1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. Many of us watch 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: him on Fox News, so I'm thrilled he would take 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: time out of his amazingly busy day and talk with 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: me about his new book, To Rescue the American Spirit, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt, and the Birth of a Superpower. I'm, of 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: course talking about Brett Bhaer. He's the author of six 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: New York Times bestsellers, including two others in this current series, 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: To Rescue the Republic and To Rescue the Constitution. I'm 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: really pleased to welcome my guest, who has been amazingly 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: busy covering everything that's going on, Brettbear. He is the 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: chief political anchor for Fox News Channel and the anchor 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: and executive editor of a special Report with Brett Baer. 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: He's also host a Fox News audio, the Brettbear Podcast. Brett, 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: welcome and thank you for joining me again on News World. 15 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Mister speaker, It's always great to be back with you. 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: Now, before we dive into the book, obviously with anything 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: going on, I just have to ask you, with all 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: of your best experience, what's your reflection on the last 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: couple of days. 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: I just think it's a major moment. We'll see how 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: it pans out in the long term. But call it 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: historic seems like we're sliding it a bit. The fact 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: that President Trump and his administration could get all sides 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: to get to this point, to get those images of 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: twenty living hostages and the reuniting with the families. You know, 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: I think it changed the world for that short part. 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: I do believe that it could be a paradigm shift 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: in the region. There seems to be just by talking 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: to people in the region that I've talked to for 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: many years. By him, there's buy him to try to 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: get to a solution. So I think just reporting on 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: its facts is historic and big, but I think we 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: have a lot yet to report about what it's going 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: to look like in the Middle East. Could change the 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: face of the Middle East. 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was astonishing and I don't remember any 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: president who quite achieved all that on one day, so 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable. But now home and he's home to 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: a government shutdown. You're a real pro about these things. 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: What's your sense of what happens there? 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: You know, there is this standoff, and it is almost 43 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: reversed about what we've seen before. Democrats previously have been 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: very pro continuing resolution and clean crs and funding the 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: government to battle another day on the specifics of appropriation. 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Now it's exactly the opposite. You know, as far as 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: the political fallout, I'm not sure you know who's going 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: to feel it most right now. I think Democrats may. 49 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: But I think that now as the checks are going 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: to stop coming out to folks, that there's going to 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: be increasing pressure and we'll see which side blinks. 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: You of course cover the daily news to a remarkable degree, 53 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: but you also have this passion for presidential biographies, and 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: every time I've interviewed you have been fascinated because you 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: pick up things that nobody else has picked up. Tell 56 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: us why you chose. 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: Theodore Roosevelt each one of the presidents that I've written about, 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: I looked the speaker at at soda straw moment that 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: maybe was overlooked in history, that perhaps changed our perspective 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: of how we as a country operated or how we 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: look at that particular president. For Teddy Roosevelt, the entire focus, 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: the thing that makes him so consequential is that he 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: chose to make America broader in the world, decided that 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: we needed to be forward leaning in the way that 65 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: we dealt with the world. He was also a larger 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: than life figure, who I mean is just chuck full 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: of stories and anecdotes, which makes for great page turning 68 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: in writing, and he was prolific in writing himself. But 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: I think that his ability to sense that the US 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: needed to be forward leaning was kind of what brought 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: me to him at the turn of the century. A 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: president that was looking to the new world and saying 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: America needed to lead in the world. 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: He's fascinating, h because he's past so much stuff in 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: his life and he believed in such an active, energetic approach. 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: In some ways, there's a parallel I think with Trump, 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: just in the sheer explosion of human energy. 