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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of dir Daily ZiT Gist, a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is the podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially,

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Speaker 1: off the top, fuck the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News,

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Speaker 1: fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck fuck Sexton, and fuck j K Rowling. June.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a k A. No more,

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Speaker 1: Mr nice guy Miles Gray Jacob. On the Daily zeit Geist,

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Speaker 1: we say fuck Trump. Hee's of c te ah. That

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Speaker 1: is courtesy of Washing damn hands, good good advice, and

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined once again by my co

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Speaker 1: host Mr Old grap. So let's defund the cup. Even

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Speaker 1: it didn't take all night, let's deepens over abolished them. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much to the one and only at

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Speaker 1: Pink Politic Liverpool fan. You know, a shout out to

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Speaker 1: all Liverpool fans of Premier League started. My life is

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Speaker 1: a disaster since the Premier League started, but that's okay,

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Speaker 1: shout out to people doing Okay, thank you for that,

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Speaker 1: a k A. I'm ready for the world. I did

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Speaker 1: see Arsenal trending and like I now get a pit

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Speaker 1: in my stomach when I see arsenal trending because I'm

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Speaker 1: damn like, it's just never good news. We're actually we

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Speaker 1: are a Simpson's bit, you know, like when Homer was

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Speaker 1: in the in the ambulance and then the hit hit

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Speaker 1: a tree and he fell at the back of the ambulance,

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Speaker 1: and it felt that there was a meme made of

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Speaker 1: just since Wednesday, what's happened Our goalkeeper who was by

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Speaker 1: far one of our best players horrifically injured his knee

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Speaker 1: in the game that I saw live at seven in

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Speaker 1: the morning. I was like, I love you, like should

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Speaker 1: have been like that, and then immediately like why did

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Speaker 1: this even start? I didn't need this paint, but hey,

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Speaker 1: people need distractions and I don't need this one. Well,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat,

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Speaker 1: all the way from the capital of the world. I

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Speaker 1: would say at this point the high point of civilization. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he is Mr. The talented, the hilarious Guy Montgomery. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's guy, do do do do? Back on the Daily's

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Speaker 1: like guys, oh whoa, whoa, yeah, that's right the Daily

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Speaker 1: Like that's I got submitted there because the last time

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't standard. Obviously I should have gone the

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Speaker 1: false day of my singing volume. Of course, because it

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Speaker 1: is six two a ms such as my first my

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Speaker 1: unquenchable appetite to discuss Amrian current events. But I would

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Speaker 1: like to say a huge thank you to Podge more

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Speaker 1: In for submitting that. I think I complained last time,

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Speaker 1: and then they sit on and they said try this,

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Speaker 1: and I had it save and I really think I

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Speaker 1: hit a home run there. Yeah, I think I couldn't

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Speaker 1: agree with mail In that Yankee talk my man. Yeah no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not even we were We were hit for six

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Speaker 1: on that one. Hey, that's that's cricket terminology. I actually

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Speaker 1: yesterday I went I had to go to a toy

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Speaker 1: a fourth birthday party, and we went with my pocket

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Speaker 1: stop throwing it in our face that you can go

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Speaker 1: to a party where people congregate and then you went

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Speaker 1: to a store like it's February. So there is Actually

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Speaker 1: I am genuinely sorry about that. Did the care to

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Speaker 1: me that this would be so illicit? It's very boring Anyway.

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Speaker 1: The long and Short of it is. I went back

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Speaker 1: to the toy store the next day by myself the

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Speaker 1: best way to shove at the toy store, and I

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Speaker 1: found a card game which is a test cricket card game,

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Speaker 1: which is like baseball and you can play it as

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Speaker 1: one player. Isn't that against You're like Solitaire? But yeah,

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Speaker 1: but a sports card game. I know, I'm the coolest.

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Speaker 1: I'm the coolest student town. We're in what city in

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Speaker 1: New Zealand? Are you in? Auland Auckland, New Zealand? Alright? Best? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: best known for the hilarious full House episode where they

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Speaker 1: were going to Oakland but some of the kids accidentally

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Speaker 1: got on a flight to Auckland. That happened, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they actually flew the kids to Auckland.

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Speaker 1: A full House way more methed than we thought. Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that one. And I feel like they

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Speaker 1: are only like five seasons of Full House. There's only

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Speaker 1: that they're watch They're gonna go to Auckland, New Zealand

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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be in trouble. People like the

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Speaker 1: how do you spe why spell in Oakland? Like that

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Speaker 1: knowlledge that there's a country that's outside of the United

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Speaker 1: States seems do you know how ludicrous the impact of

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Speaker 1: American media is that even now, when I watched television

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Speaker 1: soon as the characters said to each other, you know,

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Speaker 1: to New Zealand? I should go. I still will high

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Speaker 1: five whether I'm sitting with nobody, like, yeah, they know

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Speaker 1: we're out here. It's like, it's insane. Put you guys

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Speaker 1: on the map, well speaking, Yeah, you're a welcome guy.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. I do want to say it's rare that

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Speaker 1: I get to see like the season's change in any way.

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Speaker 1: But I do notice that it's getting darker over the

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Speaker 1: course of having you on the show. Over Quarantine. It's

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Speaker 1: now it used to be like sort of hazy, dusky

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Speaker 1: But you know, Jack the second by the time we end, though,

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Speaker 1: it always looks different. Remember what guy looks like now?

