WEBVTT - 11/18/21 DPS Hour 2 Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Oh, it's our two with this Thursday Dan

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<v Speaker 1>and The Dane's Stan Patrick Show. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Indians will officially become the Cleveland Guardians on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three hours from now. The Guardians team store will

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<v Speaker 1>open Friday at nine am with all new merchandise. Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it look like for the Cleveland Guardians gear on Friday? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it appears like it's last call for Cleveland Indians here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to their website, you could still buy

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<v Speaker 1>classic Cleveland Indians gear. That's good change though, and the

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<v Speaker 1>font style of Guardians looks really close to Cleveland Indians.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing their best that it kind of blends in

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<v Speaker 1>there a little bit. Are you allowed to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Indians previously, like the Washington Redskins, like Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs Redskins teams, can you say that? Are you allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to say that? You're allowed to refer to them as

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cleveland Indians. Are you allowed to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>them the team that went to the World Series and

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<v Speaker 1>faced the Cubs, team that played the Marlins. Do you'd

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<v Speaker 1>say the Cleveland Guardians even though they weren't the Guardians

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<v Speaker 1>back then. Yes, Todd, Cleveland baseball team. Just to play

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<v Speaker 1>it safe, just kind of jump in on that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you don't offend anybody at all. Cleveland baseball team, Yes, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>And do you think this is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>toughest name change to get used to? I still call

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers the San Diego Chargers about fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, the Las Vegas Raiders. I've got it almost down,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I'm gonna be able to call

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<v Speaker 1>them the Cleveland Guardians on a regular basis till probably

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<v Speaker 1>three years. Yeah. It's one of those where I still

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<v Speaker 1>catch myself saying San Diego Chargers always or Oakland Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Just feels like it's so ingrained. You know, the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>football team, you know, sometimes I'll slip up and say

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins. Probably going to do that with the Cleveland Indians.

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<v Speaker 1>Age seven seven, three d P Show email address DP

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<v Speaker 1>at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DPS show

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<v Speaker 1>and memoration of the thirty fifth anniversary of Hoosiers. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter will include an exclusive interview I did with Maris Villanis.

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<v Speaker 1>He is better known as Jimmy Chitwood in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He shares how he got hired for the role, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as some great stories behind the scenes with Gene

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<v Speaker 1>Hackman and Dennis Hopper. I guess they found nineteen more

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the movie and they had a special screening

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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend. Yeah, Paul, Yeah, there's a thing called

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<v Speaker 1>the Knightstown jim And where they filmed all the Hickory

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<v Speaker 1>home games in the movie. And there was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>other scenes, like Buddy the point Guard had this back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth with Gene Hackman and it was cut from

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<v Speaker 1>the film. We had him on the actor his name

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<v Speaker 1>is Brad Long and he said he had this long

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<v Speaker 1>scene with Gene Hackman that was you imagine being a

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<v Speaker 1>non actor doing that, And they showed the entire thing

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<v Speaker 1>to this crowd. We got football coming up tonight, Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Falcons, Thursday Night Football and everything about this though,

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like how much of twenty eight three

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<v Speaker 1>is mentioned? Is there an over under how many times

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to three is mentioned, even though Tom Brady's

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<v Speaker 1>not playing obviously, But then I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>players are left over from that Super Bowl? But is

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<v Speaker 1>that the most famous super Bowl in history when you

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<v Speaker 1>consider what you thought it was and what it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being that you had overtime, the Falcons didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance in overtime. What that meant for careers? Brady

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<v Speaker 1>adding another, Belichick adding another. If Matt Ryan has a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl with an MVP, no doubt Hall of famer.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened with dan Quinn head coach Kyle Shanahan left

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<v Speaker 1>to become the head coach of the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the impact on that game. But that's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>tonight with the Patriots six and a half point favorites

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlantic. Yes, Tom, what do you think with the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL the last couple of weeks, in some of the

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<v Speaker 1>weird games and some of the upsets, all the mac

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<v Speaker 1>Jones hype is going to come back to get him

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<v Speaker 1>and we've off we jinxed mac Jones and somehow Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>is going to eat one out tonight. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we've jinxed him. It just feels like he

