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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost same

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Speaker 1: As podcast. Today I have a special guest host, Ari

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Speaker 1: lion Dike is here. Welcome him. Everyone. Hello, Ben is traveling,

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Speaker 1: so Ari's filling in and we're going to talk all

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Speaker 1: about the episode and then we have some special guests on.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a little bit. Hey, Ari,

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Speaker 1: how's life right now? You had a whole month? Was

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Speaker 1: it a whole month in Hawaii? Yes? I was in

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Speaker 1: Hawaii for a month. It was not all that, but

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Speaker 1: I don't have to say it was pretty awesome. Um.

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Speaker 1: First off, thank you guys for having me. I feel

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Speaker 1: very honored. So Ben, wherever you are, thank you, brother.

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Speaker 1: This is really cool to be on with you, and

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Speaker 1: I'd love I can't wait to chat about the episode. Actually,

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Speaker 1: full disclosure, this is the first episode I've watched in

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Speaker 1: two years. What I thought you guys used to do,

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Speaker 1: like YouTube recaps two seasons to see two seasons? Ye?

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Speaker 1: So since um your season? Okay, so yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while. So you didn't watch Clarentatious season? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: watched the first part of Claire's season. Did not watch

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Speaker 1: season is that because you felt like you you know

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Speaker 1: Claire better. No, I just got a bunch of kids,

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Speaker 1: and I got a lot of kids, not a lot

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Speaker 1: of time. That's awesome. So I guess if I ask

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Speaker 1: you how you feel about Katie Thurston and Blake Boyn's breakup,

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Speaker 1: you don't have much to say, zero to say. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch her season. Um I feel bad that

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Speaker 1: they broke up. You know, that's not not what we

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Speaker 1: want to see out of an ending. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't watch our season, so I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: input there. Well, I guess I have to give my

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Speaker 1: two cents on it. Um. Ben did talk about it

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Speaker 1: briefly in yesterday's mini episode, and I guess, like I guess,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see them going the long haul. I mean,

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Speaker 1: as horrible as that is to say, like there was

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Speaker 1: just like something missing a lot with them either on

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Speaker 1: after the final rows during the proposal, it just seemed

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Speaker 1: like he was a little bit hesitant to propose. I

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Speaker 1: don't know there was something missing there, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: think they would break up this fast, Like that's only

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Speaker 1: like four months as boyfriend and girlfriend or fiance as

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Speaker 1: I suppose. Yeah, I mean that is quick. Um, you

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Speaker 1: think they would have like hunging out a little bit

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Speaker 1: to do I don't know, some appearances together and have

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Speaker 1: some fun travel. I mean that beginning stage is just

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Speaker 1: a whirlwind. So it's kind of they must have been

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Speaker 1: pretty incompatible, I know. And to think back on the

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Speaker 1: last few episodes and the fact that Greg was seemingly

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Speaker 1: going to be her final pick, and I just wonder

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Speaker 1: if watching that back in the drama between the two

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Speaker 1: of them just dented something for Blake and just made

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Speaker 1: him never be able to think about her, never be

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Speaker 1: able to think of himself as her number one pick, honestly.

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Speaker 1: And that is a thing like when you watch the

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Speaker 1: season back with your fiance, it is really really tough,

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Speaker 1: Like you and I are like the last thing like

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Speaker 1: pick me a lot Lauren at the end, I know

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Speaker 1: I didn't. You can't get over it. So that's probably

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Speaker 1: wasn't That probably wasn't their biggest issue. I remember. I

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Speaker 1: think Jordan and Jojo like didn't watch their season until

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Speaker 1: years later. And I feel like that is a good

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Speaker 1: piece of advice. Probably maybe if you're the last one

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Speaker 1: standing and you have the ring. I just don't watch,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't do it. Don't do it. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: then in other Bachelor news, Oh my gosh, Chris Harrison

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Speaker 1: and Laurence Zema got engaged. Now this is something I

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Speaker 1: did see coming. I actually thought that they like got

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Speaker 1: engaged in April. If you remember that picture, she was

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Speaker 1: so here it is. I'm so happy for them. I

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Speaker 1: to see all that love and support from everyone on

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Speaker 1: the HD Chief podcast that we did with Gap Home,

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Speaker 1: hadn't heard from any real letor and it was that

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a house that we imagine ourselves

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Speaker 1: under the age of three? Yeah, and like what's what's

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Speaker 1: but it's tough for sure. Okay, so when we travel

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Speaker 1: so like there was no way to this. Okay't blogging

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Speaker 1: it's um. Yeah, there's like a bunch of little tips.

