1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to. Now came 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: at I'm gonna try something interesting with this to open 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: up our podcast. You ready, all right? Go with me 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: on this. In a world where less than one percent 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: the human population controls the futures, fates, and destiny of 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the entire human race, what can one man do? So 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: that's like my film intro and then this, Yeah you like, 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to figure out who would play the 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: protagonists in this movie about somebody fighting. The topic of 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: today's podcast, the Illuminati. Oh man? Uh? Nicolas Cage. Nicolas Cage. Yeah, 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: you know what? Not a bad pick because he could 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: go weird with it if he if he had to. 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: I feel like he has to go weird with stuff. Uh. Anyhow, 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. My name is Ben Bolan. Oh, 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: my name is Matt Frederick, and today we're here to 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Illuminati, by far, one 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: of the most prevalent conspiracy theories. Um ever, really, Uh, 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: the the Illuminati is something that we have covered extensively 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: in our video show. I guess we have three three 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: part series on that. We officially have three, but there 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: is a fourth technical one on the Illuminati in the 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: music industry that you can find. Yes, great point, Matt, 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: and our series on the Illuminati covers a couple of 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: things that we won't rehash too much here. It covers 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: the what we know about the founding of the historical Illuminati. 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: It covers the rumors and conjecture about some sort of 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: secret past, Uh, what goes to the Illuminati in the 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: modern day, right, who that might be? And then it 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: asked some questions about the future now the music industry. 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: One was a is a surprise to me how how 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: prevalent that belief is. But let's just start with the facts. 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: We'll get weird to get crazy with it as we 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: go on, but let's start with the facts, Matt. What's 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: the historical Illuminati? So we do know there's this man 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: named Adam Wi Shot who in seventeen seventy six founded 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: a secret society called the Illuminati, and it's real. You 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: can look it up. He's real. And um, now, the 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: question is how much further did that society grow? Did 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: it become something bigger or was it a part of 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: something much older, right, This is this is where the 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories start to come in. Yeah. Interesting side note, 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: his name in the order was allegedly brother Spartacus Nice. 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: So what did bro Spartacus have to do with any 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: of the historical rumors about the Illuminati? When he started 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: the very chapter there was also this rumor that he 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: in a way encouraged that the Illuminati was actually uh 49 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: secret society that was thousands of years old, and that 50 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: this society was secretly again guiding humanity towards towards something 51 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: or another. But we can fast forward past a lot 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: of this because a lot of those claims are explored 53 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: in our video series. What we wanted to talk about 54 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: today is, first, if there is something like the Illuminati 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: and it can be proven to exist, because that's the thing, 56 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: that's the thing that makes skeptics and people who believe 57 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: in the Illuminati bump heads often. Is this idea all right? First, 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: the most difficult to believe part of something like this, right, 59 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: would be, well, if there is one group of people 60 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: that are somehow controlling the world, then how can it 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: be a secret? How can there be absolutely no proof? 62 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: And one of the conspiratorial responses to that would be 63 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: that just proves how good they are. The proof is 64 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: that it's not there. I can see Nicolas Cage saying 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: that line. Right, yeah, but the but we we have 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: found some interesting things that might change people's minds. Here's 67 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: where here's where it gets weird. So we know that 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: we know that there's not really at this point any 69 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: hard proof that the the Illuminati as they're explored in 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: a lot of conspiracy theories or a lot of alternative history. 71 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: We know there's no solid, universally agreed on proof that 72 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: this group exists in the modern age. But what we 73 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: can prove is that there are a lot of extremely wealthy, 74 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: extremely powerful groups that exist, and in particular now those 75 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: groups are a lot of times corporations with controlled banks. 76 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Um usually some kind of corporate entity, right, But it 77 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: could also be some sort of religious entity or religious affiliated, 78 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: religiously affiliated entity, for instance, the like church has Opus day. Uh. 79 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: There are there, of course, numerous incidents um or examples 80 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: rather in history of of groups that arose to uh 81 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: unknown power level, and we're able at some point in 82 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: history to exert control over something behind the curtain like 83 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: P two in Italy, right, propaganda do which was an 84 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: offshoot of the Freemasons. Um. But the thing is, when 85 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: when we talk about this there there are a couple 86 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: of ways to look at it. First, is it is 87 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: it kind of disappointing? Are we throwing cold water on 88 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the idea, because what we're proposing is that secret societies 89 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: have existed, or secretive at least, and they continue to 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: wield some sort of influence over span of time, but 91 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: maybe not for all of human history. Or we can 92 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: look at it the second way, which I think is 93 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: the more realistic and frankly more frightening way, which is 94 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: that there's not one group of people controlling the world effectively, 95 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: there are multiple groups of people attempting to control the world, 96 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: which leads inevitably too horrible horrible things. Yeah, the conflict gets, uh, 97 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: let's say, ratcheted up when when the stakes are world control, right, 98 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and we we know for instance that, um, it's funny. 