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Speaker 1: Because like the sun's about to set and I'm always

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Speaker 1: like then i feel like I'm getting out of a

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Speaker 1: bar from like morning drinking and I'm like it's light out, man,

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Speaker 1: surfing around and stuff. Yeah, by the Yeah, can I

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Speaker 1: just say fellas lovely to see you, yeah, and know

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Speaker 1: my best wishes. I honestly, I was so excited when

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Speaker 1: this show, Like when I looked about a week ago,

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Speaker 1: because I was just reading all about New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: how you know there was a full on rugby match

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Speaker 1: every because you guys did the right thing listen to experts.

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Speaker 1: Granted it's a much smaller country, but it was very

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Speaker 1: heartening to see an example of like, yeah, listen to

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Speaker 1: the experts and then we could very quickly go. But

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Speaker 1: if you just will tell you how to get there,

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Speaker 1: let's just do that. And I was like, man, this

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Speaker 1: kind of feels so good in New Zealand right now

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Speaker 1: to just like come out and just hug people and

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Speaker 1: screaming each each other's faces like there's no pandemic going on. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was one of the big things we did, is

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Speaker 1: our government employees people called scientists. And these guys, now,

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Speaker 1: these scientists, it's their job to do all the work,

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Speaker 1: um like from Star Trek scientists. Yeah, zealand Yeah. While

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Speaker 1: the scientists will see it, here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: And then and then the scientist see it's good to go, scientists.

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Speaker 1: You guys are going to look into this game game changes.

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Speaker 1: Get into this science thing. Guys, get into that. Um

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Speaker 1: all right, guy, we're gonna get to know you a

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Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We

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Speaker 1: of course have to talk about the Tulsa rally, the

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Speaker 1: big Trump Maga rally. That wasn't a big Trump Maga rally. Really,

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Speaker 1: it was like a small little gathering. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about who was responsible for there being not such a

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Speaker 1: They said the lowest estimate heading into the Magarelli with

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Speaker 1: sixty thousand people. They claimed that there were a million

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Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll talk about just the general state

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Speaker 1: of there are unsolved lynch ings happening in America. The

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Speaker 1: police are very petulant going around harassing just communities of people.

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Speaker 1: H We're gonna talk about fireworks also for some reason,

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Speaker 1: We might change the name of Columbus, Ohio. Uh and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about we might get to a Trump movie

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Speaker 1: and scientology using COVID nineteen to recruit people, all of

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Speaker 1: that plenty more. But first, guy, we like task our guests,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing

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Speaker 1: about who you are? I've looked at why is t

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Speaker 1: Rex the most famous dinosaur? Mm hmmm do you guys

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Speaker 1: didn't put it together until I had read Oedipus Rex

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Speaker 1: And then I don't know. Do people just get lazy

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Speaker 1: like monarchical structures or something. I guess from what I

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Speaker 1: and I It's widely regarded as the most famous dinosaur.

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Speaker 1: This is partly because it was the very first large

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Speaker 1: you how you find dinosaurs and how great everything is. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: and also, like you know, the American Empire is much

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Speaker 1: We just have amazing PR you do. You've got a

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Speaker 1: They're loose. Yeah, what's the view? What's the view from

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Speaker 1: America would say do you know what you guys need? Military? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. Is the coverage ever, like from the news

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Speaker 1: because news you get, you guys get some you know,

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Speaker 1: most of what's happening. The coverage is sort of like

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Speaker 1: that's what I say. The other thing that was cool

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Speaker 1: and they were like, there's only like six thousand people here,

425
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Speaker 1: six thousand, two hundred showed up to be exact. Um,

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Speaker 1: and the worst case scenario coming in according to you

427
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Speaker 1: know estimates heading in was sixty thousand. Uh. They had

428
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Speaker 1: been bragging that a million people were inquiring or registering

429
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Speaker 1: to show up, and people immediately, you know, Fox News,

430
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Speaker 1: I think, is immediately jumped on the fact that some

431
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Speaker 1: teenagers on TikTok and some uh K pop stands were

432
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Speaker 1: saying that they had registered uh and then not attended

433
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Speaker 1: the event, which was you know, real switcheroo and unfair,

434
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: not fair, and they're they're claiming that, but when you

435
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: take into account that there were unlimited tickets. They it

436
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were buying seats and then not attending

437
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: those seats. It was an unlimited amount of people could

438
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: register and show up, and they had it planned that

439
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: the overflow crowd would be outside and Trump and Pence

440
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: would address them afterwards. But they didn't even have enough

441
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: to fill the inside. The outside was completely empty and

442
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: they had to cancel that second appearance. UM. So it

443
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: was just all around not not a good look for Trump.

444
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Speaker 1: Oh and Brad par Scale, you know, I don't know

445
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: how long he'll be campaign manager, because all the reports

446
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: were like when Trump realized how scant the crowd was,

447
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: like he lost it and knew he was pissed because

448
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: there's that video clip of him coming back to the

449
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: White House and Marine one on the helicopter and his

450
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: ties undone, and he's like he's like hanging his head

451
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: walking back like that, Like no one came to his

452
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: racist prom party at all, even though so many people

453
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: are VP moment, no one showed up that even the

454
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: way par Scale explains it is so bizarre. It's because

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Speaker 1: it's almost like he's almost saying, like, don't give credit

456
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: to the K pop people for sucking this up, like

457
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: we just no one just people don't funk with the president.

