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Speaker 1: Best and Worst of the weekend. Alabama, Notre Dame, Clemson,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, A and M, Oklahoma, Florida, Cincinnati on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in. College football Playoff Committee can explain their
Speaker 1: choices all day long, but we know that this isn't
Speaker 1: an exact science. We've talked about it. After Alabama, Clemson,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and Notre Dame, the Irish have a similar
Speaker 1: resume to Texas, A and M. And we know the
Speaker 1: committee like certain teams in the big conferences too long.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma jumped up to number six ahead of undefeated Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and they offer up their reasons, but they don't always
Speaker 1: stand up Ohio State played six games the eye test,
Speaker 1: but they're a blue bloody and you want them in there,
Speaker 1: great fan base. They got some players who are going
Speaker 1: to play on Sunday next year. They didn't want Alabama
Speaker 1: versus A and M. And I think that A M
Speaker 1: fans need to realize that if they were getting in
Speaker 1: the committee. I know that I've said it and I
Speaker 1: sound like I'm crazy when I say it, but so
Speaker 1: much goes into this is a TV show. You don't
Speaker 1: want blowouts. They hope they don't get them. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that they won't get them. And you might get
Speaker 1: that with Notre Dame in Alabama. Remember computers used to
Speaker 1: do this. The computers were not thinking that this was
Speaker 1: a TV show. When the BCS was deciding one versus two,
Speaker 1: that was the computer got all the information there was.
Speaker 1: The human touch was not involved in it other than
Speaker 1: feeding the information into a computer. Now you have humans
Speaker 1: who are looking at this, going do we want an
Speaker 1: M versus Alabama again? People would rather tune in to
Speaker 1: Notre Dame getting blown out by Alabama then A and
Speaker 1: M getting blown out by Alabama. If that happened, I
Speaker 1: think we could all predict what was going to happen.
Speaker 1: There was nothing. We didn't get any chaos in college football.
Speaker 1: You know, Florida went toe to toe with Alabama. I
Speaker 1: would love to see Florida and Alabama play again, believe
Speaker 1: it or not. If it comes down to Notre Dame
Speaker 1: versus Clemson, I would have liked to have seen that again.
Speaker 1: But these are the final four. Will make the best
Speaker 1: of it and hopefully we get some good games. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's really all you can ask for. I feel like
Speaker 1: the system's flawed only because it's rigged that these other
Speaker 1: schools actually think they have a chance and they don't.
Speaker 1: And that's where they need to find a way to go.
Speaker 1: Either acknowledge them, let them in, expand the playoffs, or
Speaker 1: just basically say we're just letting the Power Conferences in.
Speaker 1: That's it. But I think you're going to see expansion,
Speaker 1: and I think the momentum that has been building here
Speaker 1: not only this year, but maybe last year, and they'll
Speaker 1: expand to eight teams. I was talking to my college
Speaker 1: football source over the weekend and he said it's inevitable.
Speaker 1: The question is the Power Five Conferences ESPN you have
Speaker 1: a contract here, do you open it up? Do you
Speaker 1: wait until twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four and
Speaker 1: then go, now we're going to expand the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: don't think they can wait that long. I think you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity and you're able to expand the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And yes, you're going to get blowouts, but you got
Speaker 1: to blowout against Notre Dame in Clemson. It's going to happen.
Speaker 1: There are two great programs in America Alabama Clemson. Whoever
Speaker 1: plays them, they're ripe to be blown out. A and
Speaker 1: M is the sixth team in the country. They got
Speaker 1: blown out Clemson number two or Notre Dame number two
Speaker 1: getting blown out by Clemson. It happens. It's going to
Speaker 1: happen because there's a big disparity between those programs. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we get competitive games. That's all I asked for. I
Speaker 1: gotta have my Heisman vote in by five o'clock today,
Speaker 1: and I struggled with it. Over the weekend. I watched
Speaker 1: the Alabama Florida game from start to finish. I watched
Speaker 1: a lot of Clemson, certainly in the first half, trying
Speaker 1: to figure out where Trevor Lawrence fits in. DeVante Smith,
Speaker 1: the Alabama wide receiver, Mac Jones, the quarterback. I watched
Speaker 1: Ball State in Buffalo because I wanted to give some
Speaker 1: love to Jared Patterson, and they lost and he didn't
Speaker 1: play well like he was one of those He's had
Speaker 1: an unbelievable year thousand yards in five games, and is
Speaker 1: he looks like he could be a like a Darren's
Speaker 1: Sproles type in the NFL. But a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 1: But Buffalo lost to ball State. You know, you're looking
Speaker 1: for those players from schools that may not get a
Speaker 1: whole lot of recognition, and I always like to do
Speaker 1: that with the third person on my ballot. But I'll
Speaker 1: and I can't tell you who I'm voting for. I've
Speaker 1: been asked not to those of us who are voting.
Speaker 1: The Heisman Trust said don't tell people who you're voting for.
