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Speaker 1: Oh, what are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm cleaning out the garage.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do with that big pilot

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Speaker 4: That's my car, ron An Aiuan. You know what kind

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Speaker 4: of shape is the vehicle in. It's it's you know

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Speaker 4: when we are heading into fall and then winter and

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Speaker 4: vehicle been checked out? It's even if it's a newer vehicle,

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Speaker 4: pill the Car Doctor. When you were checking the fluid

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Speaker 4: level to see if it was too high or too low,

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Speaker 4: the engine was running correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to have an auto and rip a

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Speaker 5: nickel and have a hot in autumn.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananium the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 4: Are open, but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 4: at eight five five five six ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Hundred and now he.

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Speaker 1: Yers running.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the hardest things I do is

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Speaker 4: try to convey to you what goes on in a

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Speaker 4: repair shop during the course of the week. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's part of why you're here. I think part

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Speaker 4: of why you're here is it's it's I'm gonna use

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Speaker 4: the word drama, but I don't think drama is the

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Speaker 4: right word. It's it's what is it like to be

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Speaker 4: a mechanic? What is it like to try and fix

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Speaker 4: cars in this modern age? And you know, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of there's a lot of words like it's you know, difficult,

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Speaker 4: you know, frustrating, you know, exciting, depressing, There's just there's

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Speaker 4: just like a wide range of emotion and scale. I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about three cars this week that came

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Speaker 4: the variety of what we're up against. And if we're

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Speaker 4: if the professionals are having degrees of difficulty for a

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Speaker 4: variety of reasons, repairing the car, you don't stand a chance.

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Speaker 4: And that tells you the state of the automobile industry

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Speaker 4: in trying to repair things. Wait to know, for Mercury

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Speaker 4: Grand Marquis this week, simple enough repair. Now, these cars

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Speaker 4: had rear air bladders, rare air springs, you know, big

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Speaker 4: giant rubber balls or rubber balloons that the rear suspension

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Speaker 4: rode on. Well they're now obsolete. Gee, what a surprise.

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Speaker 4: And you know, why wouldn't we think that? And to

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Speaker 4: show you the ridiculousness of it. When we were trying

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Speaker 4: of you need to tell us what the calibration of

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Speaker 4: the air spring is. Huh? And you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: don't all air springs ride the same. It's a bladder

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Speaker 4: with air in it? What the air comes from a

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Speaker 4: better part of the country than the other car? Like,

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Speaker 4: I didn't understand the question, but Ford was very specific.

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Speaker 4: There was a there was a marking or a part

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Speaker 4: what the Princess from the Princess in the p Nursery

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Speaker 4: rhyme was going to be driving this car that you

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Speaker 4: you people crazy? So we couldn't get forward parts. The

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Speaker 4: with aftermarket parts, so we found a coil spring conversion

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Speaker 4: kit which I prefer to do on the older vehicles

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Speaker 4: because the sheer cost savings alone, and you know, not

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Speaker 4: you've got solenoids, you've got an air ride compressor, and

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Speaker 4: it's all obsolete. None of it exists, So why would

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Speaker 4: out that stands out is a sixteen to FOURD escape

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Speaker 4: and it had a P fourteen fifty fault code of

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Speaker 4: P fourteen fifty is related to the evaporative emission system.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm gonna I am We are doing

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Speaker 4: But you know one of the T shirts that we're

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Speaker 4: be because an engineer designed it that way. A P

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Speaker 4: fourteen fifties code description is that the scan tool cannot

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Speaker 4: see a vacuum rise. In other words, they don't they

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Speaker 4: Can we really? Turns out that this sixteen escape had

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Speaker 4: the traditional bad canister perge valve. The canister perge valve

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Speaker 4: give you the ability to close or operate both purge

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Speaker 4: unplug the purge valve up front, start the car, and

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Speaker 4: talked about this front door back door perge valve, vent valve,

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Speaker 4: watched the system go into a vacuum state, and we

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Speaker 4: watched immediate drop in fuel tank pressure. Sensors so we

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Speaker 4: knew that the purge valve is bypassing because it was

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Speaker 4: A perge valve is normally closed, driven open by the PCM.

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Speaker 4: So we knew that was bid, but just it got

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Speaker 4: me the language. The language was so undefining of what

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Speaker 4: we're looking for, just no thought process there. The last

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Speaker 4: one's the best. We had an four Lincoln town Car.