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: I agree, and I make those comparisons in the intro 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: and the kind of my summary in the book. There 80 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: are some similarities with President Trump, that larger than life figure, 81 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: the person who loved interacting with the press and was 82 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: controversial at times, but also captivated the American people to 83 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: the point where there was this sort of joy about 84 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: it all. He was not and he did not like 85 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: to go with the status quo. He saw that all 86 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: throughout his life as a police commissioner, as a legislator 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: in the New York State Legislature, as New York Governor, 88 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: as Vice president, and then obviously he's president as the 89 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: result of assassination of President McKinley. 90 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think of the parallel in terms 91 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: of peacemaking with Teddy's role in bringing in Japan and 92 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: Russia to Portsmouth and getting them to negotiate and end 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: of the Russo Japanese War. Different style in a way, 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: but very similar effort to get to peace and to 95 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: get foreign countries to pay attention. 96 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: It was largely overlooked he brokers this agreement in the 97 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: Russo Japanese War, and it seemed maybe obscure at the 98 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: moment in the big picture, but that is actually the 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: moment that I think it's America's entry into a larger 100 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: global role, and the world sees the US as the 101 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: person and the country that could bring that together. 102 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: You know. 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: In the wake of that, he then does something that 104 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan would echo, peace through strength. He wants to 105 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: show how powerful the US is. Proceeds to paint all 106 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: of the battleships from gray to white, and it calls 107 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: it the Great White Battleships and sends them out around 108 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: the world in a tour to show the magnificent navy 109 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: that the US has, and it had an effect, and 110 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: the world paid attention and suddenly we were bigger. 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: Am I correct that he did not actually have the money 112 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: to go all the way around, and he said, I 113 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: want to send the ships out, and the Congress is 114 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: either going to provide the money or they're going to 115 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: sit out there. 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And when he started out, they didn't 117 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: know how far they were going to go because they 118 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: were unfunded. But after its magnificent launch and the sun 119 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: opens up, it's just a beautiful thing. It's perceived in 120 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: the world's eyes. It's a big deal in Congress laments 121 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: and moves forward in terms of presidential leadership with a 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: reluctant Congress. That's one of the great stories in American history. 123 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: That's true. How he rolled the dice and they came around. 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: You open up things I had never thought about. And 125 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: I really like the degree to which you see Roosevelt 126 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: not just as president, but is this extraordinary cultural figure 127 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: capturing a version of America at a moment when we 128 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: were really trying to think through identify ourselves. Can you 129 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about his eighteen ninety nine Strenuous 130 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: Life speech. Preson sort of captures the essence of Roosevelt. 131 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does. It's his entree into how he 132 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: feels about life. He thinks that you should take life 133 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: and really be dedicated to it. He later obviously does 134 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: what later became the Man in the Arena speech after 135 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: leaving the presidency, but that same theme of the American 136 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: heart declaring it good. The country's bristling with opportunity, and 137 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: he wants to take it by the horns. Each one 138 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: of these presidents I wrote about has some effort to 139 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: go through, some cross to bear in there. Growing up 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: some crucible teddy. Roosevelt was horrific asthma, and they didn't 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: think he was going to mount to much. In fact, 142 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: his parents tried everything to break the asthma. They even 143 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: had him smoking cigars and drinking strong coffee, which was 144 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: supposed to get rid of it. It didn't have made 145 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: him sick, but they made him go outside and breathe 146 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: the fresh air, and that's what led him to the 147 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: Great Plains later in North Dakota. He is this free 148 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: spirit who engages a bristling bustling, expanding America, and he's 149 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: almost a caricature of what America would become. 150 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: In terms of his scale. I think, if I remember correctly, 151 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: he wrote a book about the birds of New York. 152 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: When he was still in his teens. He writes a 153 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: two volume history of the Naval War of eighteen twelve, 154 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: which is still because it Saturday first right piece of work, 155 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and he did that, I think in his early twenties. Man, 156 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: this is a guy. I think he wrote forty some books. 