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Speaker 1: Because that's a great headline. Okay, um, yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think as a couple that three's enough. I think

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Speaker 1: I can't be having kids and any later than this

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Speaker 1: So I think I think three is okay. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Hi Ashley, how are you. I'm so good. How are you?

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Speaker 1: know if this is going to be if you're like

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00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: the kind of person for me, She kind of gives

427
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: him a slide. But the big standout towards the night

428
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: portion was Brendan, who he's like Mr suave right, like

429
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: very smooth. Can't spell that he smooth? Yes, he doesn't

430
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: have like a lot to say and like the flirty lines.

431
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: I can't say how I really know the guy, but

432
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: he um, he's he's um wooing her. Yeah, you could

433
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: tell that she was feeling him. One thing I noticed

434
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: throughout the episode which I picked up on her, she's

435
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: a very she leans in during all the conversations, which

436
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: is like very inviting for men. You know, she's not

437
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: sitting back or sitting straight or proper. She's like very engaged. Yes,

438
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: I felt like she could kiss the guys at any moment,

439
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: like they had the invitation. Yes. I was like, is

440
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: she like leaning in and You're like no, I think

441
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: she's just talking that way. And then I was like

442
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: I felt like she wanted to kiss everybody there. Me too,

443
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: Me too. Rick with somebody who I was actually surprised

444
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: that she was down to kiss. He showed up last

445
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: week in a room service tray and his face was

446
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: like in a salad plate. You probably you may have

447
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: seen that. No, so, like, I don't know that his

448
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: entrance is night one was like the sexiest thing to her.

449
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: But then they played mad libs and then she went

450
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: in for it or he went in for it, and

451
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: she was cool with it. Yeah, I mean kudos, you know.

452
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it as a former kissing bandit.

453
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: I like it. There's one guy who we didn't see

454
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: a lot of in this group date who I think

455
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: might have like an ego thing, like he thinks he

456
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: should have been seen a lot during the group day.

457
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: And that was Romeo. He he um said something about

458
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: having his his degree from Harvard and mathematics. I think

459
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: that guy just I think he uh, he just thinks

460
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: that he's the cats meout. I like. I like the

461
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: contestants that just kind of fly underder the radar, that

462
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: are like confident but don't like make too many waves.

463
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Those are usually the ones that make it far, you know,

464
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: just quietly confident. No, I agree with you. There there

465
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: is a couple of guys that I just that they

466
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: they seem to really not want to involve themselves in drama,

467
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: as if they've actually watched the show before. Like these

468
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: guys are like, I'm not going to spend my time,

469
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: uh talking about that? Are confronting so and so like

470
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm here for Michelle. I'm like, oh, these guys know

471
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: what they're doing this season? Yeah, well, I mean you

472
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: watch enough of it you kind of yeah. Alright. So

473
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: the first one on one is with Jamie, and Jamie

474
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: definitely made an impression on night one. Jamie's whole story

475
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: arc during this episode was kind of fascinating to me.