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<v Speaker 1>has played well. They've played well. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those dangerous games where if they play well, he plays well,

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<v Speaker 1>then the mac Jones love continues another week. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like we've almost gone week to week

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of quarterbacks because we start out with

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<v Speaker 1>Jamis Winston all Jamis Winston dark Horse MVP, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went really okay, and then the next week he was

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<v Speaker 1>not on a horse at all and now out for

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<v Speaker 1>the season. By the way, his head coach, Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>is going to join us coming up, and Sean is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has a cameo in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sean Payton is portrayed by Kevin James. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix movie and the release date will be January twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Home Team, and this is Adam Sandler. He

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<v Speaker 1>has as Kevin James playing Sean Payton, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>when Sean Payton got suspended, went to his hometown and

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<v Speaker 1>coached his son's Pop Warner team. Kevin James is in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Lautner's in it. I got a cameo in it. Yes, yes, Pony,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty surprised Kevin James is playing Kevin James does

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<v Speaker 1>not look anything like Sean Payton. I'm sure it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to look different in the movie, but just body style,

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<v Speaker 1>head hairstyle. Yeah, that might be a stretch. Yeah, yes, Ton.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose I have to see a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about what it's all about, but that Sean Payton does

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<v Speaker 1>have a cameo in that movie. Oh, he doesn't sneak

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<v Speaker 1>him in this? Uh okay. I wonder if he got

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to pick who he wanted to play him,

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<v Speaker 1>like Billy Bean of the Oakland A's Brad Pitt takes

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<v Speaker 1>that role. And if you're Billy Bean, you're like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yes, seton, So is this movie based

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<v Speaker 1>on Sean Payton or is it about Sean Payton? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like a Sean Payton like character or is it

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<v Speaker 1>actually it's Sean Payton Sean Payton. Yeah. Kevin James as

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton. Rob Schneider's also in the movie, in case

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<v Speaker 1>you were wont Yeah, of course, all of Sandler's who

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<v Speaker 1>does he play Drew Breest? How far are we going here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like de Niro? If he can play Drew Brees, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Glovin see, I like it at least. Kevin James,

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<v Speaker 1>as a sports fan like al Paccino, clearly had never

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<v Speaker 1>watched a football game in his life before any given Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>He certainly never played in a game, Al Pacino. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard other actors interview said Pacino did not know much

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<v Speaker 1>about football going to that movie. That's when you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to rely on somebody's acting ability. Can you act

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<v Speaker 1>like you know something about football? Al Todd? Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>every inch gets your foot, You give me three feet,

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<v Speaker 1>we get a yard, one hundred yards, we get a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna give us that inch? That inch is the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a win and a loss. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know that you guys are gonna give me that Inche

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta fight for each other, bad inch, Thank you too.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he also played Joe Paterno. He was great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that he was convincing there, but that felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it was less about being that on the field

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<v Speaker 1>coach hyping up your team. And I guess I had

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<v Speaker 1>a coach who did that, I'd have I'd get behind

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<v Speaker 1>some taller teammates and just giggle because I'd be going

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Yeah. I think my problem was he dressed

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<v Speaker 1>like pat Riley in the movie, and football coaches don't

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<v Speaker 1>dress like that. No, No, he's short of playing an

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA coach in a way, a little bit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Michael Douglas, you know, took on the persona pat Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>at least how he looked when he did Wall Street. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to look like pat Riley. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and movies. Uh what's his name? Billy Bob Thornton

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<v Speaker 1>in uh Friday and Lights. I thought he pulled that

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<v Speaker 1>one off and then um was it. Varsity Blues might

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<v Speaker 1>not be the greatest football movie all time, but John

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<v Speaker 1>Voight can play a bad guy and a dislikable guy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Washington? Was he good? And remember I never saw

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<v Speaker 1>the movie? You remember the Titans? Yeah, he was good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna make Herbstreet mad. That's his pyramid of movies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the peak. Herbstreet will go to the wall on