458
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: That's how it sounds, because he says left dissent. This

459
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: is a quote from Brad Carr's part. Leftists and online

460
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: trolls doing a victory lap thinking they somehow impacted rally

461
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: intendants don't know what they're talking about, or how are

462
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: rallies work. Reporters who wrote gleefully about TikTok and K

463
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: pop fans without contacting the campaign for comment, but have

464
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: unprofessionally and we're willing dupes to the charade, and he

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Speaker 1: goes on too, basically saying like even though people R

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Speaker 1: s v P, they know how to get the bogus

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Speaker 1: numbers out and they knew, like we we had the

468
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: right calculations. So if that's the case, then you have

469
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Speaker 1: to own now that your own people don't support you,

470
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Speaker 1: if it's not like it wasn't because of that. Yeah,

471
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and the pride to be like no, no, the calculations

472
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: are good, like what does what does lift to grab

473
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: onto at this point? Nothing? And it's gotta suck. Because

474
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: there were people on like one American News who were

475
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Speaker 1: like like hyper ventilating to the camera because they knew

476
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: Trump would watch this, Like you know, they said that

477
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Speaker 1: there was probably only six thousand people in there, and

478
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Speaker 1: I like myself, other people we were we were eyewitnesses

479
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Speaker 1: in the building. I mean there was the full half

480
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: of the stadium was there. So if it's and holds

481
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Speaker 1: and there was a full half, then it can't just

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Speaker 1: be six thousand. Is a WHOA why are you miss?

483
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Why are you breathing so hard like this? Because you know,

484
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: like you have to go out there and just pretend

485
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: like that that the brand that you know the brand

486
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: of white supremacy isn't doing too good right now. I

487
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: think that's another thing people should look at because a

488
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: lot of people, I think on progressives were like, okay,

489
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: so if progressives got out in the street and people

490
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: willing to stand in solidarity for equality took the streets

491
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: like this over the last couple of weeks, we're like, well, well,

492
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Speaker 1: I guess we'll see what kind of racist, you know,

493
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Speaker 1: cracking emerges from Tulsa. And you've got six thousand people

494
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people, even themselves kind of saying like,

495
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Speaker 1: I don't know correct, Like even on Fox News they're like,

496
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: who thought it was a good idea to have twenty

497
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Speaker 1: thousand people with masks optional and enclosed space? It was

498
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Speaker 1: weird how Fox turned on him today. I think it

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Speaker 1: looks like the answer to that question is roughly six

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Speaker 1: thousand people within driving Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to

501
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: see how this effects. Like it obviously hurts his feelings,

502
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: but he's a you know, a narcissist who takes all

503
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Speaker 1: of his self worth from outside indicators. So and actually

504
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: he'll just be able to, you know, suck the oxygen

505
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: out of the room enough to puff himself back up.

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Speaker 1: But there is a thing that you noticed throughout the

507
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: seen and then throughout his presidency, the campaign and his

508
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: presidency where this was sort of a cool meme among

509
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: kind of racist people, where like showing up to Trump

510
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: rallies like there was you know, you heard it described

511
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: as like being like a rock concert, like everybody shows up.

512
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: There were in T shirts, They're lined up hours in advance,

513
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: they're meeting other fans, and so like seeing that sort

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00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: of pierced a little bit at the same time that yes,

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Speaker 1: a white supremacy is is having just a rough day

516
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: in the media these past couple of weeks. I do

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Speaker 1: wonder if that's going to compound on itself or if

518
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Speaker 1: there will be some sort of like you know, backlash

519
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: to the It does seem to be for for Trump

520
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: that as we call him here at the Zog President Cheetah.

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00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: It does seem to be a bit of that. A

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Speaker 1: difficult second album about the whole legion. Yeah, it's tough. Also,

523
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: the fear always right is that he's so good at

524
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: whipping his fans into a frenzy that you know this

525
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the spin on this is like now more than ever,

526
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: we need you guys to mobilize and energize and and

527
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: make some noise. I mean, it's like, you know, this

528
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Speaker 1: is exactly it's it's the fear that I you know,

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Speaker 1: I imagine is that this can lead to some version

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Speaker 1: of complacency amongst Democratic voters, Like you know, the entire

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00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: campaign that's been wheeled out as the alternative is not

532
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: this is what you want, it's you don't want the

533
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: other thing. And you know, this sort of public humility icean,

534
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: especially this far out from the election, is the sort

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00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: of thing that can take seed and lead to well,

536
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just predicting, but some sort of complacency

537
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: or over confidence or just not good things to be

538
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: carrying towards the election. It is funny, it is. It

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00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: is also very funny though, because I'm I don't know

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00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: if you guys have this, but I'm against the guy. Yeah,

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00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna have to He's gonna have to

542
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: come out with new hits, like you're saying, uh, you know,

543
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: the first album, MAGA Volume one, we had things like

544
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: lock her Up, build that Wall, U s a UM

545
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: and people can only sing the same hits over and

546
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: over at these shows before, like yo, where's the new ship. Uh.

547
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: The only thing I heard that was kind of cool

548
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: was Ronna Romney mcgath, the head of the r NC.

549
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: She was she called a Biden's campaign Biden's seek, and

550
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, that was clever. But you know, again,

551
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: if if you really think that these elections are one

552
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: just on these wittic systems, then we have I mean,

553
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: we already have a problem, but we have additional problems

554
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: in this country. And on top of that, Trump's you know,

555
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Biden outraised Trump by six million I think this last month.

556
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: So there's in the in the end. You know, what's

557
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: clear is that just just in your face racism from

558
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: seventeen is a huge risk in now, whether that's you know,

559
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: going out there and just being like oh man, now

560
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: knowing like how this is framed, Like now I've ran up.