157 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Altogo did amazing. 158 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: He was really prolific, especially when it came to that. 159 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: For most of his life he believed he was going 160 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: to be a scientist. That outdoor part to solve the 161 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: asthma got him interested in specimens and birds and all 162 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: kinds of things, and his father said it was a 163 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: good idea. He collected specimens and almost had a museum 164 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: in their house to the point where they traveled overseas. 165 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: His brother Elliot would room with him. And Elliott came 166 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: to their father and said, Dad, I need my own room. 167 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: And the father said, you can't have your own room. 168 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Why do you need your own room? And he walked 169 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: him back to the room and there was Teddy Roosevelt 170 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: on this European trip, had collected all these dead birds 171 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: and entrails in the bathtub and all this stuff that 172 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: had become a museum in the hotel, and the father said, Elliott, 173 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: you can have your own room. So he always wanted 174 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: to be a scientist. But that was something that he 175 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: always thought he wanted to continue, and that stream of conservationism. 176 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: Really as president, he makes big strides and changes the 177 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: way America looks today based on what happened back then. 178 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Why do you think he organized the rough Riders to 179 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: go to Cuba. 180 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: First of all, he was very into helping Cuba fight 181 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: off Spain. He believed that we were not answering the 182 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: call and their need. And having been out west and 183 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: having interacted with these characters out there, he fell in 184 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: love with them. But he also had his Northeastern college guy, 185 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: the college Dandies, who wanted to join up with him. 186 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: So he put them together in this cornucopia of fighters 187 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: that became the Rough Riders, And the stories of that 188 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: are really just chuck full of these anecdotes of these 189 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: two sides of the wild West and the Northeast College 190 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: guys fighting in San Juan What he was always about 191 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: was leadership. It wasn't charge, it was follow me up 192 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: the hill. He came back from that literally a hero 193 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: and somebody that the world paid attention to. Now, I 194 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: will say, to be all fair, he had a number 195 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: of press reporters that traveled with him, so the stories 196 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: coming out were very focused on that group. So it 197 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: was pretty good early days of a podcast or something 198 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: with the reporters. 199 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: Really well, you know, there's a great story in one 200 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: of the biographies in Roosevelt. Well, they get down to Tampa, 201 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: try to get to Cuba. The whole thing's chaos is 202 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: badly organized. Roosevelt commanders a ship and noticed the two 203 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: leading war correspondents trying to get to Cuban says, oh, 204 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: why do you come ride with me? 205 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: That sound like Trump or what? 206 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? And the biographer clothed by saying, and so the 207 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: greatest self propagandist of the nineteenth century merrily sailed off 208 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: to war with two war correspondents in tow. Trump would 209 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: have admired that. And I have a hunch that Trump, 210 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: probably to some extent, seasoned Roosevelt a four runner of 211 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: what he would do. 212 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: Definitely, I joke about having all those reporters. There clearly 213 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: was heroism and there were big acts, and obviously some 214 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: of those rough riders didn't make it back, but the 215 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: stories of that live on forever. And he was savvy 216 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: enough to see that as he was commander in that 217 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: ship to go over to Cuba. You know, he also 218 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: didn't fit a mold. Sometimes you didn't know what Teddy 219 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Roosevelt was going to do. So that's the battle between 220 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, Republican and conservatism and progressivism. He had this 221 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: thought that you have to be the leader, but you 222 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: also have to take care of the lowest among us, 223 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: and he brought that to the presidency. 224 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: One of the things you bring up, I'd never seen 225 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: the story of how Roosevelt operated after McKinley was shot 226 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and he'd gone up there, he'd been faithfully 227 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: by his side, and then thought he was recovering, so 228 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: he went off hiking, and all the stuff I've read 229 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: about Roosevelt, I have never read this section. 