476
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: It kind of made the episode. So when he first

477
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: gets the one on one date card, everybody starts kind

478
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: of like hating on him. They put the scary music

479
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: behind him because he says something like I've got to

480
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: figure out whether Michelle is compatible for me, whether she

481
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: could do my lifestyle. And the eyes are like, what

482
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: why would you ever question such a thing? You should

483
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: be worshiping her? And I was like, hey, I may

484
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: not be getting the greatest vibes from him, and maybe

485
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm susceptible to the music. I try not to be

486
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: but this is a fine thing to contemplate and a

487
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: fine thing for you to go into a day trying

488
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: to figure out. That's probably healthy. It's healthy to take

489
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: that way too. That's how you would think in a

490
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: regular situation. So for him to have those questions, I

491
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: think it also would lead to a more normal conversation

492
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: between two people. You know, you don't want to put

493
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: someone on a crazy pedestal and then try to live

494
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: up to them. You want to see if you're a match. Yeah,

495
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: it's a good approach. I was like, this guy is

496
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: just being normal. I like it. Then they go on

497
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: the day to Joshua Tree. They climb. They climb. That

498
00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: looks hard, That looks like a very tough physical date. Yeah,

499
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: look cool. Yeah, Michelle is in such good shape and

500
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: she's so freaking pretty and I could like just like

501
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: look at her all day. But that's a different note.

502
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: And they get to the top and they're really feeling.

503
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: They're feeling each other. They Jamie says, like doing things

504
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: or what relationships are all about. He's helping her climb,

505
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: he's being a good guid um. Michelle just like likes

506
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: the way that he's like handling the date. Like as

507
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: a as a great support system. Yeah, anything else to say.

508
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: Normally I have to be the one to to I

509
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: don't know, boost lead the date. Yea, he took lead

510
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: and took the lead on it, so yeah, that's cool. Yeah,

511
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: so I'm like, okay, okay, they like each other. And

512
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: then I continue to feel the chemistry over dinner and

513
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: even though like, Okay, I don't know what it is

514
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: about him, but I like have some red flags in

515
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: like weird feelings, do you Yeah, like I did at

516
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: that point, and I was like, why am I feeling this?

517
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: He's not really letting anything on to warrant it. Maybe

518
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: just because he dropped like a huge bomb on his

519
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: back story and it was like no, but it was

520
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: before the conversation. Don't you think maybe he's like had

521
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: that in the back of his mind, Like so he

522
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: like to you the viewer, maybe he thought he was

523
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: withholding something he was just like scared to like reveal

524
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, what makes him him and his past could

525
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: be could be okay. So I don't know, I remember,

526
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember when I was a contestant.

527
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that first date, you know, producers are like, Okay,

528
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell, you know, tell him your whole life

529
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: story because this could be the last time you have

530
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: dinner with her, and and that whole build up is

531
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: a kind of tense, you know. I don't know, I

532
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: didn't get that. Okay, well that's good. No, I like

533
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: like different perspectives, especially with him in his storyline right now. Okay,

534
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, they sit down and they talk about how

535
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: she just had the best upbringing and like great relationship

536
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: role models, and then he says that he had the

537
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: complete opposite. You know, his dad wasn't exactly in the picture,

538
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: and his mom was so hands on, so great until

539
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: about twelve or thirteen, when she kind of got hit

540
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: by a mental health issues and eventually lad for him

541
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: to like not always be at school, him and his

542
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: sister like trading off having to take care of the

543
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: mom and be home like basically on suicide Watch. Turns

544
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: out she ends up committing suicide when he's twenty four.

545
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: It's just like the most heartbreaking story, Like I just

546
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: was very like goes on a plane and just like

547
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: my hands are on my head, just like, oh my gosh,

548
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: this poor guy was terrible, so sad, so sad, it's

549
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: just really like, I don't know, it's like where do

550
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: you go after that conversation? Go home and cry? You

551
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I don't know, Like it kind

552
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: of ended. It was like a very somber I mean,

553
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: obviously it's somber, but it was almost too heavy. Like

554
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: I know, there's always always like heavy backstories and you

555
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: want to spill your guts on that first day. But

556
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, I could have waited a little longer

557
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: for that conversation. That was a heavy one. Michelle says

558
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: that she was proud of what he's come through and

559
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: to carry all that weight as a young person, and

560
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: she's amazed about how he's been able to navigate through

561
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: all that. She says she's beyond impressed, and he says

562
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: that he loves that. She didn't say like I'm sorry,

563
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: but like sees how it impacted the man that he became. Uh.