Speaker 1: I guess prior to the deadline. So I will certainly
Speaker 1: acknowledge that, and you know, I take it seriously, very seriously,
Speaker 1: and it's an honor to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: All right. Some other headlines here Cleveland Brown's one last night,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go back and look at what
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has done. Because John Dorsey was the GM
Speaker 1: of the Browns, and he's the one that said we're
Speaker 1: taking Baker Mayfield number one overall. Surprised everybody. But you know,
Speaker 1: in his last four games, ten touchdowns and you know
Speaker 1: the Browns one interception. So he's playing well, he's playing smart,
Speaker 1: I should say, and that's what I want out of him.
Speaker 1: This is an Oklahoma You're not going against big twelve
Speaker 1: defenses here. You got to be smart. You got a
Speaker 1: good running attack, you got some weapons, You've got a
Speaker 1: couple of defensive players who can make some plays. And
Speaker 1: this is a team that will be dangerous in the postseason.
Speaker 1: I believe if they stick to the script. It's when
Speaker 1: they don't stick to the script they're vulnerable. And last
Speaker 1: night they beat the Giants. I'm looking at the Cowboys now.
Speaker 1: I know the cow always were my preseason pick to
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. They got the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Giants. They're five and nine. Cowboys are in Okay
Speaker 1: going against the Eagles and then they got the Giants.
Speaker 1: Could the Cowboys make the playoffs here? I watched a
Speaker 1: lot of the Eagles against the Cardinals. That was my
Speaker 1: favorite game because I wanted to see Jalen Hurts and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and it was back and forth. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun there. I watched in
Speaker 1: amazement the Jets against the Rams because I kept thinking,
Speaker 1: the Jets are the Jets look like they're the playoff team,
Speaker 1: and the Rams look like they're the winless team, Like
Speaker 1: there's no life there. And I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how you explain that. But here's Sean McVay, the Rams
Speaker 1: head coach, trying to this loss will demoralize this only
Speaker 1: as much as we allow it to. It's gonna be embarrassing,
Speaker 1: sick tier stomach about it. But we do have two
Speaker 1: games left in it, and we've got to find a
Speaker 1: way to respond and rebound on a short week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one of those where you go that just happened.
Speaker 1: It truly, the Jets are in a victory formation. Here
Speaker 1: is Sam Darnold, the Jets quarterback. I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: greatest feeling in sports, you know, to be able to
Speaker 1: ice the game out and know we had it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the best, you know, for you know, just that
Speaker 1: drive alone. You know we knew we couldn't give it
Speaker 1: back to him, and for us to be able to
Speaker 1: execute when we really need it to. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was obviously something we haven't done all year. He's a
Speaker 1: good quarterback, the potential to be a good quarterback. He's athletic.
Speaker 1: You know, I just don't know what it does to
Speaker 1: your confidence level when you show up for work every week,
Speaker 1: every day and you know you're probably going to lose.
Speaker 1: And then he got hurt, lost his job. Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: came in. You lose your defensive coordinator. You know your
Speaker 1: head coach is dead man walking here. You know that
Speaker 1: the Jets fans are hoping you lose the game because
Speaker 1: then you get Trevor Lawrence. But in true Jets form,
Speaker 1: they win. And now the Jacksonville Jaguars are on the clock.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to phone calls best and worst
Speaker 1: to the weekend. By the way, the Patriots, who I
Speaker 1: said would not make the playoffs, are not making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Here is Bill Belichick with this loss. You guys were
Speaker 1: eliminated from playoff contention, first time since O eight. Just
Speaker 1: wondering your reaction to that. Disappointed, But we didn't deserve
Speaker 1: to win today, So yeah, pretty much so. And I
Speaker 1: started to look at Cam Newton's numbers because if I'm
Speaker 1: New England. Do I play Jared Stidham the last two games?
Speaker 1: Do I want to see what I have? Do they
Speaker 1: know what they have? Do I just ride this out
Speaker 1: and have Cam Newton as my starting quarterback in his
Speaker 1: last seventeen starts. So this goes back two years. Cam
Speaker 1: Newton has thrown in seventeen games, five touchdown passes, twelve interceptions.
Speaker 1: He has had almost five hundred throws over those seventeen games.
Speaker 1: As Peter King points out in his column today, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers has had four hundred seventy seven pass attempts through
Speaker 1: the same time period. He's thrown forty touchdowns. Cam's thrown five.
Speaker 1: And I know coming back from arthur'scopic surgery, this was
Speaker 1: on his rotator cuff and for those of us who
Speaker 1: have had rotator cuff surgery, just coming back for a
Speaker 1: normal life, not trying to fit a football into a
Speaker 1: small window is really difficult. And I don't think Cam
Speaker 1: has come all the way back from COVID. I don't
Speaker 1: think that you can discount that. But Cam, we're not
Speaker 1: going to see Cam a twenty fifteen, never going to
Speaker 1: come close to that. Can he still be a quarterback
Speaker 1: who starts in the NFL. Is he a quarterback who
Speaker 1: is going to be a backup quarterback? And I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be the next step to decide what
Speaker 1: happens with the Patriots. What direction they go in? Do
Speaker 1: they go after a quarterback? Do they keep Cam? Do
Speaker 1: you give him more money? Is Jared Stidham? Is that
Speaker 1: experience experiment over as well? But Patriots and I also
Speaker 1: thought about this. We have talked about Julian Edelman Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, potential Hall of Famer. I think this is
Speaker 1: it for Julian Edelman at age thirty four, you don't
Speaker 1: hear his name anymore, and his career may end up.