230 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So he gets the word that McKinley's been shot 231 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: at the Buffalo Exposition, makes his way there, but is 232 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 2: told and his friends say, he never really thinks, oh 233 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: this is the end. He doesn't think that this is 234 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: how he's going to become president, and almost it's in 235 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: his mind that that's not going to happen. The doctors 236 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: say that he is recovering McKinley, and to the point 237 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: where they say, go ahead, continue your family vacation. He 238 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: goes on to the Adirondacks and he is way out 239 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: of civilization when a shot rings out as he's hiking 240 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: on the top of Mountain Mercy, the tallest of those peaks, 241 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: and it is a local guy who has been sent 242 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: to get him with a telegram saying the situation has 243 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: gotten well worse. By the time he makes it down 244 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: and gets in the carriage, with a treacherous ride to 245 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: the train station, they reach him again to say McKinley 246 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: had died. So by the time he gets to Buffalo, 247 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: he pays his respects. He says to the cabinet he's 248 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: not going to change. He's going to continue on with 249 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: the McKinley policies, which lasted for some time, but not 250 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: that long, because he is an individual man. I mean, 251 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: he is I think the beginning of the real progressive movement, 252 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: and it's I think part of his energy level. But 253 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: also I have to take one divergence in terms of 254 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: the point you make, which is exactly right that in 255 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: many ways Teddy Rosat is a bigger impact as a 256 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: cultural figure. Somebody once said he was probably the most 257 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: popular president since Washington. Share briefly the whole story of 258 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: Teddy's bear. I tell you the entire life story of Teddy. 259 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: Roosevelt has this kind of larger life figure, and he 260 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: sets up Sagamore Hill in New York as his home base. 261 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: It's his escape, and he is a hunter. He has 262 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: it lined with bison and polar bears. And I talked 263 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: to Tweed Rose about his great grandson, and he said, 264 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: there was nothing like being in this house. There were 265 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: so many things for kids to play with, you know. 266 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: When the kids there were six, all five with Edith, 267 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: one from Alice. When they lived in the White House, 268 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: it was NonStop fun. There were times during the Oval 269 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Office where he'd be meeting with dignitaries and at four 270 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon, the kids would come in and say, paw, 271 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: it's time, and he would wish goodbye to whoever he 272 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: was with, and he would go play with the kids. 273 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: And there were animals that ended up in the White House. 274 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: There were horses that were on the second floor. There 275 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: were bicycles that were going down the hallway, and he 276 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: had this larger than life laughter that you would hear 277 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: through the halls of the White House. And you know, 278 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: some of those figures obviously came back in these stories. 279 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: It's funny because when I go occasionally to the East Room, 280 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: I find myself thinking about that the kids rode horses 281 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: on a rainy day, they're inside the White House. 282 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: Inside the White House. 283 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: There's just sort of classically did on Roosevelt. Part of 284 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: the tragedy of his life was that he splits the 285 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Republican Party in nineteen twelve. Although fascinatingly it's the beginning 286 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: of having primaries. He wins the primaries. It's just that 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: the old machine States stick with Taft and Roosevelt I 288 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: think was enormously frustrated by what was going on in 289 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: Europe and his sense that Wilson just didn't get it. 290 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his fight against passivism and his battles with 291 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: Woodrow Wilson continue after that. But a lot of people 292 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: point to the fact that the Bullmost Party and its 293 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: surge when he runs gives Wilson the win at that time, 294 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: at that crucial time. So historians will look back and 295 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: say Conservatives bristled at Teddy Roosevelt in that time. You know, 296 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: he didn't provide a challenge in those primaries. The machine 297 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: which Teddy Roosevelt fought against every step of the way 298 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: as legislature, a police commissioner, as governor, as vice president, 299 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: as assistant secretary of the Navy, all of the machine 300 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: circled around and it changed the dynamic. 301 00:17:37,520 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: As obviously Woodward Wilson would eventually lead to World War One. 302 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: And Roosevelt's case something that I think forgotten that history. 