561
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: If you're somewhat if you were I don't know somehow

562
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: a reasonable Trump supporter, you'd be like, I think I've

563
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: run out of ways to say I'm not racist by

564
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: being here. Yeah, I mean it is that are going down,

565
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: So like that. That's the thing is we see there

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00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: are these supporters that we see who are allowed and

567
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: like storming their stay capital without masks and automatic weapons,

568
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: and like that's who we picture as all Trump supporters.

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Speaker 1: But you know, he is bleeding you know, support in

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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: a in a small way, so there there must be.

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00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: And also the low point, like what you know, people

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00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: talk about him kind of saying racist things that get

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00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: him pushback or misogynist things that get pushed back in

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00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: the media, and then his pulling numbers go up. But

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00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: the low point of his approval rating in his presidency

576
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: was after Charlottesville, so like after he said the both

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Speaker 1: sides things. So it does seem like there's a limit

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Speaker 1: to that that like being openly uh you know, courting

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00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: white supremacists, like open white supremacists, does seem to be

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Speaker 1: at least a possibly unpopular or less popular than his

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00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: sort of polite racism. I think the other thing, too,

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: is there's nothing that will have a white racist person

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Speaker 1: reconsider their racism than another white person telling them that

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00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: their racism is bullshit, because it's easy to ignore, you know,

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00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: non a non white person telling you. But I think

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00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like we've been saying, if you

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00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: the first step of beginning this work towards any kind

588
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: of just world is to a let your values be

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00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: known to other people, because now if you were racist

590
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: and you thought everybody was quiet because you felt the

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: same way, and now you see the streets filled up

592
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: with people that look like you, who are just with

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Speaker 1: signs saying but like, you're gonna begin guessing or at

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00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: least some people might take a second to think about it.

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00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's what's very powerful too, is I

596
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: feel like there are a decent amount of people I've

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00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: seen two who are kind of also trying to take

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Speaker 1: a harder line within the spaces they are in as

599
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: well to not you know, abide by any kind of

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Speaker 1: racism or white supremacy. Absolutely, it's the it's the um Yeah,

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00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta. It's just it can be challenging

602
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: to know because of the spices we occupy online or

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00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: even amongst a closed circle of friends. I'm imagining, Uh,

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00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: it is limited it to that the fear that we

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00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: exist purely and you know, like I remember the last

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Speaker 1: election on Twitter, even when bricks had happened before, because

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00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: that was like the bricks even before Trump got elected,

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00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: right yeah, And I remember seeing that and being like, well,

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming according to the you know,

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Speaker 1: two thousand people I follow on Twitter or whatever, well,

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, who thought that they weren't representative of the world.

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00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: And so but certainly within the communities that I've noticed,

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Speaker 1: there is a real assertion of um correction and sort

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00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: of you know that the impact of what's happening globally

615
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: is taking taking hold locally, which is you know, that's

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Speaker 1: why we've got the march. Here's why people are talking

617
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: to their families here. Even though the conversation is different here,

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00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the impact of that is reaching

619
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Speaker 1: further afield, which is cool. Yeah. The one thing I think,

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Speaker 1: could you know, I'm not now this is another thing

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Speaker 1: that factored into it. I think COVID does have a

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: big thing, probably played a big part of it, because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there are people who are racist but also

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Speaker 1: fear COVID nineteen and we're kind of like, yeah, as

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: much as I want to act like yeah, fuck it,

626
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: I'll get COVID. I think only six thousand people were

627
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: really truly willing to go that far because on some level,

628
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Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm not just gonna say, you know,

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00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: racim has become so unfashionable. Look at the rallies. I

630
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: think there's definitely a group of people to who are

631
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: you know, they are not willing to put their own

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Speaker 1: safety at risk ever, so they'd rather be you know,

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: racist from the safety of their own home. Scientists the right.

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00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: But then so even like when you look at Florida,

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00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: right the Republican National Convention. You know, there's talks about

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Speaker 1: having it in Jacksonville because Rhonda Santis the governor. There's

637
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: like COVID what and I don't know what that, Yeah,

638
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, come on down. But even when

639
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: you look at there are some polls that came out

640
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: from people in Jacksonville, and by like a ten point margin,

641
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: even the voters in Jacksonville did not want a convention

642
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: there because of the people they pulled were concerned about

643
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: a virus outbreak. Even though like they're clearly based on

644
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: the polling before about how favorable Donald Trump was, like

645
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: it was, you know, forty one in favor against so

646
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, pretty split. But even on these things

647
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: when it came down to like the virus, it was

648
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: you were seeing these majorities kind of you know, uh,

649
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: bear out into the in the poll numbers. But there's

650
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: got to be a part of if if somebody is saying, Okay,

651
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: I still support Trump because racism, misogyny like those are

652
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: He's my guy. But then you also are seeing that

653
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: he's telling you it's okay to come out to this rally,

654
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: but you are afraid enough of the virus to know

655
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: that's not true. Like doesn't that have to undercut some

656
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: of their support, like their belief that this person is

657
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: like a good leader, Like I just feel like there's

658
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: not about but it's not about let's say, I think

659
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: it's not about lead or ship, Like these people are

660
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: completely untethered from the concept of what a leader is.

