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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September twenty first two, twenty one, season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Episode number twenty five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break Life in the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star, Nick, give me a twenty five. Oh, Junior Tadatasi.

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Speaker 1: That is my favorite player of my favorite name of

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Speaker 1: all time. He played a running back in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: How about say that was before my time? Junior titles.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that. I just love the name. I

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Speaker 1: just love that you're like confidently and I assume correctly

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Speaker 1: pronouncing it. Yeah, I think so. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that guy joined the team today, you'd be like, I'm

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Speaker 1: calling you Junior two. You make the team. I don't care. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In eighty nine, he mean, I mean he was on

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Speaker 1: the team, but I mean that doesn't mean anything. Everybody

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Speaker 1: was on the title Tassi. Okay, it kind of rolls

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Speaker 1: off the tongue kind I kind of like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was a good player, but but

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Speaker 1: you know, if you only played on the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: nine Cowboys and like no other team, yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: might have played for it. I don't know. Maybe played

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles. I don't know, but I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, just because you played on the eighty nine Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're great NFL player. Was our guy Charlie

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Speaker 1: Williams twenty five? He was? He also was forty two.

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Speaker 1: I like Charlie. I wish he would have said twenty

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Speaker 1: five for Charlie because that's my dude. Like, I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen him in a long time. He used to come

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Speaker 1: around a lot, cool Valley ranch. I like Charlie. I'll

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Speaker 1: see him, but you don't get many opportunities to say

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Speaker 1: junior junior title good Points played the Eagles for three years,

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Speaker 1: and eighty nine with the Cowboys was his final year

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Speaker 1: in four year prot fitting guy. He played for both

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Speaker 1: of the teams that are playing this week. There we go,

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Speaker 1: look at Nick, that's my dude. There we go, all right,

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Speaker 1: into that one. Today we're gonna talk about today. We

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Speaker 1: actually are going to uh the Yesterday, the Cowboys gave

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Speaker 1: us an opportunity. The media gave us, I mean gave

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Speaker 1: the media the opportunity to talk to the coordinator's offense, defense,

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Speaker 1: and special teams. There were some things that came out

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Speaker 1: of those press conferences that I thought we'd dissect today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start first with the offense. Kelvin Moore. I

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Speaker 1: was looking at some of the numbers through two games,

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Speaker 1: and obviously, let's put this in context. It's two games.

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Speaker 1: This is not what you are for the season. It's

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Speaker 1: just two games. But it does give us a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an indication on some things right now. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offense is fourth in total offense, there's seventh, and

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Speaker 1: that was interesting to me their fourteenth in points scored.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think there's so much lower in the

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Speaker 1: amount of points that they're scoring relative to the number

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Speaker 1: of yards that they're getting both overall and pass and

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Speaker 1: UH and Russian. Well, they sucked out loud in the

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Speaker 1: then I'm pointing it. It was my red drink. Oh

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Speaker 1: thank you. I wasn't. I was. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on over there, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna answer the question. Sorry, Um another one today? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably well, and the Keys, they've had a quarterback for

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Speaker 1: They've got a worse record in one score games over

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Speaker 1: something to think about. I don't know. I don't that's

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Speaker 1: were all like, why why are they doing this? And

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of options, but they were

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Speaker 1: also building it for down the road, like let's just

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Speaker 1: keep working with him, working with him, and he looked

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Speaker 1: like a guy that was a little bit more polished

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Speaker 1: and not overwhelmed by the situation in the game. And

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Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, they stuck with him last

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Speaker 1: year and I think for at least one game it

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Speaker 1: paid off. There's something to be said for them or

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Speaker 1: coaches seeing something in a player and saying Okay, this

436
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Speaker 1: is a young guy. We see traits that we can develop,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to develop them and then seeing that workout.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work all the time, but in this instance,

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Speaker 1: you're right, it may end up being something that works

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Speaker 1: out for them. I'm not ready to say it's there yet.

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Speaker 1: I am willing to say that last week he certainly

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Speaker 1: showed us more than he showed us last week last year,

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Speaker 1: which means he's getting better. I think Brandon Knight was

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Speaker 1: a better tackle last year, but early I think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think by the end of I know, but

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Speaker 1: I mean I think just better. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: a better tackle. He came in and did a better job.

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Speaker 1: But I think he had more of a ceiling at tackle.

