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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Thursday, June twenty seventh. I'm back, baby.

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Speaker 2: Feels good to be back in the saddle. Not only

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Speaker 2: is the podcast back, but I'm hosting The Herd today

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Speaker 2: and on Friday. Should be fun and exciting. It was

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Speaker 2: a nice couple days off quote unquote off my daughter

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Speaker 2: had her volleyball Nationals in Phoenix, Arizona. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how people live there. Oh my gosh. It was like

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen degrees every day. And I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, Jason, it's a dry heat. Stop complaining, It's

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Speaker 2: not a dry heat, folks. Literally you you come out

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Speaker 2: of the hotel and it's like a wall of heat.

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Speaker 2: It's like when you open the oven, you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're like make it something and you get hit with that.

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Speaker 2: That's what it feels like walking around Phoenix, and I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I know the taxes are way better here, but are

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Speaker 2: you kidding me? You like, I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: go outside and play pickleball? I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 2: you could do it at night. How do you walk

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Speaker 2: your Dog Phoenix, Arizona. Not for me. Volleyball Nationals was fun,

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Speaker 2: good hangs. Big NBA movement went down while I was there.

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Speaker 2: The mkhail Bridges trade nets to Nick's Holy Cow. Will

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Speaker 2: dive right into that. I'm gonna talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about the NBA draft. Obviously a lot of things happened.

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Speaker 2: It's weird and tough to follow the draft now. I

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Speaker 2: think because of what the new CBA did and the

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Speaker 2: second Aprin and all this movement, it just it's made

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Speaker 2: the draft weird and I got a sort of anti

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Speaker 2: climactic and a lot of people don't know these dudes.

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Speaker 2: There were four guys drafted from France in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Four.

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Speaker 2: I think I heard Richard Jefferson joke on the on

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Speaker 2: the telecast that basically the half of the roster from

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Speaker 2: the France U nineteen national team was taken in the

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Speaker 2: first round. And I went back and looked, and of

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Speaker 2: course in the nineties, good luck fighting anybody taken from France.

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Speaker 2: So just haven't been a lot. I mean, the league

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Speaker 2: is just getting so international and that's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: I had some people tweeting at me, Oh, that's so

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Speaker 2: bad for the league. Just stop it. It's not bad

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Speaker 2: for the league. Better basketball players are somehow bad. Nicola

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Speaker 2: Jokic steamrolling everybody, winning awards galore, winning a time, that's

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Speaker 2: bad for the league. Luka Doncic becoming one of the

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Speaker 2: best players in the league, like twenty five, that's bad

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Speaker 2: for the league. He's did more twenty five twenty six

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Speaker 2: than Michael Jordan had done. Let's settle down with bad

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Speaker 2: for the league. That being said, it's a bit of

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Speaker 2: a tough watch when you've got two guys going one

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Speaker 2: two and few people have seen them play, or really

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Speaker 2: it's tough for like ESPN to talk about them. But

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the Michel Bridges trade because this

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Speaker 2: is a massive trade for the NIXT I think it

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Speaker 2: instantly puts them a notch and I'm talking a hair

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Speaker 2: below the Boston Celtics. Yes, the Celtics have better high

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Speaker 2: end talent with Tatum and Brown, but folks, if you

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Speaker 2: are not seeing what's happening around the league right now,

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Speaker 2: this Bridge's trade certainly signifies that we are in an

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Speaker 2: analytics era, and the analytics have won. I said this

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Speaker 2: when the Celtics were steamrolling Dallas that Celtics title was

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Speaker 2: a victory for analytics. We've now found it's a three

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Speaker 2: and layup league. That's the new NBA. We've been trending

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Speaker 2: this way for a while now. I know teams have

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Speaker 2: been coming, but now it's just excessive. I think there

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Speaker 2: was a game I'm almost certain whether Celtics took six

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Speaker 2: shots that were not threes or in the paint, six

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Speaker 2: in the entire game. And we're probably gonna have a

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Speaker 2: game soon in a high level playoff game where there's

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Speaker 2: no mid range shots taken. It's bound to happen soon

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Speaker 2: or later. The bridges move. Why, I love it. And

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Speaker 2: I know everybody's like, wait a minute. Five first round picks,

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Speaker 2: are they crazy? Hold up? Hold up? Okay, number one

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Speaker 2: not or all first round picks are created equal. The

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Speaker 2: Knicks gave up four of their own first round picks.

