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Speaker 1: in Vegas. Appreciate you guys. Thanks Eric. Alright, great to

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Speaker 1: chat with THEREK call Goo there and we're both excited

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Speaker 1: to get out to Vegas for the Shrine Bowl. But Bucky,

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Speaker 1: you get a little bonus coverage on all in the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game circuit. Going to be at the nflp

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Speaker 1: A Collegiate Bowl from the Rose Bowl this Saturday as well,

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Speaker 1: So you just get warmed up for us, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just getting warmed up, like, uh, game ready, getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the Thursday fron time deal that we're doing with

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Speaker 1: the East Wards round. But it should be fun. Like

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Speaker 1: we're completely beginning to be immersed in all things the draft,

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Speaker 1: and so even though we're a little distracted by the

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Speaker 1: divisional round and in the championship rounds, our eyes are

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Speaker 1: becoming Yeah, it's the best time of the year, right,

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Speaker 1: we get the best football and then we start looking

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Speaker 1: ahead of the draft, which of course is is what

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Speaker 1: we love so much. All right, so it's all Star

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Speaker 1: game season, but it's also, of course mock draft season

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Speaker 1: and absolutely s a Z and an end. Mock draft

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Speaker 1: season is upon us, both you and d J, who

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Speaker 1: has just decided to skip out on today's podcast. That's fine, um,

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Speaker 1: and you got have your first mock draft out one

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Speaker 1: point oh, and both of you guys are going. Evan

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Speaker 1: Neil from Alabama the offensive tackle to the Jaguars at

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Speaker 1: number one. Protect the quarterback, Protect the quarterback, Protect the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Can I say it enough? Protect the quarterback? Right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what we're talking about here with Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: supports the QB. Yeah. Absolutely. Now, I think the decision

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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars is an interesting one, right because it

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Speaker 1: has to be someone on the front line. It can

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Speaker 1: be offensive line, defensive line, wherever they want to go.

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Speaker 1: But when I think about this pick, Evan Neil is

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Speaker 1: to pick for me initially, but look, man, I can

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Speaker 1: Quan is certainly going to be in the conversation because

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Speaker 1: these talented So it really comes down to go into

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Speaker 1: the ice cream shop in the side in which flavor

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Speaker 1: and this one I go at Evan Neel, but I

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Speaker 1: can easily see one the other way if they elect

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Speaker 1: to get up. The thing I'm curious about with with

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Speaker 1: Evan Neil is, you know, like think about tackles that

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Speaker 1: have gone number one, you know in the past, you know, like, gosh,

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Speaker 1: is it we have to go all the way back

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Speaker 1: to Eric Fisher the last time we've had my tackle

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Speaker 1: go one overalls thinking about like, you know, some of

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Speaker 1: the top guys from from years past, you know that

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Speaker 1: went the big tackle draft of two years ago. We

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Speaker 1: had Andrew Thomas, we had uh, you know, Tristan Worth's, uh,

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Speaker 1: Edric Quills. Does Neil fit into that group its terms

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Speaker 1: of in terms of talent coming out? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think, look, he's pretty clean as a prospect,

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Speaker 1: and you think about the ability to be able to

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Speaker 1: run it. He's solid in past protection. He has the

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Speaker 1: physicality and the nastiness that you want, uh if he

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Speaker 1: has a Jackson or Jaguars. And even though they're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out who is going to be the coach,

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Speaker 1: I know that the priority is protecting the franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And there are two ways to do it. One make

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Speaker 1: sure that he doesn't get hit on pass attempts. The

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Speaker 1: other way is to run it so now you can

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Speaker 1: throw it comfortably off play acts. Yeah, and then you know, look,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a huge draft. Um, you know

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Speaker 1: for the Jets and the Giants. Both these got both

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Speaker 1: these teams have two picks in the top ten. I

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Speaker 1: mean for the Giants, who got two in the top seven.

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Speaker 1: You've got him going with Charles cross On a Mississippi

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Speaker 1: state at five, and then two picks later, major upside

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Speaker 1: and potential with the edge rusher from Michigan, David A. Jabo,

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Speaker 1: who DJ is called one of the more polarizing players.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of teams have been really high, a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams a little little concerned based on the

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Speaker 1: one year of production. Really yeah. So now here we

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Speaker 1: go with the New York Johnson, I'm thinking, um, Joe Shane,

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Speaker 1: the new general manager for the Giants. He and I

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Speaker 1: used to sit together and Carolina Panthers meetings, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that we're like minded, but I do know

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Speaker 1: in listening to Joe at his presser, he talked about

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Speaker 1: the trenches and making sure that you take care of

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And so when I think about that,

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Speaker 1: the first thing it's about Daniel Jones and so Charles

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Speaker 1: Cross from Mississippi State gives them a guy that can

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Speaker 1: protect the passer. But then the other part is when

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Speaker 1: you think about David and Jobo is Carolina, we went

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl with Julius Peppers and Mike Rucker

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Speaker 1: and being able to rush the passer. And so when

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Speaker 1: you think about twitch, I don't know if there's a

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Speaker 1: guy with more twitch in the draft than the Michigan standout.