Speaker 1: Do they play the Jets on the last game of
Speaker 1: the season. I believe, don't they? McLevin like, could you
Speaker 1: imagine like Julian Edelman's career is going to end on
Speaker 1: a nondescript Sunday afternoon against the New York Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul and the Patriots are the hardest team to predict
Speaker 1: what they're going to do with the quarter back position.
Speaker 1: A year ago, at this time, we thought Brady would
Speaker 1: do another year or two. Then we thought they were
Speaker 1: going to go with Stidham. Then we thought, remember that
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton might be traded for That was a hot
Speaker 1: rumor that they're going after Dalton and then Cam out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. And if you could predict the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: Week one of the Patriots next year, there's like ten
Speaker 1: different names you could throw out there. But also go
Speaker 1: back to when I told you that the Patriots were
Speaker 1: interested in Baker Mayfield. They were interested into a tongue
Speaker 1: of ioloa. They have thought about this, They've explored these
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks prior to this, even when they had Brady,
Speaker 1: Belichick was kicking the tires on a couple of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why I'm surprised they didn't do anything,
Speaker 1: make a move go up in the draft, because I
Speaker 1: think they thought if Baker fell that maybe they could
Speaker 1: get him. And the fact that they were interested in Tuah.
Speaker 1: Bill is looking at who is the next quarterback and
Speaker 1: what kind of style are we going to be playing?
Speaker 1: And I think he thought he may have had that.
Speaker 1: He caught fool's gold with Cam Hey, he can run
Speaker 1: past the RPO. We love it. You know, I'm losing
Speaker 1: some defensive players, but maybe we could keep it together
Speaker 1: and still win the East it didn't happen. Yeah, mcclub.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're not doing excuses, but the
Speaker 1: opt outs hurt them, probably more than any other team.
Speaker 1: Isn't this a last year anyway? Even if Cam had
Speaker 1: been good, Yeah, but Cam didn't play well. So yes,
Speaker 1: my defense had opt outs. Cam didn't play well. Cam
Speaker 1: didn't look good. There are guys who look good and
Speaker 1: they lose. He doesn't look good even when they win.
Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily look good. He's a he's a running quarterback,
Speaker 1: and if you put him in the pocket, he does
Speaker 1: not look comfortable at all. All right, Uh, let's get
Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls in here. Let me see
Speaker 1: Barry in Long Island. Hey, Berry, sorry about your jets.
Speaker 1: Good morning fellows. Five. Yeah, yeah, you know it's only
Speaker 1: my Jets could go one in fifteen and not get
Speaker 1: the first pick. I just turned sixty. I vaguely remember
Speaker 1: the sixty nine Super Bowl win, and I pretty much
Speaker 1: resigned myself to, you know, not seeing another Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in my lifetime. Then this year, a little sliver of
Speaker 1: light comes through maybe maybe maybe, and Lucy pulls Lucy
Speaker 1: pulls the ball away from Charlie Brown. Again. Old are
Speaker 1: you I'm sixty, Well, just eat healthy and exercise, Berry,
Speaker 1: maybe you'll see this team make the playoffs in your lifetime.
Speaker 1: But I would just say, let's let's just start a
Speaker 1: workout regimen. Eat right and work out. Okay, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: at least at least we have uncle Stevie Cohen buying
Speaker 1: the Mets. Yeah, good luck with that too. Now I
Speaker 1: might get a word. I might get a world series
Speaker 1: before I die. I like, how when thank you very
Speaker 1: happy holidays, Mary Christims, I like, when you know the
Speaker 1: Mets fans go, hey, we got a billionaire about the team,
Speaker 1: I go, pretty much, all these teams are owned by billionaires,
Speaker 1: and we think they're going to go on a spending spree.
Speaker 1: Like Steve Cohen, the billionaire who bought the message, is
Speaker 1: gonna go crazy. I don't think so. But I mean,
Speaker 1: unless you go, man, he's going to spend a ton
Speaker 1: of money. This is crazy. He's gonna be going crazy.
Speaker 1: You can be like a drunk soldier on a week
Speaker 1: or a sailor on a weekend. Here, how let's just
Speaker 1: drinks on me. I don't think that's going to happen here.
Speaker 1: Gus and Los Angeles, Hi, Gus, welcome back, Good morning,
Speaker 1: mister dph. Best and worst of the weekend is actually
Speaker 1: the same thing, which was the USC Oregon game. Best
Speaker 1: of it is that, you know what I'm I'm proud
Speaker 1: of my boys for, you know, for doing what they did,
Speaker 1: and you know, even though they lost. The Worst of
Speaker 1: it is the PAC twelve and the frauds at the
Speaker 1: NAA allowing USC to play three games in twelve days.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we were six and oh and everything
Speaker 1: like that. We were the favorites. But I don't care
Speaker 1: who you are. You play three games in twelve days,
Speaker 1: You're not winning that third game. And I just don't
Speaker 1: know how they allowed that to do it. They took
Speaker 1: Washington out at the last second. They put like, what
Speaker 1: is this like a UFC fight, We're just replacing people
Speaker 1: for the last second. Yes, yes that's the case, Gus.