661
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: They just like the TV show where a white man

662
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: is as cruel as possible to people that don't look

663
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: like him or believe what he believes. That's what they're

664
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: in for, like this show, because any person who has

665
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: half a brain about how legislation works would probably be

666
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: really concerned with half the stuff that's going on. I mean,

667
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the government now is just playing this

668
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: game with the people of saying like I wonder how

669
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: long do they realize we don't even give a funk

670
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: about the Constitution, but we'll let them sweat it out

671
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: and pretend like it's a thing that because behind the

672
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: scenes we're out here violating that you know what we

673
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: call it just you know, might as well be a

674
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: rolling paper. Yeah, I think the mental gymnastics is required

675
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: to support this party in any respect. It's so it's

676
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: so great. I think people aren't worried or even considering

677
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: the contradictions that is required for them to plead his

678
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: support or go out like, you know, these are the

679
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: mental gymnastics. Means that we've got some mentally agile, although

680
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: all bit in the wrong wise, people like, yeah, well,

681
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: I think because in and of itself right, the idea

682
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: of to be racist to hold those values, and it's

683
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: so absurd to begin with that, the results are gonna

684
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: only be absurd as people have to begin like be

685
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: pulled out of it because it's already absurd, the reasoning

686
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: to stay in it will be just as equally as absurd. Mhm,

687
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: there's not There's not anyone gonna be is like, I'm

688
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: racist because it's good for the environment, and I can

689
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: point to it like no one, no one has reasoning

690
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: like that. It's just that I just think that's just

691
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: the way it is. And you know, like white people

692
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: built the world. And also, I'm not going to acknowledge

693
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: that there wrote a racist history that was force fed

694
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: into my brain as a child. So I only know

695
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: the world through this perspective of white men. But that's

696
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: what I believe, and that's that and other these people

697
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: are unequal to me because I I don't know, because

698
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: that's what I've been told. There's donna say an equal

699
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: fiction with those people who say no, like you know

700
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: that I'm not They say, I'm not racist. This is

701
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: just what I think, which is it's seems to be

702
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: a dividing point now amongst you know, acknowledgement that implicit

703
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: racism exists in all of us because of the structures

704
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: in which you know, the world operates and the way

705
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: that we're brought up in the fact that we're all

706
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: deprogramming and like dismantling this inherently racist system. And so

707
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: the true racists are the ones who now say, no,

708
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm not racist. It's just that this is how it is.

709
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: And you know, like the ability to acknowledge racism within

710
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: yourself as a step towards trying to to heal it,

711
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: I guess. And then you do have these freaky fections

712
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: of people who are proudly racist. Yeah, but then I

713
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: think even those people who want to be intellectual about it,

714
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: it's if they're those people are probably already trying to

715
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: operate in spaces where there are more reasonable people. And

716
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: then when someone would say that to me, I'm like, Okay,

717
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: well I don't care what you think. That's racist, and

718
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: I get the funk out of my face. Well I'll

719
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: let me. I'm like, no, it's not a debate. And

720
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: I think that's what's interesting now is like we're trying

721
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: to be a little more you know, uh, objective, even

722
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: with the language we use when we talk about like

723
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: whether it's talking about comedians and like young women versus

724
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: a child, you know what I mean, if someone is

725
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: not an adult, they are a child. But we use

726
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: these modifiers like we need to be a little more objective.

727
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: Let's let's call it what it is. And before it's

728
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: very easy for people to be like, well, you know,

729
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: that is just sort of what I'm looking at based

730
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: on the data that this is why these people behave

731
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: like this and like now, rather than saying like racially

732
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: charged remarks, people need to be moving towards things of

733
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: just being like, no racist, and it doesn't matter what

734
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: their defense is, because we have to sort of stand

735
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: together as the you know, reasonable community of people and say, no,

736
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: that's that's racism and no matter. You can tell your

737
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: own audience so they can convince themselves, but we will

738
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: not be tricked by that. And I think that's what

739
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: we also have to do is not allow you know,

740
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: that kind of disingenuous discourse to happen in our presence either.

741
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Did you see the video of christal Leo on a

742
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: podcast finding out that you can save Snapchat? Oh my god,

743
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: it's the whole thing is so dark, it is so

744
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: it is so crazy now because of podcasting and the

745
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: fact that people are videoing their podcasts, just like the

746
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: Mountain of evidence, the paper trayal that these fucking like

747
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: these pedophiles and essence or not even an essance leaving

748
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: behind you know, who would have who would have thought

749
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: you'd get to literally watch him reckon with his actions

750
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: and then also how long ago was that have no

751
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: material impact on how he behaves sociopath It's for people

752
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: who don't know. It's like a podcast where they're talking

753
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: about somebody getting caught. Because I think It was a teacher,

754
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: a woman teacher who had a relationship with a child,

755
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: and she was sending Snapchat messages to the child, and

756
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: the child the child's mom found them and you see Crystal.

757
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, yeah, man, that's my star. And you

758
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: can tell like he's not really like thinking about what

759
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: they're talking about because something else is going on, like

760
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: the wheels are learning. And then he's like wait, wait

761
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: wait so so so hold on, hold on so snapchat though,

762
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Like how do they even find that because Snapchat like

763
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: it disappears right because the kids can do it, they'll know,

764
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: they'll use screen record and then that's how they'll capture it. Oh,

765
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: it's and then just like you just see his career

766
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: flash before his eyes. It's wild. Uh, let's take a

767
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

768
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: and let's talk about Columbus, Ohio, hometown of the great

769
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: Cody Johnston of Ohio State University, three hours from place

770
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: I grew up. And uh, named after Christopher Columbus, the director,

771
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: not the director of Goods, which is what I thought

772
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: growing up. I was like, Oh, named after um, that

773
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: guy the lead singer of Genocidal tendencies. No, the great

774
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: explorer Christopher Columbus. Yes, yes, that's what I meant. That

775
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: was flippant. Yeah, they're I mean it's interesting. You know. Again,

776
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the anti colonies, anti colonizer slaver wave continues. The Teddy

777
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: Roosevelt's White Man on Top statue is going to be

778
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: taken down outside of the Natural History Museum, which is

779
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, again, depending on what side of whether or

780
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: not you like racism, you'll have an opinion on that.