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Speaker 1: And so think about how you want to build this

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Speaker 1: and how the Giants have been at their most success

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Speaker 1: school it's been when the d line has been able

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Speaker 1: to get after it. I think he kind of fits

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Speaker 1: the mode of the great pass rush that they've been

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Speaker 1: able to kind of cycle through the air throughout the years.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the ceiling for David A. Jabo might

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Speaker 1: even eclipse that of Aiden Hutchinson's. Who's you've got going

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Speaker 1: number two to the lines overall, but way higher floor

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Speaker 1: on Hutchinson. Just feel like he is he is dead

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Speaker 1: set on a absolutely rock solid tenure career plus in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, getting after the past year. You got him

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Speaker 1: going to the Lines at two, Capon Thibodeau right right

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Speaker 1: after to the Texans at number three. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks here, because you've got two in the top eleven.

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Speaker 1: First off the board, like DJ, Kenny Pickett goes to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos at number nine, which could change considering whether

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Speaker 1: elite heteran market. Yeah, then your Hackett maybe bringing his

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Speaker 1: favorite his favorite last year maybe maybe yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: New head coach Nathaniel Hackett for the Denver Broncos. Certainly

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Speaker 1: he's brought there to kind of figure out not only

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Speaker 1: how to get this team over the top, but to

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Speaker 1: find a quarterback that can compete with the great quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that are in that division. When you think about Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and then you have Derek Karr in the division,

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert. Right now, the Broncos are fourth in that division,

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Speaker 1: so they gotta figure out who that is. And so

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Speaker 1: in this my draft, I put Kenny Pickett. And when

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Speaker 1: you think about Kenney Pickett from Pitt, the one thing

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Speaker 1: that you like, and I think they're going to be

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Speaker 1: these comparisons even though I don't think their games are like.

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Speaker 1: The big explosion that he had his final season will

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Speaker 1: remind some people of the explosion that Joe Burrow had.

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Speaker 1: And then when you see the moxie and the fake

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Speaker 1: slide and the swag and all that other stuff is

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Speaker 1: going to benefit from those close comparisons. But really good

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Speaker 1: player solid probably has more mobility and athleticism than people

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Speaker 1: initially gave him credit. That is going to help because

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Speaker 1: as we see the game shifting in front of our

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Speaker 1: eyes at the quarterback position, Kenney Pickett is a guy

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Speaker 1: that can kind of give you some of that stuff

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Speaker 1: that we've seen on display throughout the postseason. Gotta be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that mobility. Kenny has it. He's

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Speaker 1: got the leadership, he's got the make your teammates better,

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Speaker 1: he's got the magnetism that you want from a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: all of it. Uh, Pickt has it in spades. And

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Speaker 1: then the next quarterback off the board comes two picks

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Speaker 1: later to Washington. I think we all agree Washington's quarterback,

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for this coming season is not on their

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Speaker 1: roster right now, although at least the starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the future. The franchise quarterback is not on the roster

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Speaker 1: at this point. But Matt Corral out of Old Miss,

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Speaker 1: absolute gun slinger and kind of has that mentality too,

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Speaker 1: could end up being that guy at number eleven bucks. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Washington football team is in a really tricky spot

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Speaker 1: because Tyler Hanneken is a solid player. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's good enough when we look at the way

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing the separation with the quarterbacks, and so

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Speaker 1: when I look at Matt Correll coming from Old Miss

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Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do not only a

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Speaker 1: guy that can kind of play on the script, but

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Speaker 1: the improvisational skills and the running ability, but it's the

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Speaker 1: moxi and the attitude and audited other stuff, because you

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Speaker 1: have to remember he stepped in an Old Miss program

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Speaker 1: that look was down at the bottom. He and Lankiff

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Speaker 1: and kind of get together. They kind of figured out.