449
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele had a bigger ceiling. And they're like, we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna go with it, go with it, even though

451
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Speaker 1: you know, you got to go two steps back to

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Speaker 1: kind of go forward, and we're getting ahead of ourselves

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll see. I mean, he had, he

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Speaker 1: had a nice game. He's gonna have to keep doing

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Speaker 1: it though. Yeah, I will say this. After we talked

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Speaker 1: about yesterday on the air, I went back and watched

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Speaker 1: some of that game on replay. Still can't get the

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Speaker 1: all twenty two yard, but I was able to watch

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Speaker 1: at least a little bit more of him, and one

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Speaker 1: thing I did notice. They did give him a lot

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Speaker 1: of opportunities where he was out there by himself. But

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Speaker 1: it seemed like a lot of those times where when

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Speaker 1: they were getting rid of the ball quick. There were

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Speaker 1: a few times when he got beat, but they were

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Speaker 1: quick gott they were quick throws, so it didn't end

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Speaker 1: up hurting them. And they tended to give him help

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Speaker 1: when they wanted more, you know, plays that developed a

468
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Speaker 1: little would needed more time to develop. They tend to

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Speaker 1: give him a little more help. But overall, as I

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Speaker 1: watched him, there were some plays when I was really

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Speaker 1: impressed with him. In the run game, he was there

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Speaker 1: was some plays he was like throwing guys around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was playing some go football in the run game.

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Speaker 1: So again, he's better than he was last year. And

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Speaker 1: that's all you can ask from what players are you

476
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Speaker 1: getting better every week? And I think he is. I

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Speaker 1: think there's I just think of it as two lines

478
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Speaker 1: of conversation, and it's weird to think about now because

479
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Speaker 1: it's ancient history. But in that five week stretch before

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Speaker 1: Dak got hurt, I was like, y'all are being stubborn

481
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Speaker 1: like Zach Martin might give you the best chance to

482
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Speaker 1: give Dak the best chance to win without these tackles.

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Speaker 1: And then once Dak got hurt, I was like, yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: I played the play the young guy who needs to develop,

485
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Speaker 1: who gives a damn like sorry Andy. So once it

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Speaker 1: got to that point, I was like, yeah, play him

487
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Speaker 1: and get him all the experience he needs. But there

488
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Speaker 1: was a window where I was like, I'm not convinced

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Speaker 1: y'all are doing everything you can to help the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But right now it has paid off because they got

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Speaker 1: all of that time to play him. If you know,

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Speaker 1: when Lyle does come back, they're probably going to be

493
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Speaker 1: in the best situation that they've been in knock on

494
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Speaker 1: wood but for an off line in a while. When

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Speaker 1: you think about Steele as the backup for both sides,

496
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Speaker 1: and he's played a lot of games, Connor McGovern as

497
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Speaker 1: a swing guard who also can play some center for you,

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Speaker 1: then he Brandon Knight, a guard who can play some tackle,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even thrown in in secky. I want

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Speaker 1: to see kind of what happens with that and Farniak

501
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Speaker 1: and all that, but you've got young experience that has

502
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Speaker 1: played and started in games. That's that's with flexibility, position

503
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: flex That was all through the summer. It was like,

504
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Speaker 1: if Terrence Steele can make a year two leap, then

505
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Speaker 1: it's gonna mean a lot for this offensive line. And

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Speaker 1: it's only one game, but it's a hell of an

507
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Speaker 1: encouraging game. It was absolutely all right. Let's move on

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Speaker 1: to the defense. Dan Quinn talked to the media yesterday.

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Speaker 1: My question I came out of it with is and

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Speaker 1: Nick I mentioned this to you. We were looking at

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Speaker 1: his stat line, Michael Parsons. He had one sack, he

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Speaker 1: had two tackles, he had four quarterback hits. Dave, you

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Speaker 1: said you saw it. I didn't see it on my

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Speaker 1: stat sheet, but you said you saw somebody credit him

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Speaker 1: with eight back pressure. Was pum That all being said,

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Speaker 1: like that stat line, if you just saw that stat

517
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Speaker 1: line for any defensive end in the NFL, you would

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Speaker 1: say he had a really good week. That being said,

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Speaker 1: my question for you is absent uh tank Lawrence? Is

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Speaker 1: he the best pass rusher that this team has right now?

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Speaker 1: I remember he did that on two days of practice.

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Speaker 1: Two days of notice. Yeah, not ready to say that

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Speaker 1: until I've had more of a chance to see Randy Gregory. Okay, yeah,

524
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Speaker 1: but I think I think he's going to be either

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Speaker 1: second or third best pass russure and then he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to line up a defensive end to do that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I was careful, not defensive end,

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Speaker 1: of course. I think I think he's a really good

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Speaker 1: pass pressure. We saw that. That's one thing that just

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Speaker 1: jumped off the tape in college is that these guys

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Speaker 1: couldn't block him, and competition is going to get better.