781
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: But the statue itself, I remember seeing it was like, wait,

782
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: it's a like a indigenous person and a black person

783
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: on either side of the horse, and he's a okay,

784
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: well that's an interesting message. So that statue has a

785
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: planned retirement. And then even like the ice cream, the

786
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: Eskimo Pie will no longer be branded as such. I

787
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: think Dryers is the parent company. They're doing away with that.

788
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: And if you want like a Sports Center style recap

789
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: of white supremacy in full panic, just watch Fox News

790
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: because like they almost kick off like every hour with

791
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: like an Eskimo Pie. Now it's like they have like

792
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: this like weird they always tune in with what what

793
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: fucking company woke up today? I guess, uh sort of guffying, um,

794
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: and now you know, Columbus, it's their turn for the

795
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: woke armies of Satan to put their attention upon this name.

796
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's hard to say, like you're

797
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna just completely rename a city because it's the fucking capital.

798
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: It's like the largest city in the state. There's a

799
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: lot of signs are gonna have to come down. Um.

800
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: But there is a petition right now to have the

801
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: city renamed after a true son of Columbus, Guy Fieri,

802
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: but changed their name to Flavor Town. And I obviously

803
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: that's a good call. I think for now. It's funny

804
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: if it gets over the last right now, because you know,

805
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good marketing, isn't it. Everyone's gonna want

806
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: to go to Flavor Town. And then what say it

807
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: holds if it's a place att of it somehow? You know,

808
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: sometimes people name these interim things and then they don't

809
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: get around to getting changed. Fifties, sixties, seventy eighty years

810
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: from now, you know, a whole new generation we'll get

811
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: to learn. But this place is called Flavor Town of

812
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: the great Guy Fieri, right, Yeah, absolutely, I don't know.

813
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean the again, this is the thing that we

814
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: were talking about even last week when there were talks

815
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: of like what do you do with Nathaniel Bedford forests,

816
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, statue in the Tennessee capital, Like do you

817
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: put up You're like Dolly Parton because that's a Tennessee

818
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: and being you're proud of. But honestly, I think if

819
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna be corrective, you need to put up representations

820
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: of the antithesis of what that former offensive form stood for.

821
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: So if you have someone that is a colonizer, then

822
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: you have to you need to actually set that balance

823
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: off by now enshrining somebody who is about liberation um

824
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: and things like that. I think just as a one

825
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: to one because it could be easy to just be like, yeah,

826
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: that would be fun, let's just replace it with something meaningless.

827
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: But I think just for the the ability for a

828
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: dominant culture to enshrine some of their worst people. Uh,

829
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: and we're trying to actually have some kind of sea change,

830
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: then do the right thing and actually let's celebrate people

831
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: that are we're doing that, we're doing the things that

832
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: are getting us towards the future we're trying to envision.

833
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: I would suggest naming it after a Native American word,

834
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: but that there's no American towns named after a Native

835
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: American word, so that would be just all of them,

836
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: like so many of them. Yeah, I would, I would agree,

837
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: was there what what's the plan for the statutes? Are

838
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: they gonna get melted down? Like the things I I

839
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: would wonder about, is is there a place for you know,

840
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: education through the horrors of the people who have been

841
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: deified and put up in these statues. Is it worth

842
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: creating essentially a you know, a museum of horrors where

843
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: you essentially advertise them with plaques which actually detail what

844
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: they did instead of sort of you know, like, is

845
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: there a revision assistory version of it where we say,

846
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: these are the statues, this is what they actually like,

847
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: here's what they represent. It is is what they actually

848
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: did instead of just trying to sort of sid this

849
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: a ranger approach of saying no, no, no, everything's been

850
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: hunky dory here since dot one. I mean, how do

851
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: you how do you actually you know, what's the proper

852
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: course correction in terms of re educating ourselves and future

853
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: generations on this stuff. I think that's sort of the

854
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, long term discussion about you know, clearly right

855
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: now what the last few weeks have established that there

856
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: is an appetite for some level of equilibrium on some

857
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: whether that's you know, I think for people like us,

858
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about full on you know, revamping, dismantling of

859
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: these these systems of oppression. That's the only way I

860
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: think that's the only way we can truly move towards

861
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: any semblance of equality. But again, this is a a

862
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: slow moving machine, um, And I think those steps are

863
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: gonna have They're gonna take they're gonna take time, but

864
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: we have to keep the pressure on. And essentially, yes,

865
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: there is going to have to be some kind of

866
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: like truth and Reconciliation committee something where America as a whole,

867
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: like through our educations like that we are officially taking

868
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: the time to like be like, we really need to

869
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: sit down with what happened before you were born, you know,

870
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: and remember what the momentum was your life carried into

871
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: this moment because it's off the it's off the back

872
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: of a lot of blood, um, And we were just

873
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: we just did a really good job of doing the

874
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: thing of like well that's not actually, yes, I think

875
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: my parents sucks but I don't want to think about

876
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: it because it's my parents, you know, and they gave

877
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: me life or whatever. But sometimes you have to be like, yo,

878
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: this this parent is a straight up piece of shit. Um,

879
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: but it's okay because I'm not a piece of ship,

880
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: and all I can do is at the very least

881
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: acknowledge what a piece of ship looks like. So we

882
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: no longer have more pieces of ship out here running things. Yeah.