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Speaker 1: They played well. They put up a bunch of points

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Speaker 1: when a ton of games to a bowl game, a

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Speaker 1: big bowl game. And so I just think for the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team, who as soon by the time we

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Speaker 1: finished up our time at the East West Rick, they

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Speaker 1: will have a new nickname, in new uniforms. They'll be

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Speaker 1: able to talk about that maybe be the Washington football team,

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Speaker 1: they may be the Washington Blanks, who knows, but we

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Speaker 1: will get a chance to see what it's doing. I

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Speaker 1: think for Matt Correll, I think he is the perfect

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Speaker 1: guy to run this offense because look, he can do

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Speaker 1: the same things that Tyler Heineken do. But I think

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Speaker 1: you're getting a much better package overall that the position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. And then just lastly, your first wide

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Speaker 1: receiver off the board comes in the top ten at

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Speaker 1: number ten, goes to the Jets from Ohio State. Not

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Speaker 1: Crystal Lave, but Garrett Wilson. Does he feel like wide

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Speaker 1: receiver one to you or did you just like the

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Speaker 1: fit with Wilson to the Jets. I think the fit

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Speaker 1: is important. I think the fit is really important when

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Speaker 1: you you're building out this wide receiver corps and you

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Speaker 1: think about what Zach Wilson needs. He kind of needs

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Speaker 1: to rock solid playmaker that can kind of make it happen.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at Ohio State, they have so

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Speaker 1: many weapons on the outside and some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that you really like and not eligible yet. But Garrett

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Speaker 1: Wilson is a playmaker and the differences between he and

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Speaker 1: Chris Alive are subtle. Like to me, Chris Alive puts

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Speaker 1: a lot of points in the paint. Might be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of the chain mover, but those things.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is steady, eddie and dependable, can do a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things for you. And when I think

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Speaker 1: about pairing Garrett Wilson with the lizare more, I like

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Speaker 1: that with you know, uh, the opportunity of what you

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Speaker 1: want to do in the passing end, I think gives

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Speaker 1: him a chance to be rocks out. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just gosh, Garrett, you know he's got speed for days. Right,

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Speaker 1: he can go. He can take you on the d ball.

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Speaker 1: But man, his first step too. If you're if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get up in press coverage, beware where he will

621
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Speaker 1: make you look silly, like like he did to that

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Speaker 1: Maryland corner on a goal line finger telling you, uh, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson can go and he's got Here's the thing

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Speaker 1: like about you know, high end receivers that you know

625
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Speaker 1: as a as a receiver, myself bucking and you know,

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Speaker 1: like I didn't have the um let's just say I

627
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Speaker 1: didn't have the luxury of being patient when I was

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Speaker 1: running routes. I was full speed the whole way right.

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Speaker 1: I had to go, go, go, just to get there

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Speaker 1: on time, you know what I mean. Garrett Wilson does not.

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Speaker 1: And you can see the change of speed and his routes,

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Speaker 1: and he uses it so well, and he's got such

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Speaker 1: high end speed that he can change gears in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a route and absolutely make a dB look silly.

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Speaker 1: It's really really like it's funny because I think like

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Speaker 1: we're always influenced by what happens in the previous year,

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Speaker 1: and I think the impact that we've seen from Jamaar

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Speaker 1: Chase uh, the explosion that we've seen from Cooper Cup,

639
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Speaker 1: and the impact that we're seeing on these wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about, oh, there's so many, you can

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Speaker 1: be hard to sit tight and say, oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're just wait when you see how many of these

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Speaker 1: guys are making big impacts on the biggest stage there.

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Speaker 1: It is Bucky Brooks's mock draft one point oh, look

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Speaker 1: at the first eleven picks. For the rest of Bucky

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Speaker 1: Mock Draft, you can check them out NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: Uh slash I don't know, Try Bucky Brooks. Try mock draft.

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Speaker 1: It's on NFL dot Com. You won't have to look

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Speaker 1: too hard to find it, uh, And we'll be right

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Speaker 1: back to wrap up this edition of Move the Sticks

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Speaker 1: after this, all right, that's gonna do it for this

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Speaker 1: episode of Move the Sticks. Big thank you to Eric gualco,

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Speaker 1: director of Football ops and player Personnel for the East

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Speaker 1: West Shrine Bowl, for joining us here with his look

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Speaker 1: at some of the best prospects at that game that

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Speaker 1: we will see and you can to live on NFL

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Speaker 1: Network Thursday, February three, eight pm Eastern Time Prime Time reminder,

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Speaker 1: will have uh some coverage from practice on Monday and

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Speaker 1: Tuesday there in Vegas, so looking forward to that. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for me with us here on Move the Sticks.

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