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Speaker 4: How many of those cars were made and how many

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Speaker 4: I think a gazillion comes to mind. And it had

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Speaker 4: a problem with the driver's door module, the driver door

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Speaker 4: jar warning message and it had a bad door jar module. Well,

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Speaker 4: the door jar module is obsolete now the message isn't

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a wire we could snip, or a

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Speaker 4: especially if it's parked next to my house. I'd go

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Speaker 4: can hold the key fobs to program the fops. Because

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Speaker 4: that was the problem. Once we changed the module, we

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Speaker 4: The vehicle was fixed at that point, couldn't get the

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Speaker 4: I went through some of the bag of tricks. I

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Speaker 4: ended up calling up Opus Opus IVS. And here's why

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Speaker 4: it just comes in handy. I mean, it's just for

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Speaker 4: those for those odd moments when you just can't get

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Speaker 4: other way to go. And Chris is absolutely one of

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Speaker 4: the best forward texts, one of the best texts I've

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's anyone better. And we were able

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Speaker 4: All right, he could see me when I hit the

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Speaker 4: we were able to prove that that is a bad

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Speaker 4: used module. You know, the extremes you have to go

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Speaker 4: about that. It's not necessarily a failure. It was just

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Speaker 4: And you know, this is going to be something that

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Speaker 4: hot Rod, whatever, anything computer driven in fifteen years, you're

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Speaker 4: not going to get parts for it. You're not going

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Speaker 4: to have the electronics to fill that vehicle up. And

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Speaker 4: I don't care what it is. I don't care what

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Speaker 4: a combination of both. It's just not going to be there,

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Speaker 4: and we're already seeing it in older vehicles. We're seeing

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Speaker 4: bring back the horse. It doesn't paint the uh doesn't

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Speaker 4: And matter of fact, that had to because we're getting

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Speaker 4: we we did finally come to a conclusion about T shirts,

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Speaker 4: car doctor merchandise. We know you guys have been asking.

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Speaker 4: You know, so far we've got on the list list,

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Speaker 4: coffee cups, hoodies, you know, T shirts. Obviously somebody keeps

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Speaker 4: writing it about mass pads. Somebody wants a car doctor calendar,

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Speaker 4: I said, I said, as long as I don't have

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Speaker 4: to put Tom in one of the pictures wearing only

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Speaker 4: a bathrobe, I think that would be scary for America.

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Speaker 4: But maybe shots of the shop or maybe shots of cars.

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Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure what that would be. But if

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Speaker 4: you've got an idea, if you've got something you want

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Speaker 4: to see in the way of merchandise, something you're thinking

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Speaker 4: somebody wants, by all means, shoot us an email Ron

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Speaker 4: at cardoctorshow dot com. We hope to have that merchandise

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Speaker 4: store open up online by the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: They're working on it now to development. Does the Nian

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Speaker 4: underwear show up? You know, think of it? Tom, Ron

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Speaker 4: and Inian in various stages of yeah, listen, you know what, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I just had lunch. There's a reason I'm on radio

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Speaker 4: ronnin Aie and the Car Doctor. We're back right after this.

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Speaker 1: Need advice on how to maintain that classic gto Ron

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Speaker 1: is the guy eight five to five five six zero

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Speaker 4: Here's Ron. Hey, let's go over and talk to Lewis

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Speaker 4: and Iowa Lewis, Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can

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Speaker 4: he help her?

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon. I'd like to have you give a dissertation

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Speaker 5: on old twenty W oil versus five W thirty. What

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Speaker 5: are your feelings on those oils?

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Speaker 4: I think they both serve a purpose? Are we talking

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Speaker 5: For Nissan vehicles? According to an owner's manual for twenty

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Speaker 4: Well, I think they're wrong. I see this.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know what lewis. I see this quite often,

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Speaker 5: Right, That's what they're doing, right, John, Yep.

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Speaker 4: I see this. I see this a lot of times.

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Speaker 4: You know it's Look, the math is simple, and I

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Speaker 4: Go look at what a price of oil is selling for.

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Speaker 4: And in your case, a price of zero twenty synthetic

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Speaker 4: All right, through the math, plus a filter, you've probably

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Speaker 4: any underhood fluids, solvents, cleaners, et cetera. You've got forty

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Speaker 4: What does that cost? An oil change on a minimum

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Speaker 4: That dealership is actually going against the manufacturer's recommendations. And

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Speaker 4: I don't understand how they get away with it. What

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Speaker 5: And came out with a bulletin saying five W thirty

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Speaker 4: Right, five thirty synthetic or five thirty conventional.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, Well, don't be sure. Read the bulletin all right,

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Speaker 4: you know, now, if they're changing viscosity, they're changing viscosity

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Speaker 4: I sincerely doubt that it says conventional. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 5: Sure it's conventional, But we traded the car yesterday. We

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Speaker 4: But I.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell a little bit more on the story.