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Speaker 1: But they he just has a way of kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, knifing through and around people. So and he

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Speaker 1: did that and he got better as the game went

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Speaker 1: on and figured that out, and the competition will get

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Speaker 1: better too. But um, we talk eight pressures, that's what

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Speaker 1: they said, we I mean sounds about right, especially a

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Speaker 1: lot is d Law. I mean at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season forty five pressures. Is was like really good

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Speaker 1: forty five season. So I don't know good at man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they do on on bolt Talk

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Speaker 1: Weekly or whatever they call it. Boat. I'm taking week

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Speaker 1: and taking talk joke talking bolts talking Bolts. I bet

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Speaker 1: they'll bring in with the Bolts. I bet they'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about Storm Norton. Sounds good. I bet they'll be

546
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Speaker 1: talking about Storm Norton the way we talk about Chaz

547
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Speaker 1: Green for a while. If I had to get wow,

548
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, he didn't give up seven he

549
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Speaker 1: annihilated him. I know. I mean he didn't give up.

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Speaker 1: He didn't give up six sacks. But I mean Micah

551
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: Parsons wrecked the Chargers game plan in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean Storm, he just you're still thinking of talk

553
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Speaker 1: show names because his name with a storm Oh got it? Sorry? Sorry,

554
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Speaker 1: um storm on the on the Charges, like that's actually

555
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Speaker 1: a great name to fit for the team. He might

556
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: not be there that much longer. One, I mean one

557
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: stand Quinn was his deal. I don't know, you don't

558
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Speaker 1: know anythbody. I think he's like a veteran guy that's

559
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Speaker 1: like just kind of filling in for a hurt guy.

560
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is. But Mica, once they

561
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Speaker 1: gave up on trying to rush him against Rashawn S later,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just all it wasn't as bad as

563
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Speaker 1: chat screen. That's that's not anyone who different level, but

564
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Speaker 1: he I mean he was in the backfield every other snap,

565
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Speaker 1: it really was, and they definitely got away withholding them

566
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Speaker 1: two or three times. They're gonna be good. They're gonna

567
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Speaker 1: be good if Blagger comes back and slows that down

568
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: because Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and and of course

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Speaker 1: Jared Cook like Cowboy fans were tired of seeing that

570
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Speaker 1: guy like Jared Cook likes so everywhere. Yeah, okay, he

571
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Speaker 1: goes to different teams and still teams that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are playing. Yeah, big games, Yeah all right, um uh Parsons, Yeah, Parsons.

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Speaker 1: I think we are talking about No, I mean I

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Speaker 1: thought I was going back to Okay, yeah, we're back

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Speaker 1: to Parsons, but but actually I wanted to move on

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Speaker 1: from Parsons. Dallas right now is twenty eight in sacks,

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth and pressures the How can they get more

578
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Speaker 1: pressure than what they've gotten to this point, because obviously

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Speaker 1: we talked about that stat line for Parsons, but really

580
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Speaker 1: you look across the other guys that are rushing the pass,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're getting enough pressure. Now we

582
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Speaker 1: know a week one you're playing a quarterback to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the ball extremely quickly. Do you think it's

584
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Speaker 1: just who they face to this point or do you

585
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Speaker 1: think it's like this is a problem they got to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to get more pressure. I mean it's

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00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Yeah, they I mean these

588
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: have both been matchups where you're gonna be hard pressed.

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Speaker 1: Bread he gets rid of the ball super quickly. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, justin Herbert, they might have sacked him six

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Speaker 1: times if he wasn't such a freak. And I don't,

592
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Speaker 1: like he's not in he's not sneaky athletic like the

593
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: classic euphemism for a white quarterback, like he is athletic.

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Speaker 1: He is huge and fast and can get away from pressure.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I mean. That's what made MICA's sacks

596
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Speaker 1: so impressive was that he still got to him. So,

597
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hard guy to get on the ground.

598
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Speaker 1: Probably not gonna get a lot easier week three, by

599
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: the way, hurts Um And then and then you, I

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00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: mean you don't you didn't have either of your best guys.

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Speaker 1: That's maybe it's a homer answer, but I'm just like, well,

602
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: how much do you want him to do without either

603
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: of the big guys that they expected to rush the

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Speaker 1: passer this season. You know, I mean, right now, you say,

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Speaker 1: who are the two best quarterbacks they faced? I mean,

606
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: obviously they faced two Brady and Herbert. In six weeks,

607
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: that's still going to be the answer. You know, the

608
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: best receivers they faced are Mike Evans and Keenan Allen

609
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Speaker 1: and Godwin and Antonio Brown, and in six weeks, the

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Speaker 1: best receivers they're gonna face are probably gonna be those guys,

611
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Speaker 1: and then maybe a Kenny Galladay if he can calm down.