564
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: But then after that, we we go into they do pivot.

565
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: They get out of that tragedy. Wait, what was the

566
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: more tragedy? The next step The next is a group day,

567
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: but the leading is talking about how the coach. Yeah,

568
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: so now you're going from one sad thing I was

569
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: so sad in the middle of the episode because just

570
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: one from one sad thing to another sad thing. Yeah,

571
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: eat up to the group date, and I was interested

572
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: at the fact that they let him be on the

573
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: phone with his mom. How do you think that went down?

574
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: Because one, of course, the guys don't have phones, which

575
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: means that the mom would have had to reach out

576
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: to a producer. And did you ever give your parents

577
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: or family member producer info before leaving? Yes, I did too,

578
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: And I remember I called my dad on his birthday

579
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: that too. Little things like that, but not a lot

580
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: of communication, very limited, always with the producer next to me.

581
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like if there's a dapt to someone

582
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: who's very close to you, I feel like that's kind

583
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: of like we gotta let them know, you know. Yeah,

584
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Yeah, I could see how they how

585
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: they you know, okay, gave him the phone to be

586
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: able to talk to his mom about that. Yeah, that

587
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: was that we're talking about Joe, and Joe is the

588
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: guy that Michelle had d m about a year or

589
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: so ago because they both were very involved in the

590
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: basketball community in Minnesota. And then of course it leads

591
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: into a basketball date. I mean how did that even?

592
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: How did that even happen? Because these dates are planned

593
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: in advance. I mean, there are no coincidences in back

594
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: to the World. I'd feel like they were like, we

595
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: gotta do a basketball date, right, They're like, let's make

596
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: a court. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist, but they're like,

597
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: we gotta get a basketball date, so now we can

598
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: have this tie in amount. So now we get to

599
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: the basketball court and we see Joe and Michelle hitting

600
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: it off immensely on like the warmups. Right, It's like

601
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: nobody else is in the room because they just want

602
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: to talk about Minnesota, ask of all, and they just

603
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: want to play one on one. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah.

604
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: I feel like the date was I don't know. Like

605
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I said before, I'm a little bit of a conspiracy

606
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, and I'm like, I feel like they just

607
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: put that together last minute. I don't know. It was

608
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: all for Joe, Like even if the coach didn't pass

609
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: away that week, they wanted Joe to be the star

610
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: of the group date, and I wanted Joe to be

611
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: the star of the group day. So it worked out.

612
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: You know, why why did you want to start? Because

613
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: because he was having a bad, sad time. Why not,

614
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, if he's a good person, and you know,

615
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that's it, just as a nice little put

616
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: a little bow on that whole little group date, you know.

617
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: And you didn't even know that the two of them

618
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: d m and then he ghosted her. No, I didn't

619
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: know that I might formulate it. I would have formulated

620
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: in a different opinion at that point, because what would well,

621
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't be so stoked that he you know

622
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: what I mean that he got the time and got

623
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: the basketball day and then got the group date Rose. Yeah,

624
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I see both sides. I think it's

625
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: I think that he has a couple of little red

626
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: flags there. But I also feel like she likes him

627
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: too much for like us to say she shouldn't go

628
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: with her feelings. There's something like kind of desk in there.

629
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something in there. Yeah, there's something

630
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: something there, all right. So they play you know, group

631
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: on group basketball Blue team verse red team, and the

632
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: red team ends up losing even though Joe is on

633
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: that team. The blue team wins, and so therefore they

634
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: get to go to the after party. But of course,

635
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: because Joe must be the star of the group date.

636
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: There's a little exception. He's m v P of the

637
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: day and the m v P gets to go to

638
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: the nighttime portion of the date. And I don't think

639
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: in real life, I don't think the m v P

640
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: has ever. Yeah, I know that's what the guys are

641
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: pointing out. That guys are like, this doesn't add up,

642
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: Like this doesn't add up. So Joe and Michelle have

643
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: their little romantic sit down one on one time, and

644
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: they talked about how basketball was their first love, and

645
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Joe ends up talking about how we found out that

646
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: day that his coach had passed away, and you know,

647
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: he says that I feel like you understand this in

648
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: a way that a lot of people wouldn't, And she

649
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: does understand that the um impact that a coach can

650
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: have on a player's life, like on and off the

651
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: court had Did you ever have a coach like that?