883
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: I do really like the idea. I mean, all all

884
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: of the really rich, fascinating cultures and uh intricate histories

885
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: that were just completely wiped out by these assholes. Uh

886
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: Like there there's you could fill all every square foot

887
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: of America with testaments to that stuff, and that is

888
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: way more interesting than the version of history that they

889
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: give kids currently. Um oh yeah, I mean like it's

890
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: almost like you could do a series and maybe we

891
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: should not include this, but I honestly think if you

892
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: did a podcast that was about your city and it

893
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: was a true crime podcast of how fucked your city

894
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: has been that you don't know about, people would just

895
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: have their minds blown. And people didn't know that like

896
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: in Pasadena, like black people couldn't like own property there

897
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: to like the sixties, you know what I mean, and

898
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: that people look at Pasadena now like, oh, it's so

899
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: many like liberal, you know, white people. But again we

900
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: have to remember like what liberal means versus like progressive

901
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: or leftist or someone who was actually fighting for equality,

902
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: because liberal just means like you're willing to stomach a

903
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: certain level of white supremacy until a point. Well, guys,

904
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: let's talk about Scientology. Let's let's just switch switch tracks. Um,

905
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: not really. So Scientology has been using, uh, the pandemic

906
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: to recruit people. They've been giving out like in a

907
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: really like kind of subtle way that suggests to me

908
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: that they are bad at recruiting people because they're like

909
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: in some cases they're handing out just pamphlets that are

910
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: actual informational pamphlets about COVID nineteen that look almost exactly

911
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: like the government issued booklet. This is actually in New Zealand. Guy. Oh, well,

912
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: on the back there was a QR code that leads

913
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: to the Church of Scientology website, which sounds like a

914
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: very convoluted way of getting people to go to show

915
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: up at your website and feel tricked at being there. Um,

916
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: But they were kind of flooding different restaurants and retailers

917
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: in New Zealand, all those places that you are allowed

918
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: to go that are but a distant memory for us.

919
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: The timing of the release of these pamphlets is a

920
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: touch off. When curiosity about how to kick ourselves against

921
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, it would be fit to say it's probably

922
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: tapering off, all right, you know, to read the whole

923
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: booklet and then scan the q I code thinking I

924
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: need more. Can you imagine? I don't think I've ever

925
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: they see a single visit from that. I've never scanned

926
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: a sucking QR code unless it was for something like

927
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: I had to do in that moment to connect some

928
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: piece of hardware to another thing. I've never been like, damn,

929
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: that was a good fucking soda. Hold on, let me

930
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: scan this QR code on the back real quick because

931
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: I must know more q I. I thought they were

932
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: total right off, but QR codes have become very huge,

933
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: like especially because we had these phases of lockdown and

934
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: when we east into Level two, which mean that we

935
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: were allowed to return to cafes and restaurants. The contact

936
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: tracing in New Zealand, in the everywhere you went, every

937
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: business head to have a QR code that you'd scanned

938
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: and you'd log many. Yeah, it's known to the media.

939
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: It's just it's just literally so there's a data working database.

940
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: But I was blown away. I thought that these things

941
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: were done. But QR codes really to the four so

942
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: good on scientology for piggybacking on the movement, I guess

943
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 1: I like time in many respects as well. I jumped

944
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: to the assumption like, oh, the QR code is to

945
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: show you like a menu of things for you to consume,

946
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: like no, for like to keep things, like to trace

947
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: things and make sure we know as much as possible.

948
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, oh, Like, so people are doing sacrifice,

949
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: how do you buy it in the most minimal way?

950
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: Their individual rights for the collective good? That doesn't doesn't

951
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: some some of us are doing it, but grudgingly. I

952
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: would imagine, Like you know, there's always there's always pushed

953
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: back where people say, I don't want the government to

954
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: know where are we today. It's like you're not that

955
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: interesting Greek like, man, you're on Facebook. You're on Facebook

956
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: checking into supermarkets like okay, um, But I didn't. I didn't.

957
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know that it's amazing to think that the

958
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: Church of Scientologies, if it's, have somehow registered on the

959
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: news cycle of America and in New Zealand where they're

960
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: targeting us. I say that, I mean maybe my friends

961
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: have been quietly recruited. They didn't. They keep talking about diagnostics.

962
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: They want to give me a pissonality taste. But I

963
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: just figured that would goofing around. You guy, there appears

964
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: to be an e meter behind you in your on

965
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: your bookshelf. No, you'ren't gonna worry about that. That's uh,

966
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: that's just to make show everything's don't be a suppressive person, jack, right.

967
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: But you know, David the Scavenge, they're kind of Scientology

968
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: Pope in a memo in March called the Pandemic Hysteria.

969
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: So we know where they ultimately stand. Even though they

970
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: were giving out some helpful information with that was designed

971
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: to bring people to their website, there was that cruise

972
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: to that. Remember that, like the like a few ports

973
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: rejected them because they're like, this sounds like a COVID

974
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: boat we aren't willing to deal with. Yeah, they treat

975
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: the air um like sea org. I guess it is

976
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: the people who sign away their rights to the Church

977
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: of Scientology for a billion years. Uh, they treat them

978
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: very badly. The healthcare plan for the Sea org not

979
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: great it turns out, but just all around you know

980
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: that they've got to do something now that you know,

981
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: a long term l ap D investigation into Danny Masterson's

982
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: sexual assault of three women has now uh you know,

983
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: they're they've issued charges um and the Church of Scientology

984
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: was ultimately uh involved. It would appear in kind of

985
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: suppressing those accusations and you know, pushing back, and it

986
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: seems like they might be their influence and power in

987
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: the United States might be on the way. M h.