Speaker 1: And thanks for the phone call. Absolutely, the NFL does
Speaker 1: this three games in twelve days. They've done this. But
Speaker 1: you're asking college kids. By the way, I hope that
Speaker 1: we learned from twenty twenty that these college kids are athletes.
Speaker 1: We love to do student athlete. They coined that back
Speaker 1: in the seventies. We bought into that nonsense. Everything that
Speaker 1: we've asked of these athletes this year. Please don't refer
Speaker 1: to them as student athletes. They're athletes. These football players,
Speaker 1: what we've asked them to do, they're athletes basketball too,
Speaker 1: Like I never know if a game is actually going
Speaker 1: to go off as scheduled in college basketball. And if
Speaker 1: you don't want to call him pro athletes, call him semipro.
Speaker 1: Because what we've asked these kids to do, it's been
Speaker 1: remarkable because all of these conferences. You know that you've
Speaker 1: got commissioners taken victory laps, and hey, look at what
Speaker 1: we did in the SEC. You know who did that?
Speaker 1: The kids did. They made all this happen, And who
Speaker 1: would have thought back in March April May that we'd
Speaker 1: be able to get these games in. It hasn't been pretty,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we get some good games here. But I
Speaker 1: hope in twenty twenty one we look back differently and
Speaker 1: remember what these football players, you know, these teams went
Speaker 1: through to get us to this point. All Right, more
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. What's the poll question, Nick Levin? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a Trevor Lawrence special. If you're Trevor Lawrence, where
Speaker 1: do you want to play next year, the Jets, the Jags, Clemson,
Speaker 1: or possibly hold out and it's actually sixty two said
Speaker 1: the Jags. Yeah, I don't you know what. Talking to
Speaker 1: him the other last week, it felt like he's from
Speaker 1: a small town and he's he didn't grow up an
Speaker 1: NFL fan, and maybe Jacksonville allows him to be normal ish,
Speaker 1: you know, the expectation level, the number of media members there.
Speaker 1: Trust me, he goes to the Jets, he better be
Speaker 1: great right away because there's no grace period there Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: It feels like going to ease in a little bit
Speaker 1: here the expectation level. But the Jets, Jets, you know,
Speaker 1: that's sky high. They want a winner, They want a
Speaker 1: winner now, and the expectation level would be extremely high. Yeah, Paully,
Speaker 1: I had the guys, the research guys look at this
Speaker 1: because is there any way the Jets at the Jets
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars finished with the exact same record. Is
Speaker 1: there anything with how the other teams play that changes
Speaker 1: the strength of schedule? Is there any chance, even if
Speaker 1: it's like five percent, that the Jets could do nothing
Speaker 1: and end up getting this pick back. We're looking into it.
Speaker 1: We're trying to find out how many scenarios there are? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: just from a math standpoint, so both teams lose their
Speaker 1: final two games, is there anything strength of schedule wise
Speaker 1: that would allow the Jets to leap for all the Jags,
Speaker 1: right we're looking to that right now, it's just a
Speaker 1: glimmer of hope. Pepeully. We'll talk Andy Staples, who's going
Speaker 1: to join us. He covers college football for the Athletic
Speaker 1: on kind of where are we going with the playoff?
Speaker 1: You know that are we expanding? Are we just gonna
Speaker 1: keep it as it is? And you're starting to hear
Speaker 1: some of these coaches who were all in on the
Speaker 1: BCS and didn't want to go to fourteen playoff who
Speaker 1: now understand that maybe you have to expand this. It's
Speaker 1: either expanded or just basically say to all these outliers
Speaker 1: who aren't in a Power of five conference, you're not
Speaker 1: going to play. You might end up ranked sixth in
Speaker 1: the country, You're not going to play for a national championship.
Speaker 1: At least tell them instead of holding out hope, hey,
Speaker 1: where are we ranked? And then you realize there is
Speaker 1: no way you're going to leap frog at Georgia or
Speaker 1: a Florida or A Texas, A and M doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what you do. Undefeated, blow everybody out, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And really that's what the Playoff Committee is telling you.
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Speaker 1: wondering if the Jets could somehow catch the Jaguars in
Speaker 1: strength of scheduled tiebreaker over the next two weeks. The
Speaker 1: Jags are guaranteed to finish with a weaker strength of schedule.
Speaker 1: The only way that Jets could get back to the
Speaker 1: number one pick is the Jags win a game. That's it.
