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Speaker 1: And when you look at vivik Ramaswami and Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to a guy who's done his homework, who's

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Speaker 1: very outspoken about the need to cut spending and reform government.

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Speaker 1: His name is Congressmanship Roy from Texas. He's been a

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to him.

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Speaker 1: We'll lean on him about what he hopes to accomplish

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Speaker 1: Congressmanship Roy, it's great to have you on. A lot's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could agree more Merry Christmas. Right, It's exactly,

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Speaker 3: that's where I think I've been focusing a lot of

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Speaker 3: also my friends and administration to recognize it's game time

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Speaker 3: there's no there's no room for failure here. So I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the mandate of the popular vote

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Speaker 2: You had mentioned kind of like.

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Speaker 1: Thinking through about what you hope that this Republican trifecta

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Speaker 3: So let me make a picture of what we should do. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: firmly deliver on border security in a transformational way. Uh.

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration. And it's not just criminals. It is

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Speaker 3: the massive drain on the welfare state. It is the

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got time, Congressman, you can nerd out

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Speaker 3: Well, it was it looked the President ran on it

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Speaker 3: That's why we need transformational change. Get in secure the border,

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Speaker 3: So there's bucket one. Bucket two is destroy the bureaucratic state,

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Speaker 3: just absolutely decimate the bureaucratic state. That's bucket two. Bucket

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Speaker 3: three is we need to truly transform the overall spending,

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Speaker 3: so those are the kinds of things I'm looking at,

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Speaker 3: and I can go down the log list of other things.

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Speaker 3: fund and then go campaign against because that's what Congress does.

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Speaker 3: Republicans love to go around talking about, Ooh, I hate

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Speaker 3: the bureaucratic state. We need to cut it us up,

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Speaker 3: and they go write the check. They go in, there's

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Speaker 3: if you want President Trump to succeed, you need transformational legislation,

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Speaker 1: You know, I think one good thing about this incoming administration,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a different mentality.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I guess, how do you think that

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Speaker 3: So there's a headline on Fox right now says f

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Speaker 3: it is right, That's precisely what we're dealing with. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I've got good friends over there, Marty McCarey.

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Speaker 3: I'm the biggest proponent of having Bobby Kennedy go shake

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff. So to your point, yes, the

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Speaker 3: President has done a good job. Great job, dare I

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Speaker 3: say since early November picking people who are disruptors. You know,

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Speaker 3: Cash will be a disruptor at the FBI. We need that.

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Speaker 3: And so look, you know my friend Russ vote over

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Speaker 3: the Office of Management budget. He'll do a great job.

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Speaker 3: He's a very good friend. But we've got a lot

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Speaker 1: You know you had mentioned sort of some of the

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Speaker 3: Committee and here is like, why do we tax anybody

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Speaker 3: at all? Like if it doesn't matter. Right, Right now

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Speaker 3: we take in about pushing five trillion, like four point

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Speaker 3: seven or eight trillion whatever it is a year, that's

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Speaker 3: our revenues, right, but we're spending six and a half now,

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Speaker 3: pushing seven like two trillion more than that, right, So

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Speaker 3: my question is like, well, I mean that's bad. Like

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Speaker 3: anybody gets that, Like if your income is one hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, but your outflows are you know something in

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Speaker 3: the zip code of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 3: everybody would understand that's bad. Right, You can't do that

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Speaker 3: at some point you do want to do your savings

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Speaker 3: or you you know you're in debt. So my my

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Speaker 3: here is to you and everybody listening to this, is

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Speaker 3: why do we have taxes at all? Just zero it

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Speaker 3: out and print the money. But then, but then the

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Speaker 3: economists I'll go, well you can't do that. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: well why not. We're printing it for the two trillion.

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Speaker 3: We're printing it for one hundred billion dollars because we

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Speaker 3: feel bad for people in North Carolina and Georgia. We

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Speaker 3: shouldn't do that. So what I said, and I said

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Speaker 3: to some other college by the way, I had some

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Speaker 3: Wench donors giving me crap because I said, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to give more money to Ukraine. We had another

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Speaker 3: one hundred billion going to Ukraine and and they were complaining,

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Speaker 3: ship you don't understand it. You got to do it.