303 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: But he actively supported African Americans, the first president to 304 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: actually have dinner in the White House with an African 305 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: American leader, and he really did represent an effort to 306 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: bridge beyond slavery and segregation in a way which tragically 307 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson totally reversed as a guy born in Virginia, 308 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: Wilson was totally for segregation. But it does strike me 309 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: that part of Roosevelt's progressivism was this sense of inclusion 310 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: that really had a big impact. 311 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent, Ryan kill Me 312 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: kind of went down that road with his book, and 313 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: I think that where Teddy Roosevelt was about increasing the 314 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: tents and not shrinking it, and some of those policies 315 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: crossed over, and I think he didn't see skin color 316 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: at that time. What really was interesting is that he's 317 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: president at forty two years old. He dies at age sixty, 318 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: his son Quentin dies in war in a plane crash, 319 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: and he really never physically recovers. He says he does, 320 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: and he still gives speeches, but the broken heart eventually 321 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: leads back to his death. In January of nineteen nineteen. 322 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Died in sleep, and his vice president said he had 323 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: to go in his sleep because Teddy Roosevelt would have 324 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: fought it off in the daytime set. 325 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Also, I think been weakened when he went to the 326 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Amazon and on that trip apparently caught a whole bunch 327 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: of tropical diseases. 328 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: They've survived it, but that trip down the Amazon was 329 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: really death defying, and at the time people thought crazy. 330 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: But he came back with all kinds of anecdotes, another 331 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: book about the Amazonian flora and fauna, and barely survived. 332 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: But he did survive. 333 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: I suspect part of the difference was he had done 334 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Africa earlier, but the part of Africa he was in 335 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: was dramatically less disease. Written had he gone up the Congo, 336 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: he'd have understood the Amazon basin. I think he underestimated 337 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: how really difficult that was going to be. And I 338 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: think at one point they thought he's going to die 339 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: on the Amazon trip. 340 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: A one hundred percent and there are amazing stores. How 341 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: he survives, has to go by himself in a canoe 342 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: to get down river as he's fighting malaria and other diseases. 343 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: It's so hard to igine anybody having quite the frontiersman outlook, 344 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: because you pointed out earlier this is a guy who 345 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: has asthma and is weak when he's like a teenager, 346 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: and just besides by sure will power that he's going 347 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: to strengthen himself and strengthen himself until he's able to 348 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: be a frontiersman, a rancher, hunter, extraordinary character. 349 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: He was larger than life. He's only five ten, but 350 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: he was larger than life. That time out West really 351 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: pardoned him. He got a lot of grief for wearing glasses. 352 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: They called him four eyes. But he was a boxer 353 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: and when somebody came at him, he took him down 354 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: the story of being in a bar and some guy 355 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: with two guns comes up and says, four eyes, you're 356 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: gonna pay the bar tab and Teddy Roosevelt laughs and 357 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: the guy says, no, I'm serious, and Roosevelt hauls off 358 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: and hits him and then hits him again. The guy 359 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: falls and hits his head on the bar, passes out, 360 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: and the whole bar erupts saying, we hate that guy. 361 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: They took him out to the shed, and that was 362 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: the beginning of his time in North Dakota. 363 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: Those are the kind of things that become legends. 364 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 365 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: When he campaigns for governor in eighteen ninety eight after Cuba, 366 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: they actually have a bugler on the train who blows 367 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: the cavalry charge as they leave each station. 368 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: And he brought rough riders each stop. He pointed out 369 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: a couple of the guys that were with him on 370 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: that journey in San Lan. 371 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: To your point earlier, but he was such a reformer 372 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: that the machine in New York was desperate to get 373 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: rid of him, and that's how he ends up on 374 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: the ticket with McKinley and McKinley's great political advisor, Mark Hanna, 375 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: who's a great businessman for some reason wasn't around. And 376 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: when he gets back he learns that they named Roosevelt 377 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: vice president. Of the story is he said, utilize there's 378 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: only one heartbeat between that damn cowboy in the White House. 379 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: But they thought they could take this reformer, put him 380 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: in a spot. This is the days before the Dick 381 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: Cheney vice presidency where the vice president was just kind 382 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: of a figureheaded nothing much more, and put him in 383 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: that slot and control them because they believed that he 384 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: was such a reformer and troublemaker that he could be 385 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: a problem for the party. 