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna even sniff a top five pick. Even

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Speaker 2: to not take on more salary. They're actually saving money,

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Speaker 2: and all signs point to Hartenstein wanting to stay in

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Speaker 2: New York. And by the way, in this Bridge's trade,

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Speaker 2: they did not give up Julius Randall, who is a

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Speaker 2: big trade chip. So they still have Randall who they

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, they picked up five second

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Speaker 2: nail one who's gonna become I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying one's gonna become Yannis or one's gonna become Yokich.

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Speaker 2: Giannis was a lottery pick. Yokich was a second round

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Speaker 2: not one that's gonna become Draymond. But I can guarantee

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Speaker 2: you one of those five you got a good chance

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Speaker 2: at finding an All Store or a All Star level player.

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Speaker 2: And I say all Star level because Bridges, who's twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: gave a five first round picks for someone who's never

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Speaker 2: rade an All Star team. What folks all start? That's

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Speaker 2: a popularity contest to stop All Star Game doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's guys who have been fill ins, right.

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Speaker 2: I think D'Angelo Russell famously was like a fill in

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Speaker 2: in an All Star Game, and now he's an All Star.

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Speaker 2: Nobody would take D'Angelo Russell over over mckel Bridges is nobody.

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Speaker 2: He's a three and D guy. Bridges does it miss

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Speaker 2: games right. He's one of the premier defenders in the league,

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Speaker 2: pair him with og Ananoby on the wing, and you've

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Speaker 2: got Anonoby and Bridges to match up with Brown and

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Speaker 2: have to really worry. I mean, obviously they're gonna get theirs.

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Speaker 2: This is an offensive league. But Bridges and Anonoby is

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Speaker 2: a formidable defensive duo then. And it's funny because on

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Speaker 2: Knicks starting lineup. I'm like, holy cow, how much talent

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Speaker 2: do they have? Obviously you have Brunson and then you'll

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they bringing someone else, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You've still got Josh Hart who loves to defend up

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Speaker 2: brought Brunson og and Andobie Bridge's heart Devincenzo. You got

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Speaker 2: he was very good at times. I mean, they're solid,

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Speaker 2: you're Jason. Give me your projection in the East, I

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Speaker 2: been since nineteen ninety four ninety five. I have in

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Speaker 2: my notes here that was the last time the nixt

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Speaker 2: one back to back fifty win seasons ninety four ninety five.

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Speaker 2: That was, of course, when Michael Jordan was gone and

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Speaker 2: they lost to the Rockets in Game seven of the finals,

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Speaker 2: as tough a game as I've stomached as a fan,

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Speaker 2: John Starks could not hit the broadside of a barn.

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Speaker 2: And then the following year when they won fifty Patrick

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Speaker 2: the second round, and it was just heartbreak city for

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Speaker 2: the Knicks. But those were like amazing teams. I think

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Speaker 2: these Nick teams, they've now set themselves up because all

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Speaker 2: these guys are young. Brunson's in his prime, OG's in

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Speaker 2: his prime, bridges Is, none of these guys are even thirty.

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Speaker 2: Josh Hart, Devencechenzel, these guys are all on the younger side.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, the Villanova DNA. You cannot

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Speaker 2: we had talked about this idea of like systems in

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Speaker 2: great system, right, You could see that the Boston Celtics

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Speaker 2: have a great system analytics based five out. The stan

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Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs for the longest time had a great system.

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Speaker 2: You need to develop a culture and find out like

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Speaker 2: a philosophy of what your team is about. The Knicks

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Speaker 2: have clearly made it. Hey, we love what Jay Wright

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Speaker 2: built with Villanova. We would love to duplicate that at

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Speaker 2: the NBA level and oh, by the way, you can now,

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Speaker 2: because who cares. You don't need a power forward, you

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Speaker 2: New York Knicks have done such an amazing job this week.

