737
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: about another interview right journalistically, like it feels weird, and

738
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I just thought, like, why why are they doing that?

739
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: They try to get story.

740
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 3: Once it hits a certain amount of streams, you're now

741
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: the story. Yeah, so that's the story. I've become the story.

742
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: A bunch of times, I just had a conversation with

743
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: somebody about something similar because they had done something that

744
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: had gone viral and they were feeling a lot of

745
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: negativity from the thing that went viral.

746
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: But what had gone viral was not negative at all.

747
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: But what I had.

748
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Described to this person was imagine you're standing on the floor,

749
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: but you're standing on a pedestal that's on the floor.

750
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: It's not lifted yet, and there are twenty people that

751
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: can see you because you're ground level, and there may

752
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: be three of them that think you're an idiot, for

753
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: others twenty. Now it's not that loud when three people

754
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: are telling you you're an idiot, when you have seventeen

755
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: that are being quiet or enjoying you. Now imagine the

756
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: pedestal goes up ten feet. Well, now like one hundred

757
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: people can see you, and now you've got fourteen to

758
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: fifteen people that are saying you're an idiot. Well, that

759
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: feels a little louder. Even though the percentage of people

760
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: that don't like you is not anymore, it does seem

761
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: a bit louder. Now imagine you boost that thing up

762
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: times ten and you've got a million people. Well, you're

763
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: gonna have one hundred people that think you're an idiot,

764
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: and they're going to come at you, and you're going

765
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 2: to feel like I'm very hated, and actually you're not.

766
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: You have ninety nine thousand people that love you, but

767
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: they don't.

768
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: Really speak they just push the heart button.

769
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you're not actually getting more disliked because

770
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: you're getting more famous. You just have that same percentage

771
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: of idiots that grows because the same the percentage of

772
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: people are growing.

773
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: So that's what happened to you. You became the story.

774
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I needed that. You just became

775
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: my therapist. It's been really weird because I thought I'm

776
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: quite thick skinned, like I'm not like you know, nineteen.

777
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: I thought like I've worked in sort of different industries

778
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm going to be fine with

779
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: this sort of trolling and the backlash and stuff like that.

780
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: But it hurts and it's not something I expected when

781
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: you are trying to be comedic or like trying to

782
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: like entertain people that they can come for you in

783
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: that way. And I think because we are British, humor

784
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: meets you know, Nashville Guy is a lot of what

785
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: we do. It It provokes people in different ways and

786
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm happy with that because it means we're doing something right,

787
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: like we're entertaining. We're a different interview. There's definitely space

788
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: for a legendary interview, but there's space for this new

789
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: kind of interview that is something else and you know

790
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: that's been proved with as I say, chicken Shop, call

791
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: her Daddy. Like there is different ways of doing things

792
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: and there's an audience for it, and it's great because

793
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: it brings out the personality of the artists in a

794
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: completely different way. But it's there's there's some things I've

795
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: I've figured like from doing this, like we've only been

796
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: doing it like eighteen months, like we're still baby, but

797
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: like lots of things look different than what I thought

798
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: they would look from where we're at now. Lots of

799
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: things look better that I didn't expect would look better,

800
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: and lots of things are like they're like painful as

801
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: like you know, as an individual and also as it

802
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: being like my heart and soul, my baby that I've created.

803
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Like so I think also something that's really like struck

804
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: me as like how many people when they see you

805
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: doing something good on a bigger platform or go and

806
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: try and take it and do it themselves and they

807
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: can't quite do it because they don't have that magical

808
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: that like sort of like you know, they try and

809
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: replicate something that you're about. I find that like bonkers

810
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: to me. I never thought that would happen, that people

811
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: would see something good and go Okay, I'm gonna like

812
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: in a bigger way. Like that's like and also being

813
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: on camera every week, do you find it like exhausting

814
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: to be just filmed all the time? Because I thought,

815
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I've got a few narcissistic qualities. I'll

816
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: be absolutely fine with it, but I find it really

817
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: quite draining.

818
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: I find I don't get as tired of it because

819
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't watch it back.

820
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Editing.

821
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're yeah, well you'll get rich like me,

822
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: and you don't have to do your own editing because

823
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: one day I used to have to my own editing

824
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 2: one day.

825
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I don't watch it.

826
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't look you don't just don't look at it.

827
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: That's a great way of thinking about Yeah, I'm like,

828
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm constantly watching it back being like, oh my god.

829
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: Oh I could see where you can easily pick yourself

830
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: apart if you're editing.

831
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god.

832
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: I Also it's like you you almost have to lose

833
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: the vanity part of it, especially with anything that's comedic.

834
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I was also really worried about this today because obviously

835
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: we're filming this on CMA day. Right, So I've got

836
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: my hair done. We just had Tuckle wet More got

837
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: a blow dry. Lovely, how kind of him, Tucker wet More,

838
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: he got a blow dry ready for he got some blowy.

839
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if we're a blow dryer.

840
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if hen I can return the favor one day.

841
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Oh going to use that gug later to him. So

842
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know he he yes, a blow dry,

843
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: blow out, blowy then or you guys did it? No,

844
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: he didn't. He wasn't blow drying my hair.

845
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: Out, but he paid for Did he pay for you

846
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: to go and get it done?

847
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: Yes, well his PR team did. But yes, he's doing

848
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: that today. Yes, so yes, so because it's the blonde

849
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: and the brunettes finding it Ali Brunette. So you know,

850
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: I got my hair blow dried up. But then I

851
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to look like like I

852
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: come on here like a drag queen looking crazy for

853
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: your thing. But then I've also got to go and

854
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: sit on like I'm going on the red cover with

855
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: a Union Jack Mini spice girl dress. I got to

856
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: stand out there.

857
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: So that's that's what I think of Ginger Spice.

858
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: That's the I'm doing Ginger Spice.

859
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: I just watched a TikTok of is it terrible? I

860
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: didn't like it.

861
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: For the record, I didn't push like, but I was

862
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: entertained and it was like this dude was ranking all

863
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: the Spice girls how hot they are?