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Speaker 3: This is you know Churchill. We got to do it,

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Speaker 3: save the world. Okay, let me assume you believe that

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Speaker 3: you that you're correct. We should pay for it. Oh well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, but we just got to do it.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what you're you're a wealthy individual. Your

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Speaker 3: current tax rate is thirty seven percent. If I raise

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Speaker 3: your tax rate to the Clinton Air a tax rate

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Speaker 3: of forty three percent for a year. I will pay

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Speaker 3: for that one hundred billion dollars for Ukraine crickets. I

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Speaker 3: haven't heard a complaint with that individual.

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Speaker 2: Again, We've got more with Congressman ship Roy. But first,

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Speaker 2: the Christmas in.

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Speaker 1: Hankkah season is a time of hope and peace for

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Speaker 1: many of us, but for those in Israel facing the

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Speaker 1: ongoing war, it is a time for fear and uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: The hardships are felt by everyone, with many people struggling

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Speaker 1: to afford food and basic necessities during this holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Many living through the war in the Holy Land are

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Speaker 1: grieving the loss of loved ones while also enduring isolation

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Speaker 1: and hunger. We must not let them feel forgotten by

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world. That's why I'm partnering with

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Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Your special holiday

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Speaker 1: hope and answered prayers this holiday season. Go to support

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Speaker 1: eight or three two five. Obviously, one of the big

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Speaker 1: objectives of the incoming Trump administrations also to reform government,

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Speaker 1: particularly looking at areas like the FBI. I know that

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Speaker 1: political appointees, it's it's easy to you know, you can

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Speaker 1: fire them. The civil servants have statutory civil service protection.

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Speaker 1: I know that in on the towards the end of

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Speaker 1: his administration, he issued an executive order that reclassified categories

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Speaker 1: of federal employees, basically making them at will employees and

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Speaker 1: more easily fireable. But I guess how hard do you

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Speaker 1: think it'll be to fire people? And then like what

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Speaker 1: sort of things do you think they can do to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the dead weight or even worse, to

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Speaker 1: get rid of, you know, the deep state and people

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Speaker 1: actively resisting what this new administration wants to accomplish.

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Speaker 3: So on this one, I'm going to be a little

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Speaker 3: careful about not getting in front of the administration and

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Speaker 3: in front of Roz, Stephen Miller, Susie in the White House.

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Speaker 3: All the people are going to make decision about how

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Speaker 3: they want to go about firing bureaucrats, but their gun.

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Speaker 3: And there are ways to do it, and as you

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Speaker 3: said in the order and schedule, apps and other things

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Speaker 3: that you can do to remove bureaucrats. But there are

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Speaker 3: barriers and we need I think, some legislative fixes on

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Speaker 3: that front. And we're going to have to work through that, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I introduced legislation I think I don't know

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Speaker 3: four years ago now I can't remember, and have introduced

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Speaker 3: in each Congress that basically makes all government employees at will.

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Speaker 3: Now I get a little blowback from some of my friends,

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Speaker 3: particularly the law enforcement community, and they're like, well, that'll

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Speaker 3: just be used by a bad administration, by a Biden

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Speaker 3: administration or whatever. We'll be used against them, you know, politically,

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Speaker 3: they'll be used as a weapon, they'll fire the good guys. Well,

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Speaker 3: there is some concern with that. I get that, but

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Speaker 3: I think we've got to figure out what the right

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Speaker 3: way to do it is. You know it can you

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Speaker 3: aspire at will? Anybody who's above a GS thirteen? You know,

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Speaker 3: can you fire? How to just think through what we

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Speaker 3: need to do. But we've got to free up the

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Speaker 3: unitary executive. The president has to be able to come

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Speaker 3: in and has to be able to run the federal

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Speaker 3: government as he or she was elected to do. So

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Speaker 3: we must do it. There's no choice. And you know

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Speaker 3: what it looks like. I think we'll have to kind

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Speaker 3: of work through with the administration, but we're going to

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Speaker 3: have to find a way to allow the president to

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Speaker 3: do that. All right.