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. You gotta see that. That's pretty good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the other one? Radio? Was there? Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a yeah? Yeah, I didn't see that one either. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I agree with Paul like I think. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>The Titans is a must sort of a musty football guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Patton plays the defensive coordinator mock us. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how about who played the blind side? That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Ronald Reagan? And win one for the Gipper. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that a famous old movie? Yeah? I think so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see where Sean Payton is playing. Looks like a mechanic.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some on set pictures here with uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>got Kevin James at Sean Payton. I got Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>as maybe that's a mechanic. Yeah. Look looks like he

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<v Speaker 1>just rotated someone's tires or something to take a little lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks a little like Frankie Munyez, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit older Frankie Munez Malcolm in the middle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? All right? We could see that

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<v Speaker 1>could play his dad. Kevin James looks like Dana White,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. He looks like Dana White, Ate J glazerd

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<v Speaker 1>Watt Steelers go to La to face off against Justin

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<v Speaker 1>and Peacock. Earlier this week, Mike Florio, who joined US

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<v Speaker 1>in the first Hour, wrote a post on Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Talk dot com about the NFL someday expanding from thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two to maybe forty teams. It makes sense because you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about financially making sense. This is about gambling and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have more inventory, more opportunities, the NFL is

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<v Speaker 1>going to make a billion dollars off gambling. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>dipping their toes into it right now. That's why when

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<v Speaker 1>I go back what eight nine years ago, the outcry

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<v Speaker 1>from the commissioner and talking about the evils of gambling,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went those are the kind of comments that

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to bring back because it was inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL was going to embrace it all the other

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<v Speaker 1>leagues because all they wanted to do was what's our

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<v Speaker 1>slice of the pie. That's all it came down to.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't worried about you know, you've taking your rent

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<v Speaker 1>money and you know a two team parlay. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't care. They wanted to know, Hey, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we get here, and what's going on in Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 1>with that lawsuit against stan Cronky for taking the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>out of there, Florio said, could lead to Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a settlement. Hey, how about we give you a franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Saint Louis is going to go yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we want another franchise in here. How about

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<v Speaker 1>if you give Saint Louis a franchise and you let

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis own it, sort of like the Green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? That does anybody? They're doing this in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been you know, topic that's been broached that.

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<v Speaker 1>How about, Hey, you don't want an owner to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the city, you own it, let the city profit shareholders

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<v Speaker 1>have a stock option, just like the Packers just did. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>why not do that? That way you can ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>that team's not leaving anytime soon. But when you start

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<v Speaker 1>to think about forty teams, do we have forty quality quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 1>And the answers, no, we don't. I mean, the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>are going with Joe Flacco this week, Saints are still

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<v Speaker 1>starting Trevor Simeon. Steelers may go to Mason Rudolph again.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff is banged up. Tim Boyle has been running

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<v Speaker 1>the practice for the Lions. The Cardinals Kyler Murray and

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<v Speaker 1>Colt McCoy are banged up. Last Sunday they played a

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<v Speaker 1>former Winnipeg Blue bomber, Chris Streveler. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>expansion here when it comes to quarterbacks, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks in the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the season, maybe some third string quarterbacks as well. Yes, mclovin,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Traveler. I have a piece of trivia here that

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<v Speaker 1>will bother one person. Okay, I was googling him yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess where he went to high school? Christian Straveler? Where

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<v Speaker 1>did he go to high school? Marion Catholic in Chicago?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly correct? Yes, I just google the Marrying Central Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>High School. Oh that's a different school. Oh. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to Maryon Central Catholic. I went to Marrying

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic in Chicago Heights Central Catholic. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a West Side or something. Crystal Lake, Illinois? Is that me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal Lake West? Oh, I saw mary I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Paul bragging about this guy all the time? And

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the CFL, Paul's favorite football league. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have fooled me. You could have stuck with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have liked Chris Devlaire. I loved him. Poll

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<v Speaker 1>question for this hour, Okay, so I put up whose

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<v Speaker 1>career would you a Matt Ryan or Drew Bledsoe. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost fifty fifty fifty three percent Matt Ryan. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot closer than I thought. Um, yeah, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you talk about twenty eight three too much,