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Speaker 2: They're the biggest winners this week. And for anybody who's

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Speaker 2: just they gave up too much, I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: remind you the lottery odds have been flattened. There are

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Speaker 2: no guarantees that picking up five picks for Michael Bridges

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Speaker 2: one pick. The Detroit Pistons the last two years have

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Speaker 2: had the worst record in the NBA and they didn't

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Speaker 2: Now the de John to Murray one. I thought it would,

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Speaker 2: sounds like either Murray's gone or Young's gone, or both

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Speaker 2: conference finals. I don't care what you guys say. That's

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Speaker 2: a win. Giving up all those drafficks, that was a win.

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Speaker 2: Utah is going to be fumbling in the wilderness for

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Speaker 2: this case, a not all star who fits your system

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Speaker 2: and makes it go so for I guess the only

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Speaker 2: one that is still TBD would be the Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: largely agree. It's been disappointing. Two years ago they lose

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Speaker 2: in the second round of the Nuggets pushed them, they

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Speaker 2: lost four two. Then they add Bradley Beal Regress a

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Speaker 2: they had Monty Williams and they had Frank Vogel and

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Speaker 2: now they got a new coach. So it's still a

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Speaker 2: The stephen A Smith versus Matt Ishbia. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you guys saw that. We'll talk about it in

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Speaker 2: a second. But Rob, I just wanted to quickly get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts. You loved. I got a big Rob actually

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Speaker 2: broke the news to me about the Bridges' trade. I'm

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Speaker 2: at the volleyball tournament, you know, getting video my kid

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Speaker 2: and yucking it up with the parents and Rob g

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Speaker 2: sends this tweet. He text he was all excited. He's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen what, I'm not doing the show with

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Speaker 2: a pod. I'm not really on Twitter. I'm just not.

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Speaker 2: And it was Woja's stuff breaking the news and Rob

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Speaker 2: was all excited. So Rob, yeah, I'm assuming you love

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, My Nova Nick's are back baby now. P one

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Speaker 3: listeners at the straight Fire Pod and have known for

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Speaker 3: months now. We're talking all during the postseason and even

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Speaker 3: into the off season. We said who's gonna be the

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Speaker 3: guy they get in New York to go with Jalen

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Speaker 3: Bruns And remember we floated out Joel Embiid. There's been

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go through the Brooklyn Nets starting lineup. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is Operation Tank in Brooklyn. According to the depth

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Speaker 2: chart here, Dennis Shrewder is the starting point guard Cam Thomas,

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Speaker 2: But the nets are tanking. And you know, we've talked

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Ku'sman's still there. It ain't Jordan Poole.

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Speaker 2: Zealand Breakers. Okay, Sara ain't gonna come in and dominate.

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Speaker 2: Spurs looking to get a current I guess sixth grader

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Speaker 2: What on earth does that do for your franchise? Now

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Speaker 3: No, I'm glad you brought it up because when I

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Speaker 3: Williams you know, uh Malik Monk caategy where it's like

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Speaker 3: he just he just gets buckets, right, He just the

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Speaker 3: sixth man gets buckets the high end. He's he's a

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Speaker 3: lead ball handler or a secondary creator along at Anthony Edwards,

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Speaker 3: who can you know, serve as perhaps the third or

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Speaker 3: fourth best player on a good team because he can

428
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Speaker 3: just score in bunches and he's like a he's an inferno.

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Speaker 3: So that's great for Minnesota because they do that given

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Speaker 3: their tax situation and it doesn't really cost them anything

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Speaker 3: now to improve their team. For the Spurs, I just

432
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Speaker 3: do not get it at all. Victor Winbnyama shoot showed

433
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Speaker 3: in his rookie season that he's one of those guys

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Speaker 3: that he is as good as advertised, if not even better,

435
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Speaker 3: that he is going to be a force health permitting

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Speaker 3: for the next decade plus in the NBA. That he

437
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Speaker 3: is ready to win and win right now, that if

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Speaker 3: you get the right pieces around him, you get some

439
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Speaker 3: veterans in there, you get some pieces that fit that

440
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Speaker 3: they can make some noise in the Western Conference. Because

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Speaker 3: he's that good, they should be at a minimum thinking

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Speaker 3: let's make the play in next season. That's where they

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Speaker 3: should be at. And instead san Antonio would rather hope

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Speaker 3: that when Anthony Edwards is what twenty nine, that he

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Speaker 3: suddenly falls off and they're able to get a number

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Speaker 3: one overall pick in twenty thirty one, Like God forbid,