864
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: Now terrible, that is terrible. I watch it.

865
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: I still watch it.

866
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I watched it all. But we would probably.

867
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Sit here and do it. But we don't pit women

868
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: against each other.

869
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: But they never showed Ginger. They were like, she's number one,

870
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: but they never showed her.

871
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: See I was talking to I was talking to cassieashing

872
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: about this the other day. Right when we were younger,

873
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: I think all the girls wanted to be Baby Spice,

874
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: and when we're older, we're like, no, Ginger Spice was it?

875
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: Like Ginger was cool, mouthy, sexy, hot, and we all

876
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to be Baby Spice.

877
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: Baby Spice is still kind of killing.

878
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: It though, right Radio Center on, Yeah, Emma Bunton, Yeah, yeah,

879
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: she is killing it.

880
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: Do people like Victoria? Is she well liked or she

881
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: just famous?

882
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: She is a national treasure, an icon. I think people

883
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: fall in and out of love with the Beckhams all

884
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: the time. I think that they're so famous that they

885
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: can't be human. No, I think she actually humulizes that.

886
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: She's actually very, very funny, So I think she humanized herself. Well,

887
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: I think that they are like British Royalty in their

888
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: own way. You know that they're amazing, but like you know,

889
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: I think she's amazing. I hear things about him that

890
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

891
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: Have you seen him in a person?

892
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: Yes? Is he strikingly good looking? I think he's had

893
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: too much filler? Yeah, sorry, David, I.

894
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: Know I can see it because I think that's general,

895
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: Like Jen Pop in performance, everybody wants to keep up

896
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: and so they can look right on camera and they look.

897
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, you've seen like Bradley Cooper.

898
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: Haven't I seen him a person?

899
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: He's it's well, he had a chin job very early

900
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: on the day. If you go back and watch Sex

901
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: and City, you know he's in Sexton City. He has

902
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 1: an episode with Sarah Jaxa Parker where he's like playing

903
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: some young guy that she's like running around with the

904
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: clubs with, and his chin is so different to when

905
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: you see him in like The Hangover, like ten years later.

906
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: He had a chin job early in the game. But

907
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: now he's gone too far with the filler.

908
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: Have you seen him a person in real life? No,

909
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: but I just have seen the contrast of him.

910
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: I've seen pictures recently. Actually know I have seen him

911
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: a person. Once in the very in Chiltern Firehouse, very

912
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: it up, dimly lit.

913
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, that's a restaurant.

914
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like kind of like a soher house. He

915
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of very like you always see celebrities. Now, I

916
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell I was doing there. I

917
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: was probably lost, but I yeah, I saw him.

918
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: And people think you're famous. Now do you get that

919
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: at all?

920
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: I think if I answer this question, everyone will rinse

921
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: me back. You're like, that's absolutely fine. No, I would say,

922
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I can't even look at you straight. My best friend

923
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: of who I created the podcast with, is here in

924
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: the room with me, and I can't even answer this

925
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: question looking at her. I think in the country scene

926
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: we're very well known. In any other scene, I'm an

927
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: absolute nobody, but the country scene is is poppin', and so.

928
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: Its fractional fame in general. I think, now, no, it's

929
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: hard to be ubiquitous. Yeah, it's hard to be just famous.

930
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: But you can own an area.

931
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: That's the craziest thing is that, like I've when we've

932
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: come here, I haven't come back since the like since

933
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: the podcast has been like a thing thing, and we've

934
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: come back. I got recognized on the plane. I've got

935
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: recognized like so many people places here. I'm more famous

936
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: here than I am in the UK. And I'm like,

937
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: what the hell is that? Because a half of our

938
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: audience is Nashville. Because I think that you guys want

939
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: to see a British girl interviewing these stars in a

940
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: completely different way. I think that's kind of like an

941
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: interesting like what. I think it was harder when we

942
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: started because when we started the podcast, it was me

943
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: and Ozzie, who's in the room today. We kind of

944
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: like sat on the sofa just shooting the shit. And

945
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: I think that was less interesting to an American audience

946
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: because they don't want to hear two British girls talk

947
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: about country music so much because you're like, you don't

948
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, Like you don't live here,

949
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: you don't breathe it. But I think as I've now

950
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: got more guest focused, I think that's interested. It piqued

951
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: the interest of the American audience a lot more because

952
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: they want to see that sort of like very strange

953
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: interview they've never seen before. But do you know how

954
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: the podcast started? Why it started?

955
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 3: Of course I do, but tell everybody else how it started.

956
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: So basically I was getting married as engaged to a lovely,

957
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: lovely guy. Still love him very dearly. But we live

958
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: in a sort of farming community community called Devon. It's

959
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: beautiful if you ever get the chance to go, go

960
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: and I we were getting married in the June and

961
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: I went on my hendu, which is a bachelorette which

962
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: someone thought I was saying Hindu. Yeah, someone thought I

963
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: was saying Hindu yesterday, like the religion.

964
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: And that's what I would have thought too, Like didn't.

965
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: Really say hendukh like gnd o.

966
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two words hen do, got it? Yeah? So

967
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to go to Nashville, like

968
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: I love country music. Great, let's go up before fantastic.

969
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: So I come here. I do it all. I do

970
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: the buses down Broadway. We are the.

971
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: Right, Like if you did it right?

972
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: No, but you know I can tell you something, you

973
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: know that guy in I don't know if this was

974
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: all a lie. Sometimes I think, was it all like

975
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: you know that guy who's in Star is Born, who's

976
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: that's called Sam? No? Sam?

977
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: Sam Elliott?

978
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Sam Elliott's love child that he

979
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: apparently doesn't acknowledge that he he had is a dude.

980
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: And he was like chatting me up and like being all.

981
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: Like that, and so I was like, pie, no chance.

982
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that's no chance? You think I've been done? Yeah?

983
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: Have I been had?

984
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: No chance?

985
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

986
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no chance. Anyway, that's funny.