386 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Then he probably would have been. I think given your 387 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: schedule and all the things you're doing, you also have 388 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: a pretty serious upcoming book tour and will to invite 389 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: people to come and hear you and have a chance 390 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: to meet you, because again your a national figure because 391 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: of your show. And you're going to be correct me 392 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: if I hit this wrong. October twenty fifth, you're going 393 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: to be at the Vero Beach Book Center. 394 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: I am big, big store. 395 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: And then on the twenty sixth, you're going to be 396 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: at the Barnes and Noble in the Villages. Is that right? 397 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: It is you're cross crossing the country. 398 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: I am, I am. 399 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: Then I go to California and you're going back on 400 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: the twenty seventh to the Nixon Presidential Library, and the 401 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: following night you'll be in Seebe Valley at the Ronald 402 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Reagan Presidential Foundation. 403 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: You know, I've done this tour. 404 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: That's quite a tour. 405 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: It is, it is. I've done this kind of path 406 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: in each one of these books, and it has been 407 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: very successful. They've been three number one, so I figured 408 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: why change. There's just a lot of history buffs that 409 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: go to all of those spots that show up in 410 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: big numbers. And I love to talk about the book 411 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: and take questions and they all do it well. 412 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: If you're a serious book writer, you realize you have 413 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: to spend as much time selling the book as you 414 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: spent writing it. That's what a lot of authors don't 415 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: quite get. They're so exhausted when they're done writing. They're 416 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: just kind of go, oh my god, I can't do this. 417 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: That starts the journey. That's right. 418 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: You're also a great golfer. 419 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: I played in. 420 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: College and you managed to keep it up right. And 421 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: the little white ball have had a long relationship. I 422 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: just have to have, because golf tasts time. To stay 423 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: as good as you are takes time. And you have 424 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: a show every night, which is I think probably the 425 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: high point of news delivery at Fox and does a 426 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: great job routinely makes it seem like it's just normal, 427 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: although I suspect you work at it pretty hard and 428 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: then you write books and then you go sell books. 429 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you organize your time the golf? 430 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: I usually do one time a week, either at balls, 431 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: or I player with my son or something transpires. I 432 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: just try to keep it up and see if you 433 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: can hold onto that handicap. Right now, I'm a walking wallet. 434 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm essentially passing money friends. But the show, I have 435 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: a great staff and we do work on it, and 436 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: it is different every day, and it's like drinking from 437 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: the fire hose, so that takes time. 438 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: The books have been just a labor of love, and 439 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: I have a real great blueprint. I have a super 440 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: researcher who just parts at presidential libraries and gets these 441 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: nuggets that become the blueprint and the quilt of how 442 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: we look at this book. And it usually it takes 443 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: about a year and a half. I pingpong back and 444 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: forth with my co author and we come up with 445 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: a plan. The first book on Three Days in January 446 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: A by Dwa D. Eisenhower, took three years, three and 447 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: a half years. But then I kind of got this 448 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: blueprint and this soda straw look at different moments of 449 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: presidential life, and I've figured it out down to a year. 450 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: Half the amazingly competent I know you're going to continue 451 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: to educate the country. I want to thank you for 452 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: joining me. Your new book To Rescue the American Spirit, 453 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt and the Bertho Superpower is available now on 454 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: Amazon and in bookstores everywhere. And want to remind our 455 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: listeners they can watch Special Report with Bredbaar weeknights at 456 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: six pm Eastern on the Fox News Channel. 457 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Brett, Thank you, miss Speaker. 458 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Thank you to Mike Us Brett Baer. You can get 459 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: a link to buy his new book, To Rescue the 460 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: American Spirit Teddy Roosevelt in the Birth of a Superpower 461 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: on our show page at Newtsworld dot com. 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