447
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Speaker 3: something doesn't go sideways, and Wenby asked for a trade

448
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Speaker 3: bef between now and twenty thirty one. The last time

449
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Speaker 3: we saw a guy similar to this wembin Yama situation,

450
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Speaker 3: and it's kind of apples to oranges here, but just

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Speaker 3: run with me here, it was Luka Doncic knew right

452
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Speaker 3: away as a rookie, Oh Lucas, he's special. He's one

453
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Speaker 3: of those guys. And how quickly can can Mark Cuban

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Speaker 3: build a team around him. It is going to take

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Speaker 3: him to the Promised Land. And they couldn't figure it

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Speaker 3: out right away, so then they make the Porzingis trade.

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Speaker 3: They think that the seven foot three, the unicorn who

458
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Speaker 3: can shoot, that's the guy who's going to fit alongside

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Speaker 3: this prolific match Johnson Larry Bird hybrid and for whatever

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Speaker 3: reason didn't work out. And you'll recall up until what

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Speaker 3: six months ago, even there was legitimate concern that Luka

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Speaker 3: Doncic could find a way to force a way out

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Speaker 3: of Dallas. When they made the Kyrie Irving trade. I know,

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Speaker 3: right now, hindsight is twenty twenty, it looks like a

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Speaker 3: great deal for them because they didn't really give a

466
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Speaker 3: whole lot to get him. But at the time it

467
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Speaker 3: was seen as a hail Mary, like, we just have

468
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Speaker 3: to do something, anything to get another star alongside Luka Doncic,

469
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Speaker 3: because we are spinning our wheels. We're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: We're one and our every year in the postseason, Lucas great.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the team is eh. So you know,

472
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Speaker 3: we got to do something, and thankfully Kyrie had suppressed

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Speaker 3: his value to a point where they were able to

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Speaker 3: get him for Dorian Finney Smith, Spencer Dinwittye and like

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Speaker 3: one first round pick. If Kyrie Irving did not you know,

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Speaker 3: quote unquote get his act together, then we would be

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Speaker 3: having a conversation right now about whether or not Luka

478
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Speaker 3: Doncic was long for Dallas, that same situation could happen

479
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Speaker 3: to win Benyama if the Spurs keep tricking around and thinking, hey,

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Speaker 3: we got this guy right now. He's really young, we

481
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Speaker 3: have plenty of time to build around him. No, he's

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Speaker 3: ready to win right now. And the NBA is not

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Speaker 3: a league where, especially with this new apron, where you

484
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Speaker 3: have eight, nine, ten years of a window to contend.

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Speaker 3: If you have a guy who you think is good enough,

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Speaker 3: you should be doing everything you can to put in

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Speaker 3: winning washer around him.

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Speaker 2: It's just extremely disappointing if you're a Spurs fan.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live wrap up, we're here with the Lakers. I've

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Speaker 1: talked about Dalton Connect. I'm almost certain more than any

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Speaker 1: other guy who does a podcast talking about the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee that I saw Connect at Tennessee last year.

496
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Speaker 2: So he was at Northern Colorado and again, Franfurscilla hit

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Speaker 2: this out of the park. We had him on a

498
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Speaker 2: year ago and he was like Dalton Connect went from

499
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Speaker 2: the Big Sky to the SEC and was like the

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Speaker 2: best player in the SEC. This is a guy who

501
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: was not recruited really at all out of high school,

502
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: went to Juco. I mean three years ago, he averaged

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Speaker 2: eight points a game in the Big Sky. Now he's

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Speaker 2: a first round pick of the Lakers. And I know

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Speaker 2: people are gonna say, oh, come on, white guy can't move.

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Speaker 2: Just stop right there, and yeah, he is white. He

507
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: can move. He's skilled, six ' six. I'm just telling

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Speaker 2: you we've seen in recent years rookies come into the

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Speaker 2: league and have a pivotal impact on teams that make

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Speaker 2: deep runs in the playoffs. Christian Brown comes to mind

511
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: out of Kansas. Was a veteran at Kansas, came in,

512
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: knows how to play basketball, ain't taking bad shots. He

513
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: was a win. He was in the rotation top seven

514
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: to eight guy for Denver when they won the title.