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Speaker 1: When I love how Kenny Galladays. I wasn't yelling at

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00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, yelling at Garrett. I was like, oh, okay, um,

614
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Speaker 1: but I mean I don't think I've ever heard of

615
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Speaker 1: a player come out and say no. I wasn't yelling no,

616
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Speaker 1: not you him at the coach. I was yelling, and

617
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Okay. I

618
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: would yell at Jason Garrett. Yeah. Um. But I mean

619
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Speaker 1: they face some really good play. I mean, I'm not

620
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: saying the Eagles don't have town because because Hurts is

621
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: a different kind of beast. I mean, he's he's running back.

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Speaker 1: He can be a check and throw, and he can

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Speaker 1: throw I'm not saying he's not in a quarterback because

624
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Speaker 1: the eighty yard passed the Daniel Um Deshaun Jackson last year,

625
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: I was like, everybody was like, oh, oh, he's last game,

626
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: didn't he he can sing? I think somebody told I

627
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: think I read somewhere he had like a sixty or

628
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: seventy yard passed this last It was like they say,

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00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: that was probably the only great play they had. But

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00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: he's a lot like da To me, he really is

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00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: this the the you know, the trajectory of his career.

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00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I think it's very similar. You know you're gonna have

633
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have doubters, but you're like, you know what,

634
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: he just kind of goes in and does well in games.

635
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Can figure it out, and he'll figure it out. And

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Speaker 1: you know, if he figures it out before the coordinators

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Speaker 1: figure him out, then you know, I think, I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player. It could be

639
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: a problem for this team because I still think they

640
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Speaker 1: face the best receivers and quarterbacks they're gonna face in

641
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Speaker 1: the first month or two. To get back to your

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Speaker 1: I guess the question, which is something that I think

643
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Speaker 1: about and I wonder if Dan Quinnell change it. They

644
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Speaker 1: have not blitzed much yet, and as impressive as Micah

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Speaker 1: looked as an edge rusher, I'm look, I look at

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Speaker 1: that closing speed and i'mlike, this guy send him through

647
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Speaker 1: the a gap and even a guy like Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: he might have the closing speed to get to him.

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Speaker 1: And that's that is an element that I want to

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Speaker 1: see and it's why I you know, people are talking

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Speaker 1: about moving him to end and I'm not about it

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Speaker 1: at all, especially in a matchup against better tackles than

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Speaker 1: what the Chargers had out there on the right side.

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Speaker 1: Not saying he shouldn't do it at all, he absolutely should.

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Speaker 1: But that's the fun of a guy like this. He

656
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Speaker 1: should be doing a little bit of everything. And he

657
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Speaker 1: keeps answering the bell, So just keep putting more on

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Speaker 1: his plate. If he if he's if he shows that

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Speaker 1: he can handle it, why stop. You know, I want

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Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, with a guy like Brady,

661
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Speaker 1: you know you're not going to really confuse him, you know,

662
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Speaker 1: but he's seen it all, but he sees it in

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Speaker 1: his sleep. But you know, these guys coming up here

664
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00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: They confused him. If you go back and watch some

666
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Speaker 1: of those, they did a nice job of kind of

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00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: showing Blitz backing off he was. He was kind of

668
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: making the wrong read wrong decision there. So I want

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Speaker 1: I want to put him at the end. I want

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Speaker 1: to I want I want Hurts looking for him, Daniel

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Jones and Mac Jones and Darnald you know who's coming

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Speaker 1: up here. I mean, he's sort of a veteran. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. Just show Parsons at all spots

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Speaker 1: and whatever point they can have one of these dominant

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Speaker 1: or both of these dominant. We well, the most dominant

677
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: pass rushers that the Cowboys have a defensive and once

678
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: they get those guys back, and now teams start looking

679
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: for Parsons and he lines up on one side and

680
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: they slide protection to that side, and now you've got

681
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: that frees up a guy on the other side to

682
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: now have a one on one. That's where you really

683
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Speaker 1: start hitting. That's what it meansporunity to call him a

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Speaker 1: queen on the chess. Yeah, exactly. People that just want

685
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Speaker 1: to rook. Sorry, Wow, that's good No, that was which

686
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: actually I was about to I was about to call

687
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Speaker 1: him a rook, not in the punnyway. I was like,

688
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: if you just want to move him to end, you're