987
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Anyway he was. He was flown away with me. There

988
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: was a few crazy things going on, but generally nothing,

989
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: nothing untoward happened. I went home and everyone was like

990
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: who do you have sex with? Who do you have

991
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: sex with? What happened? But nothing happened. I just came

992
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: here and I realized, oh my god, I have something

993
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: else to do in my life, and I don't think

994
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I can do it in a tiny farming town in Devon.

995
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: And its suddenly lots of other things just like came

996
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: to my realization that I was like, I'm gonna call

997
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: this wedding off. So I went home. What Yeah, Nashville

998
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: broke me. So I went home, called off the wedding.

999
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: It was heartbreaking, and then I I was in a flummox,

1000
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: as you would be right, and I was like, I've

1001
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: got to have something positive and I've got to work

1002
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: in country music in some way if I if I'm

1003
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna do this, I've got to make it work. And

1004
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: so I just went to my friend Ozzie, who we've

1005
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: always talked about country music and like girl group chats.

1006
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: I said, look, I think there's a gap. We don't

1007
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: seem to We have a lot of like legendary media

1008
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: talking to us in a very normal way. There's not

1009
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: many female presenters, Like why don't we just start country

1010
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: music podcasts and see what happens. And I think Ozzie

1011
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: looked at me and was just like, I'm just gonna

1012
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: entertain this because she's obviously going through something. I will

1013
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: sit and talk with her, and this is gonna go nowhere.

1014
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: We might get the old free gig ticket. Like that

1015
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: was it. And I have just ever since really been

1016
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: like a dog with a bone. It's been a passion project.

1017
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: It's been a project out of heartbreak and it just

1018
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: started working and we just got an amazing response straight

1019
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: away with the guests. We started to be able to

1020
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: go and see get the response from the girls in

1021
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the UK who were like finally a voice for women

1022
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: in the UK, and it's just gone absolutely nuts and

1023
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: here we are and I'm blown up behind you. It's

1024
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: just it's absolutely bananas. But it just shows I think

1025
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: that if you I mean, I'm thirty five, I'm not

1026
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: a young spring chicken. Like the fact that I'm known

1027
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: as kind of like the crazy new hot young moment

1028
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: just call myself hof the crazy like new thing, young

1029
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: thing and I'm thirty five shows you how old the

1030
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: market was really in the UK, even like five years

1031
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: ago for country music. Like I'm kind of known as

1032
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: like crazy young thing and it's like that should you know,

1033
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: most other places that would have Persson would have to

1034
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: be like twenty.

1035
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: One or something.

1036
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: So the fact that like you can do something at

1037
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: I was, you know, thirty three, about to be engaged,

1038
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: living in the country, was going to have kids next year,

1039
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: and I went, no, and you can do it and

1040
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: it can happen. I just say to everyone, like, if

1041
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: you've got that passion project or you've got something you

1042
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: see in my gap in the market for just go

1043
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: for it. Just go for it. It might flop. Who cares?

1044
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: Are you making money? Now?

1045
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've started, We've got like an agent. Things

1046
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: are happening. But we definitely think that Like the sweet

1047
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: spot for our podcast is actually brands in America who

1048
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: want to break the UK market. Like that's the sweet

1049
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: spot for people reaching the right audience for us. Like

1050
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: there's brands in the UK who do great things and

1051
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: like you know, we work with the Yetty a lot.

1052
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: We're working with Dolly Wines like things like that. But

1053
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: I think any brand that wants to break the UK

1054
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: market that has a kind of Western feel to it,

1055
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: or even just as like an American like you know

1056
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: when high Noon Henun just launched in the UK like

1057
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: last year, Like you know, Russell has the song with

1058
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: the Hei Noon in the line everyone like who's a

1059
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: country family? Like, oh I have a Hi Noon now,

1060
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Like that's the perfect sort of thing for how we

1061
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: hit both markets.

1062
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

1063
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

1064
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite all time country artists?

1065
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: I'm very excited if I get to talk to Kelsey

1066
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Ballerini tonight, Like I really like the fact that she's

1067
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: opened up the conversation for women about the questioning of

1068
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: whether you know she should be having kids right now

1069
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: or whether she should focus on her career. Very coded

1070
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: to what I just explained about me calling off my

1071
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: life and doing this. Like. I love the conversations that

1072
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: she opens. I mean, she's probably one of my favorites

1073
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: to listen to. We were listening to Subject to Change

1074
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: this morning when we were trying to get out of

1075
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: our Broadway hangover, being like, you know, I'm up, I'm down.

1076
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm subject to change. You know, if you're going down,

1077
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm going down too. We also said that to each

1078
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: other today when we looked at each other, going girl,

1079
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: if this goes badly today on the carpet, if you

1080
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: go down, I'm going down to. So I do love

1081
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Kelsey to interview, though I'm trying to think who I

1082
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: would love to interview, who I haven't interviewed already. I

1083
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: really like that Morgan Wallen does lean into the dry

1084
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: humor interviews, like he's done that stuff with like THEO

1085
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I do like that. I really

1086
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: want to get Bailey Zimmerman. I think me and Bailey

1087
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Zimmerman in a room could be crazy. There could be backflips.

1088
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: We could swing in on ropes, you know, we'd just

1089
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: drive off into the distance in one of his massive

1090
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: four by fours.

1091
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: He just buy a Lamborghini.

1092
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that, Josh Ross. You did Josh Ross

1093
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: the other day and Josh Ross told me that he

1094
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: would Bailey would pick a car over a girl anytime.

1095
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bailey is like my favorite person really person

1096
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: like like people. Yes really, Yeah, we just grew up

1097
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: very similar and so like I kind of get it,

1098
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: and so yeah, I love Bailey. If Bailey went to jail,

1099
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: hopefully he would call me, like it's one of those

1100
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: where I'll be like, I'll come get you and we'll

1101
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: fix it.

1102
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be calling me, he'd be sat next to

1103
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: me in the cell.

1104
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll like Bailey alive. That's probably you guys together by.

1105
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: Too much though, Like someone someone would be in jail,

1106
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: someone would die.