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Speaker 2: Derek Lively, coming out of Duke and freshman, did nothing.

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Speaker 2: Look at his NCAA tournament his final NCAA tournament game,

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Speaker 2: I'm almost certain he had zero points. He was a

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Speaker 2: total non factor. Comes into and I think it was

519
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: against Tennessee actually two years ago. Comes in and is

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00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: huge for Dallas. One of their best players at times

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Speaker 2: in the postseason, he was incredible and Jimei Hakis with

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Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. This is a guy we love the UCLA.

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Speaker 2: We talked about him on the podcast. You knew he

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Speaker 2: was a culture guy, but you're not going to take

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Speaker 2: him in the lottery because you don't take guys over

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Speaker 2: twenty two years old in the lottery. You just don't

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Speaker 2: really do it because the history is they don't pan out.

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00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: They were older in college, they destroyed teenagers and they

529
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: come to the NBA and they can't hack it. There

530
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: is a lot of them. Listen, Corey Kisbert, remember that

531
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: guy from Goodzaga, just an absolute sniper bucket getter. Washington

532
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: took him in the lottery even though he was old.

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00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: Now they're looking to trade him. He couldn't do really anything.

534
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: He could shoot, and he can put up points in blowouts,

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Speaker 2: but he's not like a pivotal factor. Dalton Connect is

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Speaker 2: gonna be more brown, He's gonna be more lively. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a little hih may hawkis from UCLA who's

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00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: very good with the Heat this year. Go look up

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00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: his numbers. He was an instrumental rotational player for the Heat.

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Speaker 2: Dalton Connect will be in the rotation. Last year the

541
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Speaker 2: Lakers bricked. They went with Hood Schaffino, who I don't know.

542
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: Did he even play forty eight minutes this entire season,

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00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: Connect is going to play. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I do wonder their new coach. JJ Reddick was a

545
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Speaker 2: shooter galore and he had a lot of the same

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00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: knocks that Connected. Oh come on, he couldn't defend a chair?

547
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: Could he create his own shot?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick could. In college, he was one of the

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Speaker 2: best scorers I've ever seen at the college level. Dalton.

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Speaker 2: Connect was amazing. Now he only did it for one

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00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: year at Tennessee, but I mean he tests off the chart.

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Speaker 2: He shot thirty nine percent from three. I'm just telling you, guys,

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Speaker 2: I love this pick for the Lakers. Well, who was

555
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: the guy that got Austin Reeves? Yeah, Austin Reeves. A

556
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: few years ago. I was like, I'm just telling you.

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00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: I watched him at Oklahoma go up against a Gonzaga

558
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: team that was stacked, and he was, I thought, the

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00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: best guy on the court and he had like twenty

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00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: eight points in an NCAA tournament game. They lost, but

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00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: you could see Austin Reeves no fear he can hang

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00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: with anybody, and that Kazagga team had like three or

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Speaker 2: four pros. Dalton. Connect will be a factor, repeat will

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00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: be a factor this season. Now I'm looking at the

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00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: breakdown Rob for salaries, Torrian Prince looks like he's toast.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with D'Angelo Russell. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Connect's going to be like a starter or anything, but

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00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: I think in the rotation top eight, I one of

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Speaker 2: the first three off the bench, I can see him thriving. Listen,

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Speaker 2: when you're playing with a D and lebron you're gonna

571
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Speaker 2: get opportunities. I think this is a home run pick

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: from Rob Polinka and kind of saves face because you

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00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: could argue he's had a rough shall we say, a

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00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 2: rough patch firing Darvin Ham when they didn't have Reddick

575
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: locked up, and then the dalliance with Hurley and then

576
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: you want to go look at Caruso and how he

577
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: bricked that, and you know it's been a tough go

578
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: for Polenka. I think this saves some grace and obviously

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Speaker 2: we'll see if they can get Bronny here in the

580
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: second round later tonight. But Rob, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: I love this Dalta Connect pick.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you a full disclosure. When the pick was made,

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00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: I was optimistic. And then I saw social media and

584
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Speaker 3: Twitter and all the draft grades and it was like

585
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: definitive A plus, the best trip steal of the draft,

586
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: all to Connect, like the Lakers hit a home run.

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00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: And anytime when it's that unanimous, I don't trust it fully.