99 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: There's a great article in uh Straight Dope, uh where 100 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: the you know, the guy at Straight Dope, Cecil Adams. 101 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Someone asks him if there's any truth to the stories 102 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: about secret societies like the Illuminati, The Builderberg Council on 103 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Foreign Relations trilateral commissions, so on, and uh, he goes 104 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: in his response, he says, you know what is crazy? 105 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: A secretive group that does wield a lot of influence 106 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: the n s A. Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I 107 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: was thinking this whole time. Yeah, well, you hit the 108 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: nail on the head, my friend, because if you think 109 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: about the n ESA does have some of the superpowers 110 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: often ascribed to the Illuminati. But also, you know, it's 111 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: it's it's weird because it's human nature. Humans are gregarious 112 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: and cooperative and more than the sum of their parts. 113 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: So of course in human society, people with influence will 114 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: attempt to pull their powers to gain more influence. UM. 115 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: And at this point, again, it really depends on where 116 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: you fall in um, where you fall in the priorities 117 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: of the critical thinking exercise. Is it really to you? 118 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Is the lack of proof of the quote unquote conspiratorial Illuminati? Uh? 119 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Is that lack of proof proof in it's of of itself? 120 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Or is the claim of a single secret society so 121 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary that it requires just amazing, watertight evidence. It sounds 122 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: it's so weird. It sounds as though to me, let's say, 123 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it from the conspiratory stamp. Okay, Yeah, 124 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: it sounds to me as though the illumin audio is 125 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: some kind or at least the word is kind of 126 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: a smoke screen for a lot of these other very 127 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: powerful groups. It's almost the thing that you look at 128 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: instead of the real thing. Oh I see, okay, So 129 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: and and it's also kind of um just saying it 130 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: could be kind of a misdirection. And you're also saying 131 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: also pointing out that it functions as an umbrella term 132 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: of stuff of sorts right near a strawman in a way. Yeah. Yeah, 133 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: And maybe that is to the detriment of people who 134 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: do deserve to know more about uh secretive meetings that 135 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: can affect the course of history or your life as 136 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: an individual. One one thing if we look at like 137 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: a ven diagram, one thing that all secret society conspiracy 138 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: theories have in common is that they believe the goal 139 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: of the society is somehow to remove autonomy or agency 140 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: or serenity from nation states or individuals. And that's a 141 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: that's an understandable thing, and I'm putting it in in a 142 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: very base level. But maybe calling something illuminati is is oversimplifying, 143 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: maybe sensationalizing a little bit. But in future episodes when 144 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: we explore some of those other groups we just name dropped, 145 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: we're going to see that there can be um some 146 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: disturbing grains of truth uh in in these claims. Now, 147 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: we're not saying these people are necessarily half reptile, half 148 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: human creatures with some strange blood oath to I don't know, 149 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: make everybody like two and a half men or something. 150 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: That the goal the TV show I have no idea, 151 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: but but the goals that the ascribed goals in the specifics, 152 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: my point being, they can vary widely, and they can 153 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: also vary. They can vary widely in terms of content, 154 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: but they can also vary widely in terms of plausibility. Well, okay, 155 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: so I agreed. One of the things that we have 156 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: owned is that one of the best ways to exert 157 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: control is by controlling money, uh currency, sure, yes, and 158 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: also belief, like you said, with religion, controlling what what 159 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: a massive people believe is. It's highly important if you 160 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: want to control the world. But going back to the money, 161 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: sorry to go on the off four there we there's 162 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: this great Forbes article that we've been looking at, and 163 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of old it's from two thousand eleven, but 164 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: and it's entitled The one and forty seven Companies that 165 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Control Everything, and it's a study that was done by 166 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, and it's 167 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: one of the one of the best micro reads that 168 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: I've done in a while. The actual study, which you 169 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: can find if you search for this online. It there's 170 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: a link inside this Forbes article to the actual