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<v Speaker 1>people are clicking against Mac Ryan. Yeah. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bledsoe didn't have a good super Bowl the one he

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<v Speaker 1>played in. I think he threw four picks in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he went to two, but he wasn't a starter.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why we wanted to have Drew on well

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of reasons. You know, just talk football. But

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<v Speaker 1>also in that new documentary on Tom Brady, Bledsoe's the

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<v Speaker 1>star episode one. I mean he talks about they just

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<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl, Brady's first super Bowl and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stay with the team. The next day flies home

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<v Speaker 1>to Montana and he's lost his job. He knows he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be the quarterback for the Patriots again.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's skiing and he said he got on a

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<v Speaker 1>chairlift and he broke down crying because it finally started

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<v Speaker 1>to set in. This was my team until he got

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<v Speaker 1>hit by Mo Lewis. And we didn't know at the

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<v Speaker 1>time because you're watching Brady, you're not. He didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything special. Even in the Super Bowl, he didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything special, and all of a sudden, you go, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Bledsoew just lost his job. Remember the old adage, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't lose your job to an injury. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>case with Bill Belichick. All right, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton will join us. The Saint's head coach. Drew

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<v Speaker 1>on NBC and Peacock. I mentioned that Kevin James is

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<v Speaker 1>starring in a Netflix movie and Adam Sandler movie and

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<v Speaker 1>it's based on Sean Payton's one year sabbatical from the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He was suspended goes back to his hometown to coach

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<v Speaker 1>his son's Pop Warner team. Kevin James plays the role

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<v Speaker 1>of Sean Payton. B Sean Payton, the Saints head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>joins us on the program. Did you have any say

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<v Speaker 1>and who was gonna portray you? Coach? I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate I appreciate the pitch, but this was yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>was done kind of with Adam Sandler's group and my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter had done a little where are They Now piece

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<v Speaker 1>for NFL Network, Oh, a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was about that six or eight team and seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight players and the story of that season. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was condensed into maybe a five minute

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<v Speaker 1>hit on network. And Adam saw it and asked his

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<v Speaker 1>brother in law, my my, my daughter's boyfriend, Chris to

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<v Speaker 1>uh he said, write that movie. And that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a big deal for Chris. And you know, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't say that all the time. And long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here we are. Um, I'm sure Adam and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin and the rest of them from Happy Madison, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, looked at it and made their adjustments.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've I've kind of been just a bystander from

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<v Speaker 1>Afar and I'm sure it'll be um more of the

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<v Speaker 1>humorous tone. And uh yeah, I think so. Certain movies

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<v Speaker 1>repeat themselves like that, you know, whether it's the Bad

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<v Speaker 1>News Bears or the Mighty Giants or the Ducks or

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, the storyline. Yeah, but but

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<v Speaker 1>do you have and yet we still like them? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have script approval? Oh? Yeah, I read through it

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. Yes, And basically, um, there's some parts

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<v Speaker 1>in there that that are they're definitely funny in part

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie. And more importantly to me was my

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife, Beth's thoughts, and my son and my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people around me. You know, when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to where you're fifty seven, you're you're not as worried

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<v Speaker 1>about what other people think. But I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that my children and Beth felt good about them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's kind of interesting though, when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you have it based on your life, but I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, what did you learn about yourself when

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<v Speaker 1>you got suspended that year? Well, I would say there

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<v Speaker 1>were two things. You know. You you the first month,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're livid, your anger. You you I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a sham and try to be kind.