588
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: And then I kept reading, kept reading, and I saw

589
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: this from Draft Express, which is the former shop from

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00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Jonathan Cavone he's now at ESPN, and it was the

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Speaker 3: NBA Draft physical comps and they try to factor in

592
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: planks that a little bit. Most of it's physical though. Okay,

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Speaker 3: do you want to take a guess who Dalton Connect,

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Speaker 3: based on their database most closely compares to coming out

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Speaker 3: of college.

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Speaker 2: I'll guess Austin Reeves.

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00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: No.

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00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Good guess though. Is it a white guy? No? But

599
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: he is light skinned Clay Thompson.

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Speaker 3: That is correct, future Laker Clay Thompson, only half inch

601
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: different wingspans, the same Connect, a couple more pounds heavier.

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00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: But it also.

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Speaker 3: Yes, wow, So that no, that was based on Clay

604
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: coming out of college, so the profile is the same.

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Speaker 3: So as soon as I saw that, I started doing

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Speaker 3: a little bit more Than'm like, oh, we we got

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Speaker 3: our hashtag future Laker, Clay Thompson as a rookie and

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Speaker 3: Dalton Connect. And then I did more research. I knew

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00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 3: about the thirty five point performances. I think he had

610
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: six of them last year, so I knew about that.

611
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: I knew that Lebron James was fawning over him at

612
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: a locker room, you know, a couple of months ago

613
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: in the post game. But when you see twenty one

614
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: and a half points per game on Damn near forty

615
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: shooting from three as the clear number one option on

616
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: your team in college, and if you watch his highlights,

617
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: I know you have. But if America, if you watch

618
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: his highlights, this is not stand still, spot up shooting,

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Speaker 3: Dalton Connect. Dalon Knneck's coming off of pin downs, He's

620
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: coming off of curls. He's he's you know, running elevator

621
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: screens for him to get him open and pop open looks.

622
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: He can do it all as a shooter. So I

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Speaker 3: think I'm optimistic again about him and his ability to

624
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 3: fit in with the team in the short term, especially

625
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: because he can shoot the ball. But if you watch

626
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: him play, I know that he's white, and people are

627
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: going to assume he's JJ Reddick, unathletic white guy. Aw

628
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 3: he does his shoot. He also has a thirty nine

629
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Speaker 3: inch vertical. He's got more bounced than people would expect

630
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: by looking at him. He's more athletic than people would

631
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: expect by looking at him. I think in the short

632
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: term and in the long term, the post Lebron James

633
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: era that Dalton connect is going to be one of

634
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: the foundational pieces for the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Foundational that's a spicy take. So listen the draft. I'm

636
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Speaker 2: gonna close with this, and I'm not gonna this is

637
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: not ESPN bashing. But you know, I'm on the flight

638
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: back from Phoenix, not short flight, very short flight, and

639
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, I turn it, I turn on on my phone,

640
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: I get the Wi Fi and I see Richard Jefferson,

641
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: which is you know, listen, guy played a long time

642
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: in the league, he played for Lebron. He's got a

643
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: good podcast, he's got a good demeanor. Everything about him,

644
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson checks all the box. I get it. You

645
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: got your host, you got Billis who covered college basketball,

646
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: so you've got college hoops covered with Billis, you got

647
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: the pros covered with RJ. You got your host. And

648
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: then they added another girl who I've seen on WNBA

649
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: cover or maybe it was women's college hoops covers, but

650
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: I don't recall seeing her call college basketball games or

651
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: even announcing or chiming in or being an analyst, and

652
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't remember her being on any NBA coverage, And

653
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, what does she do? So I waited to

654
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: listen to what she's talking about, and they would get

655
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: to like a pick, you know, the kid, the seven

656
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: footer from Baylor or whatever, and she spends you know,

657
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: like ninety seconds breaking it down, and I'm sitting here like, wait,

658
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: what's the role? And it felt it just felt like

659
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: there was something missing from the broadcast in terms of

660
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: where's like the take guy. Where's the opinion guy. You know,

661
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: obviously you have Woje and Bobby Marks to break down

662
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: Woges with the news, Bobby Marks with like the salary cap,

663
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: and then Gavoni who goes to every gym around the world,

664
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: and I know, a little bit nice guy. But you've