study 171 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: in the big model and everything, and it explains to 172 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: their findings. So what they did in this study essentially 173 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: is that a they looked at forty three thousand and 174 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: sixty transnational corporations and then they started connecting the dots, 175 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: the share ownership dots here and they found that based 176 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: on their model, there's kind of a bow tie shape 177 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: and they found a dominant core right of these investment 178 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: companies that have steaks in each other and stakes somehow 179 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: uh into about of the wealth in this network of 180 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: forty three thousand huge corporations UM. And when you look 181 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: at the numbers, it's it's pretty distressing. Uh, seventy seven 182 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:49,479 Speaker 1: thirty seven companies I believe control of that global wealth UM. 183 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: And then this was what's strange with this is that 184 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: some of the individuals in these companies may be serving 185 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: on multiple boards UM. And it's also it's also distressing 186 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: and surprising to think that, given just the size of 187 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: the world's economy, that the wealth would be concentrated so 188 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: much in a hundred and forty seven companies. Now the 189 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: top ones are going to your point, the top ones 190 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: are financial and interest, right like Barclays is number one, 191 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: at least it was at the time it was at 192 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: the time of this article. And some people might be 193 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: listening to us right now, Matt and seeing you guys 194 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: are exaggerating or that's that doesn't necessarily mean they have 195 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: great control over the world's economy. Are shills for the corporations, right, 196 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: or you guys are shills reasons? Yeah, but we're if 197 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: we're just looking at some of the facts here, we 198 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: do know that these We do know that some people 199 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: have rejected this study, most notably a guy named Eric Savitts, 200 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: who when he was writing UM with Forbes, he wrote 201 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: a retort uh claiming that these companies in the top 202 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: fifty list they're just investment companies. They are operating, so 203 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: that means that maybe they're just putting their money in 204 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of different pies so that they can diversify 205 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: and remain stable. Now, for for my money personally, this 206 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: it's still disturbing that there would be that kind of 207 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: inequality of control. But I do think that's a fair point, 208 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: because you know, the money that these companies have is 209 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily money that they are directly managing. Right, Yeah, 210 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: that's true. It's tied to indicase a lot of this money, 211 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: so like, uh, like mutual funds exactly, hedge funds, mutual funds, 212 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So then but then another 213 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Forbes writer Brennan cofey after who wrote that article, I 214 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: think it was Sabat's Yeah, Eric saviatts okay. So then 215 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: it's so great to kind of read through these articles 216 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and fours of the different writers kind of shooting words 217 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: at each other. So then, uh, this other guy, Brinton Kofy, Right, 218 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: he's a contributor who it does say on here that 219 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: he works for someone else now, so I don't know 220 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: what that means as far as writing this article, but anyway, 221 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: he says that there are actually four companies inside this 222 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: massive list that was outlined in the one companies that 223 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: actually do exert a certain amount of control because, like 224 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: you said, all of that money, a lot of that 225 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: money is controlled by the indices. There's five percent of 226 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: it that is not that is that can be directly manipulated, 227 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: and that is by these four companies that actually have 228 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: an ability to to influence this money. McGraw hill, Northwestern Mutual, 229 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: c m E Group, and Barkley's because Barkley's purchased Lehman Brothers. 230 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Uh what is it, They're Lehman Aggregate Bond Index. So 231 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: that's weird because most people in the United States probably 232 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: associate McGraw hill with textbooks. Yeah, that's that's exactly what 233 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: when it's weird, I imagine these textbooks publishers. Maybe that's 234 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: just the side hustle they own Standard and ah yeah, yeah, yeah, 235 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 1: that makes sense. So they own some of the indices. 236 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: And that's that's interesting because let's think about the numbers here. 237 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: We went from over forty three thousand transnational corporations to 238 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty seven that control eighty percent of 239 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: global wealth in some way, to uh one and forty 240 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: seven it to four companies that exert some sort of 241 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: influence over those other hundred forty seven YEA of the 242 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: actively managed funds. And this is this is interesting because 243 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: at this level, the money at this level is amazing. 244 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: And going back to going back to your statement, which 245 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,359 Speaker 1: I totally agree with about the way to influence society 246 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: directly or indirectly through finance. UM, it reminds me of 247 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: what was that old roths Rothschild attributed quote where it says, 248 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: give me control of the nation's money supply. I'm paraphrasing, 249 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: but it was something like, give me control of a 250 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: nation's money supply, and I don't care who's in office. 