1107
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: It'd be a lot because he has that energy all

1108
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, he's a great, great, great kid. Yeah,

1109
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: just I have what I just beat into him is

1110
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: do not getting very pregnant?

1111
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Yes, do not?

1112
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: I will especially Katie did not get Katie pregnant, So hey,

1113
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: what's up now?

1114
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: That would be such a good storyline for the podcast. Though,

1115
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: come on, Bailey, get me pregnant.

1116
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 2: So you and this this Sam Elliot guy, you didn't

1117
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: do anything.

1118
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: No, no, I think he was like married or something. Nothing.

1119
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: He was just blurting away, being annoying, being silly.

1120
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: And n his his line to come on to you

1121
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: as Sam Elliot's love child and he doesn't know about it. Yes,

1122
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my, do you think actually

1123
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 2: Sam Elliott's love child use that as a line?

1124
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Does some aliet I have a love child?

1125
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1126
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, not one, he acknowledges anyway. But no, yeah, yeah,

1127
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: he used that as a line one hundred percent. But

1128
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I like you. You see a girl, a British girl

1129
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: in a veil in Nashville. It was crazy, you know,

1130
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: you get a lot. Yeah, it was crazy, But it

1131
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: wasn't about that. It was honestly, hand on hert. It

1132
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: wasn't about that. It was about me going. You just know,

1133
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: it's a gut feel and it's funny when you do

1134
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: a project. I'm sure you know this all the time,

1135
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: Like when you do something that doesn't fit and doesn't

1136
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: feel right or doesn't it doesn't work it just doesn't work.

1137
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: When something works, all the doors start going yes because

1138
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: you're on the right path, Like something in the universe

1139
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: was telling me you got to do this, And since

1140
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: we started it, it's just gone yes, yes, yeah, yes,

1141
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: yes yes. I mean we were at the backstage of

1142
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: the opera last night and I was just crying if

1143
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: we were taking intens to cry, like it's just like

1144
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: it can't we can't believe we've got to where we've

1145
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: got to. It just feels like magic's in the air

1146
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: for this podcast and this time and country booming and

1147
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: just yeah, everything it's nice, Like Carrie love Carrie. Yeah,

1148
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: we'd love to interview Carrie. She apparently she's a hoot.

1149
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: I think Carrie gets a raw deal on the internet

1150
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: because she's very shy until she's on a microphone and

1151
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: then she's great. Yeah, but you know you'll see things

1152
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: like Carrie was at the mall and she wasn't nice.

1153
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: I've never known Carrie to not be nice, but I

1154
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: have known Carrie to be extremely introverted. And I think

1155
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: I'm extremely introverted. Like when I'm not on, I'm not on,

1156
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: and there are people be like, man, what a dick

1157
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: and that's not the case. I feel like nobody really

1158
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: wants me to talk, so I don't talk.

1159
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1160
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: I think Carrie is the victim of that sometimes where

1161
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: people will say, well I saw her.

1162
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: And she was not super nice anxiety she is, She's awesome. Yeah, yeah, so's.

1163
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: It's so tiring to be like from the small, small

1164
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: bit of like people knowing who we are in the

1165
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: UK when I go to a gig, it's not like

1166
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: I go to a gig and I sit down and

1167
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: enjoy it. And I sometimes think to myself, I ruined

1168
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: every country gig in the UK for the rest of

1169
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: my life because I can't just go. If someone says, hey,

1170
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, girls are the places, I am like, hi,

1171
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: how are you?

1172
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 5: Like?

1173
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: I really want to be lovely to everyone because of

1174
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: that fear, and it means that you can really run

1175
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: your energy into a ground. Especially I feel like because

1176
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: we lead with chaos optically because that's what we want

1177
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: to do.

1178
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: People probably expect it from you all the time.

1179
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: Yes, but also it means that like we were like,

1180
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, we can't get nuber. Today it was a

1181
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: little bit difficult because it's SMA Day and we're like

1182
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: ten minutes late, and I'm thinking, oh, God, like I

1183
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: don't want to look like because we promote chaos. I

1184
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: always want to be on time early, like ready to

1185
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: go super professional, because like half our brand is chaos.

1186
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: But I also want to be that person who's respectful

1187
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: and time. So it means that like, I can run

1188
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: myself into the ground of losing energy around an event

1189
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: even before I've even interviewed anyone like, and I find

1190
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: that's really tiring because as a people pleaser, and you

1191
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: just want to, yeah, especially in the start something, you

1192
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: want to like everyone to like you. And I think

1193
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: I need to maybe just be a little bit because

1194
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: I can get really tired before I'm even going to

1195
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: go on that carpet tonight, because I just want everyone

1196
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: to be like they're doing something good and then they're

1197
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: respectful and nice and and I'm sure that happens with

1198
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the fame on that level of Carrie,

1199
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: of how much anxiety that would feel feed into and then.

1200
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: You'd well, then you just don't go out.

1201
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Right or she'd like be super the anxiety blars up

1202
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: more of people saying I'm mean to everyone, God, how

1203
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: am I acting? What am I doing. If I'm looking

1204
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: mean now, if I've got a mean, resting bitch face,

1205
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: like what's going on? You would just spin in your

1206
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: own head. It must be awful.

1207
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, But I mean it's the house that

1208
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: she built. I think she handles it well. But she

1209
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: if you do read those stories, I find them and

1210
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: be wholly inaccurate about her. I think she's great, and

1211
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: it's not like her and I have this crazy close relationship,

1212
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: but we have spent a little time together outside of

1213
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: just this type of environment.

1214
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: But there's some really great people.

1215
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: When I moved here, I thought, I don't want to

1216
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: be friends with anybody because I want to not have

1217
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: biased when talking about situation.

1218
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: I really avoided that.

1219
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh so you don't friends that you don't make friends

1220
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: with these.

1221
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: I do now because they're just great people. There's some

1222
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: great people.

1223
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: But forever I my goal was to make no friends

1224
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: so I could talk bad about people and it.

1225
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: Wasn't just talk bad.