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<v Speaker 1>But you go through that like you can't believe the

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<v Speaker 1>way it unfolded and what was being said or portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>by by the League office. And and then secondly you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a long year if you

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<v Speaker 1>continue to wake up feeling like this, you know. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, So then you go through maybe there's three

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<v Speaker 1>stages that you know. The next stages you begin to

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what are we going to do here? And

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<v Speaker 1>I've recovered from an injury that happened actually in Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay on the sideline, and so I began working out

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, ran a half marathon, I mean training

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<v Speaker 1>like daily, and then coaching this team or being I

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<v Speaker 1>was an assistant. I wasn't the head coach. I was

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive coordinator of this sixth grade team that had

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<v Speaker 1>not really had any success. And here's the thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>It's this sounds crazy, but it's it's still the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You're teaching. There's a dynamic that you want to communicate

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<v Speaker 1>a subject matter, and you got to figure out what wins,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got to figure out how to do

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<v Speaker 1>that to win, and then you start winning, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the players believe, and then you win some more and

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<v Speaker 1>then they have confidence. And it's the same with the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth grade team as it is with an NFL team.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you show them your resume? I mean, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the head coaching job. You only an OC. So

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to listen. I didn't want to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the parents. Number One, we were back in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather I'm not going to deal with any parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather deal with the media or parents. The media,

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<v Speaker 1>the media. I've gone, honestly, and the parents were great.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've gone to a number of high school games

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<v Speaker 1>because my son played high school football, and I'm amazed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed and in awe or in shock of the

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<v Speaker 1>behavior or cluelessness that I observe in the bleachers. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just and I don't know if it's the parents trying

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<v Speaker 1>to live vicariously through their children or not maybe understanding

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<v Speaker 1>or or really failing to realize the bigger picture, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just the growth of their child's education. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about a sports. It could be the band

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<v Speaker 1>for gal, it could be arts. It's just part of

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<v Speaker 1>like growing up. And look, there's a few that I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that they can go on, maybe in playing college

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe I don't discount any of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>just some of the behavior or attitudes that you observe

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<v Speaker 1>or you just cringe. But now I would choose the

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<v Speaker 1>media every day over the parents, and so that was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the deal. I didn't have to visit with

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<v Speaker 1>the parents about why Johnny or Billy wouldn't playing or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Saint said coach Sean Payton at the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles on Sunday Thanksgiving hosting the Bills and then you

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<v Speaker 1>host the Cowboys. You're coming off back to back losses.

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<v Speaker 1>How long does it take to put a loss to

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<v Speaker 1>the side and move on. I would say, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's that twenty four hour maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer, maybe a day and a half or so,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on this one. This past weekend. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll ever get over, you know, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>just the way the way the game unfolded, how we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to play it, and then you know, to have

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things take place that took place. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's tough. It's tough because you dive into

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<v Speaker 1>a week with you know, your total preparation, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>um man, I think we just in a lot of ways. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen it happen each weekend with the officiating, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the hardest thing to get past, is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when when they're not up to speed maybe

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<v Speaker 1>or or or or it happened to the Bears, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a week a week and a half ago. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, if you've watched yourself on the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction in that game. But if they were thought bubbles,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to know what you were thinking. I think though, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly I can recall a little bit of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think in in you know, back at ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, i'd have been I think it was I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I may have been thinking that, but I was I

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<v Speaker 1>think a little bit calmer and just I hate getting

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it's expected we're like, you're numb.

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And but those kind of things can happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they just and and I look at that

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<v Speaker 1>more from an overall leadership perspective and training perspective, and

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<v Speaker 1>like that those problems start at the top, not at

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<v Speaker 1>the individual cruise. Yeah, yeah, I think you know, somehow

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<v Speaker 1>we got to reduce the variables. But can you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the league about that? Do you do they let

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<v Speaker 1>let you have a voice? Um, yeah, Look, I was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the competition committee for a while and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's just it's it's something that I know

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<v Speaker 1>other head coaches and general managers. I know most in

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<v Speaker 1>this profession believe in certain things and to help that change.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look, I know there's a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>in our positions that believe these guys should be full time.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that they should be coming back Monday in

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<v Speaker 1>centralized locations. How are seventeen crews ever going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the same page when, um, when there's a conference

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<v Speaker 1>call or a zoom call and then you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's for that's for another day right now. But coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the stakes are too high, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with gambling. I mean, this is big business.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that, Um, the NFL can afford full time officials. Listen,

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with you. I would agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you want to say to the betting public, we

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, we're taking this seriously. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>we have to improve, Yes, like we have to. And

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<v Speaker 1>and look, everyone, everyone watching and participating and involved in it,