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Speaker 5: We took delivery on nine twenty eight. I looked on

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Speaker 5: the service records here they're using five W twenty looked

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Speaker 5: He asked one of the attendants if he would buy

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Speaker 5: that Nissan Rogue with only about one hundred and two thousand.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a different story, right, that's unrelated to oil.

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Speaker 5: Right it sure is. Yeah, that's High Crest Dealership in

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Speaker 5: very good used cars. They gave me a tremendous trade

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Speaker 4: Let me point this out, Lewis. Sometimes manufacturers will change viscosities.

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Speaker 4: They will, but the bulletin will be very explicit under

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Speaker 4: And let me point this out too, Just because the

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Speaker 4: on Nissan. Oils today are very very specific as per manufacturer.

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Speaker 4: If the manufacturer is making that specificity requirement, the dealer

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Speaker 4: And I question whether or not if a dealer does

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Speaker 5: Hope, soul Boy. But what brand oil do you recommend

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Speaker 5: ron for sin take, I've been using cash for all

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Speaker 5: three years, Sintech.

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Speaker 4: I have no problem with Castro, I have no problem

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Speaker 4: All right, sir, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, well, thank you for the wonderful information. We sure

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Speaker 4: We're happy, We're happy to be there for you, Lewis.

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Speaker 4: You're very welcome. You have a good rest of the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's don't assume that when you're going

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Speaker 4: fluids today. Trans fluids are different, oils are different, break

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Speaker 4: I'm running any in the car doctor. I'll be back

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Speaker 4: any of the car doctor here at eight five five

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Speaker 4: five six nine nine zero zero. Let's go over and

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Speaker 4: talk to Let's go to Joe and Maine. Joe, Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Sir, Yes, sir, we talked about I don't know between

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Speaker 3: But he turned out to be a good guy. Last week,

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Speaker 4: Of the oil thing, the transdipstick. Louise with her AMC

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I had to get an old b

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Speaker 3: those set appliers, put it on right into the plastic.

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Speaker 3: He pushed it in. I did it about six or

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Speaker 4: Well. I think her problem is she she wants to

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Speaker 3: It's that hot to pull out, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I think what happened in her case is I think

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Speaker 4: Because sometimes the end of the dipstick tube, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I've been listening for years and years. I come

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you, sir. I'm glad to be here for

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Speaker 3: That was Uh, You've got longevity, man, man and everybody

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It's a pleasure, sir. You'll be well. You

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Speaker 4: You're welcome. I want to talk about George, who sent

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Speaker 4: They found that cylinder number three rod bearing had failed.

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Speaker 4: It was setting codes for timing GDS. Live data showed

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Speaker 4: you know what, George, and for everybody else in George

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Speaker 4: I've sent George a copy of NHTSA recall bulletin twenty

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Speaker 4: I want to beat up a dealer. No, I don't

433
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Speaker 4: want to beat up any garage. That's not my purpose,

434
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Speaker 4: all right. My purpose is not to sit here and

435
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Speaker 4: complain about the way cars are getting fixed. My purpose

436
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Speaker 4: is to try and help garages fix cars at a

437
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Speaker 4: better level and deal with everybody and explain the process.

438
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Speaker 4: If you have this issue, if you've got if you've

439
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Speaker 4: got a Hyundai in the last ten twelve years, and

440
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Speaker 4: you know when it seems like the sweet spot starts

441
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Speaker 4: right around the seventy eighty thousand mile mark. I've seen

442
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Speaker 4: it as early as the fifty to sixty thousand mile mark,

443
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: but not as common. And you've got engine noise, You've

444
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: got to check engine light and it's got a it

445
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Speaker 4: has a potential of a P thirteen sixty fault code.

446
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's very well could be under warranty, all right,

447
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: it very well could be under warranty. It will it will.

448
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Speaker 4: You know, if you get out to NHTSA dot gov

449
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Speaker 4: that's the government website, NHTSA dot gov and type in

450
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Speaker 4: your VIN and this is for any vehicle, but you

451
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Speaker 4: know we're talking about Hyundai's here. You type in that

452
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Speaker 4: seventeen digit VIN at NHTSA dot gov where it says

453
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Speaker 4: you know VIN Recall notice information, any recalls that are

454
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Speaker 4: active on that vehicle will come up. And I suggested

455
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Speaker 4: George do that, I said, to a copy of it,

456
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Speaker 4: And I hope, I hope his son gets an engine,

457
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: because that's what should happen. You know, being in business,

458
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Speaker 4: I don't care what you do, all right, being in business,

459
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Speaker 4: how can I explain this isn't about the home run.