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Speaker 1: So we're ending on a positive note because we're heading

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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five or heading to Christmas. We've got

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Speaker 1: it new administration. Things are much more positive than the

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Speaker 1: last time we've talk to you. What are you the

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Speaker 1: most optimistic about over the next four years.

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Speaker 3: Look from a personal level, it might be one thing

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Speaker 3: from his family and life and you.

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Speaker 2: Know anything, the world's yst birth, the birth.

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Speaker 3: Birth sav Or Jesus Christ and celebrating that. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm most optimistic about is is, and this is

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Speaker 3: going to sound kind of nebulous, is that there's a

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Speaker 3: generation of kids now that I believe have looked at

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Speaker 3: crazy and has said I don't like that, And that

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Speaker 3: there is a hope to reclaim what made America great

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Speaker 3: and what will make America great again, and that is

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Speaker 3: to re establish the American ethos that you come here,

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Speaker 3: you work, and when I talk to him, I only

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Speaker 3: give you an example, a perfect example of somebody who

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Speaker 3: gives me hope. And there are the people's like Riley Gaines,

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Speaker 3: who's out there challenging all the DEI crap and all

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Speaker 3: the trans in sports, Chloe Cole who's challenging the mutilation

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Speaker 3: of young children. And she's wonderful, she testified in our hearings.

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Speaker 3: But there was a woman in Texas, Alexis nunger Ay,

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Speaker 3: and she's twenty seven years old and her twelve year

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Speaker 3: old daughter, Joscelyn, who she gave birth to when she

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Speaker 3: was I think fifteen. She chose life, but unfortunately Joscelyn

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Speaker 3: was taken from her, from us, from the world by

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Speaker 3: violent members of Venezuelan gangs in Houston released by Biden

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Speaker 3: under these ridiculous Parle programs. Alexis has been a rock star.

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Speaker 3: She's gone out in campaigning. She stared down the most

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Speaker 3: radical levesge. She wasn't that political. And I was talking

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Speaker 3: to her about her family who came here, and her

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Speaker 3: parents and her grandparents when they came here. Grandfather refused

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Speaker 3: to take any of the handouts or benefits or any

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Speaker 3: of that stuff, said I came here to achieved the American dream,

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Speaker 3: to learn and to earn my way. That is the

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Speaker 3: American wave. Ted Cruise's dad, who came here from Cuba

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Speaker 3: with one hundred bucks sewed into his boxer shorts, worked

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Speaker 3: at a diner in a building that's still right there

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Speaker 3: next to the University of Texas where he worked his

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Speaker 3: way through his school in Austin. That's the American dream.

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Speaker 3: My grandmother was a single mom in West Texas raising

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Speaker 3: my dad, who had polio. After she lost my grandfather

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Speaker 3: to cancer. She didn't come to the government asking for help.

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Speaker 3: She had two jobs and then became the first woman

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Speaker 3: elected county clerk in a rural West Texas county in

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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty I think two or three. That's the American dream.

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Speaker 3: No more excuses, Let's stop the nonsense. I am so

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Speaker 3: excited about of re establishing the American dream for a

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Speaker 3: new generation Generation X that came of age under Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 3: We're the ones who are now aging into running this country.

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Speaker 3: Thank God for the most part. With all due respect,

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Speaker 3: President Trump's the exception from the boomer generation who wants

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Speaker 3: to save America. But we now have a new generation

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Speaker 3: coming in who can join him that will be staffed

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Speaker 3: around him to save this country from the failures of

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Speaker 3: the previous generation. That is the first generation to make

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Speaker 3: our country worse off when they handed it down. We're

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Speaker 3: going to save it and the new generation coming in

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Speaker 3: are going to be with us to re establish the

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Speaker 3: American dream.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to argue with that. Very well,

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Speaker 2: said Congressman ship Roy. Enjoy having you on the show.

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Speaker 1: So glad to be able to have a more optimistic

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Speaker 1: conversation than some of the ones passed with under the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration. So a lot to look forward to and

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time, sir, and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Le's God bless and merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That was Congressman ship Roy of Texas. Appreciate him for

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Speaker 1: joining the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening

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Speaker 1: every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: I would to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting

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Speaker 1: the show together.

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Speaker 2: Until next time,