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<v Speaker 1>deserves better. How close did you come to getting o

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<v Speaker 1>b j M? I thought, Look, we had good conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from here. I thought only he could answer that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought, I felt real positive. You're in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of game week, so you're preparing for another game.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>And look, if he's truly interested in coming, here's our pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what we think here, you know, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>that point you know he can sort through that and

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<v Speaker 1>we had several conversations. I would say close. The question

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<v Speaker 1>would be all along if LA had had an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that's where he was going to go. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Los Angeles really was an option until

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe middle of the process. Yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>fairly close. But I think only he would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to answer that. I wonder if Drew Brees was still

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback, would you would you have landed him? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think La. I'm meaning that in matters an area, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. Yeah, I believe that. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering about that that you know, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>him come back home and he can be the featured

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. Like I don't know, what is this like

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<v Speaker 1>your recruiting pitch as if you were a college coach

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to get somebody. Well, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>a very small, like micro I mean just in a

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<v Speaker 1>very small, quick two day process. I think this ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can you know in recruiting, for instance, there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain bullet point things that you need. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>the decision makers, what's most important? And I think LA

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<v Speaker 1>was important more than I think Los Angeles was important

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>for him, and and I think that I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you stand on the taunting rule? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's being over officiated. I said in

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<v Speaker 1>the discussions, I think I don't think any of us

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that discussed it saw it where it is. Now who

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>was asking for it? Coach? Because I didn't know that

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it was. You know this uh real dilemma that this

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is a big problem in the NFL with Yeah, look,

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I think here's But in fairness to that question, it's,

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<v Speaker 1>like anything else, the line's got to be eventually bright.

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you start having players standover players, you know,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>crawl over players with their crots, that that there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be like, hey, if if if you and

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I watch a game and we say, just sit next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other and turn to each other and we

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<v Speaker 1>say taunting, that's probably a taunting foul you with me, yeah,

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And and we would see it and think, oh, that's

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's too much, Like you can't do that. Um. But

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I think then therein lies the challenge of communication as to, hey,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>this is I'm going to show fifty clips and you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me which ones you think should be called taunting.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's no different than roughing the passer. So what's

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the first word, And it's roughing. And so if I

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<v Speaker 1>turn to you and we watched the game, I think

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>we'd be able to say that's probably roughing. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the word roughing the passer because if I

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>graze your helmet, I didn't rough you, and I why

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>can't that be a five yard No? I like the

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>word roughing. I like the word roughing, all right, And

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to call anything if I graze anyone

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in football, okay, but they do. All right, let's let's

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>go all the way back to let's just shoots and ladders.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>We're back at the very the very beginning of the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to get fined, coach. No, I won't.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I won't. How much have you been Well, you lost

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a whole salary, But except for that, how many times

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>have you been fined by the league? Off? By the way,

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want why why didn't I never understood that?

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's not my money, but I like, man,

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.719
<v Speaker 1>you gotta I would have been livid, like you're going

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to take a salary away from me the whole season,

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm mad on your behalf. You're you're over at Maye.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>That was that was well, not ever, that was the

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>first two months that we talked about before. Man, you know,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>it was the the the anger, and it was look,

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it was it was done. It was done. It was

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a way to try to circumvent really with the rules

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>at that time were and that's it's five hundred thousand

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>at that time for a league employee. But um oh

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of money. How about we talk about

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>your team? How's your team doing? Coach? Going into this game,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I've never been able to come on the Damn Patrick

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Show and for a brief moment via telephone, feel like

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I made him like awkward or uncomfortable, and I just

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>felt like I did that. So teams doing good. We're

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>banged up a little bit. We go to Philly. We

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>do have this unique Thursday not Thursday night game, but

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's unusual. We play Thursday night Thanksgiving and then

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>we flip around and play again home Thursday versus the Cowboys.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna see the Eagles, that we're gonna see

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bills, and we're gonna see the Cowboys. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's like what three games that however

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>many days. But so I think part of his being

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.959
<v Speaker 1>the head coach is just being smart relative to how

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>much time were on our feet and how to manage

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the practice schedule, those type of things. What do you

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>what do you do against Tom Brady that other coaches

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>don't do? Why why are you successful against Brady? I look,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I think this number one, I think we have a

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>good defense. But you know what I mean, I think

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and if you have a good defense, and I think

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>then you know that's part of it. It's a hard

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>fought game. We unfortunately we weren't in the playoff game.