665
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: got all these guys in the roles, but they were

666
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: missing a take guy. You know, they start talking about

667
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just gonna pick the New Orleans Pelicans,

668
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: and the discussion is about how this potential seven footer

669
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: they took out of Baylor could fit. And I'm like,

670
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: that's again. It just felt like that's not the discussion

671
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: to have to be had. And then I'm like, well,

672
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: what is I wonder what the audience is thinking? Are

673
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: they really tuned in? Are they in lockstep with you know,

674
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: I'll just pick a guy out of thin air, Jacoby

675
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: Walter out of Baylor going to the Raptors, Like, does

676
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: the audience really care? Is Jacoby Walter going to do anything?

677
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: Be a factor?

678
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Carlton Carrington getting drafted at Pittsburgh, Like, my first thought

679
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: is nobody cares about a lot of these guys. And

680
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: that's not disrespectful. I know, this is one of the

681
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: biggest heights of their lives and it's exciting and getting

682
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: called on stage, that's great, wonderful, awesome, But for the fan,

683
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: for the audience, who are you serving with breakdowns of

684
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: these guys and the one brick they had Rob And

685
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: this is no fault of theirs, but they go, you know,

686
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: Rob Dillingham gets drafted by the Spurs. Everybody loves it,

687
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: how he's gonna fit with Wemby, and within you know,

688
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: ninety seconds, he's traded, and like, all that's out the window.

689
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: And I don't know, Rob, I just didn't see a

690
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: lot of critical analysis of teams of I didn't see

691
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: a lot of like takes. When the Charlotte Hornets took

692
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: their guy in all honesty to take should have been

693
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: what the hell is Charlotte doing? So Michael Jordan's gone.

694
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be better at this stuff now, and

695
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: they're taking a major project from friends. They're going to

696
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: be right back here at the top of the draft

697
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: next year. I didn't hear anybody. I like the Eedi pic,

698
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: but like the Utah Jazz come up and I was like, Hey,

699
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: what was the last time we talked about the Jazz? Oh? Yeah,

700
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: when they were good? Like I need takes, Like what

701
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: are the Jazz doing? This makes no sense? The bulls

702
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 2: are tanking. I don't know that I heard the word

703
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: tank all night.

704
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Now.

705
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the whole thing, obviously, but Rob, I

706
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: just again as a viewer and a fan, I found

707
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: myself muting the telecast and going to social media where

708
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: it was a little spicier and maybe I'm an outlier

709
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: or I'm a what's the word an olds? Is that

710
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: what it is? Or I'm just a fossil or whatever

711
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: and I'm too old, and like that's the new analysis

712
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: people want. I don't know, I just felt it left

713
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: a little. I just want more takes, you know. And

714
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give him all the all the credit,

715
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: but I do remember when Bill Simmons was on there,

716
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: he was saying some outlandish stuff and it might have

717
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: been too much for the league, and I wonder, like,

718
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: did Mike Wibo and He's just like, listen, this draft sucks.

719
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to be on here. I don't even

720
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: remember who they had last year from one Minyama. But

721
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: it just felt rob to me, Like maybe because I'm

722
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: in the take business now, I want more. I want

723
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: more hard hitting takes. Like, Hey, Sacramento, what on earth

724
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: are you doing? Is this the Tyrese Haliburton draft all

725
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: over again? You just signed Malik Bunk, You drafted my

726
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: guy off Night a couple of years ago. He barely plays.

727
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: You're loaded at guard and you draft another guard, a

728
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: shooting guard at thirteen. I mean, I get okay. On

729
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: some level, I get hey, get the best player on board.

730
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: We'll figure out the rest later. I'm cool with that.

731
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: I got it. But it just some of these I

732
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: just felt like some of these teams needed to be

733
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: called out a little more and they didn't have that.

734
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 2: And again, hey, I get it, some of these guys

735
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: have cozy relationships with some of the teams and some

736
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: of the agents. They don't want to step on toes that.

737
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: I get that too. That's fine, and I'm not calling

738
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: for we need steven A. Smith on the draft. By

739
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: the way, Steven A. Smith was a massive width this

740
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: week saying Kevin Durant, the Sons want to get out

741
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: of Kevin Durant. Is this The owner came out and

742
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: was like, we love Kevin Durant. He's not going anywhere.