Speaker 1: We were wondering if maybe who do the uh the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I know the Jets play the Patriots, Browns at Jets
Speaker 1: and Jets at Patriots for the Jets last year games,
Speaker 1: and it's Bears at Jags, Jags at Colts for their
Speaker 1: lasting Okay, all right, so if you're Trevor Lawrence, you
Speaker 1: probably are breathing a sigh of relief that maybe you
Speaker 1: get to go to Jacksonville instead of the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Andy Staples kind enough to join us son loan from
Speaker 1: the Athletic covering college football. Andy, any problems with the
Speaker 1: final four, not really, because it was going to be
Speaker 1: Notre Dame or A and M at four, and you
Speaker 1: could flip a coin on those two, and I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody other than the fan bases would have been
Speaker 1: upset if one or the other had been picked. Notre
Speaker 1: Dame makes sense. You can make the case, Hey, look
Speaker 1: they beat a team that's in the playoff Texas. A
Speaker 1: and M had a really good win against Florida, but
Speaker 1: they both got blown out by teams that are in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I mean it was kind of six
Speaker 1: to one, half dozen to the other. I just would
Speaker 1: like it to be a better system in general. You know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be four. Should have been eight
Speaker 1: all along, and every year they keep showing us why
Speaker 1: it should be eight. But you know what will happen, Andy,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get some of these teams that get in
Speaker 1: there and they get blown out because they face Alabama
Speaker 1: or Clemson in the opening round and then people, now
Speaker 1: I know I did I said that I said, Notre
Speaker 1: Dame gets blown out, or A and M gets blown out,
Speaker 1: we don't have a problem with that. But if boy,
Speaker 1: if Cincinnati goes in there and gets blown out, that's
Speaker 1: bad for college football. Yeah, it's crazy. Because so if
Speaker 1: you had an eight team and this is how they
Speaker 1: would do it, it would be your five Power five
Speaker 1: champs get in your highest rank group of five champ
Speaker 1: gets in, and then two at largest. So the games
Speaker 1: you'd have, you'd have Oregon at Alabama. Oh no, by
Speaker 1: the way, you get the balls out of there and
Speaker 1: you actually play them in campus college football stadiums where
Speaker 1: they're meant to be played. So you'd have Oregon at Alabama,
Speaker 1: which people will say, Okay, why is Organ in there?
Speaker 1: They don't deserve it, Okay, But from a business perspective,
Speaker 1: you kept that side of the country engaged the entire season.
Speaker 1: You gave stakes to the pactwelve championship game. And if
Speaker 1: Organ gets blown out, great, that's Alabama getting a reward
Speaker 1: for earning the number one seed. You got Sinse at Clemson.
Speaker 1: Will Clemson kill sinc Maybe, but at least we know.
Speaker 1: And then you have Oklahoma at Ohio State and Texas
Speaker 1: A at Notre Dame who is not watching those games.
Speaker 1: I know I agree, but I don't know what when
Speaker 1: do they expand because they have the contract with ESPN.
Speaker 1: Can they break that contract? I guess all contracts are
Speaker 1: meant to be broken. But you know, we're we're stuck
Speaker 1: with this through what twenty twenty three, twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: and it's it's the deal with the Bulls's that's the issue.
Speaker 1: Because ESPN would be fine. ESPN wants to make the
Speaker 1: conference is happy if the conferences say we want to
Speaker 1: do an eighteam playoff, ESPN will say, great, we'll pay
Speaker 1: you for that, because I mean, they're gonna wind up
Speaker 1: paying about the same amount of money anyway you slice it.
Speaker 1: So they don't care about the packaging. They just care
Speaker 1: about the products. So if you give them an opportunity
Speaker 1: to buy the product, they'll buy it. But it's the
Speaker 1: deal with the bulls because you know, you got these
Speaker 1: middlemen and the bulls that have been for years hijacking
Speaker 1: the way college football crowns a national champion. They were
Speaker 1: pretty useful back in the day. They're completely useless now.
Speaker 1: There is no need for them to be there. If
Speaker 1: the school, let's say the Rose Bowl. Here's here's a
Speaker 1: good example, because the Rose Bowl has always kind of
Speaker 1: been what was in the way. And if you went
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl right now and said, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a big ten and Pac twelve game in
Speaker 1: your stadium. We're gonna kick it off at two o'clock
Speaker 1: Eastern time on January first. It's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: playoff game. We're gonna play us on campus. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna give you as much money as we did before.
Speaker 1: We're ESPN's gonna give all that money to the conferences.
Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl would say, well, no, we don't want
Speaker 1: to do that, and they'll say, okay, that's great. We're
Speaker 1: gonna move that game to another stadium, and now you
Speaker 1: can have zero dollars and enjoy your monster truck pull
Speaker 1: on January first, and the Rose Bowl will be like, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take some dollars over zero dollars. That would be wonderful.
Speaker 1: And now we have the Rose Bowl in Dallas. Can
Speaker 1: we call it the Rose Bowl. I'm not clear on
Speaker 1: the legality of this. I don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a letter from somebody. I know it's
Speaker 1: um you know, we got caught up in this eye test.
Speaker 1: And I still don't know. I don't have great vision,
Speaker 1: but you know the eye test with Ohio State, I
Speaker 1: won him in there in the final four. But I
Speaker 1: can't sit there and go, boy, they passed the eye test.
Speaker 1: You know who passes the eye test. As strange as
Speaker 1: this is going to sound, Florida does. If Florida didn't
Speaker 1: lose to LSU, I mean that they went toe to
Speaker 1: toe with Alabama. If you said they were going to
Speaker 1: play again, I'd say absolutely, I'm all in. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that lost to lash Shoe. I wonder was there
Speaker 1: if if they didn't lose to alash Shoe, would there
Speaker 1: be a chance that Florida was in there instead of
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It would have been the twenty eighteen discussion
Speaker 1: all over again. And remember in twenty and eighteen, Alabama
Speaker 1: and Georgia play the really good SEC championship game where
Speaker 1: two it gets hurt. Jalen Hurts comes in and there
Speaker 1: was the big argument of do you put Georgia in
Speaker 1: at number four even though they just lost to Alabama.