460
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Speaker 4: A lot of baseball teams get to the World Series

461
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Speaker 4: by hitting three hundred ball and sometimes that's all it

462
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Speaker 4: takes to make you a winner. And I don't understand

463
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Speaker 4: why if there is an extended warranty, why if there

464
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Speaker 4: is a recall, why if there is a way to

465
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Speaker 4: make a customer happy, that we don't take advantage of it?

466
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Speaker 4: And it just doesn't make any sense to me. You

467
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Speaker 4: know now I realize, you know what the coin goes

468
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Speaker 4: both ways. There are people that are really frustrating to

469
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Speaker 4: deal with. There are some people that are unreasonable and

470
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Speaker 4: they's just expect too much, and yeah, I get that,

471
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: you know what those are the people that you have

472
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 4: to either explain it to them and they listen or

473
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 4: get out you. It's just that simple. But you know,

474
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: the point of this becomes that if it doesn't make sense,

475
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 4: do a little digging. And you know, if it's not

476
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: a hun day and you've got an engine problem at

477
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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand miles, it would behoove you to look

478
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Speaker 4: at NHTSA dot gov to see if there's any recoll notices.

479
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: It would behoove you to call the manufacturer and say, hey,

480
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Speaker 4: I've got brand Ex automobile. It's got ninety thousand miles

481
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: on it. The engine failed. Is this a common pattern failure?

482
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 4: Is or anything you're aware of? You know, I hate

483
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Speaker 4: to say it like this because it puts dealers in

484
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Speaker 4: a bad light, but you know what, every repair shop

485
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Speaker 4: is always under the microscope, so I think they're used

486
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Speaker 4: to it, you know, because independence dealers they're all. They

487
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Speaker 4: can all be problematic. You know, sometimes they don't provide

488
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Speaker 4: the most accurate and up to date information, and sometimes

489
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 4: that person in service had a bad day or had

490
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Speaker 4: a bad night, and it reflects upon their work that

491
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Speaker 4: next day, and they're not They're not the be all

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Speaker 4: and end all. It's the answer is no the first

493
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Speaker 4: time doesn't mean it's no every time, and it behooves

494
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Speaker 4: you to do a little bit of service and investigation.

495
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Speaker 4: So I sent George that information. George, if you're listening,

496
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Speaker 4: I hope it worked out for you, babe, And I

497
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Speaker 4: hope your son gets the engine that he from the

498
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Speaker 4: and Virginia. Dave, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How

515
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Speaker 4: can I help?

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Speaker 2: Oh? But thanks for taking my car?

517
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Speaker 5: Ron.

518
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: I have a twenty twelve eighty three point two leader

519
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: the six sixty transmissions. My issue is when I shift

520
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: from neutral to drive, if the transmission is hot, heel

521
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: like somebody that kicked me in the back of the seat.

522
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: Only only in drive, not in reverse.

523
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Not in reverse on the in drive I'm going to

524
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: when the engine is hot, our transmission is hot.

525
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: Okay, and you feel a clunk like you feel it

526
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: in the seat of your pants.

527
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, all right.

528
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 4: At what sort of work anybody to try to diagnose

529
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: or look at anything on this yet?

530
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: Uh?

531
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Speaker 4: No, okay. You know, first of all, I don't know

532
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: that this will apply because it's in it's an older bulletin,

533
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: but they did have one that came out back good

534
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 4: ten years ago, somewhere around thirteen or fourteen Thomas Jefferson

535
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: two seven four A five TJ two seven four A five.

536
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: It talked about problems with drive shafts, center support bearings,

537
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: and clamps. Now that was for the nineties, but I

538
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 4: believe there was also a version of that for the

539
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: eighty as well. So just you might want to read

540
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Speaker 4: it if you can get your hands on it. It references

541
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: things to look for and look at specifically, is this

542
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 4: a is this a two piece drive scheft with a

543
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: center support bearing.

544
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: That I don't know?

545
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: Okay, take a look at that. Could the center support

546
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: be failing? It's interesting that it doesn't do it, and

547
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 4: let me know. That was my next question. It's you know,

548
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to make the assumption this is front

549
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: wheel drive, all wheel drive. This is front wheel drive. Okay,

550
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: then that bulletin will not apply, all right, So then

551
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: we're into if it's only in drive and not revert.