652
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: Do you replace some with with Nascar? Yeah? There anything

653
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: you don't really have. I mean no, because I didn't

654
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: really play too many like ball and stick sports, But

655
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I can see how a coach, especially many young persons life,

656
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: can be hugely inspirational and obviously, like a father figure

657
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: in a way. Um, so I could see that, but no,

658
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I haven't had that experienced myself. Well, you feel the tension,

659
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: but like the sexual tension between them. They end up kissing, uh,

660
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: and then you just kind of know that he's definitely

661
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: going to be getting this group date. The other guys

662
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: that are worth mentioning about the group date is probably Nate,

663
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: who got the first impression rose last week. Uh, they

664
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: just kind of have it. He says that he's happy

665
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: that he's there and that opposite attract since he's bad

666
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: at basketball. Uh. And he says that he feels like

667
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: not a lot of the other guys have the connection

668
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: that him and Michelle have. He thinks he's getting the rose,

669
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: but we all know you don't get the first impression

670
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: rose and then go on to get the next group

671
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: date rose. And he felt a little slighted too when

672
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: they panned over to him his He was like kind

673
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: of surprised. Yeah, yeah, I love looking at the other

674
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: guy's faces when they don't get the rose and they

675
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: expected to. Yeah, I do hate how I don't know

676
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: if she did this, but there's like when you're the bachelor,

677
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: or you know you're kind of asked to go around

678
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: the room and say like, actually, you're great to pay

679
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: you know. But you know, but if you've never been

680
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: on a group date, the first person you talked to,

681
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: they think they're going to get it. So maybe she

682
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: was like, you know, Nate, I really feel connection with you.

683
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: You did great today, and then she went around the room.

684
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Because that's like one of

685
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: those things to get those awkward reactions on camera now

686
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: looking back like hindsight, you know, and then they just

687
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of how they want. But it's always the reactions

688
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: are always the best. But that sort of leads in

689
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: and that's why you get those re actions too. Sometimes.

690
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: I never thought of it like that, but that's so true.

691
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: You know. If you're I've never been on a group date,

692
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: you don't know you think the first person I'm gonna

693
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: talk to you is gonna get it? You know. Yeah.

694
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: The only other guy I think to talk about during

695
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: this group date Rose is possibly Martin. Martin is the

696
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: guy with the bleach blonde hair. You give anything to

697
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: say about him. He's got awesome hair, Like I dyed

698
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: my hair during COVID. You know, we're still kind of

699
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: in COVID. Maybe I'll die again. But I just thought

700
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: like his hair was like the perfect amount of bleach

701
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: in there. The haircut was on was fire. He's got

702
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: a great barber, that guy. That's all I really have

703
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: to say that. I think I dig his style. Yeah,

704
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: he's kind of like the token commentator, like he'll be

705
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: around to like say things, but there won't be any

706
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: intense chemistry. All right, guys, we're gonna take a quick

707
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: break and we will be back with all the thoughts

708
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: on the row ceremony and cocktail party where all the

709
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: drama went down. Alright, So cocktail party, ari, this is

710
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: when it was dramatic because we see Jamie quickly become

711
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: I won't say a villain, but maybe have a villainous streak.

712
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: He he hears that Joe had had prior communication with Michelle.

713
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: He also heard, in which we're not super sure that

714
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: it's related, that she was seen with a basketball player

715
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: around Minnesota, and I thought, my, like, my my interpretation

716
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: of that was that they were the same person at first,

717
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: that Joe and this basketball player would have been the

718
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: same person, and that he was thinking like, oh, maybe

719
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't just d m NG. Maybe like they actually

720
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: had a relationship before she got on the show, and

721
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: this guy is like totally advanced in this process. But

722
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: he also says he goes to the guys, he's I

723
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: want to know if anybody has like a leg up here,

724
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: and then he goes in tells Michelle, I don't care

725
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: if anybody else's like that's a leg. But yeah, he's like,

726
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: because I feel secure in our relationship. But the other

727
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: guys they want to know. I'm like, oh, okay, Jamie,

728
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: um interesting, Yeah, So how do you know? How do

729
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: they know that Joe has talked to her through Instagram before?