689
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Speaker 1: just creating a rook. You're just a guy that goes

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Speaker 1: straight to the quarterback, which he's good at. But you

691
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: want him to be as three dimensional as possible. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I can't get over that. No, but that's but that's

693
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Speaker 1: the point, Like, he's too good and too versatile for

694
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Speaker 1: you to just put him at defensive end, right, you

695
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Speaker 1: really want to put him everywhere, and you want to

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Speaker 1: make defenses have to account for the fact that he

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Speaker 1: can line up anywhere and they're gonna have to count

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00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: for him and wherever he lines up. That's just one

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Speaker 1: they got to do. Every time he kind of line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmag just figure out where he is and try

702
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: to adjust that. All right, we're gonna take our final break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk some about the special teams.

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Speaker 1: John Fossil had something to say yesterday about that decision

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Speaker 1: to try to go and get that punt. We'll tell

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Speaker 1: the Star. We are talking about the coordinators they met

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Speaker 1: John Fossil said something in his press conference yesterday that

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Speaker 1: made me raise my eyebrows, and I'm sure probably did

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Speaker 1: I'll read it, and this was the quote he says,

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Speaker 1: I think Cowboys fans aren't the play it safe type.

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Speaker 1: I was going to give them what they wanted. Hope

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Speaker 1: they are happy. They're not. They're not. But let's Leo

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Speaker 1: on just to be I kind of want to take

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Speaker 1: it back first and and explain, like what happened on

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Speaker 1: that play? What did he say happen? What was the decision,

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Speaker 1: and how did they get to that point of even

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Speaker 1: having guys that end up in rolling into the punter.

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Speaker 1: I think it goes way back. But before that, this

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Speaker 1: guy wants to be involved with everything. Okay, he does not,

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Speaker 1: This isn't the third phase of it. He wants to

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Speaker 1: be involved. Let's look at him at training camp. He's

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Speaker 1: got the referee shirt on, he's got the whistle, he's

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a mike. He's yelling. He wants

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Speaker 1: to be aggressive. Let's fake punts and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: He can't just sit there and just and just let

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Speaker 1: the game go to him. He's trying to dictate the game.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mike McCarthy they give him a little

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00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: too much, too much leeway on it. There's no reason

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00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: to rush the punt right there. Yes, you could block it,

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Speaker 1: but the way Dak and them are moving the ball,

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Speaker 1: they can move the ball. Don't take the ball out

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00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: of Dack's hands. He's the best player on the team

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Speaker 1: right now. So that that was just like Dave said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: risk reward, it's not there. Did they did? They kind

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Speaker 1: of block him into it maybe, but that's not a

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Speaker 1: reviewable play. You know, Dave said all this yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: I totally agree that that ref is looking. Does the punter?

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Speaker 1: Does the punter get hurt? Does he get hit a

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Speaker 1: b does he go to the ground. Yes, Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: fifteen yards, no doubt about it. It's all they care about.

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Speaker 1: It's the same And if you if a guy comes

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Speaker 1: anywhere near a quarterback below the knee there, the same

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Speaker 1: flag is gonna fly regardless neck and guess what, you

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00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: can get thrown into the quarterback by his offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: and the refs don't care, and they're going to they'll

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Speaker 1: block a punt this year. They'll block a punt you think, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably haven't done it in years. They won't. I mean

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Speaker 1: if they're if they're rushing like this, I mean they

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00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: probably will. They'll block one. But is it? Is it

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Speaker 1: gonna be worth it at the end of the day, Like,

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Speaker 1: is it? And I'm I'm glad you mentioned that, and

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Speaker 1: I brought it up yesterday. Week one, Pittsburgh did block

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Speaker 1: upon it was a game changing block. They scored a

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00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: touchdown off the scoop and score helped them upset the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's offense sucked in that game. They could not move

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Speaker 1: the ball. Big Ben looks washed as hell. You know

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Speaker 1: who looks great? Kak and the Cowboys offense. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have the ball at the twenty or twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. Do you remember where CD Fair caught

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Speaker 1: it before it got moved back. I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was like around the ten or fifteen, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know which. It might be wrong. It's a long field.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. They had already scored fourteen points. By

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Speaker 1: the way it's it's I think at that point they

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Speaker 1: have had two timeouts to work with. So probably you're

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Speaker 1: you're not giving them the ball back one of the two.

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Speaker 1: But either way, nothing bad comes from net right, And

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Speaker 1: I think I think that was just John Fossil's way

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Speaker 1: of kind of being funny about like, well, I thought,

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Speaker 1: y'all want us to be aggressive, and I do. I

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Speaker 1: want you to be aggressive, but not reckless. And I

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Speaker 1: think that was reckless. Well, let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: because I think it even goes back to last year.

