WEBVTT - Vacations to Chernobyl and Black Mirror 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:08.960 M It's one fifty six am in the Zone of 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:27.000 Alienation and you're listening Tonight Call. Hello everybody, and welcome 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.200 to Night Call, a podcast for your strange days and 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.120 lonely nights. I am Molly Lambert and with you here 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.040 in Los Angeles Tess Lynch, and over in New York 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.519 we have Emily Orshida. Hi, guys, Hello, what are you 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.440 doing today? We are going to talk about the new 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:50.680 black Mirrors and a Chernobyl conspiracy introduced. Yes. Uh, And 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.440 first we are going to talk about just some newsy 0:00:54.480 --> 0:01:00.640 news news. Um you guys, you put this so blind 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:05.959 item from our problematic fave Crazy Days and Nights about Okay? 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:10.600 Should I just read this? Um? Okay? The foreign born 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.760 former A List syndicated actress turned A List celebrity has 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.720 an encryption key that was given to her by the 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.520 foreign born infamous celebrity. It will only work upon his death. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.200 I'm not sure I would want to be the one 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.520 who had that key. I wonder if he disappeared for 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.000 several days and couldn't contact anyone, if that would trigger 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:33.720 it to uh So, this is about Pamela Anderson and 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:39.320 Juliana sand Allegedly, I take issue. By the way, I 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.840 really think Pamela Anderson an apologies to Pamela Anderson. I 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.640 think she is B list. I do not think she 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.480 is a list. She's a list name record they said, 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:56.919 they said a list syndicated. Okay, that's it. I really 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.360 feel like she she was a for a long time. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.920 I think we have to but this is now she 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:07.120 is a Sange's That's what's so weird. I mean, just 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:13.000 the whole Pamil and Anderson Julian Assange weird romance. You 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.760 want to call it, I wouldn't want to call. Does 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.600 anybody know the full story about their relationship? Nobody knows. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:24.400 That's what makes a mysterious. They were just at a 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.359 party together, you know, and the um what was at 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:33.280 the at the embassy. Uh, it's so cyberpunk. They met 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.799 in weird rich people circles, which is how all these 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.160 people know each other. But the idea they met in 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:45.240 like the spa from um from Sexy Beasts, like the 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.200 idea that pam Anderson has some kind of like a 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.040 doomsday key to anything. Oh my god, it's a it's 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.080 a very twenty nineteen. Yeah, we can't help but stand 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.160 I'm afraid. I can't stand it. You got Oh, it's bad. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.400 I don't approve of her relationship with Julian Assange, but 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.440 I've been I've been forced to clarify several times that 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.079 he is probably a rapist, but he also is maybe 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.400 being held for things that are just about releasing infoe. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:19.160 All right. I hesitate to uh promote something by my 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:24.360 partner slash Bouse on the podcast, but my husband David 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:29.600 did a video years ago re enacting some friends of 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.799 this filmmaker did a short that was basically a re 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.280 enactment of the time that Julian Assange crashed in their 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.160 house for like a month what was supposed to be 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.400 like a week and then turned into like kept kept 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.280 getting stretched out and stretched out and he basically like 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.440 was doing work on their couch and just like was 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.720 filthy and like left food everywhere. I would like to 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.720 see the crashing staring exactly. Well, that's basically what they 0:03:52.760 --> 0:04:00.480 made and starts David as Julia typecast. When you have 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.560 cool white hair and you know a lot about stuffy 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.480 and can just do like a totally blank affect on you, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.480 do you have a doomsday key to David? I know 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.640 that's like the downside is that romantic? Is it romantic 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:23.760 to give someone the doomsdake tremendously better than trust? I 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.880 think that that's like, that's like the great thing about 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.440 being a celebrity, like on the order of a Pamela Anderson. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.800 Is it like sometimes you can just like find you 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.640 can just trip and fall into a situation where you 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:41.120 have a doomsday. It's just like her show was a 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.160 v I P. Was that the one where she was 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.200 a secret agent? Love that show, by the way, syndicated 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.240 a list show. She played like a superspy on a 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.560 show that was on television late at night. UM for 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:59.320 discerning viewers like me, it was a good show, talkings 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:04.839 type jam. Yeah, it's just it makes sense. Yeah, speaking 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.000 of the dystopian future present more celebrities from the past, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:16.240 celebrity dogs from the past, more like guys. I this 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.760 came to us. I put this in the dock after 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:25.240 it was posted in the Facebook group. So Barbara Streisand 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.359 brought her three dogs who were cloned from her deceased dog, 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.240 to the deceased dog's grave and shared a picture of 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.080 it on social media. Very odd, I mean, I think 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.880 it's supposed to be heartwarming. It's amazing, but it is. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.279 It is weird. It's about what you would expect, a 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.320 bunch of dogs that all look the same. Well, there's 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.280 isn't there like a picture of the dead dogs on 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.240 the grave. Yeah, it's like one of those grays that 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.479 has a photo a little a little circle photo in it. Um. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:06:00.559 And then three triplet dogs sitting on to our sisters ones. Sorry, okay, okay, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.040 all right, And also we should name them because their 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.000 names are amazing. Scarlet, Violet and Fanny, who were cloned 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.800 from Samantha. Samantha. You know what this is all preparing 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.400 us for is that barber Ship has cloned herself. Clearly, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.120 I don't think she'd want to be no, so she 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:27.200 could live on after she dies. Yeah. Um, well we'll 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.719 link to this photo or put it in the show notes, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.599 which wink wink, you can get if you subscribe to 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.520 our patreon. UM always always looking for an opportunity to 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:42.680 plug that UM. Also in news this week, guys, First 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.839 of all, a meta comment about this um. Life Science 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.800 is kind of like a bullshit website, right, it's in 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:58.039 what way every time Molly or tests sends me a 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.960 link from life Science. If I'm at a computer, I 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.080 will like go and search the keywords from the news 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.200 story to see if it's popped up on any other 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.840 like science news website, and I would say, like one 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.880 out of three times it does. Oh yeah, well, I 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:19.240 mean it's kind of like the Live strong of science aggregator. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.080 In fact, for a while I was kind of confusing 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.200 them and being like, oh, it's weird to just go 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.840 from like lemonade to help regulate your blood sugar to 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.680 like outer space, and then it's like, no, there're two 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:35.080 different websites that are largely aggregators. You know, don't don't 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.840 dis the source of the moon minute news. That's true. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.640 Those things are true. They come from space dot com, 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:46.000 another reputable science website that everybody trusts. If you work 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.520 at Live Science or if you are if you work 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.520 at a content farm. I follow some of the science 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.880 the content farm scientists at from Life science. Some of 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.920 them are real, but they do. We're so used to 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.240 like the content farm, like the values of a celebrity 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.760 or entertainment driven content farm, because we worked places like that, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.760 but the science one is such a different game. It's 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:16.680 like the moon must be the equivalent of the Kardashians. Um. Anyway, 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.920 this is not about the moon though. Um, this is 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:25.040 about Bigfoot's FBI file turns out the government some hairs, 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.960 that some hairs supposedly belonged to big Foot. That's why 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.840 we read Life Science because it gives us the hard news. Um. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.240 But it shows you that the FBI took it seriously enough. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.920 I mean, they didn't throw out this. This guy like 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.240 apparently just sent them some some Bigfoot hairs, being like this, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.960 these are hairs that came from Bigfoot, and they didn't 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.839 throw them out. So they were like, what a coup. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.360 They were like, we must keep these in case Bigfoot 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:57.680 kills again, which he obviously well kills again. They were 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.600 dear hair is correct. It was not able to compare 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.360 the hair with that of any known creature on this 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.920 continent I'm reading here. Unfortunately, for Bigfoot hunters, the results 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.080 weren't what they may have hoped. In seven, the lab 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.440 examined the fifteen hairs. A final letter from Cochrane, addressed 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.200 to Howard S. Curtis, Executive Vice president of the a 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.959 a S, read like this, Dear Mr Curtis, the hair 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.040 is which you recently delivered to the FBI laboratory on 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.439 behalf of the Bigfoot Information Center and exhibition have been 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:34.079 examined by transmitted incident light microscopy. Okay. Also, the hairs 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.360 were compared directly with hairs of known origin under a 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.680 comparison microscope. It was concluded as a result of these 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.800 examinations that the hairs are of dear family origin. The 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:49.560 hair example you submiss being returned. So for for most 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.960 of the article they were like the FBI, I was 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.559 taking it very seriously with these big foots. That's the 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.439 problem with life science. Though they buried the lead. Um, 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.959 but yeah, they had that science in there at the end. Um. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.040 The letter really reads like a rejection letter from like 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:11.439 a literary magazine. That what they would say, right right, okay, Okay. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.640 Chloy is nodding his head because he agrees they are 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.760 trying to cover up dear family origin. I mean, hey, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:23.800 if Bigfoot were a giant like you know, bear crossed 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.600 with and ape crossed to the deer, you know, it 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.720 would make sense he wants to have the like the 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.400 slick short hair so it can easily wick away moisture, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:39.040 doesn't show him down. Yeah, there's probably different types of 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:47.080 fur for different biomas. Speaking of biomas, Yeah, so the 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.080 world has Chernobyl fever right now. UM, I feel like 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.120 we have not gotten into that. I was talking, I 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.679 was talking to you guys last week, and I was like, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.400 I want to watch Chernobyl. Everybody says it's so great, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.240 but I'm just like not in the head space to 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:06.360 watch a bunch of people puking from um from radiation poisoning. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.959 Oh you got the puke warning, because I was going 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.560 to say, I watched the first one and I'm going 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:19.160 to puke right now, just like anyone might do before 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.600 they watched something about Chernobyl, like make a big old 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.320 plate of food and sit down to watch Ernom. You 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.839 just can't do that, You can't. I did the first 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.079 time I watched Dexter, and I was like, really regretting 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:37.480 it exactly. Oh yeah, you will. You would regret it 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.600 even more. With Chernobyl. I had a really hard time. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.959 I watched the first one, and I was telling Molly 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.920 before we started recording that, as with anything that's been 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:51.240 so heralded by critics, um, the last example of this 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.640 being Horace and Pete, which, as everyone knows, you're right, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.160 yeah right, So I'm on the right side of history 0:11:58.200 --> 0:11:59.840 with that one. But it was hard because I was, like, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.800 everyone loves it, let's give it a shot. And I 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.920 know that there have been a bunch of articles explaining 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.679 why none of the actors are using Russian accents, um, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.760 but I have a problem with it. I I it's 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:17.360 like a mental block using British accents that will not 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.600 use they and and it was a decision that makes 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.760 sense because it came off as kind of cartoonish. It 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.800 was distracting when they were trying the Russian accents. Or 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.680 you could just have them have like regular Russian acts. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.000 I mean, you could have us Russian accented English. It 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.959 just to me, it was like so so strange, and 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.320 it took me out of it and I just couldn't 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.440 plow forth. I know that eventually that's the kind of 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:46.360 thing that you get used to you. The finale apparently 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.760 leans really heavy into the kind of Russia Gate. No. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.000 I haven't seen the finale yet, but your friend Sarah 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.160 was saying that, and I could see how it would 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.640 go that way. I mean, it's it's it's very it's 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.680 like on the nose from them. Maybe we'll get to 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.600 it later at some point. The point is that a 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.480 lot of people have been into Chernobyl, so much so 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.439 that there is now an influx of tourism at Chernobyl, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:17.480 people planning exotic holidays to side of a giant Yeah, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.959 a side of a giant nuclear accident. Um. And we 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.520 happened to know somebody who did go to Chernobyl as 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.680 a tourist before it was cool, just before. She was 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:35.079 a trendsetter before the show made it spike in popularity. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:40.520 And luckily she called it in with some a tale, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:45.679 a tale from the ground. This is a I'm a 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.560 film critic on an odal sense of the beloved back behind. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.840 And I'm going to tell you guys about the time 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.520 I took a day told to share Noble. This was 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.199 in two thousand and sixteen. It was two years after 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.320 Ukraine had their one revolution where like open Hunka people 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.840 got killed. And let me just start by giving like 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.719 the quickest most passionate shout out to visiting Kias. It's 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.240 like if the city have to go, if you want 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.800 to go to Chernoble and you have is the greatest 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.120 pus I've ever been on planet, by the way, like 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.240 you meet um right outside the squarer at the point 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.320 of evolution was outside of a McDonald's. So I got 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:20.800 in the two of us with a bunch of people 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.920 and we drove a couple of hours out to tripat 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.120 to sharn Noble Wall that well that happens. And in 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.280 our tour of us, the guy who was this like 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.400 young teenager, really really really really lovely, always making these 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.560 jokes like he would playing an animals in Chernoble when 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.880 he would go you see that, Doug, I used to 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.440 be a chat that's the sort of humor. And he 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.480 was also playing stuff like the Shared Noble Diaries, that 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:50.560 horror film in the van, Oh my god, you're driving snoble. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.320 So he walks around it out with like this guy 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.160 your counter kind of telling you wrote to stuff and 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.120 he tells you like basically, try to keep off the dirt, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.040 try to walk on this cument. You're more or less fine. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.960 And the kind of beings shows you're on the tour, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.880 or like you go to villages where there's a couple 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.160 of people still like stubborn by living in the woods. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.000 You go to this river where like the catfish in 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.080 the river which just drinking agin huge and my friends 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.760 I went with my best friend Eva Anderson, and she 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.560 has to bring all the bars. She was like feeding 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.920 the nuclear catfish ranola bars and they're just sucking, fighting 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.920 and killing for it um. And then you kind of 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.880 realize as you're going through that, Yeah, like the true 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.040 horror of cher Noble, isn't that a bunch of people 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.040 did in the explosion, which, to be honest, I kind 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.840 of dumb. I always thought that's how it was until 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.920 I was actually there, and you kind of getting annoyed 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.520 a little bit because there's all these artful stagings where photographs. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.880 Either you go to like the old kindergarten and there's 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.000 all these bump beds and like artful blackened daity dolls 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.800 left on these bump beds, and you're like, actually, kids 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.280 didn't really sleep here. Honestly, it didn't really happen because 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.200 the explosion happened before the town took off. You're a 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.040 little bit like, al right, guys, you know, and it's 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.120 very instagram summer, but they just kind of letting, like 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.960 in the old schools and the old buildings of Pripyat, 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.920 where you're like, I walked into a gym and there 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.200 are all these glass bricks in the gymnasium and trip 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.640 yet that was destroyed and to get the picture of 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.880 his glass bricks, I climbed through like a broken shot. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.960 I guess my question to you the night called listeners 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.160 is what is the weirdest place that you have been? 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.960 And secondary what'd you go back? I'm gonna say that 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.600 really quick. Kazakhstan, I don't know Romans to be seen. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.200 I would buy an apartment there for to die. Okay, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.560 where do I go? WHOA? Amy? That was such a 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.160 good night call. Thank you so us on a journey. Um, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.240 thank you so much, Amy for calling in. Amy's a 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.640 great film critic. She has a couple of podcasts. She 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.320 hosts a podcast called Zoom. She also hosts a podcast 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:53.480 called Unspoiled on Earwolves. So she's a she's a power podcaster. Um, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.800 but you're a great adventurer. Well she gets to go 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.640 the thing about like she goes on all these really 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:04.480 ex aotic um film festival trips, which is I think 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.240 part of being uh like a freelance critic. Like I 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.159 couldn't go to a lot of these places where they 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.200 send you there and they like give you the trip 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.280 and everything. But like Amy would always take him up 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.080 on it. I was always so jealous because I was like, man, 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.000 that's like, so's such a cool way to see the 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.760 world as by going to the film festivals of the 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.080 world and like crazy out of the way places that 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.159 you would never also goes places just not for film festivals. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.200 Oh yeah, for fun. She is the most adventurous person 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.240 I've ever known, which is why it was not super 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.040 surprising she went to Chernobyl. Can I just jump in 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.160 really fast to remind you guys that I wrote about 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.520 the Chernobyl Diaries for grant Land. It was like I 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.160 was nine months pregnant and they were like, go see 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.080 the Chernobyl Diaries and I was like, okay. So it 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.680 was horrible. It was totally bleak and boring and depressing 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.439 and awful, and I was so nervous I was going 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.080 to go into labor and that that would somehow I 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.879 call her my child's whole life. But instead I was 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.600 very overdue and my mom saw a raised her head 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.879 while she was pregnant with me. Oh, of course a 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:14.320 monstol ran ron the film Um Anyway, so Amy wanted 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.280 to know what were the most uh, I guess what's 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:24.719 the word you would use disturbing. Maybe dystopian, Yeah, like 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:30.560 maybe not exactly a place that feels like a Bucolic getaway. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.720 It's interesting what she was saying to that they staged 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.520 the area to be stor what you imagine from just stupid. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.480 Like that's a little disappointing to me. Wait, but I 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.680 want to know what's the what's the most dystopian or 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:47.360 weirdest place you guys have been and when you go back. Um, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:52.280 I've been to Pompeii. UM. I think though, actually like 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.000 the most sort of intriguing place or that it was 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.119 all during the same trip and long trip to Italy 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.359 when I was in high school. Um is like the 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.280 part of Rome that was like Muslini's neighborhood, like the 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:09.679 super brutalist um like Italo futurist um neighborhood, where like 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.480 all of them just have this total like it's I mean, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.280 it's like I feel, like I said this before, a 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.000 fascist architecture is like a problematic fave of mine. I like, 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.159 I'm sorry, I can feel like brutalism. I was just 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:23.840 talking about fascism is camp it is and I was 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.359 just saying, like they this is so to make to 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.640 take it really serious for a second. But people staging 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:35.080 like fun influence or photos or whatever in a place 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.000 that was like destroyed by something really fucked up or 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.080 like had something really fucked up happened. It feels like 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.080 we're so beyond the pale with that already. You know, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.080 like it's going to happen anyway, and that's like if 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.880 it helps bring tourism back to this area that's been 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:55.120 so fucked over. But I don't know how tourism is, well, yeah, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.639 what what the doctor orders. But but the thing about 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.560 the a you are, which is the neighborhood and the 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.120 Oscars of Rome, is like it's just a normal neighborhood. 