730
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: How do they know that? How do the guys? How

731
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: does anyone know that? How did you know it? Okay, Well,

732
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: they talked about that. So during the intro, during Joe's intro,

733
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: she turned, he walks away, and she goes, is your

734
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: name Joe? And he says yeah. And then later in

735
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: the episode, she reveals to like the audience and she

736
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: and Joe have a conversation about how she reached out

737
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: to him on Instagram and they had a very brief

738
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: back and forth, like she said, it's like two messages before.

739
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: He just didn't really say anything else, but because of

740
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, there their involvement in basketball in Minnesota. Like

741
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: she'd always kind of like known of him, and she

742
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: was like a little intrigue, which is why she reached out. Ah, yeah,

743
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: she's banger alled over him a little bit. A little bit.

744
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: He did reply, but then he gave a lame excuse

745
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: an episode one about why he like didn't make more

746
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: of an effort there. He said he kind of blamed

747
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: He kind of blamed like the George Floyd movement and

748
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: just living really close to the epicenter and just feeling

749
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: all these emotions that he couldn't really sort out. And

750
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: she was like, if you didn't think that anybody would

751
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: didn't don't you think that that's something that I would understand? Like,

752
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: that's just kind of that's just like not an excuse

753
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, that's what I mean. Red flags with him.

754
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: I think like that because she's like, you're just you're

755
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna ghost me, but you're not gonna like be been

756
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: sure enough to have a conversation about that anyway. Um, Okay,

757
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: So then during this conversation between Jamie and Michelle, she says,

758
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: is it to the point where these guys aren't respecting me,

759
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: and then he said, yes, it's getting there. But really

760
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: it was only like two or three guys that kind

761
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: of knew that there was something going on with Joe.

762
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: It was not the mass population of men. And then

763
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: when and then she gets super emotional about this, leaves

764
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: the cocktail party, it comes back, says to the guys,

765
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to clarify what happened between

766
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: me and Joe. It was like literally two d ms.

767
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: We've never met in real life. I've never met any

768
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: of these men in real life, like, never communicated with them,

769
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: like voice to voice or anything like that. And if

770
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: any of you are like doubting me, um, and you're

771
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: then like, I'm not cool with that and then walks away,

772
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: and then all the guys are like, um, what just

773
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: happened there? First off? Yeah, first off, had no idea anything,

774
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: but had prior happened with Joe. And secondly, who's talking

775
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: about this? Who's doubting her? Who's disrespecting her? And all

776
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the guys start asking getting like who was that? Who

777
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: would have possibly said that to her? And Jamie does

778
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: not face up. And what I found interesting about this

779
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: is that normally, and like I only I don't want

780
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: it to come out wrong, but normally somebody who has

781
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: a sad story is relatively protected by the show for

782
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: a little while. But with this, we hear a sad story,

783
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: we get emotionally invested into Jamie for a while, and

784
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, isn't that? Is that? That was?

785
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: I found that a fascinating component of this episode. Maybe

786
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: it's because he isn't there for very long, so it's

787
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: interesting for us right now. But then maybe in two

788
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: weeks will be like, you know, he's gone anywhere. That

789
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: could be it, or he could linger for a long

790
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: time and she never she never sees anything bad about him.

791
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: All right, well then, uh, they skipped the rest of

792
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: the cocktail party. There's one thing I do need to

793
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: talk about, though, and that was the hilarious moment between

794
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: her and is it rod I don't know no names. Okay,

795
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: we're still trying to figure out the names. I feel

796
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: like it's like episode four, you're exactly what was that

797
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: guy's name? Again, I'm not investing myself into learning your

798
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: name until I know you're sticking around for a while.