1226
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: But I didn't want to not I didn't want to

1227
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 2: like pull punches. Do you have that the other phrase

1228
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: pull punches?

1229
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Pull punches?

1230
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1231
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: I didn't want to like not go at something that

1232
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to go at. Because I had a personal

1233
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: relationship with you. But then there were people that I

1234
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: would meet and I would go, oh, they're just awesome.

1235
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: Why am I keeping myself from that relationship?

1236
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1237
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: One of my best friends is Brett Eldridge, Like he's like,

1238
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: you know, my guy, Derek's Bentley excellent.

1239
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: Like, there's some really great people.

1240
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: So when I led this one was like, there's some

1241
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: terrible people there are, but there are also some really

1242
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 2: one or for people here, it's it's it's a little

1243
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: bizarre though, because you never know, especially here with a

1244
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: new art or just people in the industry. With me,

1245
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: I never know what they want from me. Oh okay,

1246
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: like do they want to be on the podcast? Do

1247
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: they want to be on the radio show? Do they

1248
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: want me to you know?

1249
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: So there's always do you want to like sort of

1250
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: like tread I.

1251
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 2: Don't tread it all. There's a there's a big barrier.

1252
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah no no no new friends, Yeah no new friends?

1253
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: No not really.

1254
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm good now, Yeah, I'm full up.

1255
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I just don't want to be that

1256
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: girl who's like hanging on or like that like that

1257
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: like you know that greepeak and tell.

1258
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: Us that you get to enjoy it with excitement because

1259
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: you're not here. That's cool.

1260
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm a baby, But that's super.

1261
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: Fun that you get to like just enjoy it for

1262
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be, awesome entertainment.

1263
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: That's what I love most about. Like, ultimately, I'm a

1264
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: fan girl, like and we get to do that with

1265
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: our podcast, Like we get to do the cool, fun

1266
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: media interview, but we also get to do it from

1267
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: the pov of like we're just I'm just a man

1268
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: girl who's like excited to be here, and we get

1269
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: to like play both sides of that coin, which I

1270
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: think is what podcasting does so interestingly like and is

1271
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: why it's you know, it feels relatable in a way

1272
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: that the traditional interview or traditional radio maybe didn't feel,

1273
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: or it did to a certain point, but the podcasting

1274
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: opens something completely different.

1275
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: A long form allows much more Intimacyeah, yes, that's super cool.

1276
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, how long do you guys? How long are you here?

1277
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: I haven't actually booked my flight home yet.

1278
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh so you're staying you're looking for Sam Elliott's love

1279
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: child again, You're you're here to you're on the search?

1280
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean I look, I would love to

1281
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: would you move here. It's interesting that one, because I

1282
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: obviously everyone's dream in the UK who's a country founder

1283
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: is to move to Nashville. Like that's like a pipe

1284
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: dream for everyone. I don't know if this market would

1285
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: like I think it's I found it quite intense. I'm

1286
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: such a fan that like to be doing some of

1287
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: the things are doing is crazy and I don't know

1288
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: if I would lose my marbles living here. I quite

1289
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: like the groundedness of the British market because they, you know,

1290
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: they slapped me back down and say get back to reality,

1291
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: you with some dry humor whatever. It is, like, it's

1292
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of the charm and I think,

1293
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: like we've got such a good thing going on in

1294
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: the UK. But I think I might be swallowed whole

1295
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: here and they'll be like, oh, just another.

1296
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't think you should move here. I think you

1297
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: have more value not here.

1298
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: Interesting.

1299
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: I think you give far more value night here.

1300
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: What's interesting about you is that you're not here, and

1301
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: that you don't sound like people from here, and you

1302
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: didn't grow up like people that are here. Yeah, I

1303
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: think that's that's why I was interested. I was watching

1304
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: you guys club. I just DM do you And I

1305
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you guys are doing a great job. Yeah.

1306
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: I normally nearly fainted when that happened.

1307
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: Okay, you've said that like three times you walk in

1308
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: like I knew? Is that your Is that your your stick?

1309
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Like you're always about to die or pee or faint

1310
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: or something pee well whatever, it's always like something like

1311
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: I'm about to cry, I'm about to pee or what

1312
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: I mean.

1313
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm just like it's just overwhelming, like it's not my thing.

1314
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm not like kidding guys, I'm about to be all

1315
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: the time. I just it's just I can't believe it.

1316
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm sat here. I've gone into a

1317
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: different part of my brain to be able to cope

1318
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: and sit here and actually make full sentences. This feels

1319
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: like I'm in a fever dream and I need to

1320
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: wake up. But I'm not waking up, and it's getting work.

1321
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: I think that's the value. And I think if you

1322
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: moved here, you wouldn't have that anything.

1323
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would get maybe a bit more like you,

1324
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: as in like I would see how the sausage is made.

1325
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to see how the sausage made. Keep

1326
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: the sausages away hate everybody.

1327
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: That's that's me. You just hate everybody like you hate

1328
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: everybody to start, and then they have to like earn.

1329
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Like, oh so you like you? You hate everyone, and

1330
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: then if they shock you, you're like okay.

1331
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: Entertainment wise, Oh okay, Yeah, it's like he's your favorite artist.

1332
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: What capacity just generally listen to musically?

1333
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: If I did, I'll just do my Mount Rushmore, John Mayer,

1334
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: Casey Musgraves, Oh yeah, County Crows.

1335
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what's Casey like? I'd love to I'd love

1336
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: to speak to Casey.

1337
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: She won't let me interview her.

1338
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh well, she won't let me interview her either, So

1339
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: that's like two of us.

1340
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: I love Casey.

1341
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: So Casey and I got into a huge fight when

1342
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: I first moved here. Yeah, and it was on me

1343
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 2: at this point.

1344
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: What did you do?

1345
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 3: No, I was a bull in the china shop.

1346
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Well I did hear you put up posters saying bigger?

1347
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: What did you do about billboards?

1348
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like street get Bobby out of Nashville most.

1349
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: Maybe the British interpretation is that, but no, it was

1350
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: a go away Bobby bones so good.

1351
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, I was.