743
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: He's a foundational piece for us. Now, maybe he's bluffing

744
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: in line. I don't see that, but its just I

745
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: don't know. Rub weird week here for some of these

746
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: pundits on ESPN.

747
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, now full disclosure again. I had to

748
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: co host The Odd Couple last night, so when I

749
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: had the draft on, I had it muted. So I

750
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: was just watching it like the rest of America. I

751
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: didn't get to hear the analysis, I didn't get to

752
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: hear the lack of hot takes. But I was on

753
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: Twitter during the show, and the consensus seemed to be

754
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: on my Twitter feed at least, was that the draft

755
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: broadcast was being botched by WOJ, that WOJ was tipping

756
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: picks for the draft, which I guess, you know, is

757
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: common nowadays that I love. Sure, I have no issue

758
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: with that, but because he was tipping them like during

759
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: the broadcast, that's the way I was reading it. So

760
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: it kind of took away from like, well, why am

761
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: I watching then if you're already giving me the pick,

762
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: you know, Like that was that was the vibe that

763
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: I was getting on my social media so and and again,

764
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if this might be a little, you know,

765
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: too deep down the rabbit hole, but I've always been

766
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: of the belief that when it comes to you know,

767
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: guys like WOJ and guys like Schaan's, you know, they

768
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: serve a purpose in today's media climate. And I'll totally

769
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: give them credit. They're two of the best in the

770
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 3: world at what they do. However, my opinion has always been.

771
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't care who breaks the news first. I honestly

772
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: do not care if WOJ breaks the story and he says,

773
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: you know, Zachi eats a Memphis at number nine.

774
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: Cool.

775
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: Now I want to know what is Jason max Tire

776
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: think about what this means moving forward? What does Colin

777
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: Cowhard think about this as moving forward? What is like whoever?

778
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: Once the news is out there, whether I got it

779
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: at nine oh one or nine oh three from your

780
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: local beat writer makes no difference to me. I just

781
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: want to know what's next. And usually for what's next,

782
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: that's when I go to the analyst, to the opinion

783
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: this person that's just me.

784
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. I'll just say

785
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: I like the tipping picks. I want the news out there,

786
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: but what I want is the quick, critical analysis. That's

787
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: why I'm tuning in. I think that's why people download

788
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: the podcast, That's why people turn on a TV. They

789
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: want the analysis. They know what's happening, they see it.

790
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: They want us to, you know, insiders or people who

791
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: follow it closely have some domain expertise. They want us

792
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: to chime in quickly and have takes and listen. It

793
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: is hard, and a lot of people. The problem Rob

794
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: written now is a lot of people are afraid to

795
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 2: be wrong. I don't give two shits. Nobody cares, honestly,

796
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: in the moment, oh my gosh, he was so wrong.

797
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: He was way wrong about that game. And then guess what,

798
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: like within thirty minutes, it's onto the next moving target.

799
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Nobody cares. Being wrong is part of the game. Remember

800
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: in baseball, if you hit, if you go to bat

801
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: and you get a hit one out of every three times,

802
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: you're having a great season.

803
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 3: Great season, you're an All Star.

804
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, one out of three. In the NBA, if you

805
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: if you're shooting thirty three percent from three, it's it's

806
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: all right.

807
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Now.

808
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: You bump that out to thirty five, thirty five out

809
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: of one hundred threes, it's not bad. You get thirty

810
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: seven thirty eight, it's like, oh, hello, I saw the

811
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: kid Shepherd who was drafted third by the Rockets. Kind

812
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: of surprising. He does definitely look like a guy who

813
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: deals in TPS reports. He shot like fifty two percent

814
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: from three. I think he had the best three point

815
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: shooting season in college basketball given the volume that he took.

816
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: Since like Glenn Rice Glenn Rice in Michigan. I love

817
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: that guy, but like Fify, that's an amazing fifty percent

818
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: from three is amazing. Fifty fifty percent of your takes

819
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: are right, and that's terrible, Like, come on, it's sports guys. Anyways,

820
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: that's a lengthy pod. Good to be back. Very excited.

821
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: We're back Manyana, where we surely we'll talk about USA

822
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: soccer and probably Brownie James. I don't know. We'll see

823
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: talk to you then