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think there are a lot of things that

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>go into winning. And if you're playing him and you're

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>turning the ball over at midfield, you're gonna pay. If

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you're playing him and you're not capitalized, you know, like

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>almost like there's not going to be these errors that

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you get when you're playing another player at that position,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and certainly that you know a player that that our

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>league has never seen at that position. So your margin

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>fr has to be sharp. And I think defense, you

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>have to have a good defense. I mean I think that. Look,

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>if you go back and remember the Tampa game in

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<v Speaker 1>New England and it was the return and the rebirth

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and holy cow, all right, I mean it was it

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>was unbelievable that the the media attention to that game

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and man, new England's got a good defense and that

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>game was I think down to the final score with

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie quarterback. And so I do think it starts with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously a good defensive plan and understanding maybe

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>some of the basic principles of how to win and

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>not how to lose. I still think back when I

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<v Speaker 1>think it drafts and you told us that you know, hey,

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>we were trading up, we were we wanted or we

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>were going to get Mahomes and uh, and then you

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>ended up taking Lattimore, who's obviously a very good player.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But just that what is that Well, we didn't know

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>at the time, So I don't know if you were

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<v Speaker 1>like crushed where you're like, we got Mahomes and then

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't have Mahomes And what's that feeling like when

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't get him at that time? At the time,

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>at the time, realistically you have a small bubble there.

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>We're picking eleven, and so this is I think what

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>happens in a lot of draft rooms. You have, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have it at least as many players

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<v Speaker 1>in the bubble as there are picks, or you don't

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>have a pick, like you have to like And I

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>knew it was Lattimore and Mahomes in this cloud, and

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>there were three picks left before it was our pick.

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>So you're getting to a spot where when there's two

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>picks left and you have two and you're you're getting

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>one of your guys. And so Lattimore, we didn't think

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be available, and here here was

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<v Speaker 1>the here was the question in a nutshell, it would

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<v Speaker 1>help your team now at the corner while you have Drew,

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>or help your team long term with with the quarterback.

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And we were we were Once pick nine was made,

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>we knew we had one of the two, one of

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the two choices. And I don't know if pick ten

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>was someone else what we would have done it. At eleven,

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>we were discussing, you know, back and forth about the

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>QB in the corner. And then so at the time

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>when something like that happens, there are times where you're

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>just like you had one guy, someone stepped up took

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>your guy, and you just you're you're dejected or you know,

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that happen, But I think that the feeling

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>was when Andy, when the Chiefs went to ten, I

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>knew right away it was going to be for Patrick,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and then we knew we were getting Latimore. Yeah, so

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>there was there wasn't a room of like dejection or

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was kind of high fives. Like, man,

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.439
<v Speaker 1>we just we had no idea. We thought this corner

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>would slip and he ended up being the rookie of

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the year. But it's funny how those things can happen,

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, in after working him out in uh in college,

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>we like we crept out of town. We got on

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the owner's plane. We didn't take let anyone see us.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It was a private work. Uh it was. It was that.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It was that good. I'm talking about Patrick. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>well yeah, you just you know these draft day things.

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Cowboys. I thought they were going to

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>take Johnny Manziel and I'm like, oh my god, you know,

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>because Jerry's gonna get involved in this, remember yep, I remember,

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>oh man right right. Well, here's the thing. The funny

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>thing about all of that, The funny thing about all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, what would the year draft day came out? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Costner movie, PAULI googled it twenty fourteen. All right,

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>what was the Man's l draft? Twenty twelve? Has it

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>been that long? Twenty twelve? Oh? No, same year. No,

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>it's same year, coach, twenty fourteen, same year, That's what

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought. So And in the movie, in the movie,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the Browns go with the scout. The Costner

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>graded player as opposed to and in real life they