1352
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: I moved here, and there's two types of there's two

1353
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 2: types of actual country people. There's cowboys, there's trailer trailer park,

1354
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: and I was trailer park. There's like right, there's like

1355
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: there's like redneck white trash, and there's cowboy. The problem

1356
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: that I ran into when I moved here was I

1357
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: was so unapologetic, not a cowboy, and I wasn't gonna

1358
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: fake being a cowboy.

1359
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: You're not cosplaying none. You weren't doing the escapism that

1360
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: the UK is when we all turn up in cowboy

1361
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: House of the Gigs.

1362
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: And I was being told by.

1363
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 2: Like consultants or the industry, like you're not one of us, yeah,

1364
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: And my tendency is okay, I'm really not one of

1365
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: you then, And so I was out of control. I

1366
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 2: was a I had knives out. I was attacking anything

1367
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: that I felt at all was coming at me. It

1368
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: was a really difficult three or four years.

1369
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: Anyway. You threatened Casey Malsgrave with a knife.

1370
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: Not.

1371
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: Literally.

1372
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: We had a moment during the CMA interviews when I

1373
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: used to do those, and now I understand Casey's just quiet.

1374
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: It's like the carry thing, yeah, And I took it

1375
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: as one thing, like oh, she's not being very nice.

1376
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1377
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: It absolutely wasn't that. It was her personality. Met my

1378
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: knives out, yep, yep. And I just went on the

1379
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: air and was just like I would with ten other people,

1380
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: just eviscerate people and would be like this sucks. I've

1381
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: since said I was completely the wrong and sorry, and

1382
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: I've even seen her and was like, hey, I'm really

1383
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: sorry about that, and she was like, oh man, we're

1384
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: all good.

1385
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: We're all good. But she doesn't do a lot of

1386
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: interviews anyway, so I don't think like she's avoiding me.

1387
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: No, she's just kind of like doesn't know. I don't

1388
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: want to say, doesn't need to. But there are some

1389
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: stars who like are just focusing on the music what

1390
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: they want to do, and they don't want to do

1391
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: the press, and that's and.

1392
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: It makes them cooler by not doing anything if you

1393
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: can commit tone doing anything. Yes, So Casey's Casey's my favorite,

1394
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: like love Casey, So she's my and then probably someone

1395
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: like a do W ben Folds is ben Folds. I

1396
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: just like instruments, and I think that's why I like

1397
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: country music. Yes, I like acoustic guitars and pianos.

1398
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, it's simplicity.

1399
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: Very much so.

1400
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: And so.

1401
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: But I grew up in a very rural Arkansas town

1402
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 2: trailer park type situation, moved here and I was playing

1403
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: some hip hop on the country you know, of the

1404
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: country station.

1405
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: I was just still myself.

1406
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: I never changed, and it wasn't met warmly by this

1407
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: by this area because I just wasn't part of the system.

1408
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: And then when they told me I wasn't part of

1409
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: the system and I wasn't going to survive, that's when

1410
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: I really got angry with the system and it's revisions history.

1411
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: I showed up and everything was great. Now, everything's great, yeah,

1412
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: but it definitely wasn't for a long time. And so

1413
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: I bought billboards in the city that had no attachment

1414
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: to me said go away, Bobby Bones for the simple

1415
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: reason of I wanted people to either go who is

1416
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: Bobby Bones?

1417
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: Or why are they picking on Bobby Bones? Or I

1418
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: agree those three reasons.

1419
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, never said anything about it, And then until I

1420
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: wrote my first book, nobody knew for years.

1421
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: Yes, now it is.

1422
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: It was risky, risky at the time, expensive at the time,

1423
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: I bet, yeah, it's before I was rich.

1424
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I did walk into this house today and

1425
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: I nearly fainted.

1426
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: I make that you nearly ped as you fainted, Yes,

1427
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: nearly pool. Oh how many cmas have you been to?

1428
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: How many awards?

1429
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: How many CMA awards have I been to? Zero? Oh?

1430
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: This first one, this is the first one I know,

1431
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: was awesome.

1432
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: First one was awesome, second and third one. It gets

1433
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: the TV.

1434
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: The commercials suck at a live event, know, it's awesome.

1435
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: Number one is it's always so much fun because the

1436
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: performances are cool.

1437
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: It's just like a television taping.

1438
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: They're just slow and clunky in real life because of

1439
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: how they have to be presented on television.

1440
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have had that. I'm a little bit worried

1441
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: about l So I bumped into Kelly Sutton last night

1442
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: and she was amazing soup. I mean she's doing it?

1443
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 3: Is she with the Oprey?

1444
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes she was. Yeah.

1445
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that what you're talking about you saw at

1446
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 3: the Opry?

1447
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah.

1448
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: And then but then half the words you say, I'm

1449
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: just kind of guessing what they are. I'm gonna be honest,

1450
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: because I don't know sometimes and I'm just like, well,

1451
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: based on the six words I understood, I think this

1452
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: is what she meant.

1453
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: Then I just go.

1454
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: So if you've noticed at times I've been a bit disconnect,

1455
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: like maybe I haven't responded to exactly what you said,

1456
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of me just taking most.

1457
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: Of it and guessing we're gonna have to have some

1458
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: sort of like translation to feel like some sort of

1459
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: like Yeah, I love Kelly too. Absolutely. She's been a

1460
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: really big champion of our podcasts and like what we're

1461
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: doing for the female listenership, so like I huddle, but

1462
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: she gave me some interesting tips, that interesting information that

1463
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: no one else had given us, by the way, which

1464
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: I think I was like, oh, interesting that no one

1465
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: else gave us that information. But Kelly is a she's

1466
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: a real one. She gave us the information that the

1467
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: red cop is like an L and like you have

1468
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: some people that will walk here, so let's say Combs

1469
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: or someone who's huge, right, they'll walk here, and then

1470
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: they'll just keep walking into the venue, and then there'll

1471
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: still be loads of like, let more junior press on

1472
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: the other side of the L, so like they will

1473
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: only do like you know, the top big broader and

1474
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: then they'll go so little old me who will be

1475
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: probably by the toilets or you know, somewhere by the

1476
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: bins over here because we're.