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Speaker 1: There was some decisions that were made and a lot

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Speaker 1: ten not even that's reckless, right going for you know

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Speaker 1: what we haven't mentioned one fricking time was when they

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Speaker 1: went for it on fourth down in the first half.

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Speaker 1: What I'm looking at that right now, ye turnover on

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Speaker 1: fourth and five on the other side of the field,

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Speaker 1: that's aggressive. Doing it on your own twenty is reckless. Well.

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Speaker 1: Also also if you're gonna go for it, See, I

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Speaker 1: I don't think special teams has to be aggressive at all.

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Speaker 1: You do not have to be aggressive. You don't really

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Speaker 1: have to run a lot of fake punts unless you

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Speaker 1: just absolutely see something that will work, go for it.

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Speaker 1: But the Chris Jones passed to C. J. Goodwin on

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Speaker 1: dropped it. While your punter is throwing to a cornerback

848
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: who can't get on the field as a cornerback, why

849
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: don't we just let Dak throw it to Amari? Different

850
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: coverage probably, but I'll take my chances now that fourth

851
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: and five, I hated that because he ran a fourteen

852
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: yard when the guy was off of them. Get to

853
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: the sticks seven yards stop. That's pitching catch all day.

854
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: They ran a fourteen yard route and it went low.

855
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: That didn't make sense to me. But either way, I

856
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: just don't think this is a team that needs to

857
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: be aggressive because if you want to really go for

858
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: it on fourth down, get your pro Bowl quarterback throwing

859
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: to your Pro Bowl receiver with pro Bowl blockers in front,

860
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: not you know who's the punter anger throwing it to

861
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: Goodwin with you know, Drill Cox blocking up front. I'm

862
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: not all the way I agree with you for the

863
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: most part, but I do. I kind of like knowing

864
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: that that's in their bag of tricks, and we know

865
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: for a fact that teams are going to change the

866
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: way they play the Cowboys because of Fossil's reputation. I

867
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: think that gives you something and they'll steal a possession

868
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: or maybe even score points because of that. At some point, punters,

869
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: punters want to play for him because because their net

870
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: average is going to be outstanding, because everyone's worried about

871
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: a fake, so they just put it up. I mean,

872
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: the fake against Pittsburgh last year was incredible, and that's

873
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: that was fun and I like knowing that that has

874
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: the potential to happen on any given Sunday. But I

875
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: just this, I don't think this was the time for

876
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: that call. Yeah, I agree with you, Dave, when it

877
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: comes to the whole nature of it being you know,

878
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: reckless versus something that that's just aggressive. I like aggressive

879
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: mindset because I do think there will create you'll create

880
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: opportunities for yourself and if nothing else that, you know,

881
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you give a team that much more that they have

882
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: to prepare for on a given week, and you only

883
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: got so much time in the week. So if you

884
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: give them a little extra that they got to deal with,

885
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: what else are they neglecting to spend time on in

886
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: order to make sure they spend time on that? So

887
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: I do like that. Yeah, I just think there are

888
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: times when the timing just not right. It opens up

889
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: another discussion but but to me, fifteen, your appenalties that

890
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: are automatic first downs need to be reviewed in my opinion,

891
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: and a play like that needs to be reviewed because

892
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: that is a turnover really and you know, I'm not

893
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: saying it was probably wouldn't have changed, but it's such

894
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: a bang bang play that if a guy gets blocked

895
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: into you know, and you could kind of block him

896
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: into the guy, and if that happens, they need they

897
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: need to review that. I don't know if they want to,

898
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I have no faith that they

899
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: would have overturned it anything. I don't think so either

900
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: in that case, but I do think that there's some

901
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: times where it kind of gets a little muddy in

902
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: there like that and then yeah, so I mean, and

903
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: that's that's a turnover. That's what makes it so risky

904
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: is again the Cowboys didn't technically do anything wrong, but

905
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: the refs don't care. They saw the punter fly up

906
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: in the air and the ground and protecting him. You know,

907
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot worse, you know, where the foot

908
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: doesn't come down all the way, it just kind of

909
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: hits a player like in a back not not he

910
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't even go to the ground. It's just his foot

911
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: can't come down and they call that as a fifteen

912
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: yard penalty. Another thing that was interesting to me on

913
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: this topic. Fossil said that it was his call. He

914
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: makes a decision when he wants to try those kinds

915
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: of things. My question for you guys is should it

916
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: be is this when you're the head coach and you