Speaker 1: I think you would have had that same discussion had
Speaker 1: Florida not lost LSU. That the problem them for Florida is, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just showed you can go toe to toe with Alabama,
Speaker 1: but a week earlier you just showed you can completely
Speaker 1: lay an egg. So I mean that's the issue with
Speaker 1: that one. But yeah, you're that would have been the
Speaker 1: dominant conversation Sunday morning if Florida hadn't lost LSU is
Speaker 1: should Florida be number four? You're okay with Ohio State
Speaker 1: just because yeah, I am. And here's the thing. Everybody's like, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta punish them, punish the Big Ten because they
Speaker 1: only played six games. Yeah, but if you punish the
Speaker 1: Big Ten by punishing Ohio State, that makes no sense.
Speaker 1: The Big Ten played at all because Ohio State and
Speaker 1: Nebraska and Iowa and those people fought to get a
Speaker 1: season played in the Big Ten. Ohio State would have
Speaker 1: loved to have played ten games. They were on the
Speaker 1: side of the ACC and the SEC in the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve the entire time. So you can't punish them because
Speaker 1: their league did something stupid. So I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: And look, it was all gonna be eye test anyway,
Speaker 1: because we didn't have non conference games. We didn't get Remember,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get Ohio State organ in Week two.
Speaker 1: It would have been amazing. It would have been a
Speaker 1: great data point for us to tell, Okay, where's the
Speaker 1: Pack ten stack up against the Big Ten. We don't
Speaker 1: have any idea this year because we didn't have any
Speaker 1: non conference games and so the only only thing we
Speaker 1: can really say is the Sun Belt is better than
Speaker 1: the Big twelve because the Sun Belt went three and
Speaker 1: oh against the Big twelve. Army is not going to
Speaker 1: a bowl game. Their head coach is going to join
Speaker 1: its top of the hour. So to explain this to
Speaker 1: me that Army, what are they? Eight and two not
Speaker 1: going to a bull game? So basically they were going
Speaker 1: to the Independence Bowl and that was set up and
Speaker 1: the Indepence Bowl had to cancel its game because it
Speaker 1: can't get another team into the game. There have been
Speaker 1: too many opt outs and so the Indepence Bowl does
Speaker 1: not have an opponent for them and all the other
Speaker 1: bowls because they're contractually tied to two different conferences, had
Speaker 1: to fill through the different conferences that they're contractually tied to.
Speaker 1: And it's a great injustice because Army deserves to be there.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got a two win South Carolina playing
Speaker 1: in a bowl and Army's not playing in a bowl.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. And it's interesting because Army's former commandant is
Speaker 1: the president of South Carolina. You think you'd say, look,
Speaker 1: out of respect, we're gonna stay home and you guys
Speaker 1: go play in the bowl game. And I you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want anybody to have any issues with COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: But if somebody does, and it seems like given the
Speaker 1: number of teams that are playing in bulls, there's a
Speaker 1: chance somebody does, let's throw Army in there. If somebody
Speaker 1: has to back out left, then play in a bowl game.
Speaker 1: They've earned it. Yeah, And that's why I go back
Speaker 1: to this when people say, oh, you know, these schools
Speaker 1: that aren't in the Power five conferences, you know they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to go toe to toe with these
Speaker 1: schools that are. And I go, let me take you
Speaker 1: back to Army on the road against Oklahoma and Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and went into overtime. So it's one game and
Speaker 1: maybe there's a blowout, but you tell me, Oklahoma came
Speaker 1: out of that game going, man, we're so much better
Speaker 1: than Army. No. And Army took Michigan to the limit
Speaker 1: the following year. Look, Army's a good team. There's no
Speaker 1: reason Army shouldn't be in a Bull game. And this
Speaker 1: is another one of my issues with the bowl system
Speaker 1: in general. Again, you don't need these middlemen like ESPN
Speaker 1: owns and operates seventeen bowls. Now, you got the Myrtle
Speaker 1: Beach Bowl coming on later today Conway, South Carolina on
Speaker 1: the surf turf at Coastal Carolina. Those Bulls have no middlemen.
Speaker 1: ESPN puts it on the teams show up and you're
Speaker 1: good to go. And that's the way they could do
Speaker 1: it throughout college football if they wanted to, and just
Speaker 1: set up the best matchups you can instead of having
Speaker 1: well we got to have Big ten number three versus
Speaker 1: SEC Number four. Don't do that. If anything, this season
Speaker 1: taught us that things might be better if you schedule
Speaker 1: a little more on the fly. Anyway. I mean that
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina BYU game was set up on two days notice.
Speaker 1: It was probably the best game of the season. So
Speaker 1: why not have it where the leagues get together with
Speaker 1: ESPN and say we're going to create thirty nine postseason games,
Speaker 1: and but we're not going to set them up by
Speaker 1: conference or anything like that. We're just gonna match them
Speaker 1: up for the best possible matchups, the best television matchups,
Speaker 1: the most deserving teams get the best games. And that's
Speaker 1: how you do it. Everybody would be would be fine
Speaker 1: with that. Viewers would love it. And you don't give
Speaker 1: money to people who don't do anything. Andy, you're the product. Andy,
Speaker 1: You're making way too much. I know, I got to stop.