1477
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 3: Buried in the toilet. In the toilet, well, we.

1478
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: Needed to pet the whole. So I'll be there and

1479
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to get not the people that maybe

1480
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: I was hoping for when we first but you know,

1481
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: you never know. If I'm in that Union actress, they

1482
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: might have put me next to CNN. I don't know.

1483
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: We're just gonna see it, wing it and just try

1484
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: and you know, get people's attention the whole time. I'm

1485
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: wearing a big coat.

1486
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be like this, Yeah in America,

1487
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: that's breasts. I don't know what you were doing, but

1488
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: look like you were flashing.

1489
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: Well I flashed Tucker wet More and I'm quite famous

1490
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: for that. But that's that was when I came for

1491
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: the CMA. First story was if you haven't listened to

1492
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: the episode, Tucker wasn't huge yet. He was kind of

1493
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: like just on the up, but I'd seen him and

1494
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: I knew that a he was super hot, but also

1495
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: that like the song was amazing. Whenn't Missing You was

1496
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: just climbing coming out and I was in a box

1497
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: next to him at the CMAO was and I noticed

1498
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: I just got tickets through like someone had just said, hey, great,

1499
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: come here, my produced videographer in Nashville. He was like,

1500
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: this is through my work, Like behave Katie. And we

1501
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: were like on like day four or five of a bender,

1502
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: like I was drinking just to stay alive. So we

1503
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: were there in this box. I see Tucker wet More

1504
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: is like on the other side of this cars and

1505
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: I go, oh my god, this's Tuck. I went why

1506
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: I love him? And I went like this, I went hearthands,

1507
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: love you, Tucker, and he went back, you went love

1508
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: you Tucker. But then I was pissed, as in I

1509
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: was drunk, so I was like love I sort of

1510
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: just like emulated a flash. I was like yeah, And

1511
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: then he turned around and he mooned me, like to

1512
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: pull his trousers down and was like whoa. And I

1513
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what a perfect moment. And

1514
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: my other cool Nashville friends were like, this is a

1515
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: work invite, Katie. This is outrageous. You can't do this.

1516
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my god, Okay, right, I'll

1517
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: sit down. But anyway, six months past, Tucker comes over

1518
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: to c TOC Festival, which is a huge country music

1519
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: festival in the O two in London, and I was thinking,

1520
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: there's no way we have like a crazy interview with

1521
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: him anyway. But then there's no way that this guy's

1522
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: gonna remember this moment, especially now that he's got really

1523
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: quite big and I was going, I just suddenly stopped

1524
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: in the interview and the Tucker, you know, we've actually

1525
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: met before. I was at the CMA. It was a

1526
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: CMA fest. I was in the box and he literally

1527
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: just turns and this interview and goes, you flashed me,

1528
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: that was you, like, and he was. I had turned

1529
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: to my buddy and I couldn't believe it. I said,

1530
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: that girl just flashed me, Like, so we now have

1531
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: like this whole thing, this whole backstory of like me

1532
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: flashing him. So I've got a big coat on tonight

1533
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hold it together. And then when he

1534
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: walks over, I'm gonna go like that, and I'm obviously

1535
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: gonna have a dress on underneath. Don't wry g but like,

1536
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, just you keep the gag going. That's I

1537
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: like that about the podcasting and being a personality within

1538
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: it and not being just like a media outlet, like

1539
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: you get to continue the storyline, like with Riley Green tonight,

1540
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna see me and want to run the

1541
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: other direction, which is great. It's all for the storyline.

1542
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: And if I don't get Riley because he's not walking

1543
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: down the right le of the.

1544
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: Are you for sure you're at the back? Do you know?

1545
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just guessing. I don't know. We've been

1546
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: invited by the international side of the CMA, so they

1547
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: want us to cover this. I hope otherwise you're right.

1548
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: Though they do put they do layers.

1549
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: There's always going to be a hierarchy, and I realize

1550
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: we are at.

1551
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: The don't I don't think that's true, but because I

1552
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: do think it's interesting that you guys are here, and

1553
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: I think they'll want to have that exposure.

1554
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: I think if I were to give you advice, you

1555
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: didn't ask for it, So I'm for sure gonna give it.

1556
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: No, give it to me.

1557
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm a spunge because I've done both right. I've worked

1558
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: it and walked it, worked it. As the person that

1559
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: was working it, I always felt like the artist was

1560
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: always looking around because they had to go to something else,

1561
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: and they never knew how long I was going to

1562
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: hold them.

1563
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So, so do I tell them at the beginning,

1564
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: like I'm going to ask you three questions, that's exactly

1565
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: what you do.

1566
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have to be so, but you need

1567
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: to let them know what what your expectation is from

1568
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: them because they are limited and they're bouncing place to place.

1569
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: SA when I because I would always go to the

1570
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: back of the yl what do you call it the

1571
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: yel because I would do the few and then I

1572
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: would go, yeah, when I'm at when if I was

1573
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: promoting something or like at the ACMs, I'm part of

1574
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: that broadcast, so I'll go walk the carpet, and I

1575
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: would always spend extra time at the back. And so

1576
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: what's easiest is when they kind of let me know

1577
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: the expectation, because then I can give them full everything

1578
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: and not have to worry they're going to keep me

1579
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: for longer than So that would be the only tip

1580
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: that I would give you.

1581
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna go, We're gonna do three questions,

1582
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: and I want to shore a little dnswer and.

1583
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 2: Then they won't be looking around like to see if

1584
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: they're missing anything or or if they're going extra long.

1585
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1586
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have like two other questions. You know who

1588
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: I like mister Bean? Oh my god, No, no, no, no, no,

1589
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: you need no, no, don't like him anymore?

1590
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: No, you love him. I have to tell you, I

1591
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: look like mister Bean, and I think he's related to me.

1592
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: Are you his illegitimate love child?

1593
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: That's what I use when I go to the bars.