552
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: Then I'm going to tell you to take a very

553
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: close look at all the engine mounts. There's two, and

554
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: the trans mount the rear trans support all right, and

555
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: if they're solid and the easiest way is if you

556
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: power break it and drive. Have somebody watch the engine,

557
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: power break it in reverse? Have someone watched the engine,

558
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: et cetera. Obviously parking break on be safe chalk wheels.

559
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: You know, we're standing in front of a loaded car,

560
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: you know, bringing it up against speed. You know, does

561
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: the engine or transmission popper move around? You know when

562
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: that clunk happens, you'll be able to see something. You know,

563
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: If mounts turn out to be okay, there are no

564
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: axle faults, then I've got to start to think. Do

565
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: I have an internal trans problem? Is line pressure too high?

566
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: Is the initial engagement too high that it's shocking the

567
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: system and it's just that harsh bang, and there's you know,

568
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: short of short of doing internal trans repair, there may

569
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Speaker 4: not be much you can do with it. How many

570
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: miles are on.

571
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: This one, It's not a lot. I bought the car.

572
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: I bought it in twenty nine with one hundred streets

573
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: that was not right. Yeah, and it shifts, It shifts perfectly.

574
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: I've never changed the fluid now because I did check

575
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: the in the manual it says on the change of

576
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: fluid if it's on the driven on the adverse conditions,

577
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Speaker 2: it's right.

578
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Speaker 3: Car.

579
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Speaker 2: She just drives it from work.

580
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Speaker 4: Right right, well, and I guarantee you by now the

581
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: fluid's worn out. I don't know that changing fluid is

582
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Speaker 4: going to eliminate a clunk. Typically a fluid A characteristic

583
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Speaker 4: of fluid deprivation or fluid failure is I start to

584
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: hear the words chatter, shudder, chuggle. You know that you're

585
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: driving along and as it shifts gears, as the converter

586
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: locks into overdrive, and if it's not doing any of that,

587
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, would it pay to change the fluid. It

588
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: depends if the mounts turn out to be the issue,

589
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: and putting mounts in this solves the problem. You might

590
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: want to consider doing fluid just solely from the purpose

591
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: of longevity, because you don't want to see the price

592
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: tag on a transmission for that car. It'll it'll it's

593
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: like a it's like a telephone number, you know, in

594
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: terms of cost. So, but you got to take a

595
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: look at those things and then we can kind of

596
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: build it out from there.

597
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Sure, if we do to sid at some point

598
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: do the fluid chain, do you recommend flush or change?

599
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, the fact that this is a higher mileage vehicle

600
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: I always look at I always look at how much

601
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: fluid am I going to get out? Based on the trends.

602
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: I don't keep those numbers in my head. I always

603
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: look them up. If it's all we'll talk general numbers.

604
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: If it's a twelve court system and I'm going to

605
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: get six courts out by doing a drain and fill,

606
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: I'll do a drain and fill, all right, and I'll

607
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: come back in ten thousand miles and do another one.

608
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: I don't like well flush. Flush to me denotes pressure.

609
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: I don't like to use pressure in terms of dealing

610
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: with a transmission replace transmission service. If I can find

611
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 4: a machine that will do a fluid exchange, something like

612
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: the Mala machine from the folks at Mala, where it's

613
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: just a simple one for one court replacement, Yeah great,

614
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: let's do a fluid exchange. You know, the concern is

615
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: and here's where you roll the dice. Okay. You know,

616
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: if you're standing at the tables in Vegas, how many

617
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: times do you go back? If you're on a winning streak,

618
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 4: you know, do you roll the dice and get all

619
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: the contaminated fluid out or do you do it in

620
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: two steps? The two steps may cost you more, but

621
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: it gives you a greater chance of survival. I'm very

622
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: conservative in my approach there, David, as you well know.

623
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Speaker 4: So all right, sir, appreciate it.

624
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much.

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00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: You're very welcome. You have a great rest of the day.

626
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Speaker 2: Have a great day.

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Speaker 4: They do use network topology, and I think it's a

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Speaker 4: doesn't what vehicle doesn't require that. But the way Old

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Speaker 4: works for All Data. It doesn't say, but they kind

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Speaker 4: And you'll find that. Get out to alldata dot com

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Speaker 4: and look it up under Resources and the slatest issue

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Speaker 4: of All Data. There's always good stuff there. I like

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Speaker 4: on because we're closing, but and that's why I did

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Speaker 4: we'll see. We're working on a calendar and merchandising folks.

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Speaker 4: Till the next time, I'm ron an any and the

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