Speaker 1: You got to stop with this because you know what,
Speaker 1: It's just in three hundred and sixty five days, Andy,
Speaker 1: we're probably having this same conversation oh one, and probably
Speaker 1: more so and more frustrated because they will have gone
Speaker 1: back to all of the old ways of doing things.
Speaker 1: It will be we must schedule non conference games twelve
Speaker 1: years in advance, because that is what we do. We
Speaker 1: must do that. But you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: If this year taught us anything, you don't have to
Speaker 1: do any of the things that you thought you had
Speaker 1: to do. So think about it. If you're gonna, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna press the reset button now would be a
Speaker 1: great time. It's great to talk to you. As always.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your insights. Mary. Christmas, Happy holidays to Andy,
Speaker 1: and thank you for joining us. Thank you, Dan. That's
Speaker 1: Andy Staples. Andy works for the athletic Andy made too
Speaker 1: much sense. You know, he's got to stop that because
Speaker 1: the college football people are going to be angry at him.
Speaker 1: Stop making sense. There isn't that a Talking Heads song? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Stop making sense? Yes, mcclude. Yeah. I don't really get
Speaker 1: it what they're gonna do here? So are they going
Speaker 1: to eight? Dan? Are you pushing this like you did before?
Speaker 1: I just want to know how they get to the eight?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know the formula to get there. If
Speaker 1: it's the same people doing the same things, are they
Speaker 1: going to script this in a way that you're going
Speaker 1: to still keep some of these teams out of it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that and Andy brings up a great point.
Speaker 1: If ESPN owns all these bowl games, why doesn't ESPN
Speaker 1: say we're going to create a TV show with all
Speaker 1: of these games. Here's the best matchups, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it that. It's you know these are warranted that
Speaker 1: you know valid matchups here, and you're gonna do it
Speaker 1: where you don't have to worry about any of these
Speaker 1: middlemen who want their money to be able to keep
Speaker 1: the quote unquote integrity and pageantry of all these bowl games.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if ESPN wants to do it, they
Speaker 1: can do it. But you got to change the system.
Speaker 1: You got to be willing to change the system. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if they are, but you could, and
Speaker 1: that would be fascinating because ESPN they need these bowl games,
Speaker 1: they need the programming. And if you could create some
Speaker 1: kind of elimination, or even if you said, you know,
Speaker 1: you're going to be in a bowl game, but you're
Speaker 1: not going to be playing for a national championship, but
Speaker 1: you're going to be playing in a Marque Bowl game,
Speaker 1: or you're gonna be playing in a you know, your
Speaker 1: school's gonna make money. Whatever it is that you could
Speaker 1: do something like that at least be fair to these schools.
Speaker 1: But you can't go in there and say, hey, dream,
Speaker 1: dream of a big upset or playing for a championship.
Speaker 1: You're not even allowing them to dream. They do, but
Speaker 1: they should know better. Say that to Cincinnati today, Hey guys,
Speaker 1: dream and look, I've watched Cincinnati. I watched them from
Speaker 1: the start of the season to the game against Tulsa.
Speaker 1: They're very it's a very good team. Cincinnati has no pedigree.
Speaker 1: There's no grand tradition here. It's a basketball school that
Speaker 1: hurts Cincinnati, but Cincinnati very very good team offensively and defensively.
Speaker 1: It's a well coached team. You know, do they get
Speaker 1: blown out? Maybe they do, but so tod A and
Speaker 1: m Notre Dame. It happens. But that doesn't mean they
Speaker 1: shouldn't get the opportunity because or you're gonna get blown out.
Speaker 1: Well that's the case. How about we just have Alabama
Speaker 1: play Clemson. We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up.
Speaker 1: We'll give you our best and worst of the weekend,
Speaker 1: and the Army Head coach we'll join us coming up
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Speaker 1: you guys haven't heard of Keep to Leib do a
Speaker 1: game as an analyst, yet you're in for a treat.
Speaker 1: He did the Eagles and the Cardinals, the former defensive back.
Speaker 1: He's not polished, but he is entertaining, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll go, boy, it feels like I'm watching the
Speaker 1: game with that person in my living room. You know,
Speaker 1: there's certain analysts that make you feel like they're right
Speaker 1: there with you. Keep to Lee it feels like we're
Speaker 1: watching the game with him because he'll say some things.
Speaker 1: They're funny, grammatically not always correct, but I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: listening to him. Yeah, Paul Romo started out that way.
Speaker 1: I mean Ross Tucker. You listen to him. I know
Speaker 1: he's on college games, but he's non traditional. Talib is
Speaker 1: getting attention. This is different. This isn't Tony Romo, this
Speaker 1: isn't Ross Tucker, this isn't Chris collins Worth. This is different.