1594
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 3: That's how I get Mommy, you don't look like Rowanak.

1595
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: You don't look like I.

1596
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: Look so much like Ronak. And I'm gonna pull up

1597
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: a picture of me dressed as mister Bean, and you're

1598
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: gonna be like Jesus Christ.

1599
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna put a split up in this clip. This

1600
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: is her picture looking at the camera place, and here's

1601
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: mister Bean.

1602
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: You beat the judge. Oh you're doing that. You came

1603
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: to the face. You came to the face the impression,

1604
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 3: you came to the impressions.

1605
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: That's fair. The reason why I think I'm related to

1606
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: him is actually quite legit. Because my name is Katie Atkin.

1607
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: His name is Rowan Atkinson. Now back in the day kin,

1608
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: yeah at Kin, it means son of Adam Kin of Adam.

1609
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: So if there was a slur not slap, if there

1610
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: was a mistake in a census or something back in

1611
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: the day, and they did Atkinson because they're doing son

1612
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: of Adam Kin of Adam. So Rowan Atkinson and Katie

1613
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: Atkin could be related to each other. But there just

1614
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: like some sort of slip up and then it was

1615
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, it just then went on. So is this

1616
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: a joke or do you honestly think there could be

1617
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: so from I genuinely think there could be some connection

1618
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: because my dad looks a bit mister Beanie. My granddad

1619
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: looks mister Beanie. I'm not mister Bean's love child that

1620
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: I know of. Well, I like him, yeah, I love him,

1621
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: love love love. No, God, I don't think. I don't know.

1622
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: The world might end if we're in the same room.

1623
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 3: Okay. Final thing, the difference between the UK and England.

1624
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: Go, England is a country. We then have Scotland is

1625
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: another country. God, I'm not a geography girl. Northern Ireland

1626
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: is another country, and that is and Wales and Whales

1627
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: is another country. That is the UK but not Ireland,

1628
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: and then we have Ireland. No, So this is some

1629
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: history here that I'm linked to. My mum is Northern Irish. Okay,

1630
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: so she was in she lived, grew up in the

1631
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: troubles in Ireland and Northern Ireland, and so it's Catholics

1632
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: and Protestants. There was a lot of terrorism, awful things

1633
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: that happened in like the eighties. They there's you know,

1634
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: not as much contention now they're separate. Northerne is part

1635
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: of the UK. Island is Island, Yeah so yeah, United

1636
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: Kingdom is are United Kingdoms and then ilands separate. So

1637
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: if you go to when I go to Island, I

1638
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: actually find it feels a lot like Boston. It feels

1639
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: a bit American more so than normal.

1640
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 3: I went to Ireland.

1641
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you like it? I love it.

1642
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: It's a terrible, terrible decision for me because I was

1643
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: finishing a book and I really needed to get time

1644
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: zoned away so I wouldn't be on the same time

1645
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: zone with here, so like emails would come.

1646
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: So I wanted to go somewhere and it was like

1647
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: the closest far place.

1648
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.

1649
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: So I got on a plane and I flew to Dublin.

1650
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: Never been there. I don't drink and I'm by myself

1651
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: in Dublin. There was nothing else to do.

1652
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of Guinness.

1653
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: Everything is drink, drink, drink. Yeah yeah, so there was

1654
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: not Yeah for me, Yeah I did.

1655
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: I wrote.

1656
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: I got on a tour bus, one of those double deckers,

1657
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: and I went to a castle and it wasn't even castle.

1658
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: It was like a small village house. Yeah, you were

1659
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: at a pointy top. If you go to Northern Ireland

1660
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: with me, I could show you a lot of amazing

1661
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: places like giants causeways, beautiful walks. Island has so much

1662
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: to offer.

1663
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 3: I wanted to see Game of Thrones, yeah, and I

1664
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't.

1665
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: A giants causeway. It's kind of like Game of Thrones vibes.

1666
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, any any city like Dublin's quiet.

1667
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's a touristy city. It's kind of like

1668
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: coming to Nashville.

1669
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: And not oh very much. So it felt.

1670
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful places. But if you knew someone who

1671
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: was from Dublin, they could probably take you so a place.

1672
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: But as it's difficult when you come as an English

1673
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: person and you go to Times Square. You know, it's

1674
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: like my friends in New York were like, what the

1675
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: hell are you doing? But you do it. You go

1676
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: and see that, you know, do you the ferry? You

1677
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: do all that stuff and everything.

1678
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 2: I basically went to the Statue of Liberty in Dublin

1679
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: and went back to my room.

1680
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, that's what you did.

1681
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: Congratulations on everything. It's it's so good to meet you too.

1682
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1683
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 3: No, I'm honestly thrilled super Bowl. I hope you guys continue.

1684
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: Just I don't move here, okay, Like, can you want

1685
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: to keep an ocean between us, Bobby?

1686
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes, come if you you should come, though, you should, like, yeah, professionally,

1687
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: make two times a year or so to come, because

1688
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: I think you're going to gather so much.

1689
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 3: But if you come here, I think it loses the

1690
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: value of.

1691
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, it's quite nice to do like a

1692
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: disruptive interview here, like as in like I could out

1693
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: of the blue, because obviously we know who's coming to

1694
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: the UK, so then people be like, oh, when Ashley

1695
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: McBride comes, girls and their places are probably going to

1696
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: do her, so they can kind of expect what guess

1697
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: we're going to have. It'd be quit nice to be

1698
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: able to come here every like two three months and

1699
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: then like just do someone that they're like, what the

1700
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: hell they got that person? I would never expect that,

1701
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: so that I would really love to do that and like, yeah,

1702
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: we we love it here. I'm never gonna not love

1703
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: it here. But I think I would be mad if

1704
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: I lived here. And I respect you think that though,

1705
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 1: but then you just get tired.

1706
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: Then it's just like or I.

1707
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: Might be like more, i'd be less of a fine girl,

1708
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: as you say, a fine girl. Fan girl got me.

1709
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm a fine.

1710
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: All right, Katie, Good to see you.

1711
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,879
Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

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Speaker 2: U