917
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: know you've got a special teams coordinator that tends to

918
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: be aggressive and can do it a lot of different

919
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: points in a game, is it a better situation for

920
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: the coach to be the one either making those calls

921
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: or making sure he has to check with him before

922
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: making those calls if he's having If the head coach

923
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: responsible for managing the entire game and you're trying to

924
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: play complimentary football, I love the idea that the coordinator

925
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: makes the call, the head coach should have a final

926
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: say over whether it should happen. I mean, it's Mike

927
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy's job to manage the ebbs and flows at the

928
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: end at the end of the day, So I don't

929
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: expect Mike McCarthy to say, I like this, look, this

930
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: is where this is a good spot for this, Like

931
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: that's John fossil's job to know the ins and outs

932
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: of what their coverage looks like and stuff like that.

933
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: But he should click in and be like, hey, Mike,

934
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: this is what we're thinking. What do you think? And

935
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: Mike's like yes or no if he's making that call,

936
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: and the head coach is just as surprised as the

937
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: rest of us about what happened. No, I don't like

938
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: that at all. Did you get that impression, because that's

939
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: the impression I got from the way he was talking,

940
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: was like, I just make the call. It's almost like

941
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: you call in an offensive player or a defensive play

942
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: from the offense or defensive coordinator, and you don't necessarily

943
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: check with the which on every call. And it makes

944
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: seem like he just makes this call by himself without

945
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: really and I don't Again, I don't know if that's

946
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: the truth. That's just the way the impression I got.

947
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: The head coach gets on there for everything and says, hey,

948
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: let's yeah. I mean, it all happens in his ear,

949
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: so I would remember. But the head coach can get

950
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: in there and say, hey, let's let's back off here,

951
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: let's let's get a safe return, you know, let's let's

952
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: be smart here, but you know you're also thinking too, like,

953
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: this is the difference between maybe going to get a

954
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: touchdown in a field goal. You know, because you get

955
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: the ball to your fifteen yard line, you're probably gonna

956
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: get and arranged for a field goal. You get a

957
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: punt block there, and even if you just recover it

958
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: right there. Now you're thinking, let's go get a touchdown.

959
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: The problem is you got a penalty. Is should have

960
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: been a six points swing, three points off the board

961
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: for you, three points for them, but they missed the

962
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah, so because of the Fossil's great defensive block.

963
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, here I got another issue with Fossil too,

964
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: and somebody pointed there another thing, another thing. Okay, this

965
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: aggressive guy wants to be aggressive. Do you know how

966
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: many guys rushed the kicker for the Buccaneers game winning

967
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: field goal? Uh? Six? Six out of the eleven. The

968
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: other five were kind of they pulled back at the

969
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: last second. Jalen Smith's back there. Obviously obviously the Bucks

970
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: are gonna run a fake there with two seconds to go,

971
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: so they could, you know, instead of winning by three,

972
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: they want to win. What I mean, why aren't we

973
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: sending eleven. Why aren't we sending eleven? And if we

974
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: rough the kick, we rough the kicker. That's one I

975
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: don't understand. I thought we were super aggressive here trying

976
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: to block of kick and win the game. That is,

977
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: if if there's a scenario where murdering the kicker is okay,

978
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: that's that go for. What's the worst is gonna happen? Right, Well,

979
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: he misses and then you get another fifteen and all that.

980
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: But if you, like you said, then let's have a shot.

981
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: You don't have a kicker at this point. Your kicker's gone.

982
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: We took care of that. Everyone has that backup heath

983
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: like a backup. It's right. I wonder who the backup

984
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: kicker for the Cowboys, well, because it would be probably anger.

985
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: But then you have a holder. Cedric Wilson. He does

986
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: everything else, parsons thing interesting. Probably throw him out there,

987
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: let him do everything interesting. I don't see why not

988
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't done. I'm about don't think they found anything yet.

989
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: He can't do, so keep giving him. I don't know,

990
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know. Possible. All right,

991
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: let's got a phone call. We got a call from

992
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: Matt in Jersey, Matt, what up, what's going on? Break? Hey? Yeah,

993
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: good good had a great victory Monday. Um, you really

994
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: got on a vossil topic. I was gonna say because

995
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I am a fan and it's not what I want

996
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: to see. I mean, kind of cute like aggressive call

997
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: gives them, I like your point topics, gives other teams

998
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: something to look at down in the year. But but

999
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: are these coaches a little bit surprised in the way

1000
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: this defense is playing from last year? They're not. I

1001
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: don't know what they saw on camp, but what I'm

1002
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: seeing he's in the next in the in these first

1003
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: two weeks is a really really kind of a solid defense.