251 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: And that is in my opinion, whether or not that 252 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: is is an actual statement the guy made because Rothschild 253 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: family members are often misquoted, but whether or not he 254 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: actually said that, I think that is a profound point 255 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: and it's an absolutely true point. Controlling the money supply 256 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: is a way to control so much more. And um, 257 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: as we're recording this, we had just recorded a couple 258 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: of episodes on the gold Standard, which was an illuminating 259 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: experience for us. And uh, we hope that you check 260 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: out this video here. No met I gotta ask you 261 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: in the future when we cover other secret societies what's 262 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: one of the first ones you want to take a 263 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: crack at in our audio. I would like to hit 264 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: skull and Bones. Uh, particularly for the two thousand four election. Ah. Yes, 265 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: Skull and Bones uh as secretive, elite collegiate organization. It's 266 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: probably the most politically correct way to say and uh. 267 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: And then two thousand four election and it made some 268 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: weird waves in the media because both the both of 269 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: the candidates for president Democrat and Republican were members of 270 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: the Skull and Bones organization in college, and it made 271 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and also part of their terms. They refused to speak 272 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: about it. Yes, both of them refused to speak about it. Well, 273 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: because it's a secret society. Come on, yeah, But if 274 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: you want to avoid if you want to avoid speculation, 275 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: if it's like in Hitchcock movies, you know where they 276 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: say one of the masterful things that Alfred Hitchcock did 277 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: is he never really showed the monster on screen all 278 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: the time. Right, So the monster that you create in 279 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: your mind with a lack of some sort of evidence 280 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: is is going to tend to be just terrifying. So 281 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: you mean kind of like the Illuminati, kind of like 282 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the Illuminati. Nice way to bring it back around. Um, 283 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: and maybe that's why people are so upset. But let's 284 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: I'd like to end this episode with just naming some 285 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: of the craziest things we've heard about the Illuminati, like 286 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: craziest theories, and then inviting our listeners to respond and 287 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: do the same. Okay, that sounds great, all right, UM 288 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: to go first, Yeah, you go first. You've got a 289 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: good one, I'm sure. Well. I think one of my 290 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: favorite ones was that the the Illuminati as we think 291 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: of it today has its roots in the Brotherhood of 292 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: the Snake, which is an ancient Egyptian secret society based 293 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: on aliens that made human beings. Oh cool, kind of 294 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: an ancient aliens thing, I got you. Another one that 295 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: I had heard, uh, was that the Illumini attempts to 296 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: control society through pop music. Now we've done an episode 297 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: on this, but that it's specifically linked to um underground 298 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: pedophilia rings that for some reason. Yeah, and UM, we 299 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: do know now this is a bit dark, but we'll 300 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: we'll keep it appropriate, um for for families here. That 301 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: we do know that there have been in the past 302 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: some crazy sex scandals along that time along those lines 303 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: with involving powerful people. UM. I'm thinking, most notably about 304 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the incidents in Belgium. But the that does that prove 305 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: that there's this huge secret society or does that prove 306 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: that they're that powerful? People can also just be really twisted, 307 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: messed up folks in their private lives. Yeah, I hope 308 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: to lean towards the ladder, but I don't know. Yeah 309 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: that maybe that's something we can explore in an audio podcast. 310 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: That's something those kinds of topics and allegations were stuff 311 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: that we can't really explore a video because we Yeah, 312 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: we couldn't show it to you tastefully, and I wouldn't 313 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: want to. I don't know. It's there's there's an integrity 314 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: there that I wouldn't want to. Yeah, that we don't 315 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: want to cross a line on. But okay, So another 316 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: crazy thing I heard about the Illuminati. I heard that 317 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: the Illuminati uh descended from secret hermetic orders and that 318 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: magic works, and that they practice working magic. Nice. Now 319 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: would that have anything to do with Bohemian Grove and 320 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: the creation of caros? That just completely different? Oh, nice, 321 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove, that's a good one. We have to cover 322 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: that too. Bohemian Grove ladies and gentlemen is a real thing. 323 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: You've probably heard of it, but if you haven't, go 324 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: check out our videos on the Bohemian Grove. Now, uh, 325 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: let's say, let's see, Uh, Matt, I'd like to return 326 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: to the Illuminati in the future. Um. I. I enjoyed 327 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: doing our series on it, but I felt like there 328 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: was so much more we could have explored. So what 329 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to propose for our next recording is that 330 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: when we touch on the Illuminati again, let's go with, uh, 331 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: let's try to find some really specific instance of alleged 332 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: Illuminati meddling. What do you say? That sounds great? Alright, 333 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: so we're gonna go off and work on that. 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