799
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: It was Rodney, and he was a guy Ari, which

800
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: last week showed up and he said he was a

801
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Granny Smith apple, but he was wearing a red apple costume,

802
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: and she was just like, this is not okay. You

803
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: obviously don't know you're the differences between apples, and there's

804
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: a huge difference between apples. I think I may have

805
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: said on the podcast last week, but like, I find

806
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: Macintosh should be absolutely repulsive. And I grew up with

807
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: my mom only buying McIntosh apple, so I therefore thought

808
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: I didn't like apples, but I do. I just hate Macintosh. Yeah,

809
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: how do you know? How do you not know your

810
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: apples if you show up to the Bachelorette as an apple?

811
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: I know? Wait, what's your favorite apple? Uh? The one

812
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: that's mixed between red and green? FIGI is good? Gala's

813
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: gala A is good. I like Honey, chrisp Honey Christmas definitely. Yeah. Yeah,

814
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: I think you're going to go in the fridge and

815
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: get one right after this. Anything but Granny Smith and

816
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Macintosh in the spectrum Okay, okay, yeah, So anyway, what

817
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: she does is hilarious because she has some apples cut up.

818
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: She's feeding him apples with the blindfold on, and she

819
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: also like feeds him pizza and he has no idea

820
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: what's in his mouth. The guy like things that it's lasagna.

821
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: He thinks that like the green apples a red apple,

822
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: and the red apples a green apple, and like it's

823
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: just a hilarious moment. I just I was laughing out

824
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: loud on a plane and I loved it. Backstory, this

825
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: guy just had COVID two weeks ago. Can't taste anything

826
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: now that would make sense. Alright, Well, at the end

827
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: of the so we'll get to the rose ceremony because

828
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: the rest of it was canceled and she sends home

829
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Daniel p j Alec And I mean, we didn't know

830
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: any of them so deep. Yeah, so okay, the guys

831
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: that we had in question, like the pizentrepreneurs. No, he's

832
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: stuck around because of course he did, because he's drama. Yeah, exactly.

833
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: So we all have the people that we are invested in,

834
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: either in a you know, good or bad way. They're

835
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: still here, so we'll have to wait and see. Yeah.

836
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: I feel like she did an amazing job the entire episode.

837
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: She's a great bapstorress. She's such a good bachelorette. The

838
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: ratings are kind of low right now, and I want

839
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: them not to be for her. I think she deserves

840
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: people to see how well she handles this role. Do

841
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: you feel like it's because she's gone second, because there

842
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: is Katie and then Michelle. Yeah. Do you think it's

843
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: just too much Bachelor? Yes? Yes, yes they do. And

844
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: I really wish that she would have had Katie spot.

845
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: I really do, but you know, what are we gonna do?

846
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: But I do think a lot of its Bachelor fatigue.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of seasons in a row. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: episode of Scene with Chris Harrison on hosting, and I

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Speaker 1: felt like they also did a great job. Tastia is awesome. UM,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I think it's it's worth the watch.

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Speaker 1: I will watch the next episode and then I will

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Speaker 1: give you my thoughts. I gotta watch the least two

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Speaker 1: to pick somebody into root for that right now, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a mixed bag. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: Before we sign off, I gotta give you the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: bracket rule of the week. Ready for it? Here it

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Speaker 1: is Batch Bracket Rule of the week is plus ten

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Speaker 1: points if a contestant raises a glass and initiates a

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Speaker 1: toast or says cheers. All right well, Ari lined Ike,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. It's always

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Speaker 1: great to have you on here. You have to follow

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Speaker 1: my lead and our sign off. Okay, it's okay, it's

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Speaker 1: a little weird, but you've been here before, so you

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Speaker 1: maybe get it. All right. Well, thank you everybody for listening.

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Speaker 1: it's in your heart. Until next time, I've been, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I'm a lion dyke. You've been for some reason, that's

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Speaker 1: what you've been, Ari, lion dyke. I've been. Yeah. We

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