1004
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: You know, three and out right there, we got a

1005
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: couple three and outs, we got an interception earlier, we

1006
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: got another late interception. I'm just saying, why would you

1007
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: even attempt when the offense was rolling? I just can

1008
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: you tell me to score at that particular time of

1009
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the of the game? Was it fourteen three? It was

1010
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: fourteen eleven exactly, We're getting the ball back to take

1011
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: more time off the clock. Out of a To be honest,

1012
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: Herbert is going to take over the control of the league. Um,

1013
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: so honestly, we're taking the ball out of a really

1014
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: good pastor's hand and putting it into our good pastor's hand,

1015
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: and to call that play right there is dan Quinn

1016
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: a little upset that his defense got a three and

1017
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: out and then it has to come right back on

1018
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: the field. All right, thanks for probably good question. I'm

1019
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: sure you're not going to tell us that anyway. Yeah,

1020
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it's not like, oh, all right,

1021
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: let's go do it again. Guys, let's go get back

1022
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: out there. We just did our job. We'll have to

1023
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: do it again. Well, let me say they did. Let

1024
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: me ask you this question, though, and I don't I

1025
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: don't think nothing that he said suggests that he had

1026
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: this much thought was put into it. But let's assume

1027
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: for a second. Could it have been a situation where

1028
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: they trust the defense enough to say, if something this

1029
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: is worth the risk, because if something does go bad,

1030
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: we've seen this defense can stiffen up, especially they can

1031
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: stiffen up when it comes to not allowing a touchdown.

1032
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: So the risk is worth the possible reward. No, No,

1033
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: it's a six point swing because they roughed him into

1034
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: field goal range. I mean, you gotta expected and McCarthy.

1035
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: If he thinks his kicker could make a sixty yard

1036
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: kick in the middle of the Tampa game, then he

1037
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: probably thinks that the Chargers guy's gonna make a forty

1038
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: five yard or you know, you have to assume that

1039
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: stiffening up is I mean, yeah, once the penalty is assessed,

1040
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: they're on the Dallas thirty nine. Theyde five yards to

1041
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: be in make and I guess, but that would be

1042
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: the calculation is wrong calculation. No, hold on, let me

1043
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: tell you the calculation. The calculation is worst case scenario,

1044
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: our defense will hold him from getting a touchdown. So

1045
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: the risk here is that we give them three points.

1046
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: The reward would be we could possibly a touchdowns. You

1047
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: said earlier, you get a block. Now you're in position

1048
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: where you can actually get a touchdown. You don't have

1049
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: to just get a field goal. So that's where I

1050
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: think the calculation can come. And by the way, I'm

1051
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: not saying this is what happened, because nothing that John

1052
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Fossil said suggests that he did that kind of calculation

1053
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: in his head. I'm just saying, would that have been

1054
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: a calculation and made all of us feel better about

1055
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: the decision. If that's the way they thought about it.

1056
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: I just wanna maybe I'm giving Dakota too much credit.

1057
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Screw a field goal minute fifty three with two time outs.

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Speaker 1: You can get an enzone getting the end zone easy.

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Speaker 1: So no, And then I thought the caller he didn't

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Speaker 1: directly say this, but he brought up a point that

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Speaker 1: I think is worth remembering as well. The Chargers were

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Speaker 1: getting the ball after halftime, so you're risking and low

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Speaker 1: and behold, that's exactly what happened. You're like, if we

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Speaker 1: mess this up, we're not touching the ball again. And

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Speaker 1: then they get the ball at the start of the

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Speaker 1: third quarter. I just I don't think there's a way

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Speaker 1: to swing it as the right thing to do. And

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Speaker 1: Chargers never led in the game, right, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they know they did not. I think they got They

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Speaker 1: got ahead on the scoreboard for a second when they scored,

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Speaker 1: and then they took it off the board. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: they took the lead a couple of times for twenty seconds,

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Speaker 1: and then the ref said no. But no, they never

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Speaker 1: never officially had the lead. All right, let's get a

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Speaker 1: call from Devin in Pennsylvania. Devin, what up? We lost? Devin?

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Speaker 1: All right? Um, you know, actually, I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a rap for us. We were gonna get a

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Speaker 1: couple of calls, but I think that's a rap. We

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Speaker 1: will be back on tomorrow. We're gonna do some We're

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Speaker 1: gonna score car start getting you guys ready for Cowboys

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Speaker 1: versus Eagles. We'll talk tomorrow about Philadelphia offense versus Dallas defense.

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Speaker 1: To then for Nick Eatman, Dave Helmet. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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