Speaker 1: And he had fun yesterday. It feels like he just
Speaker 1: gives you whatever is on his mind, and in the moment,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I really did, Tom in New York City. Tom,
Speaker 1: thanks for holding best and worst of the weekend. Oh
Speaker 1: best of the week baby, is my j Ets just
Speaker 1: Jess Jets getting to win, getting me win and sticking
Speaker 1: it to all my pro tankers out there in New
Speaker 1: York lanes. Okay, Um, by the way, McKay Beckton, thanks
Speaker 1: for the phone called Tom. He is the Jets offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and he had this to say after the win over
Speaker 1: the Rams. What do you say to the fans who
Speaker 1: wanted you, guys for that number one pick to keep
Speaker 1: on losing? What do you say to fans? He ain't
Speaker 1: really a fan if any wants to win, honestly, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that nicely possible, I mean that in a
Speaker 1: disrespectful way about I mean if you if you didn't,
Speaker 1: if you wanted us to lose, you're not a real fan. Honestly.
Speaker 1: We don't work too hard to just go out there
Speaker 1: just take a loss every week. I'm not gonna argue
Speaker 1: with him. As big as he is. Uh. He runs
Speaker 1: comparisons to Jonathan Ogden, a Hall of Famer, and they
Speaker 1: ran behind him yesterday, made some big plays behind him.
Speaker 1: Let's go around the room, best and worst of the
Speaker 1: weekend my new best friend Todd Fritz here in the
Speaker 1: man cave, Hi, Ton, are you doing great? Ton? Okay?
Speaker 1: Best and worst of the weekend? My best, I'm giving
Speaker 1: code best or Hi was state running back Trace Sermon
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, three interest ahead. Give the mock headlines on Trace? Okay, Yes, Sermon,
Speaker 1: Trey makes a Ohio State chew in for playoff like
Speaker 1: the horse shoe. Don't do that. Oh, don't explain it.
Speaker 1: Don't explain preach on. Tray provides Sermon in rushing Sermon
Speaker 1: runs wildcats over Trey hundred yards. I like the tree
Speaker 1: hundred yards? What the Buckeye? Can anyone tackle that guy? Eight?
Speaker 1: Is more than enough to beat Northwestern? Ya have a
Speaker 1: ryan day, Trey and standing packed? Is Fitzgerald head into NFL.
Speaker 1: That's my worst of the weekend? Wow, do you have
Speaker 1: a worst of the weekend? I was doing my co best.
Speaker 1: I'll go real fast, so Tray Sermon two touch on,
Speaker 1: three hund thirty one rushing yards rst Northwestern Alabama's Nagi
Speaker 1: Hiris five tds one hundred and sevent year in the
Speaker 1: ground two tds coupled with three receiving touchdowns. Worst Kentucky
Speaker 1: basketball loses seventy five sixty three to the tar Heels,
Speaker 1: first time a John Calipari coach. Wildcat's teams lost five
Speaker 1: in a row, one in five only when it gets
Speaker 1: more heads day school's worst starting almost a century nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty six. Mc lovin, I'm going two best. I want
Speaker 1: to start with Larry Fitzgerald and DeAndre Hopkins, both with
Speaker 1: great plays for the Cardinals. Larry Fitzgerald's awesome. And my
Speaker 1: second best is Andy Dalton is leading my Dallas Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, as a lifelong Eagles fan, the red rifle
Speaker 1: and you're on that bandwagon to Dan Patrick, Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: not an Eagles fan. Do you think they can do it? Yes? Uh?
Speaker 1: Setan O'Connor. My best of the weekend Yesterday you had
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant, Antonio Brown, Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, and end
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell all score touchdowns, which has Rich Eisen
Speaker 1: had put it that his twenty sixteen fantasy football team
Speaker 1: had a monster day. I gotta fun see it all
Speaker 1: those dudes getting the end zone thone um. And my
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend, the Buccaneers come back over the
Speaker 1: Falcons is just cruel. That is just Todd Brady. You
Speaker 1: can't do that. It's not do you think that He
Speaker 1: just said, Oh I got how many am I gonna
Speaker 1: spot him? I am about seventeen? Like before the game
Speaker 1: when they're warming up, they're like, you know it'd be fun.
Speaker 1: Hey Matt, I'm giving you seventeen this time. Let's see
Speaker 1: what you can do with it. Mean spirited PAULI beston worst. Dan,
Speaker 1: You're San Jose State Spartans quarterback Nick Starkill put up
Speaker 1: four fifty three and three touchdowns at San Jose State
Speaker 1: wins the Mountain West Championship over Boise and then Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bill Bull Sorry Dan, Boise the Ball State Cardinal thirty
Speaker 1: eight twenty eight to win the MAC. I'm only giving
Speaker 1: this one a shout out because Ball State wide receiver
Speaker 1: Johines Tyler ninety one yards in a touchdown. His name
Speaker 1: is Johines, like yo apostrophe Hines. Anyway, and get that
Speaker 1: on the air. I'm getting on the air. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: watched that game, and uh, you know, they were they
Speaker 1: were giving all the stars and then they went to
Speaker 1: a like a wide receiver warming up and he said
Speaker 1: his name is Yo Yo Yo Hinz and I went,
Speaker 1: what what yo? Hines? What's up Johines? Tyler? They played well.
Speaker 1: He's a good he's a good wide receiver. Her all right?
Speaker 1: Final hour coming up. We'll check in with Army. Why
Speaker 1: is Army not playing in a bowl game? They're eight
Speaker 1: and two. We'll talk to their coach M eight seven
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Speaker 1: thoughts about that season tipping off on Wednesday. We're back
Speaker 1: after this final hour