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>passed on bow Wallace. They put passed on bow Wallace,

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and they took Mac the linebacker, right, and you recall

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>they tested bow Wallace, and you know they had all

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>these little things. If you turn to page forty eight

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and you see this, send it back to us. And

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>they knew he didn't look at the playbook, and they

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>worried about his leadership, blah blah blah. And then in

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>real life was Manzell bow Wallace. Now, listen, I remember

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I I wasn't a part of the

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Manziel draft. What was Manzille's year? It was twelfth season.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was coming back from suspension, and look,

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I followed his season. It was magnificent. I spent time

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>with Johnny actually discussed and spent some time about bringing

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>him in here for you know, this was years ago

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>when the Super Bowl was in Houston and h and

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>so I think, look, are we root for guys like

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>we root for like all right, what's the best thing

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>he can do? And let's do those things with him

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and let's see him have success. We root for players,

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>we don't root against and son. But I just thought

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>there was some irony the movie The Cleveland Browns, and

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was, it was, it was right at

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the same time, Hey, it's great to talk to us always.

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate when you join us. And I hope there's

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>no sequel to this movie because that means you get

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>suspended again. So uh wait, you're not laughing. I hope,

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope there's no people as well to say thank you, coach,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time. All right, Dan, that's your friendship Sean Payton,

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<v Speaker 1>Kin makes up three nothing Hawks. After the Hawks have

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<v Speaker 1>match limitations to apply lots on pack. There with Sean Payton,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you get a to a conversation and you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take him out of the coaching role and

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<v Speaker 1>take him out of you're on the radio and hope

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<v Speaker 1>that he just talks to you. And that was the

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<v Speaker 1>goal that I had with him, because he does give

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<v Speaker 1>great thought when you ask a question. I always appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>But talking about the officials, they should be full time

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows and we should all know that we're

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<v Speaker 1>headed towards something really big. If one of these officials

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<v Speaker 1>and officiating crew blows, imagine you know where we're headed

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<v Speaker 1>with gambling. If you had the Rams Saints again, with

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to the Saints in New Orleans with that

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<v Speaker 1>play in the playoffs. The amount of money, like you

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<v Speaker 1>just you can't do that. You got to have full

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<v Speaker 1>time officials if you're going to have billions and billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars at stake with gambling, just the perception that

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<v Speaker 1>you are valuing the ambler the NFL. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>optics of that is, hey, we got full time officials. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's it costing you? Gambling is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make you billions? What's it going to cost you to

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<v Speaker 1>make your officials full time? I mean we're just starting

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<v Speaker 1>with gambling. But imagine you get suspended and it cost

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<v Speaker 1>you eight million dollars and then he goes back and

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<v Speaker 1>he coaches his son Pop Warner team. That's how the

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<v Speaker 1>movie came about. McLevin hasn't against the grain the topic

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<v Speaker 1>before we hit the music, Underdogs you should bet on

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<v Speaker 1>this week and moving forward the rest of the season. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I actually have a system here, oh a

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<v Speaker 1>reason that can inform your strategy. All the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>traded away their first round pick will try harder the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season. Right, the non tanking teams I

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<v Speaker 1>call them. The tanking teams are going to play for

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<v Speaker 1>a higher pick. The Dolphins gave away their pick. They're

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<v Speaker 1>about to get red hot. They play the Jets this week.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears gave away their pick for Justin Fields. I

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<v Speaker 1>am calling the upset. They play the Ravens in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the Ravens don't have running backs? Then, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't. They they got a running quarterback. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears defense is good. I think the Bears. They're

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<v Speaker 1>six point dogs at home. That's crazy. The Niners gave

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<v Speaker 1>away their pick. They for Trey Lance. They're at Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>They're about to go five and five. You think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna beat Jacksonville? I think so? Kay? Is that? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>no not? What are your feelings? Okay? And the last one,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cults probably trade away the first round for Carson Wentz. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you realize they won four or five and they're

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<v Speaker 1>only loss was overtime to the Titans, the best team

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Yeah, that's a really good team and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not playing for a draft position. Watch out for

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