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.199 It's just like the most bizarre landscape to put like, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.080 I mean, it still has like you know, people have 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.639 like laundry lines hanging out their windows, and it's just 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.560 like normal, except all the buildings look like they were 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.160 rendered in a computer. Um so this is a really 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.800 weird clash of textures and stuff that I think is 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.640 like kind of that's how I feel about those weird 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.840 condo blocks they put everywhere here. Now, I'm just like, oh, 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:33.000 fascist brutalism, fascist twee brutalism, and like the paint will 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:34.960 wear off and then it'll just be brutalism. Can I 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.240 tell you the worst place I've ever been? Worst? I 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:42.439 think I've talked about this before is Onion Town. Yeah, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.119 it's in Duchess County, I think, um New York. And 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.440 it is a community of people who are very hostile 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.920 to outsiders. So it's like the place from making a murderer. 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.680 It's like, yes, but then there was there was someone 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.920 went in and took a video driving through Onion Town 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.840 and then visitors were attacked and stuff that I grew 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.680 up not far. Yeah, that was the scariest place and 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.119 I would never go back because also because like I 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:06.960 don't want to. I feel bad for them. I don't 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.880 want to get in a chainsaw maska an Onion Town 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.119 Chainsaw massacre. I thought you were talking about that place. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.679 That town like about an hour outside of l A. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.879 That like smells horrible, but it's where all the onions 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.440 come from. Oh, I don't know about that. What it's 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.199 on the in the five I'm forgetting. I'm blanking on 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.160 the name. But it's like by Los Banos. It's like 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:31.320 it smells terrible. It smells like cou shit like that. 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.840 Oh yeah, Molly, what was your terrible place? My it's 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:40.119 not terrible. I mean it is terrible, but it's also 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.480 like interesting weird. Uh. Which is jazz Land, which I 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.720 also I think wrote about for Grantland once. It was 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.600 where they filmed Jurassic World. But it's an abandoned six 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:54.679 flags in New Orleans that got destroyed by Hurricane Katrina 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.360 and then just went back to nature, so it's totally 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.680 just a swa ump now and it is really it's 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.960 like sort of the things you see in the Churnable pictures. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.000 It's like a giant fire stroll with like you know, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.720 vines growing all over it. Um. But they started using 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.280 it for filming because they filmed so uch stuff in 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:18.399 Louisiana now and they, I guess make it possible to 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.040 film there, but it still seems terrifying to me because 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:25.720 it's literally covered in snakes and alligators. You know. Yeah, 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.239 the abandoned theme park thing is like good, like the 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:33.240 Spree Park in Berlin. Yeah, there was like also on 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.240 a list. We talked about the dome homes last week. 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:36.800 That was like on a list, But I found that 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:38.439 on a list that also had the Spree Park on 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.359 it because it's like it's like beautiful doctor and it's 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.480 like and like also it got shut down because the 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.520 owners like tried to smuggle like some insane amount of 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.000 cocaine into Germany or it's like one of these insane stories. 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.720 I think things like that. It gives you a glimpse 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.280 of the post human future. And that's why it's not 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.680 just depressing, because you're like, oh, actually, like things grew 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:05.200 back here and uh yeah, the six flags yesterday here 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:11.080 in Los Angeles almost fire um is suddenly very very hot. 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.280 It became likerees, can I tell you guys briefly about 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.520 a Chernobyl conspiracy that I learned about from Amy who 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.639 learned about it from the film festival. So there's a 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.480 thing in the Chernobyl area in the city that I 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:29.240 can't say the name of correctly that is like a 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:34.359 giant radio transmitter in the you know water body of 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.040 water um that was supposed to either send out or 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:42.359 block like secret radio signals for the Russians um. And 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:46.160 it's called the Russian Woodpecker by everybody who I don't 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.359 know if that was the nickname they were given or 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:52.200 if it's a colloquialism. But there is a conpiracy theory 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:56.560