988
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: It feels like slowly if you put all of the

989
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: news stories together, while it is an incredibly uh you know,

990
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: full on time to be alive. You know, Scientology is

991
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: on the Wayne White supremacies, on the Waine whatso this right?

992
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean Scientology if they're smart, right, because like in

993
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: l A, I get why some people fall into it

994
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: because they can at the time in the nineties in

995
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: early two thousands, you can go down a list of

996
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: celebrities who were famous and make this weird connection that like, Okay,

997
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: if I do this, then I can be as famous

998
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: as this person. But like when you look at now,

999
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: how like young kids who they want to be. It's

1000
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: not fucking movie stars. They want to be like vloggers

1001
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: and TikTokers and ship. So they need to get their

1002
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: ass over there and start recruiting those people or else

1003
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: you think you think you're gonna tell some sixteen year old,

1004
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: oh you want to be like old, asked Tom Cruise

1005
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: or fucking John Travolta. They were like who the fund

1006
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: is John Travolta? And they're like, what is this movie

1007
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: with the old problematic white men with dreadlocks? What is

1008
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: this ship John Travolta of of Gatti fame? Right exactly?

1009
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: Like that's probably what a kid is going to remember

1010
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: him from. They're like, oh, that that guy was in

1011
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: a movie before that. Remember like when you were a

1012
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: kid and some some there would be an old person

1013
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: in a movie and your parents would be like hyped

1014
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, who the funk are you talking about?

1015
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Like when Max von sid Oh was in like Bill

1016
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: and Ted and like as Death and my mom was like, wow,

1017
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: he's back, and like who is this old ass man?

1018
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, this man had a historic career.

1019
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: But I'm young and I only know from this moment forward. Yeah,

1020
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: it's like happy Days jokes and like mash references and

1021
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: stuff that I was just like, Man, I don't know

1022
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: what the funk you're talking about. But as I became

1023
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: a fan of comedy, like that was all over the place,

1024
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: like in the Simpsons and stuff like that. Right, anyways, Guy,

1025
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find

1026
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: you and follow you? You can find me and guy

1027
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: under school mont on Twitter and Instagram, And I gotta

1028
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: tell you sometimes I post content if that's where you're after,

1029
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm your dude. Nice. Uh? And is there a tweeter

1030
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Uh,

1031
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: there wasn't. I'm actually just finding the tweet. This one

1032
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: tickled me really well. This is from someone called Camilla

1033
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: Blackett at Camilla d My guy now told me that

1034
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: in her twenty years of practice, I of the strongest

1035
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: pelvic floor she's ever seen. So if you feel a

1036
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: shifting energy when I enter the room, it's because this

1037
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: is the level of confidence I'm walking with now, um miles,

1038
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? And what's

1039
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: a tweet You've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram, uh, PlayStation network,

1040
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: Miles of Gray. Also my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance.

1041
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 1: If you like ninety day Fiance checked that show out.

1042
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: Um And a tweet I like is from at doctor Zoom.

1043
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: Uh and this is just kind of it's it's truly

1044
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: a snapshot of where we are. He tweets Breaking USA

1045
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: achieves one onion slash reality parody and the first uh

1046
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: thing is as a headline from the Washington Post that says,

1047
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: amid threats in political pushback, public health officials are leaving

1048
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: their posts. This is a post from the Onion in

1049
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: said nations experts give up Washington d C. Citing years

1050
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: of frustration over their advice being misunderstood, misrepresented, or simply ignored.

1051
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: America's foremost experts in every field collectively tendered their resignation Monday.

1052
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Uh and it's Jesus, yeah, you know. So you can't

1053
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: say you're when you're watching a car crash and slow motion.

1054
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: You can't be surprised when it's ending in a crash, right. Uh.

1055
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Tweet I've been enjoying from soul Nate at M Nate

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Speaker 1: Shamalan tweeted me this is my invention. I call it

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Speaker 1: the Q tip marketing guy, what's it for me? So

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Speaker 1: many things? Just don't stick it in your ears? Marketing guy,

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Speaker 1: yours full of que tips? Sorry what You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter, Jack Underscore O'Brien find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Daily Zygeys. Were at the Daily Zygeys on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook campage and a website Daily zike

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Speaker 1: dot com where we post our episodes and our foot

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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 1: about in today's episode, as well as the song we

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Speaker 1: ride out on mile What are we riding into the week?

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Speaker 1: I think this? Uh So, on yesterday's episode, we went

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Speaker 1: out on a track by fellow COUTI and I want

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Speaker 1: to actually keep that that without momentum going um. This

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Speaker 1: is a track from a group called Classica Orchestra Acrobeat,

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Speaker 1: and they used it's very I don't know. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's a very interesting conversation, you know, if I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get deep with it. With classical instruments coming from Europe,

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Speaker 1: uh and those are being brought by colonizers to Africa

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Speaker 1: and then use those instruments to play African music. I

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Speaker 1: think it's an interesting conversation. Uh, and so this is

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Speaker 1: their rendition of the iconic Fellow Couci track Zombie. So

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Speaker 1: this is Zombie by Classica Orchestra Africa. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: the Daily that guys is the production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio from more podcasts from my Heart Radio visits, the

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Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listening your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with afternoon to tell you what's trending

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you then Bye bye bye,

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Speaker 1: Zoombiz done, Be yours homby. Don't be knockna Cole unless

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Speaker 1: